Lila Rose is a stand-up comedian, writer, and podcaster. She's also the co-founder of the Center for Medical Progress, a group dedicated to defunding Planned Parenthood. In this episode, Lila talks about the anti-choice movement, and why she thinks Planned Parenthood should be defunded.
00:01:26.000Well, because these things are coming out right now and it's obviously, I mean, you've done this for a long time with live action.
00:01:31.000And why do you think it is now that these are getting so much traction?
00:01:37.000Because I remember so many things that you've done too were incredibly horrifying.
00:01:40.000Do you think it's just that the country is tipping one direction and it's sort of resonating because these things are catching on like wildfire?
00:01:47.000Or do you think it's just that it's so horrifying it has to be acknowledged?
00:01:51.000I think it's probably through These videos directly speak to the humanity of the child.
00:01:58.000We hear about the heart, the lungs, the liver.
00:02:01.000We hear about hearts still beating when the child is born intact.
00:02:07.000It's unmistakable, undeniable when you hear about Planned Parenthood abortionists talking about how they're going to sell the parts of the babies that they've just killed.
00:02:15.000I think two other things, though, is second of all, people across the country, there's been a barrage of this now for over a dozen years, and drip, drip, drip, more and more people over time are hearing.
00:02:25.000So this is kind of like a straw that could break the camel's back.
00:02:28.000It could be the final nail in the coffin.
00:02:30.000It depends on how much we're willing to stand up for justice and for the rights of these children.
00:02:34.000And then finally, I think that new media has a huge role to play here.
00:02:39.000New media, which is now becoming the media and the power of social media to get messages out Right.
00:02:47.000Here's one thing that I think is pretty telling.
00:02:49.000I don't know that this will change a whole lot as far as the media.
00:03:18.000I think we're past the point where they'll defend it.
00:03:20.000But I think the real value here is the court of public opinion.
00:03:25.000Because you're not going to reach the elites who already are so deeply entrenched.
00:03:28.000But I think a lot of Americans who genuinely bought into the myth that Planned Parenthood provide women's health and mammograms are having their eyes open.
00:03:35.000Do you think that's an accurate read or am I off base?
00:03:40.000You're right on, Stephen, because Katie Couric and the big three mainstream media, CBS, EBC, NBC, they're dying breeds.
00:03:49.000I think there was a study done, and they gave over 99% more coverage to Cecil the Lion than they gave to the fact that in America, in our own neighborhoods, we're butchering babies and selling their parts and allowing abortion facilities at Planned Parenthood to do this.
00:04:06.000So I think that they are a dying breed and I think that they're not going to admit they're wrong and they're going to go down with that sinking ship.
00:04:15.000And I feel sorry for a lot of folks in mainstream media who are just letting this story pass them by and they refuse to have the basic intellectual honesty and I think journalistic integrity to actually report on things that impact people across the country every day.
00:04:30.000I guess I don't really have a problem with that anymore as long as they're honest about it.
00:04:33.000I've always assumed that everybody has a bias.
00:04:46.000I don't really have a problem with a Rachel Maddow, even though I think she's wrong on virtually every issue, because you know where she's coming from.
00:04:55.000The big bias here, you just hit the nail on the head when you mentioned it, and a lot of people watching this won't even really recognize what was being said there.
00:05:02.000It's not someone coming out necessarily defending Planned Parenthood.
00:05:06.000In Nightly News won't even address this.
00:05:09.000It's all over social media, but they won't even address it on Nightly News.
00:05:12.000Is that disparity, you think, growing even more in like a post-Breitbart world where, I mean, for example, Sean King right now is all over, fake black guy, which is hilarious.
00:05:22.000This story isn't funny, but nowhere on the news on television.
00:05:27.000You think that gap is going to be even wider?
00:05:30.000Yeah, the gap is growing, and I have a problem with that.
00:05:32.000I have a problem with the fact that people, even like Jimmy Kimmel, can get on his show and with millions of people watching and cry over the death of a lion a continent away that a lot of folks in the country didn't even have the same emotional reaction for.
00:05:48.000Meanwhile, there's not a single tear shed for the millions of babies slaughtered in America, and they're parts sold.
00:05:54.000Not only not a tear shed, but just like you're saying, Stephen, they're not even talking about it.
00:05:58.000I mean, they're sticking their heads in the sand.
00:06:00.000So it's not even that they're defending Planned Parenthood, although when they do even mention Planned Parenthood, they try to do it in a positive way.
00:06:07.000I mean, the Washington Post actually changed its headlines away from Planned Parenthood selling body parts to Planned Parenthood supporting fetal tissue research.
00:06:16.000So there's all of that bias happening.
00:06:18.000But I think the worst thing that's happened is that they don't talk about it.
00:06:22.000And they don't talk about it because basically the only thing to say is what's being exposed, which is that they're selling the parts of babies and they're killing and butchering them in their facilities.
00:06:32.000And to even begin to address it, they would have to say some of the truth and they don't want to tell the truth about this.
00:07:41.000We've had undercover investigators at abortion clinics across the country, and the abortionists say it's a baby, and they even talk about killing the baby.
00:07:48.000I mean, they're willing to speak bluntly and callously about chopping the baby up and tearing the baby apart and selling the baby's body parts, but the media won't even use those same terminology.
00:08:00.000All of a sudden, it becomes a fetus or tissue or The products of a pregnancy.
00:08:09.000When you want to dehumanize a group of people, you don't call them people.
00:08:13.000When you want to shut off the dignity of people that you don't want to respect, you try to marginalize them and dehumanize them in the way you even talk about them.
00:08:22.000I mean, in Nazi Germany, they called exterminating the Jews the Jewish question or the Jewish solution to the Jewish problem.
00:08:29.000They didn't even want to talk about, of course, people and ovens and the slaughter of those in the concentration camps.
00:08:35.000They're not going to in any way use any of that language.
00:09:49.000There's actually five different federal laws and regulations that are being violated.
00:09:56.000And the top three, because it could take forever to explain all of them, but the top three is that Planned Parenthood is selling and profiting from baby parts.
00:10:02.000And it's proved by the conversations you hear from top abortionists in these videos.
00:10:06.000It's proved by the fact that the companies that they do business with, like Stem Express in California, actually markets in public advertisements that are now open to the public on the Center for Medical Progress's website.
00:10:18.000That there's financial benefits and improvements for the clinic.
00:10:22.000So they talk about doing better than breaking even.
00:10:26.000Number two, they talk and admit to manipulating the abortion procedure at Planned Parenthood when they're delivering these babies and trying to sell their parts so that they deliver the baby intact so they have a better, you know, We're good to
00:11:02.000So in order to ultimately have basically a live specimen once the baby's born so that it's fully intact and it's easier to harvest the parts, that's partial birth abortion, which has been federally banned.
00:11:15.000So those are just three examples of federal statutes being broken.
00:11:18.000Except that our president was a big fan of that when he was in Illinois.
00:12:14.000I do know that a lot of people, including, you know, producer Jared here, you feel somewhat helpless because it's this gargantuan sort of organization.
00:12:23.000Is there anything else anyone can do if they want to go out, you know, and save babies, to put it bluntly?
00:13:02.000Go out there and protest what contributes to, I don't know, 50% of their GDP, because everyone needs a cause, and you can choose human life or soulless man-eating killers.