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00:25:26.020Yeah, it was, it was, it was a whole thing, but it was, it discouraged me from going back to the church. And even now I can't really go back to the church because it's, it, some of the, I mean, the ones around me seem kind of like, uh, like they don't really understand what's going on. And I, I've been looking, we, we had a Orthodox Christian on. I've been looking at that type of church. Maybe that one might make more sense for, you know, where I need to go.
00:25:50.540but uh well let me say this uh i a couple things one um i went through a phase where i i didn't
00:26:02.160go to church during the show um i was disenfranchised and i was mad uh i was mad that
00:26:08.360uh the church that i was going to that is uh the the long story but i was just like you guys
00:26:16.020literally are rejecting the supernatural aspects of God for comfortability and for what I perceived
00:26:24.020as you don't want to scare the money away. And living in the Northeast, you guys are in Florida
00:26:30.800now, but I can tell by your accent, you're from the city, probably New York. Yeah. But like up in
00:26:38.900that area uh it's the culture does not leave room for supernatural uh it just doesn't and even these
00:26:46.720pentecostal churches which i was going to um this the church that i went was going to was started by
00:26:53.460the professor that went to my college that was teaching at my college which was a
00:26:57.480assembly of god pentecostal bible college um but um i was so disenfranchised by so many different
00:27:04.360things i was like i'm done i can grow spiritually on my own and i don't need y'all and i was doing
00:27:13.220great until i realized that i needed that i needed that that christian fellowship in my life
00:27:19.340and i started seeing because anybody who's honest with himself will see it uh i saw a very it was
00:27:29.800gradual, but it was a decline in my, my health spiritually, because I, the only people I was
00:27:35.460associating with were people who were not claiming Christ and, uh, it took a burden on me. Uh, so I
00:27:41.400say that just to say, uh, as the guest on your show, I encourage you to find a church. Don't give
00:27:45.740up. Um, but, uh, I also think it's really interesting what you guys are saying because
00:27:51.740so I, over the years, people hear how the show goes and trust me, if you think it, I've,
00:27:59.460I've read it in an email to me. People will say, I wish you would have said this. I wish you would
00:28:05.460have told this person that. Why didn't you, why did you let them say all that stuff? I let people,
00:28:15.560I lead people to the water. I don't force them to drink. And when you guys are saying how you
00:28:22.320guys came to this understanding from your different backgrounds and stuff, it's literally
00:28:27.120music to my ears because that's the goal. That's the goal for me. I'm not interested in debating
00:28:35.880people. I'm not interested in trying to publicly humiliate people and prove to them that I'm right
00:28:41.040and they're wrong. I believe that just through open discord and just the conversation, you let
00:28:48.760the cards fall where they may and the truth will show itself. And I think that when people look
00:28:54.600into these different topics whether it's coming from political angle or a spiritual angle or
00:28:58.520paranormal angle or whatever uh conspiracy angle uh you do get to a point where the to marry
00:29:07.360everything together you're just like what what's that glue piece and for me i've found that it is
00:29:13.600the spiritual aspect of it the bible the god aspect when you start looking into it you're like
00:29:18.880oh well that makes sense why this is over here then and that's over there and all of a sudden
00:29:23.180things start coming together. And it's funny because I have people in my real life, not my
00:29:28.840online life, but my real life, who will say things like, I wish so-and-so would just come to Christ
00:29:35.980because everything they're saying is right, but they just don't see why they believe what they
00:29:40.800believe because they don't give God and the Bible any kind of credence. And that kind of attitude
00:29:48.920is what I get reciprocated to me in emails a lot of times.
00:31:04.240And I'm not going to have people coming on my show.
00:31:07.860and their only interaction with me was a guy who's overzealous trying to get his point across
00:31:17.660that Jesus is, is the only way, which is what I believe. And what's that, what's that going to
00:31:25.640accomplish? Here's the thing, Tony, you've done a wonderful job. Like I've watched a lot of
00:31:30.300Christian media. Like my mom is, you know, big in the church. She lives on my property over here
00:31:34.520and always has some kind of christian movie or something on and the overall theme of christian
00:31:40.720movies and most music is that it's corny and why is that because it's going to sound crazy but like
00:31:47.660they're putting jesus right in your face right so instead of it being about the art it's about
00:31:52.480jesus and that's great it should be but it doesn't move people it has to be like this message like
00:31:58.160your show is about jesus christ i don't care what you want to say in the end of the day when when
00:32:03.260you compile all these episodes and you kind of say, what's Tony talking about? He's talking
00:32:07.600about Jesus Christ the whole time, but you're not saying it. It's implied. So the audience that
00:32:12.560you're reaching is bigger. And it's also this kind of like underlying, it's like, watch a couple of
00:32:16.880episodes, get comfortable here. And then once they're comfortable, they're like, they put it
00:32:20.600together themselves. Whereas if you were obvious with it, I honestly, I probably would have turned
00:32:25.080it off because then it seems like, like, all right, this is something, what is this? Like,
00:32:29.300there's an agenda here you know it's almost like it's like what's better to to dress in a jesus
00:32:36.200t-shirt or to have jesus in your heart right and it's like well that's the show the show isn't
00:32:40.540wearing a jesus shirt uh it's it's at the heart of the show i mean i i um i appreciate that guys
00:32:48.860I really do. Um, I, I just, I just don't want, I just don't want to let, let God down, man.
00:33:00.540Like I, I, it's one of my biggest fears with doing this show for the past seven years that
00:33:06.200I'm misstepping somewhere and I'm, and I'm going to, I'm, I'm, I'm out of place, you know? Um,
00:33:13.060And so I just, I've had conversations with people off air that were guests, you know,
00:33:20.680like people assume that, Hey, the recording's over. So it must've been done. No, no. Like,
00:33:26.280I mean, more so these days than not, because I am busy and I'm running around, but like up until
00:33:32.960like the last year and a half, two years, I mean, I was notorious. My wife was mad at me all the
00:33:37.240time because I have a three o'clock interview and we connected three. We don't start till four.
00:33:43.060And I'm getting off at eight o'clock at night because I was just talking.
00:33:46.480And she's like, you're like, it's hard being an extrovert, you know, but the podcast was only an hour.
00:33:53.600There was a lot of conversation, right?
00:33:57.660And I just believe that those conversations deserve to be had in private where I could really convey to the person.
00:34:05.000So they understand that they're not sitting there while I'm talking, thinking something else.
00:34:08.060Like this guy's doing a show right now.
00:34:09.820like, I want you to understand this is how I feel. Let's talk about it. You know, if it was there,
00:34:15.600I mean, sometimes the conversation is not there to be had and that's fine with me too. Um, but,
00:34:20.480uh, yeah, I, as far as the way I approach things and stuff, it's just, um, I am who I am.
00:34:26.560The conversation will be had when it's relevant, when it comes up, uh, over the years, it's come
00:34:32.160up more and more because when you have the host as an outward spoken Christian, I'm not, I'm not
00:34:37.020ashamed of that. And I will talk about it. There's other Christians in the world that have
00:34:41.580weird experiences that I've gone through and they feel comfortable talking to me. And so when they
00:34:46.140come on to talk to me about their weird experiences, they bring the God component in it. Guess what?
00:34:49.380We're going to talk about it. And so it becomes a snowball effect and it happens. And so, I mean,
00:34:54.880I was uncomfortable with this for many years, but as time's gone on and stuff, I definitely
00:35:00.680do look at my show as a type of ministry, which is kind of crazy because I went to Bible college,
00:35:05.680dropped out and never thought I'd do ministry ever. Um, but here I am. And, uh, that's how I
00:35:12.240view it. And I don't believe that the podcast is going to go anywhere unless God decides that
00:35:16.660it's my time and it's time to go away. And I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that.
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00:39:22.320the case for everything right it's like whenever the times but it reminds me of uh this guy that
00:39:27.620we were talking to and i don't know if he might talk to you i think i don't know if you guys have
00:39:31.000anything set up, but Colin is a friend. I've been talking with him for a year. I had just the top
00:39:37.600lobster show where I was doing it by myself at one point, like just doing interviews with people
00:39:41.880in real life about like they had weird experiences, like my aunt and stuff like that. And he was
00:39:47.480messaging me back then. He was like, listen, I have all this stuff going on and I want to talk
00:39:51.700about it, but I can't talk about it. And I never, I never pushed him. I was like, listen, whenever
00:39:55.740you're ready, whenever you're ready to talk about this, let's do it. And he came, uh, maybe a month
00:40:01.280ago and he was like, now, now's the time. And he came on the show and told us a story that, uh,
00:40:10.060it just, for me, I was like, well, I knew the story, but like hearing it from him kind of like
00:40:15.740knocked me sideways because there's so many parallels and pieces to your show and all of
00:40:20.440these little things that were not, not even taken, but like his piece just fit in very nicely and
00:40:26.980kind of made me think about like, uh, about the, the underground spiritual battle that's happening,
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00:41:13.280army and uh colin had a similar experience where he's talking to an entity and the entity is
00:41:20.920telling him to do good things like actually like get his life together he came from a place where
00:41:26.300he was you know divorced down and all of a sudden he hears a voice in this he's working in a job
00:41:33.240that he didn't want to be at the voice just tells him turn around leave never come back and he
00:41:38.020listens and he continues to listen and follow the directions of this entity of what it's telling him
00:41:44.640uh to the point where he's having like experiences where he's he's describing them as physical
00:41:51.140i mean david you you could probably recap some of these things better than i can
00:41:54.740well he initially he does um leave his job at the behest of this voice but over time
00:42:03.060he starts to use uh psilocybin mushrooms to get into contact and and when i say direct him
00:42:10.900it would say okay take these now go lay down and he'd do it yeah so he would go into the room put
00:42:17.560an eye mask on and his girlfriend is going what the hell are you doing and he's and she's not
00:42:22.960using mushrooms this is just something he's doing at the behest of you know these voices he said
00:42:27.880initially it would show itself like images and flashcards in his mind um but over extended
00:42:34.360mushroom use these things came through as actual voices and pretty reliably he would communicate
00:42:41.220with something that he would describe as like a man with blue skin um there was also an event
00:42:49.880where there was somewhat of a clinical setting and there was two bald men with beards uh that
00:42:56.120look like doctors who were well that that one's interesting because uh he would so the entity
00:43:02.360would tell would tell him uh all right take this take the mushrooms see me in the room right um
00:43:07.700this time he hadn't taken mushrooms for a while and the entity kind of just tapped him on the
00:43:12.320shoulder and said hey take the mushrooms i'm meeting you in the room he did it he said he
00:43:17.580just went on a mushroom trip nothing happened the next day he's sober lays down and this experience
00:43:24.940in the clinical setting was almost like he describes it like an abduction, an abduction
00:43:29.380scene that happened. And, you know, men, men in white coats are, they have them on the table or
00:43:34.080something. And they're telling him like, you consented to this. They're saying that they're
00:43:37.240upgrading him. And, uh, that's like grading him for a war. Yeah. For, yeah. For whatever he
00:43:44.240consented to, because the, the entity that he was talking to initially seemed to be preparing him
00:43:49.540for a war. Like, he's like, you have to get in physical shape. You have to, you know, change
00:43:53.120your diet. You've got to do this. He, the entity actually sent him to church, which is bizarre to
00:43:58.320me. Like, I don't know where to put that. I know when people speak with entities, it's generally
00:44:03.600a negative experience or at least will be a negative experience leading to one, right?
00:44:08.620They're, they're setting up your disaster. Why would you set this guy up to be in good physical
00:44:13.660shape? Why would, why would you send him to church? Why would you have his mind sharper,
00:44:19.560sharper than it was before. And it, and his mind has gotten sharper. Cause I, I mean,
00:44:22.940I have DMS with him throughout, throughout like a year where I could tell that the guy was kind
00:44:27.800of like teetering and now he seems more coherent. Like, like he actually understands what's going
00:44:32.960on. I don't know where to put this stuff. Yeah. Because typically I've actually heard
00:44:38.960someone on your show, Tony mentioned Dr. Jerry Marzinski, who I definitely think you should
00:44:45.040reach out to clinical psychologists in the field for 35 years dealing with schizophrenia uh directly
00:44:50.800so in the uh institutions and then in the prisons once they shut down the institutions
00:44:56.360and he came to the conclusion that these are these people these that are experiencing these
00:45:02.440different voices are being influenced by uh demonic entities and one of the things that he
00:45:08.520puts down to a pattern a set of patterns he said there's 23 patterns that these things always follow
00:45:12.980One of them is that the overall mental and physical health of the person always declines
00:45:17.700dramatically until the very end where they're barely a shell of themselves.
00:45:21.340This is the only situation where I've heard where these things are telling him to run
00:45:25.680miles, to go to church, to eat healthier, to lift weights, all these different things.
00:48:25.340But no, I think that people need to just be careful.
00:48:29.880with who they're talking to and you know it says the guy who prays to god you can't even see him i
00:48:36.240know um but i there's a lot of this new age movement stuff happening and going on right now
00:48:43.300and uh i was introduced to the new age through my show i didn't know what the new age was until i
00:48:49.280started talking to people who were talking about the new age and when i first remember i remember
00:48:53.700when i first started hearing about it and they're talking about jesus i was like oh this actually
00:48:56.740Jesus, fluffy bunnies. I love this. This is nice. And then I started learning more about it.
00:49:03.500And I started talking to people who came out of the new age and the process of coming out of new
00:49:07.720age, uh, can be a very violent one, a very scary one, traumatizing one. Um, and so with that in
00:49:16.500mind, when I hear entities talking to people, uh, and it's a double-sided coin, it's like some of
00:49:24.060it's pretty decent and some of it's kind of questionable. If anything's kind of questionable,
00:49:28.960it's probably not from God. And so there's real manipulation tactics. And just because it feels
00:49:35.580good to you doesn't mean it is good. And that's just a lie of the culture of the day. We live in
00:49:41.520a society where what feels good to you, what's true to you, it doesn't matter. It shouldn't
00:49:46.760matter to you what feels good to you. It's what is right, what is wrong. What is truth?
00:49:52.580not what is true to you what is actual truth and um i think that's why we have a lot of people
00:49:59.100running around confused these days is because we let we were raised in a culture that is just been
00:50:06.080you know just do what feels good to you no that's how that's how this all this stuff starts
00:50:11.220and it's a perfect we live in a perfect time to have this kind of stuff permeate throughout
00:50:15.460culture uh people are going to absolutely be communicating with these entities and um because
00:50:22.420they're already preconditioned to do what feels good it's such a layup it's such a layup just
00:50:27.860start like like these these entities have been around you since day one and you're not the first
00:50:33.660human they've interacted with and they've been around you since day one they know what makes you
00:50:38.220tick they know what makes you feel good and they know exactly how to get you to do what they want
00:50:42.300you to do they're going to get you doing things that make you feel good and and they may not always
00:50:47.500be anti-God. It may not always be against God's will, but they're going to get you just by that
00:50:54.900simple formula, which has been just teed up with our culture of just do what makes you feel good.
00:51:02.080So, yeah, I don't know. Tony, can I interject for a second? I want to shout out to Adriano Bear in
00:51:08.740the chat, or I'm sorry, Optimistic Bear. Adriano says, my mom is caught up in that Christ
00:51:14.020consciousness mother father god stuff and it reminds me immediately i don't know if any of
00:51:19.240you guys have seen it don't worry it's not a spoiler because you're gonna waste your time if
00:51:22.400you do watch it but there is a sort of a cult show on not occult a cult show on netflix um and the
00:51:31.380story goes something about this woman who believes that she is uh mother god and based off of this
00:51:39.560premise. She starts to do all these charismatic videos online, amass a following. She does a
00:51:45.880bunch of stuff with crystals. She's drinking colloidal silver. And next thing you know,0.60
00:51:50.060all of these new age folks from all over the country start to travel from afar and gather
00:51:56.560around her. And then they start to live stream their everyday happenings. And it's pretty
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00:52:31.840Because the New Age is so appealing, and I think what's appealing about it is the New Age is structured in such a way to sell you the same lie that the serpent sold Adam and Eve in the garden, or Eve in the garden, and that lie is you can be as God, you can ascend, you can unlock powers, you can be more than what you are through these New Age techniques.
00:52:51.180And so these people who are attracted to this idea, they come from afar, they gather around her. And it turns out that she needs an incredible amount of alcohol to deal with the inundation of spirits that she's getting.
00:53:09.240Now, to the viewer, you go, this is a crazy person.0.62
00:53:13.620But to a crazy person like myself, I go, no, no, no.0.71
00:53:16.860She's drinking spirits to contact spirits.
00:53:18.900She's literally, yeah, she's literally in communication with spirits.
00:53:39.240And her body is like decomposing in real time because she's dying of alcohol related disease, you know, liver failure and things like that. And these people, it's amazing the loop they get stuck in. They see her dying and they go, it's because her physical form cannot take the grand spirit that is within her.
00:54:00.700you know mother god spirit that's what they're saying is so immense that the expiring of the
00:54:08.200physical form is increased exponentially uh to anybody who is her avatar and so you're watching
00:54:14.440these people in the in the real time but i think that is at the core of the new age movement is
00:54:20.160taking people who and i don't know what to say about her but uh she might have been you know
00:54:25.640sometimes these spirits, they do attack people who might be seeking a relationship with God.
00:54:34.260You know, I believe that the enemy doesn't attack people who are like not paying attention
00:54:53.080And so, you know, she could have started off with the best of intentions, but ultimately she sold this false bill of goods that all people in the new age movement are being sold, which is this idea of spiritual ascension that you can be as God.
00:55:10.300You can be like gods, like demigods, like, you know, whatever the idea is that they're selling these people. You just need to go through these practices, these occulted practices, and unlock various aspects. And ultimately, that is something that I've seen because after that conversation with Colin, we did receive several other stories from other people.
00:55:31.080And there is always this common thread of, well, these entities want to unlock something in me, to upgrade me, to allow me to, you know, access powers that are subdued. And, you know, it's like, well, what's going on? Do you have powers that need to be unlocked? Or are you being augmented by deceptive spirits?
00:55:54.240yeah i i uh err on the side of caution and i stay away from that stuff
00:56:00.680you know uh that's just how it is um first of all i didn't realize we were alive till just now when
00:56:06.740you said the comments like wait comments and i clicked i was like oh there's and i as soon as i
00:56:10.320saw the comments i was like get away from it i don't want to read the comments it's gonna distract
00:56:14.100me it'll distract me so i i apologize people who may be commenting and expect me to read a comment
00:56:19.480I, I, I can't read it or else I, Tony, Tony, if we treat our audience completely different than
00:56:24.300you, I don't respect any of those people. Don't look at them. Don't answer them. They don't
00:56:27.980deserve it. Talk to us. Okay. I got you. I got you. Um, yeah, I mean, I get sidetracked enough.
00:56:34.320I don't need to have the scroll of commenting. What I wanted to say about, uh, both of your
00:56:39.460points there was that it, again, like I came up in this like weird political realm where it was
00:56:43.860called a post-modernism, right? Where they would argue politically to no ends, uh, that there is
00:56:51.360no right or wrong. And things are, you know, things are just gray areas, constant gray areas.
00:56:56.120And the more you look into that, the more you realize like, no, no, no, no, it's pretty black
00:56:59.120and white. And it, whether it be spiritually, uh, religiously in your personal life, I feel like I
00:57:06.580personally have been, I'm like, I'm just going to take a hard stance on something and, and stay0.84
00:57:11.040that that's what I'm doing because if you're wishy-washy, you're going to go nowhere. So it's
00:57:15.540like, it's, this is either right or wrong. And that's how, you know, the current day church
00:57:19.020ends up with, with the, you know, pastors in rainbow robes and God and, and, you know, Jewish0.87
00:57:24.840tunnels, who knows what's going on. At some point, somebody, somebody compromised. And then you get
00:57:30.460down this hill of like, well, you can't even look back now. Where, where did I start? That's,
00:57:35.560that's the world today i you know listen i mean nobody wants to be wrong right but if you believe
00:57:44.320you're right then that that i mean listen i've just gotten grumpier as i've gotten older and
00:57:51.980i've just got to the point where i i just don't care anymore i'm gonna say what i believe and
00:57:58.500what i think and if if i'm just gonna be that grumpy old man in the room you could say
00:58:05.360the most eloquent argument to me as to why I'm wrong and you're right. If it just doesn't line
00:58:09.860up with what I believe, I'm just going to be like, no, I don't believe you. And I don't agree with
00:58:13.560that. You're wrong. But I just, no, I don't care. I don't care. And I just got to that point now
00:58:18.720because I'm not the best person that's, I'm not good at debating. I just know, I have lived
00:58:27.800experiences that tell me um the the that define how i believe um and so i just kind of i don't
00:58:37.980know guys i i we live in we just live in a really weird world and it just kind of gets to the point
00:58:44.000where you have to have a backbone you just have to to stand up and for what's right and wrong and
00:58:48.760and just call a spade a spade and and not worry about who's gonna like it who doesn't like it
00:58:54.500You know, I, I just, um, I crossed this bridge about a year and a half, two years ago.
00:58:59.760I'd say I just got to the point where I consciously made a decision.
01:00:18.500I came up in podcasting in a different era.
01:00:21.320So when I came up in podcasting, when I started out and stuff, you had to be conscious of what you're saying because there's a very limited people who were actually even listening to podcasts to begin with.
01:00:35.040And you had to just kind of draw the lines as to where you wanted to cross and not cross, right?
01:00:40.400and I kind of dug myself in a hole in a sense
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01:46:08.880We have some weird things happen here.
01:46:11.280I think it's just because of what I do.
01:46:13.420But going to what you were saying, though, I think, and I'm not perfect at this,
01:46:20.140but i think if we i think where we we fall short is that we we we claim the authority
01:46:28.060but we don't do it continually and we're instructed to pray continually always be in prayer
01:46:33.680um and and i think i think if we just start making a part of our routine and and doing it
01:46:40.760with the the not maybe not like in the name of jesus you know like that that that anger aggression
01:46:46.580But just the passion, desire of wanting to see your family whole and left alone, if we do that more continually, those little taps may not happen.
01:47:00.000Because I do think that when you pray over your home and stuff, I believe it works.
01:47:06.620But I think that it's like they keep pushing, right?0.70
01:47:11.020So you have this big bat and you hit them out of the yard.
01:47:13.960they're just going to land and start crawling their way back. And so, um, I think it's the
01:47:19.500continual prayer, I think is what we need to be putting more in practice. And I'm not perfect at
01:47:23.880it. Um, we, we have had things happen in the house. We, we had a banging situation on my house
01:47:29.400not too long ago, probably a few months ago now. Um, and I searched my entire property.
01:47:34.000That's what I love about being in East Tennessee. I can walk around my, my property anytime a day
01:47:38.240with an AR, my neighbors are like, Hey neighbor, like, Hey, how you doing? You know, nobody cares.
01:47:43.180My neighbor comes out and he sees me with my AR walking around my property.