Nephilim Death Squad - Spiritual Warfare w⧸ Ed Mabrie and John Lenhart

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00:02:33 Joining us today in studio for the first time.

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00:02:43 Dude, it's been two and a half, almost three years that we've been talking to Ed.

00:02:49 Yeah, dude, it's been a long time.

00:02:50 We are joined in studio by Ed Mabry and John Lenhardt.

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00:03:05 Where can people find you?

00:03:06 They can find me.

00:03:07 My main website is faithbyreason.net.

00:03:10 That's where you can find everything I've been doing for the last 10, 15 years.

00:03:15 Jeez.

00:03:15 Yeah, tons of stuff there.

00:03:16 You will notice that there has been a change in the layout because I am actually getting up to speed with modernity.

00:03:23 And so now my site is more mobile-friendly.

00:03:25 I was getting a lot of complaints from people saying that we're having trouble accessing it from our mobile devices.

00:03:30 And so I just moved everything over.

00:03:32 It was a Herculean task.

00:03:33 You say, I'm a Bible reader, not a tech guy.

00:03:36 Exactly.

00:03:37 Yeah.

00:03:37 My generation may have started the Internet, but we didn't master it, apparently.

00:03:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:03:41 Yeah, this kind of stuff is a nightmare.

00:03:42 It looks good, though.

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00:03:44 And I guess on mobile now, it's friendly for people.

00:03:46 Much more so.

00:03:47 And especially for the Spiritual Warfare class, which we'll be talking about today,

00:03:51 you can access the spiritual warfare course there and you get it's a 12 month intensive course with

00:03:58 that john and i are doing and you can access it there and the other place you can find me is on

00:04:04 patreon so patreon.com faith by reason and that's where you can become a member all my content

00:04:11 drops there first you can be a part of the of our jehovah story bible study where we go through the

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00:04:32 I'm working on right now we talked about the last time I was on and that is some

00:04:35 things to help people who are suffering from spiritual attacks at night and in

00:04:39 the morning yeah that's right yeah so I that's going to be dropping on the 14th

00:04:43 the first one which is for night for people because that's when people are

00:04:48 kind of in that phase between their conscious critical mind kind of

00:04:53 subsiding and their unconscious taking over when they dream and that is a prime

00:04:56 time for that veil to be thinned between the spiritual world and our physical

00:05:01 realm and it could be a time when the when you get demonic attacks but it can

00:05:05 also be a time you can walk in your authority so I have like 90 minutes of

00:05:10 teaching with some great background music to kind of help you get past the

00:05:16 Spiritual Attacks, and Walk in Authority.

00:05:18 So a lot of people have asked me about that,

00:05:19 and it's going to be available for about 90 minutes on YouTube.

00:05:23 No charge there.

00:05:24 And if you want full eight hours to help you throughout the entire night,

00:05:28 you'll be able to download that from faithbyreason.net and from Patreon.

00:05:31 That's really cool.

00:05:32 Before we go any further, let's also introduce John

00:05:35 and talk about where we can find his book.

00:05:38 Well, you can find my book at modelinggod.com,

00:05:40 but I'm Robin to Ed's Batman.

00:05:45 We get this right.

00:05:45 So you can find me all the same places supporting it.

00:05:49 And that's ModelingGod.com, you said, right?

00:05:51 All right.

00:05:52 You want to talk about FlowSest, too?

00:05:53 No, I just—

00:05:54 Okay, just ModelingGod.

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00:05:56 How dare you?

00:05:57 How dare I?

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00:05:59 All right.

00:05:59 So, yeah, I like what you were saying there, Ed, about that idea of the veil.

00:06:02 I believe that was a little bit of the discussion last time.

00:06:05 If that's truly what's happening when you're about to go to sleep, you're going to cross over through the veil, you know,

00:06:11 to what might be a spiritual realm where these things have a lot more influence

00:06:15 or can interact with you in a way that they can't in the daytime,

00:06:19 in the physical sense of reality,

00:06:21 then you might want to do some preparation before you do that.

00:06:23 Yeah, you want to be ready for it because dreams,

00:06:25 and it's something that John and I have talked about a lot in the past,

00:06:28 is that God communicates with folks through dreams a lot.

00:06:31 There are many examples of that in the Bible.

00:06:32 So because you are in your unconscious at that point,

00:06:37 the Holy Spirit can speak through your unconscious,

00:06:39 but you can also be influenced negatively.

00:06:42 And in the mornings, because what I'm going to drop on the 14th is for nights.

00:06:46 Mornings, I'll have something for that maybe in like the next month.

00:06:49 But as soon as you wake up, when you're in that point where you're transitioning

00:06:52 from your unconscious being in charge to your conscious,

00:06:55 that's another time when the enemy can start to oppress you 0.97

00:06:59 and tell you things like your day is going to suck today. 0.97

00:07:01 Yeah. 1.00

00:07:01 You are, you're not worthy.

00:07:03 Look at all these bad things that are going to happen to you.

00:07:05 But if you are prepared for that,

00:07:08 you can actually start your day in victory. Yeah. I mean, setting up your day in, in sort of,

00:07:13 I'm going to use a word here that might trigger a few people, but like the ritual of waking up,

00:07:17 right? Like if you do wake up, cause even outside of that, you wake up with this idea of number one,

00:07:22 waking up is kind of rough. You know what I mean? Like the, the, uh, um, uh, abrasive sound of your

00:07:27 alarm clock, you know, and, and just everything that goes into it and then having to get up and

00:07:32 go through the routine, um, you can easily start your day off on a negative foot and

00:07:38 that's going to bleed into the rest of everything that you do that day.

00:07:40 But if you can not just invert that, right.

00:07:44 And, and turn it into something positive, but turn it into something that's rooted in

00:07:47 scripture, that's rooted in, in, you know, taking thoughts captive in Jesus Christ.

00:07:50 Like that's going to be, to me, that's the ultimate version of, of starting your day

00:07:54 off.

00:07:55 Right.

00:07:55 And the complete opposite of all the, the drudgery and the heaviness that goes into

00:08:00 whatever most people's most people's morning routines are it seems like uh it's that that

00:08:05 wouldn't just be a good addendum to your spiritual warfare class but it seems like that would be the

00:08:09 basis to it like you everybody starts at the beginning of the day oh yeah and from there how

00:08:13 like how you've woken up and how you've slept determines pretty much what happens after but uh

00:08:18 could you like just walk us through so we're going to talk about this course yes we're going to talk

00:08:22 about what it entails and what you guys have been doing and you are already three months into it i

00:08:27 believe right um more we are we started in april so we are working we're almost at month five we're

00:08:31 starting month five okay wow so yeah you guys are well like a third through the year all right let's

00:08:38 do this okay let's talk about what you've covered already uh spoiler alert uh so but people can still

00:08:45 go back is it still it's not available to join yet or what's happening with that so there there

00:08:50 are two tiers to the course um the first tier is basically it's self-directed and you can join that

00:08:55 anytime um at tier one where you you we recommend you going at one one lesson per week and just

00:09:03 ruminate on that and meditate on that and then you can take the next week because you can go

00:09:07 at your own pace the tier two is where you have live coaching with myself and john basically two

00:09:13 hours every month and you're getting live coaching from us you're asking us your questions we are

00:09:18 giving you highlights of what we talked about and we deal with with the special situations we have

00:09:22 have a great class right now

00:09:24 of just some really awesome people who are

00:09:26 growing amazingly. I was going to say, that's got to be

00:09:28 like, you're personally interacting with

00:09:30 these folks, you're building relationships with

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00:09:36 community, now you're getting to know these people,

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00:09:44 are markedly crazier. 1.00

00:09:46 I'm sure there's some overlap.

00:09:48 There's so much

00:09:49 theology and doctrine

00:09:51 in the course, that when we have that two hours, it's mostly 80% personal issues people are dealing

00:09:59 with and very personal coaching. And it's amazing. So you really do get to know them very much, but

00:10:04 it's not stump the Bible guy. It's more like, how would I wake up? How would I wake up? How would I

00:10:10 do this? What's going on with that? Yeah, like real life application. Right. It's awesome.

00:10:15 Yeah. And one of our students, he literally said, you guys are rewiring my brain. And that is

00:10:21 literal because i mean this john handles all the mind and brain stuff and we'll talk about

00:10:25 that what that does and why that's a part of this course because i think some people saw

00:10:29 some of john's lessons and they were saying well why do i need to understand my conscious mind

00:10:33 versus my unconscious versus almost a silly question but when you get to it it's it's

00:10:38 absolutely vital and crucial especially as we're getting further into the course because everything

00:10:44 builds on itself so we're going to talk about defense that was our first three months the

00:10:48 second three months that we're on now are offense and you cannot do the offense until you have the

00:10:54 defense down and it's really vitally important that that idea of the psyche and as it applies

00:11:01 to this is i mean to me it strikes me as hugely significant um i i became aware of that when i

00:11:08 was younger so they have that that throwaway saying perception is reality and it shouldn't

00:11:11 be a throwaway because i do think it's a way of saying it's simplifying the the the way that

00:11:17 reality passes through the filter of perception determines your experience entirely. And I

00:11:23 realized that the brain is like a muscle. You could just put on rose colored glasses, right?

00:11:27 Well, yellow ones, blue ones, rose colored, whatever you got, really anything, just not a

00:11:31 clear one. But you know, this, this muscle can be worked out. And that muscle is some people will

00:11:38 look at the negative in their life. And it becomes a real problem if you're the type of

00:11:43 person that seeks communal interaction by, by bitching and moaning. If you, if you engage in

00:11:48 that, because it is the great connective tissue, we're all suffering to some degree. So you could

00:11:51 always bank on going up to somebody and bitching about the traffic. They're going to reciprocate

00:11:55 with their own woes about their own life. And you're going to build some sort of a relationship

00:11:59 there. But when you do that, you work out that muscle and that muscle is finding the things to

00:12:04 bitch and moan about. And when you develop that muscle and it becomes really sharp and really

00:12:09 adept at finding those things you can find them absolutely everywhere right the same is said for

00:12:13 the inverse so if you can start to look at things positively and and the ultimate positivity would

00:12:18 be through the scriptural lens but if you can look at things positively you'll begin to work

00:12:23 that muscle out next thing you know you'll be able to look everywhere and find something to

00:12:26 be positive about or grateful about ideally right and so the psychology of it is is huge and people

00:12:33 miss that a lot they think the world is pitted against them but it's your perception that's

00:12:37 pit it against you. The thing is, is that it's a combination. So people are saying, you know,

00:12:43 there's some people out there going, everything's spiritual. The devil's attacking me. It's all

00:12:47 spiritual. And then there's people going, it's all my own fault in my brain. But really it's

00:12:51 spiritual cause on a mental, emotional weakness. So if you think about it, the spiritual realm

00:12:58 knows your weaknesses. And so it's looking for that angle and it'll come at you differently

00:13:03 then it'll come at you. So we want to play defense on this end so that it can attack that. And then

00:13:09 when we go offense, we basically say, our example for spiritual warfare is Jesus. And Jesus only

00:13:16 and always did what God told him to do. So are you doing spiritual warfare by having God tell

00:13:22 you what to do? That's the brain part. So Ed's the guy who's going to load you up with tools.

00:13:27 God can't access tools that aren't in you. So you need the tools, but then under pressure,

00:13:33 Can you hear from God when you're in stress?

00:13:36 And that's my part.

00:13:37 So it's really a combination.

00:13:38 We are not familiar with anybody doing a spiritual warfare class that counts for both.

00:13:43 Yeah, that's our unique, I don't want to call it a selling point per se,

00:13:46 but that is our unique angle on spiritual warfare

00:13:48 because we looked at a lot of other courses out there to see where can we basically benefit people

00:13:55 because if it's not going to be a benefit, let's not do it.

00:13:57 But we didn't see anyone doing it from this angle.

00:14:00 It was really all about, here's some verses you can pray over, and here's some things you can say, but it almost seemed cookie cutter.

00:14:09 It wasn't really geared towards the uniqueness of the person, because if you are just given, here's some prayer, Psalm 91, great psalm, but what if you aren't going through that particular thing?

00:14:20 Or what if you don't understand how you're specifically being attacked?

00:14:23 There is no blanket spiritual warfare.

00:14:26 Of course, that's why the first thing we're teaching you in defense is understanding who you are uniquely.

00:14:32 So let's back up a step.

00:14:34 It seems like, yeah, because my wife, she's actually over here pressing buttons. 1.00

00:14:39 Don't talk to the chat.

00:14:40 Tina the Turtle Terminator is in the house. 0.71

00:14:43 Let's go.

00:14:44 When she was sick, she was going through something.

00:14:46 And the two choices that she had were Western medicine, which is like this very hard idea of medicine.

00:14:54 And then there's also like, I don't know, Eastern spirituality, which is not necessarily good.

00:14:58 But there's a middle ground, which is functional medicine.

00:15:02 So functional medicine is going to take the pillars of whatever you are and your ailments.

00:15:07 And it's like, oh, how can we bolster this side?

00:15:09 Are you weak here?

00:15:10 And that's what she did and actually ended up, look at her now, producing.

00:15:16 I know, that's technically a downgrade. 0.79

00:15:19 Much to the detriment of the turtle life.

00:15:21 It seems like that's the attempt that you guys are making with the course.

00:15:24 Exactly, and I don't want to take us way off course,

00:15:27 but Western medicine is what's known as analysis.

00:15:30 They take you apart, and then they treat a part of you in absence of everything else.

00:15:37 The functional medicine is synthesis.

00:15:40 You step back and you look at the whole thing.

00:15:42 And not to plug my books, but Modeling God deals with the smallest system, and then Modeling God's wills deals with the bigger system, the biggest.

00:15:51 And if you understand the biggest, you can handle any issue.

00:15:54 So that's a synthesis.

00:15:56 Basically, both those books are functional or synthesis, because the minute you take something apart, it ceases to exist.

00:16:03 Versus if you look at something as a part of a bigger system, and then you can keep that part together and treat it holistically,

00:16:12 You're going to dissolve everything.

00:16:13 Last time I was on, we talked about dissolve.

00:16:15 So, yeah, you nailed it.

00:16:16 Functional is that synthesis, and that's our approach, too.

00:16:19 We're not going to get into memorize a million things

00:16:21 because you're never going to memorize enough, and you're all unique.

00:16:25 But you know the principles, and you step back,

00:16:27 and you let God flow through you with what Ed puts in you,

00:16:30 and God accesses those tools.

00:16:33 It has to be comprehensive, right, or else it's going to be take this to solve this,

00:16:37 and then that causes that.

00:16:38 So take that to solve the thing that this causes,

00:16:40 And then it's a never-ending chain of, you know, take this to band-aid that situation.

00:16:44 Yeah.

00:16:44 Right.

00:16:44 That's probably the big-picture goal of the Bible study that I do to help a story.

00:16:49 Bible study is to understand God's big-picture will.

00:16:53 And if you understand what his—and that's what modeling God's will does as well.

00:16:56 If you understand his will, what he wants, and what he wants is Eden.

00:17:00 He wants perfect provision, perfect protection, perfect community, and fellowship, intimate fellowship with Jehovah.

00:17:07 That's what he wants.

00:17:07 That's the big picture.

00:17:08 And every part of the Bible is about that.

00:17:11 So if you take a piece of the Bible apart and say, I want to look at this verse, and this verse means this.

00:17:15 Okay, does it fit with God's will?

00:17:16 Are you interpreting it through the lens of here's God's ultimate goal?

00:17:20 That's where people get in trouble, right?

00:17:21 Out of context scripture.

00:17:22 Yeah.

00:17:22 It's like if you take a car apart, you pull out the carburetor, the spark plugs.

00:17:26 Well, you're just focusing on that.

00:17:28 But you need to see how does the spark plug fit in with the rest of the car?

00:17:31 Right.

00:17:32 Then you have a holistic picture.

00:17:33 And the thing is, is God's will is really about how he brings about his will.

00:17:38 So the thing really practical, back to practical, it's like something's happened to me.

00:17:43 Is this the enemy or is this God?

00:17:45 And there is an objective way to figure out if it's God or the enemy.

00:17:49 You're talking about testing the spirits?

00:17:50 Yeah, and also knowing in your life, like, are you in God's will?

00:17:54 You know, that famous, you know, that famous verse that says, don't be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

00:18:03 So renewing means bringing it back out, bring your uniqueness back out.

00:18:06 You're not supposed to become something different.

00:18:08 Transform is really re-transform.

00:18:10 Get back to who God made you to be.

00:18:13 We've all been polluted by this world, and we're no longer being who we're supposed to be.

00:18:16 That's what I'm trying to do is help people be who they be.

00:18:18 So you may know what is the good, pleasing, perfect will of God.

00:18:22 To prove you're transformed is you can distinguish God's will.

00:18:26 And if someone can't distinguish God's will, they're not transformed.

00:18:29 Yeah.

00:18:30 So taking that step back to speaking of big picture, so what is spiritual warfare?

00:18:35 It's like in a sentence, spiritual warfare is words spoken with authority that allow you to push the enemy out of your life.

00:18:46 That is what it is.

00:18:47 And we're teaching you, as John said, we're teaching you how to do spiritual warfare the way Jesus did.

00:18:52 Jesus didn't do anything physical.

00:18:54 He spoke words in authority.

00:18:56 That's how he cast demons out.

00:18:57 He didn't light candles.

00:18:58 He didn't throw holy water on them.

00:18:59 He didn't do any kind of interpretive dance or anything like that.

00:19:02 He spoke words in authority.

00:19:04 But the authority he spoke words to, and this is something I want people to get because it's going to sound counterintuitive.

00:19:10 Jesus did not cast out demons through his authority as a son of God.

00:19:15 He cast demons out, and this is good news for us. 0.98

00:19:18 He cast them out through his authority as a second Adam.

00:19:21 Because when Adam and Eve, when they were commissioned by God, God gave them authority over the earth, God over the material realm. 0.50

00:19:30 Remember, on the seventh day, God rested.

00:19:32 And I know we've talked about this before.

00:19:34 When we say God rested, when he said he rested, it doesn't mean he was tired.

00:19:38 God ceased his activity, if you interpret it by the original language.

00:19:42 It says God ceased his activity of being the first cause.

00:19:45 After Genesis chapter 2, God no longer initiates his will unilaterally.

00:19:49 Everything he does after that is in response to what we do, to what the Elohim do, and he reacts through justice.

00:19:56 He said, Adam and Eve, you're the first cause now. 0.97

00:20:00 Adam and Eve had authority over the spiritual realm on earth.

00:20:04 So in the garden, when the Nakash, the so-called serpent, was there talking to Eve, 0.76

00:20:09 Adam could have said, Nakash, get out of here. 0.99

00:20:11 And he would have had to obey. 0.98

00:20:13 He didn't.

00:20:13 He failed in that sense, but he could have done it.

00:20:15 But Jesus was, among other things, Jesus is called the second Adam

00:20:19 because his body was a direct creation of God, like Adam's was,

00:20:23 and he never sent.

00:20:24 He had the authority.

00:20:25 So when he gives us that authority, you know, Luke 10, 19, I give you authority to trample on servants and scorpions and nothing shall by any means harm you.

00:20:33 He hadn't died yet, but he gave him the authority as a second Adam.

00:20:37 So we have the authority through Jesus as a second Adam to use our words to take control over these entities, our sovereignty over them, and cast them out that way. 0.60

00:20:48 But we do it through words.

00:20:49 Everything in the spiritual realm is done through words.

00:20:53 Now, words are good, but do you think that there is a—sometimes people say things and don't mean it. 0.97

00:21:00 Sometimes I've said a thing where it's like, you're not going to do that, and I'm like, damn, you might do that.

00:21:04 So you know what I mean? 0.92

00:21:05 You're talking about conviction.

00:21:06 Yeah, talking about conviction, so like your heart behind the words.

00:21:10 Obviously, these things have to be paired, right?

00:21:12 Because if you just speak a thing, is that respected?

00:21:16 So it does say you're going to be judged for every idle word.

00:21:19 the first month we cover the word word word okay word up word up i mean given what we're talking

00:21:28 about if if speaking words is spiritual warfare then that's probably a great place to start yeah

00:21:34 right and it's really informative because one word is graphe that means the written word and

00:21:41 you can see that as the what one word is logos you know jesus logos it's the word that brings

00:21:47 understanding that's like a human arguing and then one word is rhema and that's the uh basically god

00:21:55 speaking through you but we can speak rhema meaning we can speak it as a first cause and so when it

00:22:01 talks about blasphemy the holy spirit speaking a word against holy spirit that's rhema if you speak

00:22:08 something against holy spirit and give a reason that's logos so it's really important to understand

00:22:14 when you read the word word in the bible what word is that saying a written word a word with

00:22:20 understanding or you know a revelatory word that's that's the whole key so that's what we want to

00:22:25 understand that yeah and so another thing that's that's important to understand as we get into

00:22:31 spiritual warfare because i i'm thinking about the questions that were being asked to me early

00:22:36 on as we were developing the course and one of the questions i got was well god is all powerful

00:22:40 He knows these entities are coming at us and oppressing us and doing all these things.

00:22:45 Why doesn't he—what I said earlier is, you know, God is resting.

00:22:53 He is at a state where he is not initiating his will.

00:22:55 God has to work through us, and that's not diminishing God.

00:22:58 That is part of his will.

00:23:00 He works through us, and we are part of his story.

00:23:04 That's what, you know, the Bible study is all about.

00:23:07 We are a part of the story.

00:23:08 We are not passive participants.

00:23:10 We are active, but he gave us the tools.

00:23:13 In a story, Jehovah and Jesus are the ultimate heroes, but we are a part of the story.

00:23:19 We have, we're the heroic character in the story.

00:23:22 We can overcome our enemy.

00:23:23 He gave us the tools to do so.

00:23:25 Why doesn't he wipe them out?

00:23:26 Because he said, I gave you a sword.

00:23:28 I gave you armor.

00:23:30 You go in there and you do it because this is your epic story as well.

00:23:33 This is like the idea of dispositions that you talk about, the dirty word dispositions.

00:23:37 Dispensations?

00:23:38 Dispensations.

00:23:38 It is a dirty word, right?

00:23:41 Now it's so loaded.

00:23:43 Even though Paul used the word.

00:23:44 People say, there's no dispensation in the Bible.

00:23:45 Really, then what did Paul mean when he used that exact word?

00:23:47 I'm still struggling to understand what it means,

00:23:49 because my understanding of it on a fundamental basis, I agree with.

00:23:53 And then the way I see people.

00:23:54 I mean, but it's explained it 15 times.

00:23:55 Yeah.

00:23:55 Well, that's what I'm saying.

00:23:56 But then you see people's reaction to it.

00:23:58 I'm like, what are you reacting to?

00:23:59 Because this seems very straightforward.

00:24:00 People don't like the word.

00:24:01 Some people are using the word wrong, though.

00:24:03 That's why I always ask people, what's your definition of that?

00:24:06 And what do you mean by that?

00:24:08 Because I hear people use it a lot of different ways.

00:24:10 Yeah.

00:24:11 And dispensation simply means God deals with people differently in different eras.

00:24:16 That's all it means.

00:24:17 And if you don't believe that, then I want you to go and eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

00:24:21 You can't.

00:24:22 You know why?

00:24:23 Because it's not there.

00:24:24 So that command that God gave Adam and Eve doesn't apply to us.

00:24:27 We are not currently under the law.

00:24:29 Maybe a delegation would be a better—because it seems like—so we've been delegated power by God,

00:24:34 But the way he allows us to use that, it has been different throughout the ages.

00:24:39 So, you know, from Eden until now where the church is, I guess he's delegated the church for us to have that and the Holy Spirit to work.

00:24:48 So it means administration.

00:24:50 Isn't that correct?

00:24:51 Yeah, I'm afraid to get way off track on here, but I deal with that in modeling God's wills.

00:24:56 And so if you know the story of Job, the entire Bible is in the book of Job, the entire Bible.

00:25:01 It talks how God does his will, talks who God is, everything.

00:25:04 And the thing is, is that whole story of Job is God proving his point contrastively.

00:25:11 And what that means is, is, is he proves it by proving what it's not.

00:25:16 So he's like, Job is a good person.

00:25:18 And the Satan says, no, he has stuff.

00:25:22 Take it away.

00:25:24 Job's still a good person.

00:25:25 Well, he can do stuff.

00:25:26 Give him boils.

00:25:27 Job's a good person.

00:25:29 God's got a plan for eternity.

00:25:31 And he can't just go, let's do that plan.

00:25:34 Because you and I could sit there in his plan and go, you know what?

00:25:37 I think if he gave us, like, laws, like 9, 10, 11 of them, and if you violate him, you'd die, I bet you everybody would be good.

00:25:46 And then, boom, everything would cease to exist because he didn't prove it.

00:25:49 What he's really doing is with all seven of these cases, he's doing every possible plan you could have for eternity.

00:25:58 That's what all seven of them are.

00:26:00 And none of them work.

00:26:01 And then he can say, okay, now I can do my eighth plan justly

00:26:05 because none of the seven work.

00:26:07 That's really what's going on.

00:26:08 That's why I'm talking about synthesis.

00:26:10 Everybody's going to sit here and talk about dispensation involved.

00:26:12 Doesn't this one different than this one?

00:26:14 It's like, step back.

00:26:15 Why do we even have these?

00:26:17 It's because God is proving out his way is right contrastively,

00:26:21 just like he did in church.

00:26:22 It's like, oh, you think it's going to work?

00:26:23 Right.

00:26:23 Yep.

00:26:24 Because that's what we would say, right?

00:26:25 Yep.

00:26:26 And then the last one we talk about at the end of the Revelation series,

00:26:29 which is on my website, is the millennial reign,

00:26:34 where people get everything they say they want in order to be happy.

00:26:37 And people say, well, when you ask someone, why don't you believe in God?

00:26:41 JT left, okay, so you go ahead.

00:26:42 I can talk about the millennial reign being in the future.

00:26:44 So that already happened.

00:26:45 JT's a good guy.

00:26:46 We had a great little conversation when he was here.

00:26:49 We didn't talk about Little Season.

00:26:51 No, we didn't.

00:26:52 That's probably why we had it.

00:26:53 But the final millennial reign is when everyone gets what they want.

00:26:56 They said, I believe in God if he was here, if he was completely just and ruling justly, if we had everything we needed, perfect provision and peace and all that.

00:27:06 Jesus is going to give us that for a thousand years.

00:27:08 And what happens after a thousand years?

00:27:09 People are going to say, hey, this is great.

00:27:11 No, they are going to rebel to the point where—

00:27:14 This Satan guy looks all right.

00:27:15 Yeah, you know, we're going to go his way.

00:27:16 We hate being under this justice because justice means we get punished immediately.

00:27:21 So anyway, so the whole point is God can finally say, look, I've given you every rational, reasonable chance.

00:27:27 I've tried all these different eras, dispensations, whatever you want to call them.

00:27:30 Eras.

00:27:30 I like that.

00:27:31 Eras is a fair word, yeah.

00:27:32 That's a Taylor Swift tour.

00:27:33 I don't like that.

00:27:34 Is that true?

00:27:35 There's always one in every crowd, isn't there?

00:27:37 Yeah, please. 1.00

00:27:38 A Swifty?

00:27:39 Is that what?

00:27:41 An anti-Swifty.

00:27:42 Now they know too much.

00:27:44 They know too much.

00:27:45 So yeah, I've given you every opportunity and every single time you choose yourself over me.

00:27:50 So now I can justly say only my will is going to bring things about.

00:27:56 Only my plan is going to work.

00:27:57 So that's where we go.

00:27:58 We totally derailed you, by the way.

00:27:59 You said dispensation or dispensations, and then we said a bunch of stuff.

00:28:03 I mean, but, you know.

00:28:04 Yeah, it's all good.

00:28:06 IRL this time.

00:28:08 How does it feel?

00:28:09 How does it feel to be derailed IRL?

00:28:11 But you did bring up the defense and talking about what we've talked so far.

00:28:15 So the first three months, we talk about defense.

00:28:18 And so I'll talk about a little bit of the doctrine, and John can talk about the mind-brain stuff and why that's so important to defense.

00:28:24 So defense is teaching you basically how to withstand.

00:28:28 Because before you start in this course, oh, no, God's will is down.

00:28:32 You know what?

00:28:33 Before we go any further, what's interesting about that is I imagine maybe you've come across this in some of the questions from the people that you're engaging with is like, how do I get this thing out of my life?

00:28:43 How do I make this stop?

00:28:44 And it's like, you can definitely reduce the oppression to a great deal, but withstanding and defense is a long-term game plan.

00:28:54 There is no, I'm going to stop the demonic realm, the adversary, Satan, from trying to influence me, trying to tempt me.

00:29:02 Like, that doesn't happen.

00:29:04 You just are going to be armed with the ability to navigate it.

00:29:07 But for the rest of your life, as long as we're in these fleshy suits, we're going to be tempted.

00:29:12 Oh, we are.

00:29:13 we talked about the whole the morning routine I start my morning every morning

00:29:17 now because once we started this class I've been under massive spiritual attack

00:29:20 but it's been great because I've been able to bring those victories into this

00:29:24 course but I start in the morning with gratitude yeah that's the first thing I

00:29:28 start with I start by thanking God for for everything and then I pray my

00:29:33 spiritual warfare prayer I bring everything under the authority of

00:29:37 Jehovah through Yahushua Jesus yeah I like using his Hebrew name I you know 0.58

00:29:41 This is his blood.

00:29:42 He gave me this authority.

00:29:43 And everything that's coming up against me today, I bind you and all that.

00:29:47 I do that whole prayer.

00:29:48 That's how I start my day now.

00:29:50 So you have to start with that defensive posture because before this, you're being pushed back.

00:29:56 You know, the enemy is winning.

00:29:57 So the first step is to stop, to get, as John says, you know, you've got to get out of the hold first.

00:30:02 So you start with the hold.

00:30:03 So we get you to stop being pushed back.

00:30:05 You can stand now.

00:30:06 And that's what the armor of God is.

00:30:07 That's when Paul gives that passage in Ephesians.

00:30:11 He starts with, having done all this, stand.

00:30:13 So we're teaching you how to withstand.

00:30:16 You're not being pushed back anymore.

00:30:18 Now you can stand, not just stand firmly, but if you look at the actual language,

00:30:24 it means stand in a position of being ready to attack.

00:30:27 You're in a defensive posture.

00:30:28 If you've ever taken martial arts, you get into a stance.

00:30:32 You're in a stance that you can't be pushed back.

00:30:34 Now you're ready to go forward.

00:30:36 So what we teach you is to, first of all, understand that you have the authority.

00:30:41 You're walking in the authority now.

00:30:43 You're not a victim.

00:30:44 You can win.

00:30:45 And then we teach you about the covenants that you make.

00:30:51 We've talked about covenants before.

00:30:53 Because everything, as I said, everything is about words, but they're also about covenants.

00:30:57 God does everything legally.

00:31:01 And everything is subject to God's legal structure, including the spiritual realm, including us, including himself.

00:31:08 God cannot violate his own laws or he will be unjust, and God can't be unjust.

00:31:12 And we get into these covenants.

00:31:14 And a covenant, our words spoken over you are that you speak over yourself, that you come into agreement with.

00:31:20 And those words give, those covenants give authority to the spiritual realm for good and evil to work through your life.

00:31:26 So if you make a negative covenant, if you say, oh, nothing ever works out for me, or if you say whatever the negative thing is you are saying and you get into agreement with it, or if someone says something over your life when you're a kid, when they say, you know what, you'll never live up to your potential, you'll never be worth anything, and you agree with it, now that's a covenant, and now the spiritual enemy can come into your life and make sure that nothing ever works out for you, so forth and so on.

00:31:49 And so we teach you how to overcome those covenants, how to break them.

00:31:54 And then once you break those covenants, then we switch over.

00:31:58 And then this is a good segue into what John does, because you can do that in the spiritual realm.

00:32:02 We give you the tools, how to walk in the armor of God, how to break the covenants.

00:32:07 But that's the external.

00:32:09 Then you've got to work on the internal, who you are in your mind.

00:32:12 That's the thing.

00:32:12 It's like when we're dealing with these spiritual aspects or principles, it's very abstract because we're physical.

00:32:19 we're here so yeah you do need that that other it's stuff that we've been told our whole lives

00:32:24 by my mom will tell me this and that and it's like great how do i do it yeah because it's not

00:32:29 like a button i can press or an action i can do this something else that a mechanism that i don't

00:32:33 know how to use yeah yeah and the thing is no one teaches that and what tends to happen is people

00:32:39 who are experiencing that and who are who are very spiritual really they'd be modern day prophets

00:32:45 if you think about it like the prophets back then are seeing you were talking about dreams and

00:32:49 I always say to the brain, a vision is the same thing as a dream.

00:32:53 To your brain, it's the exact same thing.

00:32:55 So people, I've encountered a lot of people who either have tried to kill themselves

00:32:59 because they were seeing this stuff and they can't deal with it and no one's helped them,

00:33:04 or they just don't tell anybody, and then they just suffer.

00:33:07 And now they have a way to learn this.

00:33:09 So that's how, like, these people have come in.

00:33:11 What I do, though, is rather than, like, give you a bunch of things to work on to make you better,

00:33:17 I help you understand who you are and we step into that. It's a dissolved thing. If you understand

00:33:23 who you are and you understand how your brain actually works, now you're given the tools. Now

00:33:27 you're given the manual and now you can, you're not worried about patching holes and falling in

00:33:33 holes. You're worried about going up on a mountain, you know, in your uniqueness. So that's what we

00:33:37 really do the first three months is to really understand who you are and what it looks like,

00:33:41 that transformation. Who did God create you to be and how'd you get so far away from that? Let's

00:33:46 bring that back out. Let's, you know, dust the side off and just start going towards that. So

00:33:52 that's what happens the first three months is people start acting more like who they are.

00:33:55 And then people start to end up acting that way in their marriages. Marriage is a real good

00:34:00 cheat code. Cause if, if you got them, cause everything's in agreement and with covenants

00:34:04 and stuff. So if you've got a marriage that's really tight and you're both in agreement,

00:34:09 you can start praying for all sorts of stuff. Yeah. We do a lot of agreements. Like you do

00:34:13 the dishes and i'll stop hitting you it works out really well i don't know your wife looked a little

00:34:19 well i got a sink full of dishes sometimes agreements get violated you know it's like

00:34:27 crazy um you know you were saying before we we passed the ball i just wanted to touch on this

00:34:32 too i've expressed to you um on the show before that i if i'm feeling under the weather i will

00:34:38 use specific language and i kind of tread carefully i'll say things like if i if anybody 0.89

00:34:44 says things like ain't shit it ain't shit well if somebody like my wife will notice because she's 0.94

00:34:48 you know wives are always worried about if you're all right and she'll say you know you look a 0.98

00:34:53 little bit this or you seem a little bit and i go i'm coming out of it i was i had if i have to

00:34:58 admit it i'll go yeah i had something but i'm coming out of it i'm on the tail end of it now

00:35:01 always speak as if it's in the past but not just with sickness like i i i cringe you know internally

00:35:09 when i hear people and we've all met these people where nothing seems to go their way

00:35:15 and they're constantly telling you that everything is always going wrong this never works out

00:35:21 something is oh and then of course if they really get dramatic they'll shake their fist at god

00:35:25 because it must be god who is pitted against them and if you walk around with this idea that

00:35:31 nothing ever works out nothing's ever going to work out dog like that's how that's going to go

00:35:36 so there it works across the spectrum of things health uh you know circumstances in your life

00:35:42 relationships all sorts of things in fact one one more that i'll toss in there is the spouse who is

00:35:48 always um suspicious that their significant other is cheating to the extent that they actually

00:35:54 seemingly manifest that thing to use a new age terminology because the pressures and the stresses

00:36:02 that that idea is putting on your relationship will actually cause the very thing that you're

00:36:06 afraid of so i call that negative faith and i deal with that in this first because if you think what

00:36:13 faith is it's believing without seeing that's a substance right right but it what it really means

00:36:18 and again i tell deal this in modern god is it's believing in something you can't see either because

00:36:23 it's invisible or it hasn't happened yet. And then five verses later, it literally says,

00:36:28 you can't, you know, please God without believing he exists. He can't see. And a rewarder of those

00:36:32 who diligently seek him, something that hasn't happened yet. So the thing is, is these people

00:36:36 have so much faith that something bad's going to happen that hasn't happened yet. And so what I do

00:36:42 is I say to these people, that's what you have faith, but in the wrong thing. Now, can you have

00:36:49 that level of faith. Because when I talk about faith, which is a key to healings and all this

00:36:53 stuff, people are like, well, I don't know what that feels like. I'm like, oh, you're the first

00:36:58 person who knows what it feels like. Because all that negative faith you have, that's what faith

00:37:04 really feels like. Now just flip it. There's a Bible study that happens back here weekly. And

00:37:09 one day they have this dry erase board. It's hidden behind these curtains right now. But

00:37:12 I left this show to go to the bathroom, as I do often. And there's this dry erase board. I passed

00:37:17 by it it's got this quote that is a banger and i'll never forget it we should steal it and put 0.63

00:37:22 it on a t-shirt it says uh fear is faith in evil i said damn what a way to simplify that you know

00:37:30 if you can if you can take a thing a concept that is otherwise convoluted or at least can seem

00:37:35 convoluted and reduce it into its simplest form it's always a good move that was that right faith

00:37:42 fear is faith in evil like yeah you're right yeah you have a lot of faith yeah in the wrong

00:37:47 direction in evil i mean you know to put it dramatically but accurately but it's and maybe

00:37:52 it's a good thing that they they've experienced that they just need to be explained to them like

00:37:56 a witch would have a very easy time uh converting into christianity and understanding the principles

00:38:02 of it and really embracing it quickly because they've already embraced they understand the 0.89

00:38:06 spirituality of that side yeah yeah so come in on the other side of it you know it's just they

00:38:11 have to know that they're doing it and here's the thing that is also unique to our class because we

00:38:15 teach it both ways with the doctrine and the mind and brain, because that covenant that you make

00:38:22 with fear, and this is something that, you know, I struggled with, and it was passed down to me

00:38:28 from my family, my mom, my grandma, my ancestors, and we're going to talk about generational curses

00:38:34 in part three. We'll touch on that today. But when you get into agreement with that, because you hear

00:38:40 someone speak fear and you embrace it and you break that covenant well you also have to deal

00:38:46 with your unconscious mind because it's manifesting not just because of what the the spiritual enemies

00:38:52 are doing because you've given that legal right now they can bring that forth in your life but

00:38:55 you're also doing it yourself because your unconscious mind which is what john teaches

00:38:58 your unconscious mind is is 90 of your brain it's nine times bigger than your conscious

00:39:02 and it it's it's your greatest ally in a sense in that it's going to it's going to follow the

00:39:08 patterns you set for it. It's just going to do what you tell it to do. So if your pattern is,

00:39:12 I'm never going to be about anything. I'm about, I'm about nothing. I'm no one. I'm nothing. I'm

00:39:16 worthless. Oh, your unconscious brain listens and says, Oh, okay. That's what you want. That's 0.99

00:39:20 what you'll be. Okay. That's what we are. Right. So that's what you, so now you have two enemies

00:39:24 working against you. You have the spiritual enemies and now you have your own unconscious

00:39:28 mind working against you. But again, if you do the opposite, break that covenant, and then you

00:39:33 also have to break the patterns in your unconscious. That's a part of it as well.

00:39:36 This is something that I really enjoyed from – what's his name?

00:39:43 Who talks about being the dominant lobster?

00:39:46 Jordan Peterson.

00:39:47 Jordan Peterson, before he was killed and replaced with Shasha Baron Cohen.

00:39:51 He had this –

00:39:52 That's actually true.

00:39:52 He had this idea that he expressed in the book about the way that you would train the subconscious mind.

00:39:59 And he uses the example of agoraphobia, right, the fear of going outdoors.

00:40:02 And he says it starts as this small thing.

00:40:04 you have let's say a woman who has a negative interaction at a large event let's call it like

00:40:09 a concert or something like that and because there's so many people when it's so um high

00:40:14 energy she experiences something akin to a panic attack or an anxiety attack and so what then

00:40:19 happens is the next time an opportunity arises to go to something like that she declines and the

00:40:24 subconscious mind goes okay so things that look like that we say no to and then what happens is

00:40:29 it trickles down and instead of being a concert or something like that pick another large scale

00:40:34 venue that's not quite as big, maybe just a busy mall on a Saturday where shopping centers can be

00:40:38 a little hectic. It reminds her too much of that experience. And so she opts out of that and the

00:40:43 subconscious mind goes, okie dokie. And eventually that trickles down to, you know, high pressure

00:40:49 traffic situations where there's so many people and there's so many, so much noise. She opts out

00:40:54 of that. Now she doesn't go places on certain days of the week because there's too much traffic.

00:40:58 She also doesn't go to places where there's too many people because it's too anxiety inducing. 0.63

00:41:01 And eventually it leads to full-blown agoraphobia.

00:41:05 What's fascinating about that is the spiritual implications of consent.

00:41:09 You've consented almost outright to this condition being imposed upon you because you were given an opportunity.

00:41:17 Will you go to this thing?

00:41:18 And you say no.

00:41:19 And you don't realize all the baggage that comes with that.

00:41:22 So you've now consented to a litany of different fine print that says, okay, yeah, you weren't going to go to the show,

00:41:28 but you're also not going to go to the supermarket on 5 o'clock on a Thursday

00:41:32 when everybody's out of work.

00:41:33 There's other ways to get there, too.

00:41:34 You reminded me of boxers, UFC fighters.

00:41:38 These guys, you ever heard someone has a really good chin?

00:41:42 Chuck Liddell, the Iceman Chuck Liddell, great chin.

00:41:45 Used to stand in there, and he'll knock you out because he can take your punch.

00:41:49 He got hit one time by Rashad Evans.

00:41:51 Boom.

00:41:52 I mean, he hit him with a haymaker from hell just on the right spot,

00:41:56 right on the tip of the chin and turned him off after that chuck liddell was easy to knock out

00:42:02 his last fight he came back with uh to fight tito ortiz and he jabbed him and he yeah because what

00:42:08 happened there effectively is that his brain when you get hit on the chin your brain has a choice

00:42:13 and the choice is either to sustain damage or turn off and one yeah once that fighter loses

00:42:19 that chin or that iron chin it's just your brain learning it's like anything that resembles that

00:42:24 Yeah, you get touched, we're shutting down.

00:42:26 And that's what happens.

00:42:27 You'll see fighters lose that.

00:42:28 But that's not a conscious choice.

00:42:31 It's more like we're doing that to you.

00:42:32 It is an example.

00:42:33 Yeah, and this is what I help people with in my coaching is that your conscious brain,

00:42:37 it says 10%, your unconscious is 90%, and you are teaching your unconscious consciously,

00:42:44 but you don't realize it.

00:42:45 And then your unconscious makes you miserable if you don't do the thing and makes you feel settled if you do it,

00:42:51 which is addiction.

00:42:52 And so we help a lot of people break addictions, which is which is that third, you know, special situation.

00:42:58 That mechanism is actually incredibly useful, though, because I've had it in my life where that thing will my my mind will tear me apart if I don't do a thing.

00:43:08 And that thing specifically is if there's fear around it.

00:43:11 So throughout my life, there's been a lot of things that I aspired to do, but were kind of scary.

00:43:17 You know, martial arts being one of them.

00:43:19 and uh i would actually feel terrible and then go towards that thing because i don't want like

00:43:24 my uh unconscious mind or subconscious mind that internal narrator nagging me for not doing this

00:43:30 thing because of the fear associated with it would actually drive me to it because typically on the

00:43:36 other side of you know if it's not a damaging drug uses or something like that typically there is

00:43:41 great growth on the other side of anxiety inducing endeavors right and handling internal tension i

00:43:47 call that tension. So what you're trying to do is, is deal with the tension. So this, the real

00:43:53 thing I tell people is your brain is made to be addicted to something. You, you learn to tie your

00:44:00 shoes and then everything in your brain is, is making you learn it so you don't have to think

00:44:07 about it. So you don't get rid of an addiction. You have to replace it. That's, and that's how

00:44:13 I help people just get rid of these addictions right away is because I understand how the mind

00:44:17 and brain works

00:44:17 and I understand

00:44:18 how they can talk to it

00:44:19 and then I understand

00:44:20 how they can replace it.

00:44:21 But that's what people

00:44:22 don't realize

00:44:22 is they're forming

00:44:23 their own addictions

00:44:24 and then they don't want

00:44:26 to be addicted to anything.

00:44:27 It's a habit.

00:44:28 When addiction's good,

00:44:29 we call it a habit.

00:44:29 Yeah.

00:44:30 Good habit is bad.

00:44:31 So it's not inherently bad.

00:44:33 No.

00:44:33 No, right.

00:44:34 It's actually miraculous

00:44:35 that that mechanism

00:44:36 exists within us.

00:44:36 It's just how to use it

00:44:38 to our advantage.

00:44:38 Exactly.

00:44:39 I always say that

00:44:39 an addiction

00:44:40 is an inappropriate response

00:44:42 to an appropriate

00:44:43 need or desire.

00:44:45 That's really

00:44:46 what it is and it's unique to you and it's well this is a good time to get into strongholds

00:44:51 which was another thing that we talk about in in defense so a stronghold a definition of it's the

00:44:58 same as as in a physical war situation a stronghold is where the enemy keeps their weapons

00:45:02 and in our strongholds are a place where the enemy keeps their best weapons against us because

00:45:09 no matter how well you're doing no matter how much progress you've made if you don't take care

00:45:14 your strongholds the enemy knows i can always go there and and and make them fall and you and we

00:45:20 all fall usually in three areas and those are our strongholds those are the areas that we always

00:45:27 fall on and we teach you how to identify your strongholds because they're unique to you and

00:45:31 that's why we spend so much time in the first three months helping you understand who you are

00:45:35 uniquely because the enemy is not going to give you a blanket attack he's going to attack they

00:45:40 They are going to attack you in the unique ways that you are vulnerable.

00:45:44 We talked about mine, traffic.

00:45:46 Yeah, yeah.

00:45:47 But my response to traffic, because I lose it in traffic when someone cuts me off or anything like that,

00:45:52 and I drive like a maniac. 0.98

00:45:55 But I had to look at where that came from because it's not some person I don't know being a jerk on the road. 0.99

00:46:01 Living in California. 0.98

00:46:02 Yeah, it was easy to figure out.

00:46:05 What?

00:46:05 Yeah. But it traces all the way back to the initial spiritual attack that was put, that was aligned against me, or not aligned against me, or that I suffered when I was a child, when my parents were divorced when I was two years old.

00:46:19 Sure.

00:46:19 And the enemy was right there telling me, it's your fault. It's because you're worthless. I'm two years old. I had nothing to do with my parents' issues. They had nothing to do with me, but I believed it, made that covenant with it. 1.00

00:46:30 And so we talk about fight, flight, or flee.

00:46:34 Those are your—freeze, excuse me.

00:46:37 Freeze, yeah, yeah.

00:46:37 Yeah, fight, flight, or freeze.

00:46:38 That's one that was, like, neglected in the conversation for a long time, that freeze element, which is, like, actually probably more common, I would think, especially in—I've seen that most commonly in physical altercations where an individual will just allow a thing to happen to them, and there's no response, and there's no fleeing.

00:46:56 There's just taking it.

00:46:57 So I teach that in the schools because what's happening is a fight and a flight are both happening, amygdala.

00:47:03 And so what I teach teachers to do is don't turn your back because one of those is going to lessen and the other one will take over.

00:47:09 Because these teachers, the kid freezes, the teacher turns around and gets hit with a chair.

00:47:13 Yeah, yeah.

00:47:14 Or the teacher turns around and the kid's gone.

00:47:16 Yeah.

00:47:16 And so that's why I teach everybody, when you see a freeze, wait for the fight or the flight.

00:47:21 One of those is going to take over and the other one falls away.

00:47:24 But the brain's getting both.

00:47:25 Right.

00:47:25 So when I feel that, the rejection, when I feel that worthlessness, I get fight.

00:47:32 So that's why I get angry and start going into road rage.

00:47:35 But then there are other areas where if I'm not feeling like I'm worthy or something like that, then that's flight.

00:47:43 And with flight, for me, it's hiding.

00:47:45 When I feel rejected, that's what I hear is like, you know what, no one wants you.

00:47:52 You have to go be someone else.

00:47:53 No, of course, if I'm in a situation, a social situation, I can't hide physically, but I can hide mentally.

00:47:59 So you fight, you start punching.

00:48:02 I can stop being Ed Mabry, the perceiver teacher who likes bringing tension and likes pointing out where people are wrong.

00:48:10 That's what I do.

00:48:10 I point out flaws.

00:48:13 Okay.

00:48:13 But my point isn't to be negative, even though I'm seen that way.

00:48:17 When I point out a flaw, I want you to be more right.

00:48:19 I'm trying to make you righteous.

00:48:21 I'm saying, you know what, you're wrong there.

00:48:22 Let's handle that so he can be right.

00:48:24 But that brings a lot of tension.

00:48:26 And growing up, I would be rejected for that because I would be called negative.

00:48:30 Ed's always bringing out the wrong.

00:48:32 He's bringing out the wrong.

00:48:33 He's always bringing out the negative and saying, well, I'm rejected.

00:48:36 I need to flee.

00:48:37 I'm going to hide.

00:48:37 I'm going to stop being that guy.

00:48:39 I'm going to just be the happy-go-lucky guy.

00:48:42 So that was me hiding.

00:48:44 But that's a spiritual attack.

00:48:46 But that wasn't me.

00:48:47 And I'd be miserable because people would say, Ed's such a friendly guy.

00:48:49 I'm like, no, I'm not. 1.00

00:48:50 I'm a jerk. 1.00

00:48:50 You know, I'd like being a jerk. But, you know, I'm hiding. 1.00

00:48:53 One of the things you're highlighting here is like the amount of vulnerability it takes to engage in this spiritual warfare the correct way.

00:49:00 And it's it's a strange arena, one that I'm a little bit hesitant to go into because of the way that like Western culture has taken vulnerability and used it to prop up victimhood culture.

00:49:12 but what strikes me as significant is the victimhood culture is the aspect where all

00:49:18 you've done is the first step step of highlighting your vulnerabilities you've not taken any further

00:49:23 steps right well because i'm the same way like i'll see a problem and i'll point it out yeah 0.83

00:49:28 you're a perceiver she knows and then but i don't see it to point it out to be like that sucks 0.96

00:49:32 let's live in that i i pointed i'm like let's fix that shit yeah and but that's the next step 0.99

00:49:38 That's step two, right, right. 0.98

00:49:40 People just go, I experienced this when I was younger.

00:49:43 This thing happened to me, so therefore have some sensitivity or bend yourself to accommodate me.

00:49:48 So let's talk about this because this is one of the first things I learned from John when he and I started hanging out.

00:49:53 And he teaches – we teach this in the course is that we are all – we all fall upon this spectrum of what's called intangible drivers.

00:50:03 We've talked about that on the show before.

00:50:05 Romans 12.

00:50:06 Romans 12, yes.

00:50:07 Yeah, so it's, yeah, John took Romans 12, and he put it into this way.

00:50:12 It's not that people falsely receive as a personality test.

00:50:15 No, it's telling you who you are without, regardless of your context.

00:50:18 So there's a perceiver, which you and I, perceivers, we want people to see what we see.

00:50:22 Then you have teachers.

00:50:23 Teachers want you to understand.

00:50:25 They have compassion.

00:50:26 They want you, compassion people want to bear your pain as you grow.

00:50:30 Givers, they want to give you something tangible or improve something.

00:50:33 Then you have servers.

00:50:34 They want to meet a need.

00:50:36 Administrators, they want to help a group reach their goal.

00:50:39 They're going to tell you what to do.

00:50:40 Then you have exhorters.

00:50:41 They're the cheerleaders.

00:50:42 They want you to feel what they feel.

00:50:43 They want you to be excited for the future.

00:50:44 Now, if you look at that, if you go through all those steps, that's how you get to righteousness.

00:50:48 But you have to start perceiver.

00:50:50 We're going to show you where you're wrong.

00:50:51 You got to know where you're wrong first.

00:50:53 Then the second thing, then a teacher will say, okay, we know why we're wrong.

00:50:57 Let's understand the origin of this.

00:50:59 Then the compassion person says, let me bear the pain of that.

00:51:02 Let's bear the pain of you being wrong and understanding it.

00:51:05 Then the giver says, great, let's improve it.

00:51:07 Let me give you something that's going to improve it.

00:51:09 Then the server says, let's work on that need that that that that that wrong thing was was all about.

00:51:13 Let's work on that need.

00:51:15 Then the administrator says, here's what we're going to do.

00:51:18 You do this.

00:51:19 You do that to get to the goal.

00:51:20 And then once you get to the goal, the exhorters, the cheerleaders are like, yes, let's move forward.

00:51:24 We've gotten the problem taken care of.

00:51:26 Let's move it forward.

00:51:27 This is actually all of that.

00:51:28 The next guy going, there's another problem.

00:51:30 Exactly.

00:51:31 But you have to go through all that.

00:51:32 But everyone loves the exhorters.

00:51:34 They're the cheerleaders. 0.97

00:51:35 Oh, yeah.

00:51:35 Everyone hates the perceivers because all they see is you're pointing out the problem.

00:51:38 That's like an influencer, right?

00:51:40 That's on Instagram, like, wake up early, get after it.

00:51:42 It sounds like...

00:51:43 But Top, you and I, without us, there can be no righteousness because you'll never know what's wrong.

00:51:47 Have you ever seen that movie, Christina?

00:51:49 What's the name of that one?

00:51:50 It's a kid's movie where they're all at the control panel.

00:51:52 Is that...

00:51:53 Oh, about the emotions.

00:51:55 Yeah.

00:51:56 Oh, yeah, Inside Out.

00:51:57 Inside Out.

00:51:58 Yeah, it's sort of like that.

00:51:59 They don't want sadness, but sadness is a necessary aspect, and they don't want the...

00:52:04 All these things kind of are working together to create this whole person.

00:52:08 The thing is with the perceivers, I'm married to a perceiver, and the thing is that if they point something out and you try to argue with them, they will not hear you until you say, I see that.

00:52:20 Then you can move on.

00:52:21 So I teach perceivers how to share who they are so they can change their context.

00:52:29 The thing with Ed and I is I'm an administrator teacher.

00:52:32 I'm this big picture wanting to do models, and I make these models,

00:52:36 and then I talk with Ed the first couple of talks, and he's like,

00:52:39 well, you know, here's the thing.

00:52:41 This is the problem with your model, this thing here and this thing there,

00:52:44 and I'm like, thank you.

00:52:46 And he's like, I didn't mean to.

00:52:48 No, thank you.

00:52:49 So we had a good situation where it was naturally I'm drawing more of him out.

00:52:55 I'm like, Ed, be more like this.

00:52:57 Give me more of this.

00:52:58 I can't really have a model that goes anywhere if I don't have somebody like you

00:53:02 you know pushing on that yeah versus some people may not appreciate that i can still teach them

00:53:08 how to not you know shut ed down so that's what we're trying to do is help people draw that out

00:53:14 but for us naturally it's like when we when we met it was a while for ed to realize you're really

00:53:19 not mad at me i'm like i love this yeah i absolutely love this yeah you need it what's

00:53:24 so which one is the one that does like a problem solution the best problem solvers in the world are

00:53:31 what's called server teacher the the first one is the why it's the effect you want to have on other

00:53:36 people the second is the thing you do so these server teachers they see all the way around the

00:53:41 problem and then they can explain it and so the those are the best problems i've had this issue

00:53:45 uh where i it took me a long time to learn this but my wife would come to me with my wife 0.99

00:53:51 would come to me with you know whatever she had that was going on that was bumming her out or

00:53:57 you know upsetting her and i was unable to do the thing that she was looking for which is actually

00:54:04 just like listen instead what i was doing is like well why don't you do this or why don't you do

00:54:09 that and she doesn't want that yeah she doesn't want the solutions necessarily which now i

00:54:13 understand the value in in you know what she was actually looking for which was more or less um

00:54:19 a place to unload this stress and instead i was like well have you considered maybe what you

00:54:26 should be doing is this and it took a long eventually she was like i don't i'm not looking

00:54:30 for solutions i'm just looking for you to shut the hell up and listen and i was like oh okay 0.84

00:54:35 the thing i think we talked about this one time but women can have up to five thoughts at the 0.73

00:54:39 same time that's right we have men can only have one thought at the same time until we deal with

00:54:44 that one so what happens is when a woman has six thoughts she crashes so what i tell married

00:54:50 couples is, is, and I tell guys, is 10 to 15 minutes every day, basically ask your wife what 0.78

00:54:57 she's thinking about. Don't say this. No, you should, this will help both of you. So she knows

00:55:02 to do this. She'll talk about it. Don't tell her how to fix it. Don't tell her what to do. Let her

00:55:08 talk. She'll file it away. Do that two more times. And if you keep her below five thoughts, she's

00:55:14 never going to crash again. And so what I say to the guys is, so if your wife crashes, whose fault

00:55:19 is it? It's your fault. It's our fault. We should know if we understand how to do that. We're kind

00:55:27 of the mechanics because we only have one thought. They're amazing. Yeah. And the creativity and

00:55:32 everything. And we're supposed to be husbanding them. They're the husbandry. And we're supposed

00:55:36 to be making them more profitable. And the whole goal is, is if you constantly grow her, then you

00:55:42 never get used to her. Then you never get tired of having sex with the same woman. Ah. All right. 0.97

00:55:48 Yeah, look at that.

00:55:49 Check that out.

00:55:50 Jot that one down, audience.

00:55:53 Threw that in for free.

00:55:54 Yes.

00:55:54 So once you know your uniqueness and then you know uniquely where you're falling.

00:56:00 And, again, it's three areas, and it's usually going to be an area where you fight, where you run, or where you freeze.

00:56:07 And so to me, feeling worthless, I fight.

00:56:10 Feeling rejection, I flee.

00:56:12 And then for freeze, I don't want to talk about that now because it's somebody we're going to get into later on down the road.

00:56:18 But I know where I freeze, too.

00:56:20 And then John teaches you what your triggers are because there's something that happens that triggers it.

00:56:26 And, again, the trigger for me, traffic.

00:56:29 Traffic triggers me, takes me back to when I was a baby, when I was two years old, and I feel worthless again, and I got to fight.

00:56:37 But John teaches you how to rehearse those triggers away so that you – and you can explain what that means more.

00:56:44 But once you have that rehearsed away, you've taken away that stronghold, and the enemy can't use that against you.

00:56:49 You mean like helpless rather than worthless, or I guess it's similar?

00:56:53 Similar, yeah.

00:56:54 When your amygdala fires, it overwhelms your brain, and then you're not aware.

00:57:00 You know, this is where some people, like, I could be sitting talking to you, trigger, get up, kill a person, sit back down.

00:57:06 My body reabsorbed adrenaline in 90 seconds, and you go, you just killed.

00:57:09 I go, what happened to him?

00:57:10 You killed him.

00:57:11 I don't remember it.

00:57:12 And it'll block it out.

00:57:13 So that's kind of what we do.

00:57:15 I did this in the school system, and these kids would have, you know, all these seclusions and restraints where they have to grab the kid or put them in a room.

00:57:22 We help these kids rehearse their triggers.

00:57:25 It's gone.

00:57:26 It's a wild idea how much of your response to the world is formed in childhood.

00:57:32 Yeah.

00:57:33 That's when the enemy starts to attack you.

00:57:34 They don't have any honor.

00:57:35 They don't wait until you're an adult to start attacking you.

00:57:39 Because remember that these entities, they're spiritual.

00:57:42 They're higher dimensional beings.

00:57:43 They have to occupy at least 11 dimensions.

00:57:46 How do we know that?

00:57:47 Because according to science, we live in 10 dimensions physically.

00:57:50 So that means that the spiritual realm has to be at least one more dimension or possibly more.

00:57:55 So they see, even when I was a child, they knew this is a perceiver teacher.

00:57:59 This is what he has.

00:58:00 This is his state.

00:58:02 This is where I can affect him the most.

00:58:05 I'm going to make, he's a perceiver.

00:58:07 He's going to be telling people where they are wrong.

00:58:09 He needs to be brave in order to do that.

00:58:12 needs to have resilience. I am going to make him feel rejected and worthless so that he never

00:58:18 becomes who he really is. Because here's the thing, when you walk in your uniqueness, you are

00:58:24 dangerous to the spiritual realm. And that's what we're teaching you. We are teaching you how to be

00:58:27 not a dangerous retard per se, but we are teaching you how to be dangerous to the spiritual realm. 1.00

00:58:33 And once you know who you are, your uniqueness, that's what gives you power over the spiritual 1.00

00:58:38 realm because you are

00:58:40 going, because the Holy Spirit will be flowing

00:58:42 through you. And that's the last

00:58:45 thing the enemy wants. So they don't want you to be

00:58:46 unique. I talk about this in my

00:58:48 on faithbyreason.net

00:58:51 I have a series on what

00:58:52 the purpose of human government

00:58:54 the purpose of human government is to make

00:58:56 everyone the same. 0.94

00:58:59 That's what a governor is. It's like

00:59:00 it limits. Public school

00:59:02 is like that. Public school, college

00:59:04 especially. Everyone has to think the same

00:59:07 way about the same thing. You're either a Republican

00:59:08 or a Democrat. You are this or that. That's how you're a Californian or Floridian. No,

00:59:15 we're all unique. But anything that the enemy can do to make you the same, you're not unique.

00:59:19 And once you're not unique, you're not a threat. But in your uniqueness, you are a huge threat.

00:59:24 And they know that when you're a child and they begin on you immediately. We have to stamp out

00:59:29 your uniqueness. So the attack against you is going to be to dampen your uniqueness. But we

00:59:35 want to bring that out and make you dangerous so the dangerous side of this is that i there are

00:59:39 what like seven personality types right i mean i mean when i well technically what it's 49 it's

00:59:45 49 but go on because you're a combination yeah the why is what is the effect you want to have

00:59:50 on others your how is what you do is i'm perceiver teacher i want you to see what i see i do it by

00:59:55 teaching you okay yeah that that's that's like that's crazy because you're dealing with a well

01:00:01 an eternal realm that's been around forever and there's only there's less than 50 of these pair

01:00:06 like pairs and patterns because as we notice archetypes like i could look at somebody

01:00:10 and they could tell me a little bit a little about themselves and i could extrapolate from

01:00:14 there i'm like this is dangerous that i'm like right on yeah with just just meeting you in a

01:00:18 couple of minutes yeah so yeah when you think about further drive us into like even less categories

01:00:24 to yeah to further drive you into less categories with an eternal spiritual realm that wants to

01:00:29 jam you up in every single possible way and you don't even know who you are in the grand scheme

01:00:33 of things is like what the hell is going on here right so the the second uh quarter is offense

01:00:41 and the number one offensive weapon is grace and grace is the divine influence on the heart and

01:00:46 it's reflection of life grace is god flowing through you we are saved by grace through faith

01:00:52 so when you think of these eras i guess we're saying yeah how that grace got delivered was

01:00:57 different in different eras god talking to adam it coming through the law now you know in the

01:01:04 millennium it's going to be jesus saying it now we have the holy spirit and it flows through us so

01:01:10 it's it's always been graced by faith well god's flowing through us flows through our uniqueness

01:01:16 so that's the point of modeling god modeling god shows you how to hear from god more often

01:01:21 and more clearly and it is by being yourself more god speaking into who you are uniquely

01:01:27 And if you're not there, you're not going to hear from God.

01:01:30 And then the thing is—

01:01:31 Or he's speaking to who you're predestined to be.

01:01:34 Who he made you to be.

01:01:35 Right.

01:01:36 So what happens is it's like an antenna.

01:01:38 And so people, like, they don't hear from God.

01:01:40 They kind of hear from God.

01:01:41 They hear from God clearly.

01:01:42 They kind of hear from God.

01:01:43 They don't hear from God.

01:01:44 Right.

01:01:44 And then everybody lives their life going like this through the antenna.

01:01:47 But when you understand who you are, you stop there and you just start hearing from God.

01:01:53 So that's the benefit.

01:01:54 That's kind of interesting because we look at the Bible and we go, God consistently uses crazy people.

01:02:00 And, you know, it's not necessarily that they're crazy people.

01:02:04 It's that maybe God could effectively communicate with them because even though the world looked at them as crazy people for a number of reasons, depending on who you're talking about, they were authentically themselves and therefore a better conduit.

01:02:18 Well, it's the idea of strangers and pilgrims, guys that have realized that they're just passing through,

01:02:23 so they're not part of the world belonging to what everybody else thinks.

01:02:27 They know who they are, and they don't belong here, but we are here, though.

01:02:33 Here's something to keep in mind.

01:02:35 Prophets are perceivers.

01:02:37 What do they do?

01:02:38 Prophets go around telling, here's what's wrong.

01:02:41 God can speak to them because God has intangible driver as well.

01:02:45 God's intangible driver, God is perceiver, exhorter.

01:02:48 Excuse me, exhorted perceiver, sorry.

01:02:50 First and last.

01:02:51 Yeah.

01:02:51 He is the first and the last.

01:02:54 A perceiver how just states facts.

01:02:57 He states what.

01:02:58 That's what God does.

01:02:59 Here's what's happening.

01:03:00 Here's what's wrong.

01:03:01 But God wants us to go forward.

01:03:02 That's why he does it.

01:03:04 And perceivers, they say what's wrong.

01:03:06 And so God can flow through prophets because prophets are perceivers.

01:03:10 So God, he says what's wrong, and he wants you to respond by going, that's awesome.

01:03:16 There was one person in the Bible who always responded to God saying what was wrong with him immediately.

01:03:23 No arguing, no deal-making, no bargaining.

01:03:27 Just instantly went, great, let's go for it.

01:03:31 And that was David.

01:03:32 And what was said about David?

01:03:34 He was a man after God's own heart.

01:03:37 Yeah.

01:03:37 And so what John was saying about how God speaks to you through your uniqueness.

01:03:41 perceiver. You know, when God speaks to me is when I tell God where he's not wrong,

01:03:46 but where I think he's wrong. And so did David. If you read the Psalms, we talked about this

01:03:51 in a previous episode. A lot of the Psalms are David saying, God, why are you so far from me?

01:03:56 Why aren't you helping me? God responded to him through that because that's uniquely who David

01:04:02 was. He was being himself. He was being himself. And so when I'm saying, God, I don't like the way

01:04:06 this is happening. What's going on? Why are you doing it this way? And then I start teaching and

01:04:10 I start commentating, and then I start getting answers, and I get the answers more when I'm

01:04:16 doing that, when I'm teaching, when I'm explaining, when I'm pointing out what's wrong.

01:04:22 God talks to me then.

01:04:22 He's not going to talk to me if I'm being an exhorter or if I'm being someone who I'm

01:04:27 not.

01:04:27 If I'm pretending, God can't speak to me, and that's why the enemy wants you to not

01:04:33 be yourself, because not only are you not going to be powerful, God won't be able to

01:04:38 speak to you effectively because you're being someone else that makes sense because uh when

01:04:43 you're so caught up in trying to be somebody else you can kind of say you know your mind is filled

01:04:49 with all kinds of input and all kinds of contradictions all kinds of static and noise

01:04:53 have you ever told dave that uh tell ed that you were trying to be like jack sparrow for oh my god

01:04:58 when i was a kid uh after um pirates of the caribbean came out yeah i would i had this plague

01:05:06 as a child because of you know all sorts of uncertainty in my life uh where i would adopt

01:05:12 countless and people would go like oh yeah you're influenced by media it's not uncommon for a kid to

01:05:17 act a certain way like no no no no i would take on entire personas um cartman was one of them for

01:05:24 a long time that was really bad i was a child i was like a fifth grader talking exactly like

01:05:28 cartman um and and jack sparrow and a number of things but you were uh talking before about

01:05:33 uh, being a child and, and, you know, we mentioned how kind of insane it is that so much of your,

01:05:40 uh, future is determined by the trauma that happens when you're a child.

01:05:44 And I think it's going to bring us into something we touched on before we said we were going to

01:05:47 talk about, which is a generational iniquity. So if, if the adversary is out to, to kick you

01:05:55 off your path, even in childhood, that should be in every adult's mind who, who has a child.

01:06:02 what sort of iniquity are you introducing to your bloodline that could give these things

01:06:08 stronger access to your kid in other words because if that's the name of the game if you come from a

01:06:15 bloodline I came from a bloodline where my grandmother was practicing new age and she was

01:06:20 an abductee victim and likely there were things before her that allowed access to her so when I

01:06:26 was a kid all sorts of things had access to me and if the name of the game is to disrupt what

01:06:31 that kid's going to be, then general iniquity plays a massive role in the access that they have

01:06:37 to do just that. Right. And that's part of the offensive spiritual warfare we were talking about.

01:06:42 So John was speaking about grace as one of your offensive weapons. So let's talk about what the

01:06:47 goal of offensive spiritual warfare is. The goal is it's not to assault Satan. You're not going to

01:06:55 smack Satan upside the head. He's not physical. That's what we think. We're going on attack. We're

01:06:58 to start doing damage well first of all jesus already did that he he already gave us we already

01:07:03 have the victory through him he crushed the head he crushed it it's already done so what we're doing

01:07:08 is we the purpose of offensive spiritual warfare is you are pushing the enemy out of your life so

01:07:13 step one withstand get you out of the hole get into a stance and now you're ready to go forward

01:07:18 now you're going to push forward you are going to start driving them back and so that's what

01:07:23 we do and and the first thing we teach and the first thing i teach in offense is understanding

01:07:27 who the enemy is, understanding their strengths and their weaknesses, that they, we're going

01:07:32 to get to generational curses, but I just wanted to make sure we cover this too, is they can't

01:07:38 repent. They are doomed, and they hate being reminded of that. The last thing they want

01:07:43 to hear about is, you're going to the lake of fire. That is set in stone. You have your

01:07:48 time here. In the pseudepigraphal book of Enoch, we learned that the demons, who are

01:07:53 the disembodied spirits of nephilim they they were cursed to roam the earth until that time and

01:07:59 that's you know that's why the um the demoniac said to jesus you know why are you here are you

01:08:04 here to torment us before the time yeah they know their fate yeah that if you think you have a

01:08:08 upcoming court case and that gives you a tremendous amount of anxiety in your personal life imagine

01:08:12 what it's like to be this ancient entity that's waiting for the day of judgment i mean yeah that's

01:08:18 got to be measures beyond what you're experiencing in uh uh what is it uh jury duty right yeah what

01:08:24 i one of the things i say is like if if the devil reminds you of your past remind him of his future

01:08:29 yeah like yeah you know i've had some past issues but guess what your future is dog yeah that's a

01:08:34 good way to make them flee because it's in the book of james it says submit to god that's like

01:08:39 hanging out with somebody that's like every few minutes they're like yo by the way you got court

01:08:42 coming dog it's like you know what man i know i was doing a number on you but i don't even want

01:08:46 to be around you anymore i gotta get out of here yeah yeah yeah submit to god resist the devil and

01:08:50 he will flee from he will run from you but yeah you're right if you're if you're going to if you

01:08:54 know you're under house arrest you're about to go to prison yeah and somebody's just coming over

01:08:58 reminding you that constantly yeah you want to get away yeah you want to say hey get make sure

01:09:02 you work out in the gym yeah so be a plague to satan yeah exactly that's offense you're pushing

01:09:06 him out you're making him run because you're like you know dog you know don't drop the soap it's

01:09:10 coming it's coming it's gonna be bad yeah yeah yeah yeah that's a great uh great way to put that

01:09:16 yeah but but i'll touch on generational curses and we can we can probably circle back to some

01:09:19 things so understand what a generational curse is it's important because if people if you think

01:09:26 that generational curse is like god putting something on you unilaterally because of something

01:09:31 an ancestor did well that seems unjust like i didn't have anything to do with this why am i

01:09:35 suffering from it. So what a generational curse is, let's look at the definition of curses and

01:09:40 blessings. They're words. Again, everything spiritual is don't the words. When you curse

01:09:45 someone, you're speaking something. Just like a blessing is speaking something positive,

01:09:48 a curse is speaking something negative. The most common type of generational curses are

01:09:53 negative words, covenants that have been passed down generation to generation. And your mother

01:10:00 or your dad says them over you and you are in agreement with them because you've seen it play

01:10:07 out in their lives. My mom is a great example of this. My mother and my grandmother would always

01:10:12 talk about money in a negative sense. We never have enough. Money is a struggle. You know, we're

01:10:17 all this. And they would say, and of course, it happened in their lives. They never had much.

01:10:22 My mother, you know, the first of our, the first generation to go to, she was part of the first

01:10:27 generation to go to college. You know, grandmother, grandfather didn't. They just had barely high

01:10:31 school education. So my mother goes to college. She gets her nursing degree. She was the head 0.99

01:10:36 nurse at a large hospital in L.A., making good money, but she would never have any. Why? Because

01:10:42 something would always happen. The roof leaks. Got to fix it. Car breaks down. Got to fix it.

01:10:47 Somebody would need something. She has to give the money. So even though she had money, it always 0.90

01:10:53 left because she was always speaking that. And she was speaking with me, and I would start

01:10:57 speaking the same things and i was being in agreement with it so that's part that's a type

01:11:01 of generational curse and we teach we're going to teach you how to break those how to go to the

01:11:05 courtroom that we have access to we didn't talk about council meetings but um today but one of

01:11:11 the things you can you have access to as a christian is you are part of the council of god

01:11:16 because adam and eve were a part of the council in the garden of eden eden was a garden on top

01:11:22 of a mountain where it was called god's holy mountain that's where they would they would be

01:11:25 a part of Jehovah's council meetings. And at a council meeting, you have the right and the

01:11:30 authority to ask questions, get answers to your questions, to commune with God, and you can get

01:11:35 answers about spiritual warfare. What's happening? Who's doing this? You know, what can I pray to

01:11:40 make this go away or to address it? But you also have access to the courtroom. Everything is done

01:11:46 legally. A legal contract has happened there in the past. What you can do is you can confess

01:11:52 those things that other people have done.

01:11:55 You can't repent for them because repent is something

01:11:57 that has to, directly, that you do.

01:11:59 Because repent is turning away.

01:12:01 But you can confess the sins of your ancestors.

01:12:04 Who did, perfect example

01:12:05 of who did this, Daniel.

01:12:07 In Daniel's famous prayer,

01:12:09 he spent most of that chapter 0.66

01:12:10 confessing the sins of Israel. 0.92

01:12:13 He didn't do those sins

01:12:14 that got them exiled to Babylon, 0.75

01:12:17 but he was confessing their sins.

01:12:19 And how did God respond? He sent an angel and gave him

01:12:20 one of the greatest prophecies in all the Bible.

01:12:23 So you can confess the sins of your ancestors on their behalf. 0.67

01:12:26 And that's how you break that covenant and break that particular type of generational curse.

01:12:31 And then you have to work on your unconscious and start breaking those patterns,

01:12:34 start doing the opposite.

01:12:35 For example, let's say that you, like me, have that generational curse of scarcity financially.

01:12:42 Break the curse and the covenant, but then you have to start doing things.

01:12:47 I know that one thing that people who are afraid of money do, never look at their bank account.

01:12:51 Start looking at your bank account.

01:12:52 Every morning, wake up.

01:12:54 It's on your app.

01:12:54 Look at your bank account.

01:12:56 Say, okay, this is fine.

01:12:57 This is okay.

01:12:58 This is growing.

01:12:59 Understand it's just a number, too.

01:13:00 It's just a number.

01:13:01 These are numbers.

01:13:02 Yeah.

01:13:02 Start investing.

01:13:03 Just invest a few dollars here or there.

01:13:05 You have to start breaking the pattern of being afraid of money and thinking that money is scarce or evil.

01:13:12 So you have to start doing those things to break the pattern of your unconscious.

01:13:14 By the way, I want to highlight this. Not a bot in the chat said, I think of iniquity like debt. Generational debt gets passed down until it gets paid. And that usage of the word debt and paying that debt is massively applicable when it comes to Christ.

01:13:31 There's one more thing, and I want you to take care of, I want you to take over and start talking about some of the generational curses stuff, too.

01:13:36 But there's also, you talked about bloodline.

01:13:39 There's some research that I've been reading that I'm not going to get too much into this because it's something that I want to talk about in the course.

01:13:45 Sure.

01:13:45 But there is some actual physiological things that happen when there's generational trauma.

01:13:53 Yes, yeah. I saw this article came out recently, said the psychological trauma that a father experiences can be passed down to the offspring and some personality trait or something to that effect.

01:14:01 But as many as, and they put a number on like the generations, and I go, it's just science catching up to the Bible.

01:14:08 Exactly. That kind of trauma can actually physically pass on.

01:14:12 And I'm going to talk about that when we get to the third quarter of the course.

01:14:16 But there can be a physical expression of that.

01:14:20 But the good news is Jesus died for that already.

01:14:23 Yeah, it's been paid.

01:14:24 That debt has been paid.

01:14:25 The debt has been paid.

01:14:26 Right, it's all unconscious, though.

01:14:28 That's what's happening is you're observing your parents,

01:14:31 and if you don't say, I don't want to do that,

01:14:34 because we all grow up looking at our parents going,

01:14:36 someday I'm going to be like that.

01:14:38 And if we don't say we don't want to be like that when they do different things,

01:14:41 our unconscious goes, I'll make sure you do that.

01:14:43 So when you're running automatic, it'll do that.

01:14:47 And then the effect of that is you'll find it in your blood.

01:14:50 You'll find it in your chemistry.

01:14:52 All that chemistry stuff is an effect of thinking.

01:14:55 And that's what we really pass down.

01:14:56 We really pass down a way of thinking and we embrace it unconsciously.

01:15:00 When I help women who are attracted to abusive men, I always go somewhere in your life, you dated some abusive guy.

01:15:10 Your friends, everybody told you he's abusive and you said out loud, no, he loves me.

01:15:14 And you just told your unconscious, that's who you want to juice me towards.

01:15:18 Your unconscious is where all your energy is.

01:15:20 So if you feel drained, it's your unconscious.

01:15:22 If you feel juiced, it's your unconscious.

01:15:25 And that's what we're leading.

01:15:26 So your unconscious picks things up.

01:15:28 And if you don't say stuff to it and tell it what you really want, it assumes you want everything you look at.

01:15:35 And then it helps you be attracted to that.

01:15:37 Once again, in order to even achieve that or start to steer your unconscious mind or influence it, you have to do a lot of what is the Scientology causing auditing?

01:15:45 But like a self audit is a great way to describe effectively what you're doing is I think even within the occult, there is this idea and maybe it's not just the occult.

01:15:55 So if it's a biblical principle, you know, forgive me for not knowing.

01:15:58 But it's this idea of like know thyself, like to understand yourself, to understand what made you the way you are is once again.

01:16:07 it seems to be the first step in in reorienting and then becoming the person that you're supposed

01:16:12 to be but there's all of this external uh that happens to us that changes that and then there's

01:16:17 this internal battle that augments that even further and but like not knowing yourself just

01:16:22 and you know you talked about the the bank account thing this idea of not looking at it that same

01:16:27 thing happens with you know audit within the financial sense is one thing but then this

01:16:31 internal audit we don't look at that either we don't want to look at the things that made us the

01:16:36 way that we are we don't want to look at the past because it's traumatic and and it brings up bad

01:16:41 memories but that that thing that tells you not to look at it because there is something whispering

01:16:45 to you like don't look at it turn the tv back on put your phone on right get back on twitter

01:16:50 whatever distraction distraction distraction will keep you from ever doing that work and that's

01:16:55 called stagnancy right yes yeah oh yeah yeah you can remain the exact same flawed person forever

01:17:00 that way and it's comfortable that's why i like the intangible driver because you never go to a

01:17:05 psychologist and hear him say, you know, you got awesome man syndrome. You're funny. You're,

01:17:10 you know, interesting. You're intelligent. Every diagnosis from a psychologist is negative.

01:17:15 Yeah.

01:17:16 And so people are really afraid of the intangible drivers, but it's who God made you to be.

01:17:20 Yeah.

01:17:20 It's a positive diagnosis. It's something you want to accentuate.

01:17:24 Right.

01:17:24 So that's how I help people right off the start.

01:17:28 Well, we have a lot of stuff to do today, so we have to start bringing this one in for

01:17:32 landing is there anything that you guys want to say as we do have tomorrow i mean tomorrow we have

01:17:35 an open schedule so maybe a part tomorrow's the tomorrow's friday but like that's the vip day

01:17:40 yeah oh we do have the we do have the morning that's right yeah maybe we'll do a part two and

01:17:45 we'll talk about more we'll talk more about the special situations because i think we want to

01:17:49 talk about addictions because that's a huge special situation yeah and and the the last

01:17:54 quarter is being generative and that is um duplicating what we do building that army of

01:17:59 people who are dangerous because of what they know now and so you go through this course then

01:18:04 we want you to teach five more people and so forth and so on and that builds the army and that's

01:18:09 that's what the last three months were about teaching you how to teach this to others one

01:18:13 thing i do want to say before we before we bring it in because i was reminded of the story when

01:18:17 john was talking about you know what he teaches to women who who get into abusive relationships

01:18:21 um a friend of mine he has a daughter she's she's in her early 20s now but she was when she was a

01:18:27 teenager you know she was getting into boys and things like that and she and a few of her friends 1.00

01:18:30 were hanging out and I wanted to talk to them but you know teenage girls they don't want to talk to

01:18:34 the old guy I'm like but I can help I want to talk to you about the kind of guy you're going

01:18:37 to be attracted to and so that perks them up because they were interested in guys and so 0.99

01:18:42 I told them because they were saying like why am I attracted to to these guys who are jerks I don't 0.99

01:18:46 want to be I said because you what happened the first guy you went out with was probably a bully 0.99

01:18:53 Why?

01:18:53 Because when you are a girl, a young lady, you realize how unsafe things can be.

01:19:00 Guys are bigger and stronger than you.

01:19:01 You want to be safe. 1.00

01:19:02 Women want to be safe. 1.00

01:19:04 We all want to be safe. 1.00

01:19:05 Women want to be physically safe.

01:19:07 Well, there's a guy who can protect you. 1.00

01:19:09 Who's going to protect you?

01:19:10 Oh, the biggest, toughest guy. 0.92

01:19:12 The biggest, toughest guy is usually either a bully or a jock.

01:19:15 So you're attracted to that personality. 1.00

01:19:18 and someone tells you when you start dating him oh he's a bully he's a jerk and i said no he's a 0.99

01:19:24 good man you just don't know him like i do your unconscious says oh that's what you want you do 0.99

01:19:27 that over and over again yeah your unconscious has built that up and so now you're only attracted 0.99

01:19:31 to bullies and jerks and then you wonder why why am i never attracted to a good guy why is it when i 0.98

01:19:37 go out with a good guy i get the ick as i guess i think that's the common term why do i get the 0.99

01:19:41 nice guy type of deal right because you've trained your brain that way so what do you do like john 0.99

01:19:46 said, you intentionally say, one, I don't want to date the jerk anymore. And then you have to 1.00

01:19:51 do the opposite, intentionally date the good guy. But understand that the good guy is still going

01:19:55 to give you the ick at first. What you have to keep doing over and over again is date the good

01:19:59 guy and keep saying, this is what I want. These are the things I like about him. And slowly but

01:20:04 surely, your unconscious is going to say, oh, this is what you like. Okay, I get it. I get it.

01:20:08 I believe you now. I believe you now. Because your unconscious knows when you're full of BS.

01:20:12 Yeah. 1.00

01:20:13 And if you say, I want the nice guy, but you keep going after the jerk guy, the jerk unconscious says, oh, you're full of shit. 1.00

01:20:19 We talk about this all the time on the show, how God will send a strong delusion to those who don't want to see the truth. 1.00

01:20:24 And, you know, you even tell me, like, God will give you what you want.

01:20:26 What do you want?

01:20:27 You know, do you want a relationship with the truth or do you want a relationship with lies?

01:20:31 And it strikes me as maybe this is the mechanism by which God achieves that.

01:20:37 in you like if you had a biological or psychological mechanism that god created and then used to do

01:20:43 just that that this might be it yeah and just to wrap up the story she's in her early 20s now she's

01:20:48 engaged to a very nice guy there you go because she she did it she says at first i don't even like

01:20:53 him but then i was around him more and my unconscious says okay this is what you want

01:20:57 and now she said now he's the cutest thing in the world there you go so that's that's that's how

01:21:01 that's like the idea of like learning to love somebody but they're actually like learning to

01:21:05 train themselves. Right. Exactly. Attraction can change. Yeah. We can, you know, these people go

01:21:11 on one date, go on not attract to them. They're missing out because your attraction can change.

01:21:15 It can get more or less. Yeah. All right. Well, I think this is actually hugely

01:21:20 kind of important for understanding yourself. Hopefully somebody in the chat. I mean, I,

01:21:26 a lot of this resonated with me. It makes a lot of sense. I have a very limited understanding of

01:21:30 like human psychology but i i do think i know people better than the average cat and all of

01:21:36 that made sense within that context yeah i'm looking forward to we let's do let's do the part

01:21:40 two run it back again um yeah i think i think it's going to be a good thing but man ed thanks

01:21:46 for coming down thanks for coming down john yeah yeah it's really cool to get you guys here in uh

01:21:50 in studio yeah um before we get out of here let's remind everybody we'll start with ed

01:21:54 Sure. FaithByReason.net, that's where you can find all the stuff I've been doing for over a decade.

01:22:01 It's where you can access the Spiritual Warfare course we've been talking about.

01:22:05 You can purchase it there.

01:22:06 You can be a part of the Tier 1 now that's still open, and you can self-direct it.

01:22:13 Tier 2, we've had to cut because we are almost five months in.

01:22:17 It would just be too much for you to catch up.

01:22:20 We want to make sure you're getting your money's worth.

01:22:21 There's 52 pages of content, by the way.

01:22:24 There's a lot of stuff there.

01:22:26 So if you become a member, you can get access to all that.

01:22:29 We're going to start the Tier 2 again next year when we've gone through this.

01:22:33 But we don't want you to spend a bunch of money and not get the full access and get everything that we – and not fully get it.

01:22:40 So you can do that there.

01:22:41 And also you can go to – my full Revelation series is there as well, 60 episodes.

01:22:46 You can also go to my Patreon, patreon.com slash faithbyreason.

01:22:51 All the new content drops there first.

01:22:53 Q&As, you can be a part of the Bible study there.

01:22:56 You're also a part of the Bible study if you enroll in the Spiritual Warfare course.

01:23:01 And, yeah, books.

01:23:02 I just dropped a new book on the Seven Letters of Seven Churches.

01:23:06 I call it the Jesus Code.

01:23:08 I think we have a box of books.

01:23:10 We have two boxes.

01:23:11 I got them up there in storage.

01:23:13 Perfect.

01:23:13 If you're going to be at Bohemian Grove, you could actually get a copy and then ask Ed to sign it right there.

01:23:18 I'll sign it for you, and it'll look like spiders fighting, as my wife says about my situation.

01:23:22 I can get all that there.

01:23:23 How cool is that?

01:23:24 All right.

01:23:25 And, John, where can we find your books?

01:23:27 Modelinggod.com.

01:23:28 And actually, both of these books are part of the Spiritual Warfare course.

01:23:32 Very cool.

01:23:32 So we actually go through these books.

01:23:34 Oh, excellent, excellent.

01:23:35 It's like course material.

01:23:36 Very cool.

01:23:37 Awesome, awesome, awesome.

01:23:38 All right, man.

01:23:38 Guys, thank you.

01:23:39 Another great episode at NDS.

01:23:40 I say that every time.

01:23:41 But it is always a great episode.

01:23:43 i thought so this one in person and this is a big deal guys uh we'll see you next time uh

01:23:49 we'll see in a couple minutes but peace

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Nephilim Death Squad - August 15, 2026

Spiritual Warfare w⧸ Ed Mabrie and John Lenhart

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