Louder with Crowder - September 05, 2024


🔴 DOJ Chief Admits Trump Indictments a Politically Motivated ‘Perversion of Justice’


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In this episode, Alex Blumberg talks to Nicholas Biasi, the Chief of Public Affairs for the Department of Justice's Southern District of New York, about the Trump administration's handling of the Russia investigation and why it's a travesty of justice.

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00:00:00.000 It's a travesty of justice.
00:00:03.000 Let me to be clear about something on the outset.
00:00:33.000 The person you'll be watching today is not the bad guy here.
00:00:38.000 Unwitting whistleblower?
00:00:41.000 Yeah.
00:00:42.000 Nicholas Biasi is the Chief of Public Affairs for the Department of Justice's Southern District of New York.
00:00:50.000 Something you may be familiar with, and the most prominent federal trial court in America.
00:00:55.000 Those felonies did nothing to stop Trump from running.
00:00:59.000 No, in fact they made it more relevant.
00:01:03.000 Did that backfire?
00:01:06.000 Sure does. 0.69
00:01:08.000 The whole thing is disgusting. 0.67
00:01:10.000 Um, judges are out to get them.
00:01:12.000 That's why I like the Surgeon of Justice.
00:01:15.000 You know, it's a perversion of justice.
00:01:19.000 You know, stacking charges and like, rearranging things just to make it fit a case.
00:01:24.000 Yeah, to be honest with you, I think the case is a nonsense. 0.95
00:01:28.000 State levels are for ****. 0.95
00:01:30.000 This guy's probably going to try to lock them up. 0.66
00:01:35.000 Um...
00:01:37.000 So yeah, this guy's probably gonna try to hunt them up.
00:01:41.000 And there is gonna be... it's gonna be ugly.
00:01:43.000 They're so obsessed with getting here.
00:01:47.000 Who... who is there?
00:01:51.000 Bye.
00:01:52.000 Who is they?
00:01:53.000 Abel Beck, who I've known for 15 years.
00:01:56.000 He used to work at my office.
00:01:58.000 Before he decided to rescue Trump, did you know who he was?
00:02:03.000 Mr. Biassi is just saying the quiet part out loud.
00:02:06.000 The part that unfortunately matters.
00:02:08.000 just being the DA in New York County.
00:02:11.000 So that would be very ambitious.
00:02:13.000 Every real estate person in New York does what he did.
00:02:16.000 Nobody's ever been charged with this.
00:02:18.000 It's all him.
00:02:22.000 Mr. Biassi is just saying the quiet part out loud.
00:02:25.000 The part that unfortunately matters.
00:02:28.000 Lawfare? Yes.
00:02:31.000 Why?
00:02:31.000 Because Biase openly says so.
00:02:33.000 The ones from Alvin Bragg are a particular perversion of justice.
00:02:38.000 How do you know?
00:02:39.000 Because Biase says so, and he's known him for 15 years.
00:02:44.000 Election interference?
00:02:46.000 At this point, is there any doubt?
00:03:07.000 He's ever been charged with this.
00:03:09.000 And I told him.
00:03:11.000 And that's why I'd like to serve you with a bonus.
00:03:14.000 You know, it's a perversion of justice.
00:03:17.000 Those felonies did nothing to stop Trump from running.
00:03:20.000 No, in fact, they made him more relevant.
00:03:23.000 Did that backfire?
00:03:26.000 Sure did.
00:03:29.000 And that was, was that Alvin Bragg's choice to do that?
00:03:32.000 Why?
00:03:36.000 His album's very ambitious.
00:03:37.000 What do you mean?
00:03:40.000 He wants to be, um, you know, something.
00:03:43.000 I don't know what.
00:03:45.000 A mayor?
00:03:45.000 I'm not sure what he wants to be, but I know he's not happy just being the DA in New York County.
00:03:52.000 So this is, like, before he decided to rescue Trump, did you know who he was?
00:04:00.000 You do now.
00:04:01.000 What was the point of even doing it then?
00:04:06.000 To make him a convict.
00:04:08.000 To make him what?
00:04:10.000 A convicted felon.
00:04:11.000 What if he can still run for presidency?
00:04:16.000 Yeah, but that's his scale to see if he's a convicted felon.
00:04:19.000 I was trying to count who else, and I was like, I wonder how many are against him.
00:04:25.000 I think it's called welfare.
00:04:28.000 Yes.
00:04:28.000 That's what I've gathered from that.
00:04:31.000 That is what they call it.
00:04:32.000 So how does this...
00:04:35.000 Even happen?
00:04:35.000 How can it happen?
00:04:36.000 How can the local and state level courts try President Trump with more ease and less red tape than the federal courts?
00:04:47.000 That doesn't seem right to the uninitiated, but you are the uninitiated.
00:04:51.000 Good thing Biasi isn't. 1.00
00:04:57.000 At the federal level where I work, there is a 90-day rule where you can't make any decisions on cases that are going to affect an election. 0.89
00:05:09.000 That rule does not apply at the state level, because the state levels are for b****es. 1.00
00:05:15.000 Wild West. 1.00
00:05:16.000 They're like idiots, they don't care, they're all political. 1.00
00:05:20.000 So yeah, this guy's probably going to try to lock them up. 1.00
00:05:23.000 It's going to be ugly.
00:05:25.000 They're so obsessed with getting here.
00:05:27.000 Who is they?
00:05:28.000 It's going to be ugly.
00:05:30.000 They're so obsessed with getting you.
00:05:33.000 Who is they?
00:05:37.000 I don't know.
00:05:38.000 How do they get away with that?
00:05:40.000 It's a different system.
00:05:45.000 The state level and the federal level are like night and day.
00:05:50.000 Um...
00:05:53.000 It's hard to explain, but like, there are so many more rules.
00:06:00.000 And I know, I know what you're thinking.
00:06:02.000 Like the threshold for a crime is so much higher.
00:06:06.000 Like I said, the state level is like the wild west of law.
00:06:12.000 It's like very, um, a lack of a better term, unregulated.
00:06:21.000 Less checks and balances.
00:06:25.000 And I know what you're thinking, I thought it too. Well you're talking about one case or two or nine.
00:06:33.000 Hey, if it's local, you break the rules.
00:06:37.000 You pay the piper.
00:06:40.000 Or even if you don't, you, if you're President Trump, pay the piper.
00:06:43.000 But there are other cases in the country.
00:06:46.000 There are a lot of them.
00:06:47.000 Where there's smoke, there's fire, right?
00:06:49.000 What about the Georgia electoral interference case?
00:06:53.000 right, that Donald Trump is currently having to face under Fannie Willis, right, the Fulton County
00:06:58.000 District Attorney who was caught having an affair with the main squeeze, I mean special
00:07:08.000 prosecutor, Nathan Wade.
00:07:10.000 So is that the strategy against Trump? Just hit him with all the legal battles all across?
00:07:15.000 Like the Fannie Willis Georgia stuff. What do you think about that case?
00:07:20.000 It's a travesty of justice. To put it mildly, it's a mockery of justice. She is a joke. 1.00
00:07:31.000 Like her and her boyfriend, she was seen. The whole thing is disgusting. 0.99
00:07:38.000 I guess at this point, the only argument left is why should you trust anything Biasi has to say? 0.79
00:07:52.000 Let me make the case.
00:07:52.000 Biasi is an expert.
00:07:54.000 He has first-hand knowledge and experience.
00:07:56.000 And despite how the media is going to try and spin this, he is kind of an authoritative voice as the Chief of Public Affairs for the Department of Justice's Southern District of New York.
00:08:05.000 This man knows the players, he knows the game, and he knows that it is rigged.
00:08:12.000 Who's that?
00:08:13.000 Alvin Breck?
00:08:13.000 Alvin Breck, yeah.
00:08:14.000 Who I've known for 15 years.
00:08:16.000 He used to work at my office.
00:08:18.000 So here's us.
00:08:19.000 Here's Alvin.
00:08:20.000 You know, he's county level, and he decided to do the case.
00:08:26.000 Yeah.
00:08:26.000 And Michael Cohen is their star witness, who we prosecuted.
00:08:30.000 OK.
00:08:30.000 You know who he is?
00:08:31.000 Mm-hmm. 0.98
00:08:32.000 That guy's a f***ing sidekick. 0.96
00:08:33.000 He calls me. 0.88
00:08:36.000 What if he went with you?
00:08:38.000 He's like, he's got this thick New York accent.
00:08:41.000 He's like, aw, is this Nicholas Biagi, the Chief of Public Affairs?
00:08:44.000 And I'm like, yeah, this is me.
00:08:46.000 I'm like, this is Michael Cohen.
00:08:49.000 Why won't you guys, um, like, um, vacate my conviction?
00:08:54.000 And I'm like, uh, I can't really... I'm not authorized to speak to victims or defendants.
00:09:02.000 Which I thought was a pretty good answer, not knowing who he was calling.
00:09:07.000 And he was like, I have one of the biggest podcasts in the world.
00:09:17.000 But I kind of didn't believe him.
00:09:18.000 Yeah.
00:09:19.000 And I was like, well, you're still a defendant, and that precludes me from talking to you.
00:09:25.000 Of course.
00:09:25.000 I've known Alvin for 15 years.
00:09:27.000 Like, how well do you know him?
00:09:29.000 I used to work with him for 10 years.
00:09:30.000 You guys had dinner together and hung out?
00:09:33.000 No, we weren't best friends.
00:09:34.000 Okay.
00:09:35.000 But I mean, like, if I see him, we're like, I mean, we know each other really well, but like...
00:09:40.000 Do I respect what he's doing?
00:09:41.000 No.
00:09:41.000 Is he a nice guy?
00:09:42.000 What about, like, the other people you work with?
00:09:46.000 Do they know it's all a political perversion?
00:09:49.000 Yes.
00:09:50.000 Of course.
00:09:51.000 Oh, Trump stuff?
00:09:52.000 Yeah.
00:09:52.000 Well, we deferred on all this stuff.
00:09:54.000 What do you mean?
00:09:56.000 We investigated, um...
00:09:59.000 Again, it's important to remember that Biasi is not the bad guy here. 0.93
00:10:04.000 I know you're probably mad.
00:10:05.000 You cannot.
00:10:06.000 You cannot.
00:10:07.000 There is an Office of Legal Affairs rule that you cannot invite a city president.
00:10:10.000 It's just too disruptive for the country.
00:10:13.000 So, no givens.
00:10:16.000 But the DA did.
00:10:18.000 Again, it's important to remember that Biasi is not the bad guy here. 0.93
00:10:23.000 I know you're probably mad.
00:10:26.000 Lawfare is a thing.
00:10:30.000 And it's not only happened to Donald Trump.
00:10:32.000 It's happened to many of you watching or listening right now.
00:10:35.000 Some of you don't even know it yet.
00:10:39.000 You don't live in a free country simply because you have laws.
00:10:44.000 You only live in a free country if the laws are applied equally.
00:10:46.000 Otherwise, the law is not a tool to protect a free people.
00:10:53.000 It's used as a weapon to bludgeon. 0.83
00:10:58.000 The people who perhaps think wrongly.
00:11:00.000 What is the media going to say here?
00:11:04.000 And it's a good thing that this is part of an ongoing series.
00:11:07.000 Every single week between now and election night.
00:11:12.000 November 2024.
00:11:12.000 This is Mug Club Undercover.
00:11:14.000 The stealing of a nation.
00:11:15.000 There's more to come.
00:11:17.000 But I still expect them to play.
00:11:20.000 Play the same cards.
00:11:22.000 This person's not authoritative.
00:11:24.000 He is.
00:11:25.000 He's speaking out of turn.
00:11:27.000 He's not.
00:11:28.000 He has no first-hand knowledge.
00:11:29.000 He does.
00:11:31.000 This is selectively edited.
00:11:33.000 If you join and go to lodderworthcreditor.com slash mudclub, you can see it unedited.
00:11:38.000 There's no smoking gun there.
00:11:41.000 It's just boring.
00:11:43.000 You wanna watch them order drinks?
00:11:46.000 Some of them are awful drinks.
00:11:47.000 That's the most offensive part in all of this, but it's not my job to comment on that.
00:11:54.000 We've been working behind the scenes tirelessly and have been shocked at what we have found.
00:12:00.000 And we'll be showing it all to you every single week between now and November 5th, 2024.
00:12:07.000 The election lives from the century and that night.
00:12:13.000 Wouldn't it be nice?
00:12:15.000 If on that night, You didn't see the same tactics that you now know have been going on for the years leading up to it.
00:12:26.000 I fully expect the media to attack the messenger.
00:12:31.000 And if that does happen, I'll join Mug Club. 0.97
00:12:37.000 This is all the culmination of months of tireless work here from the Mug Club undercover unit.
00:12:45.000 Tune in tomorrow.
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