00:16:20.980Right. Uh, cause I guess, you know, something about this biology of this other creature
00:16:27.980made his immune system collapse and he got sick and died. So these are like cases where you have
00:16:34.440evidence, right? Um, these are not trust me, bro stories. And, um, and then you've got,
00:16:42.480you know, all these NASA related cases, which I, I did a whole series called secret space UFOs,
00:16:50.240where we focused on historical cases going all the way back to the SPX-15 missions,
00:16:59.040the very first NASA-designated astronaut missions where man flew into space for the first time.
00:17:06.040Then all the capsule missions, Gemini, Mercury, and Apollo,
00:17:13.960And all the astronauts encounters, pictures, DAC motion picture film evidence of anomalous objects, both in space and on the moon.
00:17:25.460And then after that, the Skylab, the STS space shuttle missions, the ISS missions, and everything in between, astronauts have a long history of reporting UFOs in space.
00:17:46.660Um, and I think that there's no cell phones up there now there are, but there weren't
00:17:55.160cell phones and there weren't, uh, you know, uh, people able to capture footage in space.
00:18:04.180Only this space administration was, and kind of like really clever sleuths of the early
00:18:10.360internet days put together all that evidence.
00:18:13.320And then I produced these documentaries about it. And, um, I think it's important that people look at that stuff as real, you know, that, that something's going on beyond our planet that is unexplained.
00:18:28.160And it could be, in my opinion, that there's stuff from either another civilization that predated us or extraterrestrial stuff, for lack of a better word, that's still swimming around up there.
00:18:48.660and we bumped into it and then tried to cover it up in space and keep it from the public eye
00:18:56.400because we're supposed to be the only ones, right? We're the only God's creation in all the stars
00:19:04.540and the universe, which is crazy. And then you have the hucksters and charlatans and the trust
00:19:15.080me bro people that seemingly got huge platforms and grew and became super popular in the ufo
00:19:25.340community your body is always giving you signals whoop helps you understand them whoop is the
00:19:31.560wearable health and fitness coach that provides personalized insights into your sleep recovery
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00:19:47.040and what might be holding you back listen to your body build better habits see where whoop can take
00:19:52.740you try whoop free for 30 days at whoop.com and i am interested in shining a light on those people
00:20:00.540Why? Well, because why should we spend our attention in this attention economy on people
00:20:13.880that obviously are not telling the truth or making shit up and can't prove anything,0.95
00:20:23.160um, typically want to sell you something, which is their own personal brand lecture,0.96
00:20:30.540content, yada, yada, yada. Fine, go ahead. But at least let us, because we live in a world of
00:20:38.900public speech, free speech, and a world where truth, the greatest truth should resonate to
00:20:49.140consensus reality. And for those of us that, you know, want to follow our lives with better logic
00:20:58.660and understand the world and the universe around us,
00:21:03.140we should follow those that are telling the absolute truth0.98
00:21:23.120One of those lines, in my estimation, you might not agree with this,
00:21:27.460But as long as the phenomenon has been taking place, we talk about the adduction phenomenon, and there's always been people who allege to be in communication with these entities, whatever they are.
00:21:37.800And one of the greater narratives that's emerged from all of that data is this idea of like the Galactic Federation of Light.
00:21:46.460You have to have come across it, especially if you're familiar with like Gaia, David Wilcock, you know, characters like that.
00:21:52.460And the short end of that is that there are these elevated extraterrestrials, you know, higher intellects, higher spiritual beings filled with wisdom, have our best interests at heart and are waiting to intervene in some way, shape or form in the comings and goings of whatever happens here on planet Earth.
00:22:11.680but there are some things that stand in the way and that kind of gets a little convoluted too
00:22:16.700it goes well there's bad guys bad actors on the world stage there's also you know human beings
00:22:22.120have to elevate their vibrational frequency in order to take their place among the galactic it
00:22:28.260gets real real wonky what strikes me though is how much staying power that narrative has it's
00:22:36.720been around for a long time, doesn't appear to be going anywhere, only gets more people galvanized
00:22:41.980to the idea. Um, what do you make of that particular narrative? Yeah. So the narrative
00:22:49.560you're talking about, which is still extremely popular and really, I think the ringleader of it
00:22:56.200in the sort of Gaia TV, um, realm was David Wilcock for many, many years. It's called the
00:23:04.960ascension uh narrative right ascension has been offered so many times in the past i mean even
00:23:15.280heaven's gate cult uh d and doe offered ascension basically they they were saying you know this
00:23:25.080this comet's coming and if you follow me and you follow my instructions and you remove your sexual1.00
00:23:31.160desires and cut your nuts off. Uh, you know, all these grotesque things to, you know, prove yourself1.00
00:23:39.960to be ready. We'll join these space beings and leave this, uh, you know, a hellish earth realm
00:23:47.580and ascend. Uh, they all ate like a poisonous chocolate bar and died. And, uh, the Jonestown
00:23:56.400massacre happened as well. Very similarly, that was more of a Christian grift because it wasn't0.98
00:24:04.340an alien cult, so to speak. Corey Good, David Wilcock, even Chris Bledsoe, look,
00:24:13.140this guy's guilty of doing this stuff now too. They all create prophecies and the major thing
00:24:23.300that buys people into these cults or into these followings is a promise of being saved love and
00:24:33.740uh the fear is what's introduced at the beginning so fear being a cataclysmic event right um with
00:24:42.720cory and david they talked about a solar flash that was imminent and that solar flash was going
00:24:49.840to be like a micro supernova. I guess the sun burps. And when it burps, it will wipe out all
00:24:58.940life on earth. But hey, if you pay $333 and come to my conference this weekend, you'll learn the
00:25:10.140ascension techniques to avoid being destroyed by the solar flare that's going to kill every other
00:25:17.200human being on this planet. Yep. We will rise up and ascend together. Right. And the fear and love
00:25:23.860that dynamic you'll see happen in the Mooney's cult. You'll see it happen in so many different
00:25:31.440cults, you know, saving your brother is a admirable trait. That's all we, you know, um,
00:25:39.780if you're a good brother, I don't think my brother wants to save me, but for you guys,
00:25:44.640if you have brothers or you care about them, you typically want to save them. You want to
00:25:50.440advocate for the best life they can have. And if you're a sister, you want to advocate for
00:25:57.440your sister's best life or vice versa. And that's why this stuff does so well. A lot of people
00:26:05.820don't have the family that they want. They don't have that support that they have. They desire at
00:26:14.580home and when they hear this sort of cataclysm that's coming they get that fear response yeah1.00
00:26:23.360shit i don't want to die from this fucking micro nova burp from the sun you know how am i going to0.99
00:26:30.100avoid that then comes the answer well if you come to my ascension courses three three three dollars1.00
00:26:37.840uh one one one if you only want to come for one day don't worry it's a little cheaper to learn
00:26:43.080ascension. Um, I will start to save you because I love you. And that's where these people are
00:26:51.500running to most of these people that follow, you know, folks like David and look, I think he
00:26:58.660believed the things he was saying. I think, um, I think a lot of these people believe what they're
00:27:05.600saying. I think that some of these people are good people. I think Chris Bledsoe is a nice guy.
00:27:11.100I have met him in person at contact multiple times in the past.
00:27:16.160I think the first time I met him, he was not a headline speaker there.
00:27:35.760And he's telling people about his prophecies.
00:27:39.860but his prophecies have missed twice this year yes and yesterday he unveiled a 10th or was it
00:27:47.480two days ago he unveiled a ten thousand dollar course on the day that his prophecy of the red
00:27:56.360star of regulus aligning with the pyramid was supposed to happen that never happened but that
00:28:01.380was so right i think they moved the date back after it didn't happen in april or something
00:28:05.560like that i was really looking forward to that yeah the all of the new information the new
00:28:09.160paradigm that we're going to step into i was really pumped for that um and then yeah it really
00:28:14.020kind of let us down well that that brings me to my next question then darcy which is um do you
00:28:19.380think that these people are making up the same grift because it's effective or are any of these
00:28:23.680people let's say in particular um well let me add on to that like what's homeboy's name we were just
00:28:28.540talking about uh chris bledsoe chris bledsoe are they having profound experiences with something
00:28:34.860that's deceiving them let me also add add on to that because it's not it's a grift in a way like
00:28:39.360these guys are selling courses and they're selling books and ten thousand dollars not that we should
00:28:42.820sell some courses yeah but maybe we'll get on that but um elon musk is saying the same thing and
00:28:48.060he's not necessarily selling us stuff he's more he's selling us the boring company but he is
00:28:53.400crushing i mean he's just taking it from the government but yeah like remember he was making
00:28:57.140the rounds on uh the neff brothers or whatever they're called yeah he was on that podcast and
00:29:01.920He was saying a polar shift, I think, was his magnetic polar shift that if we even if we went to the moon, we wouldn't be far enough to escape the ramifications of it or something like that.
00:29:12.000And that is a great point, because compounded on top of everything you're saying here is this calamity, this cataclysm that's coming very consistent.
00:29:21.040And in fact, even people without something to sell you.
00:29:45.740I mean, when I was in university, I took Geology 101.
00:29:50.940And in that course, you learn about the volcanic process on the planet, subduction zones where the tectonic plates...
00:30:00.220eventually just go into the core and melt down and disappear. Um, and the constant earthquakes,
00:30:08.720the constant, uh, hurricanes and all that jazz, right? Yeah. Um, your body is always giving you
00:30:16.740signals. Whoop helps you understand them. Whoop is the wearable health and fitness coach that
00:30:21.740provides personalized insights into your sleep recovery, strain, and overall health to help you
00:30:27.400make better decisions every day whether you're training working traveling or just trying to feel
00:30:32.520your best whoop shows you what helps your performance and what might be holding you back
00:30:37.100listen to your body build better habits see where whoop can take you try whoop free for 30 days at
00:30:43.800whoop.com you you quite literally learn when you do these kind of sciences that we live in a chaos
00:30:52.480system. We don't live on a very stable planet, right? We are constantly having to pick up and
00:30:59.580rebuild. Um, and are there going to be cataclysms in the future? Possibly, you know, but I don't
00:31:10.420think any cataclysm that happens in the future, you can predict anybody who says that they can
00:31:18.860usually misses it right david wilcock predicted y2k that didn't happen he predicted uh 2012
00:31:28.360as being actually in a mass ascension process where we would like instantaneously fly and
00:31:36.420uh you know have telepathic uh abilities and so on never happened but you know then on the other
00:31:45.640side of that, other people were saying the Mayan calendar ends in 2012 and we'd all, that's when
00:31:51.060the cataclysm would happen and the earth would end. The point is that even if we do live in a
00:31:58.120chaos system, right, we have to live in the present. We have to live our lives and treat each
00:32:05.560other the way we want to be treated so we can prosper and, you know, live peacefully. I think
00:32:14.800if there was a guy named Jesus Christ, he was trying to say, guys, heaven and hell exist
00:32:20.920because it's right here on this planet. And you can live in two states of mind. You can either
00:32:26.940live selfishly, hurt other people, create lies, spread them, make this delusion so powerful that
00:32:35.860you hurt the longevity of these people's minds down the road, so on and so forth, and live by
00:32:43.940corruption. And that is literally creating hell on earth. Or you can be peaceful. You can be
00:32:51.340loving. You can protect others. You can try to champion truth only that is proven, that is
00:33:00.000factual. And you can create this almost like heaven-like state on earth, right? That could
00:33:07.360be a way of interpreting it. And, um, you know, instead everybody's saying that they're living
00:33:14.620that way on this planet and completely acting a different way, you know? So I think, um,
00:33:24.580if there is a cataclysm and people get a glimpse of that, they have a psychic ability or they do
00:33:31.480have a, uh, encounter with a higher being, right? Something that's outside of our physical reality
00:33:42.020or, you know, um, outside of our scientifically known reality, right? That's another way of
00:33:50.480looking at it. Uh, if you, if you get down to it and you want to be a materialist, which I very
00:33:56.720much am. You have to realize that science is evolving every day. We're understanding the
00:34:05.260universe more and more as we go. Artificial intelligence is going to speed up material
00:34:10.940sciences like never before. We're going to see breakthroughs that you hear about it in math all
00:34:16.940the time now. These mathematical equations that mathematicians were trying to solve for 20 years
00:34:23.580are being fed into AI by the same mathematicians or scientific groups, and they're solving them
00:34:31.660like this week, tomorrow, today. And that's incredible. We're at this precipice where
00:34:40.020things are going to be understood like never before. And I think people like Elon Musk
00:34:47.720understand that too. And they realize that cataclysms probably happen. We have to get off
00:34:58.560planet. We have to continue to thrive and evolve as a species. Maybe we're not going to be human
00:35:09.2801.0 forever. We might be genetically altered to live better on Mars. We might be, you know,
00:35:16.700uh, stronger, taller, we might become fucking Nephilim in the future. You know what I mean?0.98
00:35:22.920Due to scientific breakthroughs and changes that, uh, the tech bros and longevity bros
00:35:30.960of, uh, the United States are currently going after right now with the aid of AI and all kinds
00:35:38.980of science breakthroughs. Um, and then you have the conversation in the media being dominated by
00:35:48.260UFOs. And that could be setting us up to the idea that, Hey, we're not alone in the universe.
00:35:54.760There are other intelligence out there. They have been trying to guide us in certain ways.
00:36:01.080some people have been reached out to in the population throughout history and given that
00:36:09.320guidance. And when they're given that guidance, they either turn around and try and give us the
00:36:15.320information as best they can, or they turn into pseudo cult leaders and sell us $330 tickets
00:36:22.320for a weekend course. You know what I mean? Like there's possibilities.
00:36:27.320So throughout the experiences, if you track and it's the anecdotal evidence when it comes to this category, right?
00:36:35.580There's all sorts of evidence. You talked about the harder evidence being related to NASA and things like that.
00:36:39.820And some of these more verifiable experiences where there's tons of eyewitnesses.
00:36:43.680But if you collect data points from the anecdotal side, which is testimony, which is, you know, super shoddy.
00:36:51.520And I think people are often in an altered state of consciousness when these things happen, where it's like a pseudo sleep state. But you do still have thousands, even millions of anecdotal stories where you can collect data points that overlap from one to another.
00:37:06.280And one of those being the calamity data point, if you zero in on it and you get more specific, it is actually not uncommon for a date to be ascribed to these coming calamities.
00:37:19.700And it seems that the individual who has the experience maybe is then compelled to go forth and evangelize on behalf of the experience talking about this coming calamity.
00:37:29.300This has been something that's been going on for a long time.
00:37:31.520If you go back to the 70s, 80s, and 90s, every single one of those dates came and passed, which is interesting because this whole arena is filled with date setters, and I find that to be right in alignment with this anecdotal data point.
00:37:45.820those dates come and pass why on earth would something this is where my mind starts to go
00:37:51.440why on earth would something that is external to the human experience an intelligence of its own
00:37:56.680that seems to be higher in some regard be taking people imparting this fear on them ascribing a
00:38:03.360date to it and then watching that date come and pass and and nothing happens what a huge
00:38:09.160i mean indicator of exactly that like somebody who when i look at i'm like i don't think this
00:38:14.820guy's a liar i think this guy is misled i think i believe him when he says that he's he's had
00:38:20.100contact with the lady and she's told him this or that and she's presented herself as uh like the0.90
00:38:25.040holy spirit or all kinds of ishtar isis yeah i believe him yeah yeah that's a great question
00:38:32.360why then are they lying why are these entities lying and then if they are lying does that assume
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00:39:13.520Well, I think when I've looked at the abduction phenomenon,
00:39:18.080so I made a documentary series that's like streamable on YouTube movies.
00:39:27.280It's on, I think it's going to be on Tubi TV,
00:39:30.200but it's on Amazon Prime and a bunch of other networks like Roku.
00:39:34.180It's called Pascagoula 73, and it follows these two Mississippi fishermen, Calvin Parker and Charlie Hickson, that in October 11th of 1973, they said they were fishing on the Pascagoula River in Mississippi at around six o'clock at night, and they saw this light in the sky.
00:39:57.100And this light in the sky grew close, ended up behind them instantly.
00:40:17.800When they were taken on board this flight, they were separated.
00:40:22.480And one, Calvin Parker was genetically kind of harvested. Things were taken from him. Charlie Hickson said he was kind of like scanned by this orb eye-like thing that came out of the wall in his room. He was suspended in air.
00:40:39.480in air. Um, and you know, they both kind of continued that story. Calvin Parker talked
00:40:47.900later that he had kind of visions put into his head from a lady, um, from this kind of blonde
00:40:57.720looking half human looking thing and blonde blue eyed. He said, if he gave her a few beers,0.98
00:41:05.400he'd try to hit her up at the bar but um you know he's a horny guy well that's actually super
00:41:11.920consistent you always hear she's very beautiful and but like uncanny valley yeah uncanny valley
00:41:16.340is a good way to put it yeah right but not something wasn't quite right she didn't look
00:41:20.600fully human and i i kind of my the way i recognize this pattern over time where people say they see
00:41:29.920these things that look human but they're not fully human and they look futuristic they're wearing
00:41:35.320like a one piece suit that's skin tight and whatever. Um, and then they speak telepathically.
00:41:44.460They don't need to use their mouth. Um, that type of thing is quite often the reported in the UFO
00:41:51.180phenomenon or abductees experiencers to me that, um, says an ability that's beyond ours. So these
00:42:01.960or beings that are, let's say, evolved or are more advanced than us, again, that could be a future
00:42:15.620terrestrial. It could be us from the future. And in that case, Calvin Parker and Charlie Hickson
00:42:25.420quite literally said, the things that took us on board the ship were not human, they were robots.
00:42:31.960Like they said, they had no eyes. They seem like drones. They seemed mechanical in nature.
00:42:38.560They picked us up. They, they had like strength, like, uh, you know, uh, non-human, uh, entities
00:42:49.040and they had pincer like appendages. Like it was an interesting story. Um, but there's a lot of
00:42:58.820things around that case that seemed to prove something happened there. And that's why I
00:43:03.820reported on it. In the visions that Calvin Parker got, he said, there's going to be a massive world
00:43:11.320war. There's going to be famine. There's going to be disease and pestilence. There's going to be
00:43:17.760massive loss of life. All that stuff kind of seems like it's on the precipice, right? Like,
00:43:24.880it's all something that you don't even have to be abducted right now to feel like that's on our
00:43:31.320doorstep we're living in the west in quiet times right we're living very peaceful lives being able
00:43:40.080to podcast and stuff like this while in the middle east the world is being blown up terror chaos
00:43:46.920fire in the sky ukraine and russia the same um when is that going to arrive here guys it's not
00:43:57.100it's not going to stay away forever we're going to have that we're living in relatively
00:44:02.400unprecedented times in human history right i mean this is uh very calm very unprecedented
00:44:09.260very nearly utopian compared to the the rest of human existence so yeah i would agree with that
00:44:15.420Yeah. And so there could be a real world war in the future if things keep going the way they're going.
00:44:25.440So, you know, the prophecy that that sort of vision that Calvin was given and that other experiencers get.
00:44:37.760Chris Bledsoe talks about an apocalyptic thing happening in 2026.
00:44:43.200It didn't happen. 2027 will probably be the next date. And then people say, well, is 2027 going to be the year of contact, you know, where beings make themselves make their presence shown globally?
00:45:10.060right? They, they fly down and land on the white house lawn, that type of thing. Um, this is what's
00:45:19.320being talked about now in the UFO community. Uh, I've heard it from multiple people and, uh,
00:45:27.940that's another sort of prophecy that I'm, I'm very skeptical about, but if there are higher entities,
00:45:36.240higher beings that are watching what we're doing in our reality in our realm on earth
00:45:43.620and they're worried about us and some of them are altruistic and they want to intervene before
00:45:51.400we completely destroy ourselves i hope that there is a mass contact event right um what if there's
00:45:59.880beings that want to take advantage when we're weakened and when we're looking for help elsewhere
00:46:08.220because the chaos becomes too real on our planet in the next year or a few years or 10 years right
00:46:17.080um is that intervention a time when they just exploit us to the max you know because they
00:46:24.340become our gods or something. I don't know. Um, these are all speculations and, uh, there right
00:46:33.700now, you know, if you listen to Mick West or you listen to Neil deGrasse Tyson, there is no such
00:46:39.820thing as higher entities or, uh, non-human intelligence interacting with our planet.
00:46:46.340But we do have this disclosure happening at the same time from the current White House administration.
00:46:56.740And one can wonder, are they trying to prepare us for something like that that might happen in the future?
00:47:04.640Or are they trying to distract us from the Epstein files?
00:47:09.040or, uh, you know, are they trying to seize control of us because they're playing that0.54
00:47:15.980fear card that I talked about earlier? Um, and yes. And they want, and, and they want to offer
00:47:24.540us protection, their love, you know, whatever to, to keep us from that, um, that evil that may be
00:47:32.400coming. All the above. Yeah. I'm, I'm totally down with the psyopi narrative. I'm totally down
00:47:40.120with the idea that maybe there are non-human intelligences here, um, with, you know, possibly
00:47:49.640competing narratives or competing interests. Um, and, um, you know, it's, it's all up for discussion,
00:47:59.740but it can't be proven a hundred percent right right now right like you probably saw david
00:48:06.200grush's interview on joe rogan he's talking about reptiles he's talking about reptilians0.98
00:48:11.700being the bad guys at war with the grays and nordics and what are the fucking nordics they're0.95
00:48:19.880humans they're humans like every time you hear about a nordic uh abduction or um experience0.97
00:48:29.540answer case they're there and then grush is calling them greek gods they're advanced humans
00:48:39.120they're humans that have either broken away from our civilization and maybe survived the last
00:48:46.080cataclysm and come back and helped us rebuild on the planet or they are like us from the future0.99
00:48:54.600that can time travel in fucking ufos that's the best way i do darcy do you um in your collection0.92
00:49:03.300of like witness testimony when these entities uh nordic or otherwise when they communicate0.99
00:49:08.360with the person that they're abducting or the person that they're just having an encounter with
00:49:12.400is it ever uh physically verbal or is it always telepathic your body is always giving you signals
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00:49:25.780personalized insights into your sleep recovery strain and overall health to help you make better
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00:49:48.600Most of the time it's like telepathic. Yeah. Even if you go back to the Travis Walton story,
00:49:59.660for example, there was no telepathy. He didn't really add on to that story. He only had that
00:50:06.100one abduction experience, but he recalls like these kind of gray looking non-humans that had0.75
00:50:13.540big bald heads that were around him when he woke up. And then later on a hot blonde and
00:50:18.360uh you know hot blonde chick with big jugs and a one-piece blue suit and her like male1.00
00:50:25.740counterpart that also looked like angelic uh you know supermodel style uh hollywood
00:50:32.740dude or something right and so you keep getting these experiencers that that repeat0.98
00:50:39.980that kind of combination, like the gray kind of, uh, AI type drone being that doesn't have a penis
00:50:48.920or reproductive organ and they're operating in a craft like, uh, drones. And then you have
00:50:57.000like these advanced human beings that, uh, other people have called Nordics.
00:51:03.820uh some people call them the the pleiadians you know that's uh the billy meyer guy called them
00:51:12.160uh the pleiaran i don't believe everything billy meyer said but it's just kind of like
00:51:18.920part of this anthology of humans that are advanced you know what i mean you could be
00:51:24.860the arcturians which is another fascinating aspect to all of this you know these the i find the
00:51:32.660abductee testimony to be the most fascinating not because um you know obviously it's it's a
00:51:41.080flaky sort of a thing but if you engage in the hypothetical are these people actually being
00:51:49.320told something by something that's external to themselves you know then you could observe those
00:51:54.000patterns and what i've noticed is just like how much of it has changed historically the arcturians
00:51:59.340to the Pleiadians, to the Nords, the dates that they set that never come to pass. It's going to
00:52:05.620be mutually assured nuclear destruction, or it's going to be human beings polluting the planet0.97
00:52:11.860until we destroy the atmosphere and we can no longer inhabit it, or it's going to be
00:52:15.720the ocean levels rising to such a degree that we experience tidal waves and all sorts of
00:52:20.540calamities, or it's going to be a polar shift of the magnetic variety that destabilizes the planet,
00:52:26.040or it's even going to be the elliptical orbit of Nibiru
00:52:55.400And it's like, this is something that me and David on the show, I don't know, a couple of years ago, were like really obsessed with this idea of telepathy and led us down the rabbit hole of, you know, Andreeja Puharic and his studies and the more recent telepathy tapes that were going into this.
00:53:11.520And I don't know, you said that it might indicate that they're a higher being or a more advanced
00:53:19.560being than us. Is there any possibility in your mind for the telepathy that they're showing or
00:53:27.600that they're using to mean that perhaps that they are less developed, that this is a bit of a crutch
00:53:34.460rather than an advancement? Like they're not physically speaking to us. They're not bending
00:55:00.780So, um, it just, it's a, it's a fact I'm using muscles in my face. I'm breathing to push and
00:55:11.720expel, uh, these words with a certain octave range out of my mouth. You know, um, all that stuff
00:55:20.420takes a higher amount of energy. And what if you skipped all that and you literally just beamed
00:55:28.280your thought, your words right into somebody's brain from one brain to another. And, you know,
00:55:36.280there's experiments with technology with like, um, voice to skull, uh, communication.
00:55:44.080That's Andrew Schuharich's original invention with the dental tooth implant.
00:55:47.860exactly right so how do we know that that has not been advanced by a breakaway civilization
00:55:58.300to a level that they just are able to beam their thoughts directly into our minds
00:56:05.280and they they communicate like that with each other they literally are able to
00:56:11.840um, build the rest of their, uh, society. And, and that's the other thing. Like you talk about
00:56:19.620abductees and, um, you know, experiencers finding out how these entities where you talk,
00:56:27.960talk about Bob Lazar, for example. Um, he said that these things kind of wore like a cerebro
00:56:36.080type helmet and X-Men shout out. And they end up using their mind and thinking of where they
00:56:48.020want to go with the craft and the craft appears there. That's all examples of human consciousness
00:56:58.900intention uh being very powerful and what you were talking about there lobster um these
00:57:06.900experiments that have happened throughout history where you can shout and yell ugly things at water
00:57:12.980and it will become tainted and rotten or you can speak like uh beautiful and uh give human intention
00:57:21.440love towards a cup of water and it'll stay fresh for an extra day or two you know it's actually
00:57:28.120specifically that when they freeze it the crystalline structures are chaotic and the
00:57:31.680ones that receive the negative uh you know dialogue the ones that receive positive affirmation have a
00:57:37.140more structured organized crystalline structure which is you know it's interesting yeah right
00:57:43.380which is another experiment completely from what i'm talking about but um you know you could do
00:57:49.820that to plants you can service your plant and and you can give a plant love and it can survive and0.99
00:57:56.960thrive or you can, you know, completely abandon it and treat it like shit and it'll die within1.00
00:58:03.060days. So, you know, it's, it's human intention that, um, changes our reality. And to me,1.00
00:58:12.000when you talk about these higher entities that are able to communicate mind to mind, maybe,
00:58:17.260uh, transport themselves around the galaxy or our solar system or our planet with instantaneous
00:58:26.260thought, with their craft, that type of thing. You're talking about advancements in that world
00:58:35.860of human consciousness or consciousness in general and intention. And I think there's
00:58:45.180factions of the government that have done that. I studied that in sort of a psychic documentary I
00:58:51.600made called the psychic phenomenon and you know i got to sit down with um thomas jane the actor
00:58:59.440from punisher and the experience and stuff like that uh talked to uh chris ramsey from area 52
00:59:07.160investigations he did a whole uh three doc three episode documentary on the psychic phenomenon
00:59:15.320with remote viewing controlled remote viewing spoke to tracy dolan spoke to um you know paul
00:59:23.720smith who came from uh the dia's uh stargate program and russ targ who headed that up with
00:59:33.900the stanford research institute uh jeffrey tarrant who's a guy that speaks to mediums and
00:59:42.860psychics and he puts one of those, uh, brain, uh, mats onto their head. I can't remember what
00:59:50.360it's called an E E E G G or EEG or something like that. Um, and he can see that the occipital load
00:59:58.240lobe lights up with tons of activity when these people are doing these very accurate psychic
01:00:06.300readings of strangers and such talking about their lives and what could come for them and so on.
01:00:12.060I think there's a reality to this phenomenon and it all has to do with the brain. I think certain humans have possibly enhanced versions of their, their brain has enhanced regions that allow them to become more naturally psychic.
01:00:37.700and they then you know learn how to hone that skill and um a lot of them end up going and
01:00:49.380working for the government apparently a lot of them go work for like the cia or the defense
01:00:54.440intelligence agency and such because why wouldn't you want that strategic advantage when you are
01:01:00.600trying to look at what your enemy is doing on the other side of the planet and you only have a
01:01:05.460satellite view and you need something more like a psychic view into that building, which Russell
01:01:11.100Targ talks about, you know, that the evidence from his project that their study that they
01:01:20.540actually carried out all these psychic tests for the defense intelligence agency, the CIA
01:01:28.720over two decades um and it works so i think it it all kind of connects up somewhat right it all
01:01:38.320comes back to the idea that you know non-human intelligence might have this ability we might
01:01:48.380have this ability um some of us more advanced they obviously much more advanced their technology is
01:01:57.360more advanced. And we're probably catching up right now with the advent of AI. And that's why
01:02:05.680maybe the governments of the world are going to be, you know, kind of talking about this more if
01:02:13.740AI starts to push us in a direction where we're becoming more aware of this stuff going on.
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01:02:53.180One of the things that I wanted to discuss with you, because it actually has come up on the world stage recently, I'm trying to remember who said it.
01:02:58.640I don't think it was J.D. Vance or somebody else of a high caliber government ranking official talking about Matt Gaetz.
01:03:06.500Might have been Matt Gaetz. And this was specifically about the hybridization program that's taking place underground.
01:03:11.300And within the alien abduction phenomenon, you do have a lot of themes that regard or that speak to rather some sort of a hybridization program.
01:03:21.980More commonly, it's it's referred to as the black eyed children phenomenon where individuals will claim to be abducted, impregnated in one fashion or another, carry the baby to term.
01:03:32.840And in some cases, we talked to Karen Wilkinson, who actually was one of these people and was confirmed by her her doctor that she was carrying a baby.
01:03:42.980And I forget what term she carried to. But suddenly she came to realize one day she didn't feel the baby moving, went back to the doctor.
01:03:52.360And the doctor said, not only is there no baby in here, but there's no signs of you ever having been pregnant.
01:03:57.080And so it was just this kind of anomalous case. Years down the line, she would have been abducted again. And in her recollection of the experience, introduced to children that she felt were her own children, but there was some uncanny valley thing about them. And in fact, she even has some recollection of her abductors trying to get her to interact with these children.
01:04:18.060and something's wrong they're not these children ain't ain't children anymore and there's something
01:04:23.820wrong can you try to interact with them and it's a foggy recollection his teacher what do we
01:04:28.740um but you know so um that's one of many stories and there's always been in the conspiracy of it
01:04:37.400all this hybridization program what do you make of it all well yeah you know matt gates i was
01:04:44.200actually in the x space that he elaborated on that story um after he came out the initial time
01:04:52.600and talked about it i think it was like fox news or news max or whatever right and um everybody
01:04:59.380thought he was like brought into a skiff like a secure uh briefing area at like let's say an fbi
01:05:07.600building or an air force base or something and was briefed on this subreddit
01:05:12.340now he was like a constituent of mine walked into my office, meaning just a civilian walked
01:05:21.480into his office and said, there's a hybrid hybridization program and it's very real and
01:05:28.660convinced him. Right. Which also has me a little bit concerned, uh, as to how some of these
01:05:36.960congressmen and women are vetting their information. But I do believe overall they are
01:05:42.960getting some credible information. Yes, there are many abductees that have talked about this
01:05:47.700hybridization program. It was a big story for Bud Hopkins and Dr. I think it's David Jacobs.
01:05:57.320I'm getting names wrong these days, but yeah, they built like huge collections of experience or abductee events where people talk about like having sex with non-human entities, meeting their children, having sperm or eggs harvested from them.
01:06:20.560Um, you know, in the Pasca Gula doc, I meet a woman who said she was abducted the very same
01:06:28.420night that Calvin Parker and David, uh, or, and, uh, Charlie Hickson were abducted, you know?
01:06:34.020Um, and she had reproductive material taken from her and that she was told this was to create
01:06:44.500The interesting thing about that is that, you know, the only way you can create a hybrid with something or reproduce with something else is if it if it's if you're even the only way that works is if you're genetically compatible.
01:07:08.560okay um and that would denote that whatever these higher beings are to me they are genetically
01:07:18.560related to us which again would lend to the theory that they're either breakaway civilization
01:07:23.340they are a future version of us coming back on the timeline and they want to speed up our
01:07:32.600development by creating versions of them with us in our current state, which is like human 1.0,
01:07:44.000right? Um, they want to advance that and get us to stop, um, being 1.0 and be 2.0 or 3.0 or
01:07:54.160whatever. That's my working theory, but it is interesting that that is a common occurrence that
01:08:05.920you hear about in the UFO field, the abduction cases. And if they are 100% not from our genetic
01:08:21.480lineage, how the hell are you going to mate like a reptilian with a human, uh, biology? You know,
01:08:30.160I, I don't know, maybe advanced science and CRISPR type tech. I don't know, but, um,
01:08:38.340it would be above, I think all of our heads scientifically. And, um, to me, you would have
01:08:46.300to that would only really work if uh the beings themselves are somehow related to us i agree with
01:08:54.380that um but then yeah that does lead down a bigger rabbit trail of like okay if they are related to
01:08:59.760us how related um what is it like a a horse and a donkey create a mule but it's not viable so you
01:09:06.400have like crossbreeding instances but they also yeah a liger yeah yeah like uh and i think a mule
01:09:15.220is also uh sterile right like it can't reproduce yeah so non-violence it's interesting too because
01:09:24.420oftentimes the sort of growth hormone in the hybrid is like turned off so ligers get to like
01:09:30.240an incredible size in comparison to lions or tigers um yeah i've seen that even with um
01:09:36.820with joe exotic what was that uh show called tiger hell yeah he he had ligers and they were0.86
01:09:44.400fucking massive yeah like they're big big creatures you know it seems oftentimes so the
01:09:50.800viability right uh whether or not they're fertile uh gets thrown into flux uh most of the time the0.99
01:09:56.320case is not maybe all the time the case is not and then also there seems to be something with
01:10:00.400the growth regulation of it that that part of the genome gets almost switched off and they can just
01:10:05.900almost grow indefinitely so that's a there's an interesting side note uh there's a guy sean from
01:10:10.380kingdom in context as spoke to us and uh there's a a chemical within miracle grow called gibberellum
01:10:17.020and that's that retards the uh another chemical in here in the plant which allows indeterminate0.83
01:10:23.180growth and that's why you get uh you know exponential growth from whatever you spray0.77
01:10:26.940this thing on or not exponential but you know to a certain point and uh when when you're thinking
01:10:33.020about this uh human hybrid kind of experimentation there are words for that it's like biblical words
01:10:40.380so nephilim raphaim uh gibbereem gibbereem being one of them and it's just an interesting suffix
01:10:46.780that you have gibberelem being the chemical compound in today's miracle world that does that
01:10:51.580and gibbereem being the the word for uh basically a watered down yeah person who has transmuted
01:10:59.760themselves from not quite human not quite something else but like an advanced thing that's
01:11:05.060where ancient angel theorists get into this idea maybe you can turn off genomes and activate other
01:11:10.660ones to you know like regulate growth hormones um when we look at this phenomenon it seems to be
01:11:17.200really messy right so a lot of people will just go it's aliens or uh it's not real or it's demons
01:11:24.580or it's you name it but it seems to be this huge conglomeration of things and one of them that i
01:11:30.420find the most fascinating is the human element not the ones who are abducted but the ones who
01:11:35.320seem to be present during the abduction so many people who are abducted will routinely report
01:11:40.520medical personnel and military personnel to me a lot of what's happening seems to be
01:11:46.500indicative of maybe an intelligence operation right yeah a lot a big fight between people
01:11:52.860Like this is all in the spiritual realm and people go, no, this is completely physical.
01:11:57.040And I'm like, it's a mix of both of these things.
01:12:00.240Like I think that people are having experiences with really profound entities, but I think
01:12:04.420also there might be room in this conversation for, let's say there is something going on
01:12:09.760in these deep underground military bases where they're hybridizing or creating things, which
01:12:14.680like, why would I ever doubt that that's the case?1.00
01:12:17.080i'm sure china's created all kinds of man bear pig monstrosities um one way or another i thought0.99
01:12:23.660you were just gonna say chinese people or chinese people which is equally as horrifying but if you0.98
01:12:29.160could this is a christian show don't do that well you know okay it's called state of state um but if
01:12:35.080you could sufficiently create something that and i think there's precedent for this i think the
01:12:40.620russians were trying to do this there's some sort of uh document that indicates that russia wanted0.79
01:12:46.760to crash land something here and fill it with basically like um retarded children i forget i0.78
01:12:53.380was just learning about this yesterday or the day before and yeah like the annie jacobs oh what0.76
01:13:00.760and have the children well effectively if you saw them you would assume because of how
01:13:08.020deformed they were let's say these are lab grown you know put whatever imaginative uh vocabulary0.51
01:13:14.680you want on what they could generate in a lab when there's no human rights violations to to be
01:13:21.140worried about whether or not this thing is even human if it is successfully spliced with some
01:13:25.860sort of animal if you could show show a victim something that was sufficiently outlandish and
01:13:33.580that is the thing that they remember when they're in a drug altered state they also remember human
01:13:39.460beings they also remember military personnel they remember but the main thing that they remember
01:13:43.700are these creatures that made no sense to them now they're going to go out and try to share that
01:13:49.360story it's going to destroy credibility and that is the guise behind which an intelligence operation
01:13:55.500could successfully operate could successfully experiment on the human populace without any
01:14:01.900kind of repercussions if they did have technology that was sufficient enough that it didn't look
01:14:07.340human to us and so they could leverage this technology to take an individual they could
01:14:13.020leverage uh the drugs that they developed in these labs because lsd was developed in a lab right
01:14:17.960um and they could put you in an altered state and they could show you something that would
01:14:22.040effectively act as a screen memory and they understand enough about psychology could a
01:14:26.420percentage of this does it seem like any percentage of this is actually intelligence operation
01:14:30.940yeah so you're talking about like my labs like military abduction sure i mean we used to kidnap
01:14:38.280johns from whorehouses and dose them with lsd right that was our own cia that was doing that
01:14:43.420um i don't think that sort of stuff ended i think it probably just became more advanced
01:14:48.760it's possible i mean it's possible that you know uh it's like the theory of
01:14:56.940it's like the theory behind the sci-fi film hannah you know where this girl is lab grown in a base
01:15:04.980And then she escapes and lives on, you know, out there in Nevada with a bunch of normal human families and sees what it's like, but she's genetically advanced. She's faster, stronger, smarter, all this stuff, you know, um, what if it's like a, what if thing?
01:15:23.560Like, what if, uh, you create a, uh, reverse engineered craft that requires a higher intellect
01:15:35.100being to operate it, you know, not an average human, it requires something like the alien
01:15:42.440occupants that created the original craft.
01:15:45.320it's possible that you would have to genetically modify human beings in a lab and advance them to
01:15:57.020a certain perspective. And that is a breakaway civilization that you're creating in a closed
01:16:03.340environment right there. That then that breakaway civilization lives in this military sort of black0.72
01:16:12.200budget environment and flies these craft and when they take part in abductions and so on so forth0.76
01:16:20.540they say they're aliens so it doesn't out this um this clandestine black op that's going on
01:16:31.360around the planet you know on on general citizens that are not advanced it's possible you know i
01:16:38.280mean within it could exist in scientific reality do we have proof of it i mean we have some people
01:16:48.240like dr stephen greer that talks about my labs being the only abductions like he literally says
01:16:56.080every abduction is just a military abduction it's a psyop and um he says all
01:17:04.900extraterrestrials are actually benevolent angelic type beings that have come to our planet and are
01:17:14.560worried about our destruction. Right. So it's, it's interesting that there are, um, so many
01:17:26.360versions of how to interpret this phenomenon, right? And you guys are exploring, exploring
01:17:35.480quite often the sort of spiritual side. Um, I'm open to the sort of materialistic
01:17:42.520and like scientific side, um, more often than not. Um, and, and I think that there's
01:17:54.900possibilities of both. I'm just not very spiritual myself. You know, I'm, I'm like a,
01:18:03.580uh, believer in Murphy's law, uh, shit happens and do the right thing. You know what I mean?0.96
01:19:08.900these mummies and the individuals that peddled them out in Mexico,
01:19:13.980and what the claims surrounding the mummies were, what the evidence, I mean, I'm sure they put them
01:19:19.300through some sort of, uh, what would you call that? It's not an x-ray, but, uh, more or less
01:19:24.540to see what's inside of these mummies. So what, what was that process like? What did they claim
01:19:31.860to have found in their research and what do you think these things are? Yeah. So when I first came
01:19:38.980across them. I was actually interviewing Jaime Maus on down in Mexico city before they blew up
01:19:45.600before they became like a, uh, number one show on Gaia TV. And before Jesse Michaels created his
01:19:55.920documentary about them for his YouTube channel, how big is Gaia by the way, because it's not
01:20:01.720something that I'm like terribly familiar with. I don't watch, but I keep hearing the name of the
01:20:06.640network or the name of the, whatever this, this group is. And it's starting to feel to me like
01:20:11.440this is, you're dealing with like maybe a multimillion dollar corporation. Is that what
01:20:15.180they've reached now? Oh, they're huge. Um, you know, um, Jay Widener, the former head of
01:20:24.900production at Gaia TV, who I spoke with for the dark Alliance series, which talks about
01:20:30.140the secret space program people and all their claims and the, uh, controversy between
01:20:37.080Corey good and David Wilcock and, and that whole thing. Um, when I was speaking to Jay,
01:20:43.320he said that they have about 600,000 subscribers annually. And I, I don't know what their
01:20:51.180subscription costs per year, uh, per month, but I guess $33. Yeah. And you know, they also,
01:21:00.140do conferences. They do all kinds of stuff. So they have multiple revenue streams from their
01:21:07.640entertainment and their show network that they provide. But to your question, I think they are
01:21:19.520making a lot of money off of their platform and their content. And we know that they are
01:21:27.000um, accelerators or, um, trend of fires of multiple of the people that we've spoken
01:21:35.340about tonight. So Dr. Steven Greer, Chris Bledsoe, uh, the NASCA mummies,
01:21:45.120Corey good. And David Wilcock, like all these people got there, dude, isn't, uh, uh, uh,
01:21:53.180steven greer he was doing gay uh is that true i think that was true i think he was doing allegedly0.70
01:21:58.920gay stuff i don't know what what that's like the uh homosexual avengers you know like uh like a0.65
01:22:05.620really aggressive all right please no continue no yeah i mean some people call him dc muscle wolf0.94
01:22:12.040which you can find online oh my god yeah there's actually a pretty cool name there's apparently a
01:22:19.420a grinder profile that's linked to him. But, um, essentially like Gaia has an amazing ability of
01:22:28.640amplifying these people in their stories and the NASCA mummies. Um, I got to meet with the man who
01:22:36.400was bringing them to the world, the Jaime Maussan back in 2018. I interviewed him about them. Uh,
01:22:42.700this recent documentary is a lot of that old footage, but we turned it into a pure comedy
01:22:49.180because look, if you look at the history of this, it should be laughable, but it's a very, very
01:22:57.360ride or die subject right now. And if you look at the people that I'm battling on X every day
01:23:03.120and saying, no, these are a hoax. You see how angry and vitriol these people are. They are
01:23:11.000literally like um zealots for these being not just modified ancient human remains but like some kind
01:23:22.820of hybrid alien existence from the past when you say that they're not just modified human remains
01:23:30.260are you of the opinion that these are actually um something that was a genetic reality whether
01:23:39.980or not it's been altered is a different subject but but so far from what you've seen you think
01:23:44.360these are actually because if you told me they were just cake or they were just plaster they
01:23:48.920were just you know something that was not at all um ever alive i would have said oh okay yeah that
01:23:56.320actually checks out that i i'm not surprised but it seems like you think that these actually were
01:24:01.340at some point human and then they were altered yes so there's evidence that these were humans
01:24:09.340that were at one time alive in the Nazca region.
01:24:13.520And if you look at the elongated skull versions of them,1.00
01:24:18.020there's evidence that the Wakeros, the grave robbers,1.00
01:24:23.320that harvested them from this Nazca Plateau region
01:24:29.760where a lot of these bodies were buried in the ancient days of Peru.
01:24:35.780um well the nasca skull the sorry the nasca remains are sometimes a thousand years old
01:24:45.060sometimes hundreds of years old sometimes you know longer older than a thousand years
01:24:51.740that's fine because they we know that they were burying these people for a long time
01:24:56.420but the elongated skulls actually come from the paracas region which is the east of uh peru
01:25:03.860the paracus skulls are those ones that you see that brian forrester and many researchers have
01:25:10.340shown they have unique attributes that don't always necessarily seem to look like they were
01:25:17.080created from binding which is a technique to morph the skull create uh formation and make it more
01:25:24.860look like a cone yeah they're actually doing that to me tomorrow love it dude they should
01:25:30.200have started a little earlier it's gonna hurt i think it's got room for the forehead room
01:25:34.480you're supposed to get on it when when they're babies because that's when you know everything's
01:25:38.980soft but um essentially like i think there's evidence that this is a marketing industry due
01:25:49.440to the shows that have come out um the walkeros themselves if you look at there was a documentary
01:25:55.440that um this guy will brown william brown that does a show called incredible history he brought
01:26:03.320out and it showed that the walkeros were quite evidently uh offering to sell information about
01:26:13.420how these were built or were selling the actual creations in multiple different forms you know
01:26:21.100some of these little J type beings had like tails, like a dog attached to them to make them look even0.90
01:26:28.780more, um, you know, uh, hybridized and, and strange looking, right. Any idea what they were1.00
01:26:37.400for? Like how much? I think the range that, so it got a British researcher traveled down there
01:26:43.880named Steve Mara and Steve Mara, uh, uncovered in his documentary that they were going for
01:26:50.460anywhere between 30 to $50,000, just the small bodies, right? Just the small bodies, the ones
01:26:57.820that like look like a bone doll. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, because they're like amalgamations. We,
01:27:03.700there are some that have been taken apart for sure and show that the head is a like repurposed
01:27:11.120shaved llama skull. It's the brain casing, just the brain casing of the llama skull that they
01:27:18.440turned around and made it look like an alien's face and, you know, made eyes and a nose and0.84
01:27:23.920mouth on. Um, and they reskin these things with like things like chicken skin, which is plentiful
01:27:31.120around the world. And if you look at all of them, they're all covered with, uh, I think it's
01:27:37.280diametaceous, uh, earth, which is this white powder. Right. And the hoax propagators say,
01:27:46.540oh, that's just to preserve the bodies. But nowhere in the world, especially there in the
01:27:51.640NASCAR region where it's easy to just bury a body and it becomes mummified because of the environment,
01:28:01.700that whole explanation is bunk. They're covered in that white material to hide sutures, to hide
01:28:10.180seams, to hide all the modifications that have been made to these bodies. For the hands and the
01:28:15.900feet, for example, they're literally cleaving off the thumb and the pinky, um, to create a
01:28:24.920three fingered center hand. And then they cut down through the palm because your palm, actually
01:28:33.760your fingers extend through there. If you look at an x-ray of a human hand, um, you know,
01:28:39.880your fingers go down to like almost your wrist joint. And, um, yeah, that's why it articulates
01:28:46.240the way that it does. Yeah. So they're cutting down to almost the wrist joint, getting off the,
01:28:52.240the thumb and the, uh, pinky finger. And they're in some cases also adding finger bones from other
01:29:01.820cadavers to the, uh, existing fingers that are in the middle. Cause again, these are
01:29:09.100ancient Peruvian, uh, remains. I don't know if you've been to Peru. I have, but Peruvians are
01:29:16.420very short people. They are, you know, anywhere between on average, like five, four males are0.99
01:29:25.000like five, four to five, five. Um, so they're not tall and their hands are not huge. And, uh,
01:29:33.600quite often, you know, these are the mountainous people, right? And the NASCA is in the mountains
01:29:39.240I'm talking about. Um, so you, you typically have, um, you know, smaller digits to the hands.
01:29:49.120So they're modifying the digits even more to make them freakishly long. Um, for the ones like Maria
01:29:56.800that have an elongated skull, people are saying that skull has been brought over from the Paracas
01:30:02.740skull region or practice region and put on top of this body that was otherwise just an uh nasca
01:30:10.900um body so you're saying that's right here like with this image that we bought up this is actually
01:30:17.020a hand a human hand that's had its thumb and pinky cleaved off and then they've dug out
01:30:23.740lines between each knuckle to elongate the fingers it almost doesn't even make sense to have a hand
01:30:31.200like that really like just you think about animals uh possums monkeys all sorts of things
01:30:36.960raccoons that have um opposable thumbs and you go well look at the the function of it it is
01:30:44.140very much uh a functioning uh appendage this is something that you can you can't do anything with
01:30:51.080three long fingers and virtually no palm you can't really grab anything you can't it just
01:30:57.780doesn't make any sense that it would look i mean i mean i guess the argument would be like just like
01:31:02.380speech uh why would you use a thumb if you've advanced so far that you just need to point at
01:31:08.900stuff i guess that's right you do telepathy fingers yeah yes and well those things should
01:31:12.660just what they shouldn't even have hands then they should have just cut their hands right off right
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01:31:56.240hybrids from the past. And that is, you know, it's really popular. I mean, even the idea of1.00
01:32:04.540the Nephilim is a hybrid theory, right? So the people that are grifting on that theory
01:32:11.440are exploiting your interest in that already. You know what I mean? They're literally exploiting
01:32:17.220all these people that have an adjacent interest in a hybrid theory. And they're pushing this as
01:32:24.680evidence that there were ancient hybrids. Are a lot of them actually doing that? Or are they
01:32:30.280even thinking that many steps ahead? Because not that I'm trying to doubt the IQ of the people that
01:32:35.800are you know engaging in this process but um do you need to even go that far to incorporate the
01:32:41.940hybridization theories that are found in so many different mythologies couldn't you just want to0.86
01:32:46.500sell some aliens because shit is hot right now it's both yeah it's hybrids and aliens i mean0.51
01:32:52.940that's it it was intended for the alien market right for the ufo public um so that's why it's0.99
01:33:02.540a big conversation or was, but, you know, um, I'm hoping that people smarten up because they see
01:33:10.540content like the stuff I've put out and see, there's a history of this hoax before they
01:33:17.320rolled out the mummies. I mean, even the J types, which are the small bone doll types1.00
01:33:22.220that Jaime rolled out at the, uh, um, UFO Congress, uh, that they put on in Mexico city.0.99
01:33:30.000those are very obviously fake right they look kind of brutal that they did that that they
01:33:37.300would even consider doing that but i guess there was a a lot of there was no shortage of people0.98
01:33:41.960that thought that shit was real but when i saw it we you know the joke here was that they were0.97
01:33:47.020just cake and it's interesting because they kind of modeled them after if i'm not mistaken like0.99
01:33:51.160close encounters of the third kind or whatever that popular spielberg film was that came out
01:33:55.160back in the day like which is now now what now spielberg that movie was real they modeled the
01:34:03.880you know what i mean like it creates a whole line of of what are you trying to actually say here
01:34:09.860but to me the thing just looked like bullshit um and i guess maybe that's why it's it's died down0.63
01:34:16.100since then i haven't heard anything really uh about the the nazca mummies in some time0.93
01:34:21.440Yeah, I'm pretty much the one bringing it up. So I remind people of this hoax. So when it does come back, because it's very cyclical, this whole community, right? Somebody else is going to stand up next and say, these are real.0.99
01:34:36.500And actually, um, there's pictures online of Greer and, uh, rep representative Eric
01:34:44.560Burleson who went down to, uh, I think it was Mexico city to see these bodies and the0.51