PHIL ROBERTSON ｜ How to Become Uncanceled
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Phil Robertson is a man of action. He has built a business empire from the ground up. He is a father, a husband, a brother, a friend, and a husband. In this episode, we talk about the power of love, justice and mercy, finding confidence in who you are as a man, discovering the true nature of other people, and so much more.
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Guys, we all know it's easy to be on edge these days with so much nonsense going on in the world
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from political protests and government overreach, cancel culture, everyone being offended by
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everything and a myriad of other issues that aren't really all that important in the grand
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scheme of things. It's really hard to find a sense of peace that I think most of us would
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really like to have in our lives. Today, I'm joined by a man that has seemed to not only find it,
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but is so uniquely comfortable and sure of who he is that you can't help but be at a minimum
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intrigued and fascinated about how he's done all of this. His name is Phil Robertson. You may know
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him from Duck Dynasty. Today, we talk about the power of love, justice and mercy, also the power
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of hope, finding confidence in who you are as a man, discovering the true nature of other people
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and so much more. In fact, he even does some bird calling for me with his signature calls
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and we also get into why Phil was canceled and how he's taking all of that in stride.
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You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest. Embrace your fears and boldly chart your
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own path. When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time. You are not easily
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deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong. This is your life. This is who you are. This is who you
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will become. At the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.
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Gentlemen, what is going on today? My name is Brian Michler. I'm the host and the founder of
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the Order of Man podcast and movement. Welcome here. Welcome back. We've got a lot of things to
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this mission of reclaiming and restoring masculinity. Now, I've got a great conversation with the one and
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only Phil Robertson today. I do want to mention something very, very quickly because we want to
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giveaway. All right, guys, with that said, let me introduce you to Phil. He is obviously
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the founder of Duck Commander and star of A&E's Duck Dynasty. I know you got a lot of you guys
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are familiar with him. He comes from very, very humble beginnings. And actually, if you knew
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nothing else about him, you'd probably be surprised to learn about his success and the fact that
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he's become a multimillionaire. In fact, he lives in the same home he and Miss Kay lived
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in for over 40 years, I believe. He found Christ decades ago and has made it now his life's mission
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to spread his message far and wide. He's also come over some heavy criticism for his perspective
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around Christianity, homosexuality, transgenderism, and so much more. In fact, his hit show, Duck
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Dynasty, was canceled in part due to his outspoken ideas on the subjects. He's also the author of his
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latest book, Uncanceled, and he has refused, refused to take to the direction of society and culture
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lying down. So I think, guys, you're really going to enjoy this one. Very different than past podcasts,
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but still a conversation definitely worth having. Phil, glad to have you on the podcast. I've been
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following you for a long time, so I've been looking forward to this conversation, that's for sure.
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Yeah, like I said, I've been looking forward to this conversation because
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from the outside looking in, you've always been somebody who seems to speak what's on his mind for
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better or worse, but whether we agree or disagree, it's always nice to find a man who can stand by
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Yeah, it seems to be a pretty rare trait, though, or maybe I should say it this way,
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an increasing rarity in today's culture, somebody who can stand by what they say.
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Not much has changed. Here's a reading, the Apostle Paul to the Roman Empire.
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It's the days of the Roman Empire. God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged
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natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way, the men also abandoned natural relations with
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women, were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men and
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received in themselves the due penalty of their perversion. And the kicker is, since they
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did not, this is Romans 128, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of
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God, he gave them over to a depraved mind to do what ought not to be done. And there's a long list
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there. It's scary, Ryan. They become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed, and depravity.
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They're full of envy. They're full of envy, murder. Just think about 2,000 years later, we're seated here,
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you and I. They are full of envy, murder. You're like, surely they wouldn't murder their own children
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inside the mother's womb. What in the strife, deceit, malice? They're gossips, slanderers,
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god-haters, insolent, arrogant, boastful. They invent ways of doing evil. They disobey their
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parents. They're senseless in the days of the Roman Empire, faithless, heartless, and ruthless.
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When you read texts like that and you fast forward and look around at our culture,
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I said, maybe I can just give them a few thoughts. So Ryan, my motive for crying out loud is I'm already
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a rich guy. This made me rich right here. Check this out. I could sound like birds as a young boy.
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So I got all these little bird whistles. Listen to me. Teal. That's all he does. That's a little
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drake. Wigeon. Pintail. All coming out of one device. Here's a wood duck. That's when he's flying.
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When he's sitting here, he'll go. That's wood duck and mallard and gadwall. So I had a knack for
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sounding like birds. The purpose of the book is to get people hopefully to love God and love their
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neighbor. I just don't see the downside, Ryan. Love God. Love your neighbor. Would we be better
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off for crying out loud? Well, I mean, that's a really good point. I tend to be spiritual and
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religious as well. And let's just, for the sake of arguments, say that somebody isn't. I can't find
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fault in what you just said, whether you're spiritual, religious, believe in God or not.
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Loving your neighbor and being a good human being seems to be the answer, but it's something we
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continue to forget. Like you just read in Romans from 2,000 years ago. It's something that we just
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Well, there's two forces at work. The forces of God, which are the perfect way to become
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more perfect as a human being as we trust in him. But there's a problem here, and most people
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either reject it outright or saying, oh, oh, don't tell me. You actually believe there's a devil.
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Well, finally, Ephesians, the Apostle Paul, I'll answer most of your questions, 90% of them or more,
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without opinion on my part, just Bible verses. It's either true or false. Be strong in the Lord
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and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the
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devil's schemes. You say, why do people do what they do? Why is it such a tough sell
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just to love one another and love your God? Our struggle is not against flesh and blood,
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but against the rulers, the authorities, and the powers of this dark world, and against the
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spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. I only read that to remind your audience
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that it's not a governmental fix. It's not a government fix. In other words, governments
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can't remove your sin. Never count another one against you. Governments can't raise you from the
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dead. So flawed men at best becomes the government officials. And your only hope is, man, I hope they
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fear God, and I hope they love each other. But you look at the political world, right? And I'm
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thinking, whew, man, I'm looking at it in these days, I'm thinking, what in the world are we doing?
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So the founders had it right going in, you know, we hold these truths to be self-evident. All men
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are created equal. They've endowed by their creator. Certain unigual rights, life, liberty,
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pursuit of happiness. So I'm just one guy down here on planet Earth. The apostle Paul told the
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Thessalonians, he said, make it your ambition to live a quiet life. He said, a quiet life, that'd be
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cool. Mind your own business. Yeah. Work with your hands doing something that's good so your daily
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life will win the respect of outsiders so that you won't be dependent on anybody.
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That's where I, that's, that's me right there. That's the text I live by.
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That's a, that's a powerful way to live. And it seems like, um, when you talk about politicians,
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you know, I, I, I'll admit that I've had interest in that because I think there's some
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good that can be done or some things that maybe we could swing the pendulum a bit, but it seems to
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me to attract the worst kind of people, not the best kind of people.
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It's a jungle out there, my man. I'm just looking at it. I'm thinking, boy,
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with just change of leadership, uh, they all got on old Donald Trump. I talked to him three or four
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times. You can better believe the first words out of my lips. I reached in my pocket and I got a little
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note and I had some arrows drawn on a little piece of paper. I'm meeting possibly the future
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president. He was running at the time. I wrote down on a little piece of paper, an arrow coming down
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out of the heavens, God becoming flesh. When I explained it to him, it was just arrows. I said,
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whatever happens, don't forget this, Trump. I said, you and I are the same age. And I said,
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uh, let's see Jesus dying. There's the cross. Jesus died on for our sins. I said, you got any
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sins, Trump? He said a lot of sins. I said, me too. I said, make sure you put your faith in Jesus. I
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said, he was buried three days later. He said he was going to do this all throughout Matthew, Mark,
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Luke and John. And they put him in the tomb. I said, like, like you and I are going, Trump. I said,
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there's a six foot hole waiting on both of us, my man. I said, Jesus beat that for us. I said,
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don't forget that when you're governing our nation. And he, and I said, have a nice day. I just shared
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Jesus with him. And I said, I'm out of here. And he said, Hey, he said, can I have that piece of
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paper? I said, you can. And I handed it to him. I talked to him a couple of times after that.
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I always pointed him to Jesus. All I can say about Trump, he's pro-God. He didn't say, get that Bible
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out. We tell him he about, no, he didn't say, you think I'm on food? No, he listened carefully.
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Hmm. So I find him a little caustic, but I find a great mind in one Donald Trump. He's a little bit
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caustic from time to time, but I pointed to Jesus. He listened and I went on my way. I met with him a
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couple of times after that. I stayed with the message, pointing to Jesus, pointing to Jesus.
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So I can't judge him or any other man. I just am a servant to preach the gospel.
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How do you, uh, when, when you talk about Trump with a great mind and, and, uh, his, his leadership,
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how do you reconcile that with some of his behavior, even his admitted sins? I mean,
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we all have sins definitely. Uh, but I think there's some people who have some real problem
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with his behavior and attitude and have it, have a hard time reconciling that with, uh, his,
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his policy decision-making process, for example.
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At the end of the day, if he's pro God, pro gun, pro life, that's enough for me.
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We're dealing with flawed men. If they just are pro God, pro gun, where we can, I'm a duck hunter
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without a weapon. I'm out of luck. You say, so you're not going to shoot people with it.
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You're going to shoot ducks with it. Yep. So he's pro gun and he's pro life. And I said,
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you know what, in this current age, that's good enough for me. So I can get by it. I say that he
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was caustically brilliant. He has a great mind. No doubt. He did more for our country than anybody
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lately, but just compare him to the one we now have. Well, I think one of the things that yes,
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and it, and it, and it has continued to get worse. And I think it will continue to get worse unless
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we reverse courses. But I think one of the redeeming qualities of Trump, although he has
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many flaws, like we all do, is that he fights, you know? And I think, I think that's, that's a
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redeeming quality is that he's willing to fight. He's willing to stand up. And that's how you and I
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started the conversation, standing by your word and your, what you believe. Yeah. Just view it like
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this. You say, love is patient. We have to be patient when we introduce Jesus to someone who knows
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nothing about him, which Trump, he didn't. So I'm explaining it to him. So you just got to remember,
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we be patient and we wait and we, we won't change our behavior. Not Donald Trump, not me. For 28 years,
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I was a rank heathen. I mean, a drunken, whoremongering heathen. You say, what's changed all that?
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When we come to Jesus by faith and we baptize them in the river, when they come out of there,
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they're given God's spirit. And this is what you'll begin to see. If they're faithful, love, joy,
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peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Without the spirit of God,
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you'll be like the other group. Here's the two groups, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness,
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goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such things, there is no law. You say, boy,
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if we just patiently move forward and these, what, this was the fruit that came forth from us.
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What a culture and what a great nation we would be. However, the acts of the sinful nature are obvious.
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You say, what's the other group doing? While we are full of love, joy, peace, patience, kindness,
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what about the rest of them? Here they are. It's obvious, sexual immorality, always at the top of
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the list and all the lists, impurity, debauchery, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, discord, jealousy,
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fits of rage. One of the reasons I've never purchased a cell phone is some people would show
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me theirs and I'm like, I don't want to see that. So I'm a cell phone free zone.
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Oh, I've never owned one. So a lot of people say, well, boy, you are behind the time. Are you redneck
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idiot? You know, I said, look, all I'm asking y'all is I don't have a cell phone. What am I missing?
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And they all kind of look at me and say, you know, Robinson, you asked a pretty good question.
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You ain't missing much. I'm like, so get out of my face with that cell phone. Jealousy, fits of rage,
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factions, dissensions, envy, drunkenness, orgies. I warn you, like I did before, those who live like
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this will not inherit the kingdom of God. So there's a big difference in the behavior of a child
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of God, male or female, and a child of the devil, male or female. And I can see it clearly from the
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fruit. I just look at their fruit and say, what in the world ever happened to these United States
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of America? I've been on the earth 75 years, so older than you, but I've seen this whole thing.
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I went up there and one of the brothers was a historian, taught college history for 40 years.
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I said, make a list for me there, Sammy. I said, make a list for me. And I will start with the oldest
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empire you can find and come all the way through and list every one of them, all the way up to
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United States of America, Russia, China, India, the ones we have now. I said, walk it all the way up.
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And I want to know what happened to them. And this historian said, Phil, every one of them collapsed
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leading into our empire we live in right now. You say, this thing is beginning to teeter and it scares
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me. So I tried to write a book to get people to say, come to their senses and say, you know, we did
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this love thing. That might be the way to go. I said, might be the way to go. I said, look at us.
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I mean, holding someone's sin against them, Ryan, the sin they committed 200 years ago.
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But they didn't even commit. And you're like, what in the world? So look, you start reading these
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Bible texts. Remember, all my answers are Bible verses. Love is patient. Love is kind.
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Love does not envy. Love does not boast. Love is not proud. Love is not rude. Love is not self-seeking.
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Love, listen to this one, is not easily angered. You're like, what about this one? Love keeps no
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record of wrongs. You're like, somebody finds something you did wrong when you were 17 or when
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you were 15 or when you were, and they try to destroy you. They came after me. Do you believe
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sexual perversion is a sin? And I said, I was thinking to myself, what kind of question is that
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for a magazine that's interviewing me? Right. So it was read 1 Corinthians chapter 6, 9, and 10,
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don't be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, the idolaters, the adulterers, the male prostitutes,
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the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the swindlers, the drunkards, the slanderers. They won't inherit
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the kingdom of God. That's all I did with this dude. And they came after us and our business,
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our duct hall business at all and sponsors. It cost us about 10 million. But I said, hey,
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the Lord gives and he takes away. I said, let's just keep following the Lord Jesus and we'll see
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what happens. So we got it all back. It wasn't like they destroyed me. But you just think about it,
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a human being walking up to you saying, Ryan, do you believe? And they ask you about some sin and
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you're like, well, let me read you a list. That's in one of these lists. It's all listed for us to
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look and see. Right. So it's not like rocket science.
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Well, and I also don't think that's a, I mean, that's not a genuine question because
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they already know your answer to it. They're just trying to tee you up and set you up.
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That's it. So that's how I got mailed. They said, you know, oh, they were happy jumping around
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and A&E fired us. Finally, the big dogs from A&E show back up down to my house on the edge of the
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riverbank. And they said, well, we didn't actually fire you, Mr. Robertson, but we want you to,
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we put you on indefinite hiatus. I said, I know what I looked up hiatus, indefinite hiatus.
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I said, that pretty well means you're not a part of the program anymore. Right. Right.
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They all say, well, we want to get you back and we'll do it again. I said, OK. I said, by the way,
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did y'all ever hear from me with any irate phone calls or all this stuff? They said, not a word.
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I said, it doesn't bother me if you fire me. I don't care if you fire me off some TV show.
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I said, it's life's worth way more than that. So I shared Jesus with them and they went on their
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way and life is still good. So I, so I, everybody's going to be persecuted if they go around hollering
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about Jesus Christ. I mean, you will be persecuted. He said, if they hated me, they'll hate you also.
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Oh, for sure. Don't be surprised when they hate you. So I just carried on with it and said,
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I don't hold it against them. We can always have a good out. There's one lawgiver and judge,
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the one who can both save and destroy. Who are you to judge your neighbor? So I just
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remembered that let God handle all the wrath and all the, all the judging business. He's in the,
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now when he declares his wrath upon you and he judges you, you're going to find out who you are.
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So I just back off from the judging. I said, look, I know this is going to shock y'all,
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but the people who tried to cancel me, I actually love them.
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I still love them. I'm still pointing them to Jesus. I'm still here. But as far as hate them,
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you've heard it said by some, Jesus said to love your neighbor and hate your enemy.
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He said, but I'm telling you, love your enemies and pray for the ones who persecute you.
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That's the way I wrote. I just love them and say, y'all should listen to this. And you get out of me,
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you know him. I'm like, Hey, just think about it. And I'm on down the road. Tell the next one.
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So it's, it's, it's exciting, but it is, you are a persecuted mess for sure.
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Well, and, and I, I think you obviously, you know, I think one of the tagline or part of your
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tagline here was finding meaning and peace. And I think you can find peace in that because you let,
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I've got the book right here, but you let all of that stuff slide. But my question is,
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and I want to go back to the president thing because you had mentioned or alluded to our
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current president Biden. And, you know, there, I don't know if judgment is the right word, but
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you're, you're definitely critical of that. So how do you then say, you know, I let the judgment be
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done over here, but also I'm going to be critical of what's going on here. And I don't think you're
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wrong. I don't think that's bad. I think it's probably wise that we evaluate what our leaders
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are doing, but how do you reconcile the two? Here's a good text.
00:26:50.000
Let no debt remain. This is why you pay taxes for the authorities or God's servants
00:26:57.600
who give their full time to governing. So give everyone what you owe him. If you owe, if you owe
00:27:05.920
taxes, pay taxes. If revenue, revenue. If respect, then respect. I respect all of them that in the
00:27:14.640
political arena. If honor, then honor. So you have these people and they're all flawed like all of us
00:27:23.280
are. But then this is said, let no debt remain outstanding except the continuing debt to love
00:27:32.740
one another. Now check this out. For he who loves his fellow man has fulfilled the law.
00:27:41.540
All these, that's the reason when Jesus died, he canceled the written code. Now we're under
00:27:51.320
the law of love, joy, peace, faith, the spirit, the Holy Spirit. The commands, the commandments do not
00:28:01.380
commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not covet. And whatever other commandments there may be
00:28:09.360
are summed up in this one rule, love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no harm to its neighbor.
00:28:21.140
You say, so here comes Jesus in flesh, never makes a mistake, never breaks the law. He wrote it.
00:28:31.400
He keeps it, comes down in flesh. He's one of us now. He's 100% human, 100% God. He dies on a cross
00:28:41.080
to get us out from under it and put us under a system of grace and mercy so that when we make a
00:28:49.180
mistake, we don't die anymore. All of us have sinned. The wages of sin is death. You say Jesus came down
00:28:57.680
and actually got rid of the law, put us under grace where there's provision for your sins. It's only
00:29:03.880
then when you'll start seeing that sinful life fade away. I'm 75. You say, when's the last time you said
00:29:13.540
a word of profanity? When's the last time, Phil, you slipped and you cursed? 40 years, maybe?
00:29:22.140
Hmm. Really? Yeah. That was just one little thing. But then the whoring around and all that.
00:29:30.780
Miss Kay stuck with me, you know, through thick and thin, you know, she said, I'm glad I waited you
00:29:36.140
out, but you were a rascal. But she loved me enough to stay with me. So then I started teaching my
00:29:43.000
children properly instead of that foolish, drunken he that I was. So if you say, well, Phil,
00:29:50.120
have you been a sinner? I'm like, Brian, I have been a pathetic sinner. Just to look at the Bible,
00:30:00.460
it made me feel better. When I looked at the apostle Paul, he was a murderer, a blasphemer,
00:30:07.400
a persecutor. And Jesus chose him to write most of the New Testament. I said, I feel better. I said,
00:30:16.560
I wasn't that bad. I said, I didn't go around birding people at all. So I looked at the apostle
00:30:21.980
Paul's conversion. I said, whoo. I said, boy, he cut his pen. I said, but I don't feel quite,
00:30:28.620
I wasn't that bad. But it's pretty, pretty interesting that God had someone like that
00:30:33.960
to write most of the New Testament. Don't tell me he's not a forgiving God.
00:30:38.960
Yeah, that's a good point. Did something specific happen in your life to change your ways? Or was it
00:30:45.460
over a period of time? Like, how did you come to this path that you're on now considering
00:30:49.120
where you came from for the first 28 years of your life?
00:30:52.840
It's kind of, probably was down to the last, when I was about 27, my younger sister told some preacher,
00:31:03.600
if you could convert my brother, he'd win thousands for Jesus. If you could convert him,
00:31:12.240
that's what he'll do. And he said, are you serious? She said, he'll convert thousands.
00:31:19.140
He, I know this. So I didn't know that what girl was a prophetess, but as it turned out,
00:31:25.380
she made the first connection. I owned a beer joint at the time. And she came in giving Bible
00:31:31.920
tracks and introduced me to this preacher. And I was mean to him and ran him off. But about a year
00:31:39.420
later, after I had run my woman off and my children off, I just thought, I'm like a dog chasing his
00:31:47.700
tail here, going around and around in an evil circle. I think I said, Miss Kay, get a hold of
00:31:53.860
that preacher. Let me talk to him again. When he asked me what the gospel was, I said, I guess gospel
00:32:01.180
music on the radio, maybe. I don't know. I didn't even know what, anything about Jesus. So I heard
00:32:08.880
the message. I obeyed it. And the rest is history, as they say. But it was the smartest move I have
00:32:14.600
ever made since I've been on planet earth. No doubt about it. What did your, what did your sister
00:32:21.400
see in you looking back at it now? She said you would convert thousands. She was right.
00:32:25.800
What did she see that maybe you didn't recognize? Yeah. When the, when the preacher saw me converting
00:32:32.880
people after I was converted, he told her, he said, how did you know that? She said, the Lord told me
00:32:41.360
that. Hmm. So you say you got in by the, I mean, it was a, just a one conversion story. But since that
00:32:53.360
time, her words have kind of haunted me because I thought I never dreamed I'd be running around
00:32:59.840
with a Bible in my hand, hollering about Jesus. It never, it never was in my mindset. I never thought
00:33:06.300
I would be there. But here I am. And my sister was right. They have been thousands, wrote to the Lord.
00:33:14.260
So by the way, Brian, they're still coming. They're still coming from all over the country,
00:33:21.880
from outside the country. They come down. They just keep coming down. And I said, well,
00:33:27.420
why did y'all come? And they said, we want to be saved. We want you to baptize us. And every week,
00:33:35.560
every week, every week, we meet in a place where it's about half African-Americans and about half
00:33:43.000
white people. Some of them are pretty rough around the edges. The homeless are there.
00:33:48.060
We have a big meal so they can have a meal on Sunday morning, come over with them people and
00:33:54.900
you'd have a good meal where it gets around. So the homeless come in when they're shacked up and not
00:34:00.740
married. A lot of them, we bring down to my yard on the riverbank and we marry them. I got, I sent
00:34:08.840
somebody up there and say, get up there and make sure I'm a licensed creature.
00:34:16.740
You know, marry these people. I said, I'm marrying people. I need a little credentials here. I don't
00:34:21.260
even, I'm just some guy down on the riverbank. I'm not a seminary trained, whatever. So,
00:34:28.260
so it was pretty easy, about 30 bucks, give them about $30. Okay. You're a preacher now.
00:34:33.780
So. I think this is, that's one, I think this is probably part of the reason and part of your,
00:34:40.080
your appeal and influence is that, and this goes back to what you were saying about Paul,
00:34:45.480
is that you are an imperfect person. You acknowledge that, you recognize that. And I
00:34:49.680
think people relate with that because you're not trying to preach from the pulpit. You're down in
00:34:53.640
the trenches with the people. And I think people resonate with that.
00:34:56.360
Yeah. Yeah. They resonate with it. And another thing we, we help them with,
00:35:01.520
it's a great text in Romans 12. What we've done to Christianity in these United States,
00:35:11.200
we've kind of got it down to where if you report in to a structure on the side of the road
00:35:18.080
and you stay there for a couple of hours, sing a few songs and you walk out the door. Well,
00:35:25.300
tomorrow is Monday, then Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, before you're going
00:35:32.360
to come back. Well, that's all you're getting. How, what are you doing on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday?
00:35:39.860
It's a long time. You and I are carrying on this conversation, Ryan, but this ain't Sunday.
00:35:44.800
I mean, we're just sitting here carrying on a conversation. You say, so y'all basically
00:35:49.660
are sharing Jesus with your fellow man right now until they get in their head.
00:35:58.000
I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices,
00:36:07.340
holy and pleasing to God. That's all the time, which is your spiritual
00:36:14.320
worship. You're like, you worship Jesus everywhere you are. You have an impact on the culture around
00:36:22.180
you. You reach out to people. You do it in public. We're right now, you say that this is a public
00:36:28.820
preaching time. You say, we're actually talking about God here. Yeah. Don't conform any longer to
00:36:36.980
the pattern of this world. Well, you look around and say, I'm a stranger here. I'm not participating in
00:36:46.760
all this filth. I'm not doing it. Be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you'll be able
00:36:53.720
to test and approve what God's will is. He goes on to say, guess what? Love must be sincere.
00:37:01.040
You're like, better learn how to live your fellow man. Forgive them no matter what they do. Just love
00:37:07.620
them and forgive them. Cling to what is good. Hate what's evil, not who's evil.
00:37:16.200
That's a good distinction. I mean, ripping babies out of wounds and immorality and drunken.
00:37:21.180
We go to the prisons. We go to the halfway houses. You say, you're there to try to help the people
00:37:29.680
that are on drugs. You're trying to help. Miss Kay works with the women. I work with the men. And we're
00:37:35.160
trying to get them to turn because the halfway houses and the prisons can't save them. Only Jesus. So we
00:37:43.480
we just try to cut through all that. And the ones who make it, we say, whew, finally, that girl finally
00:37:52.000
wised up, you know, and just quit being immoral and selling her body. So it's just one all the time.
00:37:59.060
We're dealing with this one, that one, the other one, you know, you get used to it. And
00:38:02.880
it's the least we can do to reach out to our fellow man while we're here.
00:38:09.040
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00:39:19.900
Robertson. What do you, what do you say to, to non-believers when you begin this? Because, you know,
00:39:26.960
I said it earlier, I'm, I'm a believer. A lot of people are listening are, and some aren't. And so what
00:39:31.640
you're doing is you're, as you quote the Bible is you're appealing to an authority that other people
00:39:36.200
may not honor or recognize. And how do you begin to have that conversation when there's such a barrier,
00:39:45.220
a disconnect between the authority that you're, you're representing and whether or not they believe
00:39:50.300
that? I would first tell them, I said, uh, you have a, if they're at my house, I will reach over
00:39:59.440
and grab a calendar. And I said, this calendar says it's 2022 years from something. I'm looking at the
00:40:10.760
date here. It says 2022. I said, 2022 years from what? From who? And they're like, what? And I said,
00:40:24.200
I said, this is the counting time by Jesus of Galilee. The world is counting time by,
00:40:32.220
I told old Dan, the eunuch, I said, Dan, I said, who's that woman that knows everything on the cell
00:40:38.600
phone? And he said, Alexa, I said, I want you to give her a call and ask her what year it is in
00:40:46.080
China. So he calls Alexa up and he said, what year is it in China, Alexa? She said, 2022. I said,
00:40:56.540
well, the Chinese are counting time by Jesus too. I said, well, what about Russia? Ask her about
00:41:02.440
Russia? Uh, Alexa, uh, Alexa, what year is it in Russia? She said, 2022. So we checked red. What's,
00:41:11.560
what's a North Korea. We tried them. They even count time by Jesus. I said, why don't we start there?
00:41:20.160
And we say, uh, let's see, that's 2022 years since Jesus got here. What are all the years called
00:41:28.840
before he got here? Well, they're called all the years before he got here, BC. So you get to looking
00:41:37.220
at it. You're like, if we're counting time by this one individual who ever lived, I said, they're never
00:41:43.700
going to count time by me or you. I said, but if we're counting time by Jesus Christ, I said, I would
00:41:51.980
at least investigate him. I mean, time is predicated on him. So they start there and they say, I've never
00:42:00.080
thought about that. I said, I have. I said, why are we counting time by somebody who is a myth, like they
00:42:07.020
say, and who didn't exist? Our calendar tells us he was there. So that's why I start with someone who
00:42:16.020
said, I don't believe. I start there. And I said, listen, let me just tell you something. Unless
00:42:22.680
this is true, unless Jesus is real and he was who he said he was, and he died, was buried and raised
00:42:31.280
from the dead, removed our sin and guaranteed us we can live beyond the grave. I said, if that's not true,
00:42:39.620
we're never going to get out of here. By what means do we have to get out of here? Maybe the
00:42:48.760
medical profession, no, no, they're not going to be able to remove our sin and raise us from the
00:42:54.420
death. That's out. I said, my view is we got one shot at this, Jesus of Galilee. If he was who he said
00:43:03.080
he was, there's a way to eternal life. I'd like to be on the train when the train leaves. If it's not
00:43:12.620
true, I'll be dead all over and I won't have to worry about it at all. I'm just dead and I'm gone. But if
00:43:19.380
it's true, there's life beyond the grave. So to tell you the truth, man, I'm pretty fired up about it. Just the
00:43:28.980
hope, the hope of it all. When God made it happen, where's that text? I love this one. This is a
00:43:37.280
pretty good, check this out. I'll find in a little bit. Let's see. Because God wanted to make the
00:43:47.320
unchanging nature of his purpose very clear. Let me get what Speck's on. When he wanted to make it very
00:43:57.520
clear, God wanted to make the unchanging nature of his purpose very clear to the heirs of what was
00:44:06.060
promised. He promised us eternal life. He confirmed it with an oath. He said, I'm going to do this.
00:44:13.460
I'm going to get you all planet earth alive. I'm going to remove your sin and I'm going to raise you
00:44:17.860
from the dead. And watch. God confirmed it with an oath. Now, when God starts saying, I'm going to do
00:44:26.600
this with an oath. By God, I'm going to do it. And I am God. And he said, God did this so that by two
00:44:35.780
unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie. He's saying, I promise you human beings,
00:44:45.440
I will give you eternal life. And I swear by it. And there's no one bigger to swear by than me.
00:44:51.680
So I'm swearing by myself. I'm going to save you. And I'm not lying. So watch how this ends.
00:45:01.780
God did this so that by two unchangeable things, he made a promise and he can't lie,
00:45:07.720
in which it is impossible for God to lie. We who have fled to take hold of the hope offered to us,
00:45:14.920
that's me. I fled to take hold of what was offered. I'm looking at it saying, good night,
00:45:23.880
immortality may be greatly encouraged. It encourages me. We have this hope,
00:45:31.940
immortality, as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure. You're like, good grief.
00:45:39.820
The God of heaven that said, I swear, when I tell you I'll save you, I'm going to do it.
00:45:47.540
And I can't lie. When I read that, I said, I'll never desert God ever. I'm in, I'm in till they put
00:45:56.700
me in the ground. I'll go to my grave saying, I know he's there and I know he's going to raise me
00:46:02.680
from the dead. By the way, your soul and spirit will be alive. That never dies. So just because
00:46:11.480
you separate from your body for a short time, it's no big deal. What's this one? It's better if I
00:46:18.720
like that, let the almighty speak. Check this out, Ryan. This one here, I'm going to jump it up and
00:46:24.680
down about it. Let's see. Where is it? Here we go. What's this? Brothers, we don't want you to be
00:46:33.700
ignorant about those who fall asleep. They die. Or to grieve like the rest of men who have no hope.
00:46:44.780
Most funerals, there's tears. Sure, of course. And they say things like, we lost him. He passed away.
00:46:53.320
You're like, not if you're a Christian. We didn't lose him. He's still here. Watch. We don't want you
00:47:00.440
to be ignorant about those who fall asleep. Or to grieve like the rest of men who have no hope.
00:47:05.840
That's why they're crying. Just think of a person that does not understand the resurrection of Jesus
00:47:13.020
Christ and us being resurrected. Man, what a loss. They don't know. We believe that Jesus died and rose
00:47:19.900
again. Well, there's the gospel. And so we believe, what's this? That God will bring with Jesus
00:47:28.280
those who have fallen asleep in him. You say, God's going to bring with Jesus. Well, I know their bodies
00:47:36.420
are in the cemetery, but he's bringing them with him, the soul, their soul. He's coming after those
00:47:44.080
bodies. He's going to resurrect and give them a glorified body, not a body like this one. I'm 75.
00:47:50.680
I'm wearing out, Ryan. According to the Lord's own word. You don't want that same body, huh? You want
00:47:55.360
something different? We tell you that we who are still alive, what if you haven't died? What if you're
00:48:01.080
alive when it happens? Well, who are left to the coming of the Lord, we certainly will not precede those
00:48:07.500
who have fallen asleep. You say, he's bringing those souls and spirits with him, and he's going to
00:48:13.180
resurrect them first before he changes our bodies. For the Lord himself will come down from heaven,
00:48:20.880
loud command, voice of the archangel, and the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will
00:48:28.660
rise first. You say, bodily resurrection. You say, good night. If all we'll be doing, if we're alive when
00:48:36.980
it happens, if it happens in the next 10 minutes, we'll look up, and I'm going to say, Ryan, I'm looking at
00:48:42.260
you, dude, but look at all these graves. The graves are coming up out of the way, going way back all
00:48:48.580
the way to Abraham, coming out of the ground. After that, after the dead in Christ rise first, we who
00:48:57.100
are still alive and are left would be caught up with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air,
00:49:02.340
and so we'll be with the Lord forever. Then he says this, therefore, encourage each other with
00:49:09.460
these words. Resurrection, man. Hey, I've never read a story that offered me my body being raised
00:49:19.300
from the dead, but the one right here, and that's why I'm not budging. Why do you think that this is,
00:49:26.780
your belief in what you're sharing now and the gospel and the words are such a threat to people?
00:49:34.460
Because I imagine, you know, when you were quote unquote canceled, I imagine it has to do with some
00:49:39.660
of these belief systems, right? I mean, that's what they attack. What is so threatening about what
00:49:44.920
you're sharing to these individuals? Because Satan is crushed by all this. He lost. He eats.
00:49:55.960
Jesus has got it. A while ago when I read you that text about our struggle is not against flesh and
00:50:06.020
blood. It goes on to sow, therefore, put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes,
00:50:17.160
and it does a lot, you may be able to stand your ground. And after you've done everything, to stand,
00:50:26.740
don't budge when you see them come after you. And Satan's not taking this lying down. He hates the Lord.
00:50:35.300
He hates what he's done. The Bible says if he had known, Paul to the Corinthians, if he had known that
00:50:42.620
by murdering him, he would save the world, he wouldn't have had him crucified. He slicked Satan
00:50:50.580
on this deal. Stand firm, and after you've done everything, to stand. Stand firm, then, with the
00:50:56.940
belt of truth buckled around your waist. Look, Jesus said, you'll know the truth, and the truth will set you
00:51:04.060
free. You say, set me free from what? From Satan. From sin. Set you free from guilt. Set you free from
00:51:16.240
law, having to be perfect. You're in the grace. And set you free from the grave. You say, man,
00:51:23.420
when the truth sets you free, that sets you free from a lot. You're like, Satan, sin, guilt, law,
00:51:32.140
the grave itself sets you free. Belt, put the belt of truth around your waist with the breastplate of
00:51:39.700
righteousness in place. Your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace.
00:51:46.060
You say, you are ready to rumble and tell people about Jesus. In addition to all this, take up the
00:51:52.800
shield of faith, which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet
00:51:59.260
of salvation and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God. Take that with you and pray
00:52:09.000
on all occasions with prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert. Always keep on praying for
00:52:16.960
all the saints. So you begin to read these Bible verses, Brian, and they sure make you feel a lot
00:52:24.040
better. Sure. That's what you need to tell the young people who are wrestling with all this and that
00:52:29.120
another. Just tell them, look, just get on the right path. Look, this is scary, but hey, sometimes you
00:52:39.300
have to be afraid. Enter through the narrow gate. Wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to
00:52:46.560
destruction. And many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life.
00:52:56.420
Only a few find it. So to the world of 7.2 billion, we try to get the gospel to as many as we can so that
00:53:09.020
few will be a few more, if you understand what I'm saying.
00:53:14.400
I do. Well, you know, when you're talking about free, you know, you talk about free from the grave
00:53:19.480
as probably being the biggest blessing out of those things. But I think also there's so many
00:53:25.460
temporal freedoms that come from what you're talking about as well. There's a lot of men who
00:53:30.440
are struggling with addiction and alcoholism and drug abuse and pornography, debt up to their
00:53:37.680
eyeballs. They aren't able to engage with their families and their communities and love their wife
00:53:43.080
because they're worried about their creditors. And I mean, talk about the freedom of just living this
00:53:48.660
kind of life when it comes to temporal problems as well.
00:53:52.480
Yeah. I've often said to everybody I study with, I always remind them, I said, the rarest commodity
00:54:00.920
that I have found while I've been on planet Earth, rare to find it, peace of mind, peace of mind.
00:54:11.920
Well, in this case, Jesus is our peace. It's fruit that comes forth from us. Love, joy, peace, patience.
00:54:22.920
So we go around, we're peacemakers. We get people where they're not against God and he's going to
00:54:32.140
judge them. They come to God and they put their faith in Jesus. Look, it's not rocket science. Just
00:54:39.240
put your faith and trust in Jesus Christ. Believe it. Say, by faith, I'm accepting it. The Spirit,
00:54:51.180
the Spirit is given to you when you, by faith, repent of your sins. Say, Lord, I'm a terrible sinner.
00:55:00.140
He said, I know it. I've removed them all. They died of sin when they were baptized and buried with
00:55:06.700
them through baptism. And then they come up from the grave, a watery grave. They come up by that grave.
00:55:14.380
God seals the deal with his Spirit. That's why it's called born of water and the Spirit.
00:55:21.360
So from the initial, see if this sounds like what we've discussed in the last 45 minutes.
00:55:30.060
Men of Israel, listen to this. Jesus has just left. They were looking intently into the sky as he was
00:55:37.900
going. Suddenly two men appeared, angels. They said, why do you stand there looking into the sky?
00:55:44.340
This same Jesus would have been taken from you into heaven. He'll come back the same way you've seen
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him go. That's where it starts. A short time later, all the Jews, many of them, the ones that murdered him.
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Men of Israel, listen to this. This is my message because of what Peter is saying.
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Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs. He did all these
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miracles. That ought to do it. Which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. Y'all were
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following him around watching all these miracles. Come on. This man was handed over to you by God's set
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purpose and foreknowledge. And you, Jews, with the help of wicked men, the Roman Empire, put him to death by
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nailing him to the cross. But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death. And here's
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what I like for me and you, Ryan, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him.
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He talks a little bit. And when they are, therefore let all Israel be assured of this. This is the end
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of his sermon. God's made this Jesus whom you crucified. A lot of you would say crucify him. Get
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rid of him. As made him both Lord and Christ Messiah. When the people heard this, they were cut to the
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heart. And this is what I hope for every time I study with somebody, including your listeners.
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They were cut to the heart and they said to Peter and the other apostles, by the way, Peter was a
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commercial fisherman like me for about 10 years before the duck calls was off. Brothers, what shall we do?
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They've asked a simple question. We're cut to the heart. What do we need to do? Peter replied,
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God, repent and be baptized, every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, so that your sins will be
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forgiven. And God will give you the Holy Spirit, the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you,
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your children, and for all who are far off. That was us 2,000 years later. With many other words,
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he warned them. I do it all the time. He pleaded with them. I do it all the time. Save yourselves from
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this corrupt generation. Get out of there. Those who accepted his message were baptized,
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and about 3,000 were added to their number that day. And Ryan, fast forward 2,000 years, you say,
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the ones you've converted, it's turned into thousands. Just like Peter, ordinary, unschooled man. I got a
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couple of college degrees, but I never used them for anything. You didn't hit me with a duck call
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or catching fish. That's for sure. So I just went to go to the woods route. Bradshaw was,
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Terry Bradshaw played for Pittsburgh. He was my understudy, second stringer. So I sat down with him
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one day in the locker. I said, listen, I'm out of here. I'm quick. I'm going to the woods, Bradshaw.
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Well, I'm going to hunt and fish, and I'm going to have a lifestyle that does not involve running for
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your life from large, mean men. I said, you can play pro ball. Go get at you. I'm going to be down to
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fish in the river and duck hunting. He said, you've got to be kidding. I said, I'm not kidding. I'm
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quitting. I move out. I'm first string. You're second string. You move up. Well, 40 years later,
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somebody grabbed me in the airport and looked around. It was old Bradshaw. I said, Bradshaw,
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you did well. He said, you did too. Yeah, that's right. Did you got any ailments from the licks?
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He said, it's a long list. They broke this. They broke that. He went through all that. I said,
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I think I got the best deal. I'm just saying. Of course, we all had a big latch, you know,
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but he's a good guy. When that took place, where did that foresight come from? Because a lot of
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people probably said, you're crazy. You're nuts. What are you doing? You completely do this 180.
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What made you go that route? I'm not sure, Brad. I'm not sure. Maybe it was God urging me. I had no
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idea at that time that I'd be sharing Jesus with people. I didn't have idea that the duck calls
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would go ballistic. You see what I'm saying? How could you know? Yeah. I just live that out in the
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woods, away from everybody. You know, like we mentioned earlier, I just lived out in the woods.
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I started out fishing. I told Miss Kay, I said, look, for a few years, all the money that comes in
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are beef and fish that I catch, catfish and buffalo and drum out in the river. I said, we're not going
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to make a whole lot of money. As it turned out, I made about $225,000, $250,000 a week, $1,000 a month.
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That's how we live. But the duck called first year, $8,000 in sales when I started building them.
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Then the second year was like $13,000 in sales, which ain't much. You know, it's not even up to.
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And then it was like $22,000, then it was like $38,000, then $60,000. Well, it ended up,
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you know, seven or eight years ago, they called me up there to sign my one millionth duck call that
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we sold. Oh, is that right? Oh, so if we weren't making the three bucks duck call, if it was something,
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but you sell a million, they've done pretty well. You see what I'm saying? Yes.
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It freed me a multi-million. I know, I know you already knew that looking at me, but it's a dead
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giveaway. Obviously, anybody would jump right to that conclusion. You can't make that stuff up,
01:01:41.460
man. You say, how in the world did an old guy like that, some redneck down in the riverbank,
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become a multi-million shooting ducks? Well, you got the story now. I'm just saying.
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When you left football and you made this pivot, were you all in or was there hesitancy? Like,
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were there a lot of like sleepless nights trying to figure out, like, am I really going to do this?
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Or were you like, no, I'm committed. I'm done. I'm going.
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Never looked back. I never thought for a minute it wouldn't work. We started filming ourselves,
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shoot these ducks. We started making DVDs. First, it was like the old tape, way back,
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you know, cassette tapes. But then they come out with the disc. We started turning out DVDs,
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DVDs showing us duck hunt. So, and then A&E watches some of that out in Los Angeles, California,
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and says, wait a minute here. This bunch, we can make a reality show with this bunch.
01:02:46.340
So, they seem to be Bible thumpers, but, you know, wetnecks. So, they came and pitched the show to us.
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How was that? How was that initial experience? You know, you're, you're living your life pretty
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authentically, you know, and I imagine they come in and based on what I see, I imagine you try to
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keep it as authentic as possible, but I imagine they wanted to tweak some things and change some
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things and make it, you know, more dramatized and all this kind of stuff. How do you deal with that?
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They came to me one day and they said, we no longer want you to pray in Jesus' name at the
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supper scene. I said, so you don't want me to pray to God the Father and Jesus the Son. Thank you
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for this meal. I said, so that's, you're outlawing me saying that. And they said, that's correct. I said,
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we're out of here. If you're going to be, if you're going to come up with that, we're out of here.
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Forget the show. I said, I'm not going to do that at all, ever, with y'all or without you. Well,
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you know, it sent a shiver down their back. So, they all got together and they came to me and they
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said, we just don't want to hurt any of the Muslims feelings. And that's why we told you that you
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shouldn't pray in Jesus. I said, I'm not worried about whether they're offended or not. I said,
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we'll tell them about Jesus. I said, but look. So, they said, well, you can go ahead and do it.
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Well, the first supper scene we had, they said, well, time for the prayer. They filmed that on
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every episode. So, when I bowed my head, I said, Lord, I said, I pray for these people who are filming
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this, that you would give them time to repent before you burn their souls in hell. And I pray
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I just, I just gave them one last little lick there, you know, but we kept praying in the name
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of Jesus. Thank you for the food. So, but it's that kind of stuff you run into out there in this
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world. You don't want to get too tangled up in the world because they'll come up with some nonsense
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like that, you know. It's a free country. Well, you know, I imagine it's got you into some trouble
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here and there, but I imagine also the benefits and the blessings that come from standing by your
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convictions have far outweighed the challenges and adversity you've had to deal with.
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Yep. You just don't want to ever back up, back off, or back down. Just don't do it.
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Just go straight ahead. Tell them about Jesus, love them, and move on. The ones who hate you,
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okay, you know, we should change your mind. So, we love all men. We try to get Jesus to them,
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and we're going about a business. If you saw how I lived down here, you'd be amazed on how simple
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it is. I mean, you'd think if somebody, you know, has done as well as I have, they'd be buying all of
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this and other big, big, fancy houses. I said, nah. I said, this house cost $29,000 back when I was
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fishing. I said, nope, it was about $160 a month, pretty cheap living. I said, we're just going to
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stay with this one. So, my sons and all, they built big houses and all, Jason. Oh, yeah, sure.
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Yeah. I said, I ain't going to fool with all that. Miss Kay got her dogs, you know. We kill rats
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coming around in the house. Rats trying to come in our house, you know. It's an old house on the
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riverbank. But I'm still in the same house, Ryan. How long have you been in that home for?
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Oh, it's been about back in the early 70s. So, it's been about 45 years or whatever. We're still there.
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So, I don't want a big house. What good would that do me?
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Well, we just bought a big house and I can tell you that it's nice and it's also not so nice when
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the heating bill comes and the cleaning needs to be done and you can't sit at home. You can't sit and
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enjoy time with your family because you're worried about vacuuming, you know, the third level of the
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house and all this kind of stuff. So, I commend you for that decision. Remember that 1 Thessalonians 4.11.
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Make it your ambition to live a quiet life. Mind your own business. Work hard with your hands.
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So, your daily life will win the respect of outsiders so that you won't have to be dependent
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on anybody. So, as soon as we started doing better, that house was paid for and there goes
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your house notes you have to worry about. You see what I'm saying?
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One at a time where I don't know anybody, anything. It's a good way to roll. Make sure your audience
01:07:24.000
hears that. It's a good way. You don't need to buy all this stuff, you know. Hey, it won't bring you
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happiness. The only in Jesus is peace, joy. So, that's where peace and joy come from, not things.
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That was it. One of them big pine trees could fall on it at the end of the house. I'm in
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the woods, you know. It's big trees all around me.
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That's powerful stuff. Well, Phil, I want to tell you, I really appreciate you. Like I said,
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when we started this conversation, just always standing by your convictions and, you know,
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regardless of the consequences of that. And I think that's why so many people, myself included,
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um, are, are attracted to you and what you do because you have that level of integrity and
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that peace of mind, I think is something a lot of guys are really looking for in their life.
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Also want to let you know, my wife wanted, because she doesn't do this very often. I talk
01:08:19.580
with a lot of great people and she made certain today, she called me and said, you make sure
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that you tell Phil that I said hello. So, I wanted to let you know that as well.
01:08:37.300
Oh, I will. We, that, that is for sure. That is for sure. Well, Phil, I thank you for your time.
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Um, guys, make sure you pick up a copy of the book on canceled. Got it right here. Uh,
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great book, great message. I think it's really going to help. Phil, thanks again, brother.
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There you go, guys. My conversation with the one and only Phil Robertson. I really hope you enjoyed
01:08:57.820
that conversation. Obviously different, uh, than we've had in the past. And that's my goal. I want
01:09:02.200
to bring you different ideas and concepts and conversations. Uh, and this one was no exception
01:09:08.520
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01:09:13.220
or just broadening the perspective that you might currently have. Uh, if you haven't picked up a copy
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