JustPearlyThings - April 04, 2023


Why People get ANGRY ON ABORTION Topic

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11 minutes

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1,924

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Misogyny

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Summary

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In this episode, I speak to a group of pro-choice students at the University of Oxford about their views on abortion. We discuss the issue of abortion, the reality of it and why it should be a woman's choice.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 um okay so um do you want to do the next uh video blessing
00:00:07.380 so i'm going to try and speak to some of the students see if they want to put their views
00:00:18.840 across is anyone we're on facebook live does anyone want to say anything about why you're
00:00:22.800 covering up no can i ask why not your body your choice okay you don't have to speak but you're
00:00:36.600 in front of our display so you are live on facebook never again do you want to explain
00:00:41.600 your sign at all no do you want to engage or try and change my mind about abortion
00:00:47.140 no would you like me to see my mind changed and maybe support abortion no okay um we have got
00:00:57.960 warning graphic abortion content yep it's very graphic isn't it why do you think it's so graphic
00:01:04.620 no comment we've got our bodies our choice seen that one again
00:01:13.820 abortion should be as early as possible as late as necessary a woman's choice so what as late as 0.68
00:01:24.500 necessary is that up to best
00:01:26.080 no i don't want to engage you just want to block the signs why well i don't want to engage i don't
00:01:36.680 want to talk to you yeah is that because there's no argument for abortion
00:01:40.560 yeah so what's your fourth birth is out of oxford do you want to explain a little bit what your
00:01:52.640 assignment no no do you want to change my mind on abortion um no i don't want to no okay
00:01:59.560 was that you ruth yeah has this podcast been like orchestrated based on your guys's personal views
00:02:07.480 of interest oh she came on my show and i just thought it would be a good podcast
00:02:12.040 um why would you go why would you go to a place where you're holding your opinion on a sign and not
00:02:21.500 talk about it so that's what we find we find that we we educate on the as i said the reality of
00:02:28.260 abortion and the humanity of the child and we find that often i get that there's you know there's
00:02:33.700 some confusion is pro-choice but there's some people that are avidly pro-abortion and they're
00:02:38.320 really you know really support abortion and um often they don't they they don't have an argument
00:02:44.680 and what we'll find is they'll cover up the reality of abortion yeah when and these were oxford
00:02:49.820 university students so they're meant to be some of the you know smartest people in the world but
00:02:54.660 they wouldn't debate the issue so i think it's just quite a telling um do you have the pamphlets you
00:03:01.160 brought last time yeah oh can i see it yeah can you grab it you can take it off for a second
00:03:06.360 um because that's actually what made me want to do it was those pamphlets were crazy
00:03:10.520 um why do you think people get so heat that's it's actually like you don't know how in shock i am like
00:03:19.120 this is the most calm panel i've done this topic a couple times and like i've never had this calm of
00:03:24.360 just like someone always gets mad but why do you think people get so angry about this topic in
00:03:29.700 particular well maybe people have been through it themselves like being through abortion themselves
00:03:36.860 and you know they have maybe something like traumatic happened and i don't know i guess
00:03:43.860 what was it why are people so sensitive about yeah like talking about abortion i've just noticed um
00:03:50.920 that typically abortion is like i do a lot of controversial topics on my show but
00:03:56.680 i swear to god outside of this room it's that's always the most like heated one
00:04:01.200 an opinion on that um i feel that it's because
00:04:12.880 you're faced with the reality really um it's not nice to look at
00:04:19.340 so i feel like it's that it's that thought that out of sight out of mind
00:04:25.880 so if it's not shown then it's acceptable it's tolerated but once it's out and you see what
00:04:35.180 abortion actually is then it sparks a debate it sparks
00:04:40.040 i mean abortion protests itself really if you show the reality of it it protests itself it doesn't
00:04:46.680 you don't need to have you don't need to really say much i just can't believe this is eight weeks
00:04:53.300 if anyone wants to see like the stages of development um i'm just going to pass it around
00:04:57.440 um because that that's like mad do you guys think um that since women have the right not to be mothers
00:05:05.860 men should have the right not to be fathers yeah um so since abortion is illegal that men should be 1.00
00:05:11.300 able to sign off um so they never have to pay child support 100 percent yeah
00:05:15.340 yeah because it's their choice it's like it's like i go with the again with the abortion thing i
00:05:25.140 i i still have uh the pro-choice um answer because i still feel like we're created to have that free
00:05:32.200 will and if we decide to do like like you said you you what did you what's that quote when you lay
00:05:38.300 um you do the bed you lay in it so yeah yeah it's the same sort of thing right so i still believe
00:05:44.760 like if the man said okay i don't want to be involved then then then this is choice really
00:05:49.020 um and for the pro-choice people tell me where you think abortion should be legal on the stages of
00:05:54.960 development how many weeks is it now currently like so um in the uk it's interesting it's up to
00:06:03.740 six months but there's kids that have survived um so it's legal up to 26 weeks i think and there's
00:06:09.240 kids that have survived at 24. um
00:06:14.200 um honestly i guess it was 26 weeks and it's 26 weeks okay what do you think sorry which question
00:06:31.000 so where do you think abortion should um be legal at like at what point it has to be your choice
00:06:37.000 it has to be the choice of the person that's so if i'm enabling life so if i if i get like what
00:06:44.060 human right are you protecting you know are you protecting the human right of the person that's
00:06:48.360 actually carrying it so so i'm saying like if i wanted to get an abortion i'm gonna give birth in 0.54
00:06:54.380 three days can i because like that's illegal for a reason no no i i agree with you so i'm saying like
00:07:00.380 i think we'd have some common ground on like where it should be like at least at certain points at
00:07:05.420 eight months nine months it should be illegal so i'm saying at what point would you mark that
00:07:10.840 life is life why is it at is it 24 that it is illegal or is it 22 i know it's got 22 on this
00:07:19.920 is is 24 weeks it's 24 but it's illegal but if there's any kind of perceived abnormalities right up
00:07:26.880 until birth and so there's actually um statistics i can't remember off the top of my head where you
00:07:32.440 know with the down syndrome or even cleft lip palette i don't know what that is um they actually
00:07:36.900 do it for cleft lip yeah that's that's a perceived abnormality yeah beyond 24 weeks you can get so if
00:07:43.280 i if someone had a cleft like because that's when your when your lip is just but they can fix that yeah 1.00
00:07:48.860 yeah and so that is that in the uk and the u.s or just the uk i don't know about the u.s wow yeah so
00:07:55.860 what did they base that decision on like why have have they why why has someone in a laboratory or
00:08:03.680 some sort of assumingly scientific field decided that that is the age before like giving an opinion
00:08:10.020 on why and what i think it used to be 28 and then when because you think this it was 1967 when the
00:08:16.740 abortion act come came in and um actually when it first came in it didn't come in to to give you a
00:08:24.500 a riot you know like it's different to america where it was deemed a a riot um it was actually
00:08:29.760 for extreme situations and that's why what laura mentioned about you need to have two doctors
00:08:34.860 because there's actually to to sign off whether they think you should be able to have one and it's
00:08:39.860 under things like if you're if the um to continue with a pregnancy is going to impact your mental
00:08:45.980 health or your physical health so at what point was the mental health like disregarded as a
00:08:50.500 it's still there so most of the abortions that actually happened today by the letter of
00:08:54.420 the law in this nation are illegal or probably illegal because most people think that we have
00:08:59.100 abortion on demand but we don't yeah they're meant so there's all sorts of things whether
00:09:03.500 abortion clinics pre-sign forms and stuff like that but that thing that laura said is very true
00:09:08.380 that two doctors are meant to sign off and give you a you know a woman a kind of a consultation
00:09:13.480 to see whether they think that that there is some going to be some mental issues
00:09:18.000 so at what point is that like not an acceptable reason sorry i don't understand your question
00:09:24.380 so at what point is the psychological uh state of a human being become like uh so so if we're if
00:09:34.980 we're i think i understand your question but if we're pro-life it's consistent so it doesn't
00:09:39.960 matter whether it has a risk to the person's life carrying the life um yeah i mean i i personally
00:09:49.460 don't know enough about those situations i would say i i could be educated more on that stuff but
00:09:55.160 i i think if from what i understand there's like very few situations that that actually happens
00:10:02.520 so one situation would be for example if you heard of ectopic pregnancy yeah yeah so that's
00:10:07.520 fallopian tubes yeah so the so the kind of the embryo hasn't made it up to the to the womb to
00:10:14.820 implant in the womb and implants into the fallopian tube and that's dangerous right it's dangerous for
00:10:19.220 the woman and the child's not going to survive because it can't grow and you know and continue 1.00
00:10:24.860 to develop in the fallopian tube so what will happen is the the baby will die and the mother will die 0.93
00:10:30.420 so what they do maybe should be allowed to die no and and that and that is life-saving so the intent
00:10:36.380 of that is to save life right so it's to save life if we could well both lives but i mean sorry to
00:10:42.860 save save the mother's life sorry so in that situation you would agree that that would be
00:10:46.300 yeah and i don't it's not even considered this is it's a very different procedure so they what they
00:10:51.560 do is they go in and they cut the fallopian tube and take it out so it's not even what is it won't be in
00:10:56.400 abortion stats it doesn't classify as an abortion no because that's life-saving treatment as many of
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