JustPearlyThings - April 02, 2023


This conversation Proved why Men Need Paternity Tests


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Length

10 minutes

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224.43451

Word Count

2,292

Sentence Count

220

Misogynist Sentences

28

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary

In this episode, we talk about the abortion crisis in Jamaica and the impact it could have on our society. We discuss whether or not men should have a say in the matter, and if they should be involved in the decision to have an abortion. We also discuss the dangers of backstreet abortions and illegal abortions.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I also think, like, you know, you said about, like,
00:00:02.880 backstreet abortions and illegal abortions or whatever.
00:00:06.220 I, sure, naturally, that might happen.
00:00:10.900 But I also think it's possible that if women don't have the option
00:00:13.680 for abortion, that they might be more careful.
00:00:16.320 Because can you imagine, like, if we were living, like,
00:00:19.680 how we all are today, and, like, let's say, like,
00:00:23.140 you go out clubbing, you find someone,
00:00:24.380 you have a one-night stand or whatever.
00:00:26.400 Like, I don't know.
00:00:27.800 You should never use contraception because I can't get an abortion.
00:00:29.760 Like, oh, my God, like, if I had to go in for an abortion,
00:00:33.200 like, I just think the fear of that, like, I think over the last
00:00:36.320 three years, I've certainly gathered that fear controls people
00:00:39.620 and fear, like, instils certain behaviours in people.
00:00:42.320 And I think by not having the option for abortion,
00:00:46.200 generally speaking, say, 99% of the time,
00:00:49.140 I think women would just sort of wise up.
00:00:51.920 We're not silly.
00:00:52.780 If you know that it's going to be difficult to do something,
00:00:54.840 you'd avoid doing anything that would lead to that being
00:00:57.380 the consequence.
00:00:58.180 That's just what I think.
00:00:59.760 It's actually true.
00:01:01.420 I don't agree with abortion.
00:01:02.680 I just believe that people should have a choice.
00:01:04.820 That's my main feeling.
00:01:05.500 Like me.
00:01:05.820 I don't agree with it because I don't think it should take my life.
00:01:08.580 Personally, I don't agree with it.
00:01:09.500 However, I do believe that we should have a say.
00:01:12.040 Do you think that women should be limited on how many abortions
00:01:14.740 they can have?
00:01:15.420 Oh, yes.
00:01:16.040 Definitely.
00:01:16.600 Yes, definitely.
00:01:17.200 Definitely.
00:01:17.520 Because after that first time,
00:01:18.620 you shouldn't even be wanting to make stupid mistakes
00:01:20.920 like that again.
00:01:21.340 It should be a lesson.
00:01:22.020 Do you think men should have a say in abortion?
00:01:24.220 Yeah.
00:01:24.640 So do you think if I got pregnant and I wanted to abort it
00:01:28.240 and a guy wanted me to keep it, should he have a say?
00:01:30.380 Yeah.
00:01:30.700 Yeah.
00:01:31.080 He has a say, but you have to come to a...
00:01:33.240 No, like a legal say.
00:01:34.360 Yeah.
00:01:34.580 Like both parents need to sign off on the abortion.
00:01:37.780 Yeah.
00:01:37.980 That would be very practical.
00:01:39.080 I think that is correct.
00:01:40.680 Yeah, because she could have the baby and then like he,
00:01:43.480 she might not want it.
00:01:44.760 Say, for example,
00:01:45.600 I understand there's a burden in carrying a child,
00:01:47.480 but we have to be responsible in a sense.
00:01:49.860 Mutual agreement.
00:01:50.740 Then, yeah, I get that.
00:01:52.020 I think.
00:01:52.360 That would be hard.
00:01:53.100 Because it would be easy to just say,
00:01:54.200 I don't know who the father is.
00:01:56.340 I feel like a lot of people would do that.
00:01:57.860 Yeah, I feel like a lot of people would probably say
00:01:59.740 they don't know who the father is.
00:02:00.820 Yeah, but there's ways to find out if they are the father.
00:02:03.160 So if a man wants the child,
00:02:04.580 then I think that's really unfair to take that away from him.
00:02:07.060 Yeah, really, definitely.
00:02:07.900 Because when you become a mum,
00:02:09.140 like you're so happy you've got a baby,
00:02:10.740 like for someone to steal that away from me
00:02:12.840 or like change their mind three months in
00:02:15.580 and you're so happy to take that away
00:02:17.680 and you've got no say in it,
00:02:18.900 that's heartbreaking, of course.
00:02:20.820 But also, I feel like maybe these women would,
00:02:24.400 I mean, would they be changing their minds
00:02:26.760 because of something very serious
00:02:29.100 or is it just like,
00:02:30.720 oh, I don't want to be a mum?
00:02:31.720 I understand I've said that women have the right to do that,
00:02:33.080 but I just think at a certain point of the pregnancy,
00:02:35.800 you can't be chopping and changing
00:02:37.620 because from when you tell a man you're pregnant,
00:02:40.140 like he's in his element,
00:02:41.220 so to take that away from him,
00:02:42.760 you're still in his dream
00:02:43.620 because a lot of us dream of having a family,
00:02:46.120 so I just think you can't chuff and change there.
00:02:48.500 It's 50% his DNA.
00:02:50.100 Why doesn't he get 50% of the choice?
00:02:51.840 I believe he should have 50% of the choice.
00:02:53.940 But then what would happen if they don't agree?
00:02:55.860 How would they?
00:02:56.420 They would have to go to court.
00:02:58.200 Yeah, I know.
00:02:58.680 No, they have to agree in order for it to happen.
00:03:00.460 Yeah, so what if one is continuing saying nope
00:03:02.060 and the other saying yes?
00:03:02.960 Then it won't happen.
00:03:04.220 Then it wouldn't happen.
00:03:06.200 Yeah.
00:03:07.340 That's why I was saying they both have to sign off
00:03:09.260 in order for it to be an abortion.
00:03:10.580 Do you guys think that women should serve jail time
00:03:14.220 if they allow a man to raise a kid that's not his?
00:03:17.580 Yes, 100%.
00:03:18.260 I think that's evil.
00:03:19.080 That is so evil.
00:03:20.200 I think it's so evil.
00:03:20.720 In Jamaica we call that jacket.
00:03:22.780 Basically you give someone a jacket.
00:03:24.480 Yeah, that's evil.
00:03:24.960 That is really, really evil.
00:03:27.220 It's horrible.
00:03:28.720 I definitely think that's a crime.
00:03:30.440 Definitely.
00:03:31.100 Because a man,
00:03:31.820 imagine you're raising that child,
00:03:32.940 you create a bond,
00:03:33.700 you love them,
00:03:34.660 you give them your all,
00:03:35.900 financially, spiritually, everything.
00:03:37.380 And then to find out when they're 25.
00:03:39.160 That should be like a live sentence.
00:03:41.040 Like a man's raised the kid for 15 years
00:03:43.120 and then you find out it's not yours.
00:03:44.500 That's horrible.
00:03:45.040 There should definitely be punishment for that.
00:03:46.720 That is horrible.
00:03:48.480 But then on the flip side,
00:03:49.900 we're living in a time
00:03:51.180 where guys can get DNA tests.
00:03:53.240 Yeah, but if you've told someone
00:03:55.100 it's their child,
00:03:55.760 why are they going to get DNA tests?
00:03:56.660 It's illegal in France to DNA test.
00:03:59.100 Really?
00:03:59.760 Oh, wow.
00:04:00.780 I think it's either
00:04:01.840 they both have to sign off on it.
00:04:04.540 So if the woman doesn't want him to,
00:04:06.460 she can just...
00:04:07.400 No way, that's insane.
00:04:08.440 But that kind of shows already.
00:04:10.520 If the woman's saying,
00:04:11.340 no, you're not,
00:04:12.020 no, you're not going to get DNA test.
00:04:13.680 But then some women do say no
00:04:15.380 and they know that the child is the man's.
00:04:18.880 I think there should be
00:04:19.540 mandatory paternity tests.
00:04:20.800 I feel like it should be
00:04:21.940 because then it will get over
00:04:23.040 the emotional thing of,
00:04:24.320 oh, because you're my partner,
00:04:25.780 because if it's happening to everyone,
00:04:27.220 it's fine.
00:04:28.080 But I definitely think
00:04:28.860 that they should serve jail time.
00:04:30.480 Long sentence.
00:04:31.360 Everyone should get a DNA test.
00:04:32.580 Are DNA tests expensive?
00:04:33.580 Yeah, they're about...
00:04:34.660 Did you say they should be mandatory?
00:04:37.000 No, I don't think
00:04:37.860 that should be mandatory
00:04:38.660 to check that the child's demands.
00:04:41.800 No, I think it should.
00:04:43.160 I think it should be.
00:04:43.960 You think it should?
00:04:45.380 Yeah, I think there's so many men
00:04:46.720 that are afraid to do it.
00:04:48.300 One, because they don't want her
00:04:49.380 to freak out.
00:04:50.220 And I think there's a lot of guys
00:04:51.920 that get trapped in paternity fraud.
00:04:53.600 It's a really common thing,
00:04:54.720 especially like in the US.
00:04:56.240 Yeah.
00:04:56.700 I just think from a government perspective,
00:04:58.400 it would avoid a lot of issues.
00:04:59.960 No, I don't think that's for her at all.
00:05:01.580 And to avoid having to have the conversation
00:05:03.600 because it's a protocol for everyone.
00:05:05.240 Do you know what I mean?
00:05:05.720 DNA tests.
00:05:06.240 I wouldn't do that
00:05:06.540 and I would never cheat on my partner.
00:05:08.600 But that's you.
00:05:09.660 I understand.
00:05:10.060 Somebody else.
00:05:10.600 Do you know, somebody else might want to rule that out.
00:05:12.760 I just don't think it's fair
00:05:13.440 to do that to somebody.
00:05:15.140 Why would you care if the kid's his?
00:05:17.540 Yeah.
00:05:17.960 I just don't think it's fair.
00:05:19.580 Why would I have a DNA test?
00:05:21.400 I don't need to.
00:05:22.180 I know that's my man's child.
00:05:23.400 I'm speaking from me,
00:05:24.260 I suppose,
00:05:24.700 from a selfish perspective,
00:05:26.080 but I just don't think
00:05:27.620 that would be fair.
00:05:28.340 There's something a bit weird about it.
00:05:31.520 It doesn't feel right.
00:05:33.560 It's a real problem in society
00:05:35.220 if you have to put that in place.
00:05:37.060 And then you're saying
00:05:37.960 there is a problem.
00:05:38.860 That's scary.
00:05:40.040 That is really scary.
00:05:41.440 This is where we are now.
00:05:42.540 When you think about it,
00:05:43.120 there's a lot of women
00:05:43.780 that probably have done it
00:05:44.700 or even in a situation right now
00:05:46.080 are actually doing it.
00:05:47.460 The world's just destroyed
00:05:48.340 just to hide what they've done.
00:05:49.780 Even until the man dies,
00:05:50.980 they'll keep that to their grave.
00:05:52.740 There's people that do that.
00:05:53.460 So I agree.
00:05:54.100 That is crazy.
00:05:55.140 I agree you should have it.
00:05:56.200 We live in a crazy world.
00:05:57.140 Also, I just want to put
00:05:58.520 a really niche perspective in there.
00:06:01.240 I mentioned I'm adopted.
00:06:03.660 On the search for your parents,
00:06:05.000 if it was done mandatory at birth,
00:06:06.980 at least you'd know.
00:06:08.280 Yeah, true.
00:06:08.900 I know it's such a small minority of people,
00:06:12.800 but you need to be able to know.
00:06:14.820 But it's not really a minority
00:06:15.980 because there are a lot of people
00:06:16.920 must like...
00:06:18.200 I think it's only like 2,000 kids a year are adopted.
00:06:20.860 I think there should be an option for it.
00:06:23.660 So 30% of paternity tests are negative.
00:06:26.960 Wow.
00:06:27.540 No way.
00:06:28.540 Wow.
00:06:28.980 That is crazy.
00:06:30.200 That should be a...
00:06:31.120 That is mad.
00:06:33.180 From a societal perspective,
00:06:34.960 if it's that common of an issue...
00:06:37.300 That is insane.
00:06:38.260 I can't believe you telling me that.
00:06:39.280 And let's say we cut it in half
00:06:40.920 because, you know,
00:06:41.500 people getting that
00:06:42.180 might be more likely to do it.
00:06:43.580 Let's cut it in half
00:06:44.500 and say it's 15%.
00:06:45.360 That's still 1 in 10.
00:06:46.740 Yeah, that's crazy.
00:06:47.420 1.5 in 10.
00:06:48.720 No, that's insane.
00:06:49.780 No, that's insane.
00:06:51.040 But then if DNA was actually mandatory,
00:06:53.000 that might actually put fuel
00:06:54.260 to the problem anyway
00:06:55.400 in the get-go
00:06:56.460 because then females
00:06:57.420 wouldn't really care
00:06:58.380 about being cautious of,
00:07:00.420 OK, if I sleep with him,
00:07:01.600 you are the father.
00:07:02.280 Don't sleep with anybody.
00:07:03.140 OK, mandatory.
00:07:04.180 And the DNA test,
00:07:05.980 I'll just check who's the father
00:07:07.080 and boom, it's you.
00:07:07.940 Just pick who's the father.
00:07:09.160 That's it.
00:07:09.800 So it would add to the problem.
00:07:10.780 No, you get one.
00:07:11.160 I think it'll make them
00:07:12.380 have sex with one person more
00:07:14.840 because it's like,
00:07:16.600 I'm not trying to go through
00:07:17.620 that thing where
00:07:18.400 I give you the DNA test
00:07:19.780 you're not the dad.
00:07:20.920 Some girls don't care about that.
00:07:22.680 They care about that.
00:07:23.420 Well, I think good girls
00:07:24.320 would act the same
00:07:25.440 but the girls that would do that
00:07:26.920 would probably be less likely
00:07:28.280 to try to commit paternity fraud.
00:07:30.420 Yeah.
00:07:30.860 If they knew they would get caught
00:07:32.500 when the baby came out.
00:07:34.160 But then how many good girls
00:07:35.220 are there?
00:07:36.120 We're not facing that much good girls.
00:07:37.100 That's why it should be mandatory.
00:07:38.840 Yeah.
00:07:39.340 That should be mandatory.
00:07:40.180 It's like a child's certificate.
00:07:41.520 But wouldn't you say
00:07:42.720 that's why it should be mandatory?
00:07:44.000 Yeah, I think it should.
00:07:44.920 It would add to the problem
00:07:46.220 if it was mandatory.
00:07:47.540 I think it would lessen.
00:07:48.360 I don't understand how
00:07:49.260 you can explain that to me.
00:07:50.700 Because then females
00:07:51.660 would not take precaution
00:07:52.760 in who they sleep with
00:07:54.700 in terms of
00:07:55.980 it wouldn't really matter
00:07:58.240 because then their DNA test
00:07:59.920 will actually tell them
00:08:00.660 who the father is.
00:08:01.660 Why would they be less
00:08:02.860 they would be less cautious
00:08:03.940 because there's a DNA test at birth?
00:08:05.680 Yeah, because it's mandatory.
00:08:07.280 So it doesn't matter
00:08:08.760 who the father is.
00:08:09.640 It would just tell them
00:08:10.320 who the father is
00:08:11.100 and that would be it.
00:08:11.920 They could sleep with multiple guys
00:08:13.040 at the same time.
00:08:13.820 Do you think women are cautious now?
00:08:17.300 No.
00:08:17.700 To a degree.
00:08:18.800 To a degree.
00:08:20.040 But you just said
00:08:20.880 that there's no good girl
00:08:21.840 or there's very few good girls.
00:08:25.380 To a degree.
00:08:26.500 They actually are cautious.
00:08:27.980 Like they don't sleep
00:08:28.680 with 10 men at the same time.
00:08:30.220 To a degree.
00:08:31.240 If you had a mandatory DNA test
00:08:33.380 then they will sleep
00:08:34.160 with 10 men in one night
00:08:35.200 and wouldn't care
00:08:35.900 who the father is.
00:08:36.960 No, but you'd have to pick the dad
00:08:38.340 and then you'll give
00:08:38.980 that person the DNA test
00:08:40.300 and then if he's not the dad
00:08:41.420 you have to find the other person.
00:08:42.540 But then she'd be the problem
00:08:43.100 because she wouldn't be
00:08:43.900 speaking to a man
00:08:44.820 saying like it's your child.
00:08:46.860 She wouldn't even know
00:08:47.520 who the child is.
00:08:48.440 So there'd be no fraud
00:08:49.200 in the first case.
00:08:50.200 It's all based on the mind.
00:08:51.040 But so what's the alternative
00:08:54.180 if she just guesses?
00:08:55.480 Yeah.
00:08:56.100 Do you all have to guess?
00:08:57.460 Baby should have to wait
00:08:58.140 till the child comes out
00:08:58.940 and say who does it look like the man?
00:09:00.100 You couldn't even do that though.
00:09:01.240 She just wouldn't know
00:09:01.900 who the dad is
00:09:02.680 because she's been with so many men.
00:09:04.360 Yeah.
00:09:04.640 Oh God.
00:09:05.580 And it would be even more sad
00:09:07.000 if like she cheated
00:09:07.780 on her partner obviously
00:09:08.740 and the partner's there
00:09:09.720 so excited.
00:09:10.600 Yeah, do the DNA test.
00:09:12.000 Boom, negative.
00:09:13.160 Wait, did you see that video
00:09:14.700 or that article
00:09:16.060 where the baby
00:09:16.840 it was like two white people.
00:09:18.580 The baby came out black
00:09:19.760 and she accused the guy
00:09:21.340 of sleeping with a black girl.
00:09:22.800 What?
00:09:23.200 Oh yeah.
00:09:23.820 Was that a worry?
00:09:24.800 That was a worry.
00:09:27.300 I was just like
00:09:29.500 what world do we live in?
00:09:31.540 Crazy.
00:09:34.080 Okay, I'm going to read
00:09:34.900 Super Cats again.
00:09:36.800 Who is this woman?
00:09:37.620 That is so silly.
00:09:39.860 How does that happen?
00:09:42.180 I don't know.
00:09:42.940 I think some people
00:09:43.800 it's kind of like liars
00:09:44.740 will die out a lot.
00:09:45.880 Yeah.
00:09:46.260 You could say okay
00:09:47.420 point A
00:09:48.420 of why you're lying
00:09:49.460 point B
00:09:50.360 of why you're lying
00:09:51.200 and point C
00:09:51.920 of why you're lying
00:09:52.440 but they'll die on it.
00:09:53.860 They'll die on that hill
00:09:55.080 for whatever reason.
00:09:56.560 As many of you know
00:09:57.540 I was just banned
00:09:58.760 on TikTok
00:09:59.660 and we are demonetized
00:10:01.380 on a daily basis
00:10:02.620 on this platform.
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