00:00:00.000what up guys welcome to the just pearly things youtube channel and welcome to the sit down
00:00:05.440today i have a special guest on the channel welcome to the show malik obama hey thank you
00:00:12.240guys everybody thank you for having me yeah thank you for coming appreciate it so um where where did
00:00:18.360you say you're from again i'm from kenya originally from kenya east africa yeah but i've been living
00:00:25.080here since 1985. okay um so what is like the biggest cultural difference you notice between
00:00:31.760in kenya and here uh well here people are extremely aggressive and uh about their independence and
00:00:40.260over there people more like uh disciplined like in terms of like uh they follow culture
00:00:47.580and most of it is like from the custom customs culture and traditions from ages ago and uh
00:00:56.680so it's it's different and that i guess the way they look at life you know and the family
00:01:05.700structure yeah yeah so it's different how because we always hear how bad the west is in terms of
00:01:13.140the culture would you say it's a lot worse here not really well it all depends because here a lot of
00:01:19.920people look at it as like there's a lot of it's the uh the big big buildings uh um there's uh abundance
00:01:29.100yeah of things you know and over there because of the colonial how the history yeah whereby you know
00:01:36.720the traditional uh custom culture and customs and and way of living has been uh altered in that uh
00:01:48.400the concept is that what you have is not as good as what was brought and at the colonial times people
00:01:56.140were actually forced to sort of like change the way they were living towards this other way of living
00:02:03.460so right now you'll find that you know their view of western culture is that that's where that's what
00:02:12.500they want because they see that is like uh development advancement that's where you know
00:02:19.180the world is going as opposed to going backwards and wearing skins and living in like mud-tached houses
00:02:27.520yeah but people are thinking like they want electricity they want to have more money yeah yeah they want to
00:02:33.160drive cars you know they want to wear like you know good clothes you know um and uh things like that
00:02:42.460they want to have like food a lot of food different types of food you know and so forth and then with
00:02:48.360the education system over there you know it's not like you're being educated about the way you used to
00:02:54.020be but you're being educated about the way the world is right now you know so it's uh it's difficult
00:03:02.420because here you have your culture and at the same time you have to live the way that it is right now
00:03:11.780yeah where you know if you're going to have tea you need sugar yeah that kind of thing and if you're going to be
00:03:19.880cooking you need you know cooking oil and if then you have to go to school so you have to have a job
00:03:27.720you can't just have subsistence farming and then you have your small maybe it is your your your cow
00:03:34.220that you milk and then you have your milk or it is your farm that you farm and then you eat off of
00:03:41.980that where that's in kenya yeah yeah okay yeah we don't have a cat i don't have a cow here no here you don't
00:03:47.820you don't so things are not as regulated here and today it's a bit more loose loose because you can keep
00:03:53.040chickens at home yeah and i hear you know in in the western world i think they have their laws against
00:04:00.780yeah everything's more regulated yeah so it's a different but a lot of people don't understand until they come here
00:04:07.980and then it's very different because they are thinking that they can adapt you know and it's
00:04:15.400difficult to adapt because you have to be born in this rather than you know learn you know a lot of
00:04:22.640stuff yeah so it's difficult so are you and barack obama are you full brothers no did you grow up
00:04:31.680together we didn't grow up together uh we heard about each other growing up i did i don't know about him
00:04:37.740um my father would say oh this is your brother and so forth and show me pictures we didn't get to
00:04:44.940grow up together until 1985 when i came to the united states okay you know and then somewhat we got in
00:04:53.020touch and everything and that's how you know physically we came to know one another and who we
00:04:58.360are yeah his mother's different and our fathers are the same okay so it's the same yeah so that's how it
00:05:04.720is so how old were you when you met him 85 i'm thinking shoot see if i can count that's uh that
00:05:12.760was 27 27 and how what's the age gap for you guys the same age now we are three years apart now well
00:05:20.060of the old i'm older than him by three years yeah i was born 58 and he's born in 1960 61 yeah and were you
00:05:29.380guys close when you met in the beginning yes because we had like we're lost lost long lost brothers and we
00:05:35.660found each other okay you know so we're trying to like catch up and that's yeah so we were really close
00:05:43.040we just like with me i just took him as i didn't bother to try to find out what his background was
00:05:50.960you know it's almost like you find like a five dollar bill and you put it in your pocket and that's
00:05:57.700how it was with me and him so i didn't try to question anything i just accepted him for who he
00:06:03.520was and he also accepted me for who i was and was civil towards each other who you know we were really
00:06:09.960nice to each other we didn't say any bad things so growing up you know how you grew up with somebody
00:06:15.720and you saw you can fight yeah you know you can fight over something maybe you know you have some
00:06:23.700toys or something like that and you fight and everything but we didn't have the luxury because
00:06:28.320we didn't grow up with another so the pressure was to be nice so we're always nice to each other
00:06:35.300but maybe you didn't know like the negative parts about him because you guys just didn't grow up together
00:06:41.600no yeah i didn't know and i wasn't even interested in knowing about i just like wanted to keep a good
00:06:47.020relationship with him and everything and hey brother and this kind of thing so and that's how it was
00:06:52.500you know yeah you guys were so close you were the best man or he was the best man in your wedding
00:06:57.920yes he was okay i was the best man at his wedding and he was the best man at my wedding
00:07:03.660you know so we try to keep it's like we were very close and the ties were supposed to be very close
00:07:10.660nothing so it was a big thing like that i went over there and his mother was alive at the time
00:07:17.020so that kept us even closer because the mother was very nice to me she treated me as her her child
00:07:24.180you know long lost child and all that stuff so she kept everything together you know so when
00:07:30.260uh he was about to get married so he called me and said brother look i want you to come and
00:07:35.400say you know i want you to represent the old man the old man's like that's my our dad you know so i
00:07:42.160went over there and i was the best man and then the same thing is when i got married and then he was
00:07:48.340my brother so you know who does anything without his brother right so i got him over and he was the best
00:07:55.000that at my wedding and so we were close and who i thought we were close you thought and who was um
00:08:01.760who is the mom like how what was she like oh and and was very nice she was sweet she was very nice and
00:08:09.440very nice lady soft-spoken um gentle uh loving uh had all nice things she said i look i reminded her of
00:08:18.140my of my of my dad oh yeah yeah that kind of thing so she was very nice every time she'd come to
00:08:24.180washington dc she'd look me up okay so what what happened where was the fall house the fall it was
00:08:31.880number okay um because what was it you had you were there i assume when he became president were you
00:08:38.080guys close then yeah we were at that time things went so bad because we were still like what you call
00:08:43.900we were related right if you know what i mean yeah we were related are you are you not related
00:08:49.600uh we are related but not related in that way because if you're like you have sisters and brothers
00:08:55.860and so forth yeah and there's there's that that about being you know a brother or a sister you know
00:09:04.500so no matter what you're still together but once he became started getting famous and uh getting all these
00:09:13.860positions and so forth especially when it was in illinois in in chicago you know i didn't get
00:09:20.440to communicate with him that much not really we were doing our own things and in 1995 i decided i want
00:09:29.420to go home you know i had a spiritual awakening and i want to go back to my roots i was into malcolm x and
00:09:36.400all that stuff and i didn't want to be close to white people and you know you know at that time that was
00:09:42.300what was going on okay yeah i mean that's my story you should read my book i have a book you know the
00:09:49.820big black brother from kenya okay yeah so you should read it you know somebody happened it's almost like
00:09:56.280malcolm x how he was you know the white man is a devil and everything and then he got enlightened and
00:10:01.760it wasn't that way anymore you know so but at 1995 i said i packed up my stuff i was working at
00:10:08.800fannie mae i'd been there for almost 10 years i was doing pretty well i was moving up and everything
00:10:12.720and i got tired i said to hell with all this western world stuff and everything i'm going to go back
00:10:17.900and put and wear my skins as an african go back to my roots hey i'm telling you there's something else
00:10:26.700that's why i'm malcolm x that's why i'm malik wow okay he's called malik el shabazz yeah so i used to be
00:10:43.560called roy roy and so i changed my name to malik okay after malcolm x oh wow yeah hey imagine all that
00:10:55.300okay so uh so i go back and two years took me two years and i was broke all the money ran out and
00:11:03.560everything and i had to come back to the usa so i come back to the usa i just come back and i land and
00:11:09.820i told the brother i called him and i said barrett i got nowhere to stay can i come up and stay with you
00:11:16.060and he says no you know so he says no because something about michelle not being comfortable
00:11:22.840with it it was michelle that lady's bad news you don't like michelle no i don't like michelle
00:11:30.160and i think she's one of the reasons why maybe me and my brother don't get along
00:11:36.700oh it's because of michelle and she may be the one who has been by the balls
00:11:40.760i'll tell you what i'll tell you what about i'll tell you what i'll tell you what about michelle okay
00:11:47.540so she actually did commit an atrocity now let me explain okay let me explain when i was in
00:11:54.140middle school or high school i can't remember what it was i think high school maybe she passed them
00:12:00.120like there was something for like healthier school lunches we used to get cookies okay she took them away
00:12:06.040she took them away yeah it was terrible because she was passing all this healthy stuff so they made
00:12:11.380it like illegal to have i don't remember how i just know that before i had cookies and after you know
00:12:16.820well joel gilbert has has a film out right now and says that you know and a book and he does claim
00:12:24.640that she's fake as a snake too you know and that she's evil and she did all all bad stuff and here
00:12:32.160you go is saying that she took away your cookies
00:12:34.000so there must be that's pretty evil yeah there must be some truth in that she's an evil woman she's evil she's really evil she's bad news yeah because she separated me from from my brother if he's my brother
00:12:51.500okay so if he's your brother because i have who was present for his birth i have no idea oh you don't know
00:13:00.840no i don't know so you just this is just based off of what you were told yeah just you know like i said we got together and because of what i was told i just you know like welcome welcomed him and that was my brother you know that was it you know at face value you know i had no question no doubt or nothing i just took him in in my heart
00:13:20.500in my heart so you tweeted interesting article i met sheila when i went to chicago after a fake ass a snake president barack obama had come down to washington dc for our first meeting in 1985
00:13:39.780always nice girl always wondered what happened to her yeah she sort of just disappeared because in 1985 what i did when he came down and we got to know one another he came down to washington dc and uh we uh that's how our relationship started
00:13:58.780and uh and uh so i went up to chicago you know to see him and uh so sheila was his girlfriend at the time
00:14:07.600yeah i remember that because there's a song by uh is it sheila he was with prince
00:14:15.560and uh that outfit out there oh sheila da da da da da da da da da yeah that kind of thing so i remember her
00:14:24.820real well because uh when i went out there he was with her you know and and all of a sudden she just
00:14:33.460disappeared you know after that i don't know what happened to her you know so um i think there was an
00:14:40.540article somewhere about her recently um that came out and uh and that's why i put her in my tweet
00:14:52.200because i don't know what happened to her up until now i haven't seen her back in 1985 all of a sudden
00:14:59.660it was it was it was michelle right yeah and you don't know how they met i don't know how they met
00:15:06.920or anything because the first time i met michelle was when i went for the wedding that was the first
00:15:14.860time you met her that's the first time i met her in 1992 yeah that's the first time wow i didn't even
00:15:21.580know who he was with or anything i was out here in washington dc and he was up there in chicago
00:15:27.480and i don't even think he was a state senator at the time 1992 maybe maybe not but i had gone for
00:15:35.200the event you know that wedding event and i was introduced to her this is michelle blah blah blah
00:15:44.060like that and everybody was there maya was there yeah the mother was there we were all there my
00:15:50.340sister was there rita was there and uh and that's how i met michelle so the second time was when she
00:15:58.100came down to my wedding and that's the closest that we've been really like in terms of like
00:16:05.160being close you know so we spent time together and this and that we you know cracked jokes and
00:16:11.000so forth but after that not really i have not had any like the direct personal close relationship
00:16:21.100with michelle she sort of like has always been in the background when we came for 25 25 2005
00:16:28.740senator when he became a senator there was the inauguration yeah he showed like in the background
00:16:34.260we didn't even get really to see one another you know sit like i'm sitting with you and talk
00:16:39.640so i haven't really like again communicated with michelle since 1993 at my wedding okay that's
00:16:49.100when we really spoke so she's just one of those she's a bad bad so why do you if you've barely
00:16:57.160spoken to her why do you have the opinion of her you do yeah because i have a feeling that you know
00:17:03.180if she was really like she would have wanted us to be together you know to have the same relationship
00:17:10.200we had before you know me being the elder brother oh but that's kind of when it switched was when she
00:17:15.580came in what's that that's when your relationship switched when she came in no what what happened
00:17:21.120was that okay like when i came back to the to the usa in 1997 and i wanted a place to stay
00:17:30.940and the reason i was given was that she wouldn't be comfortable with it you know so and immediately i
00:17:39.960said you know hey i'm his brother you know i i should be have you know have to be able to stay
00:17:48.180with him you know but if she's the one that was preventing me anyway but after but the reason
00:17:53.920that me and barack really didn't get up because i felt like he didn't have the balls you know
00:17:58.820he didn't have control he's being led by this woman yeah yeah that kind of thing and uh that he had
00:18:05.660abandoned me now uh the other thing was that okay uh what can i say by by good chance and so forth
00:18:15.260i found i got a place you know i came in here i was at uh i just dropped in i was at the train station
00:18:23.820the metro i called a friend the friend said okay he had a house he had a room yeah by all means come
00:18:30.700so i stayed with him from that time for about seven years of staying at his place so when i was
00:18:37.420at with joe so barack he called me and he's upset that i can come to the usa and not let him know that
00:18:47.020i'm here and i said to myself brother how am i supposed to call you when you couldn't let me stay at
00:18:53.820your place for all you know i could be in the gutter someplace you know i could be homeless for that
00:19:01.500matter so why are you getting upset and so he was really upset and the other thing is that my aunt up
00:19:07.660there in boston they tuni is having a hard time and you're not giving any assistance you know you're not
00:19:14.540you know helping her out you know so there were two things i didn't have a place to stay and also he was
00:19:22.220not you know he wasn't uh concerned about what's going on with my aunt and this aunt of mine is the
00:19:29.420one who welcomed him when he came to kenya in 1988 for his first visit i'm the one who made him go there
00:19:36.540because i told him we got to go and i want you to go and see you know and meet your family and all that
00:19:42.540stuff so he came so they all welcomed him welcomed him as a family member you know and they treated him
00:19:49.420real good and so forth so now when she's in bad shape he again abandoned her he wasn't doing that
00:19:55.820so that was where we really clashed because he wasn't he didn't want he didn't like the way that
00:20:01.900i was talking down to him or like scolding him you know and so there from then on you know it wasn't
00:20:10.940really like that bad but it wasn't like we were not close you know like you're just taking each other
00:20:17.100for granted you know there's a closeness where you take somebody for granted you know you don't have
00:20:21.500any questions you know if i come to your place and i'm not there's no issues there are no issues but
00:20:27.260then the issue started from there you know so okay go ahead you got some questions or you want me to go
00:20:33.260on no keep going so uh all right so after that um
00:20:38.620um okay so he goes on with his stuff he's a state senator blah blah blah so forth and so on i'm
00:20:47.020going out for my stuff and everything and then uh okay comes a time now he's getting real popular
00:20:56.700yeah he's getting known now he's going to be the first senator of chicago he's in the news and all that
00:21:02.140stuff back home in africa people oh this is our son this and that so it's a big thing all right so
00:21:09.820it's a really big thing and i have a feeling that also the press and the media they were up to
00:21:16.780something because again they had a lot of misinformation you know when they put out number one
00:21:23.900they put out the wrong location they were little little things you know the media is really yeah
00:21:29.100they they can they can change this one word and has a different context and a different meaning
00:21:35.500you know they're sinister and they're mean the media so they did all those kind of things so that we
00:21:41.100wouldn't be close there would be an issue always there's something going on you know oh i'm a muslim
00:21:47.260this and that oh i'm this thing so the media is coming for you too yeah muslim brotherhood
00:21:53.420all this and that so they never and of course he was like trying to get up there and he was
00:22:00.140i think uh concerned about his image and everything uh and so we wouldn't not one time did he ever
00:22:08.460invite me to his home i have never been to his home you know even for dinner you know just for a weekend
00:22:17.340or anything like that so to me that hurt me somewhat because what did i do to him did i sleep with
00:22:22.620the wife did i do what you know you ask yourself some questions what really horrible thing did i do
00:22:29.260you know uh other than i was calling him out for you know we call each other out and i would call him
00:22:37.020but i don't think he liked that so i'm thinking that what i did at that time may have put up uh uh
00:22:43.740brushed him the wrong way and i didn't like that and when i look at him like obama himself he doesn't
00:22:49.900like anybody who's you know telling him what to do he wants to be on the spotlight you know so that's
00:22:58.940how it came and at the inauguration we were there okay that was okay i came down and uh we attended that
00:23:07.980and at the end of the day we also attended the um the presidential inauguration and came there
00:23:18.220and so forth but after he became president when he was uh elected the president we had a talk we
00:23:26.220were still talking i had his email address and everything you know and he would call me and i'd call him i had his number
00:23:31.980so we would still talk so at that time when he was elected we had a long discussion and i told him
00:23:39.180oh brother this and that i could assist you can i work for you maybe i can help you this and that
00:23:44.700he told me that that that i'm not a citizen of the united states and i said to myself i've been in the
00:23:51.820usa from 1985 legally and working i have a green card and so forth why wouldn't i be able to work for you
00:23:59.180so number one i set up uh my foundation i still have it running the barack h obama foundation
00:24:06.220uh in memory of our dad and i told barack i said look this is a foundation that is in memory of our
00:24:14.860dad i need you to so he said i want you to he wanted me to to what you to to to to put it down
00:24:24.540you know to take it take it down you know i said no i can't do it so we clashed there too and uh and so
00:24:33.660we had our issues and so forth in the beginning and to me it was like he didn't want me close to him
00:24:40.780um for whatever reason but i'm thinking that there may have been some issues there like the optics right
00:24:47.500or me be there and me being a black black is cold you know so maybe if i went over there i might be
00:24:54.380out of place in in the white house and all his friends and so forth hey i'm just telling you all
00:24:59.900this okay so that's when you know things started changing because i didn't get the the feel that
00:25:12.460we were had a relationship it was like always like those that you know keep off you know he was
00:25:19.580trying to keep me off and you stay there and i stay here and even the time that i'd visit the white
00:25:25.820house i would make the effort i would never really invited to that place so at the end of the time at
00:25:33.420the end of his term i never said anything in public i was always in support of him you know if somebody
00:25:39.980said something and say oh is he a muslim is that i said no he's a christian you know oh what do you
00:25:46.460think what about his background and so okay is he kenyan no i said no he's american you know that kind
00:25:52.860of thing i always try to support him you know in the hope that one day he's going to acknowledge my
00:26:00.460support so at the end of his uh his term his second term now around 2015 something like that you know
00:26:11.660we sat down and i said okay these are the kind of things that we need to do and we promised he told
00:26:16.300me i'm not going to say what it is but there are some things that we're supposed to do i think he was
00:26:20.860supposed to set up some funds so scholarship fund for my children and all that stuff he promised me a
00:26:27.980couple of things you know but as time went on i said it seemed like this is he's not going to do
00:26:34.780any of this and i said to hell with him you know hell with that i've been waiting almost all this time
00:26:41.580to see if there's any any any sign you know that maybe he might you know approach and come closer you
00:26:51.820know but i saw nothing because always it was like even if i went there he was too busy he gave me like
00:26:58.06010 minutes maybe 20 minutes i gotta go but yet he was too busy with other things i said to myself hey
00:27:05.420this is too much okay so what happened was that after all this you know and then the democrats the
00:27:13.900way they were they were coming out um hillary clinton and so forth with the emails and so forth
00:27:19.500and and it seemed to me like these guys were all fake they were hypocrites because they say one
00:27:25.740thing and they do another like the uh secretary of state how can he she not know that sending these
00:27:36.220kind of emails are improper and she's the secretary of state right you know they're the ones who set the
00:27:43.340rules and they're supposed they have their security briefings they have their so-called you know she's
00:27:49.020the inside so you came to the conclusion that they're all fake they're all fake i just said to
00:27:55.980myself it was a waste of time it wasn't worth the effort and do you feel like he was always fake or do
00:28:02.940you think it it gradually became like do you think he was always like that and maybe you missed it
00:28:08.220or he gradually became like that it's hard to say because he came across as genuine in the beginning
00:28:15.740you know and then again my attitude at the time was that to take him at face value you know but i'm
00:28:23.660thinking that probably that was all a setup you know because he wanted to use that as the narrative
00:28:31.340as the basis the platform for his uh what he is for his presidency you know that uh narrative that here
00:28:44.060he is his father was so and so and this is the us of a and the us of a is that kind of country who is
00:28:53.420going to who can get a president you know not there are no restrictions you know the democracy here
00:29:03.820the kind of uh set up you know the the constitution of the united states you know and so forth and this
00:29:10.700is america and america can do this somebody who's completely what do you call it uh a different
00:29:18.940person that can be accommodated and become president of the united states so my thing is that maybe that
00:29:25.740was the bill that was the build up and uh the plan because he always told me you got to have a plan
00:29:37.020so i'm thinking that was the plan for a long time ago that's how they were gonna do it
00:29:41.580i'm not sure who it is but maybe they're you know in conjunction with some people
00:29:47.180in power and powerful because you know put him in in this place
00:29:53.900so when did you decide to start speaking publicly um because i know um there's going to be people in
00:30:00.220the audience that say you're just jealous of his success and that's why you're speaking
00:30:05.820yeah i don't think it's any they will say that but to me it's got nothing to do with jealousy because
00:30:11.660he was my brother you know i loved him and i took him unconditionally you know and i supported him
00:30:17.980through the whole his practice is present you go and look anywhere and you'll see there was no
00:30:23.020criticism i did not go against him and i i gave him all the support that he needed until the end of
00:30:32.140his presidency then i realized that he was fake well even how did you feel when he made gay marriage
00:30:39.020legal well i'm almost okay yeah because i'm like that has to go they did that does not fly enough
00:30:45.500yeah i was i i didn't support that and i said to myself that anybody who would do that must be
00:30:51.740somebody who has uh doesn't have a stand you know and then uh okay i have gay friends not like i don't
00:30:59.980have gay friends but i don't condone it i mean i would i don't think that man and man or woman and
00:31:08.220woman is a natural what do you call it uh condition right yeah you see so i didn't support that you know
00:31:17.660and i'm not sure if he's doing it because he's part of that you know uh or uh he's trying to please
00:31:27.820somebody uh or he's just like uh he doesn't he stands for anything you know did you um did you see
00:31:37.180the recent interview of the guy that claimed he slept with barack obama
00:31:41.580i didn't see it but i've heard about it that guy uh sinclair yeah you think it's true why would
00:31:50.460anybody go out there and passionately say things like that just for no reason why i know why would
00:31:58.700there i mean clout's a powerful drug for what clout's a powerful drug club i think that's what
00:32:04.940people would say people will say things for attention money no i have a feeling that where
00:32:13.740there's fire there's smoke yeah where there's fire there's smoke and a person to go and just
00:32:22.060uh make those claims yeah and they're dangerous claims you know there must have been something going
00:32:31.740on what do you think about the claims that michelle obama is a man have you heard that well michelle
00:32:38.780when i first met her she looked very much like a woman okay on those days but i haven't seen her
00:32:45.420i haven't been close to her for a very long time like i said since 2000 and uh since 1992 right
00:32:53.420it's in 1990 that's before i was born it's a long yeah a long time ago you know what i'm saying yeah and
00:32:58.700these days what i see of her is in the press the media pictures and my question is how can she all
00:33:05.900of a sudden be so big i don't know you know and then at times when she's on her like the moon the the
00:33:16.460her book yeah cover of her book she looks so different she looks like a woman she's so pretty
00:33:22.700and everything and all of a sudden when you see her like uh someplace she has bras so shoulders yeah
00:33:29.340and she's she looks like a man even right now if you see the pictures of her in france
00:33:34.860she looks like a man you know but right now there's a picture of her when they're celebrating their uh
00:33:42.060is it their 30th year yeah marriage the anniversary she looks like a woman again
00:33:47.900so i'm saying what's going on is she on drugs is she on something she's morphing she's changing so
00:33:55.100that's also very interesting in that what is she you know who is she and then you have the picture of
00:34:02.220her with ellen the generous the one and then you know you can see something like you know
00:34:07.900a dick you know yeah you know what i'm saying and you wonder you know are you really seeing this is
00:34:18.940it really true is it what so i have questions whether obama is gay i have questions right you
00:34:25.100know it's not like the other day you're not you're not certain one yeah i'm not sure anymore i'm not
00:34:29.660sure i can't say because i can't say she's a man because i haven't seen her naked right you know
00:34:35.740her but you didn't know her nakedness right but if she was you wouldn't know because you didn't
00:34:40.700even meet her until the wedding day no no it's hard to say you know these days you can't even tell
00:34:45.420i mean are you a woman no i'm just saying i'm just saying these days you can't tell you got the
00:34:52.620transgender people you got like this yeah this is it mulvaney oh dylan mulvaney oh come on dylan
00:35:01.260wouldn't fool you hey she looks like a girl no yeah yeah she does and she won the the the the
00:35:08.140what do you call it the woman of the year award yeah yeah hey you can't tell anymore you know you
00:35:15.900see what i'm saying so it's hard but uh no no really seriously it's difficult to say okay difficult
00:35:23.180to say i'm not sure anymore on august 26 2023 you tweeted out if my father barack obama
00:35:31.260is fake at as a snake um then fake at as a snake barack obama's ancestral home is kenya and he fake
00:35:45.180as a snake president barack obama is kenyan yeah what i was trying to say this is that if if my if my
00:35:53.580brother fake is a snake barack obama president if his father is barack obama you know my father you
00:36:02.940know and my father is kenyan then because his father is a kenyan then he's a kenyan okay but do you think
00:36:12.540he was born in kenya not that he was born in kenya but like let's say if maybe if i'm if i'm an american
00:36:19.980right now and i have children in kenya right are they not american or are they kenyan or they're both
00:36:27.900i guess both but they're both but they're still kids but they're still american right right yeah just
00:36:33.340like he if his father is kenyan right and he's born in in the usa is he not kenyan
00:36:43.020yeah he's part kenyan yeah he's because he's he's mixed doesn't mean i think he's having his mother's
00:36:47.740american yeah but because i think paternally because the world is is a paternal world and culturally even
00:36:57.020you asked me about the culture of kenya and everything but as far as we're concerned we take
00:37:02.140on the nationality uh of the father right say for example in my culture all right uh you have a
00:37:12.140household or a family a father and a mother okay so when you're born say i'm from like right now from
00:37:20.460kisumu it's a place called kisumu i'm a lugo and i'm from kisumu and uh there's a the in kisumu there's
00:37:28.300different areas like i'm from a lego you know and then um my wife say for example okay say you're my
00:37:36.540wife okay and we go back to kenya okay and we have children okay my children are kenyan our children are
00:37:44.460kenyan okay are you getting me yeah i understand yeah yeah so it's me and you and my children yeah
00:37:51.020the children would be my nationality oh not the mother yeah okay not the mother's nationality right
00:37:57.260yeah i mean most cultures that's how it is because even if it's a religion and so forth you're supposed
00:38:03.900to assume your husbands right i don't know but you talk about this a lot yeah well i think we would
00:38:10.540just say mixed here you know but but when you talk about this a lot but traditionally even in england i
00:38:16.060think that that's how it was it was yeah even in europe i think that's how it was yeah until all this
00:38:22.380stuff came about with feminism yeah all this stuff going around and nobody really knows what's going on
00:38:28.380anymore you know so but that's how it is and that's how it was you know but because okay um he was born in
00:38:36.300the usa okay so i guess accordingly because he was born here then he's an american yes but you could
00:38:45.740still argue that he's a kenyan because his father is a kenyan also if that is his father and you're not
00:38:52.540sure that's his father i'm just saying that if he claims and he says that is his father then he's kenyan
00:38:58.860because his father was kenyan okay but you have you seen the uh because i ever since i was a kid i
00:39:05.980always saw articles saying that oh that that barack obama wasn't born here well oh i can't say because
00:39:15.340i wasn't yeah you weren't there you know i wasn't there you know and um he's been all over he's been
00:39:22.460but he could have been born here i mean and he says he's born here so he's born here there's nothing wrong
00:39:27.900with that but when you think the logic behind what i said on that his father was kenyan and and if his
00:39:34.380father was alive his father would have the right to claim him and say this is my son and my father
00:39:40.140definitely would be here for a life would say that he's kenyan so you also tweeted out long time