Year In Review 2025 | NDS
Episode Stats
Length
2 hours and 23 minutes
Words per Minute
195.71811
Hate Speech Sentences
103
Summary
It's the last episode of the year, and it's not even close to being the end of the decade. Toplops and CoDameron discuss their favorite moments of 2019, and what they're looking forward to in 2020.
Transcript
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And this is the last episode of Nebelum Death Squad of 2025.
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That's what was supposed to happen when I pressed that button.
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We would have been here a lot sooner had we not.
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Of all days, we should have set the fog machine up today.
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Apparently, the water only goes off when it detects heat, though.
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Those are specifically designed to detect heat.
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What would have gone off instead would have just been the beep, beep, beep, beep.
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But we could have, I don't know, sandwich bagged the alarm or something like that.
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And we've not put any thought into that whatsoever.
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But what we did do was let the Patreon know that we were looking for some input as to all
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the highlight moments of 2025 from everything that came out of NDS and Chronicles and Neft
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to America and Straight Bible and all these things that we've built up here.
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I saw some of the comments and I was like, damn, dude, that all happened this year?
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So, you know, this is only on Patreon right now.
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You guys who are listening live right now, engaging in the live chat, you saw Johnny Woodard
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I posted a question, or more just a post on Patreon talking about that we were going
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And the very first response we got was from Chuck.
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Who, by the way, has been, he's emerged, and he's shown himself, long-time listener,
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So that's something nice that happened this year.
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He is a shower, and he's also a bit of a grower.
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Do you know how this year, well, last year ended?
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But the first episode of Dangerous Retards, which, well, what are your thoughts on that show?
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As far as quality, the type of content we were making.
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Well, I mean, I think it's a good show because I think people liked it.
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I think we find ourselves in this situation a lot where we bring on, like, a taller white
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Um, yeah, we bring a taller white guy, nearly bald, or at least I see a theme.
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So, um, you were saying we bring on a tall white guy.
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There's a healthy in between, where it's like a little bit of hair.
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And then it changes the dynamic of the show of what we're doing.
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We go to, like, extreme gay politics or straight Bible.
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I feel very much the same way as you in regards to the content we were creating on Dangerous
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And the reason that it did is because Dangerous Retards was something that I wanted to do for
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And if you remember, I was always pushing for it, but there was just never an opportunity
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We kind of came up against that multitude of times, but I just knew that something there...
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It's just, it's a little bit of a flex, but yeah.
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I did push for it a multitude of times and then, but you, and you kept saying it just
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Over and over again, we would have that conversation.
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Didn't say, but what I did know was the branding was fantastic.
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And, and even the formula, I think was a winning recipe, but at the end of the day, it, once
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The reason I didn't like it, and it's not, it's not a knock on our, our co-host at the
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time, it was exhausting for me, like to do, um, to keep up with politics in that way,
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It was a political show that we kind of made fun.
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Like what really was fun about it was just the intro, which is something like a boomer
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Uh, and then we had some topics to hit and we're like, is Ian Carroll gay?
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It was like, yeah, well, that was a lot of fun.
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But then when it came to like, what's Thomas Massey doing or something like that, it was
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And I'm just like, ah, dude, here, let's, this is, this is the description for it.
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Um, is the AI generated or did we type this up?
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So they begin by analyzing the impact of H1B visas on the American workforce.
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The conversation shifts to Elon Musk examining his role as a polarizing figure in tech and
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And then we're talking about, uh, the trio also delves into the rise of Vivek Ramaswamy.
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Um, but, but it was like lowering, this is what I said.
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I had to lower my ideas to engage in a thoughtful way.
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My ideas are, well, it's sort of, kind of, I mean, he brings an element that like, okay.
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And then you're like, let's sprinkle politics in there pretty much every single time.
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You know what they do have, they both have in common.
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I think it's like the politics thing and the boomers thing.
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That just, you look at a guy dressed like, eh, well, maybe it's just being a big fan of
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Dude, I'm going to be perfectly honest with you.
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You want to see a man reach into another man's chest cavity, rip his heart out.
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I like when they do the, like they're, they, they, they spring the traps and somebody
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gets like blasted with some sort of toxic smoke and it melts the skin out there.
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I mean, I, you know, I, I appreciate the dedication to the bit, but yeah, it
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was, um, it was, uh, why am I getting, oh God, no, you guys probably can't hear, but
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So, um, uh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, I saw Alex Jones say yesterday, maybe yesterday, the day before
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You see, like we've, this is how far behind they are.
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Like we've already branded it and burn the bridge and burn the bridge.
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I mean, look at, look at my fucking, my gun still has the dangerous retard.
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Like, like seven of you guys got this and that's it.
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But my point is, um, God forbid they get arrested for it.
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So, so I look at that and I go like, what, was that us?
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Because I know that retarded was, and you know, you could see it coming back in this
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Did we, did we, and, and Hey, this is to the chat.
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You can tell us if we're, or tell me, cause I'm the one posing the question.
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If I'm being too retarded, if I am too full of myself, but I got to ask the question.
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Did we strap a rocket on retarded on retarded in 2025?
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And then we just, and then we just, then we back it alone.
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We said, we just black, black, black, black away from it.
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I just, my thing is I, there's a little part of me that there's a sadness.
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I'm not bitter and I've let it go and I moved on, but I look back.
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And it was just one of my favorite things for a time.
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I think I, I, I, maybe I'm just a hipster with it.
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Cause like we were doing it and it was like, that was a lot of fun.
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And then other people like, yeah, I'm totally retarded too.
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And then you look at me like, you ain't fucking retarded.
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Ooh, I like when you said, uh, you were in on retarded a bit early.
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I guess, I guess we should jump straight into it then because, uh, the entire year kicks
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off with that and then, and then it just goes up in flames.
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Well, no, I mean, it, it builds, it crescendos for a while for a few months.
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Oh, were you doing like a, what are those things you put on the stovetop?
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She just boils the water and just pours it over her skin.
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Any kind of pigmentation comes off in the morning.
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She comes and goes, you know, in and out of the astral realm.
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Well, just don't, don't, you know, put her shit out there.
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Don't tell all her secrets about her lucid dreaming and she won't.
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Well, I mean, we all learned a valuable lesson.
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And mine was to not share Nancy's secrets about astral projection or lucid dreaming on
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Well, don't tell people this is evergreen content.
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Anyway, so, so I guess that's weird that it took as long as June.
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I could have swore this all happened like at the beginning of the year months.
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It took six months months for us to do this show.
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Look, we were playing footsie with with him a little bit, too.
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So episode number two, Cash Patel confirmed as FBI director.
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Things that I couldn't care less about as we stand right now.
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I mean, I lost the email, but there was actually I'll share a little inside baseball with the
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So Seamus is a guy that pretending to be Clint Russell.
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I mean, I got a new phone, so I got logged out.
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But I would check in like a couple every couple of weeks.
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And Seamus would be like, Trump is a double secret agent.
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So I would just like go to Q proofs, copy, paste.
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And you don't ever fucking let me in on the fun, dude.
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I'm like, you're just not trusting the plan hard enough.
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And then I'd sign off like slash Clint Russell.
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You said when Q said you are watching a scripted movie, were they just talking about it?
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Dude, you have really been going crazy with this guy.
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Somebody's got to fucking keep us from falling off of the cliff on either side.
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I was talking to him a couple of times to keep him going.
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Because I do think it's funny that it's like this guy has a really high profile account.
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And some guy that's like real concerned about his like welfare of like what he's thinking
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I'm just like, listen, these people don't fucking know.
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Well, let me be honest, I've been I think I've been doing this since even before we
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He just keeps emailing the day that I said like, hey, dude, you got to stop.
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But do you see why it was the show was exhausting?
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We got episode three, the Tate Brothers not welcome in Florida.
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I mean, it's kind of funny, but like, OK, here's number five.
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I mean, I think the show really climaxed with our when Toad, not when Toad gets fired.
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So this happened one week and then the next week, Toad, Toad is like at the tip of this
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So, yeah, well, that's funny because it was called the Toad of the Spear.
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Well, so Kanye drops that song and we're like, yo, all right, here are the the social
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Like Dave Smith, everyone is all flustered about the Jews and all stuff like, no, no,
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Toad comes out with a cover and then gets fired about a week later after that.
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I think that's when things started to get turned upside down.
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That's where, yeah, the world got inverted and everything went super crazy.
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Um, I think that maybe there's even something to be said about the the tension that went
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into this entire, you know, losing of the venue for Bohemian Grove and all the stuff that
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ultimately led to the demise of Tower Gang and Dangerous Retards and all this shit probably
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And the reason I say that is because it did put some pressure on the gang because you
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have this clear clip, which Laney edited into the intro of Tower Gang, where you're like
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saying like, hey, you know, this is you're going to get this is if you do this thing.
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And I'm not saying Clint bears any responsibility at all.
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It's just really funny the way that it was framed.
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But no, it's always been we've told each other, hey, there's consequences to what we're doing.
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So when you keep on, I told and I had told Toad privately as well.
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It's like sometimes we do things and we're like, this is funny.
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But I was like, no, no, you've expertly poked the nest.
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I would love to know to what degree that the virality was reached on that Toad cover.
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You will never know because it's been shared around.
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So many people like people that I don't that don't follow me online.
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There was a like we put a clip on Facebook of Toad the last when he was on the show.
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And someone on my personal Facebook was like, I saw that guy.
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I wish that I can't even find like the original post.
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But I know it had to be, you know, plus 20 million.
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I mean, there's one here that's like somebody we don't even know who shares it.
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But like, yeah, you can't really you can't really tell because it just gets shared, you know, over and over again from all these different, you know, all these different accounts.
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It was a surreal moment just knowing like what was happening culturally.
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I think there was a significant cultural impact that that song had.
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And then, you know, even more so after he gets fired, you know, the ripple effect from that is significant.
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And really, it all does sort of come to a head at Bohemian Grove with him strumming his little ukulele singing Nigga Howe Hitler on stage.
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Let's check this out because I think it's the beginning of this.
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Well, of course, there's like ads for Ivermectin on here.
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Like, hey, do you know if you put your phone in Rice?
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It's so funny how many people still reach out about that show, though, to like try to either be on it or some shit.
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If someone's going to put that word on their song, don't get mad on people who wrote it.
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If you're putting it on the song, I feel like you're asking people to say it.
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Like, not that I'm trying to encourage you to, but it's not that big of a deal.
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So the intro went hard, but it was incredibly taxing to do.
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Hearing that song, hearing the intro there, and then hearing the Howl Hitler cover by Toad
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really did kind of bring you back down memory lane there.
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Yeah, we were like mad men during that era there.
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We just get on stage and just go, and it just, as hard as you could go for Brohimi and Grove.
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Like you explained yesterday to Danielle of something about Rabbits podcast.
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I was telling you, it went this way, it went that way, and we're not trying to.
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It was like, no, no, there was only one way for that show to go.
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This was the way that it was going to always go.
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Now, looking at what was happening and being reminded of the energy of that time, you're
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There was only one way Brohimi and Grove was going to go.
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And, you know, I've gone back and forth my feelings on the event.
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And while I was there, it was incredible how I felt post-nut after the entire event, I felt
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I felt a little bit concerned with the direction that I was going and the fruits that I was
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And, you know, it changed my trajectory and certainly the trajectory of the entire show.
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So, but now that I stand in arguably a better place, and I think that the fruits that this
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So now that I'm in this place where I'm happy with what we're doing, I look back at that
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and I go like, yeah, man, that was some shit we had to go through.
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There was no way we were fighting a bit of a war there.
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The, the, this show, Dangerous Retards, that we were doing was like part of this.
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This was the, uh, this was the explanation of what happened after we lost the venue.
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I mean, it's, you know, cameras, but it functions.
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Um, but we edited it out, edited it out of this, uh, clip because I didn't want to put
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If you guys are ever interested and you're like to understand the fallout between me,
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Clint, I guess it's specifically just me and Clint, man.
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I don't know what he looks like now, but he was looking.
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I was like, how about you just get rid of the double chin?
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So over here, I mean, Al was actually in the room, our, our videographer, because we did
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We came from, uh, the venue and then recorded this right after.
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So like, if there's ever any doubt as to what happened, you can just go back and watch
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Um, we called the owner of pretty much the entire town.
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It was really crazy that we were engaged in, uh, a real, he looks like a walrus disguised
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So, so yeah, man, um, I think there's, there's no way to really emphasize, uh, how much of
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We found ourselves in like a philosophical censorship, you know, sort of, um, battle war.
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And we were for that period of time, I think some of the loudest voices in that conversation.
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Um, I would say after that entire event and, uh, uh, there he is.
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And then, yeah, then that all leads to, uh, the fall of tower gang, which, you know, feels
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It was just fucking six, six months ago, six, seven months ago.
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But really what seems like the beginning, I think somebody got assassinated.
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Uh, well, let's go through a little bit of the, the comments here on, on Patreon.
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Nasty was a nice thing to come out of, uh, 2025.
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And I, and I think that that really was Matt finding this really fantastic way to brand
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exactly the character that I've always been, exactly what you've always been, but specifically
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It's much more, uh, it's, it's much worse than top lobster.
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Uh, uh, Joey on Patreon says, I know it's recent, but the end of Graves disease bit specifically
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That was a, I guess we could talk about that a little bit.
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Cause, uh, that was a return to comedy for us in a way, which is nice.
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Well, yeah, we should put a little pin in that because also because of those guys, we
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got to make an appearance that almost felt entirely meaningless on Alex Stein's show,
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which, you know, we were on, uh, thanks to, uh, Brad, uh, of, of hidden in plain sight.
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And, um, and it was kind of a little bit of a strange experience.
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It's just, um, I'm trying to go through the episodes.
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He's going to tell us about why this is the last Pope.
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Uh, he asked me to edit out part of the episode where I was talking about on the White House
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Um, never spoke to him again, but this episode sticks out for me because I was late to this
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You started it without me, which never happens.
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Um, because I was checking out the venue for Bohemian Grove.
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This is when, this is like when these things were all coming into place.
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So three months in advance, I was nailing this down.
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And then I ended up shooting back just in time.
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But we had, we're like, I remember this episode because I was like, okay, we're going to be
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building something really cool in this specific area.
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And, and that's the same month that I moved here.
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So I moved my whole life out of the hood, finally liberated myself, uh, from, you know,
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the, the, the shithole that I was in the converted motel, uh, that I lived in and moved
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I mean, just in, in, within the context of like building a studio, running a show, moving
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your life, uh, getting ready for Bohemian Grove, checking out venues, engaging in this
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gigantic, you know, battle on X, uh, having these, these shows fall apart, adding shows,
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What a chaotic time that those few months were like, uh, March, April, May, June, just
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Um, a lot of, yeah, a lot of like starting and stopping.
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Like, I felt like, all right, we're going to, we're like, we're doing stuff and then we
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So at that time you moved here, Clint moves here shortly after and like, it feels like
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everything is about, Oh, Neff to America with messages from mom.
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Um, but yeah, I mean, Clint moves all the way from Miami to a fucking broom closet.
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Like I understand, um, a lot of his, his resentment.
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Cause it was like, you know, I moved to a nice little apartment with high ceilings and
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you know, it's a two bedroom and it's a cute place.
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This is, this is a guy who's a millionaire who, if you want to live, I mean, to be honest,
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Well, uh, you know, I think what he did want to do was like convenience live across the
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If it wasn't a shithole, you live across the street from your studio.
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You live next door to the theater that you're supposed to be doing live events at like,
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It just all ended up not fucking going that way.
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You know, the thing is though, when life doesn't go the way you think it goes, do you just like
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pull the plug or do you remain steadfast and look and wait for the dust to clear and see
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So I, I, I will always say, I understand the frustrations that he was going.
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A dude didn't even have a fucking, uh, a washer dryer.
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He's never had to wash his laundry among black people.
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But again, it's like, you're doing this to yourself though.
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This is like me going to Jamaica and then being like, like, you know, like, yeah, like
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But like, you've got a wife and kids and a mortgage and I've got a wife and kid and,
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He's a single bachelor who's a millionaire who gives a shit what falls apart.
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Like, but it did seem like he took it the hardest, which is, you know, whatever.
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I'm sure that our perspectives are, are biased.
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Um, but I didn't have an opportunity or, or I didn't have the ability to fall apart.
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But I literally had to dig my heels in and go, okay, I suppose it was, it was that it
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was the way, I think it was the way out because, um, what happened was, is like, I think the
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disagreement was like, I told him, you're just not going to talk to me like that.
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You're not like, I've, I've done everything here.
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What was an apology is what you were looking for.
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You were saying, Hey man, like, or you don't characterize this shit.
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Not just, I don't care about an apology because most, most of the time people don't mean it,
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but I'm like, you're not going to fucking like going forward.
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Like I did all this and that's like, and then that, but that, that becomes like this
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weird spiral of like me, me, me, which I, in a sense is correct.
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Like, yeah, I can't let people take advantage of me because I did do all this, but then you
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You can't do things and then go, Oh me, like, you know, I'm the guy.
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I don't want to do that, but I also can't let you run, run me over like that.
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So I was like, Hey, realistically, what happened here is you packed up a truck full of stuff,
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which is really just like your kitchen table that you had boxes on top of.
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And then you moved over here for an opportunity that would have been worthwhile when it dropped
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I mean, I'm going to blame Owen Benjamin for something that he did, you know, 10 years
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And unfortunately he's like, listen, maybe it could have been my fault for not vetting the
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place properly, but I know the guy who owns the town.
00:38:33.740
Like the ultimate in is the dude that owns 50% of main street or more.
00:38:41.840
He's fans of, he was a fan of like the things that I worked for.
00:38:52.840
Some, some red lights were like, this guy's clearly gay.
00:39:00.960
As a matter of fact, like a venue that is a possibility to us for Bohemian Grove now is another
00:39:06.320
theater that is, but it's like 40 minutes away.
00:39:09.220
And I looked on their Facebook page and they, they have like a gay overlay over their logo.
00:39:18.820
Uh, is, is retarded, but not the way we like it.
00:39:34.040
And what we're doing now, I think is probably more offensive to them.
00:39:37.600
Well, that's the thing is what fell apart had to have fallen apart because we couldn't
00:39:47.680
I don't think we would have made that move or maybe we would have, I don't know.
00:39:50.880
I mean, I know there was a time where it seemed like he was coming to, you know, believe
00:39:58.280
And, you know, he's leaning towards Christianity.
00:40:01.680
But I just think that a time came for us to make a definitive step towards Christ.
00:40:12.600
Actually, this is a, an astute observation here by somebody named Joshua.
00:40:26.820
Tower Gang will record a reunion episode, but Top Lobster will not join them.
00:40:42.340
It's one of these things where it's like, yeah, I can't, I can't go back.
00:40:45.600
Even though I love those guys, I just, I can't, I can't do that, that thing again.
00:40:53.620
You know, somebody said, you know, one of their favorite things was what, you know, when I would
00:40:58.980
show up either like with the do rag or whatever, or, you know, after MMA practice and it was
00:41:03.400
like, yeah, dude, I, I looked forward to those times where I was invited on the show.
00:41:06.660
I'd come back and I'd be like, yeah, I'll be on after this.
00:41:09.760
And then I'd get myself a beer and we would just, you know, have a shit ton of fun.
00:41:14.940
But, um, like I said before, the fruits of what we're doing right now are definitively
00:41:23.480
And the fruits of what we were doing there were murky.
00:41:28.100
You know, it wasn't like we were setting out to be evil, but it was like, and some people
00:41:34.340
Some people even said it got them through hard times, but then everybody else would also
00:41:37.820
say like, yeah, I would be smoking and drinking every Wednesday night doing the same.
00:41:47.460
And that, that is, you know, maybe somebody different wouldn't overthink it, but I would
00:41:55.060
And it was like, the momentum would keep us going.
00:41:57.140
Like we're doing this thing, but I would stop every once in a while.
00:41:59.260
And I'm like, is this, I have my foot in one arena and in another arena.
00:42:06.680
We still laugh our ass off on this show, but it's not like, you know, overtly, um,
00:42:16.220
That was really a lot of it was like, I think it was the overt sexual nature of everything
00:42:28.840
I mean, I would show sometimes, uh, videos of, uh, people breastfeeding just cause I thought
00:42:33.680
it was hilarious because like, we're getting like banned on YouTube and like, there's this
00:42:39.060
lady who's clearly doing this for sexual purposes.
00:42:49.840
I talked about it on, uh, the Raven's watch and, um, or not the Raven's watch to the
00:42:54.920
And, uh, that was, that was a lot of fun, but yeah, that is definitely a newer one.
00:42:58.260
Uh, Chad says, Oh, and Benjamin and Sam Tripoli at, at Bohemian Grove.
00:43:02.080
I mean, I forgot that that like, uh, was even a big deal because there was a mending of the,
00:43:09.480
But for us, it was, uh, for me, I was like, so you're talking about Bohemian Grove and
00:43:14.660
how, when you were doing it, you were performing and you were like caught up in it.
00:43:18.260
And for me, it was just like, it was a, a sterile task.
00:43:23.460
Like my only real performance was with Sam Tripoli and I was able to kind of like ease
00:43:29.240
Then after that I was like, we're just working.
00:43:36.280
I think like a six, seven, eight, nine hard R's.
00:43:46.560
And he was like, this is what, this is what is happening in this place.
00:43:51.820
And we're like, okay, okay, we're going to follow you.
00:43:59.260
So that was like Bohemian Grove was that thing, but I was like working through it.
00:44:03.400
And so it was hard for me to like, understand what it was until after.
00:44:09.160
And then I was like, oh yeah, that's what that was.
00:44:14.380
We, I do think we captured something really wild there.
00:44:24.580
So none of the footage will ever see the light of day.
00:44:27.140
Um, and I'm almost like, is that, maybe that's the point.
00:44:32.180
If you were fucking there, yeah, if you were there, you could buy it on VHS.
00:44:43.440
And as far as a show goes, I think we did a damn good job.
00:44:47.660
I think the order of the show could have, like, I think Sam was right.
00:44:50.640
It could have, uh, we should have headlined the show.
00:44:53.260
Um, we set up cult of conspiracy for failure a bit.
00:45:00.100
I didn't want to like, but, but they went after us and I guess people were there to
00:45:04.000
see Nephilim death squad and not like a round table.
00:45:08.280
So when the round table went, people were kind of uninterested.
00:45:11.120
They were buzzing around and then, you know, we should have went, we should have went last
00:45:15.240
or I don't know before the standup or after I don't need it.
00:45:20.280
So, um, I mean, whatever the, the order of events should have been, uh, whatever could
00:45:26.060
There's no sense in, you know, really focusing on that.
00:45:30.080
And even still with all of its imperfections, which there was numerous, it was something
00:45:37.120
I mean, people were coming up to us and saying like, what you guys have pulled off here.
00:45:42.220
Like, I remember Lauren Witzke pulling me to the side and she's like, holy shit, dude.
00:45:45.180
And I was like, I don't know what the fuck's going on.
00:45:48.960
I just know we have like this really, for, for me, it was a weird dynamic.
00:45:54.400
We had friends of the show, meaning like listeners, especially like the VIP front row is like all
00:46:00.920
the faces that we know, the people that were in the chat all the time.
00:46:06.900
And then as far as the performers go, there are friends who we've worked alongside.
00:46:12.220
And then a lot of our friends that we've looked up to and have been inspired by.
00:46:15.720
So in that way, it was like, what a, what a special, uh, it was almost like, who are
00:46:29.220
Not just like, who are we like, look how cool this is.
00:46:31.360
Who are we to get to have these people in the same room as us?
00:46:33.880
These people who inspired us, who we worked with, the people who have supported us, who
00:46:39.700
Who are we to be, uh, um, surrounding ourselves with these people right now?
00:46:43.840
And that's why I put like, we put Nephilim death squad, um, second.
00:46:51.600
Cause we were like, yeah, who the fuck I'm going to, I'm going to headline for Sam Tripoli
00:46:55.800
or Elijah Schaefer or Jake Shields is like, no, it doesn't make any sense.
00:47:04.560
And then we're paying respect to like a podcast who is bigger than us.
00:47:09.760
So like, all right, they're going to go next and they're going to lead up to, we had Brad
00:47:18.760
I was watching, um, righteous gemstones and he was on the show, righteous gemstones on
00:47:26.360
And I'm looking at this guy and I go, I know this fucking familiar, weird energy, bizarre
00:47:31.640
guy, but I'm looking at him and go, I'm pretty sure that's the fucking Trump impersonator.
00:47:35.400
And I went, it was hard to find him cause he's like very obscure, but I did find that
00:47:40.780
But yeah, man, I mean, even the magic of what happened on that stage, you have those
00:47:44.900
guys, uh, Cashman, Elijah Schaefer, Jake Shields.
00:47:48.760
Um, you know, I don't think Binkley was up there, but it was like, I went over and it
00:47:54.220
was like the towers moment when, when the towers got struck and they went over to, uh, George
00:48:00.080
And whispered in his ear, I go up and whisper in, in Cashman's ear that like Israel just
00:48:10.020
And then the news broke on the stage and then the Trump impersonator gets up to read Trump's
00:48:23.200
And it's, it, what's really weird is when it's over, you know, you're there in a working
00:48:29.760
So it's just like, all right, onto the next thing, onto the next thing.
00:48:33.160
Now we got to go to this VIP dinner, which by the way, was really cool.
00:48:36.540
The VIP dinner with all the people who support us, just being able to hang out there, eat,
00:48:41.440
have some drinks and like, end the night that way was really dope.
00:48:49.280
And all of the months of preparation and the stress, I mean, like it's done.
00:48:55.620
And you're just standing there like, Holy crap, dude.
00:49:00.300
You know, you're like, you don't almost don't even know what to do with yourself after that,
00:49:14.620
This is, uh, these guys on the stage, this is their little reunion.
00:49:19.640
So we got to join them and I mean, just that is like, you know, this was another one though.
00:49:27.520
I think I gave the mic to Shane Cashman or something like that.
00:49:34.980
Um, it's, it's, it was a, it was a real weird moment.
00:49:55.040
Me and my cousin Gabe, uh, hung that up and, um, just a table arrangement.
00:50:00.020
Like everything was like, I actually made that table.
00:50:04.500
I cut that table out of wood and then we did some weird stuff for it, but it's like,
00:50:11.740
I mean, I know what, that's kind of what the episode was about, but Chuck from Guam said,
00:50:15.740
Like, yeah, dude, look, these people, um, they are actual towns.
00:50:20.780
We've met a lot of people in this space that are unremarkable.
00:50:23.320
Those guys that were on that stage are not those people, but they're not, honestly, I'm
00:50:32.640
We've, we've seen a ton of unremarkable people that are, you know, as high of a caliber as
00:50:39.740
an entertainer or whatever, have the clout that those guys have and don't deserve it.
00:50:45.240
And I'm not saying that we deserve what they have.
00:50:47.700
I'm saying when we're up there talking to them, it feels like talking to friends.
00:50:53.620
It doesn't feel like I'm in the presence of somebody who's better than me.
00:51:00.640
Keep in pace with some of the heaviest hitters in our space.
00:51:04.780
And, and, and at the end of the day, dude, it was Nephilim death squad presents Bohemian
00:51:09.220
It's still going to be Nephilim death squad presents Bohemian Grove.
00:51:12.140
I'm glad that we did it the way that we did it these first few times.
00:51:16.900
And we got a spotlight on it and people know what it is and people want to be a part of
00:51:21.780
But from here on out, it's, it's definitively ours.
00:51:27.620
It does make me sad because like, you're looking at like what it was.
00:51:31.880
Here's a, this is afterward when freaking Elijah Schaefer comes up.
00:51:38.660
But these guys like, like Jose and Clint decided to, I don't know, just exclude themselves
00:51:48.280
And it's like, man, why'd you do, who cares about like what you can gain
00:51:57.380
What about like hanging out and doing that thing, doing the thing?
00:52:06.600
I think the point is, um, yeah, I don't want to top that.
00:52:11.200
That was something that will never happen again.
00:52:19.320
I think from here on out, it's really about like fellowship and God.
00:52:22.840
Like we can still, you know, have fun and make jokes and all this shit.
00:52:27.480
But like, it's about this thing, this thing that God let us build.
00:52:32.780
And, and if we're going to build a whole show around at a live event, it should just be this
00:52:39.540
Not like, you know, I I've been talking about a little bit that we were going to have like
00:52:44.140
Sam Hyde, Sam Hyde's never even been on the show.
00:52:48.440
Why are we thinking through the lens of like, what big comedian can we get to put this thing
00:52:53.520
Um, no, let's, let's have the, like, let's have the Ed Mabry's and the Laura Baker's
00:52:59.540
and like, let's have the people who are friends of the show who have made, I would love to
00:53:03.440
have like a Vicki Joy Anderson or, you know, even one day if we can get, uh, Tony to a
00:53:13.980
I mean, you know, donut and, and, and Thomas, the paranoid American messaged me last night.
00:53:28.720
Honestly, to, I was thinking about like, do we just pre-record like that?
00:53:34.900
I, I, I dream of the day one day where we don't have to.
00:53:37.880
Where we don't have to release five episodes a fucking week.
00:53:53.380
These are the guys that I, I want to be a part of this thing.
00:53:59.720
I think that's what was the point of these first few was like, we got to get this bitch
00:54:03.640
Or at least, I don't know if it was the point, but in hindsight, it's certainly what happened.
00:54:09.100
Oh, also honorary mention, a huge shout out to, uh, to Tyler, Tyler, the lawyer.
00:54:16.580
If he's, if he's not there, he flies out from California to help us do this.
00:54:21.240
He wasn't going to come, but when all this shit fell apart, he flew out and he ran, uh,
00:54:26.140
he's running the AV and he's also running the live stream for this show.
00:54:31.580
So a lot of what you're seeing and what's happening in the audio cues and shit like
00:54:40.600
That guy is the man that he came out there and he did that for us for two days.
00:54:48.620
I just want, I want it to be, you know, I want Chaney, uh, to, to show up.
00:54:52.600
I just want the people who have been on this show who we consider friends.
00:54:58.460
Um, we talked to Danny of the rabbit hole podcast yesterday.
00:55:03.280
I don't think we need like, you know, Sam and Owen are an exception because Owen's been
00:55:10.500
Like they are friends of the show, but as far as like comedians go, I think the buck
00:55:16.580
Like those two dudes are special to what we do.
00:55:19.340
So I could see them making appearances in the future.
00:55:22.040
Honestly, I kind of want to give this next one a crack with just like not some heavy hitting
00:55:30.640
I'm just trying to draw some delineation that this isn't an, an Owen Benjamin shout out
00:55:36.980
This isn't an Owen Benjamin, Sam Tripoli event.
00:55:41.840
And I think it's about time that we, we make that apparent.
00:55:45.020
And then in the future, we'll open that up again and we'll have those guys on because
00:55:47.880
they're always going to be a part of what we do without guys like Owen Benjamin, without
00:55:54.020
Um, you know, those are dudes that really laid the path for this show and, and a, and a gang
00:56:03.060
Um, but you know, I think it's time to start ironing out what this is.
00:56:08.860
And then revisit once we've established what it is, then we revisit it and we have these
00:56:12.720
people on, but you know, you understand the terms.
00:56:15.440
Um, so yeah, as we're, as we're leading up to Brohimi and Grove, I'm looking at some of
00:56:21.600
We, we get on the, the telepathy tapes, which was, I think that was a big deal for the show
00:56:33.000
That was, and the way that that came about was just like, it just was a feeling.
00:56:37.900
And then like Clint told us about it and he kept bragging about it.
00:56:40.940
But since he's a boomer, we didn't listen to it.
00:56:43.460
But I remember hitting you up one day and being like, there's something here.
00:56:45.940
And then I think it was you that was like, dude, this, um, this guy popped up again.
00:56:55.780
And, and you had noticed that he came up in like two prior shows.
00:56:59.380
Like there was this mention, you know, in one show and they're like, oh, interesting
00:57:03.880
Then somebody else came on totally different context, mentioned him again.
00:57:09.400
And then you're going through the telepathy tapes and you heard this lady mentioned Puharic
00:57:16.820
And then from then on, it felt like all the details just fell into our lap.
00:57:22.360
And that this, this sort of comes together in a weird way.
00:57:25.620
Again, I, we're not in the place where our work can even be explored because our cat,
00:57:33.000
So I guess when we're, when we're doing stuff, people aren't really taking it serious.
00:57:38.560
But that was, I think that was a very serious moment.
00:57:42.240
Kind of gets overlooked by some other stuff, you know?
00:57:45.540
Um, that was one of those things that I'm happy we put out a body of work on that.
00:57:52.220
Because in totality, it's two dedicated episodes plus a third with Joe and Franco plus, you
00:57:58.660
know, several episodes of exploration with different people.
00:58:01.380
Like, uh, we had, what's his name from, um, uh, raised by giants.
00:58:10.860
Um, but we had explored a bunch of this with him and there were a bunch of people that we
00:58:17.400
had on and they would like help confirm the details.
00:58:21.160
We would show them how the whole thing kind of snapped together and they'd be like, holy
00:58:27.180
But yeah, I mean, that was, um, I don't think that was anybody's fault, you know, that we're
00:58:36.120
So, so nobody really took that too seriously because we previously had been presenting much
00:58:41.440
It was just all the, something, something caught our attention and it was like, whoa, wait
00:58:47.480
And so we kind of bit down and got serious about it.
00:58:50.500
Um, but yeah, that was definitely a big moment.
00:58:55.460
Uh, Victoria Willis in the chat said watching and hearing Raven's Holy spirit led conviction,
00:59:04.320
Make it right with Liberty lockdown after the falling out.
00:59:07.060
That was a weird moment that came because of that dream, that dream of like meeting,
00:59:17.660
Um, but I had that, that dream about being on a, on a boat with like, Oh yeah.
00:59:24.820
And, and that I re I knew that if I shared in that spirit, I'd go into the abyss with
00:59:29.200
him and that he was making an effort to take people in there with him.
00:59:32.780
It was a challenging time, man, because we were vindicated.
00:59:37.540
Like we were correct in standing our ground, drawing the line, you know, and, and taking
00:59:45.020
Um, but in that vindication, you then feel justified in like sharing in this spirit of
01:00:00.380
So before Bohemian Grove, you remember this episode?
01:00:09.280
But this was a great conversation and I had said something here and then it came to fruition
01:00:23.340
And so it's horrible what's happened here because no matter how much I said, no, it
01:00:30.800
And it, but it's not predetermined, but it's just like, we're going this way.
01:00:34.180
So yeah, that, that death of whatever this guy is, Top Lobster is evident.
01:00:38.700
I'm sorry, people, you're watching it, but, uh, we'll see when it happens.
01:00:45.580
So that was, that was recorded in late, probably late April.
01:00:50.580
You started to, I remember you expressing that to me.
01:00:53.040
Several times and expressing it on the show in May, April or May.
01:00:57.260
That, that this, this character of Top Lobster had served you to a certain point, but it's
01:01:05.400
And this, we're still doing our Bohemian Grove thing.
01:01:07.900
Like in the beginning of this episode, there's an ad for it.
01:01:16.720
And I'm just like, yeah, this is going to happen.
01:01:18.520
And I'm like, I, I kind of say that I'm dreading it, uh, because it's like, it's just one of
01:01:28.680
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I know, but I don't want to, but I know.
01:01:34.380
You know, when we first started doing this and even before that, because I had, I was
01:01:41.200
doing the show, the Raven's watch and you know, I had had this experience.
01:01:46.340
It's, I think the whole, the whole, the whole thing can be summarized as like, I have a
01:01:52.420
I start listening to podcasts about supernatural experiences.
01:01:59.340
And then around the same time that I'm immersed in that, I get on Twitter and I have it out
01:02:04.620
with Gary, the numbers guy, which convicts me to make a show because Gary, the numbers
01:02:08.780
guy is a fat faggot who wants you to pay thousands of dollars for his secret esoteric
01:02:13.860
information and his courses, it's like a pyramid scheme.
01:02:17.260
And I go, no, whoa, dude, what the, what is that?
01:02:26.400
Um, so, so I decide that I'm going to make this show.
01:02:31.700
I'm going to learn what I can and I'm going to give it away.
01:02:36.340
Um, and, um, during this time I start really facing towards Christianity, like, okay, this
01:02:49.280
And I used to dread this idea that it was almost inevitable that I would kind of become
01:02:57.480
Well, it's not just that this it's, I didn't like it.
01:03:02.720
I didn't like the idea and I like, I, I kind of saw it as a thing that would come to pass.
01:03:08.380
Well, because, you know, I think what I was explaining in this clip is like the same sentiment
01:03:15.880
Like you just don't do, you don't do both things.
01:03:19.780
You can't, it's interesting because today we're, or Friday, they're releasing this Christian
01:03:25.160
nationalism discussion with Nick Fuentes and that guy, Joel, uh, Webin, who's like this
01:03:30.200
preacher and it's like, I don't, you just can't do both of those things, but Hey, maybe
01:03:35.280
I'm a hypocrite because we're still doing like some form of comedy in a way that it's
01:03:40.480
yeah, but I don't think that the comedy that we're doing now is, um, you know, you were,
01:03:46.800
well, I guess we do threaten to kill people and blue letter Bible, Timothy Alvarino.
01:04:00.100
And, but I think it was like the Holy spirit was already kind of whispering to me at the
01:04:05.100
time that this was a thing that was going to come to pass.
01:04:07.440
And even though it, it made me a little afraid, I almost kind of dreaded it.
01:04:13.120
What I didn't account for is like God's patience and that this thing would happen in its time
01:04:20.260
and it would happen in a manageable way for me all at once.
01:04:26.480
Well, I mean, it's all at once or else in some, that's what you fear, right?
01:04:30.420
You fear that it's going to be like this moment that happens in one day on a show.
01:04:37.400
It's like, no dude, you will be shedding these pieces of yourself.
01:04:41.720
And look, even though it did happen over the course of like, I guess what would be a few
01:04:45.680
months, like two weeks or three weeks or something like that was like two months.
01:04:58.300
I just need the sun to be out when I do it, but go on.
01:05:12.680
I've spoken with Jose since after we're amicable.
01:05:18.660
Um, speech impediment, speech impediment being one, uh, very short.
01:05:34.560
Um, he was like, yeah, you guys went Christian.
01:05:37.180
And I was like, you didn't, and I didn't, I didn't bring it up to him, but I was like,
01:05:43.040
Like, you think that like we went, like something went wrong and then we went Christian.
01:06:01.320
It's when it like, don't it's, it's with Vicki Joy Anderson.
01:06:12.580
We're blessed for the people who, uh, were graceful with us and had patience with us who
01:06:20.120
came on our show, even though we were, um, and still are in very many ways, but much
01:06:29.620
Like a Vicki Joy Anderson who repeatedly shows up and says things like, you remind me of hanging
01:06:37.440
Or like an Ed Mabry where he's with us from virtually the beginning.
01:06:42.120
And then he's even faced with proclamations from his own Patreon chat where they're like,
01:06:58.660
Could have easily just backed away from us and been like, not touching that plenty of
01:07:06.900
So rightfully, so did they back away from us and go like, not touching that.
01:07:12.360
With a 10 foot pole, but there were so many people who are genuine good guys and who
01:07:27.640
And she had brought something up and I was like, oh shit.
01:07:30.340
Like this kind of like brought, brought back those memories of like the whole witchcraft
01:07:35.300
This is, this starts to like, this is what really, uh, drives the journey.
01:07:50.160
We thought about like doing an episode, but like Jose and Clint aren't going to be there.
01:07:55.120
But the other guys were like ready to, they're like, yeah, let's do something.
01:08:00.180
I still feel bad because you know, the way Toad suffers, I guess you could say that for
01:08:06.720
tower gang ending and then how the content game loses coal.
01:08:12.600
I mean, he, he messaged me the other day and he was like, he's like, man, sometimes I just
01:08:17.160
And I'm like, don't, don't even, I, I don't know if that fight is necessary.
01:08:27.620
He sent me the, the hail Hitler episode, which is a banger.
01:08:36.460
We're going to, let's watch like a minute of it.
01:08:38.980
Cause it, you want to talk about like memory lane.
01:09:10.800
It's through that chat, video chat, whatever thing that's going on.
01:09:16.120
I saw Nancy earlier said that the end of, uh, um, TLC was, was a big transformative moment
01:09:38.900
I don't know why that, why would the other things work?
01:09:49.300
Um, but yeah, I mean, it's classic toad stuff, classic toad, not understanding the, um, banter
01:09:56.740
beating them up and then just intro music into, into like more like two hours
01:10:08.840
There was just so many times where like toad doing classic, like, uh, what's the word?
01:10:25.740
It was honestly something that I really looked forward to Wednesday nights.
01:10:30.500
I would be like on the porch smoking and having a drink, you know, at nine 11.
01:10:40.980
But, uh, when I ended timeline cleanse, I don't know exactly when that show ended and
01:10:47.340
I don't know how much of it had to do with what was going on at bro grove or anything
01:10:51.720
like that as much as it had to do with, um, I found myself actually having my heart hardened.
01:11:00.160
I found myself, um, in, in disgust so often at the things that I was seeing, you know,
01:11:11.640
You can use your imagination five months ago, five months ago.
01:11:15.480
So it would have been, I guess just after, well, I brought it back and I tried to do it in
01:11:20.780
a way where it wasn't like that, but it really ended here, uh, six months ago, a time for
01:11:28.260
Because it ended where, where I was talking about what the hell happened.
01:11:32.020
In fact, the clip went viral of me analyzing the, the tower gang episode and Owen Benjamin
01:11:41.080
And he was like, you know, I think what he saw in that clip was like, oh yeah, this is
01:11:47.080
So he took it and he paraded it around Twitter and then he, you know, dragged Clint's corpse
01:11:54.200
behind his chariot, like, like Achilles, uh, for a time.
01:12:11.700
Um, I think this was the episode here, the death of dangerous retards.
01:12:21.240
I was just kind of breaking down these things in, in real time, but, um, a lot of, a lot
01:12:26.740
of timeline Clint's was just watching horrific videos, man.
01:12:31.820
I remember like one particular genre and you could call it a genre.
01:12:35.660
Cause it was no shortage of this type of video was, you know, it'd be some black lady,
01:12:42.800
Um, she would be, she would be, um, walking past a front porch and she would send her toddler
01:12:51.460
up onto the front porch to steal an Amazon package.
01:13:14.420
You got to get out, get back to the Netflix squad stuff.
01:13:21.640
You forgot day quill was, that was a harrowing time for my family.
01:13:29.320
My family was not, not, not happy about my wife.
01:13:33.860
My wife was, uh, my wife was not happy about the day quill times.
01:13:40.180
Um, I mean, I, maybe there's probably, I don't really see any other way around it though.
01:13:47.700
There was, you just had to, that was another time like toad.
01:13:50.380
And I had warned, I told you, but you, I guess you took it as like a, a, like, all
01:14:14.760
Um, I had told you, I said, Hey, here's how this works.
01:14:20.380
Uh, you're at, it's like, it was like, I sat him down and I was like, so you've gotten
01:14:34.760
I said, what you could do here is like, if you save it to your favorites, it'll give it
01:14:51.140
I was like, I was like, you know, I was like, I don't know what happens here, but this goes
01:15:04.440
And, um, so, but, but, but that's probably a, uh, a story that a lot of people don't
01:15:08.580
I'll give you the thousand foot overview of it because there's, we have a lot of new
01:15:13.160
That's that I have the black Twitter didn't think it was a true story.
01:15:15.800
Um, my son had, uh, once told me that he only had like a couple of friends in school.
01:15:21.080
So one day he, he came out of school and he was a little bit like, you know, just a little
01:15:26.340
bit down in his spirits and I'm driving him home and, and I'm asking him, I said, Hey,
01:15:30.080
you said you only have like two friends, right?
01:15:32.220
And he's like, yeah, and I go, what, what, you know, what's the problem with the other
01:15:36.220
And he goes, ah, they're just kind of assholes.
01:15:37.580
And I have my suspicions about what the nature of these assholes are or is.
01:15:42.080
And so I start asking questions and trying not to lead them, but I go like, whoa, what
01:15:49.240
And he goes like, I don't know, man, like, like regular kids.
01:15:55.340
And I go, um, I don't know, like, what do they wear?
01:15:58.680
You know, like as if that's gonna, and he goes like, I don't know, dad, just like
01:16:28.760
Cause as soon as he says this, I go, there you go.
01:16:45.580
So, so, uh, what ends up happening is we go silence.
01:16:50.480
And, uh, and I'm just driving and I'm thinking, and he goes, uh, I just realized they're all
01:16:56.440
And I go, and I have a reasonable talk with him where I'm like, look, man, there you go.
01:17:07.100
So I, I have this talk with them and I'm just like, look, man, like that's going to be the
01:17:10.920
case, but that doesn't mean that they're all bad.
01:17:12.780
And, and yeah, they're going to like exclude you, but that could also be the case.
01:17:18.560
Yeah, it was a, it was a case for me growing up with all races because I'm a Jewish bioweapon
01:17:23.680
and I'm, uh, didn't fit in any of the white kids or the Spanish kids.
01:17:29.560
The black kids called me Ricky Martin and the Spanish kids wouldn't fuck with me because
01:17:35.540
There was like Uruguayan kids, which is odd, but better get good at baseball, son.
01:17:39.300
So, so what ends up happening is, uh, I go to tweet about it and I, the tweet is just
01:17:44.120
like, dude, you know, my mom dealt with this growing up.
01:17:47.160
I dealt with this growing up and, um, and now my son's dealing with it growing up and
01:17:51.220
it's just like, damn, man, it's like the cycle continues.
01:17:54.520
And so I make a tweet and, and instead of saying the kids names, I tell the story I just
01:17:58.980
told, but I'm not going to say the kids names and, and Shantina is not one of their names
01:18:02.520
I'm just saying that, you know, with the usually, no, hell no.
01:18:08.120
So I make one of the kids names Dayquil as just a throwaway, funny sounding name.
01:18:16.780
I mean, it goes so viral and everybody accuses me of lying.
01:18:21.800
And it's either people accusing me of lying or people being like, dude, the same shit happened
01:18:27.720
to me or the same shit happens to my kid or the same shit happens to my grandkid.
01:18:41.460
My son was telling me how he only has two friends at school.
01:18:44.320
He said, mostly everybody else makes fun of him.
01:18:46.980
I asked him to tell me about the kids who, uh, make fun of them.
01:19:07.760
We have to have a sit down with the sheriff's office.
01:19:17.180
By the way, I will admit when they came for me in the comments, I just swung.
01:19:48.840
I mean, what a crazy, what a crazy year it's been.
01:19:53.120
I mean, we literally had to part of us, like part of moving was like, we have to get out
01:20:00.400
And like I said, I didn't do myself any favors.
01:20:03.880
When they accused me of lying, I doubled down, tripled down and called them slurs.
01:20:11.360
Um, you know, I think I've learned a lot since then.
01:20:24.300
I, yeah, I was a nice, uh, gentle baby boy before this.
01:20:39.520
It's that it was the truth and I'm never going to delete something that was the truth
01:20:52.940
At the end of it, that's kind of what tower gang is about.
01:20:55.680
It's like this operation and absurdity, but it is true.
01:21:03.500
So like the day cool parts exaggerated, uh, it's formatted correctly and it's supposed
01:21:10.220
So if you do all those things and if it's funny, Hey man, stop doing that.
01:21:22.640
And by the way, just so you guys like, you know, they came to my house, they did a walk
01:21:30.500
They're really just, I never dealt with that before.
01:21:33.020
They were looking for like, is there food in the fridge?
01:21:38.800
It's like, I just, there was nothing but empty wrappers of hot dogs.
01:21:46.080
They never came back again, but it was a scary time.
01:21:53.620
He didn't really understand what was going on, but I had to, um, I was caught between a
01:21:59.320
place where a vindication saying like, this is the truth and trying to explain to my
01:22:04.860
wife that my wife, that like, even Selena Gomez, who's never used the N word in her
01:22:11.440
life has to move around with security and that there's going to come a time where we're
01:22:15.660
going to get big enough that there's going to be, we're going to be Selena Gomez.
01:22:21.640
We're going to, yeah, we're going to be Selena Gomez.
01:22:23.260
Um, but all of it was really just me trying to probably justify something that was relatively
01:22:31.240
I mean, at the end of the day, was it the truth?
01:22:57.580
I'm not too sure if I made that word up, Queef Latifah.
01:23:02.000
I thought it was the things that they put on the antennas out here.
01:23:04.580
Your son was aloof to the ethnicity of his, who we thought was his friends.
01:23:11.680
Well, they weren't, he knew they weren't his friends.
01:23:28.440
Honestly, and I hate to give him his flowers because Matthew, Matthew with his several
01:23:44.820
The response of, so here, Qui-Gon Jinn said, getting to know each one of y'all better
01:24:10.600
Well, we thought once upon a time we were going to have a studio above a coffee shop in
01:24:32.480
A lot of people have said they stopped smoking weed and that what I said helped them.
01:24:40.880
Anybody that was inspired to cut back or stop because of me, that's huge.
01:24:48.460
The fact that my dirt brothers and sisters are continuing to build one another up through
01:24:56.740
Uh, so, so yeah, I mean, Matt is, it's a, it's a, one of those things that I can only
01:25:03.540
attribute to God where we had this thing in our spirits that was like, you're going to
01:25:26.000
We were doing a live show at Clint's house, which kind of was like, I don't know, it didn't
01:25:35.660
I was pumped to be doing something IRL, but it wasn't ideal.
01:25:40.180
Cause like afterward, like the show is over and he's sleepy and he's just working like,
01:25:49.420
All of his, he like assembled his own furniture, but he did it backwards.
01:25:52.720
He, Toad is built backwards, but Clint builds backwards.
01:26:03.780
And I go, we go like, well, why don't we just build our own studio?
01:26:08.360
And then we go, well, we know all the mistakes that we made of the shit that we told Clint
01:26:17.960
Um, well, we did it in your place first, which was a great studio.
01:26:21.520
We were going to do it there today, but then we're too lazy to like pack the cameras up.
01:26:38.080
Cause he put it, there was no space and he put it right behind himself and he, and he
01:27:01.120
I mean, when we said Clint moved into a fucking closet, he moved into a closet and we were
01:27:22.480
Uh, that Clint had no room and then we built the studio in your place.
01:27:41.720
Even though it was his kitchen and his dining room, it was smaller than this room.
01:27:48.340
It was not, it was not comfortable and not to knock like what it was.
01:28:11.760
You think that blue is your color and red's my color and blue's my color.
01:28:20.200
Anyway, it's an aggressive dialed it in real nice.
01:28:23.600
Um, so that was a studio there and we're rolling.
01:28:36.920
It was like after everything we went through, we recalibrated and built something good and
01:28:48.660
We got some experience with that, which is really cool.
01:28:51.620
Uh, one day I walk into this shop here because I wanted to get coffee and I didn't want to
01:28:58.160
have, uh, I didn't want to go to the place that threw us out all the way to Leesburg,
01:29:07.020
It's a little closer and it just says coffee shop outside.
01:29:10.240
I was like really bad on like, like the signage, just coffee, strange, not even not branded.
01:29:18.580
I asked him the reasoning and he gave me a reason.
01:29:22.100
He's like, Oh, because you know, is it the villages?
01:29:27.000
And I was like, yeah, but you could just write the standard coffee shop and casino and people
01:29:41.000
Interestingly enough, what you didn't know at the time was that this is the coffee shop
01:29:43.800
that Shane Cashman came to and wrote his jokes for Bohemian Grove in because we put
01:29:49.280
That's something we ever said that on the show.
01:29:53.340
It's, it's, it's kind of a magical thing that Cashman was put up in a hotel nearby for when
01:30:05.280
So that's funny because I was on the phone with him not long ago and he's like, yeah,
01:30:09.560
He's like, I just walked and this is the place I stopped at.
01:30:12.100
I assumed it was closer because he said he walked.
01:30:15.880
If we try to walk there now, first of all, it's cold.
01:30:19.580
You got to go across because it's not the same strip mall.
01:30:33.160
Whichever one is in the villages, Spanish Springs itself.
01:30:37.840
Well, he walks all the way here, decides this is the spot that he wants to come for coffee.
01:30:42.800
Sits at the big black table in the front for a couple of hours.
01:30:50.620
Oh, he would have never made it to Brohimi and Grove.
01:30:52.680
No, Matt would have just been like chatting him up.
01:31:00.140
If you ever come here, Matt's just going to ask you where you're from.
01:31:04.000
Yeah, then he's going to pretend to know something about the place that you're from.
01:31:06.740
And I swear, it's like all he does is lie to me.
01:31:16.960
But Matt wasn't here when I came the first time either.
01:31:22.540
And then he discovers the whole back is a Christian library.
01:31:27.680
He spent all his time here writing these jokes.
01:31:31.620
And he said he was even talking to his wife about how special this place is.
01:32:11.880
What you're saying is Matt has superior business acumen than Clint.
01:32:33.820
He did like investments for people that were already rich.
01:32:39.800
It's more like counting numbers, things like that.
01:32:45.280
I've never seen anybody with as much people skill as Matt.
01:32:48.040
And I've worked a lot of retail and shit like that.
01:32:51.940
I was in, you know, furniture sales and shit like that.
01:33:06.720
Remembers things about everybody who walks through the door.
01:33:12.280
I legitimately, I'm like, I don't want to do that at all.
01:33:14.900
When he was like, we should go to the hood and give some of like these, this food away.
01:33:25.160
I've been out of the hood for long and I'm done.
01:33:27.640
But this is a guy that literally would go there and talk to like, you know, crackheads.
01:33:35.160
Like, I think that's actually an honorable thing.
01:33:42.000
I mean, he's a, he is a dude with actual business acumen.
01:33:49.440
You know, which is another skill that you just can't.
01:33:51.540
The only way you get there is by talking to every single person that walks through that
01:33:58.540
I mean, you walk through one day and I guess the first day he wasn't here, but another time
01:34:06.500
I mean, the library on your first, your first visit?
01:34:13.160
I was just sitting up there and I, Harry gave me coffee.
01:34:20.400
I'm not like a big coffee guy, so I don't know.
01:34:23.820
Like when you taste other coffee, I'm like, yeah, I can't drink other shit anymore.
01:34:27.380
So I was there, but I did notice they had like Christian stuff up front.
01:34:35.580
I'm like, maybe I'll come and check these guys out.
01:34:42.220
I can, we could talk to some people and then interview them there or interview them at the
01:34:46.740
I don't know, something to do, something like community.
01:34:49.380
And so I was like, all right, I'll come back another time.
01:34:53.080
So I come back like in the morning, like real early, drop my wife off, come in the morning
01:34:57.680
and I'm wearing an NDS shirt, the Dragon Ball Z one.
01:35:00.320
I walk in and he's just like, like, you know, making faces and he's like, what do you know
01:35:07.800
And I was like, and I'm always careful with like how I like David, if somebody asked David
01:35:12.240
in the shop, what do you know about the Nephilim?
01:35:14.100
He's like, let me fucking tell you everything I know about the Nephilim.
01:35:16.680
And they ask me, I go, this is a tricky subject.
01:35:21.900
Like, you know, I was like, yeah, what do you know about it?
01:35:26.500
And I'm like, yeah, you know, and he's like, what do you do?
01:35:30.600
He's got to say, yeah, he's got his inquisitive.
01:36:00.620
He's such a he's got such a weird way when he's asking questions.
01:36:05.340
But immediately I realized when I'm talking to him, like, oh, OK, this guy is a guy that
01:36:09.800
I would like to have a conversation with, like on the show.
01:36:13.340
Like I could tell I was like, all right, he'd be a good.
01:36:19.020
There's the way he's passing the way we're having the conversation.
01:36:22.460
And I was like, yeah, you probably make a good guess on the show.
01:36:41.860
And the guy was asking all the wrong questions.
01:36:47.820
I've listened to whatever you showed me, which is a brief clip.
01:36:52.060
It's it's more about like he wanted to interview him about what he built because it's pretty cool.
01:36:57.440
Not just one coffee shop, Christian library, casino, but two at the same time during COVID
01:37:06.180
So the guy's talking to him about it and the Mac goes into a story and I'm listening.
01:37:09.760
I'm like, yo, this shit is like this is an actual story.
01:37:13.660
This is a story that I would like not just like to read on like a episode of Chronicles.
01:37:19.880
He went from like degenerate drug addict loser to coffee shop loser.
01:37:32.700
So I was like, he was like, oh, do you like it?
01:37:43.160
We tried to do it with the, the shore wireless things and we, we did it, but that was like
01:37:52.480
I remember your wife was doing the board and everything and like the camera switching.
01:37:58.260
And I messed up with the audio, um, cause I didn't want to bring all the mics and all
01:38:03.020
the stuff, but, uh, we, that could have been like real professional.
01:38:06.940
I just, I just, uh, one thing, but, uh, it turned out pretty good.
01:38:12.620
And then after that, he was like, that was cool.
01:38:15.300
And I think he like, after that, he probably really wanted to do, he probably, he's probably
01:38:19.940
looking at, at what we did and he, he has this intention in his mind, which he likes
01:38:27.460
He loves to blame us, but that's classic, uh, deflection.
01:38:31.280
And I, I told David this and it took, it took you, I don't even know how long to get.
01:38:38.320
Because you wanted me to go out in person and, and meet people and, and I just wanted
01:38:46.020
And then I said, there's something to do, something to do here.
01:38:49.300
Like, I thought what we could do here is like, maybe he'll let us come and we can film out
01:38:54.600
in front and talk to people that come into the coffee shop.
01:38:57.540
Cause right away I'm like, these people are interesting.
01:39:04.900
You're like, maybe we can, you know, do interviews there.
01:39:09.660
But you, you, what you kept saying is there's something here.
01:39:16.900
My ultimate goal, like with, with here, what I thought we could pull off was, I was like,
01:39:27.380
And I was like, yeah, like, I like to have him on too.
01:39:30.600
We do, we started the Bible studies and I was like, we can probably like let, he'll probably
01:39:34.840
let us set up a table in the front and we could just do like man on the street.
01:39:39.360
I remember that as people come, I was like, that's what I thought was cool.
01:39:43.740
Bring a camera, bring like a little thing, move back and forth.
01:39:51.820
I mean, I wouldn't have been so presumptuous to imagine that we could have ever done this
01:39:57.900
year, but no, cause as soon as I talked to him, I could feel that that's exactly what
01:40:06.720
And I, and, and, and you, you were cautious about it.
01:40:10.540
You're like, you know, I don't want to be, I don't want to assume this or whatever.
01:40:18.660
And, and it's like, you fall into that thing with Clint where Clint was very happy doing
01:40:28.120
And like when we were talking about moving it or like putting a studio, it just wasn't
01:40:32.840
You could always use a, always like, cause like he can wake up and go to sleep in the
01:40:41.520
He would, he would sleep on the bench on the table.
01:40:47.540
Remember that too, by the way, we woke him up a few times.
01:40:49.980
There was sometimes we were waiting for him and we're like, what is going on?
01:41:00.800
Not show up and like, did it is today the day he quits.
01:41:03.280
And then what was, what was a bummer about it was like, damn dude.
01:41:08.220
The ability to do the show is, is all hinging on this sleepy motherfucker.
01:41:18.180
Um, that was like, that was like, I don't have a lot of actual negative things to say,
01:41:25.620
Cause it's like, I recognize a lot of it was just a weird circumstance that drove us apart.
01:41:29.380
And it was like wires getting crossed and like, whatever, maybe you could say he's kind of douche for not seeing that too.
01:41:37.760
That actually reminds me that what we were talking about with, uh, Vicki Joy Anderson.
01:41:44.080
As long as the sun's still up to 14, they got, they got some hours.
01:41:53.680
Vicki Joy Anderson said something that triggered a thought in my head.
01:41:58.720
I don't know exactly where in the transcript it is.
01:42:06.200
Cause now we're talking about sleepy, like being sleepy.
01:42:11.700
And that's important because from there I start to get to spit.
01:42:16.480
I think I go a little bit like I'm, I'm like freaked out.
01:42:19.800
I remember that you were legitimately freaked out.
01:42:23.900
I remember looking at you getting freaked out and you're like, I'm going to talk to him.
01:42:28.720
For whatever reason, I felt like the Holy Spirit.
01:42:30.600
And I still think I, I believe I was supposed to talk to him.
01:42:35.020
I suffered some fucking spiritual consequences for that.
01:42:39.620
I didn't, but like, yeah, dude, I, I had some shit put on me for disobedience for not doing
01:42:48.880
I could hear like when you were saying it, as you were talking about, like, I'm not sure
01:42:57.140
And like, it doesn't fucking matter what he says.
01:43:04.220
Um, maybe the whole thing was a delusion, but I don't know.
01:43:09.720
I was not trying to get some dirty panties in my house.
01:43:14.440
I was supposed to show up to his house with some sort of like dirty panties, dirty panties
01:43:20.820
in hand, no, like a peace offering, like a, like a, something to break bread with, you
01:43:26.780
Um, and then whatever happened, it was like, who, he knows who might not even accept it.
01:43:31.560
And I would go there and, and then, and then I would immediately get an answer of like,
01:43:40.460
You know, it doesn't matter if he's, if he accepts, it doesn't matter if it blows up in
01:43:43.520
your face, doesn't matter if he calls you a faggot, doesn't matter if he punches you
01:43:50.760
So, uh, I won't be making that mistake again, but yeah.
01:43:58.340
It reminds me of all of the panties, the dirty panties, and then all of the trauma and
01:44:04.480
horror that pursued months after that, which is why I was like, yo, dude, I was like, if
01:44:10.520
that's like what's going on here, I was like, don't even.
01:44:17.320
You don't have $20,000 to spend getting your wife healthy from like almost death.
01:44:27.520
But I think this is one of those things where it was like, there are things that you know,
01:44:31.260
and there are things that are in the spirit and the things that are in the spirit don't
01:44:41.000
We were talking about this stuff, but I wasn't understanding it, even though we've talked
01:44:47.900
I'm still like not understanding it in a tangible way.
01:44:53.380
It's more of like a, I understand the theory behind it, right?
01:44:56.760
We talk about this a lot, but now it's happening.
01:45:08.560
It was like, this isn't what you're not supposed to be yoked with this.
01:45:13.660
I don't know if he's in the chat right now, but Scott sent me a verse from Corinthians
01:45:18.400
that talked about being yoked with nonbelievers.
01:45:27.480
And when that happened, I was able to just let it go.
01:45:31.500
Just let it go and be like, oh yeah, this, this makes sense.
01:45:38.820
And then we actually do the gayest thing possible.
01:45:48.080
But I had like legit questions like, yo, what the fuck?
01:45:50.160
And he was probably like, these guys are crazy.
01:46:08.560
So that's what, I don't think he, he like, he was like, yeah.
01:46:23.020
But the fact that we started the year on Skype or, or, or StreamYard, meaning like,
01:46:30.560
you know, separate from each other and then transitioned into a studio before commandeering
01:46:35.360
a coffee shop, Christian library, casino, and colonizing it with podcast studios, a truly
01:46:44.260
Weird, a weird, you know, the, the, the sort of beefs were funny too.
01:46:51.880
I don't know if Steven was this year or last year.
01:46:55.500
Steven and the moon map might've been the beginning of the year.
01:46:58.520
And then it ends with tell me Timothy Alvacore tuna melt.
01:47:02.080
And I, I, it's, it's funny because what I will say is these things, these bits that come
01:47:10.760
I mean, think about all the comedy that does come from, it's not a comedy show, right?
01:47:13.520
But like all of like the black, black, black, and the Timothy Alvacore, you know, the Indiana
01:47:21.100
It's so hard to quantify it because it happens in real time.
01:47:54.580
The things that happen here, the things that become lore on this show are so beyond our control.
01:48:11.720
Like if somebody were to ask us that, are you having fun?
01:48:14.480
And you went back and looked at all of the inside jokes of this show.
01:48:24.360
I mean, I think that is a great indicator that we are having fun, that the show is alive.
01:48:30.740
It's like, there's just a never ending stream of, of, uh, of inside jokes.
01:48:36.100
And the things that become inside jokes are most of the time meaningless.
01:48:43.940
Uh, and they're never, they, they're never deep.
01:48:47.300
Like if you were like, what's Guaman and Blapping?
01:48:54.220
Like some dumbass from Guam gave Blue Letter Bible a hundred million dollars.
01:49:04.540
I really liked the, the, this is another thing.
01:49:12.100
No, I mean, because no, David, David's allowed to, I'm nasty.
01:49:16.980
But David's allowed to go, we're going to do this Blue Letter Bible, pull his gun,
01:49:22.100
When I threaten the lives of everybody at Blue Letter Bible, I do it with youthful exuberance.
01:49:26.960
And Matt looks at you and he goes, Matt goes, just like Uncle Bob or whatever.
01:49:30.880
And then when I go, I go like this, I go, Jake from Blue Letter Bible is calling me.
01:49:41.440
And I think the chat will agree with me on this.
01:49:44.300
When I, when I threatened the life of another human being.
01:49:48.960
There's people that went there to the parking lot.
01:49:52.540
But when you get upset about a thing, there is fire in your eyes.
01:50:11.640
Because you look like a man who will kill everybody at Blue Letter Bible.
01:50:14.860
We set up a studio in a coffee shop in record time.
01:50:59.980
He was like, yo, they were just boom, boom, boom.
01:51:02.540
But then when you did the food drive, I was like, oh, yeah, no.
01:51:12.300
But this is after Matt has explained to me all this stuff.
01:51:15.620
And I look at it and I go, what are we talking about?
01:51:29.420
Nancy, is there is there malice and venom in top when he's angry?
01:51:49.900
Well, in other circumstances, it would have been so bad if you hadn't just put together
01:51:53.600
a fucking studio in record time, bought an extra microphone, labored your ass off to get this
01:52:00.220
And then had a fucking rep from Blue Letter Bible on, gave him a platform to do as you do.
01:52:10.620
You're going to do that in the future sometime, Chuck.
01:52:20.480
And Matt goes, he goes, you know, I didn't expect this from you, but you're being real
01:52:25.820
Because I told, well, I told him you should have expected that.
01:52:31.380
I don't know if we ever told you about it, but he said, you know, you were angry about
01:52:40.940
And he goes, have you like taken into consideration, like, you know, whatever role like you're playing
01:52:51.020
Because I feel like that's like a really important thing.
01:52:54.100
Like, that's a reasonable thing for anybody to do in any circumstance is to also take into
01:52:59.400
I just said, like, I said, yeah, I hear what you're saying.
01:53:11.740
And then the next day it was the Jews in the heaviest way ever.
01:53:15.580
And then since then, it's just a never ending cascade of Mr. Nasty and Jews, mostly Jews.
01:53:30.260
I sit on the outside and I go, I check in in the group chat and I go, I just go back to
01:53:39.280
Because I brought it up and I was like, you know, these guys, right?
01:53:44.480
So I'm like, okay, we're going to do this thing now.
01:53:46.540
And every time I see something compelling, I'm like, drop it in there.
01:54:07.400
Nola says, I can't remember if it was NDS or TLC, but some saint in the chat named themselves
01:54:21.040
So, I mean, overwhelmingly, I will admit it is Matt.
01:54:30.940
Queen Flatina said, Matt's been a real blessing.
01:54:33.160
Abigail Blue says, I think I'm just doxing her.
01:54:36.780
Matt and all of the Bible studies that one time I called into the Raven show and talked about
01:54:41.980
Talking to Raven is a big part of my timeline and testimony.
01:54:51.980
Ed, well, what I want to do right now is say, after this show, guys, please go support
01:54:57.220
Ed's episode on The Confessionals, talking about the little season.
01:55:02.500
Whether or not you are a little seasoner, because I know there are little seasoners that listen
01:55:11.340
Ed lays out a really compelling, really thoughtful argument against the little season.
01:55:15.580
But more importantly, a guy that has helped us in our own development spiritually, but also
01:55:21.980
the development of this show, who's been a huge part of this community, who's been an
01:55:31.300
I mean, in some ways, Ed is a bit of a mentor figure to us.
01:55:51.760
It really was a shining moment for him to just show you all the tools that are in his tool
01:55:58.680
You know, Ed's one of those guys where, like, he surprises me all the time.
01:56:01.840
I get so used to talking to him and kind of used to having him be a part of what we do
01:56:06.200
here, that when we go into kind of uncharted territory, and then Ed just opens up a can of
01:56:11.500
whoop-ass in terms of, like, how much he actually knows about a subject.
01:56:18.220
I mean, this guy can go anywhere, talk about anything.
01:56:22.080
We started with him talking about the speed of light and how that relates to God and the
01:56:33.400
And now, you know, it's like, like I said, in a lot of ways, especially for me being a
01:56:40.100
baby Christian, and this show has always been part of, like, my learning experience, Ed has
01:56:46.080
helped me tremendously, tremendously understand God.
01:56:59.440
I just mean, like, if you watch Ed on NDS, what he's done on those, like, 50, 60 episodes,
01:57:15.480
What you did was take all of your points and somehow, like, just, you know, confine them
01:57:35.980
But, I mean, he's been here, yeah, refining these ideas, these arguments, these talking
01:57:40.560
points, these theories, you know, all of these things.
01:57:44.260
And then he goes on the confessionals and he just lays out this, like, masterclass.
01:57:48.540
I'm looking forward to his solo episode with Tony because...
01:57:56.180
What I will say is, because I'm like, damn, man, Ed should have had his own thing on this.
01:58:04.980
I'm listening to a part right now, I forgot what it was, but I'm in the car and I'm like,
01:58:12.320
That's a great refute of, if you think it's a little season, you know, why it's not.
01:58:16.880
And he lays out this argument, and I'm like, kind of hard to get around that one.
01:58:21.020
I hadn't heard it yet, so I think he was a good addition to it, but I am looking forward
01:58:28.220
Because I went on the confessionals app and I was like, I hope this is the beginning of
01:58:31.900
a bigger relationship because Ed is a guy that, you know, from what we heard, you know,
01:58:38.760
even just back on Tinfoil Hat to how much he's, Ed is our blacksmith, refining us, he is our
01:58:45.940
From what I've heard on Tinfoil Hat to like what he then has shared with us over the last
01:58:50.720
two years, like this dude has so much guidance.
01:58:54.840
It's not like he's like the end-all be-all, but like he has thought a lot about a lot of
01:58:59.700
really important things, a lot of important things that you might have questions about
01:59:05.540
And this is a guy that can help you frame them.
01:59:07.840
And it's like everything he does just points to God, just points to God.
01:59:13.460
I think that's like the most damning part of this interview that he did.
01:59:18.060
And the people that are going to argue back with it, he's just like, the Bible doesn't
01:59:22.640
He's like, here's what the Bible says about it.
01:59:24.140
And he tells you, and it's like, oh, you know, you can disagree if you want, but you're
01:59:34.320
Nancy said the comment section is filled with bitter little seasoners.
01:59:37.940
It's like, I know what it's going to need your support now.
01:59:41.780
Because it's, I mean, he's seasoned in the internet, but it's just going to get like, he
02:00:00.980
He's a, I thought he put that argument to bed again.
02:00:08.020
Well, that's, that's the point that I'm really trying to drive home here is like, we've talked
02:00:11.520
about the little season, maybe less than five times, like five episodes with him, but we've
02:00:22.060
We've done more episodes like pro little season than we have against it.
02:00:27.160
I'd say, and, and my takeaway is, um, it's an idea in a sea of ideas.
02:00:33.480
It's a fascinating one, but there seems to be a strong argument against it.
02:00:36.860
I'm not moved towards it, but the people that are like against Ed need to ask themselves,
02:00:46.320
This is an information thing, but you like, these people are fucking like hating Ed.
02:00:50.920
It's like, dude, I've not had anybody present me information where I'm like, fuck that guy.
02:00:58.700
Uh, I, I do, uh, appreciate that he does not shy away from the episode.
02:01:11.520
Cause he's like, he's like, we're going to bring this in for a landing.
02:01:13.580
And Tony's like, uh, and I'm just like, yeah, dude, Ed's like, we're bringing this
02:01:29.560
Get off his butt and gather the nations against Jerusalem, wherever it might be.
02:01:41.940
Then we have the great white throne of judgment.
02:01:45.020
It is a psyop created by our enemies, the Jesuits, in order to do what they were, what
02:01:50.920
they were commissioned to do, to destroy Protestantism and to destroy Protestant or
02:01:56.740
mainline, I don't like the word Protestant, mainline Christian eschatology.
02:02:09.300
Yeah, you know, one of the things that he said, dude, that's a great, that's a great.
02:02:13.940
And I listened to enough Merkel where like episodes don't end like that.
02:02:23.640
It's like, if Christ has returned, what then does that make of the great commission?
02:02:28.780
This is, well, this is like kind of like, what does that make about spreading the gospel,
02:02:33.560
If Jesus has already returned, then is the great commission a fruitless endeavor?
02:02:38.280
Because that's a really important question to be asking.
02:02:42.380
If he's already returned and the millennial reign has already taken place and now we're
02:02:46.860
just waiting for new Jerusalem and fire from the sky, what then does that make of the great
02:02:52.700
commission of making disciples and spreading the gospel?
02:03:02.940
Like, is there something in scripture that goes, no, no, that's not the case.
02:03:05.400
Because I'm looking at them like, that's a pretty potent question to be asking.
02:03:13.900
But it seems like right now, like what I'm caught up in is making disciples, spreading
02:03:18.840
the gospel, bringing people who are in conspiracy and the fringes and all these different occult
02:03:23.400
practices and Gnosticism to the realization that Jesus Christ is real in the way that the
02:03:32.160
He is the narrow path to God, you know, all these things.
02:03:37.300
Because if this dude already came back and he already reigned for a thousand years, what's
02:03:42.220
I think another question is like the people that are little seasoners, are they doing
02:03:48.100
I don't think anybody's doing it like nefariously.
02:03:52.200
I mean, I haven't set out to make disciples or what I guess we have people that follow,
02:04:00.080
They follow like a like right like alongside us, not just like looking at us.
02:04:06.060
We're we're we're walking this path with them and we're just like calling other people
02:04:13.040
That's like that's not even that's not an exaggeration.
02:04:15.660
Yeah, this is like because we're that's kind of that's what I always said.
02:04:24.860
Because it's not like it's unfair to be like, are you doing that?
02:04:30.100
But like, I think that's a it's a consequence of your action of how you're of what you're
02:04:35.060
looking into and the things that you're researching.
02:04:37.280
And if the little season doesn't I mean, I think by by its nature, when you're looking
02:04:42.980
into the little season and kind of buying into that, you're not making disciples or
02:04:47.680
or right people alongside of you that are walking because it's like, what are the fruits
02:04:54.460
And I'm not saying, listen, that's not a bad thing.
02:04:56.120
It's just it's not that I yeah, I like legitimately don't know.
02:05:00.420
I'm not saying that is like I'm saying like in this moment, I don't know.
02:05:06.220
So I don't know, man, I don't think it's content.
02:05:10.980
It turns out, you know, it's it's compelling and I get it like I've seen it.
02:05:15.900
I've seen what they see and I go, damn, that is a good deception.
02:05:19.480
You would like really twist people up about where they are in the biblical timeline.
02:05:22.460
And it does seem like some big ass, you know, remarkable civilization was hidden from
02:05:27.140
And like, I don't know what all that means, but I get why you're looking at it.
02:05:32.960
But I think I never thought about it within the context of the Great Commission, which
02:05:37.760
just so happened to be the thing that we were talking with Ed about the other day when
02:05:42.620
And then the very next day, I'm listening to him talk about that on the confessionals.
02:05:47.180
And I'm going, oh, yeah, dude, if we're called to make disciples of men.
02:05:54.140
Are we like, what is it what happens to the Great Commission?
02:05:58.640
Is that work done when the millennial reign comes?
02:06:05.480
You're making disciples of men until what point?
02:06:09.640
And then and then after he reigns for a millennial, a millennium, whatever, a millennial, what
02:06:20.080
And if it's not make disciples of men because Christ has already returned, what the hell are
02:06:27.540
But you reminded me of the Great Commission, reminds me of one of my favorite episodes
02:06:57.000
Because so, yeah, people, what happened here is Dave just walked into the coffee shop.
02:07:04.200
You drove from Indiana of all places to Indiana is a strange place.
02:07:10.280
I'm sure you've heard all of our all of our stuff on it.
02:07:13.320
Just to come here and like bless us for what you said, man.
02:07:38.500
We just want to thank you for the brother coming all the way here.
02:07:48.860
We do recognize that this is some form of an attack on this physical body.
02:07:55.500
And just pray that you would correct it and kill it in the name of Jesus.
02:08:06.500
I have to remember to reach out to him to start finalizing some of the details on this NDS video game.
02:08:13.840
Yeah, I guess we're talking about favorite moments.
02:08:15.960
Yeah, that was definitely one of my favorite moments.
02:08:20.200
Man, I'm going to see favorite moments as far as the show is concerned.
02:08:23.740
I'd almost have to scroll through our catalog to like kind of jog my memory.
02:08:29.700
Sometimes because I think the amount of content that we pump out per week, it's like some of these memories just get buried.
02:08:39.300
If I scroll through, I might be able to find a couple of big ones.
02:08:43.660
I mean, definitely the Mother Horse Eyes thing for me was like.
02:08:48.500
That whole breakdown that we did of it was great.
02:09:04.060
And then discovered that we're not documentarians.
02:09:07.280
Got wrapped up in a conspiracy to arrest somebody.
02:09:17.560
We interviewed a guy about Tartari and the Cabbage Patch Kids.
02:09:21.220
Turns out he's a little seasoner, doesn't believe in Jesus.
02:09:46.180
And that was kind of a really meaningful thing because Frank has been a homie for a while now.
02:09:51.500
And in particular, his fan base, the Frankleys, like really, really fuck with us.
02:09:58.020
And and so to be there and to meet people from like his side of the fence that were fans of what we do and then being able to to perform, you know, I guess it's what I ended up doing there at his live event, which he said he was inspired by Bohemian Grove to do that.
02:10:16.020
Because he thought that it was important to meet people in real life and to do something in real life and to get this thing off the Internet and to go and shake hands and see the faces of the people that support you.
02:10:40.200
You should see about going and hanging out with with Frank.
02:10:51.480
People were asking about a lot of people were asking about you.
02:11:00.000
And we got to meet Jamie Henshaw Dyer this year and then do a couple of episodes with her.
02:11:16.600
We talked to us like a hell of a Jew, like a big old Jew.
02:11:26.040
I don't know why he would say about the with the foreskin and the things that he did with the foreskin.
02:11:30.160
I don't think he did the things with the foreskin.
02:11:51.460
I mean, this is somebody that I think in the future might be seeing a little bit more.
02:11:55.700
There are people in this in this arena that are like sleepers, I think.
02:12:00.200
And I think Steven is a person that's going to shape up to be a weird sort of sleeper in a way.
02:12:12.720
We were like, when we saw him, we're like, yeah.
02:12:18.580
And now that he's been on the confessionals, he is going to crush, man.
02:12:26.520
And we have the second episode coming up with him.
02:12:28.340
He's really going to get to showcase all of the helpful information that he's cultivated over the years that he's been doing this.
02:12:43.620
And he's going to be making the rounds on all kinds of shows.
02:12:46.180
And, I mean, as helpful as he has been for my walk with God, I think he's going to be equally as helpful for countless other people, dude.
02:12:59.160
I was just looking at NDS Chronicles, Steve Wilkos.
02:13:08.440
I think it's cool that we're going to start this new year off with this food pantry.
02:13:15.200
We've gotten somewhere in the neighborhood of like $3,000 in donations.
02:13:22.120
I'm actually a little bit worried about trying to do anything with more money than that.
02:13:28.060
I think we're going to have some product, some gift cards to like Publix and shit like that.
02:13:32.640
You know, and just try to, because this is going to get like, you know, anything more than $3,000 in food materials is like, what the fuck does that even look like?
02:13:43.320
Well, we'll have Matt's help, but Matt's got a coffee shop to run.
02:13:45.640
So it's really just two dudes, you know, trying to do all this.
02:13:51.080
And I think that's what we're touching on with the whole witchcraft thing, going back to church, that community there kind of, I don't know.
02:14:12.520
And I think for me, a little bit, the highlight has been being able to produce Matt's show.
02:14:41.160
This is a thing that we're that we've made that.
02:14:51.300
It was, you know, and there's only a couple of episodes in this, but every single one
02:15:08.040
And I'm looking forward to seeing this thing grow.
02:15:10.860
So as we continue to, like, refine it, sharpen it up, seeing what it is, watching Matt get
02:15:19.060
better at doing this as he's doing it, I'm getting better at producing what we're doing
02:15:25.760
I think this is going to be something pretty special to watch.
02:15:30.460
I don't know if it should be on its own channel.
02:15:33.560
The only reason I don't think it should be on its own channel is because who the hell is
02:15:42.380
But maybe one day, maybe one day it should be its own channel.
02:15:45.380
Honestly, it's like I'm I'm I'm conflicted between it should be its own thing versus like
02:15:51.720
I also don't want to let that go off of off of our our network, whatever we have.
02:16:00.520
Well, I want to keep offering it to the people who have who've tagged along for the ride
02:16:04.860
It's like it's not just about the views because it's like there's not it doesn't get as many
02:16:08.700
views as the shows that we do, but it it's going to do more because of what it is.
02:16:14.920
I could tell what I'm making and I'm like, this thing is a different type of content and
02:16:21.120
it's going to do once it's placed and people see it, it's going to go crazy.
02:16:25.620
But also it's like that's why I don't want to I really don't want to put it on another
02:16:29.420
channel because it's like, yo, you guys came along for us.
02:16:33.660
Some of these people have been here for the full two years and it's like you've been a
02:16:38.180
You've seen everything that we've gone through and the development that we've gone through.
02:16:42.400
And now we're at this point where it's like we get to offer you something good, something
02:16:54.900
And like this is like this feels like something I'm I'm happy that we can give Matt a platform
02:17:04.200
Yeah, this is what we this is what we offer you.
02:17:13.280
I mean, we had some heavy hitters in the beginning.
02:17:21.820
Donnie's been through a fucking crazy experience, man.
02:17:26.160
We didn't even have thumbnails for a lot of these early ones.
02:17:33.400
I don't know if he's still doing little season stuff or whatever.
02:17:36.300
Yeah, I saw a clip of him recently, but he's just got stuck in it.
02:17:47.120
The fucking, uh, wait, we're going to talk about QAnon shaman.
02:17:57.920
He said he asked us to spread the message and I don't really know how to do it.
02:18:11.800
He's going, he's going through like a lot of crazy shit.
02:18:22.200
Tell people, he said, you know, tell people about like, what's going, you know, that I'm,
02:18:30.500
I was like, well, they're, they're not seeing you.
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Nancy said my favorite was when Raven got shingles.
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He asked if I wanted to handle an announcement for him.
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I've been shut down by the FBI who has been and is currently investigating me.
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I'm standing firm on my promise that I'll give away everything publicly.
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It'll be a year that I'm gone, but I'll be back.
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Um, also there's a murder involved for a conspiracy show.
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And, uh, I don't even want to, yeah, he's a murder involved.
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What given away all designs and files for the Rife machine, uh, for free to anyone who will ask.
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So he asked me to make this announcement to people.
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Yeah, we'll make them in the back next to the casino.
02:19:31.160
Um, yeah, dude, I don't know what the hell's going on.
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He's like one of the, he bought me a fucking computer.
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I was there when he almost burnt down the entire house with, uh, two tomahawk steaks.
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He invited us over to a place and the steak fat just got to dripping on that grill dude.
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And it almost lit up an entire Airbnb and it was actually terrifying.
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Um, I just don't know what's going on with them.
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I honestly, this guy, what was happening with him might be something that we're going to
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talk about years from now as like, yeah, what was that doctor?
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The doctor that was like curing cancer and shit.
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And then, then the FBI came and shut down and shit, pull up, pull up thing.
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I want to see what other, these early episodes that we did.
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I know this is like not 2025, but it is kind of fascinating.
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Episode 20 is we, uh, too far from God's light with, uh, or 24.
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It's, it's, uh, right beneath Neft to America volume nine.
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The quality of our guests is, uh, declined significantly.
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It's just like, I don't, I'm not so worried about guests as much these days.
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What a, what a wild ass, uh, what a, what a stupid ride.
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Maybe we'll open up a podcast studio in a coffee shop.
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Yeah, I was going to say, what do you guys think we should do?