JustPearlyThings - June 30, 2023


Woman On Birth Control Does This To Her Man


Episode Stats

Length

11 minutes

Words per Minute

218.07257

Word Count

2,468

Sentence Count

1

Misogynist Sentences

22

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

In this episode, we discuss the recent case of a woman who lied to her boyfriend about being on birth control and got pregnant with his kid. We discuss the implications of lying about birth control, what should happen to the father of the child, and what should be done about it.


Transcript

00:00:00.560 have any of you ever told a guy you were on birth control when you weren't
00:00:06.240 isn't that like kind of grapey
00:00:10.560 yeah do you know what i mean no yeah everyone like i think that you have to be transparent about that
00:00:17.360 have you ever heard of anyone doing that yeah yeah yeah first hand yeah yeah yeah tell me what
00:00:24.320 what did she do um yeah she she told him that she was on and she wasn't and she got what she wanted
00:00:33.120 she got pregnant off of it yeah do you do you think that in that situation since she lied that
00:00:40.960 he shouldn't have any rights to the or that he should be able to get rid of his rights to the kid
00:00:47.840 i mean no because she lied so he was he was performing off of something that you know
00:00:53.920 off of the security that she was on it and she wasn't so that kind of no but i mean so when he
00:00:59.120 has the kid or when she had i'm assuming she had the kid right so did um do you think that in that
00:01:07.120 case that he should be able to sign off all rights because he didn't want the kid to begin with i mean
00:01:12.480 when you say it like that because it's it's it's in a way where it wasn't his choice because had he
00:01:19.120 known he wouldn't have made that choice um so when you say it like that absolutely i mean rightfully
00:01:25.600 the kid's there at the end of the day so i mean whether he wants it or not unfortunately that's
00:01:30.400 his seed that's his future um but yeah it is in his hands to make that decision um but then it comes
00:01:38.240 into do you want to be a father what type of father do you want to be to that kid that you weren't ready
00:01:42.800 before but now you are a father now so yeah what do you who who who do you know that lied
00:01:50.080 oh i i know someone that got into a bad situation because they um well they didn't like their own
00:01:55.840 birth control but they lied that they were bulimic um so they didn't disclose their bulimia so they're
00:02:01.280 making themselves sick while taking birth control um which obviously makes it ill effective um and she
00:02:07.520 she did get pregnant energy keep it yeah yeah they worked things out and like they're a happy couple
00:02:14.560 now but um it was a big i live with them it was a big point of contention at the time do you do you
00:02:19.200 guys think that should be punishable as a crime i think lying to a guy about birth control definitely
00:02:26.960 a hundred percent yeah you take accountability that's so sorry i feel quite passionate yeah it's so
00:02:33.520 unfair on the man if if you lie about it like obviously if an accident happens as an accident
00:02:38.880 right it's both both parties fault but yeah if you lie about it then yeah a hundred percent if
00:02:44.960 it was like premeditated yeah exactly it's like coercion in a way it's similar to like
00:02:50.080 essay of a woman if you lie about having an scd it's i would say that's like a similar thing
00:02:54.800 but i don't think that means you should sign away all rights to the baby it's not it's not the baby's
00:02:57.760 fault you know what i mean yeah but you don't think if the woman has the right to get an
00:03:02.640 abortion he should have the right to sign off his rights no because like you don't think if the
00:03:07.200 woman has a right not to be a mother he should have the right not to be a father especially if
00:03:10.800 he was coerced into doing it no because i was like if a woman an abortion is different sorry like so if
00:03:16.560 um if a woman's great i have to say great do you think she should be able to get an abortion
00:03:21.280 yeah but i think abortion is different to when the baby is at the point of a baby in your arms i think
00:03:26.640 that that is your life responsibility and when you have sex in general you take the risk whether
00:03:31.600 someone's lied to you about the risk or not isn't that that's a terrible thing to happen
00:03:34.400 but you still take the risk of that one percent of um oh this woman could get pregnant even if you
00:03:38.800 think she is on birth but what if the woman wants to give up the kid for adoption should she have
00:03:42.480 that right uh not if the father wants to keep it no yeah if the father wants the baby the father
00:03:48.480 should be able to have full custody and the woman should pay chance for no but i'm saying i'm saying if
00:03:51.680 she wants to give up the kid for adoption she should be able to right yes but not if the father
00:03:56.880 wants yeah but so i'm saying if he didn't sign up to be a father like why should he be forced to
00:04:01.680 because isn't it like rewarding bad behavior no i think that when every single time you have every
00:04:06.720 time i have sex with my boyfriend there is a small percent chance that i could get pregnant and we both
00:04:11.840 have sex knowing that that can happen when you do it with a stranger you know that that's yeah but the
00:04:16.320 women but the women are the we're the only ones that can have all the information up front that's
00:04:19.680 because so yeah but that's that's my point my point is like there's no male birth control
00:04:24.160 no so women we we can when we have sex like we have all the information we know if we're ovulating
00:04:28.560 we know if we're going to take a plan b we know if we're on birth control where the men it's like
00:04:32.320 they they have the they have the option condom or no condom but even with like plan b that's not that
00:04:37.760 effective because if you are plan b only works to delay ovulation so if you're ovulating at the
00:04:43.360 time that you have sex yeah but it does nothing yeah but there's 41 forms of birth control
00:04:47.920 for you and you only can get pregnant like three days a month there's still people do all the time
00:04:51.920 that's why 16 year olds are pregnant you know it's never deliberate is it
00:04:58.240 sometimes but i would beg to differ but i'm saying in this case it was deliberate yeah so it's just
00:05:04.080 interesting because i i feel like if he's not able to sign off his rights when she does something wrong
00:05:09.120 like why wouldn't she just keep doing it why wouldn't women just keep doing it i just i don't think that
00:05:13.360 that's a real problem i don't think women are actually doing that oh my gosh you you haven't seen
00:05:17.120 the nba the nba issued statements telling the men to wear condoms because all these models were
00:05:23.360 lying to the men about being on birth good it's a real issue i mean you think drake wanted to get
00:05:27.600 pregnant a corn star pregnant that's like a very specific issue based on very very wealthy men like
00:05:34.080 when you have a lot of wealth and you have a lot of like fame you are obviously at more risk of people
00:05:38.480 taking you to court of people abusing you in every single way so like that's a very specific thing to
00:05:42.240 nba stars that like your average joe but it happens to a lot of men that aren't nba stars and i think
00:05:47.760 there's a lot of men that are in i'd say comfortable positions that women would want to be in that
00:05:52.880 situation with them and see an opportunity i think you know there's a lot of women out there that
00:05:57.600 sometimes even just get to a state where they become selfish because they might receive news that
00:06:03.120 they might not be able to ovulate as much in the next two years or whatever the situation may be
00:06:08.400 i think on both behalves it is kind of selfish in a sense where i think it's wrong when
00:06:12.800 a woman does that anyway because that's unfair on the child forget about even the man's rights the
00:06:17.200 rights as a child to be able to be accessible and my parents to both be accessible i think is so
00:06:22.480 important so me taking away the opportunity of my child having their father in their life before they're
00:06:28.240 even here is selfish so before we even get to a point of the man's rights what about that that that
00:06:33.920 child's rights 100 you know you said you're you said you're passionate about it why yeah i just i
00:06:42.720 just don't know do you know someone that's happened to um heard stories yeah i think it's happened to a
00:06:49.680 couple of the boys actually um but yeah it's just something that is just so unfair and i just feel that
00:06:57.600 um yeah men just literally have no right at all they have no say and if it is something that's deliberate for
00:07:03.360 me i just don't think a baby deserves to be brought up in that type of world um especially
00:07:09.360 if the father's not ready and it's coming from a lie so i think the baby so i think the dad should
00:07:15.360 have a decision on you know what happens to unfortunately the baby especially if you're both
00:07:19.760 young but the dad has had a decision to put a condom on in the first place right he made that
00:07:24.560 she could put calls on that's what i mean i mean that's gonna be pretty obvious she's gonna lie
00:07:29.840 if she's gonna lie about being on birth control then you know that does happen people do put pins
00:07:34.560 through i know it's a rarity but they steal condoms and like you know in that case though
00:07:42.960 even if like a man is coerced into um having that child i still think he's taking the risks anyway even if
00:07:50.080 he thought it was a much slimmer chance than it was um and that woman should be treated as if she'd
00:07:54.800 street but then don't you think in the case of abortion like that she took that risk like i'm
00:08:00.560 just it's just interesting because i this sounds like equality when it benefits that's not real
00:08:04.080 equality because it's like okay what do you mean by like when abortions involved so a woman has the
00:08:10.400 right not to be a mother so if i if i have an accidental pregnancy i can terminate it up to six months in the
00:08:15.840 uk but men don't have the right not to be fathers true so it's like why why do we call the man a
00:08:20.880 deadbeat dad but we don't call the woman a deadbeat mom when she gets an abortion and so i'm saying if
00:08:25.920 we really want equality like why wouldn't we make it equal where the men can sign off but i think that's
00:08:30.560 like how again we'd want an ideal world to be do you know what i mean in the sense where i would but
00:08:36.640 she's saying no fair enough but i think that's just society like that's the way society is and unfortunately
00:08:42.320 that's uh how can i put it like unfortunate on the men's behalf in the world because that's something
00:08:48.560 that they're out of control of there's a lot of things i'd say like in a relationship or in other
00:08:53.040 situations us women are out of control of and i think like what oh sometimes i think women chase
00:09:00.640 we want a man to be with us and it's not until a man decides to commit that we get that relationship
00:09:07.040 i'd say we're more prepared for them than they are so right but we can always pick who we go after
00:09:11.440 so if we go after the top 20 of men you have to compete for then then it's the balls in their
00:09:16.560 court but for the average guy there's men at tesco down the street that would date you tomorrow
00:09:20.880 that is so true but i guess so so it's really in our control because we pick who who we go after
00:09:26.640 and if you want to go after someone more competitive it's going to be harder true but
00:09:30.160 then i feel like them men sometimes take advantage the fact of the fact that they are part of that 20
00:09:35.680 and then sell women dreams instead of allowing a woman to actually make that decision for
00:09:39.360 themselves like for example you might meet a guy like you said nba player or football or whatever
00:09:43.680 he's not the guy down the road at tesco's however he could have children that no one knows about i
00:09:48.880 mean look at chloe kardashian poor her you know ready to have her next child she didn't even know
00:09:53.040 i don't have an ounce of sympathy for chloe kardashian you're telling me oh stop it she dated lamar
00:09:59.760 and she right right that was her first husband's name lamar yeah right so she dated lamar and she said
00:10:04.960 hmm nba player this ended with him in a whore house let me try another nba player and another
00:10:11.680 nba player yeah but then they do the same thing and then they're like maybe she's gonna play victim
00:10:16.480 later but then men then come off with but why are you judging me because you went with an nba player
00:10:21.440 just because i am an nba player why does it mean i'm like him so i guess you just can't win i guess
00:10:26.080 it's just the luck of the draw to be honest no i don't think it's the luck of the draw i think if you
00:10:30.480 get if you get with an nba player you're probably gonna be cheated on miracles happen but you know
00:10:35.520 you know what i just learned um there's a guy he like works um i interviewed him he makes like very
00:10:39.920 high-end suits right yeah and so he some of his clients are professional athletes and those those
00:10:45.920 men um he said he was in like box seats or whatever whatever it was the ones next to the it was ice
00:10:51.760 hockey i think i don't know what they're called but but he um he said the two of the most beautiful women
00:10:57.600 he's seen in his life are sitting by the by the box seats basically motioning to the guys that
00:11:02.720 they'll have a threesome with them these women buy hotels next to the do the court and like chase after