JustPearlyThings - April 07, 2023


Women are not GOOD LISTENERS


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8 minutes

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In this episode, we discuss whether or not women are better leaders than men when it comes to leadership and why this is a good or bad thing. We also talk about the benefits of having a female-led society and why women should be given the same opportunities as men.

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00:00:00.000 I see your logic, but where it's flawed is that,
00:00:03.480 and this is from, you can read,
00:00:05.040 you know, have you heard the book Sapiens by Yovano Harari?
00:00:07.440 This is out of Sapiens.
00:00:08.480 So in that book, he talks about why female-led societies 1.00
00:00:13.420 didn't do as well as they should have done
00:00:15.720 if your examples were correct.
00:00:17.760 And he said that when it comes to organising groups,
00:00:21.580 men are better when it comes to large scale,
00:00:23.540 whilst women are better when it comes to small. 1.00
00:00:25.020 So small social factions, where it's like mothers and the children,
00:00:30.000 when it's large scale, you need to be able to unite people.
00:00:36.320 And men are much better at providing that myth than women are. 0.99
00:00:38.500 So by that same logic, men are still better at leadership
00:00:42.380 than women will, because women are better in small scales, 1.00
00:00:44.600 not large scales.
00:00:45.100 I understand what you're saying.
00:00:46.300 One second, let me move this down.
00:00:48.580 But I feel like what you're saying applies to all genders.
00:00:52.480 So when you're with a large group of people,
00:00:55.460 you need a common myth.
00:00:56.880 And I don't think that's like,
00:00:58.000 I don't think that's dependent on gender.
00:01:00.420 And like Pearl said before,
00:01:01.620 History tells us it is, though.
00:01:02.960 Because again,
00:01:04.080 what that book depicts is that
00:01:05.660 what the best, the most optimal function in society
00:01:08.160 is what lives the tell-to-tale.
00:01:09.560 So if women were just as good at providing myth, 0.90
00:01:12.280 then there would be massive female-led societies 1.00
00:01:14.040 that had their own, let's just say,
00:01:15.920 had their own continent
00:01:16.720 that would be doing their thing,
00:01:17.880 but they don't.
00:01:18.700 And they had the opportunity to do so.
00:01:20.440 I'm quoting the same book as you.
00:01:22.360 I'm quoting the same example,
00:01:24.060 a similar example from this book.
00:01:25.440 And it says there's a cognitive dissonance
00:01:27.300 where women have the skills to lead, 1.00
00:01:30.560 but they're just not put in that leadership role.
00:01:33.100 And men have the typical still.
00:01:34.940 But then wouldn't you say they're not good at it?
00:01:37.600 I didn't say they weren't good at it.
00:01:38.900 I'm just saying that women also have the quality. 1.00
00:01:41.000 No, but I'm saying like,
00:01:42.960 okay,
00:01:44.160 I could say,
00:01:45.440 oh, I'm really good at volleyball.
00:01:47.200 But if I never played
00:01:48.440 and never did it well,
00:01:50.000 then like,
00:01:50.420 okay,
00:01:50.820 I could say redheads are better at volleyball. 1.00
00:01:53.800 But then if redheads never play volleyball 1.00
00:01:55.920 and never do it well,
00:01:57.300 you can't say redheads are better at volleyball. 1.00
00:01:59.100 So saying like women are better leaders, 1.00
00:02:00.680 but if they don't.
00:02:01.640 If you use the example,
00:02:03.500 okay,
00:02:04.400 I'm going to be good at volleyball,
00:02:07.540 but you've never played.
00:02:08.760 And I say,
00:02:09.160 but Pearl's a good athlete. 0.98
00:02:10.440 She'd probably be good at volleyball. 1.00
00:02:11.820 That's probably what I'm trying to say
00:02:13.460 is that women have the capacity 1.00
00:02:15.820 to do these things
00:02:16.720 because they have these skills
00:02:18.780 from other places.
00:02:20.180 So they have people skills.
00:02:21.340 They have listening skills.
00:02:22.460 They can be quite organized.
00:02:23.660 They have a lot of stamina for certain things.
00:02:24.760 I don't know
00:02:25.100 because I think the best leaders are better.
00:02:26.860 They're not really the best listeners.
00:02:28.460 They tell you what to do.
00:02:30.240 I think the best leader
00:02:31.440 is someone that can,
00:02:32.860 is that respected by other people
00:02:34.320 but can also understand
00:02:35.440 what needs to be done now.
00:02:36.820 They can prioritize.
00:02:37.780 This is a super chat.
00:02:38.780 It says,
00:02:39.020 the best leaders are those
00:02:40.180 who are not only good with people,
00:02:42.560 but they must be able
00:02:44.360 to have an arbitrary
00:02:46.840 or an impartial view
00:02:48.060 on any given topic in conflict
00:02:49.800 which best facilitates
00:02:51.400 the larger good.
00:02:52.280 Men are more logical
00:02:53.120 and empirical versus women.
00:02:55.640 So it's just like,
00:02:56.740 yeah.
00:02:56.940 I feel like women can prioritize 1.00
00:02:58.220 as well.
00:03:00.000 And I feel like that's a key.
00:03:01.120 Nah.
00:03:01.280 You keep feeling it.
00:03:02.060 Nah.
00:03:02.280 You keep feeling it.
00:03:03.320 I feel like,
00:03:03.900 I feel like,
00:03:04.360 I feel like,
00:03:04.800 it's all feelings.
00:03:05.220 Because it's a subjective opinion.
00:03:07.160 It's my opinion.
00:03:07.720 Well, I know,
00:03:08.200 but I just think like every,
00:03:09.700 I've always preferred like male bosses
00:03:11.400 because we get emotional.
00:03:12.540 We get in our feelings with stuff.
00:03:14.040 You know,
00:03:14.200 yeah,
00:03:14.540 women and women, 0.81
00:03:15.580 women. 0.81
00:03:16.100 Okay,
00:03:16.380 that is true.
00:03:17.160 That is true.
00:03:17.900 I don't really get on
00:03:18.700 with the women bosses. 1.00
00:03:20.020 But you know what?
00:03:20.980 When things are hard,
00:03:25.040 you want a man beside you
00:03:27.180 that can make
00:03:27.900 all the hard decisions.
00:03:29.320 Obviously,
00:03:29.820 women can as well. 1.00
00:03:31.040 Both,
00:03:31.440 both can do whatever.
00:03:32.820 It just depends on you.
00:03:33.900 But,
00:03:34.420 large scale.
00:03:35.820 Yeah.
00:03:36.400 I feel like what you're saying
00:03:37.240 is like really correlational.
00:03:38.320 But it's been studies to prove it.
00:03:40.940 They didn't do the Scandinavian study
00:03:42.560 on what women do 0.99
00:03:43.880 when given more opportunity
00:03:45.360 to pick what they want.
00:03:46.760 And it turns out that
00:03:47.360 when women are given opportunity
00:03:48.460 to become...
00:03:48.860 They don't really pick stamps.
00:03:49.740 I've seen those studies.
00:03:50.860 I'm just saying that women 1.00
00:03:51.700 have the capacity to...
00:03:52.320 They also did a TV show
00:03:55.680 where they put like 15 men
00:03:57.160 and 15 women 0.98
00:03:57.980 on like two islands
00:03:59.140 and they had to like figure out
00:04:00.180 how to survive.
00:04:01.460 And like by the first day,
00:04:02.560 like the men had figured out
00:04:03.440 how to get water,
00:04:04.140 how to hunt for food.
00:04:04.920 They'd given everybody roles
00:04:05.980 and like the women
00:04:06.840 almost died three times
00:04:08.060 and the producers
00:04:08.680 had to come in and help them.
00:04:11.220 The women are probably 1.00
00:04:12.140 just talking about
00:04:12.800 what they're going to do.
00:04:13.680 Yeah.
00:04:14.040 The men are probably just like,
00:04:15.440 right, I'm going to do this.
00:04:16.440 Stacey keeps telling me
00:04:17.580 what to do, that bitch. 1.00
00:04:19.720 No, but it shows
00:04:20.560 that the more primitive
00:04:21.740 the society,
00:04:22.820 the more gender roles 1.00
00:04:23.740 that they are.
00:04:24.860 It's easily assigned.
00:04:25.860 So the more primitive
00:04:26.420 the society,
00:04:27.140 men do this
00:04:27.720 and women do that. 1.00
00:04:28.560 It's plain and simple.
00:04:29.140 But like we're talking
00:04:29.780 about society like
00:04:30.760 you've read the book Sapiens
00:04:32.040 after the agriculture revolution.
00:04:34.120 So let's talk like
00:04:34.800 if we were hunter-gatherers
00:04:36.520 right now,
00:04:37.200 do you really think
00:04:37.940 we'd be so gender? 0.87
00:04:39.760 100%.
00:04:40.320 You really think so?
00:04:41.300 We'd go back to that
00:04:41.820 because we'd go for
00:04:42.580 what's most optimal
00:04:43.300 for survival.
00:04:44.080 And it's not for you
00:04:44.660 to go out and hunt,
00:04:45.300 it's me.
00:04:45.840 No, but like
00:04:46.360 wouldn't it be optimal
00:04:47.120 that we're both
00:04:47.760 huntering and gathering?
00:04:49.020 It's most optimal
00:04:49.740 that you're at home
00:04:50.840 pregnant with the babies
00:04:52.080 preparing the new generation
00:04:53.860 whilst I'm out there
00:04:55.360 being expendable
00:04:56.020 bringing home the bacon.
00:04:57.340 Yeah, like listen,
00:04:58.220 when I'm going to bed
00:05:00.160 my man has to go on
00:05:01.880 I would naturally expect him
00:05:03.100 to sleep on the side
00:05:03.920 of the door
00:05:04.420 and me closest to the room.
00:05:05.960 That doesn't mean
00:05:06.560 something's going to happen
00:05:07.580 or even just things like
00:05:09.300 putting me to the side
00:05:11.180 of the pavement
00:05:11.700 and him walking
00:05:13.200 on the side of the road.
00:05:14.980 It's not like
00:05:15.580 men are not important 0.99
00:05:17.980 but I don't know
00:05:18.920 as a gentleman
00:05:19.720 It's the first line
00:05:21.360 of protection.
00:05:22.120 Yeah, I would just expect
00:05:23.160 that anyway naturally
00:05:24.000 things like that
00:05:24.820 just seem appealing to me
00:05:26.100 because it's just like
00:05:26.700 if somebody breaks in
00:05:29.220 at 3am
00:05:30.040 who would naturally go
00:05:31.460 and who would
00:05:32.040 naturally cower away?
00:05:33.540 Not that it's a bad thing.
00:05:34.720 I'm going to hide in the bed
00:05:35.520 and expect a woman
00:05:36.280 to come and say
00:05:37.940 babes go get that. 1.00
00:05:38.960 But the thing is
00:05:39.580 my point is
00:05:40.480 usually
00:05:40.800 usually in a time of crisis
00:05:43.420 that's when
00:05:44.120 our natural selves
00:05:45.360 come out
00:05:45.740 because when it's
00:05:46.580 everything stable
00:05:47.180 and calm
00:05:47.580 or whatever
00:05:47.880 we can have the privilege
00:05:49.160 of saying hypothetically
00:05:50.080 I would do this
00:05:50.800 or this or this
00:05:51.200 or this.
00:05:51.480 I could take on a man
00:05:52.300 sure
00:05:52.600 and when it actually happens
00:05:53.920 but Ukraine's a perfect example 1.00
00:05:55.380 Ukraine is a perfect 1.00
00:05:56.380 we live in the modern age
00:05:57.660 people saw Ukraine
00:05:58.760 and if you saw TikTok
00:05:59.540 when that was going off
00:06:00.480 every single feminist 1.00
00:06:02.060 was like
00:06:02.500 listen
00:06:02.960 I'm in the kitchen
00:06:04.060 I do not want to go to war
00:06:05.640 literally
00:06:06.980 No, I agree with you
00:06:09.220 I would never want to
00:06:10.480 actually engage in a fight
00:06:11.860 on purpose
00:06:12.360 even if I was trained
00:06:14.060 to the top level
00:06:15.160 or martial arts
00:06:16.160 because I do train martial arts
00:06:17.200 I still wouldn't want
00:06:18.560 to pick a fight
00:06:19.240 I would still always go
00:06:20.600 because why would I choose
00:06:22.020 to put myself in danger
00:06:23.000 well that's like a martial art
00:06:24.580 like principle
00:06:25.200 wouldn't it
00:06:25.680 like to not deliberately
00:06:27.240 go out
00:06:27.800 exactly
00:06:28.340 but the average woman 1.00
00:06:29.580 just minding your own business
00:06:30.960 I wish I could find this video
00:06:32.360 but it was a video
00:06:33.020 that they showed
00:06:34.060 they just went around
00:06:35.360 recording random people
00:06:36.320 and they asked the men
00:06:37.800 they asked the women first 0.99
00:06:39.600 if you had to pick
00:06:40.620 between you
00:06:41.620 or your husband to die
00:06:42.460 who would you pick
00:06:43.300 and all the women said him
00:06:45.160 and then they asked all the men
00:06:46.660 and all the men said me
00:06:47.920 is this husband and wife?
00:06:50.300 the husband and wife
00:06:51.020 yeah
00:06:51.300 ouch
00:06:52.000 so that's just the perfect example
00:06:53.880 of society
00:06:54.380 and like how women think 1.00
00:06:55.620 because it was their
00:06:56.600 random selection
00:06:57.360 not everyone though
00:06:59.180 I mean
00:06:59.600 I don't think everyone
00:07:00.240 there's some women 1.00
00:07:00.800 that would be like
00:07:01.220 no like take me
00:07:02.520 not you
00:07:03.440 my mum would say
00:07:04.520 that my mum would say
00:07:05.520 rather her than me
00:07:06.520 yeah but you're her child 1.00
00:07:07.740 I've got any mother
00:07:08.760 but most women are saying 0.96
00:07:10.180 take the guy
00:07:11.580 I mean it's the same thing
00:07:13.260 in the Titanic
00:07:13.940 it was women and children 0.90
00:07:15.140 but I think that's like
00:07:16.480 a premise that they used
00:07:17.420 to have in the past
00:07:18.200 that they wanted to say
00:07:19.160 I think that's natural
00:07:20.960 like I think
00:07:21.660 I think men feel 0.66
00:07:23.080 the innate instinct
00:07:24.380 to protect women
00:07:25.280 the same way women 0.99
00:07:26.080 have the innate instinct
00:07:27.160 to protect children
00:07:28.180 when
00:07:28.780 why is there violence
00:07:29.860 towards women 0.70
00:07:30.560 what?
00:07:31.260 if they have an innate instinct
00:07:32.480 to protect them
00:07:32.800 it's actually
00:07:33.520 one-sided domestic abuse
00:07:36.060 is more common
00:07:36.940 for the woman
00:07:37.460 to be hitting the man
00:07:38.360 than the man
00:07:38.800 to be hitting the woman 1.00
00:07:39.540 most domestic abuse situations
00:07:41.240 they're hitting each other
00:07:42.160 so you can't
00:07:42.920 yeah like
00:07:43.240 because a lot of girls do that 1.00
00:07:44.240 they'll say
00:07:44.580 I was abused
00:07:45.240 I was hit
00:07:45.740 I was whatever
00:07:46.260 but they
00:07:47.080 wait hold on
00:07:47.720 let me finish
00:07:48.420 but they'll forget about
00:07:49.260 the part where they're
00:07:50.060 like they're hitting back
00:07:51.200 and so
00:07:52.080 like
00:07:52.720 like there is
00:07:53.720 violence against women
00:07:54.840 but it's not
00:07:55.500 it's not the norm
00:07:56.360 but doesn't that go against
00:07:58.540 like the intrinsic
00:07:59.300 thing to protect women 0.94
00:08:00.880 wouldn't that
00:08:01.640 I don't know
00:08:02.640 go against the laws
00:08:03.500 of evolution
00:08:04.060 for them to want to do that
00:08:05.240 I would say yeah
00:08:06.960 it probably does
00:08:07.840 but that's why
00:08:09.200 it's not normal
00:08:09.980 even when
00:08:11.920 even when
00:08:13.240 you know
00:08:13.600 from
00:08:14.320 holy books
00:08:16.440 they say
00:08:17.200 you know
00:08:17.560 a woman was made 0.98
00:08:18.560 from Adam's
00:08:19.800 Eve was made
00:08:20.340 from Adam's rib
00:08:21.540 that's literally
00:08:22.240 it's not literal
00:08:23.300 it literally means
00:08:24.200 a man needs to keep
00:08:26.140 a woman 0.57
00:08:26.600 under his arm
00:08:27.800 for protection
00:08:28.460 and close to his heart
00:08:29.860 like it's not literal
00:08:31.320 so this is from
00:08:32.920 way back
00:08:33.660 as many of you know
00:08:35.200 I was just banned
00:08:36.440 on TikTok
00:08:37.340 and we are demonetized
00:08:39.060 on a daily basis
00:08:40.280 on this platform
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