JustPearlyThings - July 29, 2023


Woke Doctors SCARRED Him For Life

Hosted by
Hannah Pearl Davis
Modern Man Claimed to be FAITHFUL You Won't Believe Who She CHEATED With

Episode Stats


Length

7 minutes

Words per minute

162.46

Word count

1,241

Sentence count

93

Harmful content

Misogyny

2

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Toxicity

10

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Summary

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In this episode of Thick & Thin, we're joined by our first guest, a trans woman who had gender reassignment surgery. We talk about her experience with the procedure, how it changed her life, and how she feels about the lack of support for trans people who have similar surgeries.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 I think that for me, the reason why I kind of got political about it was the scale of how it's happening to others.
00:00:09.720 There's just a lack of care.
00:00:11.540 There's a lack of compassion.
00:00:13.180 There's no discussion.
00:00:14.620 And they just continue to get away with it.
00:00:17.000 And I think it's about time that people really had a look.
00:00:20.880 They don't shy away.
00:00:22.160 I know it's disgusting. 0.93
00:00:23.600 I know it's horrible to look at.
00:00:25.380 But, like, you need to look up these terms.
00:00:27.560 Like, search these terms that we're talking about and see what we're talking about for yourself.
00:00:33.500 Because I can tell you until I'm blue in the face.
00:00:36.280 But until people really see what's happening.
00:00:39.040 I will, because that's the, I haven't seen the female one. 0.99
00:00:43.360 But the male, like the surgery from female to male, that really stuck in my mind.
00:00:48.140 Yeah, I was just living my life on Twitter.
00:00:50.940 I was like, Elon, why would you?
00:00:53.100 I know we're uncensored, but this is a lot.
00:00:55.700 But, no, it actually, it's, like, different when you actually see it.
00:01:01.540 What did you?
00:01:02.900 First time I saw it, I just had me transfusion.
00:01:08.320 And the day I had me transfusion, I had two units of blood.
00:01:11.980 I got this big burst of energy.
00:01:14.040 And I became very aware of what was happening.
00:01:16.460 And because I was fading in and out of consciousness before.
00:01:19.180 So, and it was the day I also had, like, the packing out, which is, like, the internal bandaging that they shove in for the first five, six days.
00:01:28.100 And then it's over you to dilate with a bloody dilator.
00:01:31.560 It's really gruesome.
00:01:32.520 But, anyway, that was the first time that I saw, apart from the bandage that was now on the Burst Sutra, that I saw what it looked like standing in the mirror.
00:01:43.520 And it just kind of, it literally did look like an animal or something had taken a chunk out of it.
00:01:51.460 Like, just a bit added.
00:01:53.340 And then, you know, it just, that's how it looked. 0.94
00:01:56.540 It just looked fucking horrible. 0.60
00:01:58.360 But the first time I really saw it was, I think it was when me packing was coming out. 0.98
00:02:03.580 And the surgeon kind of wheeled over.
00:02:06.280 And he had a handheld mirror.
00:02:07.960 And they're kind of just undressing you because they just come in and change bandages.
00:02:12.640 You know, they'll tell you what they're doing.
00:02:14.060 Oh, we're just changing your bandages.
00:02:15.340 But they're doing it as they're saying it, right?
00:02:16.940 And you're just like, oh, okay.
00:02:17.880 And he just kind of shoves this mirror right in front of us, right?
00:02:23.600 Like, in the line of sight.
00:02:24.880 And I just see this. 0.99
00:02:26.660 Like, it was, you've got to keep in mind, you're bruised to fuck as well. 0.99
00:02:30.680 It is really inflamed. 0.99
00:02:32.620 And I just was like, like, gasping.
00:02:35.840 And I tried to, like, hold it in after because I realized I gasped.
00:02:40.900 And I was like, it's great.
00:02:45.380 But, you know, that's what you say.
00:02:48.540 That's what you think you should say.
00:02:51.620 What did you find out about the research?
00:02:53.660 You said it's, like, funded by, like, it's fake or what?
00:02:58.380 It's not necessarily fake.
00:03:00.560 There's a lot of flaws in the, all the long-term, like, studies.
00:03:06.600 For instance, the famous Swedish study in 2011 that came out and that got widely disputed showed that transition itself does little to improve the long-term health.
00:03:19.080 And, in fact, surgery increases suicidality as a more, like, because of the measured mortality to see what people died of.
00:03:28.860 The biggest killer of trans people, or anyone who takes hormones, by the way, is cardiovascular disease.
00:03:34.800 So, heart disease and stroke.
00:03:36.540 But that never ever gets talked about.
00:03:38.540 It's, like, overwhelmingly the biggest cause of death.
00:03:43.960 And why?
00:03:45.380 Is the drug stuff something?
00:03:48.140 What did you find out about research we were talking about?
00:03:51.540 The research is fake?
00:03:52.760 The research isn't necessarily fake.
00:03:57.760 It's flawed.
00:03:59.020 And there are papers that kind of prove the point, but they get, there's a lot of PR, PR's been, excuse me.
00:04:06.980 So, for instance, the 2011 study, the Swedish study, it's called, that had a look at the long, like, the longevity of trans people over the course of 30 years in Sweden.
00:04:21.120 And they found, you know, there was this huge mortality rate with cardiovascular disease.
00:04:28.140 There was no evidence that transition was reducing suicidality.
00:04:33.620 In fact, the study itself found that trans as a cohort, when they went through gender, sorry, when they went through the treatment, and this could just be an observation of the group anyway,
00:04:47.300 their suicidality is 17 times higher than the general population, whereas after surgery, it goes up to 19 times.
00:04:55.580 Wow.
00:04:56.020 So, it does, they found that, and that got disputed massively.
00:05:02.580 And the person who did the study had to basically come out and essentially say, no, no, it's not about that.
00:05:07.740 It's about this, that, and the other.
00:05:08.860 And, but I think the biggest, the most interesting thing of that is the cardiovascular issues that is the leading cause of death, like overwhelmingly.
00:05:20.500 And it's all to do with males, especially with, um, amenia, like low iron and, um, your blood vessels aren't able to carry as much oxygen, uh, because you have low hemoglobin levels and stuff like that.
00:05:37.360 Um, and also there's the lifestyle that comes with it because there's already a lot of self-destruction and you've got a lot of people with abuse and substances, massive, massive substance abuse, um, across the board, um, and drinking too, um, and people are generally leading, very few are leading very, very healthy, positive lifestyles.
00:06:02.560 Some are, sure, but a lot of them are not, um, and I think a little bit of that is where the overlaps of depression and autism come in because, uh, I had a friend who lived with me during lockdown and when they moved out after lockdown ended, after two years, my routine was just destroyed, like, and it took us, it's taken us about a year and a half to recover.
00:06:28.700 Like, I can't, it took us a year just to get back in the habit of making a meal and stuff like that.
00:06:33.420 And I was just totally like, you know what I mean? 0.95
00:06:35.900 And imagine that for, I feel like I've had a little bit of an advantage because I started transition at 25, 26 and I had those years, even though I was miserable as fuck, I still had those years to be like, oh, uh, I can learn how to be an adult. 0.98
00:06:52.120 At least I can learn how to take care of myself. 0.80
00:06:54.340 A lot of the younger ones don't have that, you know, there's a lot of arrested development as well too.
00:07:00.040 What are the hormones do? 0.98
00:07:01.680 Like even outside of the surgery, like what are the hormones do to you?
00:07:04.420 Oh, so I, I mentioned the stuff about testosterone and poison.
00:07:10.480 That was the, I was on something called an antiandrogen, um, a JNRH antiandrogen blocker.
00:07:18.500 It's the same stuff that they give as puberty blockers and to cancer patients.
00:07:23.440 And what that does is it stops your, uh, testes from excreting more testosterone.
00:07:31.240 It basically sends a signal to your body to say you've got enough testosterone in your body.
00:07:35.520 You don't need any more, but obviously you don't because it runs out.