Order of Man - RON WHITE ｜ A Trained Brain Is a Powerful Tool

00:00:00.000 If you forget a man's name two seconds after he says it, your memory probably isn't the problem, although we often say that.

00:00:07.980 You just maybe weren't listening, and that's the case that my guest today, two-time USA Memory Champion Ron White, makes.

00:00:15.800 And he backs it up with a system that any man can use.

00:00:19.600 ask yourself one well-worded question before you shake a hand pin the name to the most

00:00:26.820 distinctive feature on the face and review it before the forgetting curve wipes it out

00:00:32.940 but we also talk about building a mind palace as he calls it in real time using the furniture

00:00:39.100 even in my own studio ron shows us how the same method lets you give a speech without any notes

00:00:46.200 retain what you paid to learn at a conference carry a to-do list in your head and remember

00:00:52.440 the script when a customer objects we get into why action and emotion lock things into long-term

00:01:00.860 memory the major system and character action object method that he uses to memorize a deck

00:01:07.580 of cards in record time and why memory comes down to training and intention not simply talent

00:01:15.580 you're a man of action you live life to the fullest embrace your fears and boldly charge

00:01:20.820 your own path when life knocks you down you get back up one more time every time you are not

00:01:26.680 easily deterred or defeated rugged resilient strong this is your life this is who you are

00:01:33.540 this is who you will become at the end of the day and after all is said and done you can call

00:01:39.180 yourself a man gentlemen what is going on my name is ryan michler i'm the host and the founder of

00:01:44.560 the Order of Man podcast and movement. And I've got a good one for you today. We're going to be

00:01:48.580 talking about training the mind, using it as a sharp tool for remembering information and making

00:01:57.140 yourself more influential and effective in the lives of the people that you care about and those

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00:03:12.880 to my guest. His name is Ron white. He is a two time USA memory champion and the founder of brain

00:03:18.140 athlete. He has held us records for the fastest time to memorize a deck of cards. The longest

00:03:24.620 number memorized in five minutes, 167 digits. He's also the longest, excuse me, has the record for

00:03:33.520 the longest number memorized in an hour, which is 800 digits. He got his start at 18 when a

00:03:41.020 telemarketing call led to a job offer from a man who ran memory training seminars. And he's quick

00:03:48.220 to say, he said, he even said it in this podcast. He has no special gift, only a trained system.

00:03:53.240 He's a U S Navy veteran and joined as a reservist after September 11th and served a tour in

00:03:59.160 Afghanistan in 2007. And as a tribute, he memorized the names of more than 2,300 American

00:04:06.220 service members killed there and writes them from memory on a 52 foot wall, which he finished live

00:04:12.980 on the Sean Ryan show. Many of you may have seen that, but he speaks to companies around the world

00:04:19.120 grew his Instagram from 13,000 to over 1.8 million followers by teaching strangers memory techniques

00:04:27.100 on the street and teaches his methods through his recall under pressure program at brainathlete.com.

00:04:35.940 His name is Ron White. Guys, enjoy this one. Ron, what's up, man? So good to see you. I'm

00:04:41.580 really grateful that Corey introduced us because I followed your work and I've seen you on the

00:04:46.560 Sean Ryan show and everything that you're doing. It's pretty incredible. So I'm excited to have

00:04:51.560 this conversation today yeah well thank you i'm uh i'm glad cory introduced us too and and uh and

00:04:58.480 i know about you so uh looking forward to it as well yeah tell me about your shirt brain athlete

00:05:03.820 i'm actually very intrigued by that that's a good shirt but i'm very intrigued by what that

00:05:08.720 is all about yeah so i wear it everywhere i wore i wore it on the sean ryan show um i wear it

00:05:15.260 everywhere. But about a year and a half ago, I had 13,000 followers on Instagram and I got some

00:05:23.520 advice from a guy who's some seem as controversial figure, but it worked. Whether you seem as

00:05:31.500 controversial or not, it worked. His name is Andy Elliott. And Andy and I talked for about 30

00:05:39.580 minutes one day, about a year and a half ago. And he said, Ron, this is what you need to do.

00:05:44.020 i want you to get a i was wearing a black shirt that day he said i want you to get a shirt black

00:05:48.620 looks good on you make it black i wanted to say white letters and i want to say brain athlete

00:05:52.780 which is your company and i want you to just go around on the street and i want you to walk up

00:05:57.120 to random strangers and i want you to teach them something how to learn something you know what i

00:06:01.540 teach people to learn stuff fast right he said i want you to teach how to learn something really

00:06:05.000 fast on the street uh follow this format wear this shirt do this with your camera he gave me

00:06:10.780 all the instructions and I went from 13,000 followers to 1.8 million organically on Instagram

00:06:18.240 and it just I can't wear this shirt now what almost let me say that's not true I'd say 30

00:06:25.000 percent of the time I wear this shirt people will say hey I follow you on Instagram is that right

00:06:29.660 I've seen you on Instagram yeah not necessarily I follow you but I've seen you yeah that's

00:06:34.780 interesting yeah andy is very controversial um i like a lot of what andy has to say and also

00:06:40.720 there's a lot of things where i'm like yeah rub me the wrong way but there's no doubt about what

00:06:46.340 he puts out there that is is definitely captures attention we'll say it that way and it sounds like

00:06:52.980 it's working for you i mean that's incredible and and to be able to go out in public and just

00:06:57.760 teach people things I think is pretty amazing too. Yeah, it, it, uh, it, it, it works. It's

00:07:05.280 a great thing because you know, what I do is demonstratable. So in other words, in three

00:07:09.540 minutes I can demonstrate something, you know, if I was teaching something more abstract, like

00:07:14.220 leadership skills or something like that, I don't know, you probably, maybe you could do something

00:07:18.200 demonstratable in three minutes, but what I do, it fits real good to that format and it's working

00:07:22.560 really good for me. What, what might you teach in like a three minute segment? If you're walking

00:07:26.800 around, you know, downtown Vegas, for example, and you're just pulling some random person out

00:07:32.060 and you've got three minutes to teach them a concept. What might you be able to teach that

00:07:36.320 person in just a matter of, you know, a few minutes? Yeah. So this week, uh, I walked up

00:07:43.300 to some, a couple of different things. Uh, one is this week I walked up to somebody and I said,

00:07:47.540 Hey, um, you know, you give me three minutes. I can teach you how to give a speech or a

00:07:51.880 presentation without using any notes. And we did that one. Sometimes that one's more of a,

00:08:00.360 I guess, a bigger topic. Sometimes I'll just do something real simple. Hey, I'll teach you how

00:08:06.340 to memorize the first 10 presidents or the first 10 elements on the periodic table or the Bill of

00:08:10.840 Rights or the 10 commandments or something like that. So it's always, I'll teach you how to learn

00:08:15.480 something. Sometimes it's a math trick, how to multiply any number by 11, but it always has to

00:08:20.100 do with learning faster thinking faster whether it's a math hack or whether it's learning to say

00:08:25.240 i love you in different languages or hello in different languages or uh memorize something

00:08:30.640 really that that's interesting i think so a lot of the times when and i've had some a couple other

00:08:35.920 memory guys on on the podcast over the past 11 years and sometimes when we think about it in

00:08:41.500 that context it's like oh i'll teach you a little gimmick right i'll teach you a a party trick but

00:08:47.040 But I think what I like about what you're doing is it's very applicable.

00:08:50.220 The best advice that I got on memory, I think probably that I've used more than anything else is what you just said, how to memorize a speech or how to how to present without using notes.

00:09:04.440 And the system that I've always used is to go around the room that I'm in currently and associate it with a topic.

00:09:12.020 So, for example, the first thing I see right here is my stairs.

00:09:15.980 And so that might be something along the lines of ascending to something more powerful in your life.

00:09:23.820 And then I see a door right here, and that might lead me into a conversation about unlocking potential and stepping into a new room that wasn't available to you.

00:09:32.680 And then I go to this right here behind me, which is a cabinet with pictures of my grandfathers.

00:09:37.920 and it might be me talking about how legacy is important and why we ought to honor our past and

00:09:46.400 why we ought to be a legacy in other people's lives. Is that a similar system that you use

00:09:50.660 for memorizing speeches and presentations, or do you do something completely different?

00:09:56.800 Yeah, no, that's very similar. And that technique that you're describing is known as the mind palace

00:10:01.560 or the memory palace. Yes, memory palace. Yes. And it's really a great system. And just for the

00:10:08.780 benefit of your listeners, I'd like to go a little bit deeper into what you were saying,

00:10:13.940 because what you're saying is 100% accurate and that would 100% work. And that was what a great

00:10:19.480 speech you just gave right there too, off the cuff, right? And you made what was in your room fit.

00:10:24.440 But let's do a hypothetical scenario here. Let's say you had five points to a speech and you couldn't make them magically fit with the furniture in your room, right? So really what we want to do is we want to number, let's say, five pieces of furniture in your room. And then these become objects that never change, which number one can always be the staircase. The next one, tell me your three locations you just named.

00:10:52.860 Yeah, so I've got the stairs here, I've got the door here, and then I've got my hutch right behind me over my right shoulder.

00:10:59.840 Perfect.

00:11:00.560 So what we would do is we would make, and I tend not to use doorways just because if you used a doorway in every room, it could get confusing.

00:11:08.820 So let's take this chair then.

00:11:10.140 So I've got the stairs, I've got the hutch, and I've got my leather chair here.

00:11:14.520 Yeah, and then maybe number four, we might make that table that you're right next to.

00:11:19.500 And then what's over there?

00:11:21.140 My second leather chair for guests when I have them in studio.

00:11:25.320 Perfect.

00:11:26.380 So then these would become your permanent locations, right?

00:11:30.820 Regardless of what the topic is, if the first thing you want to talk about is money, you would – and that leather chair costs you a million dollars.

00:11:47.940 Well, it would make sense over on the chair, right?

00:11:50.360 But that's not what's going on.

00:11:52.340 You're not putting it where it makes sense on the furniture.

00:11:55.680 You're putting it on the first location because it's your first topic.

00:11:59.100 So now you just imagine money flying out of that staircase, right?

00:12:03.700 So the little tweak I'm making here is that if somebody's listening and you have a speech to give,

00:12:10.320 pick five spots in your room that never change and then take your first topic.

00:12:15.580 And if it's money, you see money flying out of there.

00:12:18.080 The next topic is – well, let me give you five points here.

00:12:20.740 So number one is your what?

00:12:24.580 My stairwell.

00:12:25.740 The staircase.

00:12:26.880 Yeah, so let's imagine money flying out of there.

00:12:29.100 Money is number one.

00:12:31.060 What are we going to make number two?

00:12:32.480 The hutch behind me.

00:12:34.700 So let's put a clock over there, like a grandfather clock, and a bird pops out.

00:12:38.720 Cuckoo, cuckoo.

00:12:39.860 So you imagine that bird popping out, but the word is clock.

00:12:43.040 So what's two?

00:12:44.140 The clock.

00:12:46.520 Clock.

00:12:47.320 And what's your number three?

00:12:48.640 The chair that I'm sitting in now.

00:12:51.380 Let's imagine you're sitting on that chair and you're on the phone.

00:12:53.960 You're talking to your favorite person.

00:12:55.500 And why do I say favorite person?

00:12:57.040 Because the more emotional, the more attachment you have to it, the likely.

00:13:01.760 But let's just say phone.

00:13:02.980 So what's three?

00:13:03.980 The phone.

00:13:06.300 Phone. 1.00

00:13:07.120 Number four, let's make it a plant.

00:13:09.160 So right there next to you, you've got a plant.

00:13:11.240 You're watering the plant.

00:13:12.280 Maybe the plant tumps over and dirt goes everywhere.

00:13:15.020 and the reason i say you're watering it comes over it's more more action now one last one and

00:13:20.940 this will all make sense um your number five is your chair what's your favorite sports team

00:13:26.800 uh i'll just say the raiders it's the closest football team i don't really have one but i'll

00:13:32.440 say the raiders yeah raiders okay so i want you to now imagine the this is going to take memory

00:13:38.620 takes imagination we're going to see how well your imagination is all right i want you to imagine

00:13:43.120 you're interviewing the Raiders in that chair because they won the Super Bowl.

00:13:46.620 How big of imagination do you have, right?

00:13:49.140 We'll find out.

00:13:49.720 We'll find out here shortly.

00:13:50.960 What's the question?

00:13:53.880 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:54.560 So the Raiders are in your chair for the Super Bowl.

00:13:57.820 So we'll just say team.

00:14:00.440 So let's go back through the room, and could you tell me all five words I gave you?

00:14:04.440 Yeah, so I've got the stairwell's money.

00:14:06.340 I've got the hutch, which is clock.

00:14:08.860 I've got the chair, which is call.

00:14:11.380 I've got the plant.

00:14:12.300 I don't think we came up with a word, but overflowing, I think, is what you said.

00:14:16.420 And then we've got the Raiders, which is team.

00:14:19.540 Perfect.

00:14:20.180 Perfect.

00:14:21.040 So this could be five points to a speech, and I'll give this fake speech.

00:14:27.960 Hey, guys, I want to talk to you today about how to make more money.

00:14:30.920 We all have got some great ideas.

00:14:32.400 The first key to making more money is our time management skills.

00:14:36.080 We need to become – manage our time more effectively.

00:14:38.980 My next point is we want to be good communicators, whether it's on the phone or in person.

00:14:45.140 And next, we want to continue to grow, grow like a plant.

00:14:49.440 And we do this by listening to things like Ryan's podcast or reading books or whatever.

00:14:54.440 And finally, let's work together as a team.

00:14:58.900 And so you described your speech, what you described earlier was so perfect, and you did such a good job at it.

00:15:06.840 But the one tweak that I would make is pick five spots in your room.

00:15:11.340 These five spots never change.

00:15:12.780 You don't pick them based up on what you're going to talk about.

00:15:16.740 But then you take whatever you're going to talk about and you imagine it on these five

00:15:21.020 spots or 10 spots or 20 spots that never change.

00:15:24.140 Yeah, that is interesting.

00:15:26.020 I like that.

00:15:26.760 And it's one thing that stood out as you were saying that is there's a lot of visualization

00:15:30.320 in this because I think, you know, for example, I've got four kids from ages 18.

00:15:36.840 down to 10. And when we do our times tables, for example, there isn't a whole lot of visualization

00:15:42.360 that goes into that. It's basically just times tables, cards, flashcards, et cetera, and just

00:15:47.140 memorizing it through repetition. But I think where you start talking about

00:15:52.280 the concept of visualization, like the one that comes to mind is this money just like flying out

00:15:57.980 of the stairwell, right? That's what came to mind as you were saying that. And I can vividly see

00:16:01.780 that. So is that, is that the key is the visualization process of it? The, the emotional

00:16:07.820 connection, the visual, all of that sort of thing. Yeah. So our mind, absolutely. Our mind will

00:16:14.800 remember what it sees better than what it just hears. You know, you've probably met somebody

00:16:19.660 and then six weeks later you say, I remember the face. I never forget a face, but I just can't

00:16:24.300 think of the name. Right. So let's think about that for a second. What is different between the

00:16:29.860 face and the and the name that they said yeah i mean just you actually like recalling you know

00:16:37.900 what what are their eyes what color are their eyes what what what does their nose look like

00:16:41.980 what color hair do they have it's just it's just more thoughtful i think yeah it is it is and also

00:16:48.240 you know you're looking at that you saw it you saw their eyes and they're in there all all that

00:16:52.880 stuff that you're talking about their name you just heard it what we see we remember so much

00:16:58.840 longer than what we just hear. So when I'm saying, you know, don't look at your hutch and say the

00:17:07.480 word clock, I'm saying look at your watch and see the clock. It's the difference between seeing a

00:17:13.700 face and just hearing a name. So we want to see it, but you also noticed, I said, the plant falls

00:17:20.140 over and the dirt gets out because the more action and emotion that's involved, the longer

00:17:26.300 you'll remember it let's do a quick test here um have you been in a car accident that was more than

00:17:32.140 10 or 20 years ago uh no not that i can recall no okay uh we'll do another test here uh can

00:17:44.120 where were you on september 11th oh yeah about that i know uh two two vivid places i know exactly

00:17:50.400 where i was yeah tell me about so one uh i was supposed to go into work that morning and i woke

00:17:59.580 up and i hit snooze when my radio turned on it turned on to the news nothing came on i hit snooze

00:18:06.080 when it went back on i heard them talking about the the towers being struck so that was the first

00:18:13.640 memory the second memory of that day was me being in a retail clothing store that i was managing

00:18:19.420 in the mall and the entire mall had shut down and i refused to shut down i kept my store open

00:18:26.120 the entire i was the only store that was open in the mall that day and i sold maybe two pairs of

00:18:30.740 shoes uh but i refused to shut the store down that day and i was the i sent all my employees

00:18:35.260 home and i said i'll just hang out here by myself and so those are the two memories that come to

00:18:39.680 mind of where i was on on 9-11 yeah and that was 25 years ago and 25 years ago you remember said

00:18:48.100 I mean, how many days do you remember setting your – you probably set snooze thousands of times.

00:18:53.140 Right, yeah.

00:18:53.740 But that day, you remember.

00:18:55.540 25 years ago, crystal clear recall.

00:18:58.560 Now I ask you or – if somebody said, Ron, where were you on September 11th?

00:19:02.580 I could do the same thing.

00:19:03.820 But if they said, Ron, where were you October 25th of that year?

00:19:07.060 I'm like, are you kidding me?

00:19:08.020 I have no idea.

00:19:08.820 Yeah. If something has emotion or action like a car accident or like 9-11, our brains say, hey, this is something we need to remember.

00:19:19.740 And it kind of stores it in your long term memory. Otherwise, you know, you have this working memory of six, seven seconds, something like that.

00:19:26.920 And our brain's constantly forgetting stuff. Unless I talk about it right now and I'm going to, we in a year we would never remember.

00:19:35.220 we could, I couldn't get my camera going at the beginning. Right. Yeah. It wasn't memorable. So

00:19:41.000 that's why we have the plant falling over. That's why I try to make a joke. And I say, imagine the

00:19:47.000 Raiders winning the Superbowl, right? That you got to have imagination for that because I'm trying

00:19:50.980 to make these things more memorable. It's interesting because when you were talking

00:19:55.520 about the clock on the hutch, what came to mind, you said grandfather clock. What came to mind for

00:20:02.240 me is we had this tall six foot clock when I was growing up and it was one of those you know

00:20:07.540 grandfather clocks that you would think of and I remember listening to that chime you know every

00:20:13.260 every hour that chime that would come on and that actually when you said that I could hear it in my

00:20:19.080 in my head I could hear the chime going off as a young boy it was very nostalgic and I liked it

00:20:26.520 but I hadn't thought about that for you know 40 years or whatever 30 years let's say

00:20:31.360 exactly a hundred percent but there's something about that nostalgia and that sound and the fact

00:20:39.360 that you were able to bring that back and bring that emotion back and the sound back made it more

00:20:45.340 likely that you remembered it how do you feel this is i mean this is your work right and so

00:20:50.480 you're looking for all these heuristics you're looking for these these systems these ideas to

00:20:56.460 be able to recall memory, you know, from somebody who's out there and they're trying to lead their

00:21:01.340 family or they're trying to grow their business and just live life. In what ways do you feel like

00:21:07.660 being able to recall memory are the most applicable in the ordinary day of a man who

00:21:14.520 might be listening to this podcast? Yeah. So let's, well, first of all, we covered one. Now

00:21:21.320 let's cover the why of that. You know, when you can stand up in front of a group and give a speech

00:21:26.800 or a presentation and not use any notes, it makes you more credible. It makes you appear more

00:21:31.100 knowledgeable. You're able to connect with the audience more. It's just a smoother, more

00:21:36.640 charismatic, powerful presentation if you're not reading your PowerPoint. So that's number one,

00:21:43.840 what we just did. But let's move to another example. You know, the person who could meet

00:21:48.400 somebody today, whether you meet them at the gym or you meet them, you know, at your church or at

00:21:52.880 the store or through a business meeting, network meeting, whatever. And then six weeks later or

00:21:57.660 six days later, you remember their name. You know, Zig Ziglar used to say everybody's favorite

00:22:03.140 subject is themselves. Dale Carnegie said everybody's favorite subject is themselves.

00:22:08.120 And the sweetest sound of the ear is the sound of their own name. Zig Ziglar said people don't

00:22:12.340 care how much you know until they first know how much you care. He's an idol of my Zig Ziglar

00:22:17.980 stuff is incredible yeah it is he's a he's a great guy i or he was he was a great guy i didn't really

00:22:26.160 ever develop a strong friendship with zig um he called me once believe it or not left a message

00:22:32.280 on my voicemail because i had i had done i had said i had attempted a world record in memory and

00:22:38.980 somebody in his company knew me and so they had called but i never got to know zig but i i am

00:22:44.820 great friends with his son, Tom.

00:22:46.960 Tom's a good friend.

00:22:49.800 But, you know, Zig said

00:22:50.760 people don't care how much you know until they first know how much you care.

00:22:55.740 And Dale

00:22:56.880 Carnegie talked about the value of remembering names.

00:22:58.980 To answer your question, I guess,

00:23:00.900 when you remember a name, it's going to help you in life

00:23:03.000 and business build relationships.

00:23:05.080 And today we have so much information.

00:23:06.920 You know, we have to learn. There's so much, especially

00:23:08.760 with AI, you know, there's

00:23:10.420 we're overwhelmed with stuff

00:23:13.060 that is out there to remember.

00:23:15.640 So if you can learn faster or it's going to help you be more productive

00:23:19.960 or you listen to your podcast.

00:23:22.340 One of your listeners is listening to your podcast, watching your podcast,

00:23:25.700 and then they want to remember four or five key points from it.

00:23:29.360 That's the time they've invested in this podcast actually becomes more valuable

00:23:33.360 because a week from now or two weeks from now they can remember what they learn.

00:23:37.680 So there's so many things.

00:23:38.980 I truly believe that memory is not about remembering your grocery list.

00:23:43.060 It's about becoming – having a more rich life.

00:23:47.020 Well, I think you bring up a good point about the grocery list.

00:23:49.540 Like I don't really need to memorize that.

00:23:51.100 I can just write it down.

00:23:52.340 Like I don't –

00:23:53.200 Right.

00:23:53.500 Right.

00:23:53.740 And so I think there is some bandwidth issues with the brain.

00:23:56.820 You can correct me if I'm wrong where it's like I don't – well, we do this all the time, right?

00:24:00.340 We look for patterns.

00:24:01.220 We look for things that we acknowledge and recognize so that our brain doesn't have to use so much computing power.

00:24:09.640 So I – okay.

00:24:10.200 So I've got a lot of questions.

00:24:11.100 So I definitely want to get back to the point that you made about memorizing or at least remembering presentations, because that would be very applicable for me.

00:24:21.480 And I know a lot of guys who are listening, but you also said something about remembering names.

00:24:25.900 One thing that just kind of irks me, for lack of a better term, is when I cringe a little bit when people say, well, I'm not good with names.

00:24:33.740 And I'm like, wait, are you not good with names because your brain isn't capable of doing it?

00:24:39.980 Or are you not good with names because you tell yourself you're not good at remembering names when it's very simple to say, you know, to come up with some sort of association where you can start to remember people's names.

00:24:53.000 You know, for example, if I knew you were a Harry Potter fan and your name is Ron, I'm like, oh, Ron Weasley's in Harry Potter.

00:25:01.200 Ron, there's Ron. He's the Harry Potter guy. I remember him.

00:25:04.140 But people don't take the effort to do that, it seems like.

00:25:07.120 They just say, well, I'm not good with names. It's lazy.

00:25:12.340 Yeah, you have to be intentional about memory and you have to be intentional about name memory.

00:25:19.600 And it takes a little bit of time to get good at it.

00:25:23.620 You know, the first part of being intentional doesn't take any time.

00:25:26.340 You can start being intentional today.

00:25:28.480 You know, I walk up to you and I say, hi, my name is Ron.

00:25:30.720 You say, your name is Ryan.

00:25:31.980 And then two seconds later, I don't know your name.

00:25:34.180 That's not because I have a bad memory.

00:25:36.140 That's because I wasn't listening.

00:25:37.840 And I was.

00:25:38.640 I would always listen to you.

00:25:40.520 But you get the point.

00:25:41.660 I'm trying not to put anybody else on the spot here.

00:25:44.100 I'm trying to put me on the spot.

00:25:45.860 When your listeners are introduced to somebody and they don't know somebody

00:25:49.500 two seconds later. It's not because their memory is bad. It's because they weren't listening

00:25:53.160 and not listening in a, in a, in a selfish, uh, ego way. It's just our habit. We walk up to

00:26:00.940 somebody and we're thinking, what do I think of them? What do they think of me? Have I seen them

00:26:04.500 before? What business deals are we going to talk about? What product should I tell them about? Hey,

00:26:08.620 my name is Ron. Hi, my name is Ryan. And I never even hear it because I got all this other chatter

00:26:13.300 going on in my mind. Really the first thing that you have to do is you have to calm that chatter

00:26:18.900 And you can calm that chatter by a well-worded question.

00:26:22.660 Brian Tracy wrote a book 25 years ago called Focal Point.

00:26:26.040 And in that book, he said two things focus your brain.

00:26:31.040 He said pressing problems.

00:26:33.480 Completely agree with that.

00:26:35.680 The second one he said is well-worded questions.

00:26:38.720 And when I read that in that book, I kind of set the book down and I said, how do I apply this to memory?

00:26:43.400 Like remembering names.

00:26:44.580 How can I apply well-worded questions to remembering names?

00:26:47.420 and what I came up with and it's worked for me for 25 years is when I walk towards somebody I

00:26:53.840 need to be focused so I ask myself the question what is their name what is their name what is

00:26:58.800 their name I don't know the answer but I do know that when I get their name five seconds later

00:27:04.360 my brain is listening and that is a first critical step to remembering names it's hearing it

00:27:10.540 yeah i i like that i mean i often talk with guys uh about what like you said calming your mind but

00:27:17.960 also just paying attention and not being so distracted and what and what can you eliminate

00:27:22.400 from your life because i've seen so many men who like you said you might go to a conference and

00:27:27.360 if i know i'm going to meet a thousand people uh it's going to be harder for me to focus on

00:27:33.080 the people that i'm meeting in in the current moment and i think that might actually be a

00:27:37.240 byproduct of modernity right where we're so connected we're we're so inundated there's so

00:27:44.400 many accounts that we follow there's so many podcasts that we listen to where we have just

00:27:50.680 not we have lost the ability to discern and focus in my mind from on the things that we actually

00:27:57.980 value and are important to us yeah yeah you have to focus you you have if you're not if you're not

00:28:06.200 everything, everything else doesn't matter. If you're not, you got to be intentional about life.

00:28:09.920 You got to be intentional about giving a speech without notes. You got to be intentional about

00:28:12.880 remembering names. You have to be intentional about everything. The next real step on remembering

00:28:18.240 names, you know, let's say we meet this guy right here. He walks up to us. So it's, what's his name?

00:28:24.140 What's his name? What's his name? He gets right about here. The next part of it is identical to

00:28:29.380 what we did with your room. When we, when we, when we memorize that speech around your room,

00:28:34.420 we picked locations and then we took what we wanted to remember and we attached it to the

00:28:39.840 location. When you want to remember a name, it's identically the same. This face becomes a mind

00:28:46.720 palace. And we pick a location on the face that we're going to attach the information to. And

00:28:53.840 it's best if you pick the most prominent, outstanding, unique feature that grabs your

00:29:00.480 your eye right away so if you met him what would his unique feature be i mean it's a little bit

00:29:05.240 far away from me because i'm in cameras over there but what what stands out to me is the nose

00:29:08.960 yeah yeah yeah most people say that so i agree so now let's say that his name is brian okay so

00:29:18.100 right now we're thinking we're looking at that nose and we say hi my name is ron and he says

00:29:22.260 Hey, my name's Brian.

00:29:23.820 The key to name memory is not coming up with something – this guy, this Brian plays basketball, right?

00:29:36.840 So let's say Brian basketball, right?

00:29:44.400 Brian the basketball – because they both start with B, right?

00:29:46.580 Or something like that.

00:29:47.280 Sure, yeah.

00:29:47.400 sure so but what what is it might work but what is the best thing to do is to have a pitcher for

00:29:55.820 brian that you use for every brian instead of trying to make it just but and here's the reason

00:30:04.380 why you can get it helps you get faster but it's just cleaner and smoother if one brian's a

00:30:10.540 basketball and one and another brian is something else another brian is something else it could be

00:30:15.760 confusing but if you say every brian's a brain and that's every brian and now you imagine this

00:30:21.920 out of his nose because that's his distinctive feature same principle action and emotion that

00:30:26.720 brain is oozing out of his nose then as you walk away you review that you know and you

00:30:35.320 brain on his nose brian and then tomorrow you meet a guy named brian with big ears

00:30:41.940 Well, you imagine his ears are part of his brain going out that way.

00:30:45.720 Got it.

00:30:46.120 So you use the same picture for every name.

00:30:49.700 Tomorrow I'm speaking for a conference here in Arlington, Texas.

00:30:53.120 There's going to be 450 bank managers.

00:30:56.720 My speech is at about 3 o'clock.

00:30:58.740 I'll probably arrive at 10 or 11 in the morning,

00:31:00.840 and I'm just going to mingle with them at the break.

00:31:03.220 I'll now mingle with them in their hour lunch.

00:31:05.780 i estimate i will get about 150 names memorized in the morning and at lunch and it's not even

00:31:13.700 and i'm gonna get up if i could just jump in but like what i'm hearing you say is

00:31:17.840 so correct me if i'm wrong and i don't want to discount your work by any means

00:31:21.320 i it doesn't even sound like you're memorizing as much as you're just associating with what you

00:31:27.320 have locked in already is that safe to say i guess i think so you're taking you're taking

00:31:34.060 what you want to remember and you're putting it somewhere in your brain where you can go back and

00:31:38.820 get it later. For example, I'll meet that 150 people tomorrow and some people I'll store their

00:31:44.600 name on their nose, some on their ears, some on their beard, some on their hair, whatever stands

00:31:48.720 out to me. Then when I get up on the stage, I'll say, if you're one of the 150 people I met, stand

00:31:53.180 up. 150 people stand up. I'll jump off the stage and I'll just, I'll go through the audience and

00:31:59.340 i'll start looking for their distinctive features uh that guy was his nose there was a brain on his 1.00

00:32:04.260 nose and i'll say brian you can sit down the next person the woman has pretty eyes and i had to

00:32:10.220 imagine a missile shooting out of her eyes and i'll say michelle you can sit down but i'll do it 1.00

00:32:14.720 really fast i'll probably be able to say 150 names and in in 200 seconds you know so it'll

00:32:20.860 it'll go really fast that's amazing but i'm taking the name turning it into a picture and storing it

00:32:27.640 on a location on their face is this the same system you use because i know that you have a

00:32:33.260 couple world records and and if i understand correctly one is the you you have you hold the

00:32:39.000 record for the the person who has been able to fastest recall a deck of cards and based on what

00:32:45.240 you're saying i imagine that you have a image for let's say the three of spades for example is that

00:32:52.240 Is that correct?

00:32:55.320 Correct, yes.

00:32:56.360 What's the image for the three of spades? 0.67

00:32:59.400 It's Uncle Sam.

00:33:01.000 Why is it that?

00:33:01.860 Yeah, I'm curious.

00:33:03.900 Yeah, so I held the record for the – I held some USA records.

00:33:09.060 I held the record for the fastest to memorize a deck of cards in the United States and the record for the most numbers memorized in five minutes in the United States.

00:33:16.500 And I held a – it was another USA record, an 800-digit number in an hour.

00:33:21.080 And the way I do all of these is I have a picture for a number or I have a picture for a deck of cards.

00:33:30.720 And so every digit, zero to nine, is assigned a sound.

00:33:37.960 And this is a technique known as the major system.

00:33:41.160 It's not something that I – I didn't assign these sounds to these digits.

00:33:45.460 It goes back at least 200 or 300 years.

00:33:47.760 There's a guy named Gregor von Feingel, and it was a German guy, and Amy Paris was a French guy.

00:33:54.580 But they determined that zero is the sa sound, and I'm only going to go up to three.

00:34:01.720 Zero is the sa sound.

00:34:03.520 One is the ta sound, T, and a T has one downstroke. 0.73

00:34:10.560 Right.

00:34:10.980 A T has one stroke. 0.99

00:34:12.440 Got it. 1.00

00:34:13.020 Two is N. 1.00

00:34:14.140 An N has two downstrokes. 1.00

00:34:17.460 Got it. 0.97

00:34:17.760 Three is M, kind of the same principle there a little bit, right?

00:34:25.760 So what I did was for numbers and cards, but for let's go to cards because that's what you asked.

00:34:35.040 I assigned two, my numbers, two through 14 to spades because the two of spades would be assigned to the number two.

00:34:47.760 The eight of spades would be a sign of the number eight.

00:34:50.700 The jack of spades was 11.

00:34:53.000 Queen of spades was 12.

00:34:55.020 13 of spades was king.

00:34:56.380 And 14 of spades was ace.

00:35:00.480 And I'll go through the other three suits very quickly.

00:35:04.440 22 to 34 was two of hearts to ace of hearts.

00:35:09.900 42 to 54 was diamonds.

00:35:13.640 Two of diamonds to ace of diamonds.

00:35:15.660 And 62 to 74 was clubs.

00:35:17.760 um the the so that the two of clubs would have been 62 the three of clubs would have been 63 so

00:35:24.400 I for the first thing I did is I assigned them numbers right so the 64 was the four of clubs

00:35:30.200 and this I'm this for everybody that I'm losing right now hang with me for 30 seconds this is

00:35:36.640 actually very simple I know because what I'm here like when I'm as you're saying this I'm like okay

00:35:41.820 and I'm trying not to be insensitive I'm actually very curious about that we can get to this

00:35:46.000 Is this how somebody with an advanced level of, for example, autism's brain works?

00:35:53.220 Like I'm actually really curious about the brain and how it works between somebody with autism versus somebody who doesn't and like things like that I'm curious about too.

00:36:03.160 So I'm not trying to be insulting or insensitive.

00:36:05.300 I'm just curious about how it works.

00:36:06.680 yeah when somebody you know has autism or something like that um they are just naturally

00:36:15.920 seeing things and doing things in their brain that they're not even

00:36:19.660 having to work at you know yeah you know perhaps they are giving meaning to numbers and cards that

00:36:29.140 they're not even really aware of but guys like me and most people who compete in memory tournaments

00:36:34.700 We are purposefully having to give – in order to remember something, you have to make the nonsensical sensical.

00:36:43.240 So three of spades, that's kind of nonsensical.

00:36:46.020 What is that?

00:36:46.320 What does that even mean?

00:36:46.940 Yeah, exactly.

00:36:49.080 So let's take the three of spades and let's make it sensical and something that we can lock on to like the Uncle Sam.

00:36:57.880 So I mentioned that three is M, right?

00:37:02.040 Yep. 0.99

00:37:02.880 And zero is Suh. 0.86

00:37:04.400 So my number system goes 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 2, 0, 3. 0.95

00:37:12.560 So the spades are assigned to 0, 2, 0, 3, 0, 4, 0, 5, 0, 6, 0, 7, 0, 8, 0, 9, 10, and then 11.

00:37:21.660 12, 13, 14.

00:37:22.400 So the spades is 0, 3.

00:37:29.520 Okay.

00:37:30.380 Spades, or excuse me, the three of spades is 0, 3.

00:37:33.500 Right.

00:37:33.780 Well, zero is suh, three is muh, M, Sam. 0.92

00:37:42.080 So I went – now you may say, well, Ron, I don't want the three of spades to be Uncle Sam. 0.86

00:37:49.840 I don't want to use the – 0.66

00:37:50.620 Yeah, make it whatever you want it to be.

00:37:52.480 Make it whatever.

00:37:53.440 You've got a three-year-old niece and you think that's great. 0.65

00:37:59.120 Make three of spades your three-year-old niece.

00:38:01.100 but i have a a sound for every digit and this helps me for example i would 22 so the two of

00:38:09.480 hearts is is is assigned to the number 22 right well two is in right remember two down strokes

00:38:18.100 so with 22 i have n well following that logic the my picture for the number 22 should be a none

00:38:25.520 or and my picture for the two of hearts should be a none that's what i was thinking nanny

00:38:29.820 nanny is what came to mind for me sure but i get it i get the concept all right man just

00:38:35.840 stepping away from the conversation briefly we'll get right back to it uh before we get to that i

00:38:40.440 do want to invite you to our next war room now this is a free live workshop that we host every

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00:40:08.200 be held october 14th at 8 p.m eastern but for now let's get back to it ron yeah that's great

00:40:15.700 And then Emmett Smith, his number was 22, and so I actually use Emmett Smith for 22.

00:40:25.160 So you don't have to necessarily use the major system, which is what it's called.

00:40:31.000 But then how do you – OK, so I get that.

00:40:33.740 Like every number has an image, right?

00:40:36.100 So 22 is Emmett Smith and three of spades is Uncle Sam.

00:40:41.100 Then how do you put it in order?

00:40:44.500 Because, like, okay, so you might say, well, Uncle Sam is playing a football game against Emmett Smith, but you've got 52 cards that you're not just memorizing the imagery, you're also memorizing the order, which is another magnitude of memorization.

00:41:02.880 Yeah, so it goes back to exactly how we memorize that speech.

00:41:08.720 You use the mind palace or you use the memory palace technique here.

00:41:13.760 So I'll tell you the most basic way to do this, and then I'll tell you the advanced way.

00:41:18.100 The advanced way is how I set the record for the fastest in the United States.

00:41:22.540 The most basic way, though, and it's the same core principle.

00:41:26.360 The most basic way is you number 52 pieces of furniture in your house.

00:41:30.300 Okay.

00:41:30.800 And you've got these down cold.

00:41:32.320 I mean, you could walk through your house forwards and backwards and know I'm cold.

00:41:36.780 Then you pick up the deck of cards, and the first card is a three of spades.

00:41:41.420 Boom.

00:41:41.900 Now you've got Uncle Sam running down your stairs, right?

00:41:46.540 The next card that gets played is the two of hearts. 0.55

00:41:50.540 So maybe you see a nanny on your hutch, you know, throwing books at you or whatever, or Emmett Smith jumping through with a football.

00:41:58.120 Either way. 0.58

00:41:59.920 Then you set the cards down and you recall the deck and you go back and you think Uncle Sam, three of spades, Emmett Smith, two of hearts or a nanny or whatever.

00:42:10.420 to do it that way you'd need 52 pieces of furniture it would be effective the a person

00:42:16.740 could probably get to where they could do it that way you could memorize a deck of cards in

00:42:20.700 four or five minutes i would imagine the first time i ever tried it that way i did it in about

00:42:24.880 six minutes um but it was my first attempt i probably could have got down to i mean that

00:42:29.660 even that sounds fast i i don't even know if i could do it that's not you said six minutes i'm

00:42:33.640 like that sounds faster than i could even do it so that's that's incredible yeah it it would it

00:42:39.840 would, it would take, you would have to have pictures for it. It would take, it would take

00:42:43.880 prep work. You'd need to number 52 pieces of furniture and you'd need to create pictures

00:42:48.660 for all the cards. But if you did those two things, you could. Now I'll share with you

00:42:53.820 the more advanced way. We have it. We have a picture for three of spades and the two

00:42:59.340 of hearts. Let's, let's do, uh, pick another card for me. Uh, Jack of clubs. Jack of clubs.

00:43:09.240 So for me, clubs are 62 through 74.

00:43:14.140 Why?

00:43:15.200 It doesn't have to be that way.

00:43:17.680 But I wanted to make it where the two of hearts corresponded to a number that ended in two.

00:43:26.120 So I started with 22.

00:43:27.580 It just made it more intuitive for me because that made the seven of hearts 27, the eight of hearts 28, the nine of hearts 29.

00:43:35.140 So they ended in nine, so it was more intuitive.

00:43:37.940 So 62 through 74, I made clubs.

00:43:43.120 So what that means is the two of clubs is 62.

00:43:46.700 The three of clubs is 63 and so on.

00:43:48.420 Well, under that, the 71 would be the jack of clubs under that system that I created.

00:43:59.700 My image, the sounds, I didn't create this. 0.92

00:44:03.020 The sounds for seven is kuh, a K sound. 0.94

00:44:07.100 If you look at a – let's say this is a 7 right here. 0.99

00:44:10.500 A 7 is like this, I guess.

00:44:13.760 If you kind of move that down right there and put another line out, it kind of looks like a K. 0.55

00:44:17.400 I can see that.

00:44:18.280 Use your imagination.

00:44:18.920 No, I can see that.

00:44:19.680 You have to use your imagination.

00:44:21.620 So 71 is the K, and we already decided 1 is T, right?

00:44:26.320 So I have – for 71 for me is a cat.

00:44:31.160 I was going to say cat.

00:44:32.360 So that's interesting.

00:44:33.580 I get what you're saying though.

00:44:35.860 Perfect.

00:44:36.340 Kite is better.

00:44:36.880 Let's go with Kite. So now this is something called character action object. And I can explain

00:44:44.400 this in 90 seconds. I don't want to get too deep into the weeds on this because most people,

00:44:49.880 I just don't want to, I don't want to lose people here, but stick with us. You got 90 seconds. And

00:44:54.960 I think this is going to be very interesting to you. So we've got the three of spades for each

00:45:00.760 one of these cards, we need a character, an action, and an object. Our character for the

00:45:07.080 three of spades, excuse me, our character, yeah, our character for the three of spades

00:45:11.340 is Uncle Sam. Right. For action, I have pointing. That's what Uncle Sam does. Pointing. I need

00:45:16.720 you. Uncle Sam pointing. I need you. Character, action, object. Character, Uncle Sam. Action,

00:45:23.920 pointing. Object, let's just say the American flag. Character, action, object. Uncle Sam

00:45:29.240 pointing at the flag. 22. A nanny. The two of hearts. Nanny cooking for the kids. Nanny

00:45:40.100 character action cooking for the kids object. A kite. A kite flying in the wind. Character

00:45:50.080 action object. Now, this is where it all falls together. Three cards get played.

00:45:55.960 The Two of Hearts 0.83

00:46:00.100 Nanny 0.93

00:46:01.260 The Three of Spades

00:46:03.540 It's the second one in the sequence

00:46:05.760 So we don't take the character

00:46:08.140 For the second one in the sequence

00:46:09.440 We take the action

00:46:10.820 Uncle Sam is pointing

00:46:13.940 Right? 0.99

00:46:15.000 So the Two of Hearts is a nanny 0.99

00:46:16.760 The Three of Spades 0.94

00:46:18.200 The action was pointing

00:46:19.900 So now we got Danny pointing

00:46:22.260 In the wind

00:46:22.940 And then

00:46:24.960 Danny pointing at the wind.

00:46:26.380 There you go.

00:46:27.040 Interesting.

00:46:27.760 Very good.

00:46:29.220 So what this enables you to do is now you can put three cards on your staircase, right, instead of just one.

00:46:37.940 Now you can memorize a deck of cards with 18 pieces of furniture, not 52, and that's when you get into the territory of, hey, I'm going to break a United States record, which is what I did in 2009.

00:46:48.920 Now, one more thing I'll say on this, and then I'll close my mouth.

00:46:52.880 You may say, well, Ron, why do we have to do character action object?

00:46:56.120 Why couldn't I just see the three, the picture?

00:46:58.560 Why couldn't I just see Uncle Sam and a nanny and a kite all on the stairs?

00:47:02.340 You could.

00:47:03.360 And when you go back around to repeat the deck of cards, you would remember all three are there.

00:47:07.860 But you might get the order mixed up.

00:47:10.840 Character action object makes it impossible for you to get the order mixed up because, you know, the first one's a character, the next one's the action, and the third one's the object.

00:47:18.420 Right.

00:47:18.760 so you assign basically you're assigning three different values for lack of better term

00:47:23.840 to each card is what you're doing and then based on where it fits in a sequence of three

00:47:29.620 you know if it's a one two or three in that in that sequence

00:47:33.080 100 and you could memorize if if in a character in character action objects a little bit intense

00:47:42.800 so i'm glad we got into it but i don't want to stress people out either for sure um how's that

00:47:48.100 going to help them you know it's good it's you know helping with numbers a little bit because

00:47:51.800 we you also just created images for the number zero three two two seven one right so you could

00:47:59.380 memorize a you could also memorize a six-digit number you could memorize number six digits at

00:48:04.000 a time that way well i i think it makes sense like if you just actually think just a little bit about

00:48:09.460 how it might apply to the layman situation when you were talking about that little guy that you

00:48:13.960 had that face that you had and his name's brian immediately what came to mind is we've got a ski

00:48:18.760 resort in brian head which is about an hour north of me and so everybody who's brian now i can

00:48:25.040 automatically say oh that guy skis with me in brian head and then i just know it's brian right

00:48:30.600 like that's that's fascinating okay so i have a question though about um music because you know

00:48:38.220 if you take for elementary school students, you know, the ABCs, right? We sing the ABCs. It seems

00:48:47.900 like if you sing it, you can memorize it. Or you sing about the 50 states and you learn the 50

00:48:53.620 states or all the presidents through song. What is it about song that helps people memorize things

00:49:00.140 more than just spoken word? Yeah. So a song, a couple of different things. A song can invoke

00:49:11.440 emotion, right? You get it in a rhythm and you're happy and you're moving. It can invoke emotion

00:49:16.740 and emotion syncs something in your memory. It also creates expectation. One verse leads to the

00:49:25.560 next verse. It kind of, you say that verse and then whether it rhymes or something else, it's

00:49:32.000 kind of creates an expectation for what is next. You know, people will say, oh, I could, I, you

00:49:37.800 know, I was driving in my car a year, a couple of years ago and I, and Ice Ice Baby came on the radio,

00:49:42.500 you know, back popular, you know, in the nineties. And I'm starting singing Ice Ice Baby. And I

00:49:46.180 guarantee you, I don't drive around listening to, but I knew every word. Why can't we remember

00:49:51.860 every words to a song 30 years ago. The rhythm, the emotion, but you got to think about it too.

00:49:59.280 There was a lot of repetition in it. We remember these songs because of the repetition. We sing

00:50:04.680 them over and over again. In 1993, I go to a dance club, Ice Ice Baby's playing. I go to my friend's

00:50:11.380 house, Ice Ice Baby's playing. I'm driving in my car with my friend and he's playing Ice Ice Baby.

00:50:15.800 repetition emotion the expectation that's created based on the rhyme or the beat it kind of leads

00:50:23.580 to the to the next one and i think those are probably the three primary reasons how do you

00:50:27.920 how do you use the and that all makes sense but how do you use the concept of memory to

00:50:33.220 you know a lot of people for example have have like a to-do list right and so i i think you know

00:50:40.240 i i spend time every day and i write what i need to do on a daily basis um but then there's also

00:50:45.380 things that maybe I forget to write down or I'm not in the position where I can actually write it

00:50:50.240 down at some point. Do you use some of these techniques to remember, hey, my wife told me to

00:50:55.900 pick up a gallon of milk on the way home. That client told me to call him this afternoon at two

00:51:02.260 o'clock. Do you feel like you can use that in a very practical application for these to do items

00:51:08.480 that maybe you forget or neglect writing down and having a system for? Yeah. So what I would

00:51:15.160 recommend people do is create a mind palace that you use just for your things to do list. So let's

00:51:21.340 say you number 10 spots on your car. Number one is the front bumper. Number two is the engine.

00:51:26.740 Three is the windshield. Four is the steering wheel. Five is the radio. Six is the passenger

00:51:31.220 seat. Seven is the back seat. Eight is the bed of the truck or the trunk of the car, whatever you

00:51:36.820 want. And then nine is the bumper or trailer hitch and 10 is the wheels or something. So you could do

00:51:44.020 that with your car you could do it with your body number one's top of your head two's nose three's

00:51:48.080 mouth four's your ribs five's your belly button and now you're going throughout the day and somebody

00:51:54.140 says hey don't don't forget to that your wife your wife wanted you to grab the milk at the store

00:51:59.880 well either you use your body or your car let's say you're using your body oh you imagine a milk

00:52:07.060 you're attaching it to the top of your head and then throughout the day somebody says hey don't

00:52:10.400 forget to call that guy at 2 p.m. For me, the number two is a duck because a duck is neck.

00:52:16.800 It looks like a two. Yeah, it does. Yeah. So now I got a duck going up this nostril,

00:52:22.320 a duck going out this nostril. And if somebody, if I said, oh man, I got to change my oil,

00:52:28.260 don't forget that. Boom, oil's going out my mouth. So I would just attach it to my body or maybe

00:52:33.240 spots in my truck, but use my body or my truck every day. I'm driving in the car and somebody,

00:52:39.500 i'm on i'm on the phone i can't write anything down and they're telling me things i need to

00:52:43.860 remember i'll imagine the first thing they tell me is on my bumper the next thing is on the engine

00:52:48.320 the next is on the windshield this isn't so i actually when you were talking about that one

00:52:52.920 thing came to mind is when i was younger i always had a hard time memorizing the four

00:52:57.460 uh firearm safety rules and i was like how how can i remember this and i did it sequentially so

00:53:04.680 the first firearm safety rule is treat every gun as if it's loaded so if somebody were to hand me

00:53:09.620 a gun that's the first thing that's the first step they hand me a gun treat every gun as if it's

00:53:13.500 loaded and then i work from the barrel to the butt so the barrel is second number two is never point

00:53:20.300 your gun at anything you don't intend to shoot then we work further back the gun number three

00:53:25.900 is keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire and then number four is once all of

00:53:32.360 that. So we keep working back. Now it's on me. I never point, um, my gun at, or excuse me, um,

00:53:39.080 know my target and what's behind it. So it like using those sequential,

00:53:45.720 sequential systems for associating with something has seemed to help me, but I never even really

00:53:52.660 considered it as an intentional thought. It's very interesting. And I also hear you saying,

00:53:58.680 getting the other senses involved right whether it's taste touch sound feel smell etc

00:54:04.560 yeah the more you can involve that the more likely you will remember it because it'll make the image

00:54:11.820 the the item stronger in your memory absolutely yeah and and so how else do you see this applying

00:54:19.420 so you know to-do list tasks that you need to complete around the house or with your spouse or

00:54:25.840 memorizing names or, you know, one of the things that you mentioned earlier, and I don't think we

00:54:30.320 actually circled back to it, is how do I remember a presentation and the integral parts of a

00:54:35.800 presentation that I might be listening to? Whether it's my boss talking to me at a daily briefing

00:54:39.640 or me going to some sort of seminar and investing two or three days to be at this thing that I want

00:54:46.800 to learn about. Yeah, so great, great, great, great, great topic. So let's, this is what I would do.

00:54:55.840 I, you have five pieces of furniture numbered in this room and this is what I'm encouraging

00:55:00.460 everybody to do. Pick five in the room that you're in, you know, look at the doorway,

00:55:04.520 wherever the doorway is, imagine yourself. And we didn't do that exactly here, but it worked fine.

00:55:09.100 Right. But in general, the way I say to do it is you're in the doorway, start in the doorway. Why?

00:55:15.120 Because it's, it's a natural starting point of walking into the room. You're in the doorway

00:55:19.600 and then just go around the room clockwise. Or if it's more intuitive for you to go counter

00:55:24.600 clockwise do it it doesn't matter the only thing that matters is that it is a path around the room

00:55:30.880 and you're not making one over here two over here three over here and four here so pick five in this

00:55:37.020 room go to the next room stand in the doorway that next room is six through ten go to the next room

00:55:43.280 the rooms that are connected do it as if you're walking around the house the next room 11 through

00:55:48.480 15, the next room 16 through 20, the next room 21 through 25. Then get to where you can say these

00:55:55.320 forwards and backwards. You're falling asleep at night and instead of counting sheep for the next

00:55:59.340 couple of days, you're just running through 25, 1 to 25, 25 to 1. Once you have those cold,

00:56:06.040 write out your speech, write out the 10 or 15 things that you want to talk about,

00:56:10.260 walk around your house. You don't even have to walk around your house. You can just sit in your

00:56:14.140 chair and imagine your house. But put these 15, 20 things around the furniture in your house.

00:56:21.240 And then when you're up on stage, give your speech without using any notes, just as we did

00:56:25.200 the first five in your room. Now let's flip it around. You said you go to a conference. You

00:56:31.360 spend two or three days at a conference. You've paid $2,000, $1,000, probably $2,000 if you flew

00:56:36.940 there and you got hotels. Yeah. So take notes in the conference. Don't try to memorize as the

00:56:44.300 speaker's speaking. Take notes in the conference like you wouldn't have notes or like you don't

00:56:50.080 have a memory system. Take notes. But then when you get your notes, you just reverse engineer it.

00:56:56.320 It's not you giving the speech. It's you memorizing the key points to this person's

00:57:00.620 speech. Take the key points and put them around your mind palace that way. You could make the

00:57:11.440 room that you're in a mind palace. You're at a conference in San Diego. You're at a hotel in San

00:57:17.540 Diego. You got 15 things. When you think about this conference, you always want to think about

00:57:22.380 that room. You could do that. And you hear the caution in my voice. You could do that.

00:57:30.620 the benefit to it is, is whenever you think of the conference, you think of that room.

00:57:35.540 So that works perfect. The drawback to that is it's not a, you may never go to that place again.

00:57:42.400 It's not a strong location in your memory. So what I may do in that scenario is if I was dead

00:57:49.380 set on doing it, and it's not a bad idea. It's actually a good idea. If you take this step,

00:57:54.260 You're at the conference, get your cell phone and walk around the hotel and take 15 or 20 pictures, the escalator, the sign-in booth, the water table, the door, the speaker, the stage, the podium, the light, the vent, the product sales table.

00:58:15.940 Then put these 15, 20 pictures in an order around in a PowerPoint.

00:58:21.940 so now you will never get them mixed up even if you never go back there and then memorize it so

00:58:27.760 you always can review it and then attach the the stuff to that so that's two ways attach it to your

00:58:33.040 own home or attach it to the room you learned it in but you're going to need but make sure you

00:58:37.780 really and if you don't want to take pictures just get yourself a notebook and and write out what the

00:58:42.860 room looks like and number it one to twenty well and it seems like you can always not always maybe

00:58:48.280 but every room has some similarities, right? So when I walk into a conference, there is the

00:58:54.100 entranceway. Um, and then on the right hand side, there might be a wall with some sconces and some

00:59:00.380 lighting. And then in the front, there's the, there's the, usually it's going to be a banner

00:59:05.020 or some sort of marketing material, and then it'll be a stage and then a banner or a TV.

00:59:08.420 And then the other wall, like every room pretty much has the same, uh, components of, of the room.

00:59:16.960 Right. And so maybe you can look at it that way, I guess.

00:59:20.400 I don't know.

00:59:22.300 You certainly could.

00:59:23.540 And also keep in mind that if you go to four different conferences and you use the registration table four different times, you may get – you may start confusing them.

00:59:42.060 Consulating them. Yeah, I can see that.

00:59:43.800 so what you to to avoid that you still could use four registration tables but pay real attention

00:59:52.500 to them oh this had a banner it was a blue banner i'm going to focus on that blue banner

00:59:56.660 oh this registration table had a million pens right there this registration table they had

01:00:02.000 three chairs behind it so just focus on what makes each one different yeah that makes sense

01:00:08.980 I think what's on at the underlying of this is definitely association to things outside of just a name.

01:00:15.920 Like, what does it sound like?

01:00:17.420 What does it feel like?

01:00:19.000 You know, what, where, where are you when you're associating with this person or this thing you're trying to memorize?

01:00:25.580 Yeah, I think association and then just intentionality.

01:00:30.140 But you wouldn't do that if you didn't think it was important.

01:00:32.600 And I think that's what a lot of people overlook is they overlook the fact that, you know,

01:00:37.180 I've run into people who I haven't seen for a while, and they're like, hey, Ryan, what's going on?

01:00:42.100 And that makes me feel good.

01:00:44.300 As the person who's been remembered, that makes me feel good, which ought to give us a cue that wouldn't it be nice for the other person if we remember their name, even if it was after a year or two since the last time we saw them?

01:00:59.940 100%.

01:01:00.380 It makes people feel really, really good.

01:01:02.200 Even if you're at a friend's house and somebody's just met you, hey, Ryan, good to meet you.

01:01:07.180 Then 20 minutes later, they're like, hey, Ryan, could you pass me the ketchup bottle?

01:01:10.900 It registers in your mind.

01:01:12.720 That dude just remembered my name.

01:01:14.620 Then you have to whisper to somebody else, or I do.

01:01:17.240 I'm not saying I'm not throwing you under the bus.

01:01:18.660 Then I, you know, I, hey, what was that guy's name again?

01:01:21.420 Oh, I have, I have a system for that too.

01:01:23.620 Like if I, okay, so if I were to, let's say you and I met at a conference early in the week and you, you told me your name and then I forgot it, which often people do.

01:01:35.400 uh if i was with somebody i i always tell people this if i'm with you and i introduce let's say

01:01:41.600 you ron and somebody else if i don't say your name that means to the other person that i don't

01:01:48.020 remember your name and their job is to ask so i might say hi this is this is joe and joe's like

01:01:54.240 oh wait he didn't say his name so joe's gonna say hey what's uh what's your name and then that

01:01:59.140 helps that's like a cue for me do you know what i'm saying does that make sense what i'm saying

01:02:03.740 oh yeah yeah that's a it's definitely a way and if uh uh and it happens to everybody believe me

01:02:12.760 i'm um you know i'll i'll go somewhere and people say hey what's my name i'm like man i don't

01:02:16.580 remember your name like oh you're the memory champion you spoke for us at a conference in

01:02:19.960 lake tahoe there was 500 people in the room you memorized 100 names it was seven years ago i know

01:02:24.280 you got me and i'm like dude no i don't it doesn't and you know why i don't because i didn't yeah i

01:02:30.500 knew your name seven years ago in Lake Tahoe with a hundred other people, but because I didn't

01:02:35.420 review, and this is a piece of the puzzle that's very important because I didn't review those

01:02:39.800 hundred names. There's no way I'm going to remember them seven years later, but here's

01:02:43.460 what I like to do. This is what I'll, and you can't always do it, but sometimes when I do it,

01:02:48.360 when I can, I can, I'll talk to somebody that I'll like, Hey, I'll just flat out say, Hey,

01:02:52.340 I always like to remember when I meet new people, can we get a selfie real quick?

01:02:56.020 I take a selfie.

01:02:57.280 They don't even remember a month later that I did that selfie.

01:03:00.960 But what I'll do is I'll screenshot it.

01:03:03.820 So now I've got two copies of the selfie.

01:03:05.640 I'll put it in a folder on my phone, people to remember.

01:03:09.760 The first selfie I leave alone.

01:03:11.600 I don't do anything with it.

01:03:12.580 The second selfie I write their name.

01:03:15.080 Let's say it's Brian, and I draw an arrow to the nose, right,

01:03:18.160 if it was his nose or whatever it was.

01:03:20.500 Then once a week I open up that folder.

01:03:24.740 The first selfie has nothing on it.

01:03:27.440 I say the name.

01:03:28.460 I try to guess the name.

01:03:29.800 I swipe right, and then I see if I'm right.

01:03:32.020 So it acts as flashcards.

01:03:34.760 You don't just want to type, write the name Brian and have,

01:03:37.520 because then you're just reading it again,

01:03:40.480 and you may not be remembering it again.

01:03:42.940 So I have two versions of it,

01:03:44.320 and then just swipe through your phone like that.

01:03:46.520 And if you, but you may say, well, I don't, I can't get a selfie.

01:03:49.960 That's fine.

01:03:50.900 Get yourself a journal and write the people you met in it.

01:03:53.860 Brian knows 40 years old something about him and then review that journal but you you must review

01:04:02.340 if you want to remember that's interesting all right so if you and I met at a conference and I

01:04:06.980 said hi I'm Ryan what is it that you're going to look at me and say oh like how would you remember

01:04:12.340 me what what comes to mind for you I'm just very curious about this yeah so I would uh use your

01:04:18.480 beard. Okay. You know, that's your distinctive feet. And, uh, mine used to be your, the exact

01:04:23.540 same color as yours. So, uh, hope the same thing doesn't happen. I'm not probably not far behind.

01:04:28.200 I'm, I'm seeing a lot more, more gray and white in here and I don't hate it. I don't, I don't mind

01:04:32.460 at all. Yeah. I, I, I, I wish I had that color back, but I'm not, I'm not enough to where I'm

01:04:39.280 going to dye my beard. I go as I go. But, um, uh, I would focus on your beard and then my picture

01:04:46.580 for ryan and it has nothing to do with you it's every ryan is a ray gun like on star wars a ray

01:04:52.200 gun so i would imagine we were having a ray gun war fight and you and the rays are shooting out

01:04:58.360 of your beard and i'm shooting rays back at you but i would i would try to see that and i would

01:05:03.940 and so right now as we're on this podcast i would be telling myself remember that time you were on

01:05:08.340 the podcast with ryan and a ray gun was shooting out of his beard but i'd have to consciously do

01:05:14.100 it and then consciously review it. And there was a guy named Ebbinghaus in the 1850s, 1850 to 1909

01:05:20.320 his lifespan. But he determined that he created something called the forgetting curve. And he

01:05:25.260 realized that once this podcast is over, me and you and everybody listening is going to forget

01:05:31.560 the majority of what was on this podcast in the first hour, that drop off just, and then it drops

01:05:38.900 off more tonight and more tomorrow and by 20 24 hours seven days later we're at about 20 recall

01:05:46.140 of the podcast and it can level off to right about there so what that means is is the first

01:05:51.740 hour is critical this podcast is over i got a review ray gun going out of his beard ray gun

01:05:57.040 going out of his beard tonight when i'm falling asleep i've got a review that first day that

01:06:01.580 first hour is the most critical to get it locked in yeah that makes sense is this something that

01:06:08.080 you've always been interested in did you did you grow up around these concepts and ideas like what

01:06:14.060 is it that actually got you into this line of work yeah so i was 18 years old i was three weeks out

01:06:20.640 of high school and my friend brian me and brian skiing in brian head so got it there you go and

01:06:30.140 uh brian we were we were we were 18 years old three weeks out of high school he said i got a

01:06:34.960 job at a telemarketing company? Do you want the job? And I said, yeah, I'll go. It was a chimney

01:06:39.800 sweep company. They cleaned chimneys. And one day they tore out three or four pages of the Arlington

01:06:46.220 phone book, handed it to me. If they had torn out three or four different pages and handed it to me,

01:06:51.740 I would not be on this podcast with you today. It was a complete, a little, it shows how little

01:06:59.080 bitty things can change your life. They tore out the page. They handed it to me. There was 10 people

01:07:04.000 in the room. Everybody got pages. I mean, the odds that I got that page is just astronomical.

01:07:09.400 And I started calling. I said, hey, my name is Ron. We want to clean your chimney. He said,

01:07:15.080 we don't want our chimney clean. We're trying to sell our house. I said, sir, if you're trying

01:07:18.640 to sell your house, you should have a clean chimney. He said, you know what? You're just

01:07:22.220 trying to overcome my objection. I've got a room full of telemarketers who will not overcome

01:07:26.600 objections. They just hang up the phone when they get a no. He said, I'd love to hire you. Do you

01:07:30.660 want to go to work for me i sell memory training seminars and i'll pay you more than you're making

01:07:35.760 now yeah because because you push just a little bit further he saw that and was was excited about

01:07:42.800 that yeah so it was i got that's how i got the job and i worked for him for a couple years and

01:07:48.660 then i went out on my own but i have no i have no special gift i have no special ability i was a guy

01:07:53.940 who took a job as as a memory company because they thought i was a good salesman why do that's

01:07:59.460 that's a good story i like that story why do why do people hire you what what what is the average

01:08:05.080 your average customer your average client like what is it that they're trying to accomplish

01:08:09.580 so it's more i'll be the keynote speaker for a bank and you know they just want their their

01:08:15.860 bank employees to remember the names of the people walking in they want them to remember the you know

01:08:21.860 they they're going to a training seminar they want them to remember the training uh you know a car

01:08:26.680 dealership might want to remember sales scripts or how to overcome objections. You know, somebody

01:08:31.040 says, Hey, I don't want to buy the car. I want to talk to my wife. And the car dealership has a

01:08:36.020 list. Here's what you say when they say that, but the salesman, he's like, okay, go talk to your

01:08:41.760 wife because they can't remember what to say. So they lose the sale. So, you know, remembering

01:08:47.420 scripts, remembering objections, remembering names and faces. So that's, you know, that's a big thrust

01:08:54.260 of what people purchase my course for or what they would hire me to speak for.

01:09:00.320 Be more productive in business, more productive in life.

01:09:03.420 Remember what's important to you.

01:09:05.480 Pass advancement exams.

01:09:06.980 You know, a lot of people are trying to get certified a stockbroker or a police officer

01:09:11.460 wants to get it, passes advancement exam to be the sergeant or lieutenant, but you got

01:09:15.820 these tests to take.

01:09:16.900 So it's really that kind of thing.

01:09:18.500 That's interesting.

01:09:19.180 Yeah.

01:09:19.340 as you were saying that i i like the the theme or the the trend there is you know people who don't

01:09:24.760 just want to be caught on their heels right they don't want to be caught off guard caught on their

01:09:28.580 heels you know when you were talking about the objection it's like man if i don't understand

01:09:33.280 if i don't remember the script for the objection it is that it's like okay well you know talk with

01:09:37.440 her and let me know and then you lose it so it's like not being caught on your heels and being able

01:09:42.280 to be assertive and forward and and move the needle forward which is why i can see why andy

01:09:48.520 Elliot would resonate with what you're, what you're doing is where we started the conversation

01:09:52.160 today. Uh, because he is, he's teaching sales strategy to primarily car salesmen essentially

01:09:58.620 is his background. Yeah. And that's actually how I met him. I, um, I heard that, uh, that's what

01:10:06.440 he did. I didn't, I didn't really know who he was. I've seen the social media, this guy on social

01:10:10.580 media, take your shirt off or whatever. Yeah. Let's see your six pack. Yeah. Yeah. But that's

01:10:16.140 all I knew about him. But I heard that's what he did. So here's what I did. I ordered his book,

01:10:20.900 his objections book. I don't know if I got it right here or not. I ordered his book. It's 56

01:10:26.320 objections and how to overcome them, the objection and the rebuttal. And I sat down and I recorded

01:10:32.740 myself doing it. I memorized his entire book, every rebuttal, every objection in one hour,

01:10:38.020 60 minutes. I put a blindfold on and I said, objection one, rebuttal, objection two, rebuttal.

01:10:43.820 And I said his entire book from memory and that's kind of how I got on his

01:10:47.520 radar. And, uh, you know, we, I got his cell phone number.

01:10:51.740 We text sometimes, uh, but that's how I got on his radar.

01:10:54.740 Yeah. It's amazing. Well, Ron, I appreciate your work.

01:10:57.280 I'm actually going to dig more into what you're doing because my ability to,

01:11:00.860 uh, you know, memorize people's names, memorize,

01:11:04.040 but even more important than name, maybe not more important,

01:11:06.660 but just as important is, you know, the way they're feeling about things,

01:11:10.780 what they're experiencing, what their hardships are, what they're good at, what they're not good

01:11:15.560 at. Those things are important. I wonder if, I'll leave you with this last question. I wonder if

01:11:22.320 people ever feel like, or maybe even accuse you of some sort of manipulation in conversation

01:11:31.060 and relationships. Is there a downside or a darker side that we ought to be aware of that we don't

01:11:37.100 portray as we're trying to memorize some of these things and be in tune with what people are dealing

01:11:41.440 with and going through? No, I haven't. You know, people say, you know, I haven't encountered that

01:11:52.460 at all. You know, we're just trying to, it's not, if you use Brian's scheme for every Brian,

01:12:01.680 you're trying to remember their name if you don't use that and you just say their names three times

01:12:07.840 in a conversation or repeat it or have another method or whatever or just try to do it it's not

01:12:12.740 manipulative you're just you're just making an effort right so i don't i've never encountered

01:12:17.540 that now i will say this um i have been people have investigated me for cheating before yeah i

01:12:26.040 i bet they have yeah yeah i've had tv reporters i do a thing where i write out everybody who died

01:12:32.720 in the war in afghanistan from memory on the wall i've seen it it's 7500 you did that with sean

01:12:36.980 right i did i finished it live on his show that was the first time i ever finished it um uh i did

01:12:45.920 i i it was it was an incredibly emotional thing for me i said it took me two and a half hours i

01:12:52.260 I said it, and I was exhausted after it was done,

01:12:55.420 and then we did the interview right after it.

01:12:56.980 In retrospect, I wish I hadn't done the interview right back to back.

01:13:02.840 I wasn't able to give as concise answers as I did to you today,

01:13:06.360 but it was still a tremendous experience.

01:13:11.020 But I've been writing on the wall before,

01:13:13.220 and I've had news reporters coming up and looking in my ear

01:13:16.360 and looking behind my ear.

01:13:17.760 Really?

01:13:18.460 You know?

01:13:19.740 Oh, man, that's wild.

01:13:21.520 That's good.

01:13:21.900 that's actually a compliment. That means that, uh, what you're doing defies what people can

01:13:27.080 understand, which I would take as a compliment. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it was fine. It was fine.

01:13:33.240 Uh, uh, yeah. Well, Ron, how do we connect with you, learn more about you and do you have any

01:13:38.240 programs that you might want to talk about where guys can get involved with and, um, really work

01:13:43.040 on these memory techniques? Yeah. So if you, uh, my social media, I'm on Instagram and YouTube at

01:13:50.640 brain athlete. Uh, my website is brainathlete.com. Uh, I do have a recall under pressure program

01:13:57.460 on my brain athlete. If you go to brainathlete.com, you'll see a picture of me and Sean Ryan there.

01:14:01.660 And I got my recall under pressure program that you could get. It's just, you might not be able

01:14:07.060 to bring me to speak for your company, but you might get it just for yourself. Yeah. So those

01:14:11.500 are the ways to find me. Excellent. Well, we'll sync everything up. I'm excited to get this in

01:14:15.080 front of the guys. I see the practical application of it. I mean, whether it's memorized, memorizing

01:14:20.160 your employees names or clients names memorizing people's concerns writing down information and

01:14:26.780 memorizing it from a conference you attended or public speaking giving a giving a speech

01:14:31.740 it's powerful stuff so I really appreciate you taking some time today and talking with us and

01:14:36.700 sharing some of your technique and I'm excited to dig in personally so I appreciate it Ron

01:14:40.260 yeah no I appreciate it as well thank you for having me on thanks brother

01:14:44.820 gentlemen there you go my conversation with the one and only ron white i hope you enjoyed that

01:14:50.640 one very impressive individual and what's interesting is as he said he doesn't feel

01:14:55.640 like he's special he just has a good system we talk about systems all the time and it's amazing

01:15:01.260 what a good system will do and how important it is that we learn to better utilize our brains for

01:15:06.860 for memory and recall and information recollection.

01:15:12.940 So make sure you check out his work

01:15:14.660 over at brainathlete.com.

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Order of Man - October 06, 2026

RON WHITE ｜ A Trained Brain Is a Powerful Tool

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