You Won't Believe What She Weighs Now
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In this episode, we have a special guest on the show, Penelope. Penelope is a woman who has lost over 130 pounds and lost her weight in the process of losing it. In this episode we talk about her journey from 300 pounds to a weight loss of 130 pounds.
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personally i've tried therapy and i and the first time i tried it i walked out in an anger and rage
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that i was like human and the second time i told her look it's not gonna work i don't think you
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can fix my problems you know i agree with you i've been to therapists before and i just thought
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therapy was like stupid for the most part and now i'm in school for psychology and i see the women
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that are therapists and they're nuts i would not go to therapy yeah i feel like they don't care
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they're just getting paid to do what they need to do they don't give a fuck so yeah yeah but but i
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do think there are some male therapists that are helpful i think it's mostly like male um what do
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you think about that um i've never had a male therapist and i wouldn't go to a male therapist
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because i need to i need to connect with a woman that's like do you know i mean like women no
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that's broken like me not necessarily but i feel like women connect easier that no i think i think
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women look to comfort and men look to solve problems and that's why i don't think therapy works when
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they're women most of the time there's exceptions because like men like women are just going to
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comfort you they're going to tell you what you want to hear where men will tell you how to fix it
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but the problem is like women we never want to fix it like actually fix it it's interesting yeah
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it's true i had a male therapist actually or the i had a therapist for eight years
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i'm not in therapy anymore but the first four years it was a woman and the last four years a man and i'm
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not in therapy anymore and i'm like i'm good now but that's because it was a man not a woman because
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when i was with a woman they would just sit there and soak in all my issues and all the problems and
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there was never a solve or a solution no one was trying to help me and then the trauma what's your
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like and they call everything trauma everything you know everything abuse or trauma i'm like what
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the what do you mean i don't believe in trauma i don't believe in trauma either it's a bunch of bs
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it's just so that psychologists can make money off yeah well i do i do believe in like war trauma
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like from war what do you mean like i think if a guy goes to war and sees some like sees things
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that's real trauma but the way we use it today my ex-boyfriend cheated on me
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my it's just everything's everything but can i say something don't you think there's something called
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unhealed baggage that we'd be carrying with us because we haven't overcome how we felt in the last
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relationship i think you should just get over it
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i think yeah yeah i think that we should quit whining
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our great grandmothers had to deal with it like they used to have plagues and shit
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getting cheated on like this is just the example i'm using but most of modern day problems are
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really nothing compared to like 100 200 years ago you could get the plague and like die you know
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that'd be traumatic being afraid you know and you're right you know what because i feel like
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personally i've been through so much i haven't had real therapy and i'm i'm strong i'm still going
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you know what i mean i don't really it's not affecting me maybe it is in a way but it's not
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in intervening in my life yeah strong strongly the reveling in the story is what a lot of the women
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therapists were using penelope's my daughter and they were um you know really listening to your story
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and and and giving a lot of emphasis to it like you were really overweight and the therapist were
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like no no don't don't talk about it don't don't don't try to help her lose weight and i'm like
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what do you mean like we've got to fix this problem like what's the plan it was so frustrating
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oh so they wouldn't try to solve like how big were you i was 300 pounds shut up i was 300 pounds
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you look great can we get us can we get us how did how did your life change from going from 300 pounds
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to i don't know what you are now but clearly not so i lost 130 pounds actually wow and you're tall too
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yes what are you six two no five nine and a half oh so you look you look tall as heck
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okay um but basically i was you know i think part of the problem was because i was in therapy for
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so long and i nobody told me in therapy that there was anything wrong with me and i had depression i
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had anxiety i had suicidal thoughts and i was not i didn't have a good relationship with my father at
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the time and nobody was saying oh you need to lose the weight your life will be better if you just do
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that nobody they tried to give me medication they tried to give me pills they tried to put me in
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more therapy and it wasn't until one day i looked in the mirror and i'm like i don't want to be like
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this anymore i don't want to feel like this anymore and to be honest the body positivity movement
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crushed my soul and told me oh you should be you know you're beautiful no matter what size you are
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you're beautiful no matter you know how much you weigh you're beautiful no matter what you eat you can
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eat anything you want and you're gorgeous go girl and i and i thought it was okay wow i thought it was
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okay because no one said anything and i could be sitting here if 300 pounds right now if i didn't make the
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decision to say penelope you need to get your butt off the couch and work out fix your diet fix your
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mental health fix everything and now i'm perfectly fine no meds just naturally all natural what do
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you do you think that contributes to 70 percent of women being overweight in the u.s completely i
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completely think that yeah go ahead no i just think that i think that the fact that people are obese and
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that they make all these excuses for oh i'm obese because of this i'm obese because you can lose weight
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no matter what anyone can lose weight it's just about finding the right way to do it and what do
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you think of the women that say we need like representation and magazines we need fat chicks
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on the cover victoria's secret fashion show it repulses me so it repulses me to see that because
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you've been there it does because i've been there and not only that but you are showing thousands and
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millions of women in the world that it is one okay to be unhealthy two okay to be slowly killing
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yourself and three okay to go outside and dress provocatively with your rolls out i was a plus
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size model like in the 90s you were a plus size model in the 90s yeah is there anything wrong with
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a little plus size girl yeah because what about the people that actually what about the people that
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actually can't lose weight physically they will never wait wait that's not a thing but but what about
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people that actually but they mentally can't so that for the rest of their life they're going to be that
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same size they need some they need some empowerment because otherwise they could you know commit
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suicide do you go to a basketball game and look to see like an nba game or what do you guys have
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football right football here you go to a football game here and you try to see average football players
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average like below average football players play football here when you go to a professional game
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do we see them no do you do you go there to see that oh well no so then why on the cover of magazines
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which is supposed to be the epitome of beauty do we have below average women on it right like why
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like why is that why do we need that i feel i feel ashamed i don't like it i don't want to see it i think
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you're right about the fact that they're doing it to because you know if you want to talk about the
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health system and the way the world's set up they don't want people to come out of a bce right so
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they're going to make it look like it's okay they don't want you to so so why wouldn't we have
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healthy people on the front of them i'm not saying like because they don't want that yeah yeah but
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you said we need that earlier no but i was saying that for the people that don't that actually fit i
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think in my head i'm thinking for the people that actually because a person that actually cannot
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overcome obesity and for the rest of their life to the age of 60 70 they're still going to be
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overweight those people are probably feeling yes like they're they're feeling okay they're
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they're empowered that's not a thing would you rather be empowered than commit suicide because
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people think oh look at you you're fat but when you're eat when you're overeating you're slowly
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committing suicide exactly my mother did it wow she died wow like her cause of death was severe obesity
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and then when my daughter started gaining the weight i was freaking out right and so that's why we're on
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a mission yeah but don't you think there's a certain level though obviously there's obesity
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and there's because i feel like the modeling world has always promoted unhealthy unhealthiness
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and that makes sense even the slim women slimming women was like six and like very small do you
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get what i'm saying that would they look like they weren't eating i don't think so if you look at i
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always hear that but i like i look at marilyn monroe she was healthy yeah but they're talking about
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one person there's a lot of a lot of women in the modeling world was very slim and they wouldn't eat
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or they wouldn't do something just to fit in the certain category do you get what i'm saying
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i mean there are some but i just maybe for like early 2000s but i think if you look at the last
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like 100 years i think most women on the covers were just objectively beautiful what's the average
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weight you would say uh let's see i don't know off the top of my head i mean as a ford model the girls
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who were in straight size modeling they were size four and that's because the samples are made in a size
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four and so is your four different from uk four oh yeah it is a bit yeah like more like a two
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i think it'd be more like a two the average the average woman she's gone she's okay the average
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woman is five four i'm in america and i can do uk in a second yeah five four 20 years old and weighs 170
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pounds oh what's that in stone please because the pounds yeah okay okay
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but that's overweight i would say that that average that she just quoted would be 12 stone 12 12.14 okay
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because i would think that average is between 8 to 12 i think if you're in a good in shape 12 there's
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good in shape 12 women anything above that then we're talking obesity you know what i'm saying
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i mean i think it's bmi yeah to be honest sorry uh to be honest it depends i think like around 10
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years ago it used to be way different i think now they kind of raised it you know yeah yeah i think
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10 years ago i went i don't know why it was like 65 kilos i don't know what that is sorry in in stones
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it must be like 165 in um in america 2.2 to 1. yeah and they would already say oh you should try to
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lose weight you know for your height whatever now if you look at that they're like yeah you're perfect
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you can be a model so it really changed in the last decade i would say really it did so was about
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around 10 years ago was there plus size models is that a new thing i'll be honest not really we're
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we definitely were on america's next top model i mean it wasn't that as common though but i definitely
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i i know i used to watch tyra banks anyone yeah yeah anyone there yeah but they weren't like this
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they weren't like the the the like super yeah yeah like you see today they're just kind of like
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they're like 10s you know big boned uh 10's all right 10's not big no 10's not big at all
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like this is what i'm saying for the modeling world that's big yeah but again it's like when
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you go to an nba game i want to see good basketball players like it's supposed to be the epitome of
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beauty yeah but like now we're rewarding average like i don't want to see average chicks like faces on
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the cover of magazine why don't i want to see average bodies i hear that but if she's if she's
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a good i'm not saying plus plus but she's a good size 12 with good curves in that man don't want to
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see that we don't really want to just see slim girls all the time i'll be honest i believe that
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i believe that some men like that i really do it's typically to be honest it's typically broke men
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because if you look at rich men yeah yeah if you look at like it's so catholic i'm just i don't like
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liars no offense but it's like like when you see rich men what do they have on their arms but the
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only reason why they have slim women is because the slim women are in the higher echelons of places
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where the other women no not in beauty no let's not talk about beauty only i'm talking about
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venues certain venues certain places that they get to go to certain women can't get to go there okay
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you get what i'm saying leonardo dicaprio if he wanted a big chick he couldn't find one no he can
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find one but i'm saying in certain the plate the venue the events no the events he goes from
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instagram come on they can get any chick they want yeah they can but but do you think leonardo
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just got in him bear girls dms just hollering girls in the dms i think if he wants i think
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he'll i think he'll pick like he hollered at that one chick uh the hadid who's that oh yeah yeah
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yeah gg hadid the model yeah i don't know what i say it's like if you look at the richest most
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successful men they they typically have slim women i'm saying if you're looking at the richest parts of
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events and venues mayfair whatever and in america manhattan whatever if you go to the upper echelons of
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places they've got to be you know what i'm saying do you really think that the only reason they're with
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slim beautiful women is because of the events they go no but i'm saying because of the environment that
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they're in okay i think that was because that was that is society's ideal of a beautiful woman
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that's why and so i feel like the plus model came in when people started complaining that there
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wasn't a selection of variety of different sizes why why is it that all around the world they like
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young beautiful slim women everywhere even in different societies with completely different
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cultures please please do not bring up this one fringent tribe in africa everyone brings up but
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it's like they're it's such a small percentage of the world well africa there's something no
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they're trying they bring up some tribe in africa it's this that that likes the fat women but it's
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a very very i've done this conversation but if you think i hear that but if you think about it's the
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motherland please don't be disingenuous no i'm not being but i'm all right me coming now you know deep
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down you know that men like slim women in general i'm gonna be honest i don't think they do i'm gonna be honest i
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don't i don't like and i'm gonna say this coming from being a black man okay if i'm talking about
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being a black man and from a black perspective of i feel like majority of us man like thicker women
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okay well and and and even jordan no no no but you keep talking about celebrity men that are going to be
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around higher women that have that certain women i'm from a one percent family my dad my dad my dad is
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a top one percent earner i grew up around in a wealthy neighborhood i'm telling you they do not put fat
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chicks on their arms in high class in high class society and celebrities want people with the
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option to not have a fat chick on their arm do not all right but what even like i was having a
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conversation the other day with with a woman and she was a slim woman she's from america as well so
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american um i think like atlanta or emma and she said when she was slim she was only getting approached
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by white men okay she put she put on a lot of weight no not a lot of weight but she's ticked got body
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whatever blah blah blah now she's getting approached by a lot of black men which is what
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do you get what i'm saying but i'm saying if you if you look at it on on the democrats thing which
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which successful black men that we know are dating are we only going to talk about successful men yeah
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because those are the men with options broke men don't have as many options as rich men they do not
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have as many options as rich men so if you look at the men with the most options to look okay so if
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we want to see what women want we got to look at the women with the most option who do the most beautiful
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the youngest most fertile women pick if we want to look at men what do men like we have to look
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at the men with the most options because it's not really fair to say oh i like fat chicks if i make
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you know ten dollars an hour at taco bell right like you can't you don't get no i get that but
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obviously if you're going if you're talking about celebrities celebrities are guided no i didn't but i
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didn't just say celebrities i'm from i'm my dad is in like he's a top one percent earner i grew up with
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ten siblings in a ten bedroom mansion in a community where many people made that amount of
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money yeah so so i've been around a successful wealthy man and they don't put fat chicks sometimes
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they they do get fat later but they don't appreciate that you know what i mean so yeah but i hear what
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you're saying what i'm saying the reason these men obviously going to go for similar because they're
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around that's what you being in the top one percent and being in in this neighborhood okay it allows you
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to see different things you get like if you do no but if you do have money obviously if you do have
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money a lot of people with money are in the gym they do it because they have more time on their
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hands to do other things you get what i'm saying no they have less time guaranteed you think they have
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less time people absolutely have less time totally no i don't know about that you know no no i could
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tell you a hundred percent but also i think the reason that a lot of women and are slimmer and why do you
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think more successful men want women who are slimmer is because it's healthier for them like
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their risk for getting you know diseases at an older age their risk for having pregnancy risks are
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much lower if they're not overweight so why would a man choose a woman if he wants to marry them if
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they're going to die at 50 if they're going to die at 70 if they're going to have their children's going
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to have be at risk for birth risk i mean i would never want that and i don't think i don't think men
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want that like when men are looking for wives they're not looking for children like women who are going
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to have risks and we even saw how for you how your bad habit passed on to her and that's like
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if you have a bad habit yourself you will pass it on to your kids and then it's another problem that
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your kid like because i had the same my mom used to feed me like pop tarts and stuff when i was a kid
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and i and my mom was pretty big and then she ended up like losing all the weight um and she told me
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like she literally did it for my dad um and um yeah i have a sugar addiction to this day
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you know what i mean so it's like bad habits pass from like the parents to the kids exactly and sugar is more
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addictive than cocaine yeah yeah i do miss pop tarts they make healthy pop tarts but they're really
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not healthy they're still junk food no i don't i don't like i like the cinnamon one i went in the
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complete opposite direction like total neurosis i got my bachelor's and master's degree in nutrition
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i helped thousands of people lose weight regain their health and it was almost like her rebellion
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so her choice to gain autonomy through overeating and ill health was almost you know well it was just
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so so crazy for me because i was so healthy i thought you said you were overweight as a kid
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i was but as an adult so you were super what were you doing my whole life until i was like 15 i was
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like rebelling against her i was like i'm gonna eat all the junk food so i'd go to my friend's house
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and i'd stuff my face with pizza and then their moms would call her and be like oh my gosh is your
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daughter okay she's eaten like a box of pizza and like my whole box of goldfish wow and i would just do
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that and then i'd come home and i would never like her cooking even though she's the best cook i know
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but like i wouldn't i just rebelled my whole life yeah it was terrible