152： The Dark Side of the Alien Abduction Phenomenon w⧸ Fringe
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 37 minutes
Words per Minute
175.98827
Summary
In this episode of The Nedealim Death Squad, David Lee Corbo and Top Lobster are joined by Fringe to discuss the alien abduction phenomenon. Fringe is a writer, podcaster, and host of the popular podcast, Fringe There She is Boom.
Transcript
00:00:00.480
At FanDuel Casino, you get even more ways to play.
00:00:04.160
Dive into new and exciting games and all of your favorite casino classics,
00:00:11.620
Get more on FanDuel Casino. Download the app today.
00:00:15.180
Please play responsibly, 19 plus and physically located in Ontario.
00:00:18.120
If you have questions or concerned about your gambling or the gambling of someone close to you,
00:00:21.240
please contact Connect Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge.
00:00:39.200
News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.
00:00:44.160
We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
00:00:51.840
And the chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely enormous.
00:01:03.400
But no one's saying shit what happened to the home of the brave
00:01:08.600
And no one's talking about how they made a spot of these slaves
00:01:13.820
Head in the clouds and want to wake up to a dead in the grave
00:01:16.800
But unless you may, we need to be ready to raise up
00:01:24.140
That the government releasing poison in their hands
00:01:26.780
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad
00:01:34.540
That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation
00:01:37.800
Before we get into today's guest, I would just like to remind all of our live viewers
00:01:44.680
We'll be going live exclusively to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad
00:01:52.600
Gaining early access to the episode for the general public
00:02:02.980
And then get out before the billing cycle kicks in
00:02:15.100
That's patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad
00:02:23.180
Fringe, for the audience who may not be familiar with you
00:02:25.620
Let them know a little bit about what it is you focus on
00:03:22.520
Somebody who's experienced the abductee phenomenon
00:34:19.380
to get up on this bed it's known that i'm going to get this test half the test that it is known
00:34:25.540
that they're giving me it's not even true it's not real i don't i don't even know you know the
00:34:30.420
ultimate purpose for some of it so to answer your question i think things were just starting to leak
00:34:38.340
through i was just starting to notice they're they're lying to me i'm not getting xyz test um
00:34:45.060
it's very very difficult to put into words it's it's all just experience and kind of just being in
00:34:52.740
that environment well it sounds like fringe that you maintain some level of discernment um and that
00:35:00.180
really the problem is it's an amazing experience and we don't have any sort of um reference point
00:35:07.860
for it and and christianity in so many ways as far as the organized church goes does not have
00:35:13.700
the tools or the answers for this phenomenon and so through that amazement it's like your
00:35:19.300
discernment still works but you see something that you are led to believe doesn't exist and uh
00:35:26.100
your critical thinking skills become they take a backseat to just taking that information in
00:35:30.900
high-level con men yeah yeah i could see that um so what was your even your question um well i was
00:35:38.740
saying what what were the messages that they were conveying to you that were so important to spread and
00:35:43.220
how did the counter information what in what way did it counter it so the message i was the messages
00:35:49.380
i was getting uh coming from the outside so i end up uh this is such i don't know if i've told
00:35:56.500
the story me my husband just randomly walk into a crystal shop i was actually kind of called into
00:36:02.020
the shop and again how many times i'm going to say i know it sounds bizarre so we go into this crystal
00:36:07.860
shop a lady walks up to us and she is just like magnetized to us from across the shop she starts
00:36:15.460
telling us all kinds of stuff like we stuff about past lives and past lives in egypt you know that my
00:36:23.940
husband is um has the power of potiphar that we have had many lives together and her spirit guides start
00:36:33.220
talking to her and telling her all kinds of stuff so i am being funneled down this road of and there's
00:36:39.140
no other other way to say it other than being a starseed she told us you your your purpose is to
00:36:45.460
spread this message and she kind of starts pumping us full of this elizabeth april stuff um there's this
00:36:51.460
guy named uh shakara some some guy um and she starts sending us stuff and she wants to work with us
00:37:01.380
and it just gets really weird um so some of the messages are coming from outside some of them are
00:37:07.540
coming from her spirit guides and from outside uh now the messages i was getting that were just being
00:37:15.460
downloaded into my brain um they were different they were things like i was getting messages on
00:37:23.220
energy um i was getting lessons on how to time travel uh there i got a lesson on how demons feed
00:37:33.060
so i would have to open up my journal and kind of go through and say what were these lessons i was
00:37:38.120
learning but what was happening was i was laying down at night and getting into that liminal state um you
00:37:44.580
know mind awake body asleep type state and it was almost immediate i would get a geometric shape
00:37:50.620
and i have them all kind of drawn not all of them but i have them drawn somewhere and the shape would
00:37:57.340
kind of take over my mind and then that shape i would call it a um people that people call them
00:38:02.980
downloads but it was like a drop box of information and the information would just be drop boxed into my
00:38:09.640
head and in that those moments i would know the all the secrets of the of the universe
00:38:14.380
and but by the time i woke up in the morning and or i went to write it down even sometimes that night
00:38:22.160
that would kind of disappear and i would just be left with the general just the general knowledge
00:38:27.120
that was coming through and so that was happening but was what was also happening was i was getting
00:38:34.140
again for lack of a better word downloads i was getting downloads on christ i was getting downloads
00:38:42.380
on how the big picture works i i was getting downloads on what are these creatures how do they fit in
00:38:51.400
what is this like random stuff and i have you know some stuff written down where i would lay down
00:38:57.920
and immediately sit back up because something just got dropped into my mind about jesus
00:39:04.200
and i start writing all that stuff in my journal so now here's the thing i look at all of that stuff
00:39:11.180
in the same way i don't know where that was coming from i don't know if those are good entities i don't
00:39:17.240
know if those are negative entities i don't know the agenda of these messages that were coming through
00:39:21.900
i mean i got i was just looking through my journal today because i was coming on your guys's show
00:39:27.460
um this wasn't a download so this happened more in that astral dreamscape i was approached by a very
00:39:36.120
a tall blonde male uh entity it was telepathic so it wasn't human and it was one of those things where
00:39:45.760
it presented itself to me and i challenged it immediately because by this time i'm calling bs
00:39:50.280
on all of my experiences i'm like you are not what you're pretending you are and i'm just calling it
00:39:54.600
right now and sure enough most of the time they would actually devolve into their i think their true
00:40:00.760
state i don't have a way of knowing that for sure so this entity presents itself and i put out my bs
00:40:06.260
meter to it and this is just a telepathic exchange and it approaches me and tells me and these are not
00:40:13.580
words it's just now known uh that christ is coming back it's kind of a he's coming back come hell or high
00:40:19.240
water and y'all better be ready type of a message so that's something that happened um so i could look at
00:40:27.060
that and say okay could this be a nefarious entity trying to lead me down the wrong road
00:40:31.700
maybe but the message doesn't seem like it right that seems like that would be a good the good side
00:40:39.220
of the phenomenon of what we would call it in ufology christians could say that was maybe an angel
00:40:44.140
i mean i have no idea what that entity was and so all these things are kind of happening at once
00:40:50.460
and it's back to back to back i went i went i don't even know a couple of years without any breaks
00:41:00.820
like this stuff was coming at me every single night or at least most nights a week i was getting
00:41:07.440
bombarded by both sides so i'm getting that message that you know these are just our space brothers from
00:41:13.900
outer space and you need to go spread the word and by the way they're doing the the the abductions
00:41:19.100
and the hybrids that's for our own good right yeah i'm getting that on one side and on the other
00:41:24.160
side i'm starting to see through it and question it and that's when i realized that they were all
00:41:29.840
once i started getting punished for questioning the narrative is when all of the curtains you know
00:41:37.000
were dropped and they weren't even pretending anymore so fringe it sounds almost like um well you
00:41:42.640
certainly ended up in a bit of a tug of war and um i don't want to use past tense because you said
00:41:47.520
this is still a phenomenon that's occurring to this day but the proliferation or the the um frequency
00:41:54.620
of this happening almost suggests a sense of urgency and that's just what i'm picking up you know maybe
00:42:01.980
it's because i see things through the lens that i have but we just had the second ever congressional
00:42:06.780
hearing on on the uap ufo phenomenon it's very clear that the government is gearing up to
00:42:14.120
do something and i don't know what they're doing but i have a feeling that it's going to include
00:42:18.760
highly advanced space homies from another galaxy that have a vested interest in us not destroying
00:42:26.560
ourselves in nuclear war are you saying we're on the verge of a golden age david is that what you're
00:42:32.420
getting right well that's the thing is i don't know how aware you are of this fringe but within the
00:42:36.440
occult worlds there are characters that are uh you know pretty famous and characters like alice bailey or
00:42:43.420
uh helena blavatsky uh these occultists predicted long ago that the year 2025 would be the coming of
00:42:51.920
a golden age which is a terminology we see getting thrown around today by the trump administration
00:42:56.340
and that um i think it's baba vanga who is uh a clairvoyant she's long since passed uh but she was
00:43:05.500
kind of a little babushka lady you know with the like a grandma uh iconic grandma figure uh from i don't
00:43:11.320
know bavaria some some very obscure place but either way she was a world famous psychic who
00:43:16.660
predicted a number of things successfully including her own death the death of princess diana 9-11 and
00:43:22.040
a couple of other big events but she also determined that in 2025 we would have encounters with aliens
00:43:28.860
and so a lot of things are pointing to 2025 which probably flavors my opinion that i've come to where
00:43:35.920
it seems that there's um a sense of a sense of urgency did you ever feel like that was the case
00:43:41.340
so i feel that now so i now have a sense of urgency um to counteract the narrative that's out there
00:43:54.140
so just like you come across uh most abductees come across you come across or are many i mean the
00:44:00.900
percentage is pretty high of abductees who believe that they're trying to get the message out there
00:44:05.520
that you know we're all going to send a 5d we have to be ready for the cataclysm and all this by the
00:44:09.500
way i've had cataclysmic dreams my whole life i've seen that wave that comes and supposedly hits you know
00:44:14.660
the east coast oh my god i've had the same dream and taps had the same dream that's the dream
00:44:20.240
like an evangelical christian this the dream of the wave it's insane every by the way i've since
00:44:29.220
moved to florida since all those years ago where i had that dream that dream notably took place while
00:44:33.840
i was in florida um i remember that and i remember surviving it somehow miraculously i i held on to a
00:44:39.620
street lamp which makes no sense you can't swim you can't swim no you can't swim don't do that to
00:44:44.900
the people they know you can't swim um so so that cataclysm dream can you tell us a little bit about
00:44:51.240
that because that that does play into this bigger picture we're doing a kind of a unraveling of a
00:44:56.540
narrative hey david uh you're giving we're also giving this away for free oh that's right yeah people
00:45:01.380
are watching and they shouldn't be watching guys we are now at the 45 minute look at this is what
00:45:06.300
they're watching right here they're watching the hair yeah there's hair it's happening she has better
00:45:10.780
hair than top i agree um guys we are now at the 45 minute mark and unfortunately if you'd like to
00:45:15.760
continue uh enjoying this conversation and being part of the live chat enjoying an ad-free experience
00:45:20.300
then you've got to go to patreon.com backslash nephalem death squad you can sign up there for
00:45:24.220
free and you continue uh watching this episode live at patreon.com backslash nephalem death squad
00:45:30.260
sign up for the seven dollar free or i'm sorry the seven day free trial and uh get out before the
00:45:35.300
billing cycle kicks in it's fine you can do another way you can also find a certain somebody on here
00:45:40.460
and and you can finish for free also over there too so you know your choice dealer's choice go
00:45:45.300
ahead and follow fringe at uh on twitter and uh we'll see you guys on the other side so let's
00:45:51.260
continue bye bye so so wait i gotta go back so you said ask me about the urgency and then i have the
00:45:57.760
cataclysm right so the urgency for me so most abductees have the urgency there there is an urgency it feels
00:46:04.720
like a monkey on your back um but my urgency and i it was really bad last year number one the urgency
00:46:12.160
is to get ready for the apocalypse right um and i've had that since i was about 15 years old
00:46:17.660
but number two my urgency is to get the message out that these creatures are not our friends
00:46:25.180
um that the aliens and and i'll i'll keep it you know narrowly focused the so-called aliens snatching
00:46:33.580
us out of our beds at night creating the hybrid race they are not our friends right and we need to
00:46:37.660
stop making excuses for them we need to stop uh inviting them in we need to stop you know doing
00:46:44.160
things like ce5 to call them in for dinner um so that's where my urgency is which is interesting
00:46:50.220
because most abductees are on the other side i'd say it's even upwards of 85 percent of abductees
00:46:56.060
eventually will uh embrace their abductions and and if you the survey say that they wouldn't even
00:47:04.480
change it um i am not that person i would stop it tomorrow if i could well yes i mean you could
00:47:12.520
definitely apply that and so my urgency is on the other side uh to get the word out you need to stop
00:47:19.960
stop them by stop doing ce5 which is what our government wants us to do right now which is
00:47:23.880
insane um and there's a whole campaign right now for everybody to go out and call the aliens in from
00:47:29.420
outer space so that's my by the way right telepathically yes um so that's my urgency which is the opposite of
00:47:37.800
most abductees most abductees want you know their urgency is to warn that we're damaging our the
00:47:43.720
environment and that we're gonna you got to be ready for ascension and that the there are space
00:47:47.920
brothers our friends on the cataclysmic side so i when i was 15 years old i had a shared dream with
00:47:56.960
a friend of mine now my we were both very young and we had some very interesting things happening to us
00:48:04.000
during that period we had played with a ouija board and we had some wild stuff happening matter of fact
00:48:09.780
i hit her up maybe a couple of months ago and just reach out to her and said hey do you remember
00:48:15.560
and she said not only did she remember she reminded me of some other stuff that had been happening
00:48:20.660
during that time so me and my friend have a shared dream about the pole shift like the apocalypse is
00:48:27.140
coming and this so this started when i was very young and i've just always had it in my awareness
00:48:34.560
that the apocalypse is coming like christ is coming back in my lifetime and look i said this before
00:48:40.920
every generation kind of thinks that same way right the end of the world is coming you know so that's
00:48:45.580
you know not necessarily unusual and i've always had these cataclysmic dreams one of them is the wave
00:48:51.320
dream it's not very um it's not a whole lot to talk about most of the time i'm in a very like a very tall
00:48:58.860
high rise in new york city and a mile high wave comes for the city it's very much like the scene in
00:49:07.620
is that independence day i don't remember the um the day after tomorrow day after tomorrow okay
00:49:13.520
but i've seen a picture of it i even put it in my blog i think because i saw a picture i was like
00:49:18.880
that's it my dream also took place in a city okay so it's mind-blowing but i'm in a building
00:49:25.640
and i've actually had somebody analyze this dream and apparently because of where i am in the dream and
00:49:32.460
i don't get killed in the dream like i'm not hanging on to a light post you mentioned the wave
00:49:37.580
just comes and it doesn't get to me um so but i've had variations of that dream in other places too
00:49:46.280
i've had just the mega quake dreams uh one one of those was in las vegas another one i was in san
00:49:53.300
diego um but planes falling out of the sky bridges collapsing any calamity you could possibly imagine
00:49:59.800
i've been having these dreams for my whole life now i didn't realize that almost all abductees have
00:50:07.480
had these same dreams and the abduction research actually shows people who have been regressed
00:50:14.240
which by the way i've never had a regression to remember any of my um abduction encounters but
00:50:20.740
most abductees have had regression and the regression shows that they're actually sitting abductees down
00:50:27.180
in front of a screen and they're playing these cataclysmic events absolutely and what they're
00:50:36.020
doing is they're trying to get the buy-in they're trying they're trying to tell the abductee this is
00:50:41.700
what's coming and this is going to be your fault by the way it's our fault like we control the sun
00:50:46.560
right because the sun's going to micro nova and we're going to have a pole shift that is completely out
00:50:50.980
of our control uh this is coming it's your fault and but don't worry we're going to save you from it
00:50:58.200
and all you have to do is kind of embrace us and be on our team so it's a it's a propaganda videos that
00:51:04.180
they're showing um during abductions is this the same thing i experienced i don't know i i i experienced
00:51:10.320
it as dreams as cataclysmic dreams that i've been having for a very the dream started when i was very
00:51:16.040
very young and then the pole shift thing started when i was about 15 like the pole shift is coming
00:51:21.440
well so there's an urgency if the pole shift is coming there's an urgency like right now i'm building
00:51:29.040
a bunker so that's the urgency you know to be ready be prepared have everything you can have i have a
00:51:35.540
little tiny prepper community uh on my twitter feed it's mostly just for fun but there's that urgency
00:51:43.540
when it comes to that as well like something's coming some actually i've i've heard it audibly
00:51:50.020
be ready like something's coming be ready there's two things here uh david we just interviewed somebody
00:51:56.640
uh this guy citizen d and he is he's a person that's been doing crop circles so he claims that
00:52:03.140
the crop circles that we see at least most of them are man-made but the interesting part of this is that
00:52:08.180
they are uh for lack of better words they're downloads like the people who who craft these
00:52:15.300
uh these circles are getting downloads of uh what shapes to make in what specific field and when to
00:52:22.640
do it and uh i asked him toward the end of the episode i said well why now because he's been retired
00:52:28.520
from it for like 15 10 15 years i said why are you coming out now why the urgency now and he expressed
00:52:33.660
the same thing he was like something about this it's like it's got to get out now but i think he's
00:52:38.700
working on the other side of it in my opinion because i i was a little tricky i showed him uh
00:52:42.980
i showed him a picture of the lesser keys of solomon i was like do you recognize any of these shapes and
00:52:47.360
he's like oh yeah make that one on the right right there i was like oh okay that's like a sigil for a
00:52:50.920
demon and they just have you like putting that in the cornfield somewhere i was like that's
00:52:55.200
kind of crazy but yeah the urgency is is there and it's being pushed from every single side it's
00:53:01.100
it's wild fringe you've you've stepped in this thing that's why there was such this
00:53:05.180
dramatic reaction from top and i when you said bullshit because that is the conclusion that we
00:53:09.580
came to um the anyad we told you about warning about the cataclysm uh ufo abductees uh getting
00:53:17.100
this download about this cataclysm even the the the telepathy um nonverbal autistic children same exact
00:53:23.660
thing and then i found the connective tissue in a huge way um in everybody's favorite artist
00:53:29.660
self-proclaimed autist who wants to put a chip in your brain who just you know trademarked the terms
00:53:35.180
telepathy and and telekinesis for that chip that he's going to put in your brain elon musk
00:53:39.900
there's a video that we've shown on this on this uh show several times now he is in an interview with
00:53:45.760
some podcasters who are otherwise unaware of what he's really saying but he's just expressing his
00:53:50.740
concern that the earth goes through these cycles yada yada yada and then he lets slip
00:53:54.420
that um even the poles have shifted position and if that sort of thing were to happen again
00:54:00.180
the moon wouldn't even be far enough you'd have to go to mars so everybody knows that elon musk is
00:54:05.520
obsessed with going to mars but nobody knows that that's why because he's worried about a coming
00:54:11.140
polar shift and so that was and and i don't know what to elon is also obsessed with uh like you know
00:54:18.340
designer babies and ivf which is another rabbit hole but i don't think it's for this it's not
00:54:24.340
it's not another it's the same rabbit hole the hybridization program uh and so what what i don't
00:54:31.140
know which is you know one of many many things that i don't know um is is the polar shift real
00:54:38.480
and if it is then are they trying to avoid the tribulation
00:54:46.000
okay uh i think it is real and so it's only been the last two or three years so maybe
00:54:55.440
i'm just making this up maybe two or three years ago i had a huge uh monkey on my back like you have
00:55:04.960
got to be ready and and it got really weird because my husband actually uh joined me in this
00:55:10.280
so he was actually feeling the urgency as well where we actually sold a couple of high value items
00:55:16.180
and went and got every single thing you could possibly imagine for our current circumstances
00:55:21.140
uh to be prepared and to be prepped and ready for for any kind of cataclysm anything that could happen
00:55:27.080
um but it's only been the last couple years that my paranoia about the pole shift started
00:55:34.400
actually getting out there and that's just for my own awareness it's probably been out there longer
00:55:38.340
than that but even the story the adam and eve story of the cia stuff did you guys watch the y files on
00:55:43.820
the adam and eve story i've not i've heard about it but no real knowledge on it well when i saw that i
00:55:48.980
just went you're kidding me so i the pole shift is actually real this is maybe gonna happen um you
00:55:54.940
know have i mean there are people we had a sun weatherman ben davidson in a space have you guys ever
00:56:00.520
talked to that guy yeah you want to hear about the pole shift bring that guy reached out to me
00:56:04.440
and um and he thought that i was somebody else much to my dismay so that's about as far as that
00:56:08.540
he thought i was paul stobbs he he dm'd us actually on our and he said is uh is this paul stobbs show and
00:56:14.660
then he said ah no it's not my bad i said it's okay you know if you're persistent with him you'll get
00:56:18.920
him i mean we got him in a space on twitter he did a space and so when i started realizing wait a
00:56:25.440
minute there's actual science out there to support the pole shift and i'm not the brain to pick when
00:56:30.800
it comes to that but someone like ben davidson is for sure there's actual science out there right
00:56:35.660
now showing that we are probably in the middle of an electromagnetic excursion as we speak they're
00:56:41.260
no longer really weird yeah geographical north and magnetic north are no longer synced as of right
00:56:47.300
now they are this year the amount of planes that have just crashed or like just went went haywire
00:56:52.900
it's i mean the rock his plane almost just crashed just today or yesterday or something so this is
00:56:57.100
like something's going on i saw this incredibly compelling theory that the movie um leave the
00:57:02.160
world behind was not about a terrorist attack but if you pay attention to the strange details it's
00:57:06.620
actually about uh a polar shift and the reason yeah planes falling out of the sky exactly the animals
00:57:13.080
behaving oddly suddenly walking up like the deer are walking up to the children um and so they it seems
00:57:18.840
that they take advantage of it in some way shape or form there's like a nuke that's dropped at one
00:57:22.260
point but uh if you pay attention to the film there's little cues in the background and some
00:57:27.000
of the dialogue and then some of those strange happenings like the plane nose diving and such
00:57:30.340
and the animals behaving that suggest this is actually about a polar shift yeah so imagine my
00:57:35.680
surprise when i come start coming across the actual science now confirming something that i've
00:57:40.280
been waiting for since i was 15 so i i think it is real um how it plays out i don't know i mean
00:57:47.520
we could just look at uh the scriptures and see that something terrible this is going to happen
00:57:53.640
uh somewhere in the book of revelation now some people take that book and say you know some things
00:57:59.640
might have already happened some things might be happening in the future maybe a little bit of both
00:58:04.400
but there's some cataclysm happening in that book so for me uh i think it it's very real i don't
00:58:11.600
think it's so i think they're using something real as propaganda and that's generally what they do so
00:58:17.340
these so-called space brother space brother aliens a lot of times you know they don't just flat out
00:58:22.180
lie they're using truth and mixing in with their lies like if you're talking to an a counter
00:58:27.300
intelligence agent they're not going to just feed you a spoonful of lies they actually feed you a lot
00:58:32.000
of truth and then you know you've got that 20 lie that serves their agenda and it's much easier to
00:58:37.320
swallow that way i think human beings can generally recognize a flat out lie but they have a harder
00:58:42.560
time recognizing something that's wrapped in truth so i think that it there is something to it i don't
00:58:47.820
know if it will happen in our lifetimes or not but i think there's now evidence out there to support
00:58:54.740
it happening in the past and it's probably going to happen in the future um i think that i mean just
00:59:02.000
look at our own government i mean we've got tons of you know underground military bases and we have
00:59:09.300
people even in ufology with golden tickets in case that the cataclysm hits so i think it's real and but
00:59:18.120
i think it's also being used as propaganda yeah we often say we use a euphemism that the uh the chat
00:59:25.200
knows it's nine truths and one lie right they tell you a litany of truth and then once you they gain
00:59:31.080
your trust and you know you find this this narrative palatable uh that's when they feed you that one
00:59:35.740
lie and so that's something that we see a lot which begins to cause a little bit of a problem when it
00:59:40.700
comes to sort of the new age movement or or or gnostic principles and things like that or let's say like
00:59:45.860
practices like numerology or um you know things of that nature uh astrology it's like crystals right
00:59:53.460
like well even the crystals yeah it's like they didn't make those things they inverted them
00:59:58.220
these seem to be principles that are i don't know ways to describe the realm that we inhabit right
01:00:04.060
like numerology the fact that there does seem to be some recurring uh number coincidences i guess you
01:00:10.000
would call them uh and the elites do seem to manipulate those numbers they do things on a
01:00:14.180
specific date and a specific you know geolocation and and there's all these numbers encoded right and
01:00:19.880
so um i think that there's even a lot of truth in those things it's just a matter of how it's been
01:00:25.920
where's the inversion where's the lie you know and and i don't know if we are equipped nowadays to
01:00:32.000
parse out that lie just because we've been stripped so so uh so much of our spiritual understanding but
01:00:37.120
or if we like a question that we ask often is like should we even be uh looking into these things so
01:00:44.360
not necessarily looking into them but like you know the ability to astral project or be lucid in
01:00:49.600
your dreams is something that's innate to every human being if you want to do it and the question is like
01:00:55.460
are we supposed to i like i'm not sure are we supposed to just stay here and keep our head
01:01:00.140
down because there's a lot of stuff going on out there that we should probably be aware of there's
01:01:03.360
going to be a lot of lies that we need to know but the more you look into this stuff the more it looks
01:01:06.980
back at you and yeah that that can get a little dangerous right are we not meant to notice i don't
01:01:12.100
know um yeah i say that a lot i i don't think we are meant for these things in this life i really
01:01:19.020
don't uh when it comes to all the new age stuff that i ended up getting into there's a lot of truth
01:01:24.400
in what the new agers tell us there's a lot of truth you know in uh human beings probably being
01:01:30.480
antennas and in energy and in manifestation and all these these new age principles but
01:01:37.040
is that really what we're supposed to be doing because anytime we're engaging in any of these
01:01:42.520
um new age practices it turns into some kind of contact modality and you end up with some kind
01:01:47.840
of entity attachment and there's so there's probably a reason we're not supposed to be doing those
01:01:52.320
things um you know this whole idea of we need to upgrade our consciousness and we need to ascend you
01:01:57.820
know into the 5d yeah no i don't think so i think i'm actually supposed to stay right here in my
01:02:02.700
physical body without dissociating and without you know trying to send myself to some other realm
01:02:08.080
and actually maybe i'm just supposed to master the physical realm i'm here in the physical realm for
01:02:13.460
a reason in a physical body for a reason maybe i need to master this before thinking about you know
01:02:19.980
trying to master or or dive into other realms that's how i think about it i think there's a
01:02:25.260
reason that we uh as a christian myself i think there's a reason we are encouraged and perhaps
01:02:32.000
even forbidden from engaging in these contact modalities because it's not safe uh that's my
01:02:37.620
personal opinion on all of it it seems like these these things were this sort of knowledge was really
01:02:42.780
meant for the angels and not for us we're we're here engaging in this physical realm this realm is for
01:02:47.500
us and and we're supposed to i guess just operate within the bounds and restrictions that have been
01:02:53.220
created for us but then you know these entities come along and they they provide us something a
01:02:57.200
little bit different it seems right now that there's this real merger of technology in the
01:03:04.180
spiritual realm it really always has been but i think um sort of the apex of it might be what's
01:03:10.580
like i saw that trials are officially beginning for uh neurolink volunteers there's actually a post
01:03:17.860
from the official neurolink page here on x today and when i look at that the that technology and its
01:03:25.140
spiritual implications are huge especially that it's coming from ilan musk and what we just laid out
01:03:29.760
about him but it seems that that's always been the mo that's something that top and i discuss here on
01:03:35.840
this show often is that when you look at ancient cultures and their developments they're often
01:03:40.940
attributed to some sort of deity and those those developments are rudimentary at first it's like
01:03:46.340
metallurgy and agriculture right and that's how they get to stand on their feet but it seems like these
01:03:51.640
entities have been playing an incredibly long game where they had to get us sufficiently advanced
01:03:56.760
by teaching us these things and ideally get us to the point where we can interact with them or maybe
01:04:04.700
even bridge the gap maybe even free them i don't know um by way of technology and they have to tell
01:04:11.780
you also like if you ask they have to tell but it's also there's this weird form of consent so back to
01:04:16.780
andreja puharic he was doing his work in the 50s to the 70s and in 77 you have project stargate or
01:04:22.960
operation stargate which was at a dia program where they're you know they were doing remote viewing
01:04:28.680
on russia during the cold war but really what they were doing was uh contacting aliens or channeling
01:04:34.020
entities now donald trump comes in and all of a sudden we have a 500 billion dollar uh bill that's
01:04:41.560
going to fund ai and it's going to be called uh operation or project stargate same name and in my
01:04:48.460
opinion it's it's the same thing it's just a instead of using you know in the 70s the the channelers
01:04:55.340
were using things like ouija boards or even sex sexual magic practices to do these summonings and
01:05:00.460
rituals now we're using you know chat gpt and it's it's kind of the same exact thing but more
01:05:08.680
technological it feels like they're closer to their end game of whatever they're getting at
01:05:12.540
getting this inside of your head inside of your body to take over your spirit soul or um what are
01:05:19.500
the three we have a body spirit soul right i think it's almost like a a consent thing right it's like
01:05:25.200
they don't have rights over us we could grant them rights and we often do unwittingly but ultimately
01:05:31.540
through the name of jesus christ they can be casted out they don't have any rights over and they has that
01:05:37.200
worked for you fringe it has never worked for me and i've been to deliverance so um i think that there
01:05:47.640
are a lot of cases in the abduction research where that has worked but there are also many cases where it
01:05:54.380
hasn't and i look at these so-called aliens uh as an intermediary between the spiritual realm and the
01:06:02.300
physical realm they're very physical you might as well look at them as human traffickers um could you
01:06:08.120
pray human trafficking away perhaps you know the will of god be done has it ever happened has anyone
01:06:14.280
ever prayed human trafficking away or for it to stop um and so i think that there are many reasons why it
01:06:21.920
might not work which i understand now i didn't understand it at the time um so yeah sometimes
01:06:28.840
it works sometimes it doesn't but just remember these are physical creatures we're dealing with
01:06:32.980
they might be metaphysical but they're physical creatures and so
01:06:36.260
sometimes i say it like this um if you are a female college student and you've just left a bar
01:06:45.020
and you've had a couple of drinks you go decide to take a shortcut home to your dorm
01:06:48.900
you walk behind the alley and five men come out and grab you and they do not have good intentions
01:06:54.800
i know we're going to be on youtube so i'm not going to go too far they have no they do not have
01:06:58.740
good intentions and that woman that female she starts praying and it doesn't stop and it actually
01:07:07.960
happens and she's victimized right would we what do we say about that those were physical human
01:07:15.660
beings attacking her well these creatures are very very much the same now there is a whole realm of
01:07:21.100
creatures out there there's a whole realm there's a whole uh bunch of different creatures in the
01:07:25.520
unseen realm but when it comes to alien abduction specifically they're efficient they're very physical
01:07:31.560
they're coming they're coming for your physical body nine times out of ten well i shouldn't say that
01:07:36.120
you know even if it's half the time that it's physical and half the time it's just they're just
01:07:40.280
abducting the astral body um imagine a prayer stopping that also you know i did tony's show
01:07:48.420
my first podcast i ever did was tony merkel on the confessionals and there was a point where he looked
01:07:54.180
right at me and he said what about what about that story in daniel where he prayed for 21 days
01:08:00.040
before there was any intervention and so i i look at both of those things and uh
01:08:07.880
i like to just throw that into my answer so it has never stopped uh things happening to me
01:08:18.520
i'm beginning to suspect um well to to finish my line of thought before i i wonder if putting an
01:08:26.960
implant in your brain it seems difficult for spiritual entities to have rights over individuals
01:08:31.960
um not without going through a whole litany of potential consents in some instances but what then
01:08:38.820
if you put something foreign in the body and they have rights over that foreign object uh if it's
01:08:44.960
technology that they can inhabit and then that technology is inside of you does it bypass that somehow
01:08:50.680
the other thing is i've been looking at the grays i've come become comfortable with this idea that
01:08:57.180
they're a sort of a biomechanical thing they don't have reproductive organs they don't seem to have
01:09:01.920
any emotional range they seem like automatons like drones and and karen wilkinson describes them as being
01:09:06.680
uh left in a pile uh when she has one of her recollections of of an uh an abduction uh scenario
01:09:15.220
she said they were like discarded like when they're not in use they're just kind of piled up and they smell
01:09:20.140
bad um and so as comfortable as i am with that idea that these are not these are sort of an interface
01:09:27.380
if you will maybe they can be possessed or inhabited temporarily they do a job um these spiritual
01:09:33.180
entities are in a non-physical realm but maybe by way of the grays they can interact with this
01:09:39.100
physical realm to to whatever means or ends but then the question is well who created them and it makes
01:09:45.180
me wonder if like everything else we were commissioned to create them right yeah and that
01:09:53.540
now you're getting into a whole other rabbit hole right so but i think it's both so i think that these
01:10:00.480
are modern day nephilim for lack of a better term i think this the spiritual entities same ones came
01:10:07.120
down mated with humans in genesis 6 the same ones that started giving us technology and trying to
01:10:11.720
convince us we were god uh they're doing the same exact thing today right they're trying to convince
01:10:16.380
us all that we're actually god or god experiencing himself or you know whatever take they have um i think
01:10:23.780
that they at least the ancient ones at least the mantids have been created uh by them but in in there's
01:10:33.240
some evidence in the abduction research that the grays actually have human dna or part human human fetus
01:10:40.020
perhaps um but i think we're also creating them too i think we so humans and these nhi beings are
01:10:47.960
are working side by side in these underground bases i think we're also creating uh creatures like the
01:10:54.300
grays um i have come across grays who have some emotion you know they are flat but they're not
01:11:00.880
emotionless um but i've seen the research the abduction research saying that they're just hanging up
01:11:06.460
like um like a coat you know so there's that too um and there might be different types of grace but
01:11:13.640
i'm with you on the possibility that we're also creating them i mean so much of what they do is
01:11:19.600
through us right they're using human beings to to accomplish their agenda well that's something that
01:11:25.920
is espoused a lot within this christian conspiracy community is that they cannot create
01:11:31.860
um which is why they inspire right so uh throughout history we've been inspired you know endless times
01:11:39.980
um some of the most famous people and their works of arts will attribute the inspiration to that work
01:11:45.320
of art or for that work of art to some sort of download or some sort of uh you know something that
01:11:50.180
was outside certainly on this show i would say my own personal experience is one of uh i'm not
01:11:57.220
a tenacious researcher i don't have all the answers and information but seemingly ideas narratives and
01:12:04.680
and connections fall into my lap to the point where i can't even attribute them to myself at all um
01:12:10.640
stephen king i think believes i believe he attributes his works to uh coming to him in dreams
01:12:16.960
and in states of inebriation when he would fall asleep because he was a big drug user which of course
01:12:21.160
the drugs play a massive role in this it's it's funny because i have uh i've experienced
01:12:26.760
uh mushrooms before and there is this this soft inversion of the very same narrative that i received
01:12:35.500
which is we're all connected and we're going to ascend in some way shape or form and and very much
01:12:42.420
by the way that information was coming to me in just full stop it was coming to me it was not things
01:12:50.220
that i was thinking on my own these were things that were i was getting impressions and and uh and
01:12:55.860
information and so that theme it just seems to to permeate all these experiences from the alien
01:13:03.520
one to the you know what people perceive as spiritual to what happens in drug use and i want to ask you i
01:13:11.500
know that it's pretty clear your answer to this question that i'm about to ask but i i hope that you
01:13:16.820
can elaborate a little bit we spoke to somebody on this show and i forget his name um but he said that
01:13:25.060
this phenomenon is not physical it's a it's a spiritual one masquerading as a physical one
01:13:33.780
which in in some ways i do agree with but there's there's massive spirit uh physical implications and
01:13:39.680
when i asked him about this um phenomenon where people will be women will be impregnated
01:13:46.040
and and then they'll lose their pregnancy uh and they'll attribute it to it you know the baby being
01:13:51.660
removed from them and they'll have all kinds of things like the the doctor will say yeah you're
01:13:56.600
definitely pregnant and then weeks later or months later when they go back the doctor will say it
01:14:01.040
appears as if you were never pregnant which baffles them but he said that um it's not it's not out of
01:14:09.240
the realm of possibilities for the human body or the or the female body to actually absorb the fetus
01:14:14.140
which is i really don't know i'm not a medical practitioner but can you speak to just um
01:14:18.660
your interpretations on the physicality of this situation is it is it a reality is it only
01:14:24.280
um the grays that are physical when you are being removed is it your spirit that's being removed do
01:14:30.640
you ever get the sensation that it's actually your physical body in a different place are you are the
01:14:35.080
cryptid you said something about like cryptids or shadow people being the mediums the transporters
01:14:42.700
are are they physical are they spiritual yeah what do you what do you think okay so a couple things
01:14:48.920
so first you said they can't create and i i would beg to differ because they did create in genesis 6 they
01:14:56.000
created they created physical hybrid beings with humans and that's what i think they're still doing
01:15:03.180
so i think the mantids the mantids are running the show as far as the abductions go that doesn't
01:15:08.920
mean that they're running the entirety of the unseen realm but they're running the abduction show
01:15:12.900
i believe that they are hybridized beings so they are fantastic at uh doing the science they're
01:15:22.800
fantastic at getting a human egg and putting it into a petri dish and and scrambling it up with
01:15:28.300
whatever they want and then putting it back in so that's how they're creating so can they create
01:15:33.100
out of whole cloth maybe not i would say no and and in fact they have a very difficult time
01:15:38.320
reproducing on their own which is why they need us so just to that point um when it comes to is it
01:15:46.400
physical is it not physical so most christians and even a lot of the science uh the scientists who
01:15:55.260
are investigating this phenomenon believe that this is not a physical phenomenon they think it's all
01:16:00.760
spiritual it's all happening in the spiritual realm you know they're only taking perhaps our astral
01:16:06.340
body with the consciousness and you know messing with us in that way i believe that that is happening
01:16:11.980
but there's too much in the abduction research that that points toward an actual physical
01:16:18.860
um phenomenon they are creating physical hybrid beings they are making people i mean they're i think
01:16:29.620
it's ultimately going to be the soul trap that you talked about earlier when you were referring to
01:16:33.840
this telepathy tapes they're creating physical creatures we have in the abduction research we
01:16:40.120
have and some of these have happened to me if you wake up with your pants on backwards or inside out i
01:16:46.100
have woken up with grass in my bed um there there's always one story i tell because to me this i was in
01:16:54.900
your i was in those shoes for quite some time i was wondering is this only happening in my mind is it
01:17:01.000
only spiritual are they only taking my astral body because i can feel it when when they do it half
01:17:05.780
the time at least um i did have an instance where there was a while while i was sleeping with a camera
01:17:12.520
in my room and it wasn't the best camera i now know that i should have had a better camera but i was
01:17:17.000
sleeping with a camera in my room i was terrified uh to the point where i was sleeping in a helmet made of
01:17:23.980
velostap and by this time i think i had even oh probably not by this time at some point i even covered
01:17:30.100
that helmet with a faraday material because i at this point had an understanding that they were
01:17:35.520
using technology to access me this is not just spiritual so the spiritual realm by the way the
01:17:41.900
faraday it temper it kind of worked temporarily um this is a they're very technological they are
01:17:49.600
technologically advanced this is not just the spiritual realm they have technology in the spiritual
01:17:55.160
realm uh the technology that they're sharing with humans that's coming from somewhere it's coming
01:17:59.680
from them okay so there was an instance and i'm going to just tell two very quick stories i'm not
01:18:04.860
sure we have a little bit of time left so on this particular night i had put on a helmet and by this
01:18:11.860
time i had something like 16 layers or something of this velostap material on a helmet i wore it
01:18:18.020
religiously to sleep every single night and i had a scarf that i would put over the helmet it was
01:18:24.080
actually more of a baklava type thing and this thing had an emblem on it and i would put it on
01:18:29.860
exactly the same way every single night i would put the scarf on and i would go to bed and but at this
01:18:36.560
point i was i was a mess it was like i was in nightmare on elm street freddy krueger horrible things
01:18:42.600
were happening and so i i go to go to bed and i get a notice from my camera that the wi-fi has gone
01:18:49.740
out and i think oh crap you know what what could possibly happen the wi-fi has gone out that's not
01:18:57.160
good but i have the helmet on and i just say okay i'm gonna go to bed anyway i think that the wi-fi
01:19:02.520
went out at something like midnight and um the wi-fi was out for three and a half hours now during the
01:19:09.900
night i had the perception of being trapped in a portal like my consciousness was potentially uploaded
01:19:17.920
uh into almost it's almost like being uploaded into a computer screen yes i know how crazy that
01:19:25.300
sounds but i come to find out later that that's something that they actually do and so that happens
01:19:31.220
during the night i wake up in the morning and i immediately know something something's wrong and
01:19:37.080
i look and my helmet my scarf that was keeping my helmet on my body the emblem is in the wrong place
01:19:44.980
and i also have a bloody nose and so could that have been just an astral some type of astral
01:19:53.460
interference or non-physical perhaps but the fact that the wi-fi went out and my scarf was now
01:20:00.320
backwards i mean maybe i have did okay maybe um and that i had a bloody nose so those are the three
01:20:08.260
things that made me think this was probably more of a physical interaction i'm going to very briefly
01:20:13.600
tell you about a gal i'm and i consider her a friend at this point she's another abductee she went um she
01:20:21.820
went through a lot of research to figure this out for herself and without getting too graphic she ended
01:20:28.960
up using a material that is used in a sexual assault kit uh to to stain her body parts to find out if this
01:20:39.620
was actually happening physically or only in the spiritual realm and that evidence has now been
01:20:45.920
shown to someone who's making a documentary so um i think it is physical and i think if you look at
01:20:52.860
the abduction research people will start out believing that it's not physical um but you have people who are
01:20:58.780
locked out of their houses again you get grass in your bed you have dirt in your bed people come come
01:21:05.280
back to their houses with someone else's clothing um so i think that a lot of it is physical and i think
01:21:13.900
if we have any evidence at all the evidence actually supports that at least some of this is physical i will
01:21:20.700
say however that there are times when i don't even know because it is so real and so physical but yet i
01:21:30.280
felt them take my astral body out of my body and it's my perception that my physical body did not
01:21:38.120
leave the environment so there are abductees who believe everything is physical there there's a
01:21:44.260
researcher david jacobs if you're familiar with him he thought everything was physical and i think
01:21:50.560
it's somewhere in between so i think a lot of especially christians uh will try to say no this is just all
01:21:56.480
there's this is a spiritual attack you know you gave them permission you must not have had enough
01:22:00.560
faith in jesus you know get right with god you know that kind of thing there's that side of it where
01:22:06.600
they think everything's happening in the spiritual realm and then there's people who think it's only
01:22:10.900
physical and i think it's somewhere in between and i think there's there's some mystery there that
01:22:15.680
we probably can't even wrap our minds around yet ultimately i think it's physics that we don't quite
01:22:22.380
understand yet i would agree with that i think that there's there's some things that are just
01:22:28.020
beyond us uh in this in this state that we're in there's an interesting thing about the the telepathy
01:22:33.260
tapes uh a spoiler alert at the end one of one of the the kids uh ends up dying actually throughout
01:22:41.380
this uh throughout the time she was taping it and he dies in a bathtub or like a hot tub he just drowns
01:22:49.320
so when you're talking about this idea of uh like the spirituality versus the physicality i think it
01:22:56.980
i think it could be you're definitely right it's probably both i again i'm not going to go and
01:23:01.620
speculate that this guy there was foul play or whatever but he was traversing this realm he they
01:23:08.080
had pretty good evidence that he's talking to people in france telepathically on this this thing that
01:23:13.520
he called the hill but what else are you doing if you're in this other realm like where else can you
01:23:18.180
be wandering and also you don't know what's going on on that other side there like we're naive we think
01:23:23.120
we could just go there and like walk through and everything's okay i don't know man i think the more
01:23:29.000
you walk through you might get a visitor and it's just it's just a strange one it didn't sit right with
01:23:33.080
me didn't sit right uh friends you said something before we've we've touched on this idea of like a
01:23:39.880
soul trap or something like that and there's a lot of that in different belief systems um there are
01:23:46.980
people who believe that the moon is actually some sort of a it's it's meant to harvest souls and
01:23:52.540
that actually is what the the game pac-man is birthed out of which is pac-man is the moon and he's eating
01:23:57.640
ghosts um and then of course you have uh the idea of like reincarnation like a reincarnation trap which
01:24:05.000
like i'm not i i'm not so quick to say that reincarnation doesn't exist i i'm more quick to say i don't
01:24:12.100
think that we can just say souls are being recycled in their entirety from one physical form to the next
01:24:19.060
because so many people experience like being cleopatra or something like that and it's like
01:24:23.560
there maybe there's something else going on where we can access the experiences of somebody who lived
01:24:30.620
previously or or something like that but along with the reincarnation narrative does go this this idea
01:24:36.540
of a trap that we're being trapped in some sort of a cycle um and and then of course within the uh
01:24:43.400
alien abduction narrative there is a lot of talk like that that this this stealing of souls almost and
01:24:48.840
um i mean could you elaborate on that a little bit what gives you that impression that uh you know
01:24:57.540
that that that births the phrase soul trap so some of this was just being in their environment and and
01:25:07.360
getting these weird downloads um so number one have you guys heard of ted rice so he was an abductee
01:25:17.300
he's kind of an old he's he's an old timer and he worked with carla turner um so ted rice has seen
01:25:23.960
the aliens uh put like almost like a headphone device on abductees and they're basically downloading
01:25:31.400
the narrative of past lives and so is that the entirety of what's happening no but i think that
01:25:38.540
a lot of people believe that they're in a past life uh you know because of channeling and because
01:25:43.380
of doing this qhhht type past life regression stuff i think a lot of it is very similar to abductions
01:25:51.680
it's very similar when you start looking at things like near-death experiences
01:25:55.640
and the reincarnation and the past life stuff it's very similar to what's happening to abductees
01:26:00.560
um in the near-death research there are there are several cases that kind of make because i never
01:26:06.800
believed in reincarnation and then i did there are cases where you have kids who are coming up with
01:26:13.060
stuff that they just couldn't make up you know they're drawing a picture of their past life and the
01:26:16.740
school they went to and their parents and you know some newspaper article and all this kind of stuff
01:26:20.700
so you have that side of it but at the same time you have kids who believe that they lived the same
01:26:25.680
exact life you could have three kids who believed that they i'm not this is not what they believed
01:26:30.320
but they believed they were cleopatra right they lived the same exact life okay so how do we explain
01:26:35.080
that so i at this point i'm not convinced one way or the other on reincarnation i think it is a
01:26:42.700
possibility i think it's a possibility for at least some people um what i am convinced of is at least
01:26:49.660
half of it is nonsense from the actual aliens i mean when you have someone like ted rice who has
01:26:54.080
witnessed who has seen them planting past life memories into people uh how do you how do you trust
01:26:59.920
any of it at that point um so when it comes to the soul trap i'm you mentioned ai you mentioned
01:27:08.060
technology but i think it's coming from both sides so i think they're also coming at us from this hybrid
01:27:14.360
side and so whether reincarnation is real or not our souls are coming from somewhere and they're coming
01:27:20.020
into these physical bodies and just what they were doing with me it's so complicated to explain but i
01:27:27.720
knew uh before coming across any of the abduction research i knew it was known that they were trying
01:27:34.860
to reverse engineer the human soul and if they couldn't reverse engineer it they were going to tie it up
01:27:40.340
or trap it um and try to keep it for themselves i don't understand uh the entirety of how they're
01:27:48.260
going to do it but that was made known to me so what i think they're doing is i think that they have
01:27:56.480
very carefully um created these hybrids that are just enough human to actually house a human soul
01:28:04.180
but if you have any contact with these hybrids you very quickly understand that at least most of
01:28:11.440
them are sociopathic um they have no concept they're not even actually allowed to think about things like
01:28:17.740
god um and they're very much still tied tied into that hive mind you know you explained the grays
01:28:24.240
earlier as kind of the worker bee drone types um they're still tied into that system and so imagine
01:28:30.880
a creature that is part human that can a creature could house a human soul but this human soul is
01:28:39.660
actually tied up into the negative alien agenda and this hive mind um agenda and their ability then to
01:28:49.200
choose god or to think even to think that the thoughts are all controlled you cannot have a thought
01:28:54.880
in that environment uh a stray thought that it's not permitted and so imagine that these hybrids whether
01:29:02.600
there are still hybrids being born on the ships there's now some evidence to suggest that we have
01:29:07.620
hybrids being born on earth just straight to human women but they're hybrids um somewhat to your point on
01:29:15.080
the telepathy tapes although i would never want to single any of those kids out as being hybrids for sure
01:29:20.480
because that could start a whole weird winch hunt thing just like it could start with abductees um
01:29:25.940
but just imagine these hybrids being being tied into this this hive minded uh
01:29:32.100
network and not being able to choose god um whether they're born here or born on the ships
01:29:40.300
to me that's the ultimate soul trap and i think that's what they're trying to do i think that's what
01:29:47.740
they're trying to accomplish they're trying to take over the human race as we know it with their
01:29:53.500
hybrids and so imagine a human soul being born into that hybrid uh body and not being able to even
01:30:00.800
think about god or choose god they don't even have the inclination for it so um there is some
01:30:07.020
there is a researcher and i can't remember his name but he was instead of doing a past life regression
01:30:12.760
he was doing a forward life regression on people every single one of them were born into a hybrid
01:30:17.640
body and all they were doing was working and um yeah kind of creepy um so that's what i mean by the
01:30:26.300
soul trap and it could be happening on both sides on both ends i i don't think it's just one one
01:30:32.040
single thing yeah why don't you try one method uh right it reminds me in the book of revelation where
01:30:38.540
it says uh you know men will want to die but they'll be unable to it's like something to do with
01:30:44.660
this idea that you're fleshing out that's where that's where we're headed or at least that's where
01:30:49.020
they'd like us to head um well they do trade um i'm sorry they're known to trade uh longevity for
01:30:55.760
loyalty so there is going to be something to this so most of our elites are looking for immortality
01:31:01.400
yes um and there's going to be something to the ai you know transhumanism component it's going to
01:31:07.660
merge within the negative alien agenda is transhumanism yes and they're already doing it through their
01:31:13.440
hybrids you said that there's technology in the spiritual realm i think it's just worth noting
01:31:17.800
that even joe rogan himself says that one of the phenomenons he experiences when he does dimethyl
01:31:22.580
tryptamine which he popularized in a massive way is this um gifting of of really highly advanced
01:31:29.300
technology that in the moment he can conceptualize he can understand it um but he also knows that
01:31:35.940
whatever this is is so advanced he can't bring it into this realm and then of course when he comes
01:31:39.620
down off the trip he no longer remembers it but we have only a few minutes and i just want to ask
01:31:44.720
you one final question uh fringe were you a part of the gate program oh yeah that thank you for uh
01:31:51.060
carmen coming from the chat they've been asking us please ask this question so uh the answer to that
01:31:57.660
is no but my sister was in the gate in the gate program um what i will say is i do have some type of
01:32:06.320
mk ultra component to my experiences um the reptilian creatures i encounter call me by a number
01:32:13.720
so and being called by a number unbeknownst to me when i first came across this a couple years ago
01:32:20.080
i've now put out so many fillers and talked to a lot of different people at first i couldn't come
01:32:25.140
across any other experiencer or abductee being called by a number but it's actually i now understand
01:32:30.060
it's actually a thing in the programs you get assigned a number um so i was not in gate uh
01:32:37.460
but yeah i'm called by a number 18 number is 18 yeah and that also happens to be the day i was born
01:32:46.460
so there's also something have you guys talked to penny shepherd no penny shepherd not familiar with
01:32:52.660
her so penny shepherd believes that she was number 11 in the montauk project so i have some weird ties
01:32:59.560
two montauk and uh so the creatures i see look like the stranger things monster i've never seen
01:33:06.100
the show um but i with the flap head well so i end up seeing a an advertisement for stranger things
01:33:14.380
and i just went oh my gosh this is the creature these are the creatures i see and it's that really
01:33:18.960
weird reddish pinkish skin that looks like it was burned um so she penny shepherd believes that she's
01:33:28.700
number 11 from the montauk project now you have other people who who claim this as well right there
01:33:33.640
and i think there's more there could be more than one number 11 for the montauk project so penny shepherd
01:33:39.980
was that was also the day of her birth is the 11th of the month and so speaking with her i got a whole
01:33:48.200
lot of information from her that was very creepy and um i guess i'll just leave it at that i mean we
01:33:55.680
were kind of running out of time but yeah so i'm called by the number 18 and uh these are reptilian
01:34:01.860
creatures who look very very similar uh to the stranger things creature so there's some ties there
01:34:08.420
i don't know how it happened i'm still trying to figure it out for myself fringe will you come back
01:34:14.480
on the show i'd very much be interested in having you back um it feels like this episode in so many
01:34:23.500
ways was confirmation of this puzzle that we've been putting together here on nephilim death squad
01:34:30.520
and especially the whole polar shift and virtually all of it and it's refreshing to get it from
01:34:37.520
somebody who you know aren't just two idiots uh uh kind of theorizing yeah um because we don't know
01:34:45.420
what we're talking about and uh well i want to thank you for your time and i was looking forward to
01:34:51.020
this episode and rightfully so uh this has been fantastic we're gonna end up getting this out
01:34:55.860
probably about a week from now and uh i can't wait for everybody else to to hear this because
01:35:01.440
even though fringe multiple times throughout this episode while you were trying to say something you
01:35:07.340
would say i know this sounds crazy what you've done here is shown our audience that we're not crazy
01:35:14.360
you're not crazy we're all crazy maybe two years see like it only took two years yeah um so i mean
01:35:23.460
yeah unfortunately you have to bring it in for landing you're always welcome back i i really i'm already
01:35:27.720
looking forward to the next time but one more time where can people find you fringe because this
01:35:32.140
information is is important yeah you can find me on x exclusively on x twitter at fringe.com
01:35:40.100
and i actually have a little link there on my profile to some of the other interviews i've done
01:35:44.720
right there on youtube especially if it ends up on youtube the show will be linked there oh there's a
01:35:49.740
there's a merkle episode that was that was a banger all the ones that you've been on with uh
01:35:53.600
tony merkle man that's uh it's how we saw you but man what what an incredible story thank you for
01:35:59.080
thanks for spending the time with us i feel every time we get a guest of this caliber that comes and
01:36:03.900
tells us stuff i'm like man they have no idea how much time they're wasting talking with us but
01:36:07.820
we appreciate it if you had zero people watching right now i would have joined just because of
01:36:15.160
the name nephilim death squad you would have right there and if you ever get that actually going
01:36:21.540
please call me yeah oh no absolutely it's a placeholder until you know until whatever happens
01:36:28.860
happens uh yeah thank you fringe this has been fantastic and uh i think it's it's time to end this
01:36:34.280
top do we got anything else uh no until next time don't forget to obey submit and comply with your
01:36:39.680
alien gray overlords we'll see you later the greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the
01:36:47.360
corner of the room it is constantly telling us what to believe is real you can persuade us
01:36:54.000
that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see because they'll see the face of an expedition
01:37:03.200
that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening and they have