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00:01:11.860 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

00:01:19.240 Newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

00:01:23.780 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:01:31.460 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely sick.

00:01:38.080 Oh yeah, dude.

00:01:39.320 There's some Nephilim shit.

00:01:40.840 It's like we all know what's going down.

00:01:43.160 We know what's saying to what happened to the home of the brave.

00:01:46.320 These motherfuckers are controlling us now.

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00:01:57.660 We need to be ready to raise up.

00:01:59.500 Welcome to the end of day.

00:02:01.160 Everybody is slaves.

00:02:02.680 Only some are aware that the government releases.

00:02:06.400 Okay, are we allowed to say racial slurs?

00:02:08.480 Say whatever the fuck you want.

00:02:13.840 Hello and welcome to the show.

00:02:16.780 This is the Cult of Conspiracy.

00:02:19.540 And my name's Jonathan.

00:02:21.000 I'm Jacob.

00:02:21.440 And we have some of the most dangerous retards to ever get on the internet.

00:02:26.840 Welcome to the show.

00:02:28.100 Top Lobster and Raven from the Nephilim Death Squad.

00:02:32.340 Thanks for having us, guys.

00:02:33.760 Very happy to be here.

00:02:35.600 Yes, in fact, very dangerous.

00:02:37.200 Very retarded.

00:02:37.900 We are, I guess, the host of Nephilim Death Squad, which is...

00:02:42.100 I guess.

00:02:42.940 I guess, yeah.

00:02:43.860 We do something.

00:02:45.960 I don't know what we do, really.

00:02:47.460 But, no, we are the host of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:02:49.820 You can find us everywhere, except for YouTube at the moment, because we've been banned.

00:02:54.240 That was a nice little Christmas, you know, morning surprise for us.

00:02:58.580 We woke up yesterday, and we had a guest on that dared to talk about the potential benefits of alkaline water.

00:03:05.140 Not to be discussed on YouTube.

00:03:06.660 Of all things.

00:03:07.780 Of all things.

00:03:08.920 Everything that we say.

00:03:10.160 Like, I mean, it was like, I was like, check out that bookmark, David.

00:03:13.180 Like, what did they timestamp?

00:03:14.480 And he goes, it's like, it's alkaline water.

00:03:16.760 And basically, all our guests said was like, yeah, it's pretty good.

00:03:21.320 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:03:22.260 Time out, time out, time out.

00:03:23.060 There was no, like, racial epithets being used.

00:03:26.820 Y'all didn't say the Jews were in charge of the alkaline.

00:03:29.140 Was any of that being used, or was it just, like, the fact that y'all mentioned alkaline water, bro?

00:03:33.960 We have an episode with Dustin Nemos on YouTube named The Final Solution, where all he does is talk about Jews.

00:03:41.400 And we let him go.

00:03:42.180 We're like, yo, cook, bro.

00:03:43.360 It's still up there.

00:03:44.360 This one, they were like, alkaline water?

00:03:46.260 That's a step too far.

00:03:47.600 Yeah.

00:03:47.980 You know what it is, guys?

00:03:48.800 It's our mutual homie, Matthew Reif, not the comedian, the actual based mad scientist.

00:03:55.460 Super fucking based, by the way.

00:03:57.020 I love that guy.

00:03:57.640 He's on the show the other day.

00:03:58.600 And all it is, is, you know, somebody in the comments said, hey, is there any benefits to drinking alkaline water?

00:04:03.120 And more or less, Matt said, I think there could be.

00:04:07.420 Yeah, he's like, he doesn't even, doesn't even sell a product for it.

00:04:10.060 He's like, actually, I bought a bunch.

00:04:11.600 I don't even sell them.

00:04:12.540 I'm kind of giving them away.

00:04:14.140 And it just turns out YouTube was like, I can't believe he said that.

00:04:17.160 Of all the other things we said, we denied the election, the Holocaust.

00:04:20.580 We denied the assassination attempt of Donald Trump.

00:04:24.040 It doesn't matter.

00:04:24.920 The list goes on and on.

00:04:25.940 And apparently, no trespassing is grand enough until you have Matt Reif on the show.

00:04:31.700 And so, yeah, don't support us on YouTube.

00:04:34.180 If you guys want to come and check out the content, go and find us on Rumble or virtually everywhere else for your audio feeds.

00:04:41.340 You know, what's funny is, is that it was like a year or two ago, I think that Gwyneth Paltrow, I think she was talking about the benefits of alkaline water.

00:04:48.960 And as she was saying that, she was squeezing a lime into it.

00:04:54.140 And it's like, killed it all.

00:04:56.040 You fucking idiot.

00:04:57.240 Is that real?

00:04:57.660 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:58.860 So, all right, Gwyneth, I don't know if you ever took second grade science, but there's a thing called a pH scale.

00:05:05.200 You adding acid to a alkaline substance makes it a neutral, a.k.a. basic fucking water, you stupid cunt.

00:05:13.260 Isn't that the lady with the vagina candles?

00:05:15.820 Yes.

00:05:16.000 Yes.

00:05:16.500 Yes.

00:05:17.520 She's a genius.

00:05:18.200 Pepper talks about eating placenta.

00:05:20.660 Yes, it's Pepper.

00:05:21.460 And she talks about eating placenta and also, I believe, putting potentially period menstrual blood on your face.

00:05:28.680 I think that's one of her jammies.

00:05:29.760 Where are you guys at with piss?

00:05:32.840 In what regard?

00:05:34.120 Drinking it, putting it on your face.

00:05:36.900 I personally piss on my feet every time I'm in the shower.

00:05:40.060 And that's because in the Marines, they taught us that's how you kill athletes foot.

00:05:43.020 Right.

00:05:43.220 So that's number one.

00:05:44.660 Number two.

00:05:46.380 Yes, there's people that are into a lot of weird shit, kinks and things like that.

00:05:50.120 Look, I'm not going to yuck someone's yum.

00:05:52.200 I will say I draw the line.

00:05:53.640 It's scat.

00:05:54.600 Yo, when shit or puke makes its way into the bedroom, I'm fucking done.

00:05:58.140 And we're I'd rather die.

00:05:59.880 But that's just me.

00:06:00.400 But you're open to somebody golden showering you.

00:06:03.740 I guess I've heard that.

00:06:04.680 For the health benefits, Jonathan.

00:06:06.080 Oh, OK.

00:06:06.740 Well, as long as it's for health, then I guess it's OK.

00:06:09.780 We had a guy on recently.

00:06:10.880 I'll say that, though, the menstrual blood.

00:06:11.640 I've heard all kinds of stuff with that, too.

00:06:13.340 Placenta.

00:06:13.960 A lot of women who have babies, they'll make like tinctures with their placenta.

00:06:17.000 And it helps with the postpartum depression and stuff.

00:06:20.260 Like, I'm a dude.

00:06:21.600 I have no dog in that fight.

00:06:23.340 If a chick wants to cannibalize a section of her own anatomy like that is between her

00:06:27.680 and God, I might find it weird.

00:06:30.040 But I'm also a dude.

00:06:31.140 Let me tell you guys a quick story, because now you're bringing up a lot of topics.

00:06:34.020 We're talking about how bad the day Christmas was yesterday.

00:06:36.220 We get a second strike on YouTube, two weeks suspended.

00:06:39.200 So we can't post there.

00:06:40.700 We don't even know if we'll continue on top of that.

00:06:43.560 So I'm walking around.

00:06:44.100 I'm like, just punching this guy.

00:06:46.160 And I'm walking outside.

00:06:47.320 And my wife's like, get the dog.

00:06:48.900 So I look at the dog.

00:06:49.800 And he's got a little string out of his mouth.

00:06:51.520 And he's.

00:06:51.840 Oh, no.

00:06:52.120 And she's like, take it out of his mouth.

00:06:53.560 I was like, what is it?

00:06:54.140 So I go and I go to grab it, swallows it.

00:06:56.340 I'm like, I don't know what that was.

00:06:57.540 We go inside, look in the bathroom here.

00:06:59.480 We had a party the day before.

00:07:00.740 Somebody must have been on there.

00:07:04.500 My dog goes in.

00:07:06.180 He goes, knocks the garbage can.

00:07:07.220 There's blood everywhere.

00:07:08.000 I'm looking at just blood on the floor, rags.

00:07:11.040 He ate the tampon.

00:07:12.180 He was chewing it.

00:07:14.320 So I immediately Google it.

00:07:16.060 I'm like, what happens if dog eats tampon?

00:07:18.080 I was like, he's going to die.

00:07:19.120 You need to do something.

00:07:20.600 And it's Christmas Day.

00:07:21.420 I'm not bringing him to the doctor.

00:07:22.300 What kind of dog?

00:07:23.500 He's a puppy, a border cow.

00:07:25.420 Oh, yeah.

00:07:25.940 He's small.

00:07:26.860 That's going to get hung up.

00:07:27.460 But the problem is now he's got a taste for blood.

00:07:29.460 And once that starts, man, once it pops, the fun don't stop.

00:07:31.900 So I would just say keep an eye on it.

00:07:33.600 I'm not bringing my kid around anymore.

00:07:34.700 I'd assume you guys are in the science section on your podcast, right?

00:07:38.080 Semi.

00:07:38.900 Okay.

00:07:39.240 Yeah.

00:07:39.380 This is where we had to go.

00:07:40.320 We actually cracked.

00:07:41.500 Well, we'll talk about the comedy thing.

00:07:42.980 But so this is science.

00:07:45.540 Hydrogen peroxide, 3%.

00:07:46.700 You can give your dog per five pounds, five milliliters.

00:07:49.580 I gave him that.

00:07:50.140 Threw it up.

00:07:50.880 Nicey, nice.

00:07:51.920 Nice little tampon.

00:07:53.100 There was a there's a story from menstruation and dogs.

00:07:56.700 Dude, I tell you what.

00:07:57.480 Because an English Mastiff, she eats whatever and she will shit it out.

00:08:01.040 Like there's nothing getting hung up.

00:08:02.720 You know what I mean?

00:08:03.060 But for a dog that size, yeah, you absolutely had to hit that hydrogen peroxide.

00:08:06.680 That's what I was going to say.

00:08:07.660 My dog, he's he's part boxer, part wiener.

00:08:10.480 So he has like the long wiener body and then the boxer head, which is very strange looking.

00:08:14.680 But anyway, he is very cute as well.

00:08:18.060 So my I got him off of my sister.

00:08:20.140 My sister had an accidental, you know, breed of puppies, obviously a boxer and a wiener dog.

00:08:26.000 Um, but, uh, I guess he was so retarded whenever he was a little puppy that they literally would

00:08:32.060 call him helmet.

00:08:33.300 And, uh, and that's really why I wanted him because I like just fucking dumb dogs.

00:08:38.060 It's just cute to me.

00:08:39.360 Um, and so anyway, we ended up bringing him home and dude, I can't tell you how many times.

00:08:44.140 So I have a two year old baby.

00:08:45.520 Like, I mean, he's coming out of his baby stage, but he's still wearing diapers and shit

00:08:49.260 like that.

00:08:49.620 Right.

00:08:50.200 Well, he has, dude, I can't tell you how many times he's eaten shitty wipes.

00:08:54.960 And, and just shits them out.

00:08:56.860 Just shits them out.

00:08:57.600 Like it's no big deal.

00:08:58.920 Dude, boxers are known for eating like shit.

00:09:01.520 They'll eat whatever.

00:09:02.520 Yeah.

00:09:02.740 I have a cat and we feed you exclusively menstrual blood.

00:09:07.560 I hate your cat, dude.

00:09:08.980 I hate, I hate your cat more than you hate my dog.

00:09:11.020 But dogs do like to eat like literal shit.

00:09:13.500 Garbage.

00:09:13.940 They put themselves in it.

00:09:14.980 I don't know what this show's about.

00:09:17.000 Well, as we're talking about that, we were talking about Christmas, right?

00:09:20.020 And y'all had kind of a bad Christmas to start, but then it sounded like it kind of turned

00:09:24.160 into a, a very Merry Christmas for y'all at the expense of a, uh, what would you call

00:09:29.780 him?

00:09:29.920 B tier?

00:09:31.000 Uh, C tier YouTuber.

00:09:32.740 I wouldn't, I don't know if I'd call him A tier anymore.

00:09:34.700 He may have been somewhere at the top a while ago, but he kind of fell off.

00:09:37.900 Depends monetarily.

00:09:39.060 Tim Pool, right?

00:09:40.120 Yeah.

00:09:40.420 Tim Pool.

00:09:40.940 I would say monetarily, uh, A tier, but, uh, culturally C tier, probably C tier, maybe

00:09:46.220 D tier.

00:09:47.000 Um, but there's still hope for him.

00:09:48.280 No, it was a little bit of a Christmas miracle.

00:09:50.220 Yeah.

00:09:50.560 Midway through the day.

00:09:51.800 Um, I guess as the festivities wound down, Top Lobster decided that it was, uh, Tim Pool.

00:09:58.800 Yeah.

00:09:59.200 It's time to poke at Tim Pool, dude.

00:10:00.680 And he took the bait and he bit hard and then he got ratioed into oblivion, not just by us,

00:10:06.000 but by let's set the table.

00:10:07.400 Yes.

00:10:07.800 Cause I think this, this might be interesting for you guys to, that sounded like y'all just

00:10:11.360 decided fuck Tim Pool this morning.

00:10:13.160 Like, no, no, no, no.

00:10:13.700 There had to be a little bit of a, uh, you know, it's like, I mean, sometimes I do, but

00:10:17.340 not, not, I was like, this is the, you know, the birth of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.

00:10:21.480 If you believe in that, or if you think Alentezero came in, there's a whole thing.

00:10:24.860 Um, so, uh, it starts off with the Babylon Bee, right.

00:10:31.000 Yeah.

00:10:31.520 Who's a Christian organization, but also a right wing organization.

00:10:35.900 But the more I pay attention to them, the more I'm like, Oh no, you guys are like pseudo

00:10:39.920 Christian, pseudo right wing.

00:10:41.340 You do a lot of like feigning that you are, but then sliding over to this side.

00:10:46.400 And I'm like, I don't like that.

00:10:47.180 It's very subversive.

00:10:48.400 Yeah.

00:10:48.680 And, uh, so they're taking a crowd.

00:10:50.620 It's very click baity.

00:10:51.760 Yeah.

00:10:52.100 Yes.

00:10:52.380 Yeah, sure.

00:10:53.040 I mean, it's what, it's what I'm like, uh, not me specifically, but people who are like

00:10:57.280 talking about the JQ stuff.

00:10:59.020 It's what they're accused of.

00:11:00.140 Like, Oh, you guys are doing it for clicks.

00:11:01.320 It's like, nah, you're kind of doing stuff on your end for clicks or because you're controlled.

00:11:05.580 So, uh, I like to call them out.

00:11:07.800 And, uh, here we have Tim pool who is running cover for them in a tweet while he's in the

00:11:15.240 middle of a sale from selling his company to possibly the daily wire, which I'm not sure

00:11:19.300 that that's happening, but there's been talks.

00:11:21.000 So I'm like, Oh, you, uh, you know, you are running.

00:11:25.020 It's not that he's running cover for Israel.

00:11:27.140 It's that like when he has somebody on his show, that's talking about this side, like

00:11:31.760 the other side of that war.

00:11:32.980 He literally yells at them and shouts them down.

00:11:35.840 I don't know if you guys ever seen that.

00:11:37.560 I mean, the man literally yells at his guests, like screams at them and it's like turns red.

00:11:42.500 Yeah.

00:11:42.640 I don't like the way, I don't like the way he talks to his guests like that, dude.

00:11:45.920 It's like, you gotta, you're supposed to have at least some level of respect for the company

00:11:50.260 that you're having around, dude.

00:11:51.500 You know?

00:11:52.460 Yeah.

00:11:52.760 He doesn't.

00:11:53.240 It's it.

00:11:53.720 This is why, this is what I've been, I was saying like before the show, I went on and

00:11:57.520 the level of joy that was in that place at first of it was cold, but the level of joy,

00:12:01.880 everyone was kind of like scared fumbling around like Tim's upstairs.

00:12:04.860 He's mad today for whatever fucking reason.

00:12:07.180 And I was like, this is, yeah, this is what you guys do.

00:12:10.100 Like imagine you're, you're able to do your dream job, which is this sitting here talking

00:12:14.020 on a microphone, but you're doing it.

00:12:15.980 IRL you're flying the people out, talking to them face to face.

00:12:18.740 It's a fucking dream.

00:12:20.120 You're miserable doing it.

00:12:21.560 And it's like, I get it.

00:12:23.440 But I think the reason he's miserable is because he's not really controlling what he's

00:12:27.920 doing.

00:12:28.280 Someone's telling him what to do.

00:12:29.320 And I would be miserable too.

00:12:30.700 If I'm a creative, I want it to create and someone's telling me how to do it.

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00:13:14.280 Hashtag make a play.

00:13:16.800 And he's like, here, just take money.

00:13:18.440 Just continue to make this show boring and bad.

00:13:20.720 I'd be a little bit upset.

00:13:21.600 And that's what it seems like he's doing.

00:13:24.980 So, yeah, where was I?

00:13:26.820 Whatever.

00:13:27.300 It got so bad to the point to where, like, y'all didn't just, like, talk shit.

00:13:32.180 Pretty much the internet came to life.

00:13:34.740 And I'm not saying fully doxed him, but I would say uncovered some of the truth of his

00:13:41.340 standings.

00:13:42.340 Yeah, I mean, look, by the end of the night, Owen Benjamin decided to wake up from his

00:13:46.460 hibernation and start just tearing apart Tim Pool as well.

00:13:50.040 Jake Shields as well.

00:13:51.180 I mean, yeah, MMA fighter, Jake Shields, Owen Benjamin are just so I was like, oh, this

00:13:55.500 is a free for all.

00:13:56.200 I just backed up.

00:13:56.920 I was like, my bad.

00:13:57.760 I didn't want to, like, hurt you.

00:13:59.540 I didn't even want to hurt you.

00:14:00.560 This is how the conversation went.

00:14:02.220 I just said, damn, Tim, you're already running already on the Daily Wire payroll because he's

00:14:07.960 running cover for a tweet that the Babylon Bee made, which is basically anti they're making

00:14:13.520 fun of Christmas, which is like, I get that you're doing this comedy thing, but they do

00:14:17.080 it real slick like like they they kind of like play both sides of the fence.

00:14:21.460 But I think you mean it.

00:14:22.780 I don't think this is a joke.

00:14:23.760 And I do a lot of jokes.

00:14:25.060 But when somebody means it, I'm like, hmm, I don't like that.

00:14:27.740 I was mean spirited.

00:14:28.820 They did that.

00:14:29.780 Tim Pool ran cover for them.

00:14:30.900 So I said, are you already on the Daily Wire payroll?

00:14:33.680 Like they're paying you to do this.

00:14:35.280 And he answers me.

00:14:36.320 Big mistake.

00:14:37.040 Never answer.

00:14:38.520 If Top Lobster is there and I'm clear, I'm feeding you clear bait.

00:14:41.740 Don't answer me because it's just not going to go good.

00:14:44.220 So he says, what does Santa and Krampus have to do with the Daily Wire?

00:14:48.320 And I just said, just just keep running cover, Tim.

00:14:51.160 And this is when he loses it.

00:14:52.820 He just goes, you're retarded.

00:14:55.180 And I'm like, oh, now I have him on the hook.

00:14:57.700 So I correct him.

00:14:58.840 I go, why?

00:14:59.460 Oh, you are with the asterisk, which makes no sense.

00:15:03.240 He spirals further.

00:15:05.280 He goes, oh, no.

00:15:08.900 You reverse grammar Nazi to him?

00:15:10.660 Yeah, reverse grammar Nazi to him the wrong way.

00:15:12.760 He's kind of pretentious.

00:15:13.780 So like he's going to take that and just fucking have an autistic screech about it.

00:15:17.240 Well, that's what he suddenly thinks he actually stumbled upon somebody who mistakenly.

00:15:21.660 And that's that's I mean, a huge lack of, you know, sight on his behalf.

00:15:26.440 I don't mean to brag, but there's a reason why I have so many followers on Twitter.

00:15:30.480 And there's a reason why so many people have interacted with me in this way.

00:15:33.820 Like the people that get it, get it.

00:15:35.540 Owen Benjamin followed me because of the Twitter and then came on our show, Tower Gang, I don't

00:15:40.580 know, like five fucking times because he's like, oh, yeah, these guys get it.

00:15:44.020 Same thing with Sam Tripoli.

00:15:45.500 So this was like just verbal jujitsu.

00:15:47.460 And I'm like, let's see what he does.

00:15:49.740 All of his fans don't get it.

00:15:51.300 So they immediately start attacking my spelling.

00:15:53.440 And I'm like, perfect.

00:15:54.160 You guys are midwits.

00:15:54.980 It's apostrophe R.E.

00:15:56.820 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:15:57.780 It's like a job, guys.

00:15:58.840 That's that's like the test of have you ever heard of have you eaten breakfast this morning?

00:16:03.340 How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?

00:16:05.980 And the low IQ person says, but I did eat breakfast.

00:16:08.840 And then you go, well, how would you feel if you didn't?

00:16:11.400 And they just continue in the loop because they can't understand how they would.

00:16:14.560 Right.

00:16:15.080 They're right.

00:16:15.520 Right.

00:16:15.560 They can't entertain hypotheticals.

00:16:17.400 Right.

00:16:17.700 Yeah.

00:16:17.900 So this is what I'm presenting to the audience.

00:16:19.680 They fail miserably.

00:16:21.200 Tim gets really angry and then he responds with a threat.

00:16:23.940 And he says, is your intention to destroy all opportunities for yourself so that when

00:16:28.780 people start avoiding you, you can just blame the Jews?

00:16:32.080 Honestly, right here, top, what you said was it was it was beautiful.

00:16:35.500 It's one of the one of your better moments on Twitter, I thought.

00:16:38.800 Yeah.

00:16:39.020 So I'm like, is that a threat, Tim?

00:16:40.500 Because in this line of business there, they can like black blacklist you or they think

00:16:46.420 that they can.

00:16:47.480 So I just said, is that a threat, Tim?

00:16:49.440 Oh, let me go back here.

00:16:50.560 And I said, why do you think you or your ilk have anything to offer me besides a plane

00:16:54.540 ticket and a boring experience?

00:16:56.420 And from there, it's just like gone out of control.

00:16:59.700 Yeah, because this is a guy that I've sat down face to face and talk with, but he treated

00:17:03.360 me like garbage.

00:17:04.620 Yeah.

00:17:04.820 So I'm like, well, here we are now years later and I'm just calling you out on playing

00:17:09.940 your role in whatever culture war you think you're a part of.

00:17:12.820 And it didn't go good for him.

00:17:14.600 People are just kept he just kept like responding.

00:17:17.220 And it was weird because it was like, you just kept getting, you know, uh, the shit

00:17:20.560 slapped at you over and over again.

00:17:22.220 And he just keeps insisting on interacting with, with top, with me, with tower gang, you

00:17:28.520 know, with all these different people who just keep bodying him.

00:17:30.800 It was, it was weird.

00:17:32.020 He just can't stay away, dude.

00:17:33.120 He's like a glutton for punishment.

00:17:34.480 Either that or y'all are actually helping his statistics.

00:17:38.520 Very well.

00:17:39.200 Yeah.

00:17:39.360 He doesn't need our, no, we're not helping his metrics.

00:17:41.640 I mean, this guy, if you look at his, if you're talking about like the pay on Twitter

00:17:45.840 for engagement.

00:17:46.960 No, I'm saying making him relevant.

00:17:49.480 Yeah.

00:17:49.980 I mean, he's part of a cultural conversation right now just because of the, uh, the daily

00:17:53.940 wire thing.

00:17:54.500 But I, you know what we kind of were for him was like, you know, the ghost of Christmas

00:17:59.280 future.

00:18:00.340 Like there's all these other ghosts in the Christmas Carol movie.

00:18:03.280 And then there's the really scary one, which is the ghost of Christmas future.

00:18:07.320 Essentially that was us.

00:18:08.480 We were haunting Tim and he was able to, I think, look down the line and realize that

00:18:13.860 the cultural ball was getting ripped out of his hands and it was being done by rather

00:18:19.260 despicable retards.

00:18:20.700 And I think he could kind of, you know, it's a good, it's a good thing.

00:18:24.840 It's a healthy thing.

00:18:25.540 I don't, again, I don't hate Tim pool.

00:18:26.780 I think that he's a little egotistical, but who isn't?

00:18:29.500 Um, look, I think there's probably some, there's probably some like company lines that he can't

00:18:34.920 cross, especially if he is about to go onto the daily wire.

00:18:38.000 So it's kind of like unfair because he can't say certain things.

00:18:42.860 Maybe he can't say what he actually wants to say.

00:18:44.780 And you guys are just having that fucking time of your lives going absolutely insane

00:18:49.820 with saying whatever you want.

00:18:51.220 So I can imagine how that could turn you into an old frustrated man.

00:18:54.920 You know what I mean?

00:18:55.740 Well, let's put on the conspiracy theory hat.

00:18:57.580 Wait, David, imagine this though.

00:18:59.000 I'll just reread that tweet again.

00:19:00.340 Cause it's, it's, it's at the crux of, I think what everybody here does and why people

00:19:04.020 listen in general, the, is the intention to destroy all opportunities for yourself so

00:19:09.680 that when people start avoiding you, you can blame the Jews is what he's telling me.

00:19:13.720 And it's a straw man, of course, but it's an admission where it's like, ah, you've gotten

00:19:18.440 like, like, look, we have a microphone and an ability to speak into the ether and people

00:19:23.460 will listen.

00:19:23.940 And possibly if you're speaking, uh, you know, well enough, let's just say that's a

00:19:28.380 good word to use and you're no longer able to do that because you're talking about your

00:19:33.880 connections.

00:19:34.460 You're talking about being, I don't give a fuck if you remove me from society.

00:19:37.900 I used to work from, I I've been removed from society a bunch of times.

00:19:41.200 I used to work for Odyssey.

00:19:42.260 I got fired for liking Jordan Peterson with my name.

00:19:45.660 Okay.

00:19:45.920 And this was a free speech company.

00:19:47.520 This is not, there's nothing to gain from other people.

00:19:50.740 It's about me.

00:19:51.620 Like if I can build something myself, people will follow.

00:19:54.360 And I think it's pretty much been proven here, but you know, you can go down that path.

00:19:58.260 You can get millions of shekels or whatever, uh, federal reserve notes.

00:20:01.740 It doesn't quite matter because you can't do what you want to do.

00:20:04.840 It's, it's really sad.

00:20:06.240 I think it's indicative too, of something that's changing.

00:20:08.260 I'd like to get, um, you know, uh, your, your opinions on this.

00:20:12.380 It feels like we're at the cusp of a, of a baton pass in a big way, uh, from these, you

00:20:19.020 know, we, we saw it happen with legacy media.

00:20:21.020 And then the baton was passed to like these big talking heads and alternative media spaces.

00:20:25.040 And now even still, because the world has disseminated into such a level of madness that

00:20:30.300 the mainstream media narrative is certainly not cutting it.

00:20:33.720 And even alternative media's narrative isn't cutting it, or at least the ones that we had

00:20:36.980 previously.

00:20:37.520 And so it feels like all of them are swayed.

00:20:39.540 That alternative media is it's, but they're very open about it, right?

00:20:43.160 Like for instance, on this show, I would consider us alternative media in a, whatever we have

00:20:49.120 a conservative leaning, but we're very open about that.

00:20:52.320 We're not diehard Trumpsters.

00:20:54.440 We don't call him the savior by any means, but like when somebody listens to this show,

00:20:58.080 they already know what they're getting.

00:20:59.900 And so like, I understand why people looking at the mainstream, we could call that all lie

00:21:03.520 right out.

00:21:04.000 Right.

00:21:04.420 Right.

00:21:04.600 The baton gets passed to Rogan, the baton gets passed to, uh, I mean, in a certain regard,

00:21:10.160 Tim Pool, uh, in a certain regard, Russell Brand, right.

00:21:13.680 And all these people that are like, and not even just conservative, there's liberal talking

00:21:17.100 heads on the other side of this, that alternative media, and they're just echo chambering it in

00:21:21.540 and of themselves.

00:21:22.260 Right.

00:21:22.720 Right.

00:21:23.400 And then there's like us who are this weird gray area where we kind of fuck with everybody,

00:21:27.880 but we also don't fuck with anybody.

00:21:29.580 And you don't answer to anybody, which is, I think more important because it allows you

00:21:33.620 to pass that through a filter of like whatever your genuine opinion is instead of having to

00:21:37.540 go through like business acumen and whether or not this is going to hurt your bottom line.

00:21:41.540 Uh, you just pass it through the filter of, is this something that I find interesting or

00:21:45.120 believe this is, this is the thing that's important to that creators that are our size

00:21:49.220 need to realize you might think that you're like a smaller account, but you're moving culture

00:21:53.340 on a weird level.

00:21:54.380 And I've done it multiple times.

00:21:55.880 Now it's to the point where he has to address you.

00:21:58.500 Like I'm not big, like obviously I'm not Tim Pool big.

00:22:01.800 It doesn't make any sense, but the conversation and then they look at who's leading it and

00:22:06.220 they're like, Oh, this guy's been there.

00:22:07.400 Like you, they have to address it.

00:22:08.960 That's why he blamed me for the anti-war movement.

00:22:10.820 I was in the libertarian party.

00:22:12.920 And then I'm like, you guys are gay.

00:22:14.680 Like after a while, I'm like, you guys are really fucking gay.

00:22:17.200 And I think you're wrong.

00:22:18.560 And me saying that, and a couple other people shot that entire party in the foot to the point

00:22:22.800 where they nominated a sodomite and a cop.

00:22:25.280 And it's like, yeah, exactly.

00:22:28.000 They, they lost their shit.

00:22:29.080 It had nothing to do with me.

00:22:30.080 All I did was say like, you're making the wrong decisions here.

00:22:32.960 If you want to lead to a better future, you're not, you're, you're being ideological.

00:22:36.820 You're not being living in reality.

00:22:39.340 But that's a tell too, right?

00:22:40.360 The fact that he said that to you top, it's like, he believes that he believes that you

00:22:44.860 and your boys hurt the anti-war movement, which is hilarious because it's essentially giving

00:22:49.460 you a disproportionate amount of power in this conversation.

00:22:52.380 So when you talk about, here's a, for instance, the libertarian party, which I guess I was

00:22:56.960 goofy in 2018, they were like, oh, you know, state state's rights.

00:23:00.620 And we need to respect that.

00:23:01.900 And, uh, uh, some people were saying shit like, uh, well, the vaccine is, uh, you know,

00:23:05.840 that's a, it's a choice.

00:23:06.840 It's a person.

00:23:07.380 It was never a choice.

00:23:08.620 It was, it was, I don't, I don't want to get you guys.

00:23:11.220 Are you on anywhere you can get suspended?

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00:23:42.440 It was, it was never a choice.

00:23:46.080 It was presented like, oh, it's a choice, but I lived in New York and it was a choice,

00:23:49.740 but you couldn't do this, this or that.

00:23:51.900 I couldn't, I couldn't go to the store.

00:23:53.380 I couldn't go to events.

00:23:54.880 And at some point my job was going to fire me because they were like, you can't come to

00:23:58.780 here if you're not that I wouldn't even tell them my status.

00:24:01.000 They're like, are you vaccinated?

00:24:01.960 I said, maybe.

00:24:03.080 And so like they had me doing tests every week.

00:24:05.360 It was, but it wasn't a choice.

00:24:06.860 But that's New York though, right?

00:24:07.800 You were up there.

00:24:08.820 Yeah, I was in New York.

00:24:09.720 So I'll say this.

00:24:10.780 Now I can't speak for the whole country, but my,

00:24:12.440 section of Louisiana, my, the CEO of the company I worked for at the time was, uh, kind of

00:24:18.860 toying around with the idea of, uh, forcing everyone to get vaxxed.

00:24:23.320 And it wasn't because he was buying into the narrative at the time.

00:24:27.080 Nobody knew fuck or shit about what's actually going on.

00:24:30.140 We didn't know if this was the next Spanish flu or if this was just a flu, you know what

00:24:33.860 I mean?

00:24:34.040 So it was an idea pretty much, uh, three quarters of his facility told him, if you do that, you

00:24:40.780 will not have a facility.

00:24:42.940 Like we will take this bitch down brick by brick and carry it with us out the door.

00:24:46.440 Fuck you.

00:24:46.880 Right.

00:24:47.620 So, and he listened because he's a good dude.

00:24:50.640 And again, it wasn't like he was trying to be that guy, but no, but he's just exploring

00:24:53.980 it.

00:24:54.200 Right.

00:24:54.600 Like at the time where everything's so uncertain, the government is pressuring you, all this

00:24:57.740 different shit is happening.

00:24:58.560 It's like, it's reasonable to explore it.

00:25:00.200 But if you think it all the way through, you have to stand on a line, which is to say,

00:25:03.420 here's the point.

00:25:04.220 They're going to invade these people's rights.

00:25:06.080 The point is that they were, they were saying this and then libertarians would defend them.

00:25:10.880 Really goofy, like reasoned, uh, magazine and Cato Institute.

00:25:14.880 These people are very serious people, doctorate and shit.

00:25:17.020 They're arguing with me.

00:25:17.980 This is two years, uh, four years ago.

00:25:19.960 And they're like, Oh, there's actually a choice.

00:25:22.040 I was like, there was no choice.

00:25:22.840 It was, it was, uh, like the mafia kind of coming to you and like forcing you.

00:25:26.420 Like, yeah, don't, not, you're not, I'm not forcing you to make you an offer that

00:25:30.140 you are unable to refuse, call that what you want.

00:25:33.160 Yeah.

00:25:33.400 Pretty much.

00:25:33.820 We're coerced, coerced with pressures that are, you know, surrounding the fundamental

00:25:38.760 aspects of your life, your ability to travel, your ability to make money, right?

00:25:42.320 The most fundamental aspects of, of being able to carve a living out.

00:25:46.240 Those are the things that it hinges on.

00:25:47.960 So no, technically you can, whatever you can exist like a pariah in your home and never go

00:25:52.220 out again and hopefully collect some unemployment checks or some COVID checks, whatever the hell's

00:25:55.680 going on there.

00:25:56.420 Uh, but you can't partake in, in civilized society.

00:25:58.800 And here's the reason.

00:25:59.460 The reasoning for that, for the libertarians was like, well, what do you, what do you want

00:26:02.320 to do?

00:26:02.560 Make a law where, where we are like ban people from doing that.

00:26:05.580 And I'm like, so they're so against government that they're against making a law that bans

00:26:10.600 government from treating you like an animal.

00:26:12.960 So I'm like, you guys are fucking clowns.

00:26:15.060 And then I, then I started disassembling you piece by piece with comedy.

00:26:18.340 And it's really, apparently it's almost impossible for you to like fight this because we were at

00:26:23.020 the point, David actually came to perform with tower gang.

00:26:25.140 The libertarian party of Georgia invited us to roast the, they did a political debate for who

00:26:31.300 would be the presidential nominee.

00:26:32.520 And then right after we went and we went on, it's like, you guys can't, there's nothing you

00:26:36.840 can do.

00:26:37.140 This party's struggling, failing.

00:26:38.740 And I guess, yeah.

00:26:39.560 In that sense, I did take down the anti-war movement with a fucking comedy show, but you

00:26:42.880 deserved it.

00:26:43.500 And the QAnon community had this same thing a couple of years back, right?

00:26:47.840 A couple of them found a true pedophilic rings that were going on and they reported to the

00:26:53.020 local police that arrested these people.

00:26:55.320 It wasn't like political elites at the top.

00:26:56.880 I forget what the situation was, but they were, they found some things.

00:27:00.160 Yo, for real, they brought it forward and they were ostracized by the QAnon community.

00:27:04.420 I can't believe you became a bootlicker.

00:27:06.380 You reached out to the cops and it's like, bro, can you actually pull your head from your

00:27:11.260 ass for two seconds and realize that they just helped save children?

00:27:14.660 You're mad because they went through the law?

00:27:17.960 Fuck off, dude.

00:27:19.180 I think a lot of these people are, are also experiencing this downswing because of their

00:27:25.240 inability.

00:27:25.740 It's like, we put our trust in alternative media to some extent.

00:27:28.560 It was better placed there than it was within mainstream media.

00:27:31.240 But during the whole COVID debacle, we saw all these people that we were looking to as,

00:27:35.640 as the ones who were supposed to be outspoken against all this shit, they kept fumbling

00:27:38.740 the ball.

00:27:39.220 They were pussyfooting.

00:27:40.040 They were too soft and, and not, didn't want to jump to conclusions.

00:27:43.000 Meanwhile, the entire country of the world was getting locked down and people were getting,

00:27:45.980 you know, coerced experimental, uh, inoculations.

00:27:49.300 And you know, it's like, I looked to Joe Rogan and he, it was just too slow.

00:27:55.720 It was too slow.

00:27:56.260 I'm not saying that that is indicative of him being a bad guy, but it was like, I was catching

00:28:00.260 things in real time that he was talking about months down the line.

00:28:04.320 I knew about hydroxychloroquine as I was in the hospital with my son.

00:28:08.440 Um, and it was like March.

00:28:09.960 So March 25th, uh, 2020, I'm in the hospital.

00:28:13.120 I'm looking up like possible solutions for this because the world had just shut down.

00:28:17.880 Right.

00:28:18.380 Yeah.

00:28:18.780 And they didn't figure that shit out.

00:28:19.960 It didn't become a thing until like two months later where it's like taboo to talk about.

00:28:23.880 Implementation on a, on a political or, or a medical level is way downstream from the

00:28:28.180 conversation.

00:28:28.740 The conversation isn't even being had until like too little, too late.

00:28:31.980 So, you know, when I think Rogan does that strategically because he's aware of how big

00:28:36.060 he is and he knows that if he says some off the wall shit that he did for himself personally,

00:28:40.020 there's millions of people that will follow suit.

00:28:42.640 And if that plays out bad, he could be liable.

00:28:45.100 And so I think that he plays it kind of close to the chest and he will talk about it later

00:28:49.220 on when things find, you know, it's kind of a way to protect his ass, I guess.

00:28:53.080 And then the problem with that is, um, we are in a time where the conversation matters

00:28:58.260 more dramatically than it ever has.

00:28:59.900 So fuck these people, because if they're not going to have it, then somebody else needs

00:29:04.220 to have it.

00:29:04.900 So if Tim Pool's not going to have it when it fucking matters, then fuck Tim Pool.

00:29:08.600 If Joe Rogan's not going to have it when it matters, then fuck Joe Rogan.

00:29:11.560 And I'm not saying you got to hate these guys, but I'm saying Jordan Peterson, you know,

00:29:15.000 this is, it's, I named myself top lobster from the first chapter of his book.

00:29:18.560 Um, but if, if he's going to go and say, Hey Trudeau, I took your damn vaccine.

00:29:22.900 Now give me back my rights.

00:29:24.240 This is like, you're the guy who also said, don't bargain with terrorists.

00:29:28.000 Like that was a whole part of your book.

00:29:29.760 Don't, don't give them an inch.

00:29:31.480 And here you are doing that.

00:29:32.820 So it's like, all right, next shooter, you're gone.

00:29:35.000 Next person up.

00:29:35.760 This is why, I guess this is what got me into this weird conspiracy space.

00:29:39.440 And it sounds like it's political, right?

00:29:41.860 It's comes from this weird, weird gay political birth, but you kind of have to eventually end

00:29:48.420 up where we're at now.

00:29:49.780 Yeah.

00:29:50.120 People find the truth from different ways.

00:29:52.520 Sometimes it's politically based.

00:29:54.060 Sometimes I know veterans that came back from the war and that's what started their conspiracy

00:29:58.140 slash truth or mindset was because they saw it firsthand of what bullshit was.

00:30:02.880 Right.

00:30:03.300 And not always guys in the front lines kicking doors.

00:30:05.000 I mean like the fucking, uh, the legal and logistics guys are the dudes that were moving

00:30:09.420 stacks of cash from Saddam's palace to over here.

00:30:11.880 Wait, why did he have 50,000 pallets of us dollars just on it?

00:30:15.820 It was stuff like that that kind of started people's conversations.

00:30:18.820 Then the, the vaccine was another one, then the fucking election being rigged.

00:30:22.360 So it's like people come to it sometimes from political, sometimes from medical, sometimes

00:30:26.160 personal experiences, but it gets to a point.

00:30:28.760 And like you said, we get to a point where we're undeniable.

00:30:32.120 Like you may not like us, you may, you may hate the shit we talk about, but you can't

00:30:37.440 deny what the fuck we're doing here.

00:30:39.500 Right.

00:30:40.100 And I think that's why we're finding, uh, the success that we are finding.

00:30:43.600 But like I said, man, it's happening so fast.

00:30:46.320 You just named a few things.

00:30:47.740 The news cycle is turning over so fast.

00:30:50.400 We cannot risk waiting to have these conversations.

00:30:53.960 We can't risk, um, or we can't wait until it's safe when it's good for us to have these

00:30:59.340 conversations while they're dangerous.

00:31:02.160 I'll tell you a quick story.

00:31:03.900 So our boy, Clint Liberty lockdown, and he's like big name, the political space.

00:31:07.340 He got a Pfizer whistleblower, um, about maybe last year, pretty much when we first started

00:31:12.940 the show Nephilim death squad.

00:31:14.340 Yeah.

00:31:14.620 And he has her on and she's talking about how basically they knew that it would have bad

00:31:18.740 side effects and yada, yada.

00:31:20.560 And there's like paperwork to prove that they knew beforehand, but still went through and

00:31:24.540 push it through anyway.

00:31:25.880 And it's a 30 minute interview.

00:31:27.040 Go back there and watch it.

00:31:28.140 Uh, he goes now, in your opinion, why do you think, uh, these companies are doing this?

00:31:35.100 And she just goes like this, Clint, are you aware of the Nephilim?

00:31:38.960 And he almost falls out of his seat because he was calling us retarded and crazy for like,

00:31:43.160 you know, I was talking about the Nephilim probably for like six or seven months before

00:31:47.300 we even started the show.

00:31:48.380 And he's just like, write me off as, yeah, you're, you're a retard, you're a conspiracy

00:31:52.040 theorist.

00:31:52.300 And this lady with all these, you know, credentials comes on his show and he's, she's breaking

00:31:57.120 down all the freaking numbers of this virus.

00:32:00.360 It's my favorite moment of that show.

00:32:02.360 So going back and just watching his eyes when, when she says that, because it's like, it's

00:32:06.140 not like his eyes popped open, but you could just read that behind them.

00:32:09.480 He's thinking of top.

00:32:10.360 He's thinking of Nephilim death squad.

00:32:11.820 And he's like, are you fucking kidding me?

00:32:12.760 So she was basically saying that like the, the vaccine companies were essentially playing

00:32:18.440 the roles of the fallen angel.

00:32:20.320 More or less what she was saying was that the, the implications of this are spiritual.

00:32:25.320 And, um, she thinks that there's genetic implications to the vaccination.

00:32:28.740 And when you start to ask, well, what, of what variety?

00:32:32.720 Well, that was her answer then is like, first she asked him if he was religious and he said,

00:32:36.860 sort of I'm agnostic.

00:32:37.700 And then she said, well, let me tell you something about the Nephilim.

00:32:39.460 And so it was, she touched on it and you could tell she's a Pfizer whistleblower.

00:32:43.480 This is an employee from Pfizer.

00:32:45.720 Um, she has to maintain some level of, of, you know, intellectual integrity.

00:32:49.560 So she doesn't go down that pipe too far, but she did drop that bomb on his lap.

00:32:54.080 This, this thing that we're moving towards, we're talking about how the news cycle is

00:32:59.020 happening so fast.

00:32:59.900 You have to talk about these things while they're dangerous.

00:33:02.540 There's a guy, I'm not going to get into it too much because we beat our audience.

00:33:06.020 Look at this guy.

00:33:06.660 Segway.

00:33:07.320 Segway master.

00:33:08.320 Segway time.

00:33:09.460 Um, I'm not going to beat it to death too badly because we have dragged this body through

00:33:13.200 the streets on our show on Sam Tripoli show.

00:33:16.000 Um, but there is a gentleman named Cliff High and long story short there, everybody have

00:33:20.440 a drink.

00:33:20.860 Uh, long story short, he creates a web bot that scrapes data off the internet and he

00:33:25.180 uses that data to make predictions.

00:33:26.760 Hold on.

00:33:26.980 Are you guys aware of this?

00:33:28.580 Yeah.

00:33:29.140 I don't know what he does.

00:33:30.500 Well, he said that the Joe Rogan, Donald Trump was the, the linchpin towards, uh, making

00:33:35.380 this weird future possible.

00:33:37.220 Yes, that's a great way to put it.

00:33:38.680 That's a great, um, abridged version of it.

00:33:41.060 So, you know, this does happen, but one of the things that's in his data set that he's

00:33:46.480 predicting is that we're on the cusp of a time where legacy media fully dies.

00:33:52.460 And then what ends up happening is there are all these would be sponsors and investors

00:33:58.580 who are still looking to control the narrative.

00:34:01.180 They're going to be looking at us.

00:34:04.120 And during this time, a lot of us, this is, you know, all allegedly take it with a grain

00:34:09.220 of salt.

00:34:09.760 A lot of his predictions don't come true.

00:34:11.500 Although some of them do.

00:34:12.980 Um, I'm not laughing at the prediction.

00:34:14.640 No, no, I'm just, I'm laughing at the thought of like, uh, uh, a Pfizer coming and knocking

00:34:19.520 on our door to be like, listen, I know what you've been saying, but I have a really large

00:34:23.960 check and I'm just, I'm picturing my response.

00:34:26.160 I'm sorry.

00:34:26.460 Yes.

00:34:26.800 Yeah.

00:34:26.940 No, no, no.

00:34:27.560 The number.

00:34:28.260 What's the number?

00:34:29.660 The only reason I'm thinking of the number is so that I could tell everybody what number

00:34:33.320 I turned down.

00:34:34.140 Because what is beautiful is that, um, we're in a sort of a, this really amazing era where

00:34:39.440 as a content creator, you can make a tremendous amount of money.

00:34:41.200 You don't need these people at all, but he's saying that a lot of us are going to get co-opted

00:34:46.900 during this time.

00:34:48.080 And I think that if you look at the way people are treating big shows, like, you know, Tim

00:34:53.740 cast IRL, um, of course, any of the, the, the, the actual legacy media company, CNN, Fox

00:35:00.100 and all this other stuff, you can imagine those big ones would die off.

00:35:02.980 And then there would be the upper echelon of alternative media, your Tim's and what have

00:35:08.260 you.

00:35:08.420 And those people, I guess, are being bought off right now.

00:35:12.240 Well, they're dying.

00:35:13.320 It's because they've been, I don't know if they've been bought or if they've been, here's

00:35:19.040 the thing.

00:35:19.460 And I'll be fair to Tim because I went to his place and what I, I'm a business guy.

00:35:23.740 So when I saw what he's doing, I really respect it.

00:35:25.980 And I, I know a lot of his employees, they're great people, but when you're running a business

00:35:30.900 and you have employees that you've got to pay.

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00:35:59.120 Uh, that could be enough for, you know, it's not like, oh, he's taking all this money and

00:36:05.680 it's like, oh, but it could be enough for YouTube to just, their censors to be like,

00:36:09.040 hey, listen, uh, you're not going to say this, this, and that, because if you do, then we're

00:36:14.460 going to cut your revenue and you, you have to fire half these people without YouTube revenue.

00:36:18.400 And you know what is, is hugely, um, scary to them.

00:36:23.180 If you are some sort of like remnant of the status quo and you're trying to maintain,

00:36:27.760 uh, control over the narrative.

00:36:30.240 And so you're looking to alternative media sources and you're going, I have the money

00:36:34.120 to put these people on and control them.

00:36:36.400 And then you look over to guys like us and we're throwing Bohemian Grove without anybody.

00:36:41.700 We're doing big numbers without anybody.

00:36:43.960 We're doing, you know, six shows a week without any sort of backing.

00:36:47.600 We're getting all these opportunities.

00:36:49.100 We don't need this apparatus that seemingly the previously existing model did need.

00:36:55.180 We don't need that anymore.

00:36:56.220 So honestly, I think that as funny as it is like Bohemian Grove are up there, we're talking

00:37:00.260 about Adrena Chrome and all this fun stuff and people are wearing cloaks and it's, it's

00:37:03.280 got a comedy bent to it.

00:37:04.580 Yeah, that is real culture.

00:37:06.560 That is the beginning of cultural movements that is not indicative to doing business.

00:37:11.740 If you are of the old model, there's a, there's a picture of, of Tim cast and he

00:37:17.560 did a live event with Dave Smith.

00:37:19.520 Who's like, I mean, half a million followers on Twitter.

00:37:21.920 Love Dave Smith.

00:37:23.060 Again, don't like every single thing he ever says, but as far as like shutting down a loud

00:37:27.140 mouth, let Dave Smith cook.

00:37:29.020 You know what I mean?

00:37:29.360 He's the best.

00:37:29.740 He's the best at it.

00:37:30.620 I know Dave personally.

00:37:31.520 I used to work for him or work with him.

00:37:33.660 And he's been on hang with.

00:37:34.860 I feel like he'd be a cool dude to hang with.

00:37:37.160 He's, he's very like low key chill now.

00:37:39.280 Like, cause he's got like a kid, but he'll hang with you a little bit.

00:37:41.980 He's not, he's not going to be out late.

00:37:43.540 Um, but Dave is great.

00:37:45.820 And, uh, you, you know, Legion of Skanks guys, like, uh, Luis G Gomez.

00:37:49.540 Yes.

00:37:50.580 Luis is, uh, Luis is the homie.

00:37:52.420 I used to work with him.

00:37:53.320 I've heard he, no, no, no.

00:37:54.080 He likes to party.

00:37:55.020 I'm, I, yeah.

00:37:56.320 He'll do cocaine with you.

00:37:57.180 If I'm rolling with him, I'm understanding, like we may get arrested tonight.

00:38:02.440 And like, that's okay.

00:38:03.320 You know, you're going to fight, you're going to fight an Uber driver at the very least.

00:38:06.880 Um, what was I saying about Dave?

00:38:09.700 Uh, you were saying how he went at an event with Tim.

00:38:12.680 Yeah.

00:38:13.320 Yeah.

00:38:13.540 He, he did an event with Tim and it's like, no one's in the audience.

00:38:16.600 They had like 40 people of dysgenic people just sitting there.

00:38:20.260 And I'm like, that's crazy.

00:38:21.820 How does that, there's this whole wave going on as well, where even if someone has shown

00:38:26.620 full fledged that like, whatever you've been saying is incorrect.

00:38:30.260 And I don't mean disrespectfully, not even skull dragging, like legitimately with facts

00:38:35.320 and logic and things, the things you have been saying for years is incorrect.

00:38:39.440 And it's time for you to acknowledge that and like, not pack it up and quit your job,

00:38:44.380 but maybe shift gears a bit, maybe enhance some things.

00:38:47.820 Did y'all hear about the, uh, the art Antarctic, uh, journey that was just taken?

00:38:52.900 I hear about that.

00:38:53.860 So the entire scope of this, a pastor paid $35,000 for some reason people think, well,

00:39:01.180 you just can't go to Antarctica.

00:39:02.400 Yeah, you can.

00:39:03.180 You actually can.

00:39:03.980 There's never been anything against that.

00:39:05.580 You can't go to certain areas.

00:39:06.920 Cause it's really fucking dangerous as a giant floating glacier and they don't want you walking

00:39:10.580 out and dying.

00:39:11.400 Right.

00:39:11.800 But like you can, you can go to Antarctica.

00:39:14.260 You really can.

00:39:15.000 And so this pastor did, he bought a ship and he brought, half of them were round earthers.

00:39:20.820 Half of them were flat earthers.

00:39:22.200 We're working on, uh, Austin Witsit.

00:39:25.000 He's, he's did reply to me.

00:39:26.300 He might come on the show.

00:39:27.040 He's one of the people that went down.

00:39:28.120 He's a flat earther that saw it, but continue.

00:39:30.340 Yeah.

00:39:30.780 And so, so this is my question to them.

00:39:32.600 There was a couple of them that went that acknowledged that like this, all right, I'm

00:39:38.180 wrong.

00:39:38.740 Like this is, this is a flat.

00:39:40.060 I thought it was flat.

00:39:40.960 This can't happen on a flat plane.

00:39:43.240 So I don't know what to call this.

00:39:44.660 And they weren't confirming it's round, but they were at least understanding that it's

00:39:48.500 not flat and that they were wrong.

00:39:49.880 No, it's no, they correct.

00:39:51.880 The model of the flat earth that they thought it was doesn't calculate with the 24 hour sun.

00:39:57.960 That's my point.

00:39:58.680 And so instead of acknowledging, Hey, maybe I'm wrong because this entire thing is stupid.

00:40:03.500 They're like, we just had to build a different model that makes this work.

00:40:06.320 Like, bro, y'all don't understand how many extra hoops you're jumping through Occam's razor

00:40:11.120 on this bitch.

00:40:11.860 Like, fuck.

00:40:12.240 Well, there, there are a lot of people on there that are actually going after that guy.

00:40:18.960 Um, uh, I can't remember the guy's name that went down there with the op and all that.

00:40:23.540 Yeah.

00:40:24.660 Uh, yeah.

00:40:25.140 There's a lot of people going after him.

00:40:26.580 Like all of the hardcore diehard flat earthers are fucking coming for his head.

00:40:32.500 And they're like, hold on.

00:40:33.720 Like the video didn't make sense.

00:40:35.660 There was like weird shadows that seemed like they were, you know, editing, uh, parts of

00:40:40.220 videos together.

00:40:40.700 One picture that I saw where all the shadows of the equipment were casted in different

00:40:44.540 directions, but I'm retarded.

00:40:45.940 And I don't know.

00:40:46.480 That's perspective.

00:40:47.360 That's like, uh, yeah, that's fairly simple to, if the sun is here and, and you're like

00:40:51.500 looking at it, it's going to cast it.

00:40:52.680 That's that's right.

00:40:53.500 Yeah.

00:40:53.660 Like I saw that.

00:40:54.460 And I go before like, this is proof.

00:40:56.280 I'm like, I don't know.

00:40:56.820 I'm wearing these crazy sunglasses is bright as fuck.

00:40:59.200 The snow is reflected.

00:41:00.360 Oh yeah.

00:41:00.680 Yeah.

00:41:00.940 Dude.

00:41:01.100 I mean, yeah.

00:41:01.740 It's so bright.

00:41:02.420 There's so many things, but even still, we are talking about a professional group, a

00:41:06.080 group of professional flat earthers that were brought there.

00:41:09.180 It's not like they found a guy that was kind of on the fence about it.

00:41:11.880 These dudes have made their money off of this for them to say that this is no longer the

00:41:16.680 case and for them to turn on.

00:41:18.520 I'm like, y'all, y'all could just acknowledge that you're wrong.

00:41:21.420 Like at one point the world believed the moon was made of cheese and then they acknowledged

00:41:25.400 it was wrong.

00:41:26.080 It's okay, man.

00:41:27.320 I think though.

00:41:28.980 So here's where I'm at with it.

00:41:30.860 I didn't, I wouldn't say I was a flat earther before, but I was just like, I don't know,

00:41:35.000 maybe, but I think for sure they're lying about the shape of the earth.

00:41:38.100 They're lying about, they're lying about everything.

00:41:41.720 So it's like lying about a lot.

00:41:43.180 We know that the math don't math.

00:41:44.660 And like, I am grateful for the flat earth community for blowing the lid off of so many

00:41:48.240 other conspiracies, like mad respect to it.

00:41:50.840 But one plus one does not equal three, no matter which angle you're looking at it.

00:41:54.700 I'm sorry.

00:41:55.080 So you know what the problem is here?

00:41:56.760 It's the same thing as like the Billy Carson thing, right?

00:41:59.700 And so many of the other people, right?

00:42:02.060 The culture is changing in such a way.

00:42:04.140 It's become very obvious that these conspiracies deserve more credence than we've been willing

00:42:07.980 to give them.

00:42:08.640 Now, I've been saying this to people like Dave Smith, to people like Clint Russell.

00:42:12.580 I've been saying if you don't have, and this is just one anecdotal aspect of it, if you

00:42:15.820 don't have an opinion on aliens, ETs, whatever you want to call them, you've got a real problem

00:42:21.000 because you never gave this thing any credence.

00:42:22.840 And soon the government is going to tell you a narrative and you're going to have to enjoy

00:42:25.940 that before you can get your shit together and do enough research to catch up.

00:42:29.780 There are people that have dedicated all of their time to one thing and now cannot pivot.

00:42:35.040 So when they're showing something that's, you know, flies in the face of that, like,

00:42:38.320 let's say, Billy Carson.

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00:43:07.480 When he gets exposed for misrepresenting ancient texts, for misquoting them, for flat out lying

00:43:14.360 to some degree about whatever they see, all these different things, the problem is you

00:43:18.680 pitched yourself as an expert.

00:43:21.180 You pitched yourself as Anunnaki Daddy.

00:43:23.960 You know what I mean?

00:43:24.700 And now the problem is-

00:43:25.940 The foremost expert on ancient scrolls, texts, and tablets.

00:43:28.640 That was his work.

00:43:29.540 Over and over.

00:43:29.960 Which is-

00:43:30.520 Honestly, the armor-

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00:45:04.660 It's at the right time for so like just for about everything because we went on a Luke Rutkowski show.

00:45:11.300 Yeah, this is when Clint was still a co-host on it.

00:45:14.280 And they do this thing at the end where they're like, OK, just leave a random question for the next person that's coming.

00:45:20.180 And we might have asked who it is or I think we did.

00:45:23.280 And they were like, oh, Billy Carson.

00:45:24.280 I was like, I don't know this black guy.

00:45:25.480 I didn't know him.

00:45:25.780 Yeah, I didn't know.

00:45:26.160 Yeah, so our question to the next guest was, why do demons, why do aliens flee?

00:45:34.720 We said all these aliens, cryptids and demonic encounters.

00:45:37.820 Why do they all flee at the name of Jesus Christ?

00:45:39.780 No idea what this dude's about.

00:45:41.240 Yeah.

00:45:41.600 That was a random question y'all asked to Billy Carson.

00:45:44.300 Talk about a 10 out of 10 Hail Mary.

00:45:47.400 You know what I mean?

00:45:47.780 But this is a blindfolded home run.

00:45:50.040 Let's let Jacob and Jonathan guess.

00:45:52.140 Give me a couple of guesses.

00:45:53.200 What do you think he said?

00:45:55.140 Jonathan first.

00:45:55.780 Because I have my own opinion, but it's going to sound like I'm being shitty towards him.

00:45:59.740 Jonathan, what do you think Billy's response to that?

00:46:01.600 I thought that's what we were doing here.

00:46:02.540 What do I think that Billy Carson's response to that question was?

00:46:06.280 Yes.

00:46:08.420 Did he probably say that you believe in the name of Jesus?

00:46:14.340 You believe in the holy power of Jesus so much that essentially it emulates, you know, that basically the antithesis to fear, right?

00:46:23.960 Like, so whenever you have like a shitload of fear, some people will create demonic entities.

00:46:28.800 And if you say the name of Jesus, maybe it's the absolute opposite of that.

00:46:33.280 And that's what drives it away.

00:46:35.060 I could also see him bringing up Inky and Enlil for no fucking reason that no one asked for.

00:46:39.900 I could see him bringing in some Anunnaki as well.

00:46:42.460 And how that's more or less what you're saying is not what you're seeing.

00:46:44.820 It's looking at something else that's presenting itself.

00:46:46.700 I could see all that, too.

00:46:47.420 Yeah. Yeah. And it was more or less that idea of like creating an aggregate or and that we as human beings are so spiritually powerful that we can create this like defense mechanism.

00:46:55.900 And and it'll protect us from these things that are real, but are not what we think they are, which is hilarious because I look at that and I go, it is real, but not what you think they are.

00:47:05.540 Which is funny because that's actually what I believe, too.

00:47:08.340 So as far as the issue with that is and I don't think there's anything wrong with that, it's it's it's the problem is when you're pitching yourself as an expert and you've built an entire career and you're essentially like some sort of millionaire off the back of this kind of data.

00:47:20.860 Instead of tempering it with this is what the data suggests to me, although I'm not too sure, because how could you be too sure?

00:47:27.700 So my thing to that is right in the Bible, it says Jesus Christ gives you the authority to tread on serpents and scorpions through his name.

00:47:34.860 He gives us the it's a it's a very simple explanation.

00:47:37.840 He came, he died for our sins.

00:47:39.540 He he made it so that he is the way to the father.

00:47:42.820 But he also gave us the ability to tread on this dark spiritual realm.

00:47:46.560 And the the it almost seems like mental gymnastics in the other direction.

00:47:51.140 You know what I mean?

00:47:51.920 To have to like triple double backflip and say that we're creating this this agrigor when there's so much evidence for the guy existing.

00:48:02.620 Sorry, go ahead.

00:48:03.840 If he would have presented himself like this is my opinion of it.

00:48:06.200 Now, I don't know, but I think dot dot dot run off, you know, go off on it.

00:48:10.420 But if you're going to present yourself as some sort of like learned expert who has no credentials by your name, other than a few small degrees that have nothing to do with anything that also can't really be verified.

00:48:21.680 That's like your boy.

00:48:23.640 What's his name?

00:48:24.320 Terrence Howard coming on saying he had a doctorate from that college of something.

00:48:27.560 If you go to that college, they don't offer a doctorate program in that field.

00:48:30.900 So it's like it could be in behavior.

00:48:32.540 It's exact behavior.

00:48:33.440 It could be under his name.

00:48:35.500 That's right.

00:48:36.720 I'm not even saying that I hate those ideas or anything.

00:48:39.100 And I think within so many different belief systems, there are elements of truth or else you couldn't build something compelling off of them.

00:48:44.860 The foundation needs to have some elements of truth in order for it to all stick together and make something compelling.

00:48:49.000 That's going to draw people in.

00:48:50.000 But it's just when you when you don't temper these things with I'm not sure I'm not positive.

00:48:55.960 It's like, how could you know you were not there?

00:48:58.500 The problem with with his explanation really is that he what he said was a lot of words to describe what Jonathan just just expressed.

00:49:07.060 But what he what it felt like he said was Jesus is a faggot.

00:49:10.560 That's what I thought he told me.

00:49:11.680 And I was like, I don't like I don't like your vibe on it this entire episode.

00:49:14.840 That's what you've been vibing at saying that he's either fake or didn't do anything.

00:49:18.600 And it's like, but that's what I believe.

00:49:20.120 And now I understand that that's this is what you believe.

00:49:22.280 But now I'm going to get real disrespectful with it.

00:49:24.200 You know what I mean?

00:49:24.860 Yeah.

00:49:25.240 And that might show up at your house with a slap lawsuit.

00:49:27.540 Take it easy.

00:49:28.320 Well, that's crazy is that.

00:49:29.720 That's the problem with with Billy Carson, Carson, though, is that he kind of got popular by skull dragging or at least his own version of skull skull dragging Christianity.

00:49:39.980 Like that's what motivated him was to I'm going to bring up all this stuff and this will shut the Christians up.

00:49:47.720 Finally, and you can't go at it from that way and say that you're a spiritual person.

00:49:52.080 You can't go at it from that way and say that you're some kind of expert, especially whenever you're quoting.

00:49:58.640 And I love this book.

00:50:00.220 I love this book that I'm about to mention, but you can't quote things.

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00:50:30.720 From the Emerald Tablets of Thoth by Maurice Dorio.

00:50:36.380 It's literally a channeled message.

00:50:38.740 OK, and also we don't even have the tablets.

00:50:41.800 You know what I'm saying?

00:50:42.420 It's like because they don't exist.

00:50:44.120 Well, I mean, you know, let's say that they hypothetically did exist.

00:50:47.040 If they were sitting somewhere and they were being studied by language experts and things like that and they had a physical tablet, I would go, this is very interesting.

00:50:55.060 Doesn't mean that you have to believe it 100 percent, but here is a chunk of history that is incredibly compelling.

00:50:59.580 How blessed are we to have this thing?

00:51:01.220 You know what I mean?

00:51:01.620 But that's not what's happening.

00:51:03.100 This is secondhand information from a guy who claims to have seen them or whatever.

00:51:07.000 And they're not anywhere in any kind of collection or anything like that.

00:51:10.180 It's a it's a huge issue to be quoting that.

00:51:13.020 Well, the end is trying to drag Christians without an opponent.

00:51:16.080 Well, he's trying to drag things and say from the Sinai Bible, you're not even saying it right.

00:51:21.000 That's not even how it's called.

00:51:22.020 You're the only one calling it the Sinai Bible or when he would do the same thing with the Koran or the same thing with the Torah.

00:51:26.840 You're quoting things that you know nothing about and you're acting like you're winning because you're fighting with no opponent.

00:51:32.960 You are fancy shadowboxing.

00:51:34.360 And if you ever stepped up to a real one, this would happen.

00:51:37.780 Which is exactly what happened.

00:51:39.360 Which is exactly what happened.

00:51:40.720 Wesley dragged him.

00:51:41.660 And there's there is certain I want to say that that Maurice Doriel, he was allegedly remote viewing.

00:51:49.080 And that is something that has been done within the CIA.

00:51:52.480 You know, we've seen the the articles about papers on it the other day, didn't they?

00:51:56.600 Yeah, about how they were remote viewing Mars and they saw large people and pyramids and stuff like that.

00:52:02.020 And look, that's not to say that it's it's not to say that it's a fiction.

00:52:07.020 It's just that remote viewing isn't generally accepted by the public because the only way to confirm it is to confirm it.

00:52:15.500 And if you're a trust me, bro, more or less.

00:52:17.780 Right.

00:52:18.020 Like I saw anybody on your point, Jonathan, I'm sorry to cut you off.

00:52:20.740 But I talked about Cliff High before Cliff High recruited the the help of a CIA.

00:52:27.040 Employed remote viewer.

00:52:28.960 There you go.

00:52:29.480 So to your point, Jonathan, it's not something that I totally dismiss.

00:52:34.960 I think there's some validity to it, but it's it's it's hard to prove.

00:52:38.280 Well, in the idea of in Maurice Doriel, you know, the the Atlantean or what is it called?

00:52:44.260 The Emerald Tablets of the Atlantean.

00:52:46.240 And allegedly he got that information and he said that these Emerald Tablets that nobody can get their hands on.

00:52:51.600 The reason why nobody can get their hands on them is because they are underneath the pyramids of Giza.

00:52:56.680 And that if you were to to dig up under there or maybe there's some kind of hidden tomb or hidden pathway to be able to get to these things, that's allegedly where he remote viewed them.

00:53:06.880 And allegedly that's how he would.

00:53:08.940 He was able to channel or at least read somehow these Emerald Tablets and stuff like that, which is cool.

00:53:15.040 It's it's it's cool.

00:53:16.140 But whenever you it's fun, you can't you can't then relate that to archaeology like these are two different realms.

00:53:22.440 Right.

00:53:22.880 Well, he's going by Dr. Doriel, which is a pseudonym.

00:53:25.640 That's not even his real name.

00:53:26.700 Doriel is not his last name.

00:53:28.400 And then you also find out that most of his key leaders of the cult he started and his ex-wife have all come forward and said he's full of shit and that all of this was based in nothing.

00:53:38.000 He doesn't even know what remote viewing actually is.

00:53:40.820 The problem is, is like, OK, in the beginning of our show, we have a quote from David Icke that plays.

00:53:46.240 I enjoy David Icke, but the problem is he has admitted that a lot of his information comes from this moment where he had what almost resembled like a seizure or a stroke.

00:53:55.840 But he essentially is channeling what he called what he said self-identified as ascended Atlantean masters.

00:54:02.860 Now, I'm not saying that you didn't have an experience with something, dog.

00:54:06.040 That is not at all what I'm saying.

00:54:07.340 What I'm saying is, how do you trust?

00:54:09.020 I think he 100 percent did.

00:54:10.300 How do you trust that these things are what they say they are?

00:54:13.260 And furthermore, here's another instance, Joseph Smith.

00:54:15.400 Hold on, wait, Tom.

00:54:16.460 I just want to say through our research, it looks to me like Atlantis would have been this highly advanced but highly corrupt civilization that was destroyed in the floods.

00:54:27.020 If there's any chance of that being a reality, and I'm sure there's a lot of, you know, ideas that you can go into.

00:54:32.340 And but it looks like this was the height of civilization, the height of Nephilim shit.

00:54:38.040 So you mean to tell me that there's a chance that you're channeling entities from an, you know, a place that was destroyed in the floods that might have been the home to all kinds of creatures and hybrids and Nephilim, the offspring of the fall, all these different things.

00:54:52.440 And you're telling me that you trust it.

00:54:54.080 That's the only problem.

00:54:55.060 And the thing about human beings is when something profoundly spiritual happens to us, we are often amazed and don't think at all to question this thing because it's speaking telepathically in my head.

00:55:06.740 You know, it was this pivotal moment in my life that forever changed me.

00:55:09.980 I don't want to go back and question the nature of this core moment that forever sent me in this direction.

00:55:14.700 So I just, you know, maybe he is channeling entities.

00:55:19.260 How the hell do you know they're not lying, dog?

00:55:21.140 I believe you.

00:55:21.760 You talk to something.

00:55:22.500 Yes, but did that something deceive you and you don't want to talk about that idea?

00:55:26.640 I don't think Ike likes to talk about that idea, whether or not he was deceived by these things.

00:55:30.920 And it's often up to the interpreter too.

00:55:33.060 Like somebody can receive some kind of channeled message or have some kind of spiritual experience or whatever, but it's hard to really interpret things that are going into your head.

00:55:42.520 You're thinking, are they my thoughts?

00:55:44.180 Is this, is it this other beings thoughts?

00:55:46.300 And now you're kind of mixing them up and stuff like that.

00:55:48.620 People will talk to God whenever they pray at night.

00:55:50.420 I can't tell you how many times, dude, there was this one time we were like, we were like super fucking broke and our credit score was ass.

00:55:58.280 And, but luckily we found this place to, to like go rent out.

00:56:02.680 Right.

00:56:02.960 And, and, and, and it was like really cheap.

00:56:06.320 There was no down payment.

00:56:07.240 There was no credit check.

00:56:08.020 It was perfect.

00:56:09.020 And this was like a long time ago.

00:56:10.280 It was like 10, 15 years ago, something like that.

00:56:12.440 And we went to the landlord of that place.

00:56:15.140 We met with her.

00:56:16.040 She saw us.

00:56:17.160 And I guess she was like disagreeing with, she didn't like our vibe or something like that.

00:56:21.940 And so whenever we asked her if we could actually sign the, the agreement, she was like, well, you know what, I'm going to go home and pray about it.

00:56:28.300 And, and, and then she reached out to us the next day.

00:56:30.980 Yeah.

00:56:31.300 I prayed to it.

00:56:32.060 And God told me that, uh, that we probably shouldn't go through with this.

00:56:36.360 And in my mind, I'm like, you are, you're, you're blaming God for the decision for not allowing us to come in here.

00:56:42.300 So now, you know, that's, that's the weirdness about, you know, uh, having conversations with what you deem as divine beings, because it inflicts upon what your thoughts are.

00:56:54.860 And it's kind of just merging it.

00:56:56.280 And that's where it gets weird.

00:56:57.800 You know what I mean?

00:56:58.720 So, and we're in a place right now too, where it's like, I was talking about this the other day, you get to this point biblically where people are arguing about the name of God.

00:57:05.480 Is it Yahweh?

00:57:06.200 Is it Jehovah?

00:57:07.040 You know, yada, yada, yada.

00:57:08.300 And what's become very clear to me over the history of our show on Nephilim Death Squad is that a lot of these entities are very real.

00:57:16.480 And it seems like there's a shit ton of them, in my opinion, uh, spiritual entities are very real.

00:57:21.800 And a lot of them are ancient.

00:57:23.300 A lot of them have been around since, you know, early man, and they've been deceiving and placing themselves as one deity or another over another group of people.

00:57:30.460 I think that if you don't have really clear intentions about who you're talking to, there's no telling who's going to respond.

00:57:38.800 That's just my, my take on the whole thing is if you're not, um, if your intention is too abstract, it's too wide of a spread, then you're going to be potentially communing and getting answers and responses from all sorts of things.

00:57:53.900 And also that attempt to commune with them acts as a sort of spiritual, um, consent and it gives them the right, they're now allowed to engage with you.

00:58:03.060 I believe this is, I know this all sounds insane, but after all the studying that we've done, it looks as though even, even communication can be form a form of consent that opens the door to something much larger.

00:58:13.620 And so I think these things are allowed to, given the right circumstances, lie to you.

00:58:18.660 They're allowed to deceive you.

00:58:19.840 I mean, legally within this sort of spiritual lawfare that exists, they are allowed to lie.

00:58:24.240 Is the devil not the great deceiver?

00:58:26.100 Right.

00:58:26.920 Well, I think though.

00:58:28.500 Does Lucifer not present himself as an angel of light?

00:58:30.540 It's like so many things that you think you're talking to are probably not what they say they are.

00:58:35.740 I think that you can actually get a lot of, um, understanding from this kind of stuff within like sleep paralysis, right?

00:58:42.920 Like they say that some people, they wake up and they're super fucking fear driven.

00:58:46.600 Like they're like, Oh my God, I can't move.

00:58:48.420 I'm like trapped here in this body.

00:58:50.020 I can't do anything.

00:58:50.720 If somebody tries to come and attack me, I'm fucked.

00:58:52.820 Right.

00:58:53.200 And so then the idea is, is that your fear is essentially like manifesting itself.

00:59:00.220 And, uh, but then there's also other people who have, you know, uh, have sleep paralysis and stuff.

00:59:05.580 And they're like, Oh shit, I'm in sleep paralysis.

00:59:07.060 I wonder what I can do with this because I hear that this is the best way to ask or project or, or whatever.

00:59:11.460 Can I tell you guys my, my sleep paralysis story?

00:59:14.380 I'll keep it really abridged.

00:59:15.400 Yeah, please.

00:59:16.540 Um, there's one time when I, uh, I learned that my grandmother was having these sleep paralysis

00:59:21.420 experiences and she ended up reading a book, uh, by Whitley Stryber called communion.

00:59:26.860 And it's basically a collection of people's, uh, abductee testimonies.

00:59:32.100 So she found that a lot of those details resonated with her and it really disturbed her.

00:59:36.780 She passed away when I was little, but I heard about the story and was told what the book is.

00:59:40.200 And so I went and sought it out.

00:59:41.800 I ended up reading all these stories that also mirror the experiences of my other grandma.

00:59:47.180 That's not related to her.

00:59:49.160 And I realized like, Oh shit, this is really weird.

00:59:52.060 This is very close to me and my family.

00:59:53.920 So I started asking questions.

00:59:55.400 I find out my dad has had these same experiences.

00:59:57.900 It leads me down this rabbit hole.

00:59:59.800 I'm going to notice that there's such a thing as hereditary blessings and curses.

01:00:03.600 Yeah.

01:00:03.920 There's also hereditary abilities, big dog.

01:00:05.940 Um, yeah, I think I've been, uh, the recipient of a couple of not so great ones.

01:00:09.840 So, um, I start to really latch onto this because it feels so personal.

01:00:14.980 You know what I mean?

01:00:15.660 Like I really love my grandmothers and, you know, so I'm, I'm going down this trail and

01:00:19.000 I realized logically, I say, Hey, I'm spending, you know, unbelievable amounts of time at the

01:00:24.840 computer researching these testimonies, trying to figure out what these entities are, what

01:00:28.980 this experience is, if there is truly a psychological aspect to it, which I do believe there's a

01:00:34.180 function that the body will go into paralysis so that you're not acting out your dreams.

01:00:37.720 I said, it's likely going to happen to me because that's just how dreams and nightmares

01:00:41.240 sometimes work, right?

01:00:42.320 You, you absorb a lot of scary shit.

01:00:44.640 You're bound to have a nightmare.

01:00:45.460 It's not rocket science.

01:00:46.880 So sure enough, it does happen.

01:00:50.080 I'm laying in bed next to my girlfriend at the time, my head's on one pillow, her head's

01:00:55.800 on the next, my eyes pop open and I realize I can't move and it almost has a humorous vibe

01:01:02.300 to it.

01:01:02.640 I'm like, Oh shit, it's happening.

01:01:04.480 This is crazy dog.

01:01:05.440 So I'm, I'm very much in this, um, observation mode, can't move anything but my eyes.

01:01:10.360 So I'm kind of looking around the room and I'm trying to move my fingers and I'm going

01:01:13.460 through this and all of a sudden I see, and I'm not, I'm not scared.

01:01:20.520 I see a shadow walk across my room.

01:01:25.800 And as I look to it, I suddenly feel like someone has slapped me with a taser, might

01:01:31.160 as well have been.

01:01:31.980 And my body locks up even harder than it already was.

01:01:35.420 And I'm full with this, like this electrical buzzing, high vibration.

01:01:41.500 It's resonating through my entire body and it's so intense.

01:01:45.200 It makes me black out.

01:01:47.000 So I wake up again, but I'm next to my girlfriend's feet.

01:01:51.600 But my butt hurts.

01:01:52.500 But my butt hurts a lot.

01:01:53.660 Right.

01:01:54.100 And, and I, I look over to her feet and I'm like, what the fuck is going on now?

01:02:00.420 I'm, I'm facing the other side of the bedroom.

01:02:02.880 I'm still paralyzed and I'm looking at my closet and my closet only has like a sheet in front

01:02:07.980 of it and there's no light source in the closet yet.

01:02:11.360 This unbelievably bright white light is pouring out of the closet and I'm like, what the fuck

01:02:17.900 is going on?

01:02:18.760 And I'm, I'm so confused.

01:02:19.900 And then all of a sudden the electricity hits me again.

01:02:23.980 My body locks up again and I just pass out and I wake up in the morning and you know,

01:02:28.800 nothing ever comes to me.

01:02:29.460 I just wanted to tell that story, Jonathan, because I came into that in an observer's point

01:02:34.080 of view.

01:02:34.360 I did not have any fear and I was still a very logical sound mind of like, oh, the thing

01:02:38.860 that I was worried is going to happen.

01:02:40.500 Not even really worried, expectant to happen.

01:02:43.100 It happened.

01:02:43.880 Go figure.

01:02:44.360 Because I've been looking into it so much, but then something external happens and it,

01:02:48.380 and it brings about a feeling of mortal dread that nothing in my waking life has ever manifested.

01:02:54.420 I've been arrested, I've been in jail, I've been in fights, I've been in all kinds of

01:02:58.440 horrifying situations and nothing has ever manifested that level of fear.

01:03:03.340 It was, it was one of mortal dread that I've never been able to, nothing else compares.

01:03:08.780 In fact, it doesn't feel like it was me.

01:03:10.960 It feels like it was put upon me.

01:03:12.840 Um, if you go into sleep paralysis testimony, you will find that is very often the case.

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01:03:48.560 I wonder if it's a, a sort of a technology, like an infrasound, like, um,

01:03:53.660 there are big cats that can emit such a low growl that it'll, it'll paralyze small prey.

01:03:59.960 So like oftentimes if they come across like a baby, some sort of fauna, that's, you know,

01:04:04.140 an infant, it typically doesn't really run away anyway, but there's a, there's an extended,

01:04:08.880 um, attribute of paralysis that happens when this low growl is emitted.

01:04:12.960 If you've ever heard a gator growl, that's weird as shit.

01:04:17.440 Yeah.

01:04:17.700 Yeah.

01:04:18.080 They do like that belly vibration.

01:04:20.240 That's a way they kind of do a mating call through the water.

01:04:22.160 Yeah.

01:04:22.800 I think that there is levels to it.

01:04:25.820 Um, that listen to this, David, uh, Job chapter four, verse 12 through 14.

01:04:31.340 So, uh, he says, now a thing was secretly brought to me and mine ear received a little thereof

01:04:36.240 in thoughts from the visions of the night.

01:04:38.360 When deep sleep falleth on men, fear came upon me and trembling, which made all my bones to

01:04:44.040 shake.

01:04:44.780 Then a spirit passed before my face, the hair of my flesh stood up.

01:04:49.040 And then he continues to go on and say this supernatural experience, but that stuff is

01:04:53.020 biblical, man.

01:04:53.560 That's been going on for a long time.

01:04:55.560 Yeah.

01:04:56.060 So I know a lot of it has to do with the, the person's state of mind and how they perceive

01:05:00.720 these things.

01:05:01.280 But as somebody who was in it clear headed, it felt very much like it was put upon me

01:05:06.780 as opposed to me having a genuine sensation of fear, just because I've never had it again.

01:05:11.860 And it was accompanied by electricity.

01:05:14.460 It could be both.

01:05:15.180 I think, I think we could do that to ourself.

01:05:16.860 Like this is the state between sleeping and waking.

01:05:19.160 But I also think that, uh, you know, if, if Tesla was correct and if you think about the

01:05:24.100 universe and vibration and, uh, uh, frequency and, and, uh, energy, was it or something like

01:05:30.420 that?

01:05:30.680 Yeah.

01:05:30.820 Something like that.

01:05:31.360 Yeah.

01:05:31.540 But I mean, if, you know, true masters of whatever experience we're going through, I figured

01:05:36.120 out frequency.

01:05:36.720 That's just really all that this is.

01:05:38.080 This is like a heart attack gun, but set to sleep paralysis.

01:05:41.840 Dude, I actually have, uh, probably it.

01:05:43.840 Let me tell y'all.

01:05:44.960 So actually, whenever we came down there for a Bohemian Grove was my first time doing DMT.

01:05:49.860 It was the second night that we were there.

01:05:51.560 I did DMT for the very first time.

01:05:53.920 And the first time I did it, we didn't go to the mini gun range with y'all, by the way,

01:05:57.400 like I'm pissed that we missed it.

01:05:58.840 But at the same time, like this spiritual journey, you can't be there on DMT.

01:06:02.940 I don't think they let you to the range.

01:06:04.160 And yeah, well, the reason why we didn't go is because we stayed up so late.

01:06:09.080 Everybody was talking about their DMT experiences.

01:06:11.140 And then we slept in super late.

01:06:12.540 So we couldn't go to the gun range with y'all.

01:06:13.940 That was really the reason.

01:06:15.240 But anyway, so I did DMT the first, uh, the, the, the first time.

01:06:18.640 And it was like such a very euphoric feeling like, oh my God, this feels so good.

01:06:23.400 It feels better.

01:06:24.500 It's like a thousand orgasms, like how amazing this feels, but it's all throughout your body.

01:06:29.160 Right.

01:06:29.900 And what you typically hear about when people try DMT, it was, it was everything and more.

01:06:34.960 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:06:35.700 It was, it was so, uh, amazing, but it didn't last very long, you know?

01:06:39.480 And so the, I, I guess in my mind, I was like, all right, well, I, I want that to extend a

01:06:44.920 little bit farther because you hear people having these like full on full life things

01:06:50.000 that are flashing in their, in their head in just a matter of a few minutes.

01:06:53.540 Right.

01:06:53.800 And I didn't, I got to experience a little bit of that, but it was, it was not that.

01:06:57.660 And so then I wanted to double it up the dosage.

01:07:00.220 I doubled up the fucking dosage of DMT.

01:07:02.100 And so I went to go smoke it again.

01:07:04.500 And that euphoric feeling was even more euphoric.

01:07:08.580 However, it was so euphoric that I couldn't handle it.

01:07:12.520 And it's very reminiscent of what you're talking about, because just the fact that I couldn't

01:07:16.980 handle the level of euphoria that was shooting throughout all of my soul and all of my physical

01:07:22.600 being, I couldn't handle it so much that it fucking manifested itself into my mind.

01:07:28.120 And what happened was, is that my entire world started to fucking deteriorate.

01:07:32.680 And then I thought, Oh my God, what did I do?

01:07:35.140 This is the worst decision I've ever made.

01:07:36.940 And it was so fearful.

01:07:39.120 It was the scared, the most scared I've ever been in my entire life.

01:07:43.600 Nothing could ever come close to that.

01:07:45.460 I even said afterward that like, yo, the devil and hell ain't got shit on what I just experienced.

01:07:51.260 Like it was the scariest thing.

01:07:53.820 And then what happened whenever it all fizzled away, like everything that was going on within

01:07:57.560 the DMT dream, dude, it was, it was nothingness.

01:08:01.120 There was nothing left.

01:08:02.480 It was just barely even me.

01:08:04.720 Like I, there was remnants of me that were left in, in this like void and, um, and dude,

01:08:11.420 it, it fucking caused me to literally question my reality.

01:08:14.500 And I still do it every, like even still to this day, I'm kind of recovering from it on

01:08:18.120 some shit.

01:08:18.460 But I've, I, you know, I've, I've garnered like a night of Bohemian Grove.

01:08:21.940 Jones is on the corner of the parking lot, just kind of doing his own thing.

01:08:24.940 That's because he was having a lot of introspective conversations that he's never had to have with

01:08:29.220 himself before trying to put his life back together.

01:08:31.360 Yeah.

01:08:31.620 So that first night that we were over there at Bohemian Grove, like that was before I did

01:08:35.600 DMT the second night for the comedy night, dude, I was out of it.

01:08:40.000 Like I couldn't, I didn't even want to talk to anybody.

01:08:41.920 I was just like, there's a strong chance that this is all a simulation and none of this

01:08:46.320 fucking matters.

01:08:46.840 Anyway, that was my actual thoughts.

01:08:49.240 The DMT thing has become, yeah, I think you did go to hell.

01:08:52.420 That's what Jacob said too.

01:08:53.880 One of these potential places, but.

01:08:55.520 Well, I mean, that's what Enoch speaks about, right?

01:08:57.880 And we, we do a show called Nephilim Deskwad Chronicles, where we had a submission eerily similar

01:09:01.980 to what you just experienced.

01:09:03.880 Yeah.

01:09:04.060 They're all smoking spice.

01:09:05.160 Uh, I think that sucked.

01:09:06.740 Oh God, they were smoking spice.

01:09:08.500 Dude, it's so straight in that, put a pin in it.

01:09:10.360 We got to talk about a K2 spice.

01:09:12.000 That's like, yeah, very, very strange before you continue, Dave, I had an idea and I know

01:09:15.860 you guys do these tremendous deep dives, but I had an idea to like both, like me and David

01:09:20.400 do our own research deep dive.

01:09:22.060 You do a research deep dive on a specific subject.

01:09:24.820 We do a show where we all present what we found like a show and tell.

01:09:28.920 But what would you guys be into that?

01:09:30.340 Like a recurring monthly show where we just go like super deep.

01:09:33.880 We'll dive into like some topic.

01:09:35.740 We won't correlate whatever we're researching.

01:09:38.040 We'll bring it all to the table together and then we'll just unpack some crazy shit.

01:09:41.680 Let's go.

01:09:42.480 You give me a time and place, brother.

01:09:43.360 I'm down.

01:09:43.980 Hell yeah.

01:09:44.380 Very cool.

01:09:45.000 Because we have stumbled upon this, this thing with K2 spice.

01:09:48.940 Comes up a lot.

01:09:50.080 Comes up a lot.

01:09:51.280 And in a very short amount of time, it was very strange, like a matter of two weeks.

01:09:54.000 And now it seems like one of the shooters.

01:09:56.720 No, no, the guy that, uh, the guy that set, um, that lady on fire in, in the subway.

01:10:02.160 Oh yeah, in the subway.

01:10:02.780 That was actually where I grew up.

01:10:05.140 Yeah.

01:10:05.320 Right there.

01:10:05.740 I used to work in that train terminal, set her on fire, addicted to K2.

01:10:10.320 Uh, Daniel Penny.

01:10:11.140 Addicted to K2 is a powerful move.

01:10:12.320 Yeah.

01:10:12.840 Daniel Penny.

01:10:13.620 You all remember crisp CBD?

01:10:14.960 When that shit came out, it was like vapable CBD.

01:10:17.640 Yeah.

01:10:17.660 That was getting people all high as fuck, except that was not CBD.

01:10:20.900 There was no weed in that motherfucker.

01:10:22.720 That was the same deets that was in K2 spice with a different flavor.

01:10:25.880 I've got a feeling that there's something, if we, if we do a deep dive on this, we're going

01:10:29.320 to find something nefarious and something very surprising.

01:10:32.140 I'm not sure what it is, but it's just what my gut tells me, but, but I'm already, sorry.

01:10:36.340 I'm already like bowls deep in it.

01:10:38.160 So that the compound, the main one, JWH 018, that was a name that because it's named

01:10:43.880 after John, John W. Huffman of Clemson university.

01:10:47.340 And he was, uh, researching like cannabinoids and shit like this.

01:10:51.020 And didn't he say he was like, you should not smoke.

01:10:53.700 It's his biggest, it's his biggest regret that he stumbled upon this compound because

01:10:57.100 this shit is like putting people in contact with demons.

01:10:59.540 It's why dude.

01:11:00.400 And that's the, that's the testimony that we've been getting back on NBS Chronicles,

01:11:03.600 which is a show where people submit their, their written paranormal testimony.

01:11:06.660 We read it and it's like, yeah, smoke K2, uh, had a demon attached to me for about

01:11:10.520 a decade, no big deal.

01:11:11.900 Uh, and we see that a lot is a weird word to use in this situation, but no big deal.

01:11:17.820 No big deal is also a big thing to use.

01:11:19.400 You had a demon on you for a decade.

01:11:20.880 Yo, that's a solid chunk of your fucking life.

01:11:23.220 No big deal, bro.

01:11:23.940 You got this thing hanging over you.

01:11:25.000 Yeah.

01:11:25.340 Yeah.

01:11:25.660 Not good.

01:11:26.340 Oh, I achieved a doctorate.

01:11:26.900 It took me 10 years.

01:11:27.840 No big deal.

01:11:28.280 No big deal.

01:11:28.620 No, that's not a little bit, dog.

01:11:30.560 Well, to be fair, these people definitely did not treat it like it was, no, but they're like,

01:11:34.120 this is fucking horrifying.

01:11:35.460 My life has been in shambles ever since smoking spice.

01:11:38.000 Um, but I look at people like Rogan with a, with a high level of skepticism.

01:11:42.080 Now, I don't know if you guys have ever talked to Paul Stobbs of Understanding Conspiracy.

01:11:44.920 Yes.

01:11:45.520 Uh, he's the guy that wrote the book.

01:11:46.860 Nephilim Clowns.

01:11:47.720 Yes.

01:11:48.160 And, and he does a great job of, uh, surmising what it is these machine elves,

01:11:53.920 jesters, and things like that in the DMT realm actually are.

01:11:57.540 And, um, he does a great breakdown of it to the point where I'm very willing to entertain

01:12:01.680 that where you go, the realm that you see when you're on DMT, or at least one of the

01:12:06.160 places you may see, seems to be a realm where these, uh, disembodied spirits of the Nephilim

01:12:12.360 are locked in.

01:12:13.800 And they're not always like these, um, horrifying evil demonic things.

01:12:19.280 They're, they're kind of these things that, um, shit on you.

01:12:22.420 They, they make fun of you.

01:12:23.660 They ridicule you.

01:12:24.420 They make you feel terrible about yourself.

01:12:25.840 They also seem to want to offer you either information, knowledge, uh, about yourself,

01:12:31.300 about technology.

01:12:32.200 Oftentimes there are people that come back from the DMT experience saying like, yeah,

01:12:35.660 these things were gifting me shit that I just simply could not bring back here, which by

01:12:39.740 the way, to me, sounds like a tale as old as time.

01:12:42.200 Every time we look to some deity and their relationship with a, with an ancient culture,

01:12:46.040 this deity is responsible for teaching them agriculture, metallurgy, you know, whatever

01:12:50.300 it is, they're gifting technology and information in exchange for something else.

01:12:53.980 I think that Rogan, especially when you consider like his relationship with, uh, with deprivation

01:13:00.320 tanks and John C. Lilly's, uh, findings with deprivation tanks and doing acid and telepathically

01:13:06.200 communicating with dolphins and also jerking them off.

01:13:08.880 I think that there is something really weird happening here.

01:13:12.660 I'm not saying that you shouldn't do DMT.

01:13:14.860 We tell our audience not to do psychedelics.

01:13:17.280 And the reason that I say that isn't because I don't believe that you can explore psychedelics.

01:13:20.300 I just don't know personally where you are, how strong you are in your mental fortitude

01:13:24.840 because yeah, they fucked up Jonathan's whole weekend.

01:13:27.500 I mean, yeah, dude, exactly.

01:13:28.560 Exactly.

01:13:29.080 So I just don't know where people are in that moment.

01:13:31.260 I myself have done a lot of mushrooms, uh, and had experiences that were manageable, but

01:13:36.560 I've heard other people do the same amount of mushrooms as me and then say that it was

01:13:39.940 completely unmanageable.

01:13:41.040 So I don't know, um, where you are in your spiritual journey.

01:13:45.720 And so I call you against it.

01:13:48.260 We don't know where you are physically.

01:13:49.640 Now this is a crazy, I like what, what I think when you take these, uh, psychedelics or

01:13:56.920 these drugs, these, these types of enhancements, like methamphetamine, I think it matters which

01:14:01.140 locality you are in at what you're in physically, like the upside down, the idea of, uh, you

01:14:06.480 know, stranger things where you can go to this upside down realm.

01:14:08.860 I totally think that that's true.

01:14:11.280 That's why these people go to specific ley lines to do whatever kind of, um, you know,

01:14:15.360 rituals they're going to do.

01:14:16.520 They do them there.

01:14:17.460 So I don't know where my audience is at.

01:14:19.580 If you're in Indiana, definitely don't do that.

01:14:21.720 We've been having some crazy stories out of Indiana of people making deals with the entity

01:14:26.800 named ball selling their soul crate, really crazy shit.

01:14:30.360 And not just one, but like a slew of them, I think like, uh, six or seven, six or seven

01:14:35.480 different people, um, unrelated to one another in the same location, generally speaking, the

01:14:41.520 Southern half of Indiana, um, all telling the same story being recruited by some sort of

01:14:47.040 spiritual entity oftentimes and upgraded for some sort of coming war.

01:14:51.560 So that's the idea they're being recruited for a coming war.

01:14:53.600 And, um, oftentimes, or at least, uh, a good portion of them have described seeing a throne

01:14:59.480 room where balls thrown is it's underground in some sort of a cave system.

01:15:04.200 And what's interesting about that is if you look at this area of Indiana, it sits right

01:15:09.340 above the largest cave system in America, uh, stretches all throughout the Appalachian

01:15:14.020 mountains, heads West a little bit and touches right over, uh, Southern Indiana.

01:15:18.860 So to me, I go, there seems to be a correlation here.

01:15:22.100 Um, what's very interesting is somebody hopped in my chat the other day, her name was Robin

01:15:26.200 and she recommended to me a fictional book called Angelology.

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01:15:57.300 And the reason she recommended that is because in Angelology, there are three places on earth

01:16:02.380 where Nephilim and the fallen are gathering their resources and gearing up for war.

01:16:07.400 One of them is Serbia.

01:16:08.920 The other one is China.

01:16:10.580 And the other one is Indiana.

01:16:11.680 And I said, what the fictional book, yeah.

01:16:16.440 She acknowledged it was fictional too, right?

01:16:18.560 She wasn't like trying to say this is Bible.

01:16:20.240 She's saying this is like fanfic.

01:16:20.940 No, no.

01:16:20.960 She's saying it's fictional.

01:16:22.000 Yes, yes.

01:16:22.400 Okay.

01:16:23.420 Indiana, China, and Serbia?

01:16:26.040 Serbia is the one that I'm a little bit uncertain of.

01:16:29.200 There's something else that starts with an S-E-R that might be it, but I'm pretty sure it's

01:16:32.760 Serbia.

01:16:33.860 Interesting.

01:16:34.220 Yeah, yeah.

01:16:35.420 And so, you know, what we're doing here is we're piling up anecdotal evidence, but there

01:16:40.020 happens to be just to the west of Indiana in Illinois is right over the border, still

01:16:44.720 over that cave system, a little place called the Garden of the Gods that has a surprising

01:16:50.120 concentration of cryptid sightings and also has this cave system stretching beneath it.

01:16:55.080 So part of me feels we're actually going to work on a documentary and we're going to

01:16:59.860 go out to Indiana.

01:17:00.660 And obviously, it's like not like we're going to be able to go into this cave system and

01:17:06.120 find the throne room of Baal, which is very interesting that this story keeps coming up.

01:17:10.840 There's a throne room.

01:17:11.900 I think you can go there, but I don't think you can go there without assistance of like

01:17:18.400 peeling that veil behind.

01:17:19.540 I think you can get to the spot.

01:17:21.140 Okay, so you're allowed to like go into those caves.

01:17:22.920 What you're saying is that specific caverns dangerous?

01:17:25.500 No, more or less like there is parallel realms to ours that very much in the way of like

01:17:31.760 stranger things resemble our realm, but are off in some way.

01:17:35.320 I think you'll go there and find a big empty room, but in some other realm that's accessible

01:17:39.740 through some sort of dream state that people are experiencing would actually have a physical

01:17:43.800 throne and an entity sitting in it.

01:17:45.840 So I think if you went there.

01:17:46.820 You have eyes to see it.

01:17:47.620 I'm with you now.

01:17:48.140 So what you would look for is it's a it's a room with incredibly high ceilings and it

01:17:53.820 is the sort of center point where many other tunnels meet up.

01:17:58.640 So I think you probably would go there and find that place and you might find something

01:18:01.900 strange, but not, you know, a nuclear reactor or something.

01:18:06.040 Maybe you might find like a sigil, you know what I mean?

01:18:08.940 Or something like that.

01:18:09.920 But you won't find a dude in a throne there.

01:18:12.280 So we do want to go there.

01:18:14.340 But it's it's interesting that so many people are having the same experience in this little

01:18:19.000 area that there are works of fiction written about it and they're along the same lines.

01:18:24.940 And I would imagine that if you wrote a fictional story about this, one of two things would have

01:18:29.200 happened in order for it to line up the way that it does.

01:18:31.620 Either you would have been inspired, channeled, muses, whatever, what have you, something whispered

01:18:37.720 to you.

01:18:38.100 You thought it was your own ideas or you're basing this off of testimony that you're getting

01:18:42.920 from that area that otherwise would seem fictional.

01:18:45.240 And so you're going, this is this would make a good fictional story or channeling or channeling,

01:18:49.280 which is like we're talking about the, you know, the tablets, ancient whatever.

01:18:53.720 The tablets of thought.

01:18:55.540 Well, the same thing with Stephen King, right?

01:18:57.960 Top.

01:18:58.220 I mean, he's describing something in Maine that he is claiming comes to him in dreams.

01:19:05.640 And Stephen King is a guy who spends quite a bit of time or spent quite a bit of time

01:19:08.920 during his writing years inebriated.

01:19:11.080 But so he's in an altered state of consciousness and he is saying that he's getting these things

01:19:15.860 through dreams.

01:19:17.400 Cocaine, I think it is too, isn't it?

01:19:19.700 For Stephen King?

01:19:20.420 He's doing cocaine.

01:19:21.400 I'm going to be straight up with you.

01:19:22.680 And I know I'm going to piss off a lot of people with this one.

01:19:25.880 Stephen King's a faggot.

01:19:27.160 Yeah, obviously, obviously.

01:19:28.580 But I actually don't think he's a good writer.

01:19:31.000 Like if you actually read it.

01:19:32.160 No, no, no.

01:19:32.520 Look at the story.

01:19:33.760 He could tell a story, right?

01:19:35.580 He is not good at writing.

01:19:37.500 It's overworded and it's improperly worded.

01:19:41.780 He tries using slang out of context to try to sound cool.

01:19:46.380 Like, and you're also writing about an 11 year old gangbang.

01:19:49.340 That's not cool.

01:19:50.400 There's not even just that one thing.

01:19:52.120 Fine.

01:19:52.380 Write that one off.

01:19:53.520 But like, if you actually try to read it as like a reader, it's it's it's like a fucking

01:20:00.420 17 year old wrote it.

01:20:02.200 We're not writing that off, though.

01:20:03.560 We're not writing it off.

01:20:04.320 I got to read it now because I used to read all of this stuff and then I stopped for like

01:20:08.800 10 years.

01:20:09.620 But now I bet you if I go back and read it, I'm like this language is kind of like unnecessary.

01:20:14.040 That was the problem with angelology is like the writer female huge problem and also uses

01:20:19.560 like so much flowery language and metaphor to describe every single thing that's happening

01:20:25.140 that I just can't get like I don't want to get lost in the way that the frost spread

01:20:30.260 across the window like a spider web crescendoing and reach.

01:20:33.000 I don't care.

01:20:33.620 I don't care.

01:20:33.920 I don't care.

01:20:34.240 I don't care.

01:20:34.420 It doesn't always got to be poetry.

01:20:36.940 Go go write a poem.

01:20:38.520 Yeah.

01:20:38.660 It's a fucking book twice the size of the Bible.

01:20:41.120 Like come off of your high horse, you dick.

01:20:43.140 I don't want to hear it.

01:20:44.060 But there is something to that.

01:20:45.920 Right.

01:20:46.120 Because you think about what what Stephen King is talking about, this story that connects

01:20:51.160 right.

01:20:51.420 All these stories lay over there.

01:20:52.860 There's a dimensional aspect.

01:20:54.000 There's some sort of like entity aspect that presents itself as a clown in some ways, which

01:20:59.060 is interesting when you think about Paul Stobb's scenario.

01:21:01.440 But let's go.

01:21:02.040 Let's just dissect that because I'm thinking about our Christmas episode with Brian of Demon

01:21:05.900 Race.

01:21:06.240 So shout out this guy.

01:21:07.300 Love that.

01:21:07.800 Yes.

01:21:08.380 He mentioned.

01:21:09.220 OK, you guys are familiar.

01:21:10.560 He's a fucking star.

01:21:11.540 He mentions this entity called El Kukui.

01:21:14.460 You know, Tony Ferguson, UFC, El Kukui, the boogeyman.

01:21:17.380 And and that's like in, I guess, like Colombian culture.

01:21:20.380 But that entity is related to the cocoa leaf, El Kuko, El Kukui.

01:21:26.020 Yes.

01:21:26.300 And I think that people were seeing this thing because they were chewing on a cocoa leaf,

01:21:31.720 which is, you know, that's where kind of where cocaine is derived from, like the same

01:21:34.880 sort of, you know, same sort of drug.

01:21:38.500 So you'll I think you'll depending on the drug you're doing, methamphetamine, cocaine,

01:21:42.620 liquor, you're going to be open to different types of entities.

01:21:48.980 If you're doing ayahuasca, you'll see like a jaguar woman.

01:21:51.240 If you're doing DMT, maybe you'll see the machine elf.

01:21:53.500 So like they exist on like odd planes.

01:21:56.560 I think it's like if the brain really is a receiver, but not in the way of like a hardwired

01:22:02.420 antenna, more in the way of like a chemical batch that given the chemical makeup of the

01:22:08.060 batch allows it to tune into various things.

01:22:10.700 I think that those chemicals give you access to different, I guess, potential realms or

01:22:17.300 maybe they're associated specifically with entities, you know, so it could be the same

01:22:21.640 entities from the dawn of time.

01:22:23.960 They used to be summoned by chewing this leaf, but now they're summoned by a synthetic blend

01:22:30.760 that you, you know, put in a silver pouch and market as an alternative to marijuana.

01:22:35.800 You know what I mean?

01:22:36.200 Like it's the, I think it's like the same root chemical compound will put you into contact.

01:22:41.100 And I think that's what, what top was saying before too, where it's like, we tell our audience

01:22:45.500 not to do psychedelics in part, because we don't know where they are.

01:22:48.960 I do think that these entities are, they're not omnipresent.

01:22:53.280 They're not like the, the father, the creator, they are bogged down to localities.

01:23:00.400 So that's why like certain islands will have like a certain, a deity that they see all the

01:23:04.940 time or whatever.

01:23:05.520 And that's what they've become associated with, or, you know, in Indiana, they're seeing

01:23:09.160 ball, right?

01:23:09.980 It's like, I think these things are in specific spots.

01:23:13.060 That's like in the, in the Bible, it said that the throne of Satan was in, uh, Pergamum.

01:23:17.980 And it's very interesting because Pergamum is essentially what was ancient Turkey.

01:23:23.340 And what was found there was the, the altar, uh, to Zeus, the, the throne of Zeus.

01:23:28.940 So I think that if you look back throughout history, uh, ball, which I'm, I'm much more

01:23:35.600 comfortable with being sort of a title.

01:23:37.580 So whoever's holding this title now as ball, ball seems to mean King or something like that,

01:23:42.360 which is interesting because Satan means accuser.

01:23:44.160 So I think there is some conflation between actual entities and maybe titles.

01:23:49.840 Um, but ball was once described as the King of storms and Hadad from ancient Sumer was also

01:23:56.420 described as the King of storms and was shown holding what looked to be thunderbolts or

01:24:02.060 lightning bolts.

01:24:02.740 Right.

01:24:03.440 And, um, I think these are really the same entities Hadad, uh, maybe was, or is Zeus.

01:24:10.300 Zeus held the title at some point of Satan, which is why the throne of Satan being found

01:24:15.360 in Pergamum is where you found, uh, the altar to Zeus that by the way, was adopted by, by Hitler,

01:24:20.660 uh, later on his Zeppelin tribune, his speaking grounds were designed after, uh, the,

01:24:26.420 the, the altar to Zeus.

01:24:28.280 Well, there's also more biblical precedents, uh, in Daniel chapter 10, where he's, uh,

01:24:33.300 he's praying to God for wisdom.

01:24:34.480 I think he was praying for like 20 days or something like that, or maybe a full month.

01:24:37.300 Right.

01:24:38.060 And he's kind of like, well, where the hell is my help?

01:24:40.520 And eventually I think it's the angel Michael, right?

01:24:42.920 He comes to him.

01:24:43.860 Uh, is it?

01:24:45.180 Yeah.

01:24:45.420 Yeah.

01:24:45.700 It was the angel Michael.

01:24:46.320 And he said, Hey, sorry, you know, I got held up.

01:24:48.280 Uh, the Prince of Persia held me up for 21 days.

01:24:51.560 And, but I got here.

01:24:52.460 So I was like, so what was going on?

01:24:53.820 Like you were traveling and something held you up.

01:24:57.020 You're an angel, but you, it took you time to get to, to answer this guy's prayer, even

01:25:01.500 though you're in direct sort of direct contact with God that shows that these angels are not

01:25:05.880 omnipresence.

01:25:06.400 They're in localities and they're able to travel back and forth.

01:25:09.360 But yeah, which is funny.

01:25:10.800 It's a little, it's a little counterintuitive because like I said before, when you're amazed

01:25:14.520 by something like a spiritual encounter, you tend to just like dump all your, your, you

01:25:20.080 know, um, whatever, all your money in one spot, you dump all your attention in one spot.

01:25:24.740 And you think for a second that these things are like above and beyond powerful.

01:25:28.100 And it's like, no, they, they have actually a lot of restrictions.

01:25:31.000 He drove here.

01:25:31.880 He had to drive.

01:25:32.440 Yeah.

01:25:32.640 Dude drove here.

01:25:34.580 As far as the texts go, God is the only omnipresent omnipotent, all the things omnipotent, whatever

01:25:40.780 you want to pronounce it.

01:25:41.440 But yeah, angels kind of are restricted by a lot of things and demons are also restricted

01:25:46.580 by a lot of things.

01:25:47.480 Yeah.

01:25:47.600 They've been given free reign to a degree, just like Satan.

01:25:52.040 He is given free reign, but only to a certain point.

01:25:55.260 Right.

01:25:55.380 Like that's, but again, this is, if you do in fact believe in these texts, there's a

01:26:00.180 lot of people that do not subscribe to the Bible.

01:26:01.860 So like, I get it.

01:26:02.500 Well, it's also a lot of interpretation too, because as we, we, we actually just did an

01:26:07.500 episode, uh, it was actually episode six, six, six.

01:26:10.240 And so we gotten in, we got into, uh, Billy Carson on, no, no, we talked about him though.

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01:27:47.640 A lot of the Satanistic beliefs and stuff like that.

01:27:51.000 And what we found was that, you know, Satan isn't a guy that you were kind of, you know,

01:27:55.800 saying earlier.

01:27:57.260 It's one of the names that they say is just an adversary.

01:28:01.960 So whoever you would call, like somebody who was opposing you, that is your Satan kind

01:28:07.460 of thing.

01:28:07.940 And that's why, you know, even in the Bible, it doesn't say Satan.

01:28:11.540 It doesn't say, oh, and then I met Satan.

01:28:13.160 It says, and then I met a Satan.

01:28:16.380 And it's like, wait, what do you mean a Satan?

01:28:18.620 Are there multiple Satans?

01:28:19.800 Or is this just a title that you call somebody that is opposing whatever you're trying to

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01:28:51.020 What was that dude that came on and broke down the Greek language of it?

01:28:55.920 I know the face.

01:28:56.740 I cannot remember his name.

01:28:57.740 He's another biblical scholar.

01:28:59.020 He's a fucking OG where they got a doctorate in the shit.

01:29:01.720 He went on Danny Jones' show not too long ago and was talking about the Greek to Latin

01:29:07.600 translations and all that.

01:29:08.760 He speaks it all.

01:29:09.940 He's a doctorate in it.

01:29:11.040 Very similar to Wes Hoff.

01:29:13.060 Shit.

01:29:13.560 But yeah, he broke down what that meant.

01:29:15.280 Like a Satan, a adversary.

01:29:17.660 Yeah, I think it's a little bit more.

01:29:19.820 We're definitely on.

01:29:20.460 Well, I can't say we're definitely on the right track, but I feel as though we're on the

01:29:23.220 right track with it.

01:29:23.900 But I think it's a little bit more nuanced than that.

01:29:25.700 I think it's actually a role that's necessary.

01:29:29.860 It's a job title.

01:29:30.740 That guy's the one that made the connection between a butt dial and a booty call, right?

01:29:36.760 And how if somebody 2,000 years from now reads an English, they somehow are able to transcribe

01:29:43.660 American English circa 2024, there's going to be some experts saying that a butt dial

01:29:48.840 and a booty call are the exact same thing because this word means this.

01:29:52.300 How can you deny?

01:29:53.500 And it's like, no, dude, language traverses.

01:29:56.180 This word doesn't mean the same thing now that it did 50 years ago, let alone 100 years

01:30:00.640 ago, even in the same language with the same letters and the whole nine.

01:30:03.960 So like the Greek language as the Bible is being written, it changed from time to time.

01:30:08.400 That's why you have to look at the context of it, the time, the place, the audience on

01:30:12.160 every fucking thing.

01:30:13.360 Yeah.

01:30:13.660 That's where we lose so much of it.

01:30:15.160 That's by the way.

01:30:15.840 You can see the detriment to the Tower of Babel being destroyed and all the languages being

01:30:20.840 scattered.

01:30:21.360 It's like, yeah, it will forever be off.

01:30:23.900 But fusion, you know, when it comes to the garden and casting out the Nakash, it's like

01:30:28.400 they it's seemingly the Nakash had a place in the garden, was a respectable creature, you

01:30:34.020 know, was a high level spiritual entity, but crossed a line.

01:30:39.040 And then it kind of brings the question.

01:30:40.420 And it's like, well, was the point to deceive, but not to within bounds, within reason, like

01:30:45.660 the same thing when when God is talking to say exactly.

01:30:49.060 And it's like within bounds, within reasons, you can do this to Job, you can do that to

01:30:52.460 Job, but you're not allowed to do that.

01:30:54.020 And it's like, we talked to an argument.

01:30:56.440 There's an argument as well for the Satan in the book of Job not being like the same

01:31:01.420 that people would think.

01:31:02.300 Yeah, it's like you're talking about because he walks up to God's presence, which we know

01:31:05.900 that that can't happen.

01:31:07.240 And then we exactly so I get into these fights.

01:31:10.420 Christians about the book of Job in particular, it is the oldest written book within the Bible,

01:31:16.660 even though it's not the first book entered.

01:31:18.640 Why is that?

01:31:19.280 How is that?

01:31:19.860 Look, I wasn't at the fucking meeting.

01:31:21.220 OK, but that is the fact that we believe was one of the oral Torahs because there is

01:31:26.700 a written Torah and there is an oral Torah.

01:31:28.760 And they believe that you cannot even begin to understand it unless you have both.

01:31:33.140 There is a theory that says the book of Job was one of those oral Torahs.

01:31:36.840 That was one of those stories that was passed down time and time again that somebody thought,

01:31:39.960 no, no, no, there's real things that we need to add into the book on this.

01:31:42.900 Right.

01:31:43.580 But then like these Christians that take the Bible to be completely as it says, otherwise

01:31:48.740 it wouldn't be there.

01:31:49.520 It's like you understand that that can't happen by God's law.

01:31:53.240 Like Satan isn't going to just fly around the earth a little bit and pick out people to go

01:31:57.900 place bets with God who a doesn't gamble and be Satan is not even able to be in the presence

01:32:05.360 of the all powerful because of the way it's all played out.

01:32:07.980 So it's like you got to understand Job is a lesson and a parable.

01:32:11.220 And then they're like, well, it's never said that it is.

01:32:13.020 I'm like, look at it, fucker.

01:32:15.280 Like, I just wonder if it comes down to a tremendous misunderstanding of what Satan is,

01:32:21.080 too.

01:32:21.400 Yeah.

01:32:21.560 Right.

01:32:21.760 I mean, like, I think there are room for fallen entities, entities that rebelled and were tossed

01:32:26.320 out of God's grace and do break a lot of rules.

01:32:30.120 And I think that we're here to bear witness to it so that they could be judged, apparently,

01:32:34.640 you know, in the end.

01:32:35.280 But I do think that Satan almost seems like a.

01:32:40.260 How do I put this?

01:32:42.180 The nemesis, bad guy, the villain.

01:32:44.860 Well, he's got a job to do.

01:32:46.800 His job seemingly is to test mankind in so many ways and to see if he can present a compelling

01:32:54.700 enough thing that we will choose that instead of God.

01:32:59.140 And that seems to be trying to throw off the timeline, though.

01:33:02.440 Well, that's interesting if you get into like the little season shit.

01:33:04.740 Right.

01:33:05.100 Oh, I'm talking like Hitler.

01:33:06.360 Like, to make the end time prophecies happen, you have to have the nation of Israel.

01:33:10.420 They can't exist if they're all in an oven.

01:33:12.220 So I believe that that was all a part of it, too, because no one knows the Bible better

01:33:15.940 than Satan.

01:33:16.880 No one knows how this story is going to end more than he does.

01:33:20.500 And I think that he is doing everything in his power to stop it.

01:33:23.120 That's why he had Herod kill every two year old in Bethlehem when Jesus was born.

01:33:28.100 That's why he had these other kings from the from the dawn of time do what they've done

01:33:31.740 to certain people, not just the Jews.

01:33:33.720 I believe there is a reason why the world, the political scheme, the war games that are being

01:33:38.280 played right now.

01:33:38.940 I believe there's very, very spiritual reasons why all this is happening.

01:33:43.060 And I think that Satan knows that and he's doing everything he can to throw it off.

01:33:47.860 Hmm.

01:33:48.400 It feels like he's doing everything he can to fulfill prophecy, because like you said,

01:33:52.720 you tried to kill Jesus before he was born.

01:33:55.480 You didn't.

01:33:55.980 And then you killed him anyway, thus fulfilling prophecy.

01:33:58.580 I mean, the red heifer situation, it's like you're just fulfilling prophecy.

01:34:02.560 And it's it's weird to think about.

01:34:04.220 Like, so is he trying to, like, get us there is I really don't understand that job.

01:34:09.820 I think he's trying to stop it from happening, but he can't because, you know, it's going

01:34:13.760 to happen one way or another.

01:34:15.360 But it's like he can't just lay back and accept it.

01:34:18.180 He's got to do what he can.

01:34:19.240 He's got to corrupt mankind.

01:34:20.540 He's got to try to do this.

01:34:21.560 You got to try to.

01:34:22.760 It's just how it has to be.

01:34:23.920 Why does there have to be a yang for the yin?

01:34:26.380 Why must it be?

01:34:27.580 Because it simply must.

01:34:29.720 It's something beautiful about it, too, right?

01:34:31.220 Like if they're, you know, I don't know where Jonathan's at on it, but like if you

01:34:36.980 all over the place, the old place.

01:34:38.580 But if you believe that there is a creator, then he would create this other angel to then

01:34:42.520 do this part where there has to he's he's creating this opposition, whereas God wasn't

01:34:48.580 intended, right?

01:34:49.740 No, it was intended.

01:34:51.400 Yeah.

01:34:51.740 Oh, you think it was?

01:34:52.500 You think he made Lucifer to be his right hand man just to fall to kickstart all of this?

01:34:57.240 I don't think I think the angels fall when they when they accept worship.

01:35:01.220 So, wait, Lucifer was a leader of the worship.

01:35:04.300 He was he was from people.

01:35:07.220 Oh, oh, I think they're trying to emulate.

01:35:09.700 OK, well, you're saying this God created Lucifer for the whole purpose to make it happen or.

01:35:17.140 You could kind of think about it forever, right?

01:35:20.020 I mean, is it the chicken or the egg?

01:35:21.700 Because he creates he creates Lucifer.

01:35:24.840 The job title is Satan.

01:35:25.820 He's in the garden.

01:35:26.820 He tempts Adam and Eve and he's successful.

01:35:29.680 But that's I mean, he gets kicked out of the garden.

01:35:31.720 Maybe he broke some kind of metaphysical.

01:35:33.560 That wasn't his job, though.

01:35:35.000 He wasn't supposed to tempt him.

01:35:36.360 That was after he fell from heaven.

01:35:37.700 That was after he rebelled against God.

01:35:39.380 And a third of the angels fell to heaven or fell to earth.

01:35:42.400 He went into the garden to corrupt God's creation.

01:35:46.000 That's when when did the fall fucking when did the fall happen?

01:35:49.060 Right.

01:35:49.340 Like, did it happen?

01:35:50.440 Did it happen pre Adam or did it happen post Adam?

01:35:53.260 It's like I'm not really sure.

01:35:55.360 Honestly, I've never thought about it because I don't think it it's kind of like, does it matter?

01:36:01.040 Let's say let's say the Garden of Eden was going on for like four thousand years of perfection.

01:36:05.960 And then the fall happened and then Satan comes and tempts him.

01:36:09.220 It may have been a week.

01:36:10.660 It may have been literally seven days later.

01:36:12.300 Like, I don't know.

01:36:13.440 But at the end of the day, I don't believe that he would have created these things to rebel against him just to make these things happen.

01:36:22.340 And I think that that was kind of the point.

01:36:23.960 Lucifer gets here and he's like, yo, I'm throwing the name Lucifer.

01:36:27.520 We know that the guy, the evil dude, right?

01:36:30.640 It's like Jesus slash Yeshua.

01:36:32.560 Bear with me.

01:36:33.100 But I think he got here and was like, yeah, I got to do everything I can to screw this up.

01:36:37.680 We got all these creatures.

01:36:39.140 Hey, all these dudes that I brought down here.

01:36:41.700 I need you to fuck everything.

01:36:43.160 I need you to make babies with literally everything.

01:36:45.060 Animals, humans, fuck a rock if he can make a baby.

01:36:47.780 Like, get after it, dog.

01:36:48.620 We got to screw up this entire program.

01:36:50.900 You know what's funny?

01:36:51.940 This is a little bit off topic.

01:36:53.360 But last night, I'm watching something with my wife.

01:36:55.900 She's watching a TikTok.

01:36:56.560 And it's a woman who is talking about how well she takes care of herself, presents herself.

01:37:04.100 She's had a lifetime of pursuing, you know, all this education.

01:37:08.000 She's successful.

01:37:09.580 But she is touching 40 and just cannot find a man.

01:37:13.800 And what I thought was wild about that was, oh, feminism sold women a bad bag.

01:37:21.200 This idea that you need to pursue this career.

01:37:23.980 Everything is about self-love, self-improvement.

01:37:28.360 And, you know, they have all these little things like not sacrificing your peace.

01:37:32.720 I'm not sacrificing my peace for anybody.

01:37:34.320 It's like a lot of catchphrases that women attach to.

01:37:36.200 And it's interesting because at one point, the feminist movement did have Lilith as a mascot.

01:37:42.020 And it was done under this.

01:37:43.520 Yeah, they were doing it through the lens of, like, sort of this idea that Lilith was Adam's first wife and didn't want to be dominated and rebelled against him.

01:37:53.260 And so in the spirit of that, I don't believe that's actually what happened at all.

01:37:55.860 I think Lilith was something.

01:37:57.560 I think Lilith was likely the first woman to engage with a fallen and allow this, like,

01:38:05.120 so they call her, like, the mother of monsters.

01:38:06.920 I think that's probably more accurate.

01:38:08.420 She was the first woman to basically be the mother to Nephilim.

01:38:12.200 But what I think is interesting about that is everything is about, everything in feminism is so selfish, right?

01:38:19.980 It's all about the self.

01:38:21.300 It's all about preserving, you know, womanhood, not being subjected to the rule of man, pursuing things that build you up.

01:38:30.400 So you're pursuing your career, you're pursuing your education.

01:38:32.860 And unfortunately, now you're at an age where all the people who are interested in romantic love of any sort, they're married.

01:38:39.860 People that were into that are off the table now.

01:38:42.100 They're married.

01:38:42.580 The only ones that are left are people that weren't figuring it out.

01:38:44.520 But I think that when it comes to these entities, first and foremost, they want veneration.

01:38:52.140 They want worship.

01:38:53.720 But they'll accept lesser degrees of it.

01:38:58.380 In other words, as long as you're not worshiping the Father, as long as you're not actually pointing, you know, your energy and trying to align your will with the creator of this universe,

01:39:09.600 then they'll take, I don't know, self-worship.

01:39:13.500 You can worship yourself.

01:39:14.440 That's fine.

01:39:14.920 And that is kind of paganism, isn't it?

01:39:16.520 Because it's like…

01:39:16.980 It's new age Satanism or humanism, if you will.

01:39:19.420 Yes, it's self-worship.

01:39:20.520 And everything right now is about, like, self, self-improvement, protecting your peace, you know, not sacrificing for other people.

01:39:26.940 Like, it's this whole…

01:39:28.440 They're parading it around like it's a good thing.

01:39:30.300 Yeah, they have…

01:39:31.520 What was it, Eckhart in the 14th century wrote about…

01:39:35.880 What was it?

01:39:36.860 It's the thing that y'all talk about a lot, Jonathan, about how all of us have a spark of the source within us and that kind of thing.

01:39:44.180 And, like, we're all the same spirit having a million different experiences at the same time.

01:39:47.500 Well, I mean, Jesus said that the kingdom of heaven is within you.

01:39:50.360 So, same thing.

01:39:51.180 It's not the same thing at all.

01:39:52.700 But, yeah, that's like saying you have goodness within you.

01:39:56.380 The kingdom of heaven, the spirit of God being within you, that'd be your morals.

01:39:59.280 That's the thing nudging you, saying, hey, don't murder people.

01:40:03.040 Like, that's that.

01:40:03.600 It doesn't mean that we're all the same soul.

01:40:05.680 Right?

01:40:05.900 Where were we saying that top?

01:40:06.820 I forgot what show we were on.

01:40:07.720 But it was like, God sent his only son to die for your sins.

01:40:10.560 Will you choose him then?

01:40:11.520 No.

01:40:12.180 What if my spirit resides within you?

01:40:14.660 And is your ever-present conscious?

01:40:16.720 And it tells you to aim towards true and good.

01:40:18.540 Will you choose me then?

01:40:19.500 No.

01:40:19.900 We'll still choose ourselves.

01:40:21.800 They say in the end times, they're going to see with their own eyes the wild shit going on.

01:40:26.400 And they're still just going to be like, no.

01:40:28.700 Yeah.

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01:40:55.040 Yeah.

01:40:55.640 I do think that feminist movement is in alignment with that.

01:41:00.780 It's self-worship.

01:41:01.400 It's basically because if you boil paganism down to its most reductive form, I believe it's just worshiping the creation instead of the creator.

01:41:10.960 That's how you can put it in the simplest form.

01:41:12.320 So whether or not you're worshiping a pantheon of lesser deities or you're engaging in some form of self-worship or if you're somebody whose walls are covered in Star Wars and Marvel posters.

01:41:23.460 And every day you wake up and it's the first thing that you see and you put on your Marvel shirt and you never miss a movie and you go to Comic-Cons and stuff.

01:41:30.000 It's like the same energy that human beings dedicate towards worship is the same energy that then gets funneled into those things.

01:41:37.720 So, you know, even if you're sort of an Andrew Tate character where everything is about like the self and building the self up and, you know, like have sex with a high room of women and don't get married and get the Bugatti and walk around everywhere with no shirt on.

01:41:51.220 And have it like I look, I like working out.

01:41:53.640 You see his tweet for Christmas.

01:41:54.780 I mean, just the guy is on another level.

01:41:56.940 I love what he do.

01:41:58.300 He's doing shoulder presses and there's like a 360 camera and it's like a beautiful Christmas tree and but he's by himself just a load shoulder presses and he's like the real men do shoulder presses.

01:42:07.120 And if you take naps, you're gay.

01:42:08.180 And I'm just like this guy nails.

01:42:09.680 He nails it like whatever he's doing.

01:42:11.900 It's very funny fan.

01:42:12.920 Did he need those human trafficking charges?

01:42:15.440 I never heard anything of that.

01:42:16.620 You can do whatever you want.

01:42:17.780 Hey, Jacob, didn't you know you can do whatever you want?

01:42:20.020 Do what thou wilt.

01:42:20.840 OK, that's the name of the game.

01:42:22.400 You want to traffic a bunch of people and then go on to be a millionaire afterwards and drive a Bugatti.

01:42:26.520 Do what thou wilt, homie.

01:42:27.980 So I don't try to throw shade.

01:42:29.400 I actually don't know how that ever shook out.

01:42:31.160 So the fact that I don't know how that means at least he beat some of it.

01:42:33.920 I mean, he's been tweeting nonstop.

01:42:36.120 I don't know what the hell happened.

01:42:37.380 I just know that he got arrested by Romanian police and they found his location due to a pizza box that he ordered pizza to in a live stream.

01:42:44.860 Go figure a little hint there.

01:42:46.140 Then they put him in jail for a little while.

01:42:50.120 Then he's out of jail mysteriously.

01:42:52.320 And I don't know how Romania works.

01:42:53.980 I know it's a very corrupt country.

01:42:55.980 Romania works like Ukraine worked six years ago, if you're catching my drift.

01:43:00.700 Like they have a government.

01:43:02.280 They have a police force.

01:43:03.700 They have other countries that pay them to do certain things that they can't do on their land.

01:43:08.320 And they're a homie, but by proxy, if you will.

01:43:12.720 It's kind of the Wild West in certain regions.

01:43:15.180 Right.

01:43:15.860 Well, I mean, I just think that those, you know, if we look at the feminist movement and you consider that some form of paganism, some form of self-worship, I think that red pill movement is the same thing for men.

01:43:27.180 Like there is a certain amount of it that is fun.

01:43:29.080 Like I like martial arts.

01:43:30.680 I like working out.

01:43:31.940 I like cigars.

01:43:33.120 I like cool shit.

01:43:34.120 You know what I mean?

01:43:34.640 Like I look, I'm not saying that you have to sit at a long table with all your homies with no shirt on every night for dinner.

01:43:40.920 That's a weird thing that he does.

01:43:42.280 But I think getting together with shirts on with your homies every once in a while at a big table could be a lot of fun.

01:43:48.620 But he's taken it to this point.

01:43:50.900 The red pill movement has taken it to this point where it's like it's the same thing as feminism, but it's for men.

01:43:56.020 And at this point, I'm very comfortable calling all that shit paganism where it's like you're just engaging in self-worship.

01:44:01.120 Yeah.

01:44:01.320 And very gay.

01:44:02.160 You know what I always self-worship.

01:44:03.540 What I feel is kind of like this weird, strange power that people have whenever, you know, whenever you're, let's just say religious, right?

01:44:13.560 Like so people think that paganism is something that is extremely horrible and they're devil worshipers and stuff like that.

01:44:20.860 Really, all a pagan is, is just not a religious person.

01:44:24.880 It's just not a Christian.

01:44:26.660 It's not a Jew or whatever, right?

01:44:28.760 Not a Jew.

01:44:29.900 So and then the Jews have the same thing.

01:44:31.820 Well, if you're not a Jew, then you're a Gentile.

01:44:34.500 And it's like these weird connotations and these weird meanings that are attached.

01:44:38.180 You're either a Muslim or an infidel.

01:44:39.380 Right.

01:44:39.680 It's like, all right, you're either with us or you're literally a pedophile.

01:44:44.080 Like that's right.

01:44:44.800 But I don't think that that's fair.

01:44:46.680 You know what I mean?

01:44:47.300 Like a better word, right?

01:44:48.340 Like, I mean, I wouldn't call like maybe it's not fair to say self-worship is paganism.

01:44:55.860 Your camera's frozen there.

01:44:59.120 I just got a spirit fingers long enough and then it comes back.

01:45:01.260 All right.

01:45:01.480 Yep.

01:45:01.640 There it goes.

01:45:02.180 I don't fucking know why.

01:45:03.500 Maybe you don't have to necessarily maybe self-worship isn't paganism.

01:45:07.780 There's a difference between that.

01:45:08.980 Right.

01:45:09.220 And actually communing with entities that you believe are real and asking for some sort of

01:45:13.420 which, by the way, I think women tend to be pagan more often than men.

01:45:18.100 And I think that's the reason being is because if you leave them alone to their own devices

01:45:21.840 without men to help them build things for them and care for them, they become incredibly

01:45:25.560 desperate, incredibly desperate.

01:45:28.980 I'm going to you're going to piss off some people with that one.

01:45:32.440 And I'm going to just mention before people fucking light their torches and pitchforks at

01:45:37.320 my boy here, understand that demonology, do it, dog demonology written by King

01:45:43.180 James.

01:45:43.700 Yes, I understand.

01:45:44.500 Throw your shade on.

01:45:45.180 I'm fine.

01:45:45.880 Even mentions why they believed in the 1500s, why there were more females of the quote unquote

01:45:53.220 satanic or witch or spiritual thing than men in the Bible.

01:45:57.860 They mentioned that there would be more women that would fall victim to these things.

01:46:01.500 Yes, I understand that was written by Paul and he had a little bit of a fucking issue.

01:46:05.760 I mean, look, we could just explain it on a logistical level.

01:46:09.200 Now, it's very difficult to exist in the wilderness without men, right?

01:46:16.040 Yeah.

01:46:16.500 If something happens, imagine how many scenarios back in the day your village gets torched.

01:46:21.660 The women escape.

01:46:22.980 They create a little self-sustaining group somewhere else in the forest, but they don't

01:46:27.040 have the ability to hunt for food and they start to lose their fucking minds and wither

01:46:32.280 away.

01:46:33.180 A couple of those are going to reach out to some sort of especially when you become that

01:46:36.580 desperate, these spirits will present themselves to you.

01:46:39.220 Oh, for sure.

01:46:39.760 And if it presents itself to you and it offers you something in exchange for something else,

01:46:43.400 do you think that these women are some of them maybe won't, but a lot of them do.

01:46:48.600 Towards that point.

01:46:49.840 And again, this is not towards women because like, fine, the blanket statement that there

01:46:54.400 are more women in these types of thought processes than men.

01:46:59.040 That's not a opinion.

01:47:00.400 That's a mathematical fact.

01:47:01.460 One plus one still equals two in this bitch, right?

01:47:03.240 So that being said, why are all of them led by men?

01:47:07.900 All of these other organizations and religions that blast how females are so much better all

01:47:13.060 have dudes at the head of them.

01:47:14.860 You know what else is interesting?

01:47:16.140 Because guys, dudes, dudes rock.

01:47:18.140 We crush.

01:47:18.700 We crush so hard.

01:47:19.400 That's why every time you trans one of us and you put us in female sports, we dominate.

01:47:23.600 We crush them because that's what we're put here to do is dominate and crush.

01:47:27.040 But look, if you look at the Christian church or the Catholic church, women are not meant

01:47:32.360 to hold high places of spiritual authority, right?

01:47:35.200 It's said in the Bible very plainly.

01:47:37.500 How come when you go to covens, when you go to, you know, the church of Satan, why do

01:47:41.960 you have the idea of like the mothers of darkness?

01:47:44.020 How come when you look to all these other worshiping cults, they allow women to hold high

01:47:49.360 places of spiritual authority?

01:47:51.040 It's because I think women do have a, I don't want to say a stronger connection to the spiritual

01:47:57.180 realm.

01:47:57.560 I think the negative spiritual entities.

01:47:59.780 No, for sure.

01:48:00.660 No, stronger.

01:48:01.740 Well, no, no, no.

01:48:02.360 I mean, listen, this is a question of a chicken or the egg.

01:48:06.440 Is it that they have a stronger connection or do these entities seek them out because they

01:48:10.540 know that they don't have the conviction that men have?

01:48:13.540 Women are portals that literally cultivate the spirit of God inside of their body and then

01:48:19.960 bring it through the world.

01:48:21.180 It's something incredible about what a woman does.

01:48:24.680 I mean, obviously in conjunction with the man, but the man just plays a small role.

01:48:27.940 These guys are the incubators of their portals, not to say like we are gods and all this

01:48:32.660 stuff, but like there's a spirit in everything and they create a freaking life for that.

01:48:39.840 They create a body.

01:48:41.060 It's incredible.

01:48:41.700 So yeah, of course they're more susceptible to spiritual attacks or just spirituality in

01:48:45.800 general.

01:48:46.160 There's something special about women.

01:48:47.420 I love women.

01:48:48.200 I love my wife.

01:48:48.900 This is why I fucking hate the red pill movement.

01:48:51.200 They tell young men, don't get married.

01:48:54.120 Don't seek this kind of relationship.

01:48:55.620 I'm like, no, do do those things.

01:48:57.360 It's a there's a lot of beauty in what a woman could bring to your life.

01:49:01.600 One of the most meaningful things that you could do is is to find someone who you love

01:49:05.800 to have a child to become parents.

01:49:08.160 You know, like that's the most meaningful shit that you can do.

01:49:10.460 But sure.

01:49:11.140 We talk a lot of shit on women.

01:49:12.340 Sure.

01:49:12.660 I say that they're just a set of holes, but I don't mean it.

01:49:14.880 I mean, think about think about women, right?

01:49:19.440 And how much harder life used to be.

01:49:21.060 And you're always behind the eight ball.

01:49:22.860 You're never going to be as strong.

01:49:23.800 You're never going to be as fast.

01:49:24.740 Right.

01:49:25.040 You can't invent things for whatever reason.

01:49:26.420 And so eventually a man invented invented the tampon that my dog.

01:49:31.600 Yeah, that's right.

01:49:34.900 You do you think that there aren't going to be historically, of course, there are.

01:49:38.520 And there's so many moments you can point to in history that'll show this women trying

01:49:43.360 to even the playing field.

01:49:45.020 And to do that, it really helps to have some sort of entity on your side.

01:49:49.300 So you have women who have been, you know, scorned.

01:49:52.880 It's like you look at the feminist movement.

01:49:54.260 They're wearing pussy hats.

01:49:55.020 They're screaming into the sky.

01:49:56.360 Lilith is their mascot.

01:49:58.160 Do you think any of those women, if they were to commune with a spiritual entity, wouldn't

01:50:02.720 take advantage of the fact that it can make them stronger in some perceivable way than

01:50:06.320 men?

01:50:07.300 You know, it's like this when a woman goes on the war path.

01:50:11.200 I and I don't mean goes on a bitch fit.

01:50:14.280 OK, I mean, when a when a woman has been so wronged that she is deeping into digging into

01:50:19.780 the deepest recesses of herself and goes on the true war path.

01:50:24.020 The Bible also says hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

01:50:27.480 And regardless of what entity they are calling upon, I believe these are the types of women

01:50:31.940 that we now call legends.

01:50:33.480 I am talking about Olga of Russia.

01:50:35.500 I am talking about Joan of Arc.

01:50:37.180 I am talking about Boudicca, right?

01:50:39.320 It's not just, oh, well, she was just this one.

01:50:41.480 No, no, no, no.

01:50:42.560 You pissed on the wrong fucking one.

01:50:44.740 And she decided that we will be speaking her name for years to come.

01:50:49.100 The problem is that that type of thing, it's within all of us.

01:50:53.740 It's within all women for sure.

01:50:55.660 But it's not called upon often.

01:51:00.120 I believe it's there.

01:51:01.020 And I believe that that type of righteous fury, when a woman goes on that type of thing

01:51:05.460 and calls upon the spirits of whatever type for righteous means.

01:51:09.040 Yeah, I believe that kind of sets her apart from everyone.

01:51:12.980 But if you if you think about it, like the the idea of like the Bible per se, like that

01:51:19.820 seems to be more of a patriarchal kind of piece of literature.

01:51:23.780 Right.

01:51:24.660 And then you start looking into, you know, like witchcraft books and shit like that.

01:51:30.200 Obviously, more of a matriarchal kind of ideology.

01:51:33.300 But I think, you know, we actually had a guest on here recently.

01:51:37.020 Her name was P.S. Montgomery.

01:51:38.640 She wrote a book called The Summerland and very fascinating point of view, like whether

01:51:44.180 you agree with it or disagree with it, it's a fascinating point of view in which she was

01:51:48.100 kind of transcribing a bit of the Sumerian scrolls.

01:51:52.480 Is it scrolls or tablets?

01:51:53.680 I always get that mixed up.

01:51:54.800 But the Sumerian writings and what she was saying, that's the whole Enki and Enlil kind

01:52:00.040 of story and, you know, which do what you want with that.

01:52:04.600 I mean, I do find it fascinating how multiple cultures across the across the globe or the

01:52:09.600 flat earth have kind of taken that and they they they've made it their own in kind of a

01:52:16.360 weird way.

01:52:16.900 There's different variations of the story, but it's all, you know, kind of the same story

01:52:21.080 across the world in a weird way.

01:52:23.360 But what she was going into is that she doesn't she believes that this is kind of a prison

01:52:28.080 planet, which, you know, gets back to the whole Sumerian tablets and whatnot.

01:52:31.920 And so the idea is, is that basically the the the the God of the Bible is essentially,

01:52:40.960 I think, Enki or Enlil, maybe both.

01:52:43.360 I'm not sure.

01:52:43.940 And that the reason why all of this horrible shit is allowed to happen, like rape and murder

01:52:49.980 and, you know, name your thing, war and all that kind of shit.

01:52:53.240 It's because the creator.

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01:53:24.300 Coded it into this matrix that we live in that kind of like, you know, an all loving God

01:53:30.620 wouldn't even like fathom the possibility of making this even a perception of reality, let

01:53:37.380 alone actually, you know, like physically happening and stuff like that.

01:53:42.740 So it is an interesting kind of way of looking at it.

01:53:45.640 And so like, I don't know, I understand why you would have women coming up with their own

01:53:51.920 story that doesn't necessarily center around that.

01:53:54.380 And maybe they are playing with other forces.

01:53:56.320 But, you know, is it possible that everybody, everybody that calls God, God, are we all

01:54:02.680 talking about like big G or is it little G?

01:54:05.580 Because that can get, you know, a little muddy.

01:54:08.900 I think, you know, how can you know that you're talking to big G and is there even a way to

01:54:14.460 talk to big G like the actual creator of the universe, the omnipresent, the omnipotent,

01:54:19.760 the alpha and the omega?

01:54:20.780 Is there a way to even talk with that?

01:54:22.800 And I think there is.

01:54:24.020 But I just think that maybe it's not what we think it is.

01:54:28.340 You know, like it's it's it's up to everybody's own interpretation.

01:54:32.160 So if you had men back in the day that were trying to interpret this information that was

01:54:36.620 coming from the alpha and the omega, you would probably like, you know, kind of like people

01:54:42.020 who channel you're going to mix a little bit of you in there.

01:54:44.500 And that's probably why you would have men at the helm saying that, well, women can't do

01:54:49.760 this because clearly I'm a man and clearly you're not receiving these messages.

01:54:53.540 Right.

01:54:54.220 And so you can understand like a little bit of the butthurtedness that you would get from

01:54:58.560 a woman that the hell hath no fury like a woman scorned and all that.

01:55:02.700 Like you could understand that because it kind of is up to the interpreter.

01:55:06.420 Now, you could say, well, God speaks in very clear messages.

01:55:10.480 Well, maybe he does to you.

01:55:12.880 But is that meant for the world?

01:55:14.360 I don't know.

01:55:15.140 It's like there's a lot of conjecture here, I think.

01:55:17.320 One of the things that's become really clear to me over time is what you're touching on

01:55:22.980 is like the actual heart of the mystery, I think.

01:55:26.460 And it's that across all these different cultures, they're all telling the same story, but with

01:55:31.040 minor details that deviate one way or another.

01:55:34.120 And for a long time, I was a Yakub in a sense.

01:55:37.260 Right.

01:55:37.400 I was like, OK, Anunnaki, Sky Daddies.

01:55:39.900 Right.

01:55:40.100 Zachariah Sitchin seems to have like a pretty decent explanation of these things.

01:55:43.340 Maybe we were created as a slave race to mine gold for a superior group of entities that's

01:55:48.360 on a planet that's on an elliptical orbit that comes back every so many thousands of

01:55:51.920 years.

01:55:52.200 And for whatever reason, they need gold suspended in their atmosphere.

01:55:55.140 And they created us from, you know, ancient or early monkeys, essentially, in order to

01:56:00.720 be a good slave.

01:56:01.260 That story keeps getting recycled by different people.

01:56:03.760 It's kind of crazy.

01:56:04.680 Different names get attributed, but the aliens need gold, man.

01:56:07.400 Yeah, the aliens need gold.

01:56:08.740 But the thing I think that's significant about the biblical interpretation and, you know,

01:56:12.900 you use a lot of different tools, right?

01:56:14.800 I'm not I'm never saying I don't look at the Anunnaki.

01:56:18.320 I'm never saying I don't look at, you know, what are the whatever the ancient Peruvians,

01:56:22.220 the Inca, whatever they believed in.

01:56:23.380 I look at all those things and I recognize there's a tremendous through line.

01:56:26.660 And so the question then becomes, well, why then is yours the source of truth and theirs

01:56:31.980 isn't?

01:56:32.380 And I would say that and I'm not saying that anybody accused me here of that, but I'm saying

01:56:35.420 that would be a misnomer.

01:56:37.440 There is a tremendous amount of truth within all of these things.

01:56:40.500 It's just mine's a little bit more true.

01:56:42.100 And the reason that it's a little bit more true, I think, is because it has the nature

01:56:46.480 of these entities down.

01:56:49.200 The other belief systems venerate and worship them.

01:56:53.520 And they always want some sort of a sacrifice, by the way.

01:56:55.820 It's always, you know, give me offerings, kill this thing, whatever, whatever.

01:57:00.080 And Christianity is the only one that says these things do exist, which, by the way,

01:57:06.780 for a long time, the church just fumbled that ball, immeasurably fumbled that ball.

01:57:11.040 It was like, let us create that in our doggy.

01:57:13.540 Yeah.

01:57:14.080 Do not take any other gods before me.

01:57:16.020 What other gods?

01:57:16.700 Right.

01:57:17.040 Fumbled that ball miserably.

01:57:18.840 So they could have acknowledged it.

01:57:20.200 Remember when they brought the Ark of the Covenant into the temple of another god and that statue

01:57:24.400 got destroyed by some right there.

01:57:26.620 That means, right.

01:57:27.920 I mean, it's right there over and over and over again, by the way.

01:57:30.820 So if you can address that and say there are other gods, but let me explain the nature of

01:57:38.240 them.

01:57:38.420 The nature of them is that a third of these spiritual beings, they transgressed, they rebelled,

01:57:45.220 they are fallen.

01:57:46.800 And that idea of like, why would an all loving God allow these things?

01:57:53.300 I think our idea of love.

01:57:54.980 Well, he doesn't though.

01:57:55.820 That's, that's the very interesting part about that.

01:57:58.000 It's free will.

01:57:58.720 There you go.

01:57:59.200 That's, that's it.

01:58:00.520 That's why it's all loving, bro.

01:58:02.540 You was all loving and giving us free will.

01:58:04.720 Yeah, exactly.

01:58:05.520 The ones who don't have free will, Jonathan, are those fallen angels.

01:58:08.820 They've accepted some form of worship from God's creation people.

01:58:12.900 And that's when you fall.

01:58:14.540 He's placed them over a certain localities.

01:58:16.300 Every time Israel's had a king, he's like, all right.

01:58:18.520 Like, and they even mentioned in the Bible, it's like, well, you have the king here and

01:58:21.340 then you have this prince, this, uh, this being above him.

01:58:24.620 Yeah.

01:58:24.980 And oftentimes that being will then fall because they accept the worship.

01:58:28.960 So in my opinion, whenever you read the Bible, whenever you see God talk to, um, but when

01:58:33.460 he, right, right in the beginning, he's talking to Adam and Eve and he's like, Hey guys, uh,

01:58:37.440 what are you doing over there?

01:58:38.580 Where are you?

01:58:39.160 They lie and they fumble and they, and they, oh, but, but the woman, oh, but you gave me

01:58:43.820 to her and they blame God and God's like, all right, not cool.

01:58:46.160 And he's like, I'm going to address the snake.

01:58:47.360 And when he addresses the Nakash, the snake, he talks to him and judges him directly.

01:58:51.780 It's not a bargain.

01:58:53.140 There is no love there because there's no free will.

01:58:56.240 Yeah.

01:58:56.700 So when he saw that's a master speaking to his slave.

01:58:59.440 Yes.

01:58:59.680 When you, when you look at the Bible, he always, he kind of has a tendency to ask humans questions,

01:59:04.520 right?

01:59:04.760 Even though it's like when God's walking through the garden and he's looking for him,

01:59:07.520 he's like, where are you?

01:59:08.480 Like, God knows where you are, but it's like you're talking to your child.

01:59:11.440 Yes.

01:59:11.840 It's like, you're talking to your child.

01:59:13.240 Like, what did you do?

01:59:14.820 Why did you do that?

01:59:15.900 What did we say about doing that?

01:59:17.380 But then when he finds the thing that should know better, there was only statements, pointed

01:59:21.860 statements, no questions, go back and look, no questions.

01:59:24.900 Whenever God talks to a spiritual entity, there's no questions.

01:59:27.420 It's statements.

01:59:28.180 He's, he's speaking things.

01:59:29.440 And they're fucking harsh.

01:59:31.220 Yes.

01:59:31.420 They're final.

01:59:31.900 So, I mean, you know, this idea of like, why would an all loving God allow for a planet

01:59:37.220 that is filled with, you know, rape and murder and all these terrible things.

01:59:39.640 It's like, he set a bunch of things into motion and he gave us free will and he went and he

01:59:45.400 just let it all play out.

01:59:46.660 And it's like, there is a lot of different attributing factors, our own willingness to

01:59:51.920 engage in self-worship and sin instead of choosing God.

01:59:55.080 But also there are these entities that he also gave some sort of high place to and then

02:00:00.140 rebelled against him.

02:00:01.040 And now they're all.

02:00:02.140 So it seems like.

02:00:04.700 The nature of God, what you're explaining, the nature between God, big G God and these

02:00:08.980 small G gods.

02:00:09.780 What is the difference?

02:00:11.040 Well, the difference would be that.

02:00:12.460 These things are not number one, not our creators.

02:00:17.940 So that that's like the the I do think they're capable of lying.

02:00:21.600 And I do think that what they seek to do is to pervert, invert God's creation.

02:00:26.880 If they can convince us that we were created as a slave race, it would answer a question.

02:00:32.360 Why are we so unique here on this planet?

02:00:34.260 But then it would also demoralize us like, oh, we're not special.

02:00:37.320 We're not meaningful whatsoever.

02:00:38.520 We're actually just slave monkeys meant to harvest gold.

02:00:42.140 But, you know, a lot of people, they'll they'll tell me, especially on Twitter, oh, you believe

02:00:46.600 in your book and your religion and you don't believe in the other ones.

02:00:49.760 And it's like, no, I do believe in the other ones.

02:00:51.640 I just think that they're missing some very important key details.

02:00:54.240 Like, I believe that the Vedics, you know, the the the Indian religions are dealing with

02:01:00.360 a real pantheon of of blue gods with multiple arms and shit.

02:01:03.580 I believe those entities exist.

02:01:05.320 Maybe used to be more physical.

02:01:06.780 People certainly do exist in a spiritual realm.

02:01:09.060 Have you looked at the Hindu creation story?

02:01:10.840 It is fucking wild.

02:01:12.820 Yeah, dude.

02:01:13.860 So, I mean, I think same thing with the Greek pantheon.

02:01:16.420 I think they exist.

02:01:17.700 I think that they but you you have the nature down.

02:01:20.580 I don't think Zeus created us from clay.

02:01:24.040 I think God created us from dust and that Zeus is one of the fallen.

02:01:28.320 So it's it's what does Zeus require from you?

02:01:30.820 And what does God require?

02:01:31.740 God sent his own son to die for you.

02:01:35.840 All these other things require that you sacrifice to them.

02:01:40.280 Yeah, that is the key component that's missing with these other religions.

02:01:44.780 They all need something for you.

02:01:46.460 They're all harvesting humanity for something.

02:01:48.760 I don't know why you're saying this.

02:01:49.740 I had I actually watched it was like a five minute YouTube video where it was like,

02:01:52.940 all right, every religion on Earth, if you were to line them up and there's a mountain,

02:01:57.540 the peak of this mountain is enlightenment, heaven, brahmed, the next out of the state of reincarnation, whatever,

02:02:06.920 whatever you're trying to achieve.

02:02:08.460 The pinnacle goal here is that the very peak of this mountain and everybody take off.

02:02:12.920 Christians are the only ones that would not step foot on the mountain because we know we will never get there on our own.

02:02:20.000 It's impossible for us as humans to reach that tip the top of the mountain.

02:02:24.120 There's no way.

02:02:24.960 But they keep giving us original sin.

02:02:27.460 This is that's the first thing to it.

02:02:29.440 We don't have to teach a child how to lie.

02:02:31.300 We don't have to have to teach a child how to steal.

02:02:33.340 We have to teach them to tell the truth and be honest.

02:02:35.660 That's indicative.

02:02:36.640 That's human nature.

02:02:37.640 It's built into us.

02:02:38.680 It's OK.

02:02:39.160 God knows he made us that way.

02:02:40.960 But we also accept that that sacrifice that is not asked of us was already paid.

02:02:47.520 So I think what we're seeing here when it comes to other religions and Christianity,

02:02:51.420 they are all telling the same story.

02:02:54.060 But there is a lie that it hinges upon that comes from these other things.

02:02:58.540 And, you know, it's it's really a tale as old as time.

02:03:01.420 If they're going to roll out disclosure and they're going to show us some, you know,

02:03:05.700 we came here to talk about Cliff High December 3rd disclosure.

02:03:08.180 So this is the part, I guess, the last.

02:03:09.780 I guess so.

02:03:10.420 Yeah.

02:03:11.180 Let's say that we are moving towards disclosure.

02:03:13.980 Our own government is going to reveal to us that there is some sort of exterior entity

02:03:18.800 outside of humanity and it's playing a role one way or another.

02:03:21.960 Well, what do we have that gives us some idea about what they might be saying?

02:03:27.300 We only have Hollywood, right?

02:03:30.680 Whatever Hollywood's told us that these things are, because otherwise it's been obfuscated and

02:03:35.040 hidden and kind of lied about.

02:03:37.500 But we all have this narrative that we're pretty comfortable with as far as like our

02:03:41.000 potentially benign space brothers come to stop us from mutually assured nuclear destruction.

02:03:46.000 Maybe they seem to have a real interest in nuclear facilities.

02:03:49.420 Right now you have this drone incursion over Picatinny Arsenal, over the nuclear facilities

02:03:53.760 in New Jersey.

02:03:54.880 If that does go where this guy that I mentioned, Cliff High, says that it's going, we might be

02:04:00.160 seeing that soon.

02:04:01.640 And he believes that's a spiritual thing.

02:04:05.380 There's it's a complex thing.

02:04:08.040 Right.

02:04:08.520 The Elohim worship cult.

02:04:10.640 That's what he calls the Jews.

02:04:12.020 He calls the Jews the Elohim.

02:04:13.540 I thought I was calling the drones.

02:04:14.800 I'm sorry.

02:04:15.300 I was like, no, no, no.

02:04:16.100 Well, you know, drones, the drones, the drones are a precursor.

02:04:19.560 So like, again, the day of Bohemian Grove, the first day, Trump goes on Rogan show.

02:04:26.220 There's an interview that is the temporal marker that WebBot predicted.

02:04:29.760 It scrapes the Internet for predictive linguistics.

02:04:31.540 And it turned out that result in 2009.

02:04:34.380 He didn't know where to put it.

02:04:35.560 I showed you the picture of the remote viewer that did the drawing.

02:04:38.980 He thought it was happening in 2020 with the Biden debate.

02:04:42.640 Didn't happen.

02:04:43.600 Turns out it happened in 2024.

02:04:45.360 That's a temporal market marker in which 39 days later will be shifting into something

02:04:50.680 called sci-fi world, and that will be marked by something called that he's describing as

02:04:56.500 a melee in the skies.

02:04:57.660 Right.

02:04:58.100 And that's popping off of December 3rd.

02:05:00.020 Was there a melee in the skies December 3rd?

02:05:02.140 No.

02:05:02.840 But on December 3rd, I can go back to my messages when David was texting me, sending me videos

02:05:07.220 of drones or he was calling, we were calling them UFOs right away over his hometown in New

02:05:12.340 Jersey.

02:05:12.860 He's getting the shit from Facebook.

02:05:14.000 So I'm like, oh, there's something in the sky.

02:05:16.060 So something popped off December 3rd when this guy said it would happen.

02:05:19.540 And here we are.

02:05:21.240 I think we're on the brink of it.

02:05:22.300 They've already given orders.

02:05:23.660 They're like, shoot these things down.

02:05:24.760 So there's your melee in the skies.

02:05:26.680 And melee is defined as...

02:05:28.360 I actually have the definition here, Top, if you haven't put it up yet.

02:05:30.740 Go ahead, please.

02:05:31.540 Please do, because this...

02:05:33.240 Have y'all heard of the new weapon system America's developed?

02:05:35.620 No.

02:05:36.260 No.

02:05:36.500 Tell me the definition of melee real quick.

02:05:38.820 Well, this is going to be...

02:05:39.620 I don't think this is going to be playing necessarily into what you're alluding to, but Cliff

02:05:43.440 High, this is his given definition of melee.

02:05:45.680 So it's not the actual definition of the word.

02:05:47.220 It's his given one.

02:05:47.960 When command is absent within active contention, so something is happening, there's contention

02:05:54.920 happening, but there's no command structure.

02:05:57.180 And that results in individuated decisions, individuals calling shots where there is no

02:06:02.860 boss above them, and that produces chaos.

02:06:05.720 So essentially, you've chopped the head of the control structure off, and nobody is answering

02:06:10.680 to anybody.

02:06:11.400 There's contingency plans.

02:06:12.620 There's all kinds of people trying to fill that power vacuum, and they're just pulling

02:06:16.960 triggers, and that's causing chaos.

02:06:18.660 Gentlemen, gentlemen, buckle in, brace yourselves, because I don't think that could have been

02:06:25.740 laid out any more perfect.

02:06:27.580 Now, again, for two seconds, two seconds, remove extra entities and glowing orbs for just

02:06:35.380 two seconds.

02:06:35.880 I'm not denying that they're there, but this also could be something that the American

02:06:40.620 government's developing for that.

02:06:42.900 Maybe?

02:06:43.280 Just hear me out.

02:06:45.080 They have just successfully test fired the newest bomb, and I couldn't tell you the name.

02:06:49.460 It's the XR numbers and letters and stupid.

02:06:52.420 Yeah.

02:06:52.600 Basically, what this is, is a bomb that is going to be able to be dropped from either a B-52

02:06:57.600 or from a fighter that, once it drops, it expands to, like, five to ten different drones that

02:07:06.420 are all now on a kamikaze mission geared by AI to attack whatever the fuck that plane just

02:07:12.580 told it to attack.

02:07:14.020 Whoa.

02:07:14.460 So, we have aeronautic combat devoid of command that was sent at one point in time, but once

02:07:22.140 it drops the bomb, those drones are doing the fuck the drone shit, right?

02:07:26.000 So, that could be used to take out swarms of drones, could be used to take out another

02:07:31.680 fighter, you know what I mean?

02:07:32.760 It could be for whatever reason, but seeing as how the United States just developed a brand

02:07:38.220 new bomb that apparently, like, it's not something they threw together in their basement.

02:07:40.940 They've been working on this shit for a while, apparently, as if they knew that drone swarming

02:07:45.980 was going to be a thing one day.

02:07:47.780 By the way, Elon Musk tweeted about that, like, two years ago.

02:07:51.040 He said, um, the future coming drone wars are going to blow people's minds.

02:07:56.200 Yeah.

02:07:56.500 That tracks, though, Jacob.

02:07:58.500 Does that sound like aeronautic melee to you?

02:08:01.020 Yeah.

02:08:01.300 And this is the thing.

02:08:02.120 It's like, it is extraterrestrial, but it is also governmental.

02:08:06.340 If you look back to when we experienced these, the alien phenomena, it's always like

02:08:10.760 57 Roswell, the nuclear era, all the time around military bases.

02:08:16.020 Whenever there's like a, I had, I hadn't pulled up before, but there's instances of possible

02:08:20.580 nuclear war where someone's going to press a button and it's like four, at least four

02:08:23.880 instances where the, the weaponry has been shut down in some form or fashion by UFO.

02:08:29.060 And that's just documented.

02:08:30.500 That's Project Blue Book.

02:08:31.860 So I thought that the UFO armed it.

02:08:34.460 Oh, I think, yeah, it was, it was messing with it for sure.

02:08:38.280 It was like that video where it like shoots a laser beam, like it shoots a beam at the,

02:08:42.380 at the, the weapon.

02:08:43.220 But, you know, I don't like this sort of language because one element to this drone incursion

02:08:49.720 that is becoming pretty prominent is the idea that there, um, there is missing radioactive

02:08:55.660 material, nuclear material of some variety came into Newark port.

02:09:00.280 Uh, the shipping container was damaged, opened, and the radioactive material was missing.

02:09:05.460 And people in the know that are in the military say that from their standpoint, the drones appear

02:09:11.800 to be looking for something.

02:09:13.520 And are they using a sort of radar that doesn't require daylight, right?

02:09:19.260 So whatever they're searching for, it's not just on a basic optics.

02:09:21.600 It's some sort of a radar.

02:09:22.620 They're searching for traces of something, potentially they don't need to operate during

02:09:25.760 the daytime for this.

02:09:26.800 And so all the incursions are happening at night.

02:09:29.180 I mean, there is some that happened in the daytime, but there's also hoax is it's bipartisan.

02:09:33.980 That's why it's so nerve wracking.

02:09:35.880 Both sides of the aisle, regardless of whatever are all in on.

02:09:39.620 It's just going with the narrative.

02:09:41.040 There's nobody at the top questioning it.

02:09:42.900 And I don't think that there, I don't think that it is a hoax though.

02:09:46.080 I think that that story actually is right.

02:09:47.780 That the drones are trying to track something because if you go back to the story of,

02:09:52.620 cover up, the cover ups, bipartisan, not the hoax.

02:09:54.680 Sure, sure.

02:09:55.460 But if you go back to the story, have you guys followed Chris Bledsoe?

02:09:59.940 No, I'm not familiar with him.

02:10:01.060 So he wrote a book.

02:10:02.000 Bledsoe Said So?

02:10:02.660 Well, that's the name of his son's podcast is called Bledsoe Said So.

02:10:05.800 But if you, Chris Bledsoe, his dad, he wrote a book called The UFO of God.

02:10:11.100 And basically like what all these people are seeing, like all these orbs and everything

02:10:14.880 in the sky now, that shit was happening to him like 12, 14, 15 years ago.

02:10:20.340 And he, like, I guess he got a story from this entity that came down in one of these

02:10:26.940 orbs and told him like a prophecy of something that was getting ready to happen.

02:10:31.360 And that prophecy was that towards the end, I think it was the end of 2024, literally,

02:10:37.480 that there would be something that would, that would be happening on the East Coast, that

02:10:41.640 there could be some kind of chemical or some kind of weapon of mass destruction that would

02:10:45.760 be coming here and that that would happen.

02:10:48.700 But also the orbs, the entities, whatever he was speaking with, that they would be there

02:10:53.780 to prevent some kind of weird outbreak.

02:10:56.140 Right.

02:10:56.600 And it, dude, it fucking matches up.

02:10:58.680 That's the thing that makes me afraid, Jonathan, because I'm like, you create, it's problem

02:11:01.820 reaction solution, right?

02:11:04.060 Hegelian dialect.

02:11:05.440 And well, he believes that it is God, though.

02:11:07.500 I will say that.

02:11:08.360 Like, he believes that he's conversing.

02:11:10.020 He's a Christian.

02:11:11.640 Uh, Baba Vanga predicted in 2025.

02:11:14.360 He's the guy that has a book called UFO of God, because I'm like looking through his

02:11:17.700 Twitter right now.

02:11:18.140 Yeah, that's it.

02:11:19.000 Oh, he's been on Fox News before, dude.

02:11:21.160 Chris Bledsoe's been around for a little bit.

02:11:22.800 He's fucking awesome, dude.

02:11:23.860 Baba Vanga, who is that like babushka old psychic lady?

02:11:27.200 She died a long time ago, but she's famous for predicting 9-11, the death of Princess Diana.

02:11:31.300 She also successfully predicted her own death down to the day.

02:11:35.320 She predicted that we were going to have alien contact in 2025.

02:11:38.700 Alice Bailey, in conjunction with the works of Helena Blavatsky, came to the conclusion

02:11:44.240 that 2025 was going to be the beginning of a golden age, which is interesting because

02:11:47.800 that's the same language that Trump has used recently to talk about what's coming, says

02:11:51.880 that 2025 A.D. is going to serve as the age of Aquarius, which if you're paying attention

02:11:57.820 to, you know, people who are steeped in the occult, yeah, the age of Aquarius has been

02:12:01.680 on the horizon for some time, but also that this moment in time, 2025, would be marked by

02:12:08.340 the return of Christ somewhere after 2025.

02:12:12.400 There are a lot of people that are predicting that 2025 is going to be of some sort of consequence.

02:12:18.480 2009 or 2008, an FBI guy, I don't know, is some sort of a whistleblower, is interviewed.

02:12:25.980 I got to find the video on it, but he's basically saying that this whole alien discussion, he's

02:12:31.540 saying this back in 2008 or 2009, is going to come to a head and finally be revealed in 2025.

02:12:37.700 So, I don't know the exact nature of these things. I have some ideas. I think that, you know, we're

02:12:47.240 talking about the Hegelian dialect, this idea of like creating a problem, waiting for the public to

02:12:52.760 clamor for a solution, and then providing one to them. Cliff High, the guy who has this predictive

02:12:59.400 program, says that there's going to be two elements of UFOs involved in this. There's going to be a human

02:13:04.360 element, drones, and then there's going to be two alien factions. One of them is good and one of them

02:13:08.800 is bad. And the bad ones, he said, are likely going to be the greys. And what I find significant

02:13:13.120 about that is I think the greys are automatons. I think they're biologics. They're biomechanics.

02:13:19.420 They're not real. They don't have reproductive organs. They don't have emotions. I think they

02:13:23.060 might be suitable for spiritual entities to inhabit to some degree to be able to execute physical jobs

02:13:28.760 within our realm. But I think that that's pretty much where the buck stops from them. They're just

02:13:32.540 automatons. What would be fascinating is if we do have the good aliens destroy the automatons,

02:13:40.120 who, by the way, we would never accept as saviors because why do they take us against our will in

02:13:44.760 the middle of the night? Why do they experiment on us? Why do they abduct people who seemingly never

02:13:49.080 come back? There's all these horror stories. People are not pumped about abductions. Especially not from

02:13:54.620 the gray aliens. Right. So we would never have accepted them as good guys. What if you had these

02:14:01.840 things that belong to you that executed all the shit that is your will, but never seeing you do

02:14:09.620 that? They only the humans only see the greys do it. What if you then destroyed the greys and said,

02:14:15.060 look, we killed the bad guys. We're here to help you. Not only from them, but also to stop this

02:14:19.840 nuclear thing. We could be, by the way, Cliff thinks that after this happens, all the world religions are

02:14:25.300 going to fall away and consolidate under this alien religion. I can't really think of a more impactful

02:14:33.120 thing that you could do to the public. It's like you pull the veil back. There are aliens. There are

02:14:37.060 bad aliens. We're on the cusp of nuclear war. Everything is chaos. Who saves us? These guys.

02:14:41.980 What do they do? They then give us zero point technology. They then help us to elevate. I don't

02:14:48.220 know if you guys have ever seen childhood's end where basically aliens show up. They hang out in

02:14:54.360 the skies for some time. They tell us that they're here wishing us well. Everything's good. They give

02:14:58.580 us technology and new systems. We live in a utopia. They will not show themselves to us until a promised

02:15:04.360 date years in the future. And when they finally do show themselves to us, they look like fucking Satan,

02:15:09.580 you know, so big, greasy red demons with horns and shit. And I'm not saying that that's what's going to

02:15:14.140 happen here. But we would, especially at this point in the game, everything is so full of turmoil and

02:15:21.940 uncertainty. If you dialed that up anymore and you gave us real shit to fear on a real horizon that's

02:15:28.080 in the near future. And then we had this savior force roll in. I hope to God that's not what we're

02:15:34.240 rolling towards because it would work so well. But isn't that but isn't that exactly what happened

02:15:40.100 around like kind of like it rhymes a little bit what happened like 2000 years ago, right? Like there seemed

02:15:47.840 to be some kind of entity that came from the sky or the heavens. And there was some kind of savior that

02:15:54.540 brought everybody together, right? Like it seems like the story is repeating. You'll get these elements. If you

02:16:01.180 look at this long enough and you believe if you look at things through the lens of these entities are real and

02:16:04.800 they are the fallen, you'll notice what they like to do. And what they like to do is take things that are

02:16:09.900 God's laws and principles and flip them on their head. So at the at the beginning of at the beginning

02:16:14.980 of the tribulation, which is a kind of like when all this stuff is going to pop off, they're going to

02:16:19.420 erect that third temple. And that's when they'll start some forms of sacrifice, which were specifically

02:16:24.600 asked to not happen anymore after the new covenant. But so this is again, it's like, what are they going

02:16:29.680 to ask me? And Jesus asked for you to worship, but he doesn't ask for your sacrifice. He did that for

02:16:34.720 you. So it's like, again, it's this is the complete opposite. But go ahead. Look at

02:16:39.680 Hitler's Germany as far as what would happen if OK, Germany was in shambles. No answer. There's

02:16:45.340 this one dude that was saying a lot of really powerful shit and he got people on their side.

02:16:49.320 Next thing you know, we have an entire occult following and they're trying to take over

02:16:53.040 the world. Right. OK. In the end times, we're going to have one world government, one world

02:16:57.460 currency, one world religion. What do y'all think? Now, for the longest time, humans have thought

02:17:03.420 that that meant nuclear war. And from the ashes, there's going to be a slave and a master

02:17:07.780 type of dynamic or they thought something along those lines. But is it crazy to think that some

02:17:12.660 at least letting us believe that they are aliens comes down, sets up themselves to be the hierarchy

02:17:20.260 here, gives us technology. Now all countries answer to them. We no longer have borders because it's no

02:17:26.900 longer our land. We are completely under them here because without them, we wouldn't be doing

02:17:31.540 anything we're doing. Cut to a couple of decades down the road. We only are accepting alien dollars.

02:17:36.740 We're only speaking alien language. We're only talking about the alien holidays because American

02:17:40.940 culture is so antiquated, dude. Are you kidding me? Let me tell you. You're still rocking the red,

02:17:44.920 white and blue, bro? God, what is this, 2022? Jeez.

02:17:48.420 So here's what WebBot predicts about sci-fi world because you just basically read my show notes here.

02:17:54.900 Number one, the introduction of zero point energy. This is not a prediction. This is just what

02:18:01.100 so again, it predicts Donald Trump, pivotal moment, melee in the skies, introducing sci-fi world. Sci-fi

02:18:08.500 world entails introduction of zero point energy, an intergalactic network. So the concept, it's like

02:18:14.760 a concept of a cosmic web or the Akashic records. Have you ever heard of the galactic federation of

02:18:19.680 light? Yeah, this shit, this gay shit. This is what it's introducing. And most importantly, the revival

02:18:25.720 of an ancient, ancient language. And it goes as far as to deduce that the name of the language is going

02:18:30.700 to be a Hurrian or something like it, which is a near, near Eastern language that's tied to

02:18:35.620 metaphysical understanding. It's modern day Turkey. If you look at it, but yeah, it's a, it's, if you

02:18:42.100 look at it up, it's, it's on like uniform tablets. It's like that old kind of a deal. But yeah, I mean,

02:18:46.900 that's just, to me, it feels like that's right on the horizon. And you know, what's interesting?

02:18:51.180 It's like, I just listed all these people, right? Alice Bailey and Helena Blavatsky and Donald Trump

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02:19:57.540 If it's Christian or it's Gnosticism or it's, you know, some other form of a, everything is kind of

02:20:03.580 pointing to like this moment as being something really significant. And I recognize that I've,

02:20:09.180 I've been a conspiracy theorist for a long time. There are certain moments that come to pass.

02:20:12.620 Everybody drink I've been into since I was 16 years old. Uh, there are certain moments that

02:20:17.000 come and pass, right? Like 2012 was a big one. We were all kind of hyper-focused in on that or like

02:20:21.480 the Y2K scandal. There's yeah, 20, but there's something about this moment where like, it's not

02:20:29.900 just chatter on the internet. It's like historical, you know, people in the know mystics throughout time,

02:20:37.460 all pointing to this one moment and not only pointing to this one moment, but they're all saying

02:20:41.480 something very similar about aliens, potentially aliens, the return of Christ, uh, this golden

02:20:47.820 age, the age of Aquarius. Like this is, it's a very pivotal, something very pivotal moment there.

02:20:54.460 Yes. And that's the other thing too. Yeah. The Kali Yuga, which by the way, is supposed to end by

02:20:58.020 fire. It's a spiritual and intellectual low point that we're in. Yuga just means age Kali is, is,

02:21:03.040 is a Vedic God, but, um, it ends by fire, which is interesting because in the Bible, it says that when

02:21:08.820 God judges the world, it won't be up by water again. He promised not to do that next time it'll

02:21:12.820 be by fire. So I think a lot of these things are all pointing to the same exact moment. But once

02:21:19.040 again, it's like the, the nature of the moment is the most important thing. We're going to go through

02:21:25.200 something and dependent on what your point of view is, it will vindicate your beliefs. That's,

02:21:29.660 what's really fascinating about this time that we're in. It has this ability to vindicate your

02:21:33.480 beliefs. If you are well-read enough, because I think a lot of, um, casual Christians are going

02:21:39.860 to fall away. A lot of them, a lot of casual Muslims are going to fall away because they don't

02:21:44.080 have, you know, we have extra canonical texts that give us all this extra potentiality. It's not

02:21:51.000 something that you should put all your stock in, but it does give you a lot of interesting things

02:21:55.280 to chew on. My viewpoint as a Christian, which is a non-religious Christian, I don't, I don't go to

02:22:00.380 church. I think that the church has dropped the ball in many ways. I don't feel uncomfortable with

02:22:04.380 this at all. We were able to see this coming. Um, and it never jived or, or fucked up anything

02:22:12.040 that I suspected was true. It all kind of goes along. So I think this will be the truth for a lot

02:22:18.000 of people. The only thing is the nature of it. What are the nature of the nature? There's only one

02:22:23.600 truth, right? There's like, there's ultimately, this is not like a postmodern idea. That's why I

02:22:28.600 depart. So many people disagree with you, bro, that there's not just one truth. I mean, it's

02:22:33.380 well, the problem is, is there's not just one truth. If you think that things that rhyme with

02:22:38.940 the truth are the truth. Yeah. Something is more true than, than the other though. I, I, so yeah,

02:22:43.540 these things can be true and I'll, I'll grant people this all day long, but there's one thing

02:22:48.720 that is more true than the other. And we're at, we've been scraping and searching for that thing.

02:22:53.020 I think we found it. Um, some people disagree and that's fine, but we're, I'm still continuing

02:22:57.600 to look. And the more we continue to look, the closer I get to what I think is the truth.

02:23:03.360 And that just happens to be God. So that's like, that's where this is leading me. Right.

02:23:06.600 But those ultimate truth though, because like two fighters enter the ring, believing they are the

02:23:11.440 champion. There is going to be one of them that is more true than the other. And I, I'm sorry that

02:23:17.240 that doesn't feel right. But up until, up until that point, everybody is all just belief. And there

02:23:24.500 is no way of absolutely knowing, like there's faith, there's belief, right? Like you can put

02:23:29.740 your faith and your belief into certain, um, uh, religious understandings and philosophies

02:23:34.460 and stuff like that. But it is, you have to understand, like there, there's a difference

02:23:39.520 between having faith and like almost seeing it as absolutely real. Like I, I understand the

02:23:44.880 concept of faith. I have faith in a lot of shit, but like there is a concept of faith that

02:23:49.500 almost allows you to believe that it actually is real until something else happens that

02:23:55.340 you, then you might change your faith. But I think that faith, faith, in fact, they don't

02:24:01.260 always coincide. You know what I'm saying? Like find facts, you should change your faith.

02:24:06.360 You should, you should adjust your beliefs based off of things that you find along the

02:24:10.320 way. Which by the way, to that point, um, like I said, I've been doing this for a long

02:24:15.300 time. I was not religious at all. Um, I wasn't raised religious. I wasn't introduced to Christianity

02:24:21.380 as a child there, thereby I had no baggage. I was kicked out of the last church that I went to

02:24:26.180 for my backstory, but go ahead, Dave. Well, I'm just saying that when I got to probably about 30

02:24:32.500 years old, I had a, an experience like a spiritual one as a very negative one, but it, it, it allowed

02:24:39.380 me, or rather it didn't allow me to suspect that the spiritual realm was real. I was concrete in

02:24:45.960 that. I was made definitively aware that there are entities. Um, and then what that did, it said,

02:24:53.140 if there's one side of the coin that is these negative entities, then maybe the other side of

02:24:58.400 the coin is these positive entities. And the way that I got this to go away, um, was by calling on

02:25:07.020 Christ. And so I understand that within the, the Gnostic, we're not even necessarily Gnostic,

02:25:12.100 but a cult, um, studies, this idea of an aggregate or exists, the idea that you could put so much

02:25:17.760 faith in something that it could defend you potentially from these other things that

02:25:21.460 seemingly exist, but aren't independent of your own. And I think that's true as well.

02:25:26.940 I do think that there's a lot of truth to that, but there are really important details that need to

02:25:32.460 be examined. And so what happened is I wouldn't allow myself to treat Jesus Christ as not a real

02:25:42.060 man. And because of that, I felt indebted to him for having saved me and my family from this

02:25:48.900 experience. And that created a sort of a loyalty in me where I decided to, as, as somebody who's been

02:25:55.820 doing this, the Bible has always been there, but I've not really given it the due that it deserves.

02:26:01.420 And honestly, for me, for my half of Nephilim death squad, you are watching me in real time,

02:26:06.980 give the Bible it's due to give it a fair look with no bias, no cultural loaded shit where I'm like,

02:26:13.600 Oh, you know, Christianity is this or Christianity is that I recognize that here in America,

02:26:19.140 you can get on stage, put a mic in your hand and dunk on Jesus Christ to the sound of a round of

02:26:24.640 applause. So I, I recognize I don't need to do any ridiculing here. That's already been done.

02:26:30.080 Let me just look at this thing as I would look at any other information and starting at 30 years old

02:26:35.080 for the past four years. Now, it's just been vindication after vindication after vindication.

02:26:39.700 And what's crazy is all my previous years of being a conspiracy theorist play in perfectly.

02:26:45.780 Yes, I do. There is you, the, these concerns do get addressed. These weird spiritual principles,

02:26:52.260 all this occulted information, it is addressed. If you don't look at it in the very gay truncated

02:26:59.400 version that you get from the church, where it's just like, be as Jesus and pay your tithes and show

02:27:04.760 up on Sunday and be a good Christian. That is not at all what I do. And so I have found that it's very

02:27:11.220 much like a key, like you would have a legend and that legend allows you to understand a map.

02:27:15.540 This is so integral to understanding all the conspiracies and all the spiritual shit that

02:27:22.040 we go through. And I just want to say before I dismount, there are a lot of things that you

02:27:26.160 learn within Gnosticism, within the different occult aspects. And you're, you're researching this

02:27:30.540 person and Alice Bailey and Alistair Crowley and all these different things. And you don't have to

02:27:35.280 throw that away. You'll find that it actually plays very well with what the Bible says and that you

02:27:41.740 can start to flesh out a much larger picture where, where previously I had chunks of the puzzle that

02:27:48.560 were no longer, that weren't connected to each other yet. The Bible was that connective tissue. It

02:27:53.240 brought all of it together. I was not a lifelong Christian. I was a lifelong conspiracy theorist.

02:27:58.480 That's totally different. And I still am. I didn't have to throw anything away.

02:28:04.140 Hey, I can appreciate that. I mean, I'm not a Christian, but I can appreciate, like, I,

02:28:08.760 I understand that there is a lot to be had. Like there's a lot to gain from devoting your life to

02:28:14.400 Jesus. Like you see it all throughout. How many different testimonies do you need to hear? Like

02:28:18.300 it absolutely changes people's lives whenever you completely, you know, devote yourself to

02:28:23.660 something like that. And, and so I don't, I, I never, you know, I never try to dunk on Christianity

02:28:29.100 or anything like that. I mean, you know, I, I fuck with Jacob from time to time with it,

02:28:33.160 but it's all in good love territory, dog, you know, but I'm, I'm happy that you found that dude.

02:28:37.740 And I'm happy that you're looking at it and, and it does really all play into it. I'm happy you,

02:28:41.860 you know, you brought in the Gnosticism and the, the occult and all that stuff. And you're really

02:28:46.220 just looking at it for what it is, because there are different perspectives that view the world in

02:28:50.500 very different ways. And if you're just a Christian and you can't, you know, uh, compare

02:28:56.560 and contrast a little bit with other people's beliefs, then you're really only ever going to have

02:29:01.080 one perspective. And that one perspective might get you to the end zone, but it's going to be,

02:29:06.280 you're going to be fumbling and bumbling, you know, just like fucking John Madden was saying

02:29:09.460 the whole way. And it's good to really like know the enemy. If you believe that all the Gnostics

02:29:15.660 and all the occults and all the witchcraft and all the say, uh, you know, the satanic stuff and,

02:29:20.440 and Luciferian all that shit. If you, yeah, I think that it could, it could work. And so I get it.

02:29:26.680 This is going to be a total retards version of, of what I'm about to say, but it's the only one I

02:29:31.840 have to offer. Um, it's almost like Jesus Christ was, was wiping the slate clean. It was like a

02:29:37.780 cheat code. It was like, so these entities ourselves and these other things, we have free will. They

02:29:45.700 integrated with us. They fell and the world became incredibly messy. And there might've even been a

02:29:52.420 time in the past where these studies of certain things, cause you know how now Christians would

02:29:56.260 be like, don't look at astrology. Don't look at numerology. Don't look at these things. They're

02:29:59.580 of the devil. I don't think that's true. I think some of it might be sure. There's a satanic cult

02:30:06.400 that's following a certain star for a certain reason. Sure. Right. Right. But what I'm saying

02:30:10.520 is that they don't have the ability to create. They only have the ability to invert. And I think

02:30:14.720 what's happened is they have inverted and perverted all of these systems that we would call magic.

02:30:20.620 If we got a good look at them and they've been around forever and we probably used to use them

02:30:25.360 to a large degree. Everything got incredibly messy. And when the Amish see electricity as witchcraft

02:30:33.480 and we just did a story on, um, we just did an episode on, on the Mormons and, um, you know,

02:30:41.260 they're basically like, it's like Christian mysticism or not the Mormons. I'm sorry. The, uh,

02:30:44.800 Latter-day Saints. Is that the same thing? Yeah. So in, in many ways they're, they're dealing with

02:30:49.480 like, they're dealing with the philosopher stone and all this other crazy. They're like

02:30:52.100 it's Christian fanfic that went way too far. Well, here's my thing. It's real dog. I got

02:30:57.220 the message from an angel. You know, it's like, I do think that, I think a lot of these things do

02:31:01.020 exist, but we're retarded. Like human beings are so fucking retarded. And I think that Jesus Christ

02:31:09.140 was a simplification. It's like, look, the, the, the path to heaven, the path to getting back into God's

02:31:14.480 good graces has become so convoluted and so messy. We were given this one clear cut path,

02:31:21.100 believe that he came and he died for your sins and he is the way to the father. That's it.

02:31:24.980 It's actually, it's actually quite comical. Like if you do read the Bible through the old

02:31:27.860 Testament, it's like, God's like, God, these people are retarded. I got to kick them out.

02:31:31.700 And then he's like, well, I'll just give you like, here's some guidance. And they're like,

02:31:34.260 nah, you fucked that up. Here's, here's some rules. You fucked that up. I put them on stone.

02:31:38.900 You got it wrong again. Here's the book of Deuteronomy. Got it wrong. And then you're like,

02:31:42.580 you know what? I'm just going to really boil this down for you. Like my son, he's got to die.

02:31:45.860 That's how dumb you are. And it's super simple. Real shit. And it wasn't just the Jews. Although

02:31:51.060 yeah, the story centered around them, but like equate that to any group of humans ever. If they

02:31:55.720 get hooked up and they get really wealthy, really powerful, whatever they make it fuck up and they

02:32:00.540 crumble. Every civilization has gone up, up, up, fucked up. How did you put your, you don't put your faith

02:32:06.280 in man because it's what we do over and over again. So I do think that like, you don't have to throw

02:32:11.640 out all this stuff. I don't, I don't agree with, in practicing it, but it's like, you think that,

02:32:15.700 uh, Pythagoras, when he came to the idea that like this entire realm could be boiled down to numbers,

02:32:21.100 um, that that was nonsense. I don't think it's nonsense. I also don't think it's indicative of

02:32:26.080 like simulation theory either. Simulation theory pisses me off. Cause it's like, oh, because of our

02:32:30.800 limited ability to create games like fortnight, we can recognize that the way in which we manipulate

02:32:35.320 code almost mirrors itself in this realm that we inhabit thereby in our, like,

02:32:40.920 this is a video game. Like in our grand understanding of things, this must be just

02:32:45.300 like fortnight. This must be a simulation. So you mean to tell me that this realm was created and

02:32:49.720 that that's insinuates that there's a creator, no shit. That's been what Christianity is telling

02:32:55.400 you for the longest time, that this is not the last place that we're going to be. There is something

02:32:59.940 beyond this. And this realm seems to be, I would agree with people who suggest it's like, um,

02:33:04.860 it's like a proving ground. You know, we're here to suss things out, to develop, to make decisions,

02:33:12.100 to have the free will to make decisions. I don't think that when we die, we experience like ego

02:33:17.340 death and we return to a central consciousness. I don't think that God gave us the diversity that

02:33:23.100 we have from one person to another. I think we retain a lot of who we are and we go to some other

02:33:27.920 place and we still proceed as individuals, but to reduce it to something that resembles

02:33:33.400 grand theft auto five, because we can make grand theft auto five is like, it's just limited human

02:33:38.300 beings using limited language. Once again, to describe something that's above and beyond,

02:33:42.880 but simulation theory gives you the air of arrogance of intellectual, you know, uh, achievement

02:33:48.000 that you figured it all out. It's like, no dude, that's reductive. You could actually say,

02:33:52.620 but you see the number sequences, you see wrong. I'm just saying that to call it simulation theory

02:34:00.260 sounds so reductive. It is. It is though. Cause it is all frequency and vibration. I mean,

02:34:05.560 this desk is vibrating at a certain frequency in order for it to become solid. So this is like

02:34:10.160 numbers attached to this, but it's so like he's saying to deduce it, like to reduce it down to a

02:34:15.520 video game is ridiculous. There's a creator. There is a pattern to how shit is made. And that's my thing

02:34:19.800 too. It's like, if, if the Bible attributes a personality set to God and says that God created

02:34:24.820 this entire thing and created us, and this is why we're here and yada, yada, yada. And you look

02:34:29.280 at that and you go, no, very gay. And then you look over to simulation theory that says the same

02:34:33.580 thing, but it sounds like it came out of Stephen Hawking's mouth. And you're like, that is the way,

02:34:37.540 you know, and it's like, we still don't have a grasp on it, but it's funny because that story's

02:34:42.140 already been told for a long time. We just reinvent shit. There's nothing new under the sun,

02:34:46.180 but we name it something different. And then we claim intellectual superiority,

02:34:50.560 you know, having identified it, it's fucking retarded.

02:34:53.000 Can I ask y'all something? Have, have y'all ever worked at like a, like a local restaurant,

02:34:57.600 not like a big chain, but like a local restaurant, a local store, anything that was local that had

02:35:03.200 like an owner and then a general manager and then, you know, assistant managers and shit like that.

02:35:07.840 Right. Well, I, I did. I worked at this place called Rotolo's and it was in Prairieville.

02:35:12.640 They had a couple of other stores, but it was mainly like a Louisiana pizza shop. Right.

02:35:17.060 And chain. Yeah. Right. Right. And every so often, I mean, once in a blue moon, maybe once a year,

02:35:23.380 you would see the owner come in and basically it was just there to lay down the law. Like he didn't

02:35:28.120 really appreciate all the good things you were doing, but he would jump your ass if you were

02:35:32.540 doing something wrong. And it was kind of like, you know, it was like you grew to not like that person.

02:35:38.180 So you, you were, you always, you would always keep in your mind like, God, I hope that I'm not

02:35:42.480 here the day he comes back, you know? And, but then you had your general managers and your assistant

02:35:47.640 managers and your front of house and your back of house, like leads and stuff like that. Then you

02:35:51.760 just had the regular employees. And I feel like just me personally, I feel like how, uh, religious

02:35:58.560 people view the creator or God is kind of that owner that really only comes by every so often.

02:36:05.360 And really whenever he comes around, it's, it's kind of like, you don't want to see that

02:36:10.200 because then it's probably the end of the world and it's going to be starting all over

02:36:13.020 again. He's going to be bringing her some kind of disease or great flood, or he's going to

02:36:16.860 kill a lot of people because you shouldn't have been doing it this kind of way. And I feel

02:36:20.840 like that that's not necessarily correct. I don't want to, I'm, I don't agree with that.

02:36:25.560 What I'm saying is that I think that some people look at it like that, that there is some

02:36:29.900 kind of overall overarching kind of person that created this thing that is kind of in

02:36:36.040 control, but not really around very often. But then, you know, you get into certain scripture

02:36:40.920 and everything. And it says that, you know, God is the alpha and the omega is the beginning.

02:36:45.480 He's the end. He's the omnipotent, omnipresent, literally always around, whatever you look at,

02:36:51.280 whatever you see around you also within you is God, right? So it's not necessarily that owner

02:36:57.420 that is only sometimes around. It's that literally everything you see around here is

02:37:02.180 God's creation. There is nothing that has ever existed that isn't God's creation. Can we agree

02:37:06.820 on that? Sure. Yeah. So why is it that we are trying to, I don't know, I just, I question a lot

02:37:15.660 of the understandings of God in saying that like, oh, well, you know, he created us this way and then

02:37:21.780 he had to kill his son and he tried to, he tried to, you know, tell you on the tablets, he tried to tell

02:37:25.740 you through certain scripture and you couldn't get it. Well, I mean, whose fault is it that we're

02:37:30.040 retarded in the first place? Right? Like whose fault is it that like we couldn't get it and that

02:37:35.380 we had to go through all these things in the first place? Satan. That's it. Oh, it's Satan's fault.

02:37:40.540 But also hold on, hold on. If God created everything kind of created Satan too. And also I do want to

02:37:48.380 point this out too, and I'm not chitting on the religion or anything. I'm just trying to show the

02:37:51.540 different perspective here. The, the idea that demons could exist and Satan exists and all these

02:37:57.420 like very fucked up, like biblical beings or titles or whatever you want to call them.

02:38:02.760 They always all seem to draw everybody back to the religion anyway. So you kind of could look at them

02:38:10.000 as contractors for God, right? Like in a weird way, how many times have somebody been like, you know,

02:38:16.640 they've been haunted by a demon or they had this weird demonic fucking, you know, experience. And it's

02:38:21.280 like, well, you know, you're kind of proving the point. And you know, whenever we had the, uh,

02:38:26.220 Brian from the demon erasers on, he thought the same exact thing. He was like, like all the actions

02:38:31.700 that you're carrying out right now, it's only causing me to want to follow this religion more

02:38:35.700 in the first place. So like all the good and all the bad, couldn't we just say that it's all God in

02:38:42.040 the first place? So hold on now to your restaurant example. And it's going to tie into the point here,

02:38:47.620 uh, in high school, my first job completely under the table, illegal as fuck was at this place

02:38:54.120 called Dutch's. Okay. Great little steak house. The owner of it, Mr. Dutch. Okay. So it was a bit

02:39:00.300 of an asshole, but he ran a good kitchen and he could fucking grill the best steak I've ever had

02:39:03.840 in my life. Be honest with you. I was working there as a bus boy and in high school, I'm 16 years old.

02:39:09.560 I couldn't give a fuck less about anything because I'm a high school kid. And a long story short,

02:39:15.320 there was a night where I had something I had to do. I don't know, salads, trash dishes,

02:39:19.960 who fucking knows. Right. But whatever the case was, it was subpar and it was under the standard.

02:39:25.920 And he had said something to me about it. And he was, it was, he was being a dick about this.

02:39:31.800 My response is what made him be a dick next. Okay. He said, Hey, you know how we do this here.

02:39:37.860 I need you to make this better. And I said something along the lines of like, uh, I mean, yeah,

02:39:43.040 but I mean, it's good. And then like, what difference does it make? It's good enough.

02:39:46.740 Son, that man snatched me by my collar, brought me to the front of that restaurant and pointed

02:39:52.740 at the sign and says, whose name is on that fucking sign boy. And I said, it's Dutchess.

02:39:57.000 Is that Jacobs? Is that your shit? And I said, no, sir. He said, that salad is at Dutchess.

02:40:03.100 My name is on that fucking salad, not yours. You're going to make it to standard or you're

02:40:08.120 going to get the fuck. And it, bro, I'm talking, it was my first proper ass chewing, which I

02:40:13.500 needed and I deserved. And I got, I got my peepee slap for that one. Cool. You actually

02:40:18.140 docked my pay a little bit to make a point, but at the Christmas party, he actually gave

02:40:21.440 it back. It was a whole thing, but it's not the point. I take that to this realm. Okay.

02:40:26.280 Is this our world? This is God's fucking world. He made this shit. He told us a standard to

02:40:33.100 keep. Now it's up to us. If we want to keep this standard and keep these rules and do

02:40:38.480 as he asks of us. Otherwise we can get the fuck because regardless, this is God's and

02:40:44.680 that's just the way it is. So the fact that he doesn't is, it shows you like, you're talking

02:40:49.440 about like unending kindness. Like, like, you know, if we want to attribute things like childhood

02:40:53.160 cancer to him, it's like the fact that he doesn't just smite you off the earth. The second

02:40:56.560 that, you know, Billy Carson goes on talking shit about him, it's that I'm like, it's a miracle.

02:41:02.140 To further my point, the reason I didn't get fired because his son, little Dutch stuck

02:41:08.880 his neck out for me. Interesting. So to further my point, I do think it's almost like he gave

02:41:15.320 us a pass on all the shit that he knows we're going to do because we're that 16 year old

02:41:19.440 dumbass. Yes. And he actually sent his son on behalf of us because he did it. We didn't

02:41:24.940 ask our son. Thankfully, we don't need to have Jesus in that regard. He sent him to earth

02:41:31.160 for us. We just have to acknowledge that and follow him. I would say to that. The point is

02:41:38.340 that there's something else beyond this, right? Like this is important. And the decisions that

02:41:42.660 you make here are incredibly important. But you notice how what you do develops you spiritually in

02:41:48.240 your in your personality. I don't think that there is I mean, maybe there is another way. Maybe we could

02:41:53.720 have just been made, you know, perfect in our knowledge and our wisdom. But instead, he gave

02:42:01.200 us the ability to develop as children. And I mean, like children as we inhabit this realm,

02:42:06.460 right? It's like, ideally, we are becoming what we're supposed to be becoming wiser and better as

02:42:12.140 human beings. I think we'll leave this place. And for all the horror that we'll have seen,

02:42:17.680 that'll kind of be extinguished once we realize like, oh, it is okay. Not I'm not saying it doesn't

02:42:23.080 matter. But it is okay. And I think that where we go after this, we are going to retain a lot of

02:42:32.720 the way we developed here, the lessons, the love that we developed. And I think that that is

02:42:38.840 incredible that he gave us the ability to do this instead of just making us perfect. And he allowed us

02:42:45.180 to crawl and then walk and then run and then develop into something and go through this fucking

02:42:50.680 this epic saga. You know, this this physical realm that we inhabit in the history that we

02:42:56.160 developed as a human being. And, and also what's on the horizon, if we truly are going to see

02:43:00.720 incredible things in our lifetime, I think we'll get to a place after this where it's like gratitude

02:43:05.240 is going to be the only thing that we can express like thank you for putting me in front of my wife

02:43:09.860 and my son. And thank you for all the hard times, but also the beautiful times. And thank you for

02:43:15.840 allowing me to bear witness to this unbelievable shit as it unfolded. And then I think that's kind

02:43:21.220 of just the beginning of another story. But it's like, to go to a small story, and I actually got

02:43:26.720 to run in a minute, but um, for Bohemian Grove, that was a hard event to pull off. But we had people,

02:43:34.400 I mean, so many people, everything that could go wrong, did go wrong. And there was a point like

02:43:39.120 a week before, maybe two weeks before I looked at David, and I was like, uh, I don't know if we

02:43:43.680 should do this. Because at every everything that I was doing at every single point, there was

02:43:48.900 resistance meeting me. And it didn't make any sense. And I'm like, all right, listen, I don't

02:43:53.900 want to be the guy that says this is a spiritual attack. But like, my dog just died of a random heart

02:43:58.340 cancer. And this is a hell, I was like, this shit is like, I'm like, this is out of control at this

02:44:02.400 point. And I basically, we were at the point where like, we could cancel it. And we decided

02:44:07.700 not to, because I'm like, if we cancel it, we'll never do it. We'll never get around to doing this.

02:44:12.420 And I think it's important to do for the community that we're trying to build and all that. But I

02:44:17.740 said all that, because after it was done, you know, no matter what the result, we did what we had to do,

02:44:23.700 we had some audio issues, but I think everyone had a good time. And I'm like, I'm so glad I did it.

02:44:28.360 And I think it was a bigger success than it actually probably was, because of the, the

02:44:34.700 perseverance that we had towards it, because of the opposition that we faced at every single step

02:44:39.620 of the way. And still, we were like, fuck you, I'm doing this thing. You know, like, I was talking

02:44:45.080 to God, I was like, Hey, listen, you know, there was things in my life that were going completely

02:44:49.380 haywire upside down. I was like, at one point, I actually said, Hey, that's enough. Like, I get it.

02:44:56.240 I'm not supposed to do this thing. Or, uh, you know, maybe I am supposed to do this thing,

02:45:00.860 but there's obstacles in my way, but that's enough. I'm doing this anyway. I'm committed now

02:45:05.060 and kind of cleared up. We, we pulled it off, but yeah, without life, without these obstacles

02:45:11.340 and without this strife is like, what's it worth living? This is all. Are we all parents here?

02:45:16.200 Jonathan, are you a parent? Yeah. Yeah. I have two kids. So, okay. Cause I think we, we've been

02:45:21.600 looking at this from like a us centric point of view. And I think that maybe looking over to God,

02:45:26.520 if God truly did love us to the extent that he sent his only son to die for us, let's, let's take

02:45:33.480 that at face value. God loves the shit out of us, your own child. Would you rather they just came out

02:45:40.160 pre-baked full of wisdom and, and, and intelligence fully developed, or is the journey that they go

02:45:47.200 through as much of a blessing for you to bear witness to as it is for them to go through?

02:45:52.380 And I think that sometimes we turn God and I used to do this. How could we know the nature of God?

02:45:58.480 How could we project our own understanding of man onto this creator entity? And I used to be more

02:46:06.460 comfortable with the idea that he was maybe like a cloud of energy that all consciousness returned to

02:46:10.500 when you died, because I don't fucking know, probably thank you sci-fi for that. But I think that

02:46:15.540 there's a fractal nature to reality. When you look at a microscopic level, it emulates the macro.

02:46:21.520 And I think that God is showing you his nature. So I think in some ways you can look at yourself as

02:46:28.300 a parent and, and what you want for your kids and how you do value the hardship, especially when they

02:46:34.360 overcome and learn from it. And I think we can kind of project those values onto God, I think pretty

02:46:39.340 safely, actually, just given that fractal nature of reality as above, so below is a, is a spiritual

02:46:45.080 truism. It's a, it's a reality of this realm. And I think that so often what he actually wants for

02:46:52.500 us is left out of the conversation. I think he wants us to grow. I think he wants to see us grow.

02:46:57.880 I think he wants us to grow with him. I think he wants us to talk to him. I think he wishes we would

02:47:02.260 just fucking talk to him sometimes.

02:47:04.560 I get that, but isn't it kind of an illusion of free will? Like, like the idea, yes, are we free to

02:47:11.660 go about and do whatever the hell we want? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Like you can, if you want to be a

02:47:15.600 pedophile, go ahead and do it. You want to be a rapist, a killer or whatever, go ahead and do it.

02:47:19.360 Like that's free will. God gave you that. Right. But like, ultimately it's almost like, um, it's an

02:47:25.260 illusion of free will because you can do all that in the meantime, but in the end there's your free

02:47:33.400 will that allowed you to be able to do all those negative things or just not believe by the way,

02:47:39.440 it's not even just as simple as being like those horrible things. If you don't believe you will be

02:47:44.280 treated as the same way in the same respect that a rapist and a pedophile and a murderer and like

02:47:50.800 shit like that, you'll be treated the same exact way. Um, once you get to the end recently. And I

02:47:56.680 learned that that wasn't the case. It's like now we're talking about what hell is. And I think what

02:48:01.480 you were describing, why I joked in the beginning of this episode about what hell is, is that you're like,

02:48:06.560 it's this infinite void, this darkness. And it freaked you the fuck out. Um, Ed Mabry,

02:48:11.920 you should talk with him. He's a, he's really good. Um, he has this theory about the speed of

02:48:15.640 light and how God is kind of like getting a little further away. And the speed of light is kind of

02:48:19.520 going down, which makes our physical constitution and among other things like, uh, degrade rapidly.

02:48:24.720 Um, so if God is light, if he's the son, if he's like raw, all these stories, um, hell means that you

02:48:30.320 are not, uh, next to him, you are away from him. And if there's no light, then you are in this infinite.

02:48:36.260 And I think that that, you know, it's, it's torture. And it's like, it's like, yeah,

02:48:40.760 you know, pedophiles go there. Rapists go there. Murderers go there. Uh, people who don't,

02:48:45.680 but then it's like, Hey, why would I want to live next to this guy? I didn't know him.

02:48:49.900 I never spoke with him. Would you want to come and move into my house? Like we had,

02:48:53.180 we've had a couple of conversations. I'm like, move in. You'd be like, no, that's fucking crazy.

02:48:56.420 I don't know you. And I'd say the same thing to you. Like, I don't really know you like that.

02:48:59.520 You can't live with my kids. I don't know you. It's just a side effect of like, Hey,

02:49:04.100 if I am the light and you are far from me, you're going to be in something so dark and cold that

02:49:09.040 it's going to feel like you're burning. Yeah. And I think that a lot of hell has been our own,

02:49:13.620 the interpretation of it has been our own butchering of it. Um, but I do think that

02:49:19.280 there are levels of severity. Um, and I think that hell is like top is saying it's distance from God.

02:49:25.480 I think that is really what hell is. And, and I think that even on the heaven aspect, it's,

02:49:31.600 it's very clear scripture says, right. There's two thrones of judgment in the end.

02:49:35.580 And one of them is Jesus's throne. And that is more or less like, um, well, you've been saved.

02:49:42.200 You believed in me, but to what degree will you have nice things in this afterlife? Um,

02:49:48.300 and then I think the same thing. So remember what I was talking about the fractal

02:49:51.260 nature of reality as above, so below we, as human beings create pretty complex systems,

02:49:57.440 especially complex systems for punishment. There are varying levels of, of sentences that you can

02:50:03.380 endure. There's various levels, maximum, you know, security prisons and isolation and all these

02:50:09.060 different things. I think that once again, through our limited understanding, we have, uh,

02:50:15.860 screwed these concepts up. Why would we be so capable of creating something so nuanced and

02:50:22.920 structured and tiered, uh, but God would not. And so I, I don't think that it is as simple as,

02:50:29.640 and I'm not saying this is what you're saying, Jonathan, but like some people do look at it as

02:50:33.380 like, you're going to be boiling next to Hitler in a, in a fiery pit. And I go, that's kind of

02:50:38.360 cartoon shit. Um, I think that there is a lot more nuance to it. And, and I mean, look, there are

02:50:43.780 people even that say that hell is a temporary place and I don't know how true that is, but I

02:50:49.500 just know that we send people to prison temporarily. I would not be surprised if by the end of this

02:50:55.960 thing, we will find that we have grossly, uh, misinterpreted God and his word and that the

02:51:03.500 systems and places that we will see after this will look very similar to what we do, but on a

02:51:10.040 grandiose level. And I think we're going to face palm the shit out of ourselves when we fucking die

02:51:14.700 just in the way that we've reduced this, because the more that I look into it, the more nuanced it

02:51:20.440 gets. And the more, I don't think that that like, you know, it was like, uh, uh, that as above,

02:51:25.600 but so below is supposed to be like a Baphomet principle. Right. And, um, I don't think that that

02:51:31.600 is true. I think it was a principle that was co-opted and inverted, but I think it's just a

02:51:37.260 universal truism about where we reside in this realm. And it's even the same thing when,

02:51:42.520 when people go, well, Jesus Christ is actually an analog or analogy rather for the sun and see

02:51:47.680 what happens is the sun rests on this, uh, thing called the celestial crux and it stays there for

02:51:52.220 three days. And then after the third day, it moves from that place in the sky and the days become

02:51:57.320 longer. Thus, you know, the return of the sun or the resurrection. Also, uh, Jesus is just a metaphor

02:52:03.680 for the 33 vertebrae that you have in your spine. And Christ is actually Christos, which is an oil

02:52:10.020 that is in your spine. And if you, through some sort of meditation can manage to migrate this oil

02:52:14.760 to your pineal gland, you will become an ascended master like Jesus Christ. And all I hear when I hear

02:52:21.940 that is that God and Jesus Christ are echoed through so much of this reality. That does not mean that

02:52:30.520 Jesus Christ is just an analogy for oil or that Jesus Christ is just an analogy for the sun. I look

02:52:37.560 at that and I go, this universe emulates, it echoes God's will, um, on the macro and on the micro,

02:52:46.460 and you will find him wherever you look. And so I think that on that level, when you die, whether or not

02:52:54.840 it comes to hell, I think that fractal nature still exists there. And I think that it'll just be very

02:53:00.360 similar to systems that we have here. And then you'll have to ask yourself the question, was it

02:53:04.040 ever our intention to create this system? Or do we have that little spark of divine because God did

02:53:10.260 create us? And so we move in his will in so many ways. It definitely seems right. Like the interpretation

02:53:17.100 factor. I mean, look at it. How many different, um, uh, religions are there that are stemming off of

02:53:23.620 Christianity in the first place? There's always going to be different interpretations. And I think that

02:53:28.100 you are right. As far as, you know, the, there's certain like emulating factors, whether you're

02:53:33.120 looking up in the stars and you trying to read the, the sky clock as Crow triple seven calls it,

02:53:37.840 or if you're trying to understand science and you get into the Christos and now it's rising up the

02:53:41.840 spine and, and then you get into certain, you know, uh, Vedic understandings in it all kind of does say

02:53:47.760 the same thing. And so that's honestly, that's why I say I'm kind of like the fucking, uh, the coexist

02:53:52.780 bumper sticker. Like I believe that there is remnants of truth within all of them. And I think

02:53:58.980 that if you're really, this is just my own personal interpretation. I think that if you are putting more

02:54:04.160 eggs in one specific basket, that's what causes you to kind of distance yourself from, you know,

02:54:10.620 your brothers and your sisters and your neighbors and your parents and anybody who has a different,

02:54:14.640 you know, understanding than you, you're distancing yourself from. And I think that God wants the exact

02:54:19.200 opposite of that. God wants us all to come together. God wants us to treat our neighbor as

02:54:23.040 ourselves and stuff like that. And so I think that, you know, that there's, there's more than

02:54:27.660 one way to skin a cat here. And I agree. It's what pushed me away from Christianity in, in general,

02:54:34.640 because my, my mother, I don't even remember what scripture, but same sort of thing. We were

02:54:38.900 close with our family and she became a Christian and she had to turn her life around. So that means

02:54:42.800 that you can't break bread with the sinner. And I'm like, well, that's uncle, uncle Andy. You know,

02:54:47.440 I was like, I'm still going to know Jesus ate with the horrors. Exactly. Like we do Bohemian

02:54:52.120 Grove with the trannies. We're like, listen, man, I, I've, I, I just, I come off abrasive

02:54:59.940 and stuff, but like one of the things that I value most and what I'm able to do now is just

02:55:03.800 like this community. It's beautiful. Like I want to talk with everybody and I want everyone to kind

02:55:08.540 of like be involved here. If you believe what I believe, that's, that's great. As long as you're

02:55:12.200 not like shitting on me, like really trashing me, like in a mean way, you have to be a little

02:55:17.040 bit, um, not defensive, but a little bit more convicted in your, um, alignment with God.

02:55:25.460 And what I mean by that is like, there is a hundred percent to Jonathan's point, a, a,

02:55:29.720 I don't even want to say a nugget of truth. There's a lot of truth to all these different

02:55:34.080 religions. Imagine though, for a moment, you worked your ass off, you made a house, you know,

02:55:42.420 for your wife and your son and you bought them all these things and you put food on the

02:55:47.880 table and you've gone above and beyond to create something of value for those that you

02:55:54.660 love. And for whatever reason, they keep thanking uncle Terry. And it's like, no motherfucker,

02:56:02.680 I, I did this. And I think that's why the first commandment is like not having any other

02:56:07.780 gods before me, the, the mistake that others are making and albeit they are surrounded by

02:56:14.980 a lot of truth is they are attributing this creation to something else. Just from my own

02:56:21.320 point of view, I would have to sit down with my family again and again and be like, I am

02:56:26.560 the one who's making the things for you. Okay. This is not the doing of uncle Terry, you know,

02:56:31.520 and it honestly hurts a lot that you would say that this is somebody else's doing and

02:56:38.020 not mine. And I would resent greatly anyone who would step into my home and claim that

02:56:43.600 they built it. And I think that that is the core of the issue. I don't hate other people

02:56:49.840 and their other religions at all. And I always tell people, it's like, no, I do believe that

02:56:54.340 you're right about a lot of things. And you are seeing these, you know, spiritual principles

02:56:58.920 and entities and things like that, but you are in God's house and you are telling me that

02:57:06.000 Azazel made it. And that is where the core of the problem is. So yeah, no, definitely.

02:57:11.840 I think God does want us to come together, but that certainly does not mean to then falsely

02:57:19.620 attribute his creation to something else just because your brother does.

02:57:22.480 Beautiful. Well, I know, I, I get it. I appreciate, you know, the, the, the perspectives

02:57:28.700 here. And I think that we all learn a little bit when there are varying perspectives, right? Like

02:57:33.680 you don't want to be in one of those echo chambers that is everybody's just like sucking each other's

02:57:38.080 dick and fucking deep throat in each other. Yes. You said exactly what I believe. So now I like

02:57:42.180 you a lot more. Like, I don't want to be a part of that. I want to be around people that have

02:57:46.900 different perspectives that can broaden my awareness and broaden my understanding of exactly

02:57:51.420 the nature of our reality. Like I love those kinds of, you know, those kinds of conversations.

02:57:56.900 So I appreciate you guys coming on. And, um, and this is why our show does really well. Me and Jacob,

02:58:02.140 we don't agree on a lot of the same shit. And that's, that's, what's cool about it is that

02:58:06.760 you can disagree and still Jacob, my best friend for life. There is not a single person that I would

02:58:13.420 trust more in this life than Jacob. And, and it, even though we have very differing perspectives,

02:58:20.400 it's all love. That's all it is. And so I, you know, I, that's why I appreciate you guys coming

02:58:24.960 on, sharing your perspective, sharing your understandings and all the research that you

02:58:28.740 guys have done. Like, this is beautiful. What we're doing here in this podcast world. It's not

02:58:32.700 controlled. It's not constricted. We are free to speak our own mind and we're also free to fucking

02:58:36.800 get along. And that's, that's, what's great about this, especially coming out of the holiday season,

02:58:40.940 right? Like this is the good shit right here. I do not expect this episode to go this way.

02:58:45.280 I'm not gonna lie. We touched on all the shit today. Good God, Jacob. Aren't, aren't we,

02:58:50.180 isn't there precedent for wrestling with God? And is that not what we're doing here?

02:58:54.200 My, uh, my namesake, as a matter of fact, allegedly at one point in time did have a physical

02:58:59.360 altercation with God. Um, yeah. Although, although a lot of scholars believe it was more of an angelic

02:59:05.640 figure on behalf of God, whatever, whatever. Yes, that's, that is a thing. And that's the whole

02:59:11.160 point. We are not supposed to, if you read the Bible cover to cover and just accept everything

02:59:14.820 like, yep, good time, bro. You're fucking psycho. There is so many things in there that

02:59:19.480 need so much more clarification. Yeah. And that's the thing we, as humans wrestle with

02:59:24.320 this, we wrestle with our own conscience. We wrestle with the spirit realm. We wrestle

02:59:27.680 with the physical realm. We wrestle with what happens if dot, dot, dot after dot, dot, dot

02:59:32.540 to every flavor and culture you could think. And at the end of it, if we stay the course,

02:59:39.400 if we do the most that we can do, and I don't mean project that we're doing the most that

02:59:43.840 we can do, if we actually can lay our heads down at night and say that I gave today 110

02:59:48.500 fucking percent of doing the most morally, the most physically, the most whatever. If

02:59:53.840 you give it your all and you do it in the name of Jesus, then it's going to work. You're

02:59:58.380 going to, it's how it's like literally a cheat code.

03:00:00.500 I think we were immersed in what in hindsight will be the greatest mystery we've ever been

03:00:06.560 subjected to. And I think God wants us to try to cut through that and understand him. I think that

03:00:13.300 that is a huge part of this. Let me ask you, are you guys not having the time of your life

03:00:17.160 doing this? It's such a, Oh my God, best job I've ever had. Exactly. And especially as time

03:00:22.500 moves forward and things get crazier, it is the best job in the world, bro. I literally had a

03:00:27.060 Christmas party was just talking to a guy I used to work with him. Long story short, he's my wife's

03:00:30.860 cousin. So I see him at family functions and he's like, so you, uh, still doing your little

03:00:34.100 podcast. I was like my, my little podcast. Uh, yeah, I've been put some respect on my name.

03:00:38.820 Oh no, no. Cause he was shitting on me back when we worked together on shift and I was still

03:00:42.440 working two jobs trying to build this thing to, you know what I mean? So he saw that side of it,

03:00:47.140 and he's like, wait, how do y'all have that much to talk about? I'm like, dude, we're over 600

03:00:51.340 episodes. And I don't know if you've seen the news lately, but they keep making shit for us to talk

03:00:56.720 about. You could look 10 years previously and they can more shit to talk about then that we've never

03:01:02.620 heard of. You want to talk about a thousand years ago. Yeah. We're like, we're never going to stop.

03:01:07.780 I think that, um, God enjoys it when you, when you seek him. And I think that like Jonathan right here,

03:01:13.720 um, saying, you know, he's not a Christian or anything like that, but he does,

03:01:16.920 uh, uh, appreciate the view. I think that God looks at him probably with tremendous favor,

03:01:22.880 just because it's like, if you created all of this and, and then you're looking to mankind and

03:01:28.660 like, there are, there are some of them don't even seem to give a shit about knowing what created

03:01:32.740 is most of them. Yeah. Most of them don't give a shit about anything that's going on. They don't,

03:01:36.800 they don't seem to want to know. And then there are people like us who are chasing this constantly

03:01:41.440 and constantly having to readjust and reassess and check in on our old beliefs. And do they make

03:01:46.420 sense anymore? Do they hold water? And I just think if that was me and I created this and I

03:01:53.080 kicked it off every time I saw one of them light up with like, what the fuck is going on here and

03:01:58.140 start digging, I'd be like, let's go, let's go. So I, I just want to say that, um, there is no part of

03:02:04.400 me because I think that I've found the truth that looks at like Jonathan or somebody like Jonathan

03:02:09.040 as lesser. I look to you like, there's my homie also trying to figure this shit out. And that's

03:02:15.040 what we're called to do. I think so. I'm kind of glad you're doing it that way because I'm like,

03:02:19.680 if I'm missing something and you find it, like fucking tell me, dude. Yes. I also appreciate

03:02:24.060 that there did, there's nothing but fucking time while we're here to be figuring this stuff out in

03:02:29.920 the first place. Like it's not a race. I mean, I, who knows I could get to 85 years old and be like,

03:02:35.760 holy shit, the Nephilim death squad and Jacob fucking got it figured out way long ago. And

03:02:42.140 for some reason it took me 60, 70, 80 years to get to this point. Like I think that, you know,

03:02:48.060 and if you want to talk about God's grace, that's it right there. Yeah. Yeah. And let me tell you,

03:02:52.460 I hope that I can still be unraveling mysteries at 85 years old. If I'm still having beautiful

03:02:58.580 epiphanous moments where things are being revealed to me and it's making something else

03:03:03.020 make sense, you know, that feel, I mean, guys, we're all conspiracy theorists, right? You know,

03:03:06.500 that feeling when something happens and you go, this is the fucking, this is the thing. And this

03:03:11.400 makes, this makes sense. And it's, it's all about like connecting these dots. It's really like an

03:03:14.760 adrenaline rush. If I can still have that at 85 years old, if God is still revealing things to me

03:03:19.860 about his creation that far into the future, I, that's going to be awesome. How awesome is it that

03:03:26.600 an epiphany is even a thing? You know what I'm saying? Like just in general, like the,

03:03:31.060 the way that we, you know, our, our brains light up whenever certain things seem to align,

03:03:35.620 like it is. And then the euphoria system, right? It's like, it does something. It stands all the

03:03:41.000 hairs up on your body and you feel like energized and because you connected it to dots. It's almost

03:03:47.280 like it is like a neurological, like neurological, like synapses, like as if you are creating new

03:03:52.980 passageways, you know, they say like, Oh, every time you think of a different way, um, there will

03:03:57.120 be an electrical connection between one, uh, neuron and another, and it creates a new bridge,

03:04:01.880 a new pathway of thinking. And I go, maybe that sounds like NASA shit, but okay. Um, it almost feels

03:04:07.460 like you can feel that happening in those moments where it feels like a little, like neuron just

03:04:12.440 bridged a path to another one and connected some giant spider web. And I hope we all live to be

03:04:17.860 85 the way this shit's shaking out. I don't even know anymore. I know next year is tops. I'm like

03:04:22.460 looking past not the next couple of weeks, but I just want to say thanks before we get out of here

03:04:26.440 because that I feel like what we're talking about now is the idea of why we're here to look into

03:04:32.040 these things and figure them out. And you guys in no small way have helped us do this, uh, full time.

03:04:38.380 So yeah, you've been instrumental. Unfortunately, you've played a part in creating this shit show,

03:04:43.800 but, uh, yeah, man, I think that's, you know, everybody should be looking into, and I know

03:04:47.800 people have circumstances and shit to do in their life that like the real world, we've just been

03:04:52.140 lucky enough that this is kind of becoming our real world. And, you know, thank you guys for

03:04:56.080 setting us on that path. We really appreciate it. And to the few people out there who don't

03:05:01.420 understand, like, why do you look at these things? It's like on the smallest, most surface level,

03:05:07.720 this is the most entertaining shit in the world to me. Netflix couldn't write it better. It doesn't

03:05:13.320 matter what Hollywood producer cranks out a film. It doesn't hold a candle to reality. If you look

03:05:18.240 at it through the right lens. And so, um, even if everything I believe fell apart tomorrow,

03:05:24.000 I wouldn't stop digging because it's still the most interesting shit on earth.

03:05:29.060 Yeah, it definitely is. We're living in one of the craziest movies. If we are all collectively

03:05:34.640 fucking tripping our balls off right now, or even the idea that we all died in 2012 and our,

03:05:39.560 our life is actually just flashing before our eyes and we're not actually existing in

03:05:43.460 the, in the right moment, like going back to the matrix movie, the spoon's not really there.

03:05:47.540 Like it's still, it's fucking awesome. Looking back at all this, if that's the case,

03:05:51.680 absolutely bro. So if you guys, Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead.

03:05:56.480 No, I was going to say, if you guys would, um, tell all of our cult members where they can find

03:06:01.760 you and all your work and you guys are the shit, man. And so any cult member that's listening

03:06:06.080 to this highly recommend you guys go check out the Nephilim death squad, but how would they do so?

03:06:11.400 There's actually open applications right now. If you are a cult member, you can do both. You can

03:06:15.320 be have dual citizenship. You could become a dangerous retard. Uh, follow us at, uh, Nephilim

03:06:20.460 death squad, Nephilim D squad. We actually take submissions. If you got crazy stories, Nephilim

03:06:25.540 D squad at gmail.com. We'd love to hear from you. We do an episode every week called Chronicles.

03:06:30.340 Um, and yeah, Nephilim death squad on all socials. Follow me. If you like shit posting, uh, on

03:06:35.520 Twitter, top lops, I'm on Instagram too. And tower gang, this is the most offensive podcast ever

03:06:41.060 made. I, you guys were at the, at the second show. Yeah. Um, yeah, yeah, we just showed the

03:06:46.620 entire audience. I didn't realize how unhinged tower gang really got. I didn't realize the lore goes

03:06:51.560 back to the four Chan days. Yeah. Yeah. It's wild. It's a, it's a rough show. Not for the faint of

03:06:57.080 heart. We showed Dick at Bohemian Grove. Um, that was, that was also wild, dude. Y'all

03:07:02.160 were out of pocket for that one. Let me tell you something, right? We got the picture on

03:07:05.540 the screen for like 10 minutes, dude. Cause it was art. Okay. You just got to drive the

03:07:10.620 people of art. It was incredible. Uh, I just want to say, yeah, Nephilim death squad on all

03:07:14.220 platforms, but I hope you guys will come back. We are throwing another Bohemian Grove, uh, probably

03:07:20.080 in about April, I would say eventually, eventually. Um, and we are, I believe we're

03:07:26.380 turning it into a two day event because last time it was Bohemian Grove, but you can say

03:07:32.200 the two days were starkly different from one another. I think the first day is going to

03:07:35.760 be Bohemian Grove. And the second day is going to be a tower gang event called rape

03:07:39.600 a Palooza. Uh, God, it's going to be at the same location. It's going to be at the same

03:07:47.860 location. Okay. I think so. I believe David, if they like t-shirts, that's what I do for

03:07:52.480 my main business. But, uh, yeah, I'm a t-shirt producer, graphic designer, top lobster.com.

03:07:56.620 Very offensive stuff. I dare you to wear it. Basically that I think that's the motto going

03:08:00.180 forward. Cause it's like, you might get punched or you might get a high five. So go check.

03:08:03.640 He's got a shirt and a hat that says based and come pilled. Uh, so I mean, you know,

03:08:08.720 people buy it. So yeah, catch a Nephilim death squad wherever you can and keep an eye out on the

03:08:16.760 show on our socials at David El Corbo on Twitter and, um, for announcements for Bohemian Grove.

03:08:23.280 I hope you guys will come back because, uh, I would love for you guys to be a part of this

03:08:27.060 thing going forward. I think we're building this really awesome community and, um, and it was so

03:08:31.640 good to do it with you last time. Uh, so you guys always have an open door and I mean, we'll be

03:08:35.820 knocking soon to try to schedule you guys. If you'll come. Yeah, man, we appreciate that.

03:08:40.320 And you guys, anytime you guys want to reach out, we are always there for it. And at definitely

03:08:44.580 we will be at the next Bohemian Grove. It was a wild time. Definitely a time that I'll

03:08:48.440 never personally forget, but, um, but yeah, we appreciate you guys. Seriously. Put the pieces

03:08:55.220 of my life back together in a parking lot. Yeah. I'm still trying to grab little, little pixels

03:08:59.860 of reality to try and make a fucking picture. I'm going to be real with you. Hey, and thank

03:09:03.660 God that the boy, the man, the myth, the legend of hippie Jimmy was in the parking lot that night

03:09:08.820 in that critical moment in Jonathan's life, like a wind from the far West, this old cat with the

03:09:14.520 tie dye shirt comes up as a post DMT Sherpa to just calm the waves, bro. I'm just saying it was an

03:09:21.100 experience. The entire Bohemian Grove was wild. It was a great time. Um, and it is a nerve wracking

03:09:28.380 thing to try to put together, but it seems to crush every time. I think this time we're going

03:09:32.520 to try to get, uh, Tripoli and Eddie Bravo, uh, to headline. That's the goal. That's who we're

03:09:37.960 shooting for. Um, and then there's going to be another headliner the second night. So they're

03:09:42.340 going to be headlining Bohemian Grove, the conspiracy night, and then we'll have a different

03:09:45.500 vibe for the comedy night. So that's it guys. Uh, go and check us out. Nephilim death squad and keep

03:09:51.200 an eye out for Bohemian Grove announcements. Awesome, man. We appreciate you guys big time. Well, look,

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03:11:14.280 algorithms see across all of our listening platforms, the more we get promoted to more potential

03:11:17.960 listeners who could then become potential cult members like the rest of you find, ladies and

03:11:20.980 gentlemen. And while you're at it and you're in that clickety clickety mood with your thumbs and

03:11:25.020 you're giving them five-star reviews and things, go check out Jonathan's other show, Meta Mysteries,

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03:11:37.520 boost these algorithms, ladies and gentlemen, and let's do this thing. We thank you for everybody

03:11:41.340 who's already gone and done so. And with that being said, this was another beautiful episode of

03:11:45.940 The Cult of Conspiracy. And my name's Jonathan.

03:11:49.260 I'm Jacob.

03:11:49.780 And there's one very important, extremely vital piece of information we need you to learn just

03:11:53.000 as soon as humanly possible. Open up that third eye.

03:11:58.440 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly

03:12:06.860 telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes

03:12:13.260 is what there is to see, you've got them. Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation

03:12:19.500 that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening. And they have.

Nephilim Death Squad - January 01, 2025

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