Order of Man - CASEY LOFTHOUSE ｜ Creating Impact Over Income

00:00:00.300 Most men are chasing a dent in the world. It's followers, recognition, a bigger stage, while overlooking the one place they can actually make the biggest difference, and that's the town they live in and the people right next to them.

00:00:13.540 Today's conversation is about making an impact over income, why being known by 10,000 people in your own community beats being famous online, and why we're robbing our kids by shielding them from the consequences of their bad choices.

00:00:29.540 But we also get into giving yourself permission to try new things without committing to them forever, managing risk without letting fear run your life, and knowing when to say no so the service that you do doesn't burn you out.

00:00:45.260 My guest today, Casey Lofthouse, is a mechanic, tow operator, former search and rescue volunteer, mule packer, country line dancer, and one of the most capable and generous men that I know.

00:00:57.420 he's also someone I'd call first personally if I was in a in a rough spot if you've ever felt like

00:01:03.680 you don't matter because you're not quote-unquote making your mark this conversation might change

00:01:09.940 how you see your own value whether you're broke down stuck in the sand or frankly just having a

00:01:16.060 bad day it's all kind of part of the adventure what matters is who shows up and how you're a

00:01:22.980 man of action. You live life to the fullest, embrace your fears, and boldly chart your own

00:01:27.740 path. When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time. You are not easily

00:01:33.580 deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong. This is your life. This is who you are. This is

00:01:40.880 who you will become. At the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can call yourself

00:01:46.280 a man. Men, welcome to the Order of Man podcast. If you're new here, I am Ryan Michler, your host

00:01:52.460 and the founder. We're doing things different. Just had a big product redesign. I said product,

00:01:59.440 but a podcast redesign. The studio is brand new and it looks incredible. We're still working on

00:02:07.420 some camera angles and increasing the quality of the visuals, but the studio is like 95% there.

00:02:13.500 So make sure you check this video out on this podcast out on YouTube at youtube.com slash

00:02:19.260 Order of Man, because I think you're going to like what you see. I hope you do anyways.

00:02:23.580 I've got a really, really good one lined up for our first in-person podcast in this new studio.

00:02:29.500 Keith Yacke joined me, but that was a shell of what it became. So make sure you check this one

00:02:34.100 out. It's with my good friend. His name is Casey Lofthouse. We'll get into that in just a minute.

00:02:39.740 And also speaking of good friends and capable, I think every man ought to have himself a good,

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00:03:30.480 has a good knife. Again, Montana knife company.com use the code order of man. Let me introduce you

00:03:36.380 of my guest. His name is Casey Lofthaus. He spent most of his life just being the guy that people

00:03:42.800 call when things go sideways. He runs an organization called Winterton Automotive Towing,

00:03:48.640 also Casey's Auto Repair in my hometown, Hurricane, Utah. And he has documented his

00:03:55.860 backcountry rescues and towing people out of weird predicaments and situations on his YouTube

00:04:01.800 channel over at Casey's Off-Road Recovery since 2007, so almost 20 years now. He spent years with

00:04:09.320 Washington County Search and Rescue and has been involved in Utah's off-road and land use community

00:04:15.140 for decades. And that includes helping launch one of the largest state off-road events in 2003.

00:04:23.280 But this guy packs mules into the backcountry and hauls out hunters and big game and

00:04:28.600 people in predicaments they don't want to be in. He pulls authentic wagons with his beloved mules

00:04:35.260 in commemorative treks. He's a Renaissance man. He does it all. But he grew up as one of 13 kids

00:04:42.040 and learned hard work and community service from his dad and from the men that he worked for as a

00:04:47.560 teenager when he was a kid doing welding. He's a classic country vocal performer, a country line

00:04:56.600 dancing instructor, a longtime commercial beekeeper. He's also an honorary lifetime member

00:05:03.980 of the Dixie Amateur Radio Club for his work building repeater systems in Southern Utah.

00:05:09.500 They're still using decades later. I think you guys are really going to enjoy this one. I think

00:05:17.300 you're going to hear from a guy who is a lot like us and a lot better than me anyway, in a lot of

00:05:25.920 ways enjoy this one guys casey what is up man uh i bet you didn't know you're gonna help me set up

00:05:32.940 this podcast studio today i'm always up for an adventure you said it's better than your real

00:05:37.800 your real work yeah i happen to fix cars or tow cars it's a little bit better project than that

00:05:43.980 but you're not doing that much anymore right like you got a team that's doing it oh yeah i have a

00:05:48.880 great group of guys that work down at the shop um good good cover on the tow trucks when i need a

00:05:54.960 day off and other than that you can always say no that's true do you say no i don't imagine you're

00:06:00.400 the kind of person who says no though i think that's the catch i don't say no to people that

00:06:05.860 are in need most of the time if i'm available or can have you know have one of the crew go but

00:06:10.560 you know sometimes in your career you get to the point to where you start to worry about what your

00:06:17.160 impact is versus how much money you're making so that's kind of where i'm at what's your what kind

00:06:23.560 of impact do you want to do you want to have like you're starting to look at more like legacy right

00:06:28.220 then well just how you can impact people's lives over what you can charge them i mean you have a

00:06:34.560 single mother that's in need and she needs a toe and she's having a hard time already and then you

00:06:39.420 find out it's her birthday so you can be impactful in little ways like that over being motivated by

00:06:45.740 the money that you might get so okay so hear me out on this it's i'm not gonna say it's easy to

00:06:51.940 say that but I will say it's easier to say that as I'm 45 years old finances are a lot better

00:07:00.160 right today than they were 20 years ago so how do you manage that that idea with I got to put food

00:07:07.680 on the table though well your family and is your priority of course but as you said when you become

00:07:14.560 more comfortable in life and your career and your finances then you're able to you know help people

00:07:20.320 that are in need or help people that uh need a leg up or just a hello like it's just kind of one

00:07:26.160 of the things is i've noticed in my life it changes like kind of what your priorities are

00:07:31.500 in your younger days you was always hustling to make money because you had to to survive and now

00:07:37.060 you get to a point in life where you're more comfortable and you can help people that are

00:07:43.380 kind of struggling leave a bigger tip you know that kind of stuff yeah do you feel like you've

00:07:47.500 always been like that like how is that because i've told people and you may not know this but

00:07:51.780 i've told people when i talk about you it's all bad stuff but no when i when i talk about you

00:07:57.540 because we've been friends for a long time but when i talk about you you know i i often describe

00:08:03.440 you as somebody who's extremely capable who's extremely caring shirt off shirt off your back

00:08:09.720 kind of guy um you know if i was in a pickle i'd probably call you don't you're like don't call me

00:08:15.840 But, no, if I was, you'd be one of the top people I'd call because I know, like, okay, Casey's going to help me, number one.

00:08:23.100 He's going to want to help me, number one, and he's going to be capable of helping me, number two.

00:08:27.200 Well, and I think it's interesting you say that because, I mean, as an early age, my dad always taught me to be a hustler. 0.95

00:08:33.240 He's like, you know, you'd say something like, this sucks. 0.95

00:08:36.580 And he's like, no, it doesn't suck. 0.96

00:08:38.140 Just knuckle down, buckle down, and just do it, do it, do it.

00:08:40.620 And so he would always instill like the value of hard work, but then along with that, you know, was like being able to serve people in your community, help the elderly, you know, all of those things kind of got instilled with me at a younger age.

00:08:57.200 Not, not just my dad, but other people, um, you know, growing up that set examples for

00:09:03.120 me at a young age, even as a young teenager, just, I went to work for MacArthur Welding

00:09:08.500 in St. George as a young man and, uh, Sam and Dan and Joe and Eldon and those, those

00:09:14.900 guys were like pillars of the community, you know, and Dan was the mayor for a lot of years

00:09:18.800 and they were just great examples of what it meant to, you know, be, uh, community oriented

00:09:26.620 and be kind of you know somebody in the community that the community can count on it so those guys

00:09:31.460 really set me up for success at a at a young age just by their example yeah yeah i think it's good

00:09:38.160 it's hard because i think now what people are young young people met young boys and young girls

00:09:42.680 are looking at as far as examples go or like i don't know some some pop star or some you know

00:09:49.680 athlete that they see on tv or some tiktok influencer and it seems like we've moved away

00:09:55.480 from and part of that i think too like i love small towns we live in a fairly small community

00:09:59.560 it's growing but yeah it's growing for sure we live in a fairly small community and i think

00:10:03.440 there's just something to be said about a town where people know each other and they know your

00:10:08.000 parents and your wife and your kids and your friends and so like there's some accountability

00:10:13.660 in that that i think there's a way when you have a bigger town yeah and i think that was the thing

00:10:18.080 um growing up in a small town it's like if you're if you're going to get in trouble or you're going

00:10:23.760 gonna be out raised in hell you're you're gonna know your parents you know about it you know and

00:10:27.980 i i really kind of do miss the days where there was uh personal accountability where the police 0.94

00:10:33.900 officer would just say you know do you want do you want to take you do you want me to call your dad

00:10:37.860 which funny it's funny that i mentioned that because lincoln my boy lincoln uh he's 18 he

00:10:44.220 uh runs around with your boy brecken and yeah they

00:10:47.880 he got pulled over and the officer said well either we can write you a ticket or we can call

00:10:55.540 your dad what did he say what did he say he say write me a ticket he said well you're gonna have

00:10:59.740 to write me a ticket my dad's out of state out of town out of service like you can't call my dad

00:11:04.200 right now anyways it's just good in a community um you know to still have that small town feel

00:11:10.420 um we have a wonderful police department here that it takes a village to raise kids and you

00:11:16.300 know the school teachers that set the example and the principals and all of that the coaches um

00:11:21.440 and so it's been kind of a trip raising kids and lincoln's my youngest 18 now and

00:11:26.580 it's just kind of neat to see i mean i guess you could say i've got some of the benefits of the

00:11:33.660 good old boy oh just because i know all the officers from working on their cars and trucks

00:11:38.000 and just being involved in fundraisers and so you know part of what i said earlier about being in

00:11:43.660 the community, being part of the community. You have benefits down the road because you've been

00:11:48.480 a good person or you've been part of those groups and those community initiatives to raise money or

00:11:55.440 whatever somebody's in need. And so you kind of get that paid back in time over little funny

00:12:01.000 things like that with one of the officers that just knew me, knew my kid and says, hey, you got

00:12:05.700 a couple of choices here. Yeah, that's fun. So I grew up in Perlin and it kind of reminded me.

00:12:10.800 so i had this story when i was a kid where we we had this little gang and uh my my version of a

00:12:19.680 gang is we went out on friday or saturday night and toilet paper the oh yeah house or whatever

00:12:25.100 or set firecrackers off in a pod at 2 a.m and right you know but we went we there was four or

00:12:32.760 five of us and we went to this house and it was it was a girl you know a girl ra it was a cute

00:12:39.160 girl our age and so we toilet papered her house but we had this brilliant idea that we'd bring a

00:12:43.600 bunch of shaving cream with us oh boy so we brought shaving cream and we wrote because we our gang was

00:12:48.580 called tpb toilet paper bandits and so we wrote tpb on the side of her house wood siding house and

00:12:57.340 we got to that was like a friday or saturday night we get to school on monday

00:13:01.960 and the principal called the five of us in or whatever it was and he's like hey uh brother

00:13:10.580 johnson he was the ups driver right he's like hey he came by and asked me to give you these letters

00:13:15.920 so we each got a letter and it said so you're like 16 17 years old and the letter said dear

00:13:24.220 tpb member thank you so much for graciously volunteering to come paint my house this weekend

00:13:31.160 i'll expect you at 7 a.m paint will be here show up ready to work busted and so we all went and

00:13:40.520 it was mr johnson like i said he was the ups driver in town that's and he he had the paint 0.95

00:13:46.320 ready and we painted his house um but he was cool about it you know like he wasn't a dick 0.67

00:13:51.780 he was like hey like you guys messed up here's your accountability but he was there he was out

00:13:59.060 hanging out with us his wife came out and brought lemonade and sandwiches for lunch

00:14:03.320 yep and it was it was cool it was a good experience for us because there was a level

00:14:08.100 of accountability yeah without just trying to wreck a kid's life because i did some dumb thing

00:14:13.680 when he was 16 years old and i think that's important for parents to remember to be be

00:14:19.000 adults instead of juveniles when your kid's in trouble and you're like you don't necessarily

00:14:23.940 want to see your kid in trouble or admit that maybe he made a mistake but at the same time

00:14:28.460 if you can communicate with the other parents and the staff and say hey what can we do to

00:14:32.880 you know change his mind or change his behavior like you make them uncomfortable a little bit

00:14:37.960 they're more more likely to not repeat the same behavior and so instead of being a big baby about

00:14:45.340 when your kid gets in trouble just like you know they're coming to pick you up and you're going

00:14:49.400 with them today yeah you're gonna work and so that's i think that's an important thing with

00:14:53.420 Well, I think there's also this thing now where it's like, my dog's here. This is new. Anybody who's listening, you're catching a very raw version of the leveling up of the podcast. So you spent an hour and a half or something with me trying to set up cameras. My dog's right here hanging out. Camera angles are weird, but we're getting to figure it out.

00:15:16.560 well and you know that's a that's a good lesson is you know we can we can talk about what's going

00:15:24.100 on behind the scenes we can talk about you know all the other nonsense that goes on life in life

00:15:30.300 but um i think the one note you can take away from that is just be your true authentic self

00:15:35.460 um sometimes when you're you're building a program or building i mean i did that youtube

00:15:41.500 channel for a while and yeah i i decided early on i was like i'm just gonna be myself and i think if

00:15:48.340 you can be yourself um on camera in person in the community like it's just more authentic it's more

00:15:56.600 real it's just uh just you get what you get i think people relate with it more you know i i

00:16:03.520 honestly believe like we're just we're kind of tired collectively of ai's great like we used we

00:16:09.500 used ai as we're set i'm like what how do i fix this camera and it pulled right up it's like oh

00:16:13.460 you can't that's what it said that's what it told me you can't you can't okay and then it gave me a

00:16:19.040 product recommendation of something to buy instead yeah perfect um but i think you're right like i i

00:16:24.600 think we're so burnt out on ai i think we're frustrated with fakeness and i just think there's

00:16:32.160 something something powerful for a lot of people of just being real and like you said being authentic

00:16:36.920 and i was gonna say earlier before my dog interrupted us and he's if if you're on youtube

00:16:43.360 like he's chilling right here buying it out now which is actually kind of cool like i didn't even

00:16:47.880 think but maybe the dog has just become a staple of the podcast um no but what i was gonna say

00:16:54.360 earlier is uh you know you have you have these situations now where a kid goes to school and he

00:17:03.560 mouths off to a teacher or even worse he hits a teacher which is increasingly common and he gets

00:17:09.780 in trouble at school and the mom calls up and it's usually a mom like it's a single mom typically

00:17:13.960 she calls up and she's like i can't believe you did this it's like whoa hold on and like when i

00:17:19.760 was a kid if i said oh i got in trouble mrs smith you know yelled at me or whatever she my mom was

00:17:25.720 like well what'd you do yeah exactly not like what did miss smith do she's like what did you do to

00:17:30.480 deserve to be yelled at right and it's different now like yeah it's not there we're just missing

00:17:35.700 a whole lot of personal accountability in it i mean it it goes for i mean adults through kids

00:17:41.360 i mean your own man that can't take accountability for their behavior um just you know lacking

00:17:47.980 integrity all of those types of things i think that we need to take a step back and you know

00:17:52.760 start all being better at self i mean you hate to take your licking but sometimes when it's coming

00:17:59.280 you just have to say you know i made a mistake i mean men never like to say sorry nobody likes to

00:18:05.160 say sorry and admit they were wrong but i think that um sometimes if you can step back and you

00:18:10.900 know recognize that i'm i'm not perfect by no stretch of the imagination i make mistakes every

00:18:15.760 day but if you can uh take personal accountability if you've offended somebody if you've done

00:18:21.800 somebody wrong in business um you know whatever whatever it is is go have that conversation and

00:18:28.280 settle the score you'll feel a lot better about things um just just being humble you know not

00:18:35.920 being so arrogant that you can't admit your faults and see that you hurt somebody or whatever i think

00:18:40.520 that um i mean you want to talk about criminal criminal accountability when you're speeding or

00:18:46.180 or whatever that you know that's just this plays right into it if you think about what the

00:18:50.780 repercussions are for a speeding ticket you know they can be expensive 300 something bucks yeah

00:18:56.000 And then, uh, so, you know, being, being more thoughtful in your daily actions and activities

00:19:03.200 to where you don't have those repercussions and it applies to kids.

00:19:06.500 I think, um, you know, kids are lacking accountability and I think it starts at your

00:19:12.040 parents, you know, your, your teachers shouldn't have to teach your kids how to behave in public.

00:19:17.560 You know, that should already be instilled in them before they ever.

00:19:20.380 But I think what happens is we become so accustomed to, for example, the public school

00:19:25.360 system where i i just think for the most part it's just looked at free daycare right like mom

00:19:32.200 and dad go to work more increasingly so mom than than dad um and it's like cool let's dump our

00:19:39.120 kids off they'll be gone and out of hair our hair for eight hours yeah you know my ex and you know

00:19:44.000 my ex um and you know my family really well like we we have the luxury of her being able to homeschool

00:19:50.580 the kids still even after the divorce but a lot of people are not in that situation where

00:19:56.600 you know it's like we we have to go to work but then they also look at it as dump as free daycare

00:20:02.600 and dumping their kids off right but the thing that i struggle with more than anything with that

00:20:06.600 scenario is when you get home it's not like those people are talking to their kids about what did

00:20:12.260 you learn what did you go through come help me you know i don't know with with your your son

00:20:16.840 your youngest i don't know if he ever came and helped you at the shop or swept floors or dump

00:20:21.640 trash i mean my kids helped me with store order a little different work but store orders when i was

00:20:27.100 a kid my first stepdad he was a cabinet maker and my job was to go out there and get that push broom

00:20:34.860 when i was a kid sweep that shop up after work well it's just teach them a little bit of

00:20:39.460 responsibility i mean that's why i've um you know the kids that have like a chore list they have

00:20:48.000 um like if you have animals like we have animals livestock pigs whatever chickens you know you try

00:20:53.700 to get them involved in like the day-to-day even just it's something it's your responsibility to

00:20:58.460 feed the dog and cats you know it's just give them give them that chore and have expectations

00:21:02.760 that they'll complete it and i think as as a young kid as a toddler they learn those routines and

00:21:08.440 those responsibilities and then when it's something bigger you know we all have responsibilities as

00:21:13.340 adults and so if your kids learn that responsibility as adult um they get their first job and they know

00:21:19.300 they're expected to be there from eight to five and they get a lunch and they they can't just take

00:21:23.920 two weeks off the first two weeks they're working you know yeah those types of things and it's a

00:21:29.300 transition obviously when you're getting out of high school and stuff but it's it's interesting

00:21:35.380 to watch the young men and women that you know grew up with my kids that are kind of transitioning

00:21:42.020 into adulthood some of them have kids some of them don't you know but man the day you have kids

00:21:46.760 they're your whole world changes yeah it does and um it's like make or break you you just kind of

00:21:53.740 like you're you you're responsible for these new little human beings and you know you don't believe

00:22:00.720 it when they're toddlers and you've spent the last six months up awake all night crying babies but

00:22:06.020 the time goes by so fast oh it does um but those little lessons that they learn

00:22:13.620 responsibilities and like you say communicate hey what did you do today you know we can all

00:22:19.420 be better at that even even lincoln now i just say hey how was work and fine you know you may

00:22:24.560 not get a lot out of it but you show some genuine interest in what they're up to um and you know

00:22:31.840 overall every everything else is lead by example you know try to do your best to be a good parent

00:22:36.880 and um because they're they're like a parrot you know they're going to learn from your behavior

00:22:43.380 um they they definitely will you know you you're a product of your parents so and you know even

00:22:53.380 more than your parents is like the other people i mentioned earlier the people in your life that

00:22:57.260 are that set the example for your own like you're a product of your environment yeah um i learned

00:23:03.620 that early on when i was a young man i had a a group of guys i was working with i got in trouble

00:23:08.880 like literally two months after my 18th birthday and i went in front of the judge and the judge

00:23:15.860 says well you're going to learn right now that hanging out with the wrong kind of people is

00:23:22.380 going to make or break who you are in life. So you go down to the county jail on Friday night

00:23:28.560 and you get to stay in there until Sunday night and I'll make sure you make it to work Monday

00:23:33.480 morning. Whoa. And that was all it took. One weekend in the county jail as an 18 year old for

00:23:39.220 me to say, I'm not, I'm not going there. I'm not crying. And there, there probably is lines that,

00:23:44.420 you know, you have to decide if you want to face the repercussions in life, but you know, there's

00:23:50.820 that fixed me for for so far so good i'm on 47 48 whatever without without being back in the

00:23:57.360 back in the clink for the weekend stint with the judge trying to tell me you know shake his finger

00:24:04.520 what did you do i was with a bunch of kids um we went down to the movie store i rented my movies

00:24:11.260 i had an account blockbuster or whatever yeah i lived right down there and two of the kids i was

00:24:15.400 with stole two movies well of course i was driving didn't have a driver's license so

00:24:20.080 the kids they wanted to run and i said go ahead i'll tell them who you are just you just will

00:24:24.700 stay here the clerk comes out and i just put the truck in park and face the consequences

00:24:29.560 and i got my butt in a ringer over it because like the judge says you were here you were driving

00:24:35.080 yeah you shouldn't have been driving and you know the the officers were great and they said you know

00:24:40.920 we understand the situation and they they give me the old what for and i was like i'm done with this

00:24:47.080 like i'm i'm not gonna get in trouble ever again that's funny so it's one of those things in life

00:24:51.280 that's kind of uh i'm not ashamed of it it's one of the things you know part of life part of life

00:24:56.420 and the hell that i had raised and you know growing up in a wild household but uh yeah it was

00:25:04.420 it was a good example for me to for the judge to just say that's it never don't get in trouble

00:25:10.460 anymore i mean good for him because it seems like anymore judges are overly lenient right like i

00:25:17.320 remember so i don't think i've ever i might have ever shared this publicly but oh yeah so here we

00:25:24.880 go you got me this is a tell-all today when i was a kid i was probably i don't know 19 20 years old

00:25:31.720 uh we went over to a house party and i was definitely underage drinking for sure 0.99

00:25:37.240 and uh we saw the lights outside and the cops came and knocked on the door and some idiot 0.74

00:25:44.720 actually opened the door without a warrant for the cops i'm like you don't have to open the door 0.97

00:25:48.760 if the cops come calling by the way unless they have a warrant or they break in like you're not 0.97

00:25:53.620 obligated to open the door but some idiot did and um me and a buddy of mine we ran into the 0.98

00:26:01.700 garage and i've hid in a closet like not a great hiding spot there's like a little storage closet 0.99

00:26:07.880 in the garage right so the cops come in and they're like hey we know you're in there and and

00:26:14.560 i'm like i'm not i didn't say anything i'm like i'm not coming out like we know you're it like

00:26:18.080 we know you're in there like you literally know where to go it's not their first day yeah and um

00:26:24.140 so i'm like well like i mean they know i'm in here and then one of them said we're gonna get

00:26:30.180 the dog we're gonna go get the canine and that's gonna that's gonna be worse than it needs to be

00:26:34.780 root yeah and i was like all right so i opened the door and come out and there was a little bag of

00:26:39.840 of weed in the garage and it what it was not mine i know everybody says that but like truly like i

00:26:47.120 did i'm not i never was i never really like smoked weed right like i drank don't get me wrong i

00:26:52.280 drank so um yeah the cop just pinned it on me he's like oh it's possession of marijuana like

00:26:59.380 what are you talking about like it was wrong place wrong time exactly um and so you know i didn't get

00:27:05.820 arrested hey come on go go go lay down no right there lay down lay down good boy again this is

00:27:15.960 pretty raw today so it's perfect my dog's just chilling but i didn't get arrested they gave me

00:27:22.860 a ticket for underage drinking they gave me a ticket for a possession of marijuana charge a

00:27:27.280 small amount like it wasn't you know a big amount or whatever i paid like 1500 bucks and i'm like

00:27:32.280 that's the last time oh yeah i didn't have to go to jail or anything but i think just like having

00:27:38.040 consequences you know you don't have to throw the book at people but there has to be some sort of

00:27:41.920 consequences some some you know for young kids just some sort of wake-up call and i feel like

00:27:46.960 too many people um i i feel like in in the name of you know preserving ourselves we're robbing our

00:27:56.500 children of the benefit of their consequences for bad choices yeah and like i mean nobody wants to

00:28:02.760 see your kids of course not but at the same time it's like if you can keep them on the straight

00:28:09.160 and narrow then you don't have to worry about the consequences i mean you're you're going to get the

00:28:13.280 speeding tickets and the car wrecks and the stuff like that but you know i would prefer that my kids

00:28:19.860 avoided the weekend in jail yeah you know that'd be ideal it was not the best experience that i've

00:28:26.160 ever had and uh and then the dumber thing was there was people in there for dumber reasons i

00:28:31.740 was there like um unpaid parking tickets and all kinds of stuff and i'm just like oh man i'm a

00:28:37.780 criminal and i get in there and it's like people are in there for just ignoring a court date and

00:28:42.660 it's just it's it's just stacks on top of you know when you get into the court system

00:28:47.860 you know they might be lenient when you get to court but you have to show up to court yeah or

00:28:52.620 you're going to end up in jail and you know it was just an interesting perspective um i i may or

00:28:59.600 may not have been exposed to pointing of those opportunities to drink and do drugs and all that

00:29:04.940 stuff as a kid but i watched some of the examples the bad examples in life and i decided early on i

00:29:11.780 was like i'm i'm not going to do any of that and so i i was able to stay away from the drugs and

00:29:17.260 alcohol in the party party scene i was not that was that was a challenge for me as a kid for sure

00:29:22.920 so and i i think my outlet is um i love to country dance and it's actually where i met my wife is

00:29:31.740 country dance and oh really in saint george oh i didn't know that so then you know it kind of

00:29:36.440 transitioned into that was kind of one of my earlier jobs is is teaching dance okay and so we

00:29:42.480 would teach uh you know swing dance and line dance and you know all the couples different

00:29:49.500 dances like the cha-cha and the lariat waltz and just all those dances and so that kind of

00:29:55.300 kept me on the edge of you know i gotta be you know down to john's place on wednesday night to

00:30:01.320 teach couples dances and then i gotta do line dances thursday and then you know line dance

00:30:07.580 friday and saturday so i was four days of the week that i was you know from 7 30 to midnight or one

00:30:12.940 o'clock and then of course you got to go to denny's yeah of course cheese fries oh yeah with ranch and

00:30:17.740 i did that drunk by the way yeah like we're we both went to denny's but we had our different

00:30:22.480 vices it sounds like so i mean that's kind of that that dancing country music dance and um

00:30:28.100 john carter's dance hall in saint george there's lots of people that that remember those good old

00:30:34.240 days uh i think there's a new place in saint george yeah it's opening or something right

00:30:38.820 red rock swing or something is that what it is yeah yeah so you know dancing was a good outlet

00:30:43.720 for me after the whole it's interesting so okay so this is kind of a an interesting maybe angle

00:30:50.920 to this i mean you know but by all accounts we would say ah casey's a man's man like he's capable

00:30:56.160 he's got you love your you love your mules you know you love your your wagons you like you're

00:31:02.500 mechanic you're obviously very capable you're search and rescue like we would say any by any

00:31:07.980 objective measure we'd say oh it's a man's man but then you have this other side and i don't

00:31:12.240 think it's another side but i think it's not commonly looked at in the same lens where you

00:31:17.820 you sing you know you dance and so you have this artistry side to you that i think a lot of men

00:31:24.740 either we don't either either we we do and we don't talk about it or we don't because it's not

00:31:32.220 you know manly or whatever like it what that's kind of you don't you know what i'm getting out

00:31:36.800 here i'm kind of curious about that so i'll break the news to you i have 12 siblings you do and of

00:31:44.120 course i was stuck in the middle of five girls so i have a feminine side okay yeah fair yeah it was

00:31:51.020 groomed into you at an early age i'm not looking were they painting your nails and doing your hair

00:31:55.740 and trying to dress you up i'm not looking for the best dress or anything like that but i mean

00:32:01.040 my sisters, they, they were part of the crew. I mean, they obviously impacted me, you know,

00:32:06.400 who I am today growing up. Five girls stuck right in the middle of them. And, um, it was a 0.89

00:32:13.860 wonderful thing because like I say, we just as young kids, we'd always dance. Like my grandparents,

00:32:20.160 um, my grandpa was a heck of a musician and they would play for the band and they would do the

00:32:26.160 dances um he'd call out the square dances so even from a as a young kid i was exposed to the the

00:32:32.680 elite hall in cash valley um and we'd go square dancing and you better learn how to dance really

00:32:39.200 fast because the floor in the elite hall is suspended okay it bounces to the beat of the

00:32:44.860 music and the and the step of the dancer so if you get off you're it's like jumping on a trampoline

00:32:49.620 and the kids jump and knock your knees out from underneath you it's the same difference on the

00:32:53.480 dance floor. And so, you know, you say that, but, um, I guess more than anything, it's probably my

00:33:01.360 personality or personality disorders or whatever it might be. Um, OCD, whatever you want to call

00:33:08.460 it, whatever it is, is I, I have a lot of interest in so many different things. And I always tell

00:33:14.400 myself, I'm like, man, if I would just focus on one thing, I'd be good at something. So, I mean,

00:33:18.980 i've had i've had so many great experiences because i'm like if i want to check something

00:33:24.000 out in life i just go do it like i love dancing um i'm a vocal performer so i like i can sing

00:33:30.520 about i mean i prefer the classic country stuff yeah kind of my era of music and kind of what i

00:33:36.140 grew up with um but like there's no reason why not to experience new things like i love to dance

00:33:43.620 like and i love music like music is just healing it's good for everybody i mean but all the other

00:33:49.600 interests um like my mules and horses i pull authentic wagons we do commemorative tracks

00:33:55.440 um just stuff that interests me i just go full bore on it and figure it out and just go enjoy it

00:34:03.620 and if i don't like it i go do something else i mean it's just i think that's cool i i wish more

00:34:09.320 men would just give themselves a little bit more permission to explore because i think what ends

00:34:14.160 up happening is you have guys who are like you know they might have an interest for example you

00:34:19.280 know maybe it's search and rescue or like hunting has become a big part of my life for the past 10

00:34:23.560 years i haven't hunted my entire life right um you know and i'll ask people i'm like hey come

00:34:28.260 on a hunt with me and they've wanted to they're like just come with me they're like making excuses

00:34:33.140 yeah just everything's no and i'm like wait what if you just said yes and i think what happens for

00:34:38.120 a lot of guys is they're like well they at least they may not vocalize it but what they believe is

00:34:42.540 that if i if i dabble right if i try that thing then i'm committed to it it's like no you're not

00:34:48.800 committed you just try it and if you like it you take the next step and if you don't you take a

00:34:53.620 step back and that's fine too well and it's like you hear the saying um if you're 40 years old and

00:35:00.080 you don't have a barbecue or a sawmill i mean you got to try something new um i don't know

00:35:07.080 i i've had such a variety pack of i mean because i love the four-wheel yeah i mean i started uh

00:35:14.000 winter four before jamboree it's one of the biggest off-road events in utah in 2003 shelby

00:35:19.040 was in the car seat i mean it's it's just crazy how that has evolved and grown and um i've always

00:35:26.420 been part of the off-road jeep community in southern utah in the state of utah with land

00:35:32.260 use issues like all that stuff just kind of is things that affect me in my life so i've always

00:35:38.360 been involved with like anything motorized i love motorcycles you're not still a suzuki guy are you

00:35:43.420 oh yeah i still have that what is that what is that what is that all about i want to know

00:35:47.980 you got my son you like you you had an influence on my son and he that's his first vehicle like

00:35:53.300 don't buy that by example and he bought it and then sold it i'm like good and then he bought

00:35:57.160 a ranger and now now he drives your kids audi i'm like dude we got to get you away from the

00:36:02.200 loft houses suzuki's and volkswagens baby oh that's i said audi yeah it's a volkswagen

00:36:07.380 yeah um oh i love my toys too i mean like i say four wheelers 510 military trucks

00:36:14.420 um i got that's right snowcats snowmobiles fastball i mean whatever just just find the

00:36:20.720 weekend to go do it i just uh i have stuff becky calls it a collection but um yeah go out and just

00:36:28.820 go go try it go have fun go yeah i mean it's nothing for me i get a call on a thursday

00:36:35.020 afternoon for a guy that's got buffalo down in the grand canyon and he says hey i need some help

00:36:39.780 getting these two buffalo out on you know i got two hunters i'm like all right buffalo in the

00:36:44.700 grand canyon yeah they're all over down there really yeah i had no idea kaibab all that whole

00:36:49.960 yeah really look it up oh i didn't know it's pretty awesome

00:36:52.920 men real quick i'm going to pause i i hope you're enjoying the conversation i i have faith that you

00:36:59.540 are but i want to say something as we roll into q4 of 2026 i almost got the date wrong because

00:37:07.160 it's crazy that's 2026 regardless here's what i see every year guys just wait until january to

00:37:13.360 get serious about their lives which means that they literally write off 25 a quarter

00:37:19.200 of their entire year. It's 90 days that you're never going to get back. And I personally am

00:37:26.800 not willing to give that up. I'm not as productive in nine months as I would be in 12.

00:37:32.120 But inside of our brotherhood, we call it the Iron Council. And it's the council for a reason.

00:37:36.380 And it's iron for a reason. We're in there sharpening each other. And we're going into Q4

00:37:40.500 with a battle plan. Very clear targets for how you show up for your family, your health, your work,

00:37:46.400 your community, like Casey's been talking about today, broken down week by week, day by day,

00:37:52.240 task by task. A plan by itself isn't the thing that works though. The thing that works is having

00:37:59.240 a group of men, a band of men who know what you committed to and will call you out respectfully

00:38:08.220 when you start slipping. That's what real accountability is. It's the kind that Casey's

00:38:13.260 talked about where, you know, someone expects you to show up and actually follow through on what you

00:38:18.580 said you're going to do. So if you want this to be the best quarter you've ever had, not just

00:38:23.160 one you survive, get in now because this year isn't over yet. And I don't want you to write

00:38:28.860 off 90 days of your life. 90 days doesn't sound like a lot, but when you start thinking about it

00:38:33.120 in the context of 25% of your year, you could do some massive things this year. That's what I want

00:38:39.560 for you. That's what the men inside the iron council want for you. So join us today. The

00:38:44.440 year isn't over. So just don't, don't start acting like it is. Head to orderofman.com

00:38:50.860 slash iron council. That's orderofman.com slash iron council. And I will see you guys

00:38:56.720 inside. So they'll call you up and say, Hey, come pack us up.

00:39:02.520 Or Wednesday night. And I'll be out on the road at 5 a.m. in the morning with eight or

00:39:06.240 10 mules to go get a hunter off the back country or i mean i'm and do you go just do that like hey

00:39:12.040 this is fun or you're like cool it's a thousand bucks or like what i got i mean i'm not a guide

00:39:16.700 or an outfitter by no stretch of the imagination but it's like people that i know yeah um they're

00:39:21.700 always good to you know pay you for fuel and some time if you want but like i i'm not ever going to

00:39:26.740 go be an outfitter and go you know take tourists through to zion national park on saddle mules or

00:39:32.460 anything like that but right um i love to go haul a hunter up on the mountain or go retrieve an

00:39:38.060 animal or anything like that didn't you tell me a story about i don't remember when this was

00:39:44.020 you lost a mule i think on maybe a search and rescue i lost a mule on that buffalo

00:39:48.900 is that what it was what happened there well he he uh we had a blow up and we had a string of

00:39:55.080 mules together and they just scattered in the woodwork and the nice thing about a mule is

00:40:00.260 they'll usually always go back to the truck but it took him a while to find his way back i was just

00:40:05.180 you know hoping he didn't lose a pack or something but we lost him just about dark and he came

00:40:09.680 tromping into camp with we actually had three of them um but we ended up going and finding them um

00:40:17.220 the last one was caught up in a tree with the with the riggins but oh yeah the other the other

00:40:22.980 two that went missing they came back all on their own but but didn't you have one like fall off a

00:40:27.100 cliff or something um not not exactly we we've had them go off the trail and tumble to the bottom

00:40:33.900 before i thought you told me you lost one and it like fell off a cliff and he's lost a couple on

00:40:39.680 pine valley maybe that's what it was it was one of andy ballards oh man but yeah when you get out

00:40:45.860 in the back country and you're on these rough trails i mean you can lose animals yeah you know

00:40:51.140 but hey it's pretty dangerous sitting on the couch too so yeah i mean that's a good way to

00:40:56.500 look at risk you know a lot of people be like oh it's risky you know i could get hurt or i could

00:41:00.420 have a problem but nobody nobody thinks twice about getting in their truck and heading down

00:41:04.260 to the gas station for a red bull at two in the afternoon but there's still a risk profile with

00:41:08.200 that itself talk about make your heart flutter well i like red bull so but that's a risk i'm

00:41:13.620 willing to take for a red bull every now and again a little pick me up yeah a little jolt

00:41:17.560 but yeah but it is interesting because i don't think people we take risks every day but most

00:41:23.200 most of us don't even really consider that what we're doing has a risk profile to it

00:41:30.660 well and i kind of got ruined in my in my earlier days because i

00:41:35.520 i did search and rescue for a long time in washington county and so i can see how easy

00:41:42.200 it can go from being alive to being dead and so i i don't say i was paranoid but i was a little

00:41:49.800 more cautious like we'd always go canyoneering we we'd go through the park um do the big big

00:41:56.240 repels and canyoneering trips with the kids as much as we could and you know swimming and water

00:42:03.180 recreation is like you're not wearing a life jacket when you're recreating in the water you're

00:42:09.160 nuts because i mean from my perspective seeing it firsthand is you can be dead in a big hurry

00:42:16.140 in the water um and i'm paranoid i would say i am paranoid about water really i i don't want to

00:42:23.980 drown because i see how fast and how we i mean i've recovered 14 year old kids 10 feet from the

00:42:29.860 shore and nine feet of water i mean and you go over with the boat and you can look down there

00:42:34.600 and see them on the down on the bottom waiting for the divers and and they just i mean it makes

00:42:38.640 sucked in a bunch of water or they got cold under or what just didn't get back to shore you know

00:42:43.300 swimming too far overexerting yourself and so it's on my gosh i know about risk because in search

00:42:49.480 and rescue you see the results of risk management that you know people people didn't nobody wants

00:42:58.460 to go out and get killed while they're having fun but the thing is is if you go swimming in an area

00:43:04.300 you're unfamiliar with in cold water whatever it is like i i would say i am pretty cautious about

00:43:10.280 water activities just because if you don't have a life jacket on you get in trouble then

00:43:13.820 there's no you know you're not going to have bumps and bruises right you're dead you're dead

00:43:18.820 and so i kind of get really nervous about water activities there was a story uh i think it was

00:43:25.340 it wasn't this summer i think it was last summer it was up towards towards film or somewhere maybe

00:43:30.600 it's in delta at the res up there or whatever and yeah just a young young boy was i think he

00:43:37.760 was doing some tubing behind a boat right and uh the the rope got wrapped around him

00:43:44.240 and dragged him under the water right and his friends were trying to prop him up and hold him

00:43:49.760 up and they couldn't and you know he's a young he was like 11 12 years old if i remember right

00:43:56.100 and it's gone just on a weekend of having fun yeah and i think that's important too um risk

00:44:04.260 management is a thing it's i mean you don't want to let it ruin your life i mean but at the same

00:44:10.120 time you have to be super conscious of what the results are i mean you crash on a motorcycle it

00:44:14.880 hurts yeah you know and uh but pushing your limits to the when you crash on a motorcycle that you're

00:44:20.480 in the er for you know a month instead of a day you know there's just yeah i've got i've got a

00:44:29.660 uh a cousin but by previous marriage where he's out dirt biking hit a jump landed hit hit his chest

00:44:37.880 on the the handlebars yeah and it separated all of his rib his sternum from his ribs and pushed

00:44:43.220 into his chest yeah they had to pull it back up and staple it i don't even want to know what they

00:44:49.400 did but it's like well that's that's one thing i've we go back to our kids is i love it to get

00:44:55.020 our kids out there on motorbikes four-wheeling jeep and you name it um but risk management's

00:45:01.080 important making sure your kids i mean i i tell lincoln all the time i'm like you know you're at

00:45:06.280 that point in your life where if you can make it past the next three or four years you're free

00:45:10.140 sailing you know yeah right you'd be you should be all right but right now you're you're at that 1.00

00:45:14.580 stage in your life and that age in your life like wear your seat belt don't be stupid you know i 0.99

00:45:19.220 talk to my kids about risk management and they tell me that i'm paranoid and i'm like no just 1.00

00:45:24.460 put your damn life jacket on when you're when you're at the lake on your your longboard or 0.98

00:45:29.000 whatever it is and um don't don't think that you're a better swimmer than you are and don't 1.00

00:45:35.500 think that you're a sissy because you put a life jacket on like just put a life jacket on or a 0.80

00:45:39.220 helmet or a seat belt or a seat belt all of those things yeah so yeah risk management i wouldn't

00:45:44.600 mind dying an old man but i'm not gonna ruin my life worrying about how i'm going out of here

00:45:49.880 either if i yeah you know i've always i've kind of joked around and said you know the best way to

00:45:54.600 go would be in a fight with a grizzly bear um not that i would want that but like if i get to choose

00:46:00.500 but i'm also going to try to avoid getting eaten by a grizzly bear you betcha yeah so

00:46:06.840 just go out and have fun i say i mean i i do all types of things um both i mean social i mean

00:46:15.380 work's fun. I have a good time at work and we, we, uh, I don't say it's a party every day, but

00:46:21.280 we just have a good time with each other. And we have, you know, we joke around and have fun and,

00:46:26.480 um, work hard so that we can take those holidays off or the long weekends and

00:46:31.380 just, just go live it and enjoy. I mean, try a new hobby. When I was a kid, I loved tying flies.

00:46:38.820 Oh, I wasn't much of a fisherman, but I love tying flies. And I mean, my dad is kind of the

00:46:44.300 same way I mean he's he's into ham radio so of course I got to try ham radio yeah and so that

00:46:49.960 got me in one of those civic groups as a young man and I got an honorary lifetime membership in

00:46:58.200 the Dixie Amateur Radio Club because I helped him set up their whole new repeater system and

00:47:02.200 oh really years on their board and just helping with all their project and you know some of those

00:47:07.000 it's not that big of a deal but it's just one of those little rewards that I told you earlier that

00:47:12.220 you you get those rewards in life for just being part of that stuff and even now i love ham radio

00:47:19.040 they're gearing up to do this uh the saint george marathon yeah and they're in charge of all this

00:47:25.440 uh emergency supplies all the aid station supplies the shuttles and they coordinate that on all these

00:47:31.940 radio frequencies that and repeater systems that 20 years ago i helped set up well that's cool

00:47:38.440 they're upgrading them and do sure yeah of course so i got involved with it because the new president

00:47:43.320 called me and he says hey i need some money i'm like all right let me make some calls so of course

00:47:47.620 i call the utah four-wheel drive association and i call desert roads and trails and i you know make

00:47:54.040 a bunch of calls to these civic organizations that are non-profits and i say hey the hammer

00:47:58.660 leader club's working on this and they need 20 000 bucks so whatever it was i think i raised

00:48:03.560 fifteen thousand bucks and three phone calls to these others is that right it's just because you

00:48:08.380 were involved with them in the past and so i mean so many interests so many i mean and not enough

00:48:15.380 time i'd love to do more with ham radio and um but all of those little interests that i have i'd say

00:48:21.980 just go give it a whirl give it a try try something new um you meet new people i mean some of my best

00:48:29.260 friends i met through the whole mules and horses you know to this day some of my very best friends

00:48:35.460 um i met through that i met you know some other friends through search and rescue that i mean we

00:48:43.040 talk every day and so all of those have a time and a place in your life when you're you know when

00:48:49.780 you're available just go do it being part of a rotary club or a lion's club or whatever and you

00:48:56.200 just meet so many people and all of those people that you meet you know you you may not recognize

00:49:02.000 it that day but you know years later you're running each other in business and you have

00:49:06.840 a business relationship and you're sending work back and forth so it's like i've noticed in my

00:49:12.900 life when i when i encounter people that are you kind of know like your first few times you meet 0.87

00:49:19.640 them like you can the older you get the more you can kind of cut through the bullshit yeah no doubt

00:49:24.620 You can tell whether somebody's, you know, worthy of your time or your business and whatever it is.

00:49:30.720 And some of those are the best because you just, you have this common respect for each other.

00:49:38.540 You know, I benefited, you know, because of my involvement with fundraiser with the police department.

00:49:44.260 And they bring vehicles in for maintenance.

00:49:47.640 You know, whether that's quid pro quo or whatever you want to call it.

00:49:50.500 It's just knowing people.

00:49:52.100 It's just business.

00:49:53.180 Right.

00:49:53.300 It's just life.

00:49:54.120 And so that's kind of an interesting thing that I've started to recognize in my life is all those relationships that you, even if it's just an encounter with somebody for a few minutes or once or twice, you see him several years later and you both made an impact on each other and you see each other and you say, hey, it's like we, it was yesterday we met, you know, and it's been 10 years or whatever it is.

00:50:19.920 and so that those are kind of some neat little things i mean

00:50:23.160 look i mentioned some of those jobs that we go do with the mules and you you go out there and you

00:50:29.440 have one of those experiences with a with a guide or or whatever and you have this relationship and

00:50:35.780 he's so appreciative he's like he just randomly touches base with you hey what are you doing and

00:50:41.140 i don't need you but you know how is life how's things and we're passing through do you want to

00:50:45.200 grab dinner and so just those little chance encounters that you get with people that years

00:50:50.900 later it's it's kind of rewarding to kind of have those connections yeah you just don't know i think

00:50:56.960 also one of the things you know as i was thinking about because we've been trying to set this up for

00:51:01.780 a couple weeks now two three weeks now um i think one of the things i appreciate about you is you're

00:51:08.840 one of those men in the community who as much as I feel the way about needing help or you know

00:51:15.840 needing something you'd be there I'm sure there's a thousand plus people that would describe you the

00:51:22.640 same way and I think that's really important for men who might listen to this podcast to understand

00:51:28.800 is you know we we spend a lot of time trying to be impressive and trying to like make our dent in

00:51:35.160 the world or whatever right and i think you're somebody i i want to tell you i admire you because

00:51:40.540 you're somebody in the community who you know you care about people um you want to help people you

00:51:46.920 want to serve and and everybody knows you for that and and you know like are you globally known are

00:51:53.460 you world no but you know what there's 10 000 people here who are like no casey's a big part

00:51:59.140 of the community and we we have personally benefited from the way he's shown up in our life

00:52:05.440 and i wish more men understood that yeah well and i appreciate you saying that because i i have

00:52:10.120 really strived to i mean i don't always do it but i mean i try to treat people with kindness

00:52:17.900 i have so many opportunities in my line of work to help somebody

00:52:22.700 and you know you can say no you can draw the line you can have your limits

00:52:28.720 um but you know it really is rewarding to have you know people like i mean especially you just

00:52:35.440 to tell me that to my face because you don't always hear it i mean people tell you things but

00:52:39.660 you know i think that one thing that's helped me a lot is i i have people in my life that

00:52:48.120 have helped me and they just randomly call out of the blue hey what are you doing or just even a

00:52:55.080 text like and so if i'm driving down the road and i think oh i need to call sean and see what he's

00:53:01.380 up to and then an hour and a half later you're still bsing with him on the phone you just haven't

00:53:06.120 talked for a while and and so it's it's definitely been rewarding like you say in a small town i've

00:53:11.860 tried to treat people with kindness um one thing that i do that i don't tell very many people and

00:53:18.760 maybe i shouldn't tell them right now but i now everybody's gonna know your tricks man no um

00:53:24.260 when i go through the drive up at wendy's very rarely do i not buy the food for the guy that's

00:53:31.200 behind me and it's just one of those things that i started doing one day as a joke and

00:53:36.400 it turned into a routine and so becky will look at my credit card receipt and say where did you

00:53:40.860 go to wendy's or how many i'm just gonna start following you around he's going to wendy's right

00:53:45.380 now i'm gonna follow you and pull in behind you yeah so i i finally had to start paying with cash

00:53:50.620 a good question at home but you know i i have been tremendously blessed in my life as far as

00:53:57.540 um family and friends and um business i've just had some great opportunities and even more so that

00:54:06.580 is the opportunity to serve people like you say there's there may be some something to be said

00:54:13.720 for i don't i don't necessarily i don't want to disappoint people but i'm just me like i want to

00:54:22.840 be my genuine self i want to be authentic i want to be you know what i portray when you come stop

00:54:29.720 by my shop to say hi i get that a lot people just swing in the shop yeah i should have a coffee pot

00:54:34.540 and a pop machine and more chairs because it's kind of like the social hub of those yeah it's

00:54:39.340 like old when old yeah old timers used to do it around the barber shop or something at the

00:54:43.400 barber shop and so it it's kind of fun to just have those people coming in and just rotating

00:54:49.860 through and like it is it's been rewarding over the years to have a business in hurricane and have

00:54:54.800 just that small town camaraderie just to be able to you know be in a position to help people if

00:55:02.860 they need it i don't i could always charge a little more or or i could you know what i'm saying

00:55:07.800 yeah yeah like um but that's that's common right now it's like i gotta go out and get mine

00:55:13.200 and you know to a degree sure you got to put food on the table and roof over your head

00:55:17.120 but like i mean i have i have guys that'll call me i had a guy today um i don't know who he is

00:55:22.360 he just messaged me and i could tell in his message he sent on instagram he's in a desperate

00:55:26.720 spot man his wife's like hey i want a divorce and he's suicidal and i'm like call me yeah i have no

00:55:32.960 idea who this guy is i'm like dude call me here's my phone number just call me yeah or just giving

00:55:38.440 out my personal you know email or but yeah and that's what we should do that's what you should

00:55:43.760 do and i i will say i did the youtube thing for quite a while with the casey's off-road recovery

00:55:49.820 um it was a great time i still do recovery and and off-road towing and i have my shop i mean i've got

00:55:56.020 multiple streams of income i make a little money singing i mean whatever you can do to make a

00:56:01.320 couple bucks here and there but there's also when people are like that and you have that you know

00:56:07.900 public you're a public figure basically in your community whether however small that is to around

00:56:15.100 the world or around the united states whatever your your impact is to those people is you should

00:56:21.100 definitely should make yourself available i mean you're not a mental health counselor i'm not yeah

00:56:25.960 but there's many times where people random people have reached out to me that were struggling

00:56:30.780 you know mentally and maybe suicidal thoughts stuff like that struggling with finances and

00:56:38.180 personal relationships and there's like you say many times where i don't know who these people

00:56:43.440 are from the man in the moon and they'll reach out in a message and so you always wonder like

00:56:49.420 what you know what should my interaction be here but it's always like kindness and support you know

00:56:54.420 don't you don't like need to get like personally in invested in it sure yeah at the same time

00:57:02.960 like these people are reaching out because they don't know where else to go um and i've had lots

00:57:07.740 of those i mean facebook messages pop up yeah just random people um and conversations open

00:57:15.400 because of a similar circumstance you found yourself in earlier and they you reach out to

00:57:20.860 them or they reach out to you and you have a nice little interaction and and so that can be a positive

00:57:25.780 side of the social media thing and having you know having set the example for somebody having

00:57:31.300 in your community but yeah that's a that's an interesting aspect of that is just because you

00:57:37.400 don't know who as you go about your day-to-day life doing your podcasts and i go about my day-to-day

00:57:42.400 life um who who you're impacting who's who's watching you as an example um you just never

00:57:50.060 know how many people i mean the word goes back to you know a kind word and a smile can make

00:57:56.420 somebody's day because you don't know what they're going through i had a situation it wasn't too long

00:58:01.700 ago where i was at a restaurant and a like a server was kind of being rude or like it was

00:58:08.980 some it was it was weird it was a very strange scenario and then got my food order wrong or

00:58:13.140 whatever and in a moment of in a moment of divine intervention i think i was like you know what i'm

00:58:20.700 just gonna be kind to this person instead of being a dick right like i don't know what she's going

00:58:24.500 through she's having a bad day or you know maybe she's got a kid who's sick or her husband's a 0.99

00:58:29.920 jerk i don't know i have no idea and so i just decided to be a decent normal human being and 0.97

00:58:36.500 i was on my way out and somebody's like hey ryan and i didn't know who it was or hey ryan

00:58:41.780 and i turned around they're like hey uh i don't we don't know each other but i listened to your

00:58:47.220 podcast and this was a guy who's sitting behind me in the restaurant and he's like i just wanted

00:58:53.100 to tell you i thought it was pretty cool how you handled that yeah and i was like oh shit well 0.74

00:58:58.200 yeah people are watching and i was like i'm glad i was not an asshole to that person not not only 0.94

00:59:04.320 because she didn't deserve it but also because there are eyes on you as a as a leader in your

00:59:09.480 community as a leader in your family like there's always eyes on you well and if i say right one

00:59:15.100 more time to write um it's the truth like if you put yourself out there you have expectations like

00:59:24.580 and that's what i go back to the being your genuine authentic self i mean everybody is more

00:59:32.580 than capable of losing their cool and of course yeah but if you're a little more engaged in your

00:59:39.660 response i mean i've i've been in a situation where i've made an ass out of myself yeah and 0.95

00:59:44.860 i look back on it going well that was pretty stupid you know and have to apologize as we went

00:59:50.340 back to that um but there's always those times where you can you recognize that and you can make 0.89

00:59:57.580 a difference by leaving her a little better tip writing her a note or whatever it is like you can

01:00:04.280 be thoughtful and you can you can impact her life and i've had those circumstances where i may have

01:00:10.420 been being a smart aleck when i bought the meal for the table next door that was making fun of

01:00:17.240 my kids you know and i left them a little note said you know i could hear them talking calling

01:00:22.360 us the homeless family really so i bought their meal and then i wrote from the homeless family

01:00:26.600 on the ticket and had the, you know, those types of things. I mean, like all in good fun, but I

01:00:31.920 think that those parents who were enabling their kids and, and, you know, like condoning the

01:00:37.240 behavior by participating in it, like, I think they got the message. Yeah. Like the people that

01:00:43.120 were sitting behind you that we were making fun of can afford to buy your meal. And we've been

01:00:47.500 out working all day long. My kids right by my side, helping some elderly lady with her lawn

01:00:53.480 and our yard and our cleanup yet we go to the store and you're sitting behind me in your

01:00:58.200 your penny loafers and your suit coat making fun of us because we're dirty and we're the homeless

01:01:03.900 family you know and and i heard it going on behind me so i bought their dinner and then you know i

01:01:08.340 kind of laughed about it as i seen the waitress bring their ticket out you know and it so those

01:01:13.680 types of things i mean yeah maybe i shouldn't have done that but it was better than going over there

01:01:18.220 and bumping into the dad's chair and wanting to fight.

01:01:20.420 Yeah, I was going to say, like getting physical, right?

01:01:22.240 Yeah, so those types of things, I mean, you have fun with that,

01:01:26.180 but it's better than making a scene in the store by calling them out.

01:01:31.580 Yeah, come here.

01:01:34.140 Yeah, you definitely need to set the example by.

01:01:40.180 Yeah, I think so.

01:01:41.700 Again, I just think of so many guys out there who are like,

01:01:44.560 oh, I'm going to post all this stuff on social media,

01:01:46.820 but it's like do you know your neighbor yeah you know like my neighbor i got some mail today sent

01:01:54.300 sent here to the house hey if you guys don't know my dogs hey go go upstairs take a hike

01:02:02.440 um like do you know your neighbor you know i i had some mail delivered it's my neighbors

01:02:09.320 it's an amazon package i didn't even look at the name i just opened it because it's sitting

01:02:13.160 of my doorstep like what did i buy it was like an amazon fire stick or something i'm like oh that

01:02:17.700 amazon that's a terrible place i'm like i didn't buy this and i'm like oh it's my neighbors and

01:02:24.020 you know i know her yeah like she has she literally has a key to my house you know your new neighbor

01:02:28.520 my new neighbor your new neighbor where my daughter just moved in down the street from

01:02:33.780 you didn't even know i didn't know i'm like blowing my case right now so like she my she

01:02:41.340 literally has a key to my house yeah i'm like hey if you know if i'm out of town i'm like hey will

01:02:46.420 you keep an eye on the dog or hey if uh i might have some extra food if i'm going out of town i'm

01:02:50.880 like hey do you need you need some food or whatever like that is way more meaningful than

01:02:56.680 the dent we're trying to make on social media and be famous and all that kind of stuff social media

01:03:03.480 it's an interesting place um when you're writing your own story you can you can paint a pretty

01:03:09.640 picture yeah and we can fool ourselves easily yeah you can fool yourselves into thinking that

01:03:14.940 you're more important than you are you're living a fake narrative whatever you want to whatever you

01:03:19.520 want to translate that into um be your true authentic self i mean don't just post the

01:03:25.880 the sunshine pictures and and the flowers blooming and everything's honky dory you know if you're

01:03:31.460 if you're gonna if you're gonna put yourself out there on the public forum like you get what you

01:03:38.660 get like this is this is who i am and that was with the youtube thing filming what i do yeah

01:03:44.240 there there's no props there's no bullshit it's just filming what i do this is who i am you get

01:03:51.100 what you get um i'm always excited to get a text from you because i know it's um you sent me a 0.99

01:03:57.040 message the other day last week or whenever it was and i don't know some some idiot you know and 0.99

01:04:02.320 i could have very well been the same idiot and i have been at times but you know went through this 1.00

01:04:06.280 big mud bog and just is buried up to his wheel wells and mud and you're like check this out i'm 0.99

01:04:11.840 like and we laugh about it you know but well and i'm not i'm not ever there to judge or make them

01:04:17.040 no any less i'm just there to do my job but i don't mind taking a picture and sharing it with

01:04:21.740 other people and having a good laugh because uh one of my things i always tell people when they're

01:04:27.320 in a bad situation it doesn't matter if they're stuck or broke down i'm like you know this is all

01:04:31.340 just part of the adventure yep this is all going down they're on vacation they just think their

01:04:35.860 vacation's completely ruined and then wouldn't you know it they it's me that they shows up in

01:04:42.340 the tow truck and i take him to vegas or do whatever they need to do yeah you know i've 1.00

01:04:45.980 had the weird circumstances a time or two where this lady she's like man i'd sure love the mules

01:04:51.540 and her husband's like those mules are pretty cool and and they're like you know talking about

01:04:56.620 it and then the next time they came out to visit they called me and says hey would you take us on

01:05:00.400 a mule ride really like that's cool just random yeah and they're like will you take us on a mule

01:05:05.140 ride my husband would love to go on a meal ride i'm like sure so i said meet me up at the rodeo

01:05:10.380 grounds and we'll go off the river we'll go do a little loop through confluence park yeah and so

01:05:15.000 it's just kind of funny how how you make those connections but it's cool like i so last year i

01:05:20.740 was driving the old way the the new way out to to st george the back way and i drove by san hollow

01:05:27.420 and i'm driving and i see this i look over to the side and i know you do a lot of work out there

01:05:32.320 because people get stuck all the time all the time so i'm driving down the road and i look off

01:05:36.640 about 20 yards off the highway and there is a truck that's obviously stuck and it's a it's a

01:05:41.580 husband and wife i assumed and i just drove by and i get like 20 you know 50 100 yards down the road 0.99

01:05:51.000 i'm like and god's like hey idiot like you might be a little late to what you're doing but you 0.98

01:05:57.520 probably should turn around and help them yeah so i'm like ah fine oh you definitely want to 0.99

01:06:02.300 follow those intuitions oh for sure so i turn around i pull over the guy walks up like looks

01:06:08.180 like you're stuck he's like yeah i keep a toe strap in my truck i'm like let's just hook the

01:06:12.140 toe strap up hooked it up and pulled it out you know it took me 20 minutes and i could hear the

01:06:18.740 wife she's on the phone she's like yeah we're uh we're just we're stuck we're on our way we're

01:06:24.080 just running late somebody helped somebody pulled over and is helping us or whatever

01:06:26.840 um and so we get him pulled out get him on the side of the road and he comes up and he shakes

01:06:33.380 my hand but when he shakes my hand he's got a 20 bill in his hand and i'm like oh no no yeah

01:06:38.280 he's like no really like i said no no i don't i don't need that i said what are you guys doing

01:06:43.940 he's like oh my daughter's um having her baby and we're trying to get out there we're stuck in this

01:06:49.980 and we're stuck yeah and he's like i owe you like i owe you something i'm like you know just

01:06:54.920 maybe if you see somebody stuck or if you see me stuck tomorrow or something like just help like

01:07:02.820 yeah i don't need i don't want your 20 dollars i just like because i actually get something from

01:07:07.080 that too there's this like this this this thing of altruism of just helping people is good but

01:07:12.880 it actually is it feels good there's benefit to us there's mentally physical benefits from being

01:07:19.620 a giving person um you can you can dip into the scriptures just a little bit but they always say

01:07:26.660 that when you're in the service of your fellow man you're in the service of your god like they

01:07:31.400 it it truly is like the most rewarding thing is to serve your fellow man like whatever capacity

01:07:37.820 whatever skill set um the times in my life where i've been the happiest and is when i'm serving

01:07:45.240 somebody else and even even to the point if you're getting paid to do it it doesn't matter

01:07:50.140 if you're if you're in the service of somebody and you're doing what you need to help to get

01:07:54.880 them out of a situation to tell them to fix their car to you know talk to them be kind to them that

01:08:00.940 that's all a form of service like your day-to-day interactions just like you say in the restaurant

01:08:06.680 you could have ruined her whole day or made it worse totally and you you chose to be a good

01:08:12.400 decent person well for every one story i have like that i've got oh i'm sure we all do well i'm sure

01:08:19.000 we all do but you you want to recognize and take that accountability and recognize that hey

01:08:24.860 that i didn't feel so good when i acted like this but now i'm over here and turn the coin over and 0.94

01:08:33.240 i was able to help this family i felt a lot better helping them instead of being a jerk to somebody

01:08:39.340 in a restaurant or an order and yeah we're probably all guilty of being short tempered and

01:08:44.540 and you know upsetting people but i think that if you recognize the difference in how you feel

01:08:51.320 when you help somebody versus when you ruin their day it's dynamically different yeah do you ever

01:08:59.440 feel like do you ever feel like it's at your own expense and you know how do you how do you find

01:09:08.220 the balance to make sure you know you're not i mean i don't even know what i'm necessarily

01:09:14.480 that you're not like burning yourself out that you're not killing yourself that you're able to

01:09:21.220 maintain and uphold other responsibilities for well that's where that's where you need to learn

01:09:26.440 how to say no you have to have your limits mentioned that earlier um i mean yeah there's

01:09:32.040 been times where search and rescue search and rescue was never convenient i'm sure yeah birthday

01:09:39.280 parties anniversaries you name it it was never a convenient time to go save somebody's life or to

01:09:45.580 recover a body or to whatever the case might be but you have to i did it i did my time and then i

01:09:54.580 got out and i think all things in life probably have an expiration date as you age maybe you're

01:10:03.700 not you know you're not hiking to the top of pine valley with a 90 pound pack yeah um i don't know

01:10:09.820 if i've ever done that oh it's let alone like reached my prime i've never done that but i think

01:10:17.020 finding that balance is an important thing in all things you do um and you're gonna notice i mean i

01:10:23.240 did when the kids were all in sports you didn't have time for anything yeah so you're at baseball

01:10:30.600 games you're at lacrosse games you're at dance and all of those things are your priorities and say

01:10:38.260 somebody calls in the middle of that well i'm not available till later or have somebody else

01:10:42.740 come and help you so managing all that and then all of a sudden you're like me you're an empty

01:10:48.320 nester and you're going what the hell am i going to do with all this time so it's like well maybe

01:10:52.920 i should go to the sons of the utah pioneers luncheon on tuesday or go to their dinner or

01:10:57.920 go to their saturday activity or you know go i go work at the farm or run you know whatever but

01:11:05.680 yeah it's like you're gonna have those transitions in life where it's like wow i'm an empty nester

01:11:11.040 how am i gonna fill my time and it just kind of naturally abs and flows takes care of itself i

01:11:17.540 mean that's a good point i mean i remember and you know this i was i mean i coached your son

01:11:21.440 and baseball and i love that i love coaching um and then there just came a point in time where our

01:11:27.740 where our boys just exceeded my capabilities as a coach i'm like i can't i you guys have

01:11:34.800 graduated past my coaching ability so my time here is done yeah and that was a good that was

01:11:41.340 good like i enjoyed it and it was also good when it was done like cool now i can focus on something

01:11:45.260 else and you'll see that like you don't necessarily have to worry about and i think

01:11:49.540 it's kind of hard i raised honeybees commercially for a lot of years

01:11:54.340 um sold a great product in honey and pollen and all this you came you came to my house

01:12:00.020 years ago and grabbed like a rogue hive or something i remember that i do and i did a lot

01:12:06.860 of that stuff and then it just became a time to where i was like i was tired of lifting 90 pound

01:12:10.960 boxes i was tired of the losses i was tired of the getting stung i had a few allergic reactions

01:12:16.260 And then, you know, you just hang it up and that's it.

01:12:20.740 I still have people all the time.

01:12:22.080 Do you still have honey?

01:12:22.840 Can you get honey?

01:12:23.680 Yeah, you had one before we started the broadcast.

01:12:25.800 Yeah, exactly.

01:12:26.060 And so, do you want to come gather this swarm?

01:12:29.540 Nope, I'm over it.

01:12:30.380 I mean, I've been doing it since I was this tall.

01:12:32.340 My dad was into honeybees.

01:12:33.420 So, like I said, naturally, I'm into honeybees.

01:12:36.600 I grew up around it.

01:12:37.740 I got exposed to it at an early age.

01:12:39.280 And so, all of those hobbies, you know, I hope my kids want to do a little farming when they get a little older.

01:12:44.940 and they've, you know, survived their 20s and 30s

01:12:49.020 and they can have a couple cows around or chickens.

01:12:53.080 And so all the things that you do as raising your kids

01:12:57.380 are probably stuff your kids will be interested in,

01:12:59.320 growing plants, growing a garden, all that type of stuff.

01:13:01.980 Hunting, whatever it is.

01:13:03.360 Well, I've got three boys and a girl,

01:13:05.500 but one of my boys is, he doesn't like hunting.

01:13:09.040 I said, do you want to hunt?

01:13:10.260 And he's like, no.

01:13:11.420 I'm like, why?

01:13:11.880 he's like dad i don't like being cold i don't like being tired and i don't like being bored

01:13:18.280 i'm like those are legitimate reasons not to enjoy hunting because you're going to be all

01:13:24.040 three of those most of the time you're going to dedicate and do anything other than road hunting

01:13:30.140 you're definitely going to get all of that but yeah but my old brecken and um my youngest now

01:13:35.860 they're brecken's more of an avid he's better hunter than i am yeah um well you're definitely

01:13:41.780 want your kids to be better than you and excel and i absolutely do the boys they laugh they're

01:13:46.960 like dude i can beat you to whatever and i usually say no you can't but in the my heart of hearts i'm

01:13:52.560 like i hope you can like i want you to be able to be beat me at relationships and money making and

01:14:01.280 careers and hobbit like i want you to beat me at all of it but i still want to give you a run for

01:14:07.360 your money yeah oh yeah well lincoln grabbed ahold of me the other day and they about whipped me oh

01:14:12.780 i know just they're they're stout it's down boys yeah it's great brecken does the same and and my

01:14:19.780 second eli will do the same thing he's you know he came over the other day and he's like he just

01:14:24.780 took his shirt off and he just started flexing like what are you doing and he and i'm like well

01:14:30.280 i'm gonna take my shirt so i took my shirt off and we're sitting in the mirror flexing i'm like

01:14:33.620 i'm about to get whipped bigger than me he's got like abs and bigger biceps in me he's

01:14:39.900 he's not even 16 yet i'm like what is happening right now yeah it's crazy it was such a trip

01:14:46.140 raising kids i'll tell you so what's the next journey for you like what's the next chapter

01:14:51.600 where you're an empty master now i don't know i'm kind of getting tired of the shop i'm uh

01:14:56.700 i'm there every day and like i say there's just so much going on i i kind of probably just the

01:15:03.060 status quo just keep chasing my passions and keep uh like i say i'll fly by the seat of my pants i'm

01:15:11.140 ready to just go on an adventure whatever it is if it's a four-wheeling trip or a you know a mule

01:15:18.180 ride or a we have a couple wagon trips coming up for the livestock festival and yeah a few things

01:15:23.920 like that that we always try to do and you know the normal stuff weddings and all the adventures

01:15:31.060 just live it just live in life just live in life burning fuel now i'll tell you

01:15:36.120 i'll do it now it's wait till after the midterms it'll go down that's been rough or maybe during

01:15:44.020 the midterms it should go down but it hasn't seemed to but it hasn't seemed to it's uh running

01:15:48.960 a towing company with fuel prices high oh yeah it's it's been pretty brutal but it's it kind of

01:15:55.600 just pay attention you know it'll be fine it'll pass but yeah it's probably just uh chase life

01:16:02.560 keep keep having fun i've uh i got plenty to do yeah i think well casey i appreciate you man i

01:16:12.540 i've been looking forward to having you over and i know i've been dragging my feet we needed to get

01:16:16.200 this situation arranged well it looks pretty good it looks good for now it's we got some more work

01:16:22.300 to do clearly we kind of put that to the test today but i just i want to tell you man i appreciate

01:16:26.820 you you've been a good friend for what's it been 15 years yeah maybe longer um but no you've been

01:16:34.720 a good friend to me you've been a good friend of my family and i just i really appreciate you and

01:16:39.000 i thought this would be a cool conversation because i just think there's so many guys who

01:16:43.220 just overlook their own abilities because you know maybe they don't feel great about themselves

01:16:48.600 or I don't feel like they're making that dent, I'm like, man, you can be so instrumental in

01:16:53.960 people's lives. And I hope you know, you are in mine and I know you are in a lot of other people's

01:16:58.400 lives as well. So I just wanted to tell you that. Well, and I appreciate the invite and all the

01:17:03.740 kind words. I definitely do strive to be a good example for everyone and try to be the best

01:17:11.280 version of myself. And it really has been a lot of fun raising my family in Hurricane and being

01:17:17.540 involved in all aspects of the community i've just had so much fun and um i love hurricane i love i

01:17:24.900 love the community it's uh it's definitely been a rewarding opportunity to be part of it and like

01:17:32.300 say i i hope that people will kind of take things that i said with uh you know positive not criticism

01:17:40.400 but just positive you know insight into my life and what's worked for me yeah um go be your best

01:17:46.800 version of yourself versus trying to be somebody else i don't i don't think that you need to be a

01:17:52.560 copycat but you want to be a true authentic person and be thoughtful in your day-to-day life have

01:17:59.760 integrity and honesty and i think that you'll be blessed for all the time that you put back into

01:18:05.480 your community and your fellow man and it's uh it's just been a lot of fun just yeah talking

01:18:11.740 about it and and so i kind of put it in perspective for me too to just kind of look over the years

01:18:17.160 i've been thinking about it right i've had a few opportunities you know with podcasts here and

01:18:21.600 there but i found out that the podcast is the weird thing because you can have a good voice

01:18:26.960 for radio and you can have a good face and a voice for tv but you kind of you know you mix the two

01:18:32.920 together and i get kind of confused it's uh it's interesting it's been a crazy journey over the past

01:18:39.060 11 or 12 years but well yeah almost 12 years now but it's been awesome i was gonna say too one of

01:18:45.040 like one of my favorite things is going to a parade in town like whether it's peach days or

01:18:50.100 fourth of july or whatever and seeing you and your family and the and the mules and your wagons like

01:18:55.700 that's my that's my favorite i love i love that i love when you come by and man it's really cool

01:19:01.340 anyways um if guys want to learn more about you know what you're up to with the towing or whatever

01:19:06.180 else you got going on would you want to direct them anywhere um yeah so i uh i still have my

01:19:11.300 youtube channel up and running it's casey's off-road recovery i think i've had it since 2007

01:19:15.960 so it's been it's been up and going for quite a while there's several hundred videos on there

01:19:20.380 um i think most everyone in town kind of knows me for casey loft house but i i run winterton

01:19:27.620 automotive towing um as well as casey's auto repair and so i run three businesses yeah and

01:19:35.180 And so if you want to check me out online, we have Google listings and website and all that stuff.

01:19:39.760 But I just have a great time in life.

01:19:42.600 And like I said, I've been abundantly blessed with all of it.

01:19:45.820 And so you want to holler, stop by when you're in town.

01:19:49.380 I get lots of people still from the YouTube channel coming by to say hi.

01:19:52.500 That's cool.

01:19:53.260 Yeah, it's a lot of fun.

01:19:54.300 I meet people from all walks of life.

01:19:55.780 You know, some of the old timers are the most rewarding because they can't get off the couch. 0.96

01:20:01.120 they they're kind of they're they're kind of stuck in their wheelchair or whatever you know 0.99

01:20:05.200 they they were veterans they served the country they you know they're just old-timers but they

01:20:09.560 they kind of live through my land so to speak and so you guys want to check any of that stuff out

01:20:15.180 you sure can and uh i appreciate the opportunity to get on and chat about life and my perspective and

01:20:21.300 kind of just have that opportunity it was fun now i appreciate it thanks brother you bet

01:20:28.140 All right, man, Mr. Casey Lofthouse, so honored that he was the first one to come into this new and improved, updated studio.

01:20:36.560 I love having conversations with Casey.

01:20:39.140 He's been a friend for decades at this point, but he's somebody who is like us, somebody who wants to do good, who wants to be a good source of influence and good in the community.

01:20:51.480 and somebody I think all of us resonate deeply with,

01:20:54.820 even though he's a little bit more involved than 99.9% of us.

01:21:01.920 But I love this guy and I was glad to have him on.

01:21:04.060 So make sure you check out his YouTube channel

01:21:05.880 over at Casey's Off-Road Recovery.

01:21:08.160 And then of course, if you're in Southern Utah,

01:21:09.720 you can look him up.

01:21:10.400 He talked about doing a mule drive for a random couple.

01:21:15.220 I don't know if he makes that available to everybody,

01:21:17.160 but if he does end up saving your life

01:21:19.580 in zion national park or the high desert of southern utah uh just make sure you know he

01:21:26.420 knows you appreciate him because he does he does great work so anyway guys i hope you enjoyed the

01:21:33.000 conversation um make sure to connect with him take a screenshot tag casey's off-road recovery tag

01:21:38.560 myself and uh let other men know what you're listening to and where you're getting feedback

01:21:42.800 and advice and insight about how to improve your life and then the last thing make sure you just

01:21:48.420 make the most of the last quarter of 2026. I don't care if it's with us. I'd rather it be with us

01:21:53.860 because I think we do good work. But as long as it's somewhere, I'm happy with that. I want you

01:21:58.500 to improve. I want you to get better. And if you want a resource to do that, orderofman.com slash

01:22:03.400 iron council. All right, gentlemen, make it a great day. We will be back tomorrow for our

01:22:09.480 ask me anything. And again, I'm over on YouTube now with this new, this brand new studio that I

01:22:13.920 think you're really going to love, head to youtube.com slash order of man, and I'll see

01:22:18.180 you over there until tomorrow. Go out there, take action, and become the man you are meant to be.

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Order of Man - September 29, 2026

CASEY LOFTHOUSE ｜ Creating Impact Over Income

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