JustPearlyThings - July 29, 2023


Trans Woman REGRETS His Transitioning


Episode Stats


Length

9 minutes

Words per minute

173.99234

Word count

1,590

Sentence count

1

Harmful content

Misogyny

3

sentences flagged

Hate speech

6

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Summary

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In this episode, we discuss the dangers of transphobia in the trans community and how to deal with it. We also talk about the transphobic culture in the UK and how it affects trans people in general.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 and um now all of a sudden I've had zero self-esteem it's been crushed for years
00:00:06.460 by myself by I was like completely like shut in never went outside and then they're telling
00:00:13.480 everything I need to hear and then you compare that with how you used to be and you're thinking
00:00:19.100 well why would or why would I want to go back this is such a great thing you know what I mean
00:00:24.980 so it's like you're already confused you're mentally ill and a lot of these people that
00:00:31.440 are coming in are autistic or have some sort of diagnosed mental disorder yeah and come in and 0.99
00:00:37.000 they say and I'd imagine I'm not like an expert on autism so don't don't quote me on this but I'd
00:00:42.780 imagine like people that are autistic the ones I've met are very like logical and so if you give them
00:00:48.100 an instruction manual manual on how to be happy then yeah and especially if they're vulnerable
00:00:55.800 maybe don't have like family around them yeah and there's there is a danger group which is the group
00:01:01.620 that I'm most worried about which is when the kind of fall out of that safeguard sort of age category
00:01:08.320 um and it's kind of like that 18 or 29 year old phase they're the ones who are always getting
00:01:14.560 unrobed into sex with much older trans sexual men or agps whatever you want to call them um we've all 0.95
00:01:21.500 had instances we've all had experiences of because they feel like because you're trans and they're trans
00:01:28.680 they feel like they have like some sort of entitlement to you as well not just offline but online as well and
00:01:36.200 it's uh yeah sorry no you're okay um that just lost me train of thought so the older trans um people
00:01:47.940 will then try to have sex with the younger trans people too and not every single personal experience 0.67
00:01:55.160 but they are very very it's like a common trend yeah yeah absolutely 100 they're always trying it on
00:02:01.740 so you go to the trans or um the nhs and you tell them and is is this free in the uk
00:02:08.160 yeah so let me tell you what happened what the timeline was i again they told us what to do so
00:02:15.440 self-referred to me doctor in about september october 23rd enish right and they uh me doctor took the
00:02:24.000 referral took all the notes and to be fair she captured everything that i said and she i think what
00:02:30.580 she thought would happen is the gender clinic would be like oh this person obviously has xyz going on 1.00
00:02:36.500 we should filter their mouth that's what probably should have happened at that stage but what happened
00:02:41.420 was is they looked at it and they're like oh that's an ideal candidate of course come in however there
00:02:46.760 was a 15 month wait so at this time i'm also under the impression that testosterone is continuing
00:02:55.980 a poison in my body it's like an infection and somebody with ocd contamination and all that sort
00:03:03.680 of thing is i wasn't like an obsessive hand washer or anything but i did have like a lot of obsessive
00:03:09.000 compulsions like um that they don't make a lot of sense to you like compulsive praying and
00:03:15.260 you're touching the wall or the door the light switch and stuff like that just to ease anxiety
00:03:21.220 um but sorry i'm i'm going at 100 miles an hour i'm a little bit nervous still i'm sorry
00:03:27.540 um where was that what was it so i wanted to figure out what happened when you went to the nhs
00:03:34.020 right sorry yeah so meeting with them well yeah i think i really need to put this context in
00:03:41.220 so i had this 15 month wait and i get told that um and i believed it that my body was being poisoned by
00:03:49.120 testosterone and there was like this loophole where if you had testosterone's poisoning you
00:03:55.260 yeah that's what i felt like i felt like my body was being poisoned by testosterone
00:03:59.200 it's just like the feminists i'll tell you they would say that okay go ahead 1.00
00:04:03.940 um so it's like yeah you say all the time there's memes like i survived testosterone poisoning
00:04:10.240 and stuff like that yeah and there's t-shirts i've never seen those memes but i'll take your word
00:04:15.360 yeah you can well anyway um i'll take your word so i got told jokes are like common is what you're
00:04:22.900 saying yeah yeah absolutely it's like they're in jokes the egg irl jokes where people go to have
00:04:28.860 their egg cracked which is another conversation but back to the timeline very quickly um i got told
00:04:35.740 there was this 15 month wait and it was going to be over a year to look at these blockers so i learned
00:04:43.400 that if you had two private psychiatric assessments with clinicians who worked for the nhs as well so
00:04:51.640 they did this on the side then because they were approved like gender doctors in the uk or whatever
00:04:58.200 like they were on like some list and i got told you get your private assessment with them
00:05:03.260 then the nhs can prescribe you the bloggers before you even enter the clinic
00:05:07.920 now i did that but i was earning like near minimum wage so i had to get it what's called a payday loan
00:05:14.240 which is like you get you get the money and the idea is you pay back in two or three days but it's got
00:05:20.020 three four thousand apr with percent abr so it's like if you don't pay it back 50 pound for instance
00:05:27.400 can turn into a thousand pound very quickly um and i took 500 out and i couldn't really pay it back
00:05:33.900 so i fell into mega debt with this stupid payday loan because i was so desperate for it and uh after
00:05:39.580 some two in and fro the gender clinic who hadn't seen us yet agreed with the approved gender therapist
00:05:47.380 person who appeared privately to for them to prescribe me the bloggers but they wouldn't give us
00:05:54.180 the estrogen until i saw them in 2015 so my actual first session with them was in like with the
00:06:02.140 psychiatrist was in january 2015 and that's when i when i went in the first question they said was
00:06:08.380 do you want surgery and i was like shit i don't think so i want some therapy first um and then i got 0.90
00:06:14.780 signed up for a gender therapist in the march 2015 and then i had me follow-up because i get follow-ups
00:06:20.820 gender therapists they're just like feminists that hate men so they're like change change i don't i 0.98
00:06:27.060 don't know if they've like got hatred in their hearts these people i think they believe in what
00:06:32.620 they're doing but i also think a lot of people are tired because what you have to understand in the nhs
00:06:36.780 anyway when you work in the gender clinic you kind of get shunned by a lot of and like other people in
00:06:43.040 the nhs because the a lot of people don't know i didn't know this until like i spoke to a lot of
00:06:49.320 nurses and people on the side where they were saying the whole the whole nhs really looks down
00:06:55.820 on the gender clinics because they think it's savage they think it's immoral but they're not allowed to 0.99
00:07:00.760 speak about it like so many people share that view yeah so but basically it's these are people with
00:07:07.400 an ideology that are taught yes absolutely yeah they're not saying are you sure they're not saying
00:07:12.840 they're they're pushing you to get the surgery and that is the answer no anytime i've expressed doubt
00:07:18.500 about anything i had talks about um internalized transphobia and i got explained at me how we live
00:07:26.020 in a cis sexist society um and how i was struggling to navigate with that and yeah see they do hate men
00:07:34.420 you see it's like they don't care they hate men and women uh they hate everyone i suppose but i mean
00:07:42.780 in the underlying premise when you boil it down like that but again those individuals i don't think
00:07:48.880 they've ever sat back and looked at it through that lens they just see it as altruistic yeah it's like
00:07:55.480 propaganda i mean they've been propagated for like 10 years like yeah and when you see study after
00:08:03.680 study that venerates what you're saying and you see patient after patient that venerates what you're
00:08:09.720 saying it's very hard and you've milled your livelihood on it yeah who are you to step back
00:08:14.340 so i've got a lot of respect for the whistleblowers at tavistock especially because that there was like
00:08:19.180 30 odd of them you know it wasn't just two or three yeah that was for the children's clinic
00:08:23.320 yeah well it's um even the studies they're funded by a lot of these like ideologues
00:08:29.720 you might have gone down that rabbit hole too yeah i have i'll tell you so yeah um michael biggs
00:08:36.140 has done some brilliant research on this so if you look at the 2006 dutch protocol study the famous
00:08:44.740 one that set the president for puberty blockers and stuff like that that was mainly um funded by
00:08:52.380 i think they were called ferrying pharmaceuticals they funded that study and guess guess take a guess
00:09:00.560 who has the market monopoly on the gnrh anti-antagonists they do
00:09:07.060 oh