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- March 25, 2023
Troy Francis Outlines Double Standards in the dating Market
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Length
11 minutes
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206.16113
Word Count
2,320
Sentence Count
2
Misogynist Sentences
16
Hate Speech Sentences
9
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there are to to play devil's advocate here i think there are there are deviate there are small
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deviations though right because i i've got i've got friends like even people say yeah guys are
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just very shallow you're only motivated by lurks etc and there's a lot of truth in that however i've
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got male friends and some of the there are there are differences and quite large differences between
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the type of women that say i would be attracted to versus what my friends attracted to you know
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sometimes i look at my friend and i'm like really you know and and he may well think the same thing
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about me so i think it's that and that i sense with women as well that's also the case and maybe
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it's more with women i don't know because it seems like for me like if i got a dating app for example
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so if i deal with a lot of guys who use tinder and they don't get very good results and then they do
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they they'll meet women in the daytime or they meet women at you know at a night at a lounge bar or a
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party or whatever and they get much better results so what's happening there they haven't changed it's
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not like they've become magically better looking it must be that their personality is conveying
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something when they go into the interaction so i think for men actually you know as a personality
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the way that you deliver yourself the way that you put yourself across does make a difference yeah
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and guys can't take pictures either
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would you say that it's obvious who's more attractive when it comes to men yes
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yes i'll say it's more obvious than women like the the guy that we just showed you versus
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channing tatum who's hotter yes channing channing 100 why why is there no oh it depends
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we can't say that it depends which goes back to which is going to sound so bad i don't even know
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what he looks i don't know people by names half the time so channing who i don't know you you
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know you definitely know him when you put him up you know him yeah you gotta put him up i'm
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really okay we can show leonardo dicaprio yeah we could do leo oh i like leo yeah is he hot is he
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hot now yeah now he's not but he was titanic times he was channing tatum was the guy in that
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strip yeah channing tatum yes gorgeous oh yeah yeah but it depends but they're the same no it depends on
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on the girl no it does depend on the girl yeah but james altucher is a 10 to himself
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but see this is the only reason i'm doing this is because it kind of shows the point where i think
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that men have higher beauty standards than women and are held up to a higher standard when it comes
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to beauty because like women will say that we're tens but a man like we'll do a picture and we'll say
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he's a four or two i think it's more acceptable to slate guys looks now actually perhaps than it than
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you know than for a man to slate a woman's looks do you know what i mean um i had a next guy i
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shouldn't even i shouldn't even share this really she's getting a bit vulnerable i had a next girlfriend
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once right and um we uh and i was um what was i like in my late i was like 35 or something like that
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i was late 30s or something like that and we were together she was she was younger than me and she said
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to me um one time uh oh you know i wish i'd have i wish i'd have got with you when you were in your
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twenties you know when you were really in your prime and i was thinking and i i always remembered
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that and i i sort of laughed it off at the time but i was thinking god if i said that to a woman
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can you imagine how castigated i get can you imagine if i dated you know if i dated a woman who
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was like at 40 or something like oh god i wish i'd have got with you when you were like 25 you know like
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like and i'm not saying it was acceptable for her to have said that but it feels more acceptable
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you know for a woman to say something like that about a man um so yeah you know i think there is a
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little bit of a double standard these yeah 100 100 that is a horrible thing to say
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it's all right i wasn't hot then either so it's fine do you guys think the phrase is true that men
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would have sex with anyone yeah yeah i agree i'd like to think my boyfriend has standards
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a lot of men out there will definitely have sex with anyone 100 even women that they will say oh you
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know you'll have some men and they'll be like oh i would never have sex with this woman but you'll
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be surprised they do they just probably don't speak about it don't they need to get aroused first
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like i feel like i don't care about that as trash as you think they are but i feel like in this day
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and age some men don't care about that they'll actually just sleep with whoever yeah but they
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probably won't speak about it because they'll be ashamed in a way but i feel like men are okay to be
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aroused i know have you heard the percentage rate of people having sex please tell me
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i told you it's low standards at the moment yeah exactly so they will go for anyone they will
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i still have the belief i feel like they have to disagree they need to be aroused i'm just curious
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have you guys's mind changed at all about who has higher standards men or women and who's pickier
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men or women no i definitely feel like men you still think men are pickier i think women i think women
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women are yeah yeah i definitely know i'm picking and when it comes down to men um sleeping with
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anything i do feel like money plays an issue and it plays a factor sorry when it comes down to men
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sleeping with anything because if a man did had earned less money i feel like he would then go and
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sleep with anything because he's getting what he's going for what he can get but once he starts earning
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the amount that he can to be able to get the type of women that he actually wants to sleep with
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he would then go and do that he would yeah that's true that's actually yeah it's very yeah that's
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true it's like they say like men are only as loyal as their options i think that's true i think that's
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that's 100 true i think to be honest i mean guys would be like you know playing the moral high card
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of like oh you know i would i would never cheat yeah yeah it's like come on come on you know um exactly
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it's an interesting point though would a guy sleep with anything i i don't i think there are
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i think it's it's probably a more nuanced answer i think there are some guys who are so thirsty that
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they that perhaps they would but at the same time there is a mechanical thing here you know like
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you said you have to sort of get aroused otherwise it's it's not happening and i mean for me personally
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um i've always had for me fairly high standards i mean high standards in the sense that if i'm not
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feeling it i'm just not going to do it do you know what i mean like and now especially i i'd rather go
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home have a cup of tea listen to lbc you know like i'm not i'm just not going to go there if i'm not
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feeling it do you know what i mean but i think equally there are guys who are quite thirsty and
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they feel they don't have options 100 do you think that go ahead god i was gonna say there's a
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difference like i always say where there's money there's females but it's money that's true yeah
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there's a difference between that's true thirsty and just having money yeah i understand so i feel like
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even when you do have money there's a particular type of girl that you go for rather than when you're
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just thirsty and what does she like what do you what does she look like a girl that they go for
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it doesn't matter everyone's a 10.
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no no everyone's a 10 but there's a different type of gal there's a different type of female
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you know where there's money and you go for any type of female it's kind of it could be high level
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it could be attractive females you know and then when you're thirsty it's just anybody and anyone
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the spectrum is so wide whereas i agree when you have money there's a particular type of girl you go
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for just there's many of them so i feel like we need to differentiate the where there's money there's
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girls or females and um and you're thirsty and you sleep with anything yeah so then again it almost
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seems like men aren't as picky as women if they'd sleep with anything no i i think they are picky
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because it depends like i said it depends on where in the spectrum you fall in oh no i would say like
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the the top guys are picky but by like you have money i feel like you you're allowed to be picky
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yeah because you have money whereas if you don't have the but it's like what percent of guys have
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money so it's like you're talking about if we talk about men in general then what type of money do you
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think because like you said the percentage was lower than when you've had other podcasts so what
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does everyone think money is depending on where whatever that's true that's a good point that's true
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but if you look at leonardo dicaprio i mean it's well documented isn't it you know the the chart of
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his um his ex-girlfriends and they're all under 26 or whatever and um he's clearly a guy with
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about as much choice as you could get in the dating market and i mean he's clearly very picky right
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you know so if you take it to that extreme um and yeah i think that when you come further down the
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scale guys are going to be less more thirsty less picky and whatever i suppose they they feel they need to
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you know to get to get some intimacy somehow but um you know and this is what i mean i think i think
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the dating marketplace is it's kind of a jungle out there really it's a very darwinian thing isn't it
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do you know what i mean um we can try and dress it up and pretend it isn't and it's all really nice
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and everything but it you know i mean it's the haves and the have-nots isn't it really what do you think
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is different about dating today than it was 10 years ago 10 years ago was a date to murray 10 years ago well
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not 10 years ago but 100 yeah so you don't think people date to marry today in this day and age no
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i feel like and whose fault is that do you think men or women i thought probably both i feel like it
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started off as um men's and then now it's on the woman woman yeah why um because men don't men always
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feel like women are trying to finesse them or you know i feel like women have had enough
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no i feel like for me it's like because women are way more accessible so men at the end of the day
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they lose interest because if that's too accessible it's like it's just like you want to be you want
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to feel like i need to you know hunt this lady that i'm really interested in you don't want to have that
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all the time that well it's almost like if men will do anything for sex and we all wait until we were
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married and we would all be married 100 yeah but you know it's the women that aren't waiting until
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they're married so once you say it's on women no well yeah i'll say it's on women now but i feel
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like it was triggered by men why was it triggered by men because didn't the sex have to like that's had
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to be because before i'd imagine like a hundred years ago it's more common to wait till you were
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married oh yes yeah so you know what i'm saying so who had to give up like who's in control of who
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has sex women not men yes true you put a naked girl in front of most guys they're gonna oh sorry
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but what's her personality like
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yeah no it's women's both i think because as many of you know i was just banned on tick tock and we are
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