Order of Man - The Power of Uncomfortable Truths, Part 2

00:00:00.000 Back by popular demand is my good friend and longtime mentor, Sean Whalen.

00:00:04.400 Now I had Sean join me several months ago and the feedback that I received was so overwhelmingly

00:00:10.040 positive that I knew I wanted to have him back on the podcast.

00:00:13.580 Although you may not agree with everything we talk about today, the societal climate

00:00:17.020 that we live in demands those frankly, who are unabashedly unafraid of speaking in their

00:00:23.060 minds and giving us a glimpse into perspectives that I don't think we would consider otherwise.

00:00:27.340 Guys, this is a powerful follow-up to our first conversation several months ago about

00:00:32.380 what is going on in culture today and what a man needs to do to navigate these very, we'll

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00:00:38.920 You're a man of action.

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00:00:44.640 When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time.

00:00:48.000 Every time you are not easily deterred, defeated, rugged, resilient, strong.

00:00:54.120 This is your life.

00:00:55.240 This is who you are.

00:00:56.340 This is who you will become at the end of the day.

00:00:59.340 And after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.

00:01:03.580 Gentlemen, what is going on today?

00:01:04.940 My name is Ryan Mickler and I am the host and the founder of this podcast and the Order

00:01:09.540 of Man movement.

00:01:10.400 I've got another good one lined up for you today.

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00:02:50.740 All right, guys, let's get into it.

00:02:52.760 Uh, I told you earlier, I have the honor of introducing you yet again to my friend, Sean

00:02:57.800 Whalen.

00:02:58.520 Uh, although him and I don't always agree.

00:03:00.300 I think that's true about anybody, anybody I should say.

00:03:02.980 Uh, I genuinely admire his, his passion, his enthusiasm for life, uh, adventure, new experiences.

00:03:08.700 In fact, uh, this conversation that we had was recorded, uh, between him racing cars and

00:03:15.020 qualifying for competitive racing.

00:03:17.080 Uh, he was doing, uh, truck racing, off-road truck racing, and now he's doing track racing.

00:03:21.960 So he's, he's chasing his dreams, which I admire and respect guys.

00:03:25.460 You're going to get a lot of good information from this one.

00:03:28.980 And at the very least, you're going to be motivated and inspired to do more with your

00:03:33.460 life.

00:03:33.820 So I hope you enjoy.

00:03:36.160 Mr. Sean Whalen, glad to be joining you for round two in the last, uh, what, two weeks

00:03:39.580 or so we're taking over, son.

00:03:42.260 We're taking over.

00:03:43.160 We need to.

00:03:44.020 Holy cow.

00:03:44.520 This is a, this is an insane time, man.

00:03:46.940 It really is.

00:03:47.800 I just made a post on Instagram because I noticed you've probably noticed this even more than

00:03:52.260 I have.

00:03:53.340 Uh, my engagement has dropped like 60% over the past week or so.

00:03:58.180 Now, which is insane.

00:04:00.100 Cause I continue to see growth, but the engagement has just dropped off dramatically in the past

00:04:05.120 week.

00:04:05.440 And I've had people message me and say, Hey dude, like, I can't even see your posts.

00:04:10.920 You don't know why it's because I have really good friends and, uh, it's cause you don't

00:04:16.480 have a cockasaurus.

00:04:19.360 And my buddy just bought a 3d printer and he showed up and he, and he hands me this and

00:04:23.180 he's like, I made you something for your race car.

00:04:24.980 It's a cockasaurus dude.

00:04:26.660 How great is that?

00:04:27.480 When you get a, when you, when you get a 3d printer, like any sane and rational human

00:04:33.220 being, that is the first thing that they would make with it.

00:04:35.740 I am at the racetrack right now.

00:04:37.740 I just got done with my first practice session and I will tell you, I'll take a picture so

00:04:41.360 we can put it in the notes or whatever.

00:04:42.960 I have one of these, well, they mounted it cause they thought it was fucking hilarious

00:04:46.720 on the dash of my race car.

00:04:49.300 So when I'm going into corners, I'm looking at the cockasaurus.

00:04:51.320 That's what you're seeing, man.

00:04:52.400 It's fantastic though, man.

00:04:53.520 I think it's going to help you race faster for sure.

00:04:56.200 I, I actually hit 147 on my first practice lap, uh, which was super stoked about.

00:05:01.200 We're dialing in my car.

00:05:02.120 I just bought a new race car.

00:05:03.480 Um, you was talking about miles per hour, 147 miles per hour, 147 miles an hour.

00:05:07.580 They're, they, they're long, long story short.

00:05:09.300 You got, everybody knows that I'm doing off-road.

00:05:10.840 I do Baha'i race in off-road truck and I have a razor now.

00:05:13.540 Um, I just bought a street car, so I'm racing a GT class, uh, a TT class, excuse me.

00:05:20.160 Um, so, you know, the stuff you see on, on, uh, all over the world with like the Porsches

00:05:25.860 and the Ferraris and Lamborghinis and the Audis and stuff.

00:05:28.100 So my buddy's been racing for a long time and I just bought a car and, and, uh, this is

00:05:32.040 my second time driving it.

00:05:33.100 So testing today and then tomorrow and Sunday are my first races.

00:05:36.540 So are you in Vegas or where are you at?

00:05:38.600 No, I'm here at, uh, Larry Miller at the Miller or Utah motor sports park is what it's called

00:05:42.700 here, right?

00:05:43.640 So I got my race suit on and literally just finished my session about 20 minutes ago.

00:05:47.500 They're tuning up my car, getting a couple of things, uh, fixed on it.

00:05:51.160 And then, uh, and then we go again.

00:05:53.340 So we do a lot of this conversation with me.

00:05:56.460 I just wanted to make sure that everybody knew that's the reason.

00:05:59.400 And that's honestly why social media engagements down is, you know, there's a lot of feminism.

00:06:03.740 There's a lot of soft people.

00:06:05.180 There's a lot of men that literally aren't even this.

00:06:07.620 They're not even this big.

00:06:08.480 They're like, shit, his cockasaurus is bigger than my cockasaurus.

00:06:12.700 And I don't, I mean, I don't know what to tell you, bro.

00:06:16.240 Well, it sounds like you have an in, maybe you need to get me one of those so I can make

00:06:19.620 sure we get taken care of over here.

00:06:21.160 The social media game's changing, man.

00:06:23.120 I mean, not to get too far off topic, but, uh, it's been changing for a long time.

00:06:26.640 I mean, when I first started, uh, like when my first post went viral, I mean, there was

00:06:31.260 stuff that I could say that was just like, now would just get me banned.

00:06:34.660 I say a lot more on Instagram, even though Instagram is owned by Facebook.

00:06:37.960 Um, it's just different.

00:06:39.620 And it's a different day and age.

00:06:40.980 I mean, I, I, you can't look, I can't blame Zuckerberg, right?

00:06:44.980 I mean, he's running a multi-billion dollar company.

00:06:47.340 He's got investors.

00:06:48.180 He's got people, you know, I mean, Zuckerberg, truthfully, he's given me the platform that

00:06:51.980 I've got.

00:06:52.660 Um, I built a brilliant business around it.

00:06:55.340 Guys like you and I have connected, so I can't be too upset about it and too mad about

00:06:58.540 it.

00:06:58.680 It is frustrating that influencers don't really matter anymore there because unless you're

00:07:04.420 paying to play, like nothing really matters.

00:07:06.500 And I get that, I understand that from a capitalistic standpoint, but, uh, yeah, I've seen, but I

00:07:11.220 actually don't have a problem with paying to play.

00:07:13.320 Like I actually get that as, as a capitalist myself and somebody who believes in free markets,

00:07:18.120 I'm like, look, these guys invested billions of dollars into the platform.

00:07:22.400 So if they want to charge you, cool, I get it.

00:07:25.300 I have no problem with that.

00:07:26.400 What I have a problem with is selecting and choosing based on own personal biases.

00:07:31.740 100%.

00:07:32.080 That's the problem I have.

00:07:33.620 But you know what, man, that's truthfully, bro.

00:07:36.080 That's the day and age we live.

00:07:37.420 I mean, I wish I could say something different.

00:07:39.540 I wish I could say, oh dude, it's, you know, but it's just, it's how it is.

00:07:42.740 I mean, literally like, you know, we've been moving and you and I have talked about this

00:07:47.020 fucking so many times, like we're moving in a day and age where, you know, we're trying

00:07:52.260 to create a system that everybody feels okay, that everything is, is uniform.

00:07:57.340 And I said this yesterday, um, on one of my posts that, you know, there, oh, you might

00:08:02.780 have seen it.

00:08:03.400 There were these 14 and 15 year old kids that were fucking debating me on Instagram, telling

00:08:08.180 me, dude, you have no clue what's going on in the world.

00:08:10.420 You have to, you should be doing this and you should do that.

00:08:13.140 I'm like, motherfucker, you live in your parents fucking bait.

00:08:15.840 You've never had a job.

00:08:16.920 You don't have kids.

00:08:18.000 You don't even own a car.

00:08:18.840 You don't have a car payment, a mortgage, don't fucking even presume, presume to know

00:08:23.440 what's going on.

00:08:24.260 But that's the thing.

00:08:24.960 Like these kids and people legitimately with this Bernie Sanders reality and socialist thing,

00:08:32.220 everybody wants to feel the same, look the same, earn the same, be the same.

00:08:35.400 And I said this straight up on Instagram.

00:08:36.920 I should have done it from the dawn of creation.

00:08:39.460 Like there's always been a top of the totem pole and a bottom of the totem pole and a lot

00:08:43.020 of people in between.

00:08:43.960 And you can't regulate that.

00:08:45.820 You can't create laws around that.

00:08:48.100 I don't care how many picket signs you have.

00:08:49.980 I don't care how much you bitch and moan and yell and scream and hit report, report, report.

00:08:53.180 I don't like Sean.

00:08:53.940 I don't like Ryan.

00:08:54.660 I don't like Sean.

00:08:55.360 I don't like Ryan.

00:08:56.200 Andy still is a meanie.

00:08:57.360 He's a meanie.

00:08:57.920 You can push the buttons all you fucking want, right?

00:09:00.420 Like you're net.

00:09:01.320 You can't beat mother nature and mother nature stands behind what you and I are doing, which

00:09:05.160 is survival of the fittest, which is, you know, if you ain't hunting, you ain't eating.

00:09:09.220 And, and unfortunately our society and our culture isn't teaching that, moving in that

00:09:15.340 direction, helping kids really understand that.

00:09:18.160 And, you know, at the end of the day, oh, well, you'll just be at the bottom of the fucking

00:09:22.040 totem pole.

00:09:23.020 That's what I think.

00:09:23.520 It's unfortunate because the, these, these, I hate to say it cause you sound like an old

00:09:27.460 man or something, but you're like these kids these days, you know, but honestly, like

00:09:30.740 they're not getting what they need.

00:09:31.960 And, you know, I wish I could change that, but all I can change is my household, right?

00:09:35.680 Like I've got four kids, you've got kids.

00:09:38.000 You and I say the same thing, man, get your own house in order.

00:09:40.660 And whether a 14 or 15 year old wants to come on, I'm sorry.

00:09:43.580 I don't know if the lighting is all right here, but you know, we're good.

00:09:46.240 As long as you can hear us, we're good.

00:09:48.700 You know, I, I realized over the last couple of years, man, that this is an interesting

00:09:53.720 thing for you and I as quote unquote influencers, whatever the fuck you want to call you and

00:09:57.200 I, you know, I really truly care about human beings.

00:10:01.200 I care about people's wealth.

00:10:02.680 I care about people's growth, right?

00:10:04.820 I've been flat fucking broke.

00:10:06.640 I was raised in an abusive household with, with an emotionally abusive father.

00:10:10.380 I know what it's like to fucking struggle, struggle.

00:10:12.520 I know what it's like to the wonder, am I going to put gas in my car or am I going to,

00:10:16.400 you know, buy fucking diapers?

00:10:17.820 I know, I know what this is like.

00:10:19.360 And that's the reason I'm as passionate as I am, but I realized over the last couple of

00:10:23.100 years, man, like I, it's the old saying you can, you can lead a horse to water, but you

00:10:27.040 can't make them drink.

00:10:27.880 And, and I've, I've pulled back a lot from that position because it started stressing

00:10:32.440 me out.

00:10:32.800 Like I'd, I'd want to grab people.

00:10:34.160 I'm like, don't you fucking get it?

00:10:36.000 Right.

00:10:36.320 You can go do this.

00:10:37.640 Like, Oh, Sean, you say it's easy to make money.

00:10:40.320 Yeah.

00:10:40.720 Go do this, this, and this, and you'll make money.

00:10:43.020 Well, fuck you.

00:10:44.060 You think it's easy.

00:10:44.740 And I'm like, you don't understand.

00:10:45.780 I just literally handed you the same blueprint that I fucking followed.

00:10:50.420 Right.

00:10:50.860 I started with, and, and I, I used to get so worked up, bro.

00:10:55.120 And it really started to consume me.

00:10:57.220 And it's discouraging.

00:10:58.080 And I know, you know, this, cause like sometimes I sit in a script, scroll through Facebook or

00:11:03.060 Instagram and I'm like, what the fuck is going on?

00:11:05.760 I watch the news.

00:11:06.640 I read people's posts and I'm like, what planet are you fucking living on?

00:11:11.300 Right.

00:11:11.520 And I just, I don't want to sound coarse or whatever, but I realized the only thing I

00:11:15.860 got control over is me and my house.

00:11:18.300 And at the end of the day, I can't make anybody do anything.

00:11:21.300 So I'm going to build the biggest fucking house possible that can help as many people

00:11:24.120 possible.

00:11:25.160 And if people want to participate and join me along the way, guys like you and I give the

00:11:29.820 shirt off our backs to people without even thinking about it.

00:11:32.700 But no doubt.

00:11:33.540 I think that's really misunderstood.

00:11:35.100 Make me lose sleep anymore.

00:11:36.220 You know?

00:11:36.660 Yeah.

00:11:37.180 Yeah.

00:11:37.400 I think that's really misunderstood about you and some of these other guys is like, you

00:11:40.600 know, you come across as, I mean, frankly, you come across as harsh and like you said,

00:11:44.160 course.

00:11:44.780 But if you just stop and like decide, and I know you've read the four agreements and you're

00:11:49.040 a big fan of Don Miguel Ruiz.

00:11:50.560 If you just stop for a second and think, you know, I don't have to be offended by what Sean

00:11:55.560 is saying or what anybody else is saying.

00:11:57.740 Maybe like I ought to just listen for a second and ask myself if it applies to me.

00:12:02.500 And if it doesn't, cool, drive on.

00:12:04.140 If it does objectively apply to you, forget about delivery or how you feel about it or if

00:12:10.580 it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy.

00:12:13.560 Jordan Peterson says this, you say this, truth is truth, man.

00:12:16.160 Like, and this is something that I would love for people to continue to hear and understand

00:12:21.020 is, you know, I played sports ever since I was a little kid and you always had kind

00:12:26.160 of the nice coach and then you had the mean coach.

00:12:28.540 Right.

00:12:29.200 And if I think back to like my trainers, for example, right, I'm in the best shape at 41

00:12:34.720 years old I've ever been in ever.

00:12:36.500 I mean, I got a six pack.

00:12:37.700 I don't have, I have no shame in talking and celebrating what I built.

00:12:41.680 My trainer's a dick.

00:12:43.540 I don't pay him to be my friend.

00:12:45.020 I don't pay him to be nice.

00:12:46.080 I pay him to get me muscles.

00:12:47.780 Right.

00:12:48.200 Like, so when I go to the gym and I'm like, dude, I'm sore.

00:12:51.000 I don't want, oh yeah.

00:12:52.360 Okay.

00:12:52.620 We'll take today off.

00:12:53.380 And we'll be like, no fucker pick up the weight.

00:12:55.180 Like, that's the thing that I think people need to understand is my, my delivery, my,

00:13:00.220 my people think that, and you know me well enough.

00:13:02.580 You've been around me to know that I'm as big of a dick in person as I am online.

00:13:06.220 I'm the same dude.

00:13:06.780 Right.

00:13:07.360 But like, I realized that me coddling and telling you it's okay to be fat and, and telling

00:13:14.960 you your stories matter and telling you all of these things doesn't help you at some

00:13:19.440 point in time.

00:13:19.980 Man, we get so far down the rabbit hole because I was this guy, anybody who knows my story

00:13:24.740 knows that I was a fucking compulsive liar.

00:13:27.420 I lied about how I felt.

00:13:28.720 I lied about where I was in life.

00:13:31.060 I lied about everything.

00:13:32.320 Not, not in a destructive way.

00:13:34.240 It was because I was terrified to speak my truth.

00:13:36.520 I was terrified to tell people I was scared.

00:13:38.580 I was terrified to like acknowledge that I was a lazy piece of shit and didn't want to

00:13:43.420 work out as hard as the dude who had the six pack.

00:13:45.340 And so instead I just mock him and say he was a dick and say he was on steroids and a liar,

00:13:48.980 but like really stop and think about this for a second.

00:13:51.240 Some of the greatest lessons that I, I've experienced in life came when I got punched

00:13:54.860 the hardest.

00:13:55.720 And I think that's what people need to start understanding is look, it might hurt and it

00:13:59.120 might sting, but fat is fat, bro.

00:14:01.820 Broke is broke.

00:14:02.520 If you can't afford to pay your fucking bills, you're broke and saying, oh, well, you know,

00:14:07.560 your dad issues or your mom issues or your job.

00:14:09.760 Fuck all that.

00:14:10.400 That's not going to help you making you money.

00:14:12.580 So listen to what I'm saying.

00:14:14.240 It stings a little bit.

00:14:15.240 It hurts.

00:14:15.620 I get it, but which would you rather have this momentary sting with then now the blueprint

00:14:22.780 and the drive and the motivation and the support to go build something?

00:14:27.220 So you're not fucking broke.

00:14:28.400 Or would you rather just surround yourself with a bunch of broke ass people that are like,

00:14:31.540 oh, it's okay.

00:14:32.260 It's okay.

00:14:32.940 It's okay.

00:14:33.680 And I'm never going to change that, man, because what changed my life the most when I

00:14:37.200 was lying is getting punched in the face with fucking truth.

00:14:39.720 I hated it.

00:14:40.520 I wanted to fucking yell.

00:14:41.980 I wanted to deny it.

00:14:43.260 I wanted to blame everybody.

00:14:44.340 I wanted to say you're a dick, but it was true.

00:14:46.900 You know, you asked that question about like, what would you rather have?

00:14:49.800 And like you and I hear that.

00:14:52.040 I'm like, well, yeah, I'd rather be in a little bit of pain, but have the progress.

00:14:54.720 And I think most people probably listen to the podcast, feel the same way.

00:14:57.580 Otherwise they wouldn't be listening to it.

00:14:59.060 Right.

00:14:59.360 They'd, they'd be doing whatever they're doing in their mom's basement.

00:15:02.700 But I do think there's like, many probably are.

00:15:05.340 Yeah, for sure.

00:15:06.300 Yeah.

00:15:06.860 That's probably true.

00:15:08.020 And that, and, and here's the interesting thing is they think they're moving the needle because

00:15:10.940 they're listening to me and you, right?

00:15:12.340 That's one of the problems, like the traps of like the self-help space is, oh, I'm listening

00:15:16.820 to Sean.

00:15:17.280 I'm listening to Ryan.

00:15:17.960 I'm listening to Rogan.

00:15:18.640 I'm listening to Peterson.

00:15:19.720 I'm listening to all these guys.

00:15:20.600 So like, I'm moving the needle.

00:15:22.080 No, dude, you're priming the pump.

00:15:24.260 Like at some point you've got to get out there and like put mental masturbation.

00:15:28.080 Sean, how do I, how do I share my story?

00:15:31.020 Share it.

00:15:32.200 Turn on your fucking phone the same way I did.

00:15:34.400 Sean, how do I, dude, I'm sick of being fat.

00:15:37.380 Awesome.

00:15:38.660 Go right now and pick up something fucking heavy and carry it a mile.

00:15:44.060 Right.

00:15:44.620 Wake up in the morning and go to the gym and pick up heavy things and put them down.

00:15:49.300 Oh, I'm tired of being broke.

00:15:50.420 I'm sick of being broke.

00:15:51.480 Awesome.

00:15:52.040 Go do this.

00:15:54.020 Like, look, I'm not, I love Gary, but Gary just, dude, he puts out so much content.

00:16:00.560 I just can't fucking consume it all.

00:16:01.760 It's like drives me insane some days, but he said something really true yesterday.

00:16:04.540 He's like, dude, you don't need any more books, man.

00:16:07.000 You don't need to know any more about making money.

00:16:09.580 You already know.

00:16:10.500 Everybody already knows how to get in shape like this.

00:16:13.780 I hate to discredit.

00:16:15.340 I don't want to discredit, but like there's a science to certain things, but let me tell you

00:16:18.720 literally in like 10 seconds or less how to get in really good fucking shape, eat healthy

00:16:23.740 foods and sweat.

00:16:26.920 You know, it's funny, dude, as I watch, cause I know like you've been on 75 hard and, and

00:16:30.980 the way that you've built your body to the, where it is right now.

00:16:33.880 It's funny.

00:16:34.260 Cause I always see the posts are like, Oh, what's your workout?

00:16:37.000 And you're just like, you just work out.

00:16:39.040 And people say the same thing every time, right?

00:16:41.100 Dude, what do I say every time?

00:16:42.660 Legitimately, it's just work out, move your body, healthy food, put greens and meats into

00:16:47.980 your body, stop eating all the breads, stop eating all the sugars.

00:16:51.200 This is, this ain't Sean Whalen.

00:16:53.400 This ain't fucking science.

00:16:54.800 This is just human fucking, this is common sense and literally go sweat.

00:16:59.640 You know, it's, it's, it's ironic to me.

00:17:01.200 And again, this is going to hurt people's feelings and I don't give a shit.

00:17:03.840 I go to the gym and you see the same people on the elliptical, just do to do to do.

00:17:09.280 I'm just here because I want to be here.

00:17:11.060 And then there are the ones at home going, I'm tired of being fat, but they're watching shit

00:17:16.900 and they're on things and they're this and that, and they're just cruising along and

00:17:20.160 they're elliptical.

00:17:21.040 And look, if you've got a busted up knee and you're rehabbing, cool, but not all of you

00:17:26.280 are.

00:17:27.080 Right.

00:17:27.240 I've seen you at the gym for six months, friend.

00:17:29.680 You look the same.

00:17:31.020 You're on the same fucking elliptical.

00:17:33.580 You know what I mean?

00:17:34.680 But I think that's the differentiating factor too, man, of, of greatness.

00:17:37.200 I'm a huge, um, uh, Tim Grover fan.

00:17:40.940 He wrote, uh, yeah, relentless, you know, he was Michael Jordan's coach and Kobe Bryant's

00:17:45.380 coach.

00:17:46.100 Um, and, uh, you know, there's a, there's just a mental difference between people.

00:17:50.740 I'm different than people straight up.

00:17:52.760 I'm different than people.

00:17:53.540 I want shit differently.

00:17:54.740 I do things differently.

00:17:56.260 And, and I will tell you that when it comes to working out, I've worked out with a lot

00:17:59.980 of men and I work out harder than most men.

00:18:02.780 And that's the reason I look the way I look and they don't know bones about it.

00:18:08.240 I don't give a shit about your injuries, your things, whatever.

00:18:11.000 I got them all like, we're at this dividing factor where it's like, unless you're willing

00:18:14.840 to do shit that other people aren't, you're not going to change.

00:18:19.040 You're not going to get different results.

00:18:21.360 Period.

00:18:21.580 One of the things you can read and hope and pray for money.

00:18:24.140 I'm going to, I'm going to manifest millions of dollars.

00:18:27.220 No motherfucker.

00:18:27.760 You want to be rich.

00:18:29.000 You better do shit differently.

00:18:31.360 Right.

00:18:31.920 You know, one of the things I've thought about is like, sometimes I'll hear something that

00:18:36.040 you post.

00:18:36.500 I'm like, what the hell is Sean talking about?

00:18:37.860 Like, I don't agree with that or whatever, but, but one thing I always admired about

00:18:42.700 you and respect is your level of intensity.

00:18:46.340 You know, like, I'm like, man, he's so wrong on that.

00:18:49.120 Like, I adamantly disagree with that.

00:18:51.460 I'm never wrong, bro.

00:18:52.120 But then I'm like, but you know what?

00:18:54.140 He's all in.

00:18:55.020 What's up, cuz?

00:18:55.780 Like, he's all in on that thing.

00:18:57.260 And I appreciate that.

00:18:59.080 Well, here's the thing, man.

00:19:00.140 Like when I'm racing, Jason, who's here, my buddy here, here, come over here.

00:19:03.440 Come around here.

00:19:04.100 We're going to bring Jason in for two seconds.

00:19:05.800 Bring him in.

00:19:06.260 He is Jason Howard, dude, is independently wealthy.

00:19:10.680 He's the guy who got me into racing.

00:19:12.820 This is my dear friend, Jason.

00:19:14.280 What's up, brother?

00:19:14.700 How are you, man?

00:19:15.940 He can't hear.

00:19:16.800 Can I plug this for you?

00:19:17.080 Oh, he can't.

00:19:17.540 You got your earbuds on.

00:19:18.420 That's right.

00:19:19.140 We got now?

00:19:19.880 We good?

00:19:20.620 Yeah.

00:19:21.040 What's up, Jason?

00:19:21.920 Can you hear me?

00:19:23.480 I got you.

00:19:25.780 Hello, hello, hello.

00:19:27.480 Tell everybody why it is that you chose to take your race car that's on the road into the

00:19:33.860 dirt today.

00:19:35.300 Oh, you know, there's this brake.

00:19:36.260 Markers, and I decided not to pay attention to them.

00:19:38.900 Were you trying to be an overachiever?

00:19:40.980 Oh, man.

00:19:41.640 I overachieved the shit out of that dirt.

00:19:43.780 Hey, so Jason is one of my dearest friends.

00:19:46.460 He's wildly successful.

00:19:48.060 He started selling stickers.

00:19:49.980 Tell everybody really quick.

00:19:50.740 You know Ryan Mickley, don't you?

00:19:52.580 Ryan Ryan's a good dude.

00:19:53.620 He does now.

00:19:55.000 You do now.

00:19:55.940 You started selling stickers.

00:19:57.540 You were flat-ass broke.

00:19:59.120 You came from nothing.

00:20:00.420 You started selling, like, 10-cent stickers for a dollar, and then dollar stickers for

00:20:04.800 three, and now you're making millions and millions and millions of dollars.

00:20:07.460 You did a million dollars of sales in a day.

00:20:09.460 What would you say?

00:20:10.420 We're having a conversation about masculinity and men and owning your shit, getting in shape.

00:20:14.820 Like, drop a nugget for us.

00:20:15.980 Fuck, man.

00:20:19.460 It's all on the spot.

00:20:20.340 I don't know.

00:20:20.700 Just do the fucking what you want to do.

00:20:21.880 That's what I'd say.

00:20:22.760 Do what you want to do, but don't fucking lie about it.

00:20:25.520 If you're going to do it, do it.

00:20:26.500 If you're not, don't.

00:20:27.920 Yeah.

00:20:28.700 That's my MO.

00:20:30.240 How much more intense are you with work than people that are broke?

00:20:34.100 A thousand times.

00:20:34.980 A thousand times, right?

00:20:36.040 Why?

00:20:36.280 Because you want it more, right?

00:20:37.080 I want it.

00:20:37.540 Because you want these big-ass trailers and fast race cars.

00:20:40.180 What would you say to people that are, like, the differentiating factor between you being

00:20:44.340 in this race course and people being at a nine-to-five?

00:20:46.680 What's the difference?

00:20:47.480 Is it your looks?

00:20:48.580 Is it your type?

00:20:49.820 Clear on what I want, and then I go do it.

00:20:52.420 That's it.

00:20:53.480 I dig it.

00:20:54.140 I dig it.

00:20:54.860 Here's the gentleman.

00:20:56.040 Oh, yeah.

00:20:56.540 All right.

00:20:56.840 I'll be done in a bit.

00:20:57.940 See you, brother.

00:20:59.620 He's, look, if you can wrangle him in, he's not a.

00:21:04.820 He's a man of little words.

00:21:06.300 Can you still hear me?

00:21:07.300 Yeah, I got you.

00:21:07.840 One of my dearest friends, like, I don't have very many mentors.

00:21:12.780 Consider him a mentor because he's very, very successful.

00:21:15.120 He's the guy that got me into racing.

00:21:16.640 I'm here, you know, street racing.

00:21:18.120 He's got multiple Lamborghinis and the whole thing.

00:21:20.800 But the dude came from nothing, man.

00:21:22.220 He literally was selling 10-cent stickers for a dollar and then built it up and built it

00:21:26.240 up.

00:21:26.400 And he did a million dollars of sales in one day.

00:21:29.360 He just set a goal for himself.

00:21:30.940 I think I saw that.

00:21:31.720 Was that a couple of years ago on Facebook or something?

00:21:34.160 Yeah, it was last year.

00:21:34.420 Yeah, it was last year.

00:21:35.120 It was right before Christmas.

00:21:36.520 And I live streamed it and I was helping him in the whole thing.

00:21:38.960 Yeah, I remember that.

00:21:39.440 Because the thing is, is he's like, I've never done it before and it scares the shit

00:21:43.160 out of me.

00:21:43.960 And so he spent two months ramping up to this.

00:21:46.060 And ClickFunnels changed a bunch of their crap right before.

00:21:49.160 Things were just against him and against him and against him.

00:21:51.400 And I've never met a dude who solves problems better than him.

00:21:55.060 Like, you can throw anything at him and he'll figure it out.

00:21:57.840 He'll solve a problem.

00:21:58.420 That's what he does.

00:21:59.160 And going along this conversation, if you're broke, you have to be willing to do shit that

00:22:04.780 no one else wants to do.

00:22:06.120 You have to be willing to go down the rabbit hole that's scary, that's dark, that's alone,

00:22:10.500 that not very many people in.

00:22:11.540 You have to be willing to put in the time and the energy and the effort.

00:22:14.060 You have to be willing to go to the gym and fucking throw up.

00:22:16.800 I threw up the other day.

00:22:17.680 I was doing legs, straight up.

00:22:19.240 Leg day.

00:22:19.820 I puked my guts out.

00:22:20.860 And I'm not ashamed of it.

00:22:22.180 I'm not ashamed of it because I'm in better shape than everybody else around me, right?

00:22:25.280 And I say that just because you have to be willing, and you know this, you have to be

00:22:29.860 willing to go above and beyond if you want to lead an exceptional life.

00:22:34.200 Because it's not easy making money.

00:22:36.320 It's not easy being an entrepreneur.

00:22:37.700 You know this.

00:22:38.860 It's really fucking simple to make 70 grand a year and have somebody give you a paycheck

00:22:42.320 every two weeks.

00:22:42.980 That's easy.

00:22:43.760 It's easy to have a dad bod.

00:22:45.180 It's easy to be halfway in, halfway out.

00:22:47.300 It's really fucking hard to be exceptional.

00:22:49.660 It's really hard when it's the first thing he said.

00:22:52.100 Live your life.

00:22:52.800 Figure out what you want to fucking do and then go do it.

00:22:54.960 It might be making cockasauruses.

00:22:57.800 It might be fucking doing something different.

00:23:00.280 I don't care what it is, but like so many people are so afraid to do anything and they

00:23:05.820 live on a fence.

00:23:06.580 They sit on a fence day after day after day after day after day.

00:23:09.680 And then you just get stuck there.

00:23:11.540 Yeah.

00:23:12.020 You know what's funny is every once in a while I get messages from people.

00:23:15.440 It's like, hey, how'd you start Order of Man?

00:23:16.840 I'm like, well, I had my financial planning practice and I would wake up two hours in the

00:23:20.240 morning before anybody else got up and I would type away and do blogs and interviews

00:23:23.820 and whatever else and I got rejected all the time.

00:23:25.800 And then I would go into my like day job for 10 hours and then I would come home, eat dinner

00:23:30.420 with my wife, play with the kids for a little bit, put the kids to bed and then say, hon,

00:23:33.860 I'm signing out and go back into the office and work for two or three more hours on Order of

00:23:38.260 Man.

00:23:38.440 And I did that for, I did that for a year and a half to two years every day before I

00:23:46.100 was like, oh, maybe I can actually make some money doing this.

00:23:49.660 Yeah.

00:23:50.340 Yeah.

00:23:50.720 And I mean, that's the difference is so many people are like, oh, I'm tired.

00:23:54.460 I'm just going to watch Game of Thrones and I'm tired and I'm the same way, man.

00:23:58.340 You know, that's the reason 75 hard was so big for me and why it changed my life in such

00:24:01.720 a dramatic way is like, you know, those workouts where it's 11 o'clock at night, 12 o'clock

00:24:05.960 at night and I'm exhausted.

00:24:07.080 I don't want to go out, walk for 45 minutes.

00:24:08.860 I don't want to go do an hour to work out.

00:24:10.200 Nobody wants to do it.

00:24:10.480 And it was in those moments.

00:24:11.740 That's what helped build the six pack is those moments.

00:24:14.860 I will tell you straight up, that is what has helped me put a healthiest sum of money

00:24:18.680 in my bank account and allow me to buy race cars and live the life that I want to live

00:24:22.160 is in those moments when all of the stories were coming to me like, dude, you're tired.

00:24:27.480 You need rest.

00:24:28.420 I mean, I've read books about rest.

00:24:30.100 Sean, you need rest, rest, rest, rest, rest, rest, rest, rest, rest, rest, knowing that I

00:24:34.000 had to go do it.

00:24:34.760 Right.

00:24:35.220 Right.

00:24:35.420 And, and, and, and, you know, your body is sore.

00:24:37.520 You need to rehab your body.

00:24:38.820 You got to take care of your body.

00:24:39.740 I have an excuse for everything straight up.

00:24:42.140 I have an excuse for everything.

00:24:44.220 Just like everybody here listening.

00:24:45.880 The difference is, is like, I want the results more than I want to share the excuse.

00:24:51.400 Yeah.

00:24:52.200 Hey, let's, um, let's shift gears.

00:24:54.240 Cause again, we talked twice in the last two weeks.

00:24:57.060 I want to talk about Corona virus, your favorite, your favorite topic, man.

00:25:01.680 You know, what's interesting is we were talking about this and I don't know, six weeks, eight

00:25:06.680 weeks ago or so, or whatever, you're, you're sounding the alarms, right?

00:25:09.660 You're sounding the bells.

00:25:10.400 Like, Hey, here's what's really going on.

00:25:12.120 And everybody's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:25:14.160 I say not, it's not what it is.

00:25:15.480 And here we are six, eight weeks later.

00:25:17.920 And it's like, Oh wait, Oh wait, I was right.

00:25:20.960 I'll pat myself on the back.

00:25:22.540 Maybe Sean knows what he's talking about.

00:25:25.180 Right.

00:25:26.400 So talk to me about where we're at, what your thought process is with this whole COVID-19

00:25:30.660 fallout, et cetera, et cetera.

00:25:33.100 Um, I don't really know yet, man, to be really candid, to be really honest.

00:25:38.820 Like I could, I could, I could stroke you some sort of fucking cool answer, but like,

00:25:42.740 I will tell you this, that it's terrifying what I'm seeing.

00:25:45.980 It's terrifying watching Americans fight Americans.

00:25:50.120 It's terrifying knowing that during world war two, the Germans were encouraged.

00:25:56.760 The German people were encouraged to turn in the Jews and they were rewarded for turning

00:26:01.060 in the Jews, which they ultimately were.

00:26:03.240 And they ended up being killed.

00:26:05.380 Right.

00:26:05.960 Oh, Sean, that's extreme.

00:26:07.760 Sean, that's extreme.

00:26:09.540 Motherfucker.

00:26:10.080 It's happening now in this country.

00:26:13.100 There are hotlines set up that you call on your neighbors and say they're outside and

00:26:19.160 the cops come.

00:26:21.120 What the fuck, man.

00:26:24.620 But even bigger than that, dude, even bigger than that, like we're people, this is the thing

00:26:29.940 that's truly scary to me and where we're going.

00:26:32.020 I don't fucking know.

00:26:32.680 I haven't had my theories.

00:26:33.740 I'll share those in a second, but like the numbers are there.

00:26:36.380 The proof is literally right there.

00:26:38.640 Doctor after doctor thing after thing has been proven to be wrong.

00:26:43.920 Just wrong.

00:26:45.320 Flat out wrong.

00:26:46.980 Every projection.

00:26:48.200 But Sean, the disease is real.

00:26:51.060 So is fucking cancer.

00:26:52.880 So is AIDS.

00:26:54.140 So is herpes and gonorrhea.

00:26:55.560 We're literally watching like the dismantling of the freedom and people are buying into

00:27:06.080 it, bro.

00:27:06.840 Like legitimately, like none of the statistics make sense.

00:27:10.480 None of the numbers make sense.

00:27:12.440 The governor of New York City, the mayor, excuse me, the mayor of New York City has been shown

00:27:17.060 to be lying.

00:27:18.880 It's proven.

00:27:20.000 It ain't Sean Whalen.

00:27:21.260 It ain't Republican, Democrat, black, white, rich, poor.

00:27:23.860 The motherfuckers caught lying.

00:27:26.920 And yet people still stay in their house.

00:27:29.720 Like literally, we allow people to congregate in Walmart and all these big box businesses.

00:27:35.600 But if you take your kids to a fucking park and you're not near anyone, you'll get arrested.

00:27:40.500 Right.

00:27:41.220 Right.

00:27:41.440 Go swim on the beach in California.

00:27:43.580 Now, my question, and I don't think you probably have very many people that disagree with you

00:27:47.980 and I on this, listening to this podcast, but let's just hypothetically say you do.

00:27:51.300 How the fuck do you rationalize, justify, or excuse that?

00:27:56.120 Period.

00:27:56.900 Oh, and I swear to God, if your argument is, well, I want to do what's in the best interest

00:28:02.840 of everybody else.

00:28:04.180 Fuck you.

00:28:04.920 You're a fucking liar.

00:28:06.500 You're a liar.

00:28:07.720 And I have seen people, person after person, these little kids were arguing with me.

00:28:11.320 Dude, what's the big deal?

00:28:12.280 Just wear a mask.

00:28:13.680 What's next?

00:28:14.760 What's the big deal?

00:28:15.600 Just give me all of your money.

00:28:16.980 What's the big deal?

00:28:17.980 You have three cars, Sean.

00:28:19.500 Just give me one of your cars.

00:28:21.060 Sean, you have 25 guns.

00:28:22.940 Just give me five or six or seven of them.

00:28:25.360 Fuck you.

00:28:27.160 Like, we need to go read the Declaration of Independence and understand that that document

00:28:34.720 was a declaration of independence from a foreign entity, a government that wanted to persecute,

00:28:45.680 rule, regulate people.

00:28:47.980 It is a declaration of independence.

00:28:50.320 For those of you that aren't very smart, fucking look these words up.

00:28:53.360 Declaration.

00:28:53.940 I'm declaring my independence from you.

00:28:58.360 Which means you got nothing to say over me, pal.

00:29:01.400 I don't care how big your badge is.

00:29:03.820 I don't care how big your guns are.

00:29:05.620 You got guns.

00:29:06.320 I got guns.

00:29:06.940 What are we doing?

00:29:07.900 It's a really scary thing, bro, because people legitimately have been feared into giving up

00:29:11.940 all of their rights.

00:29:13.380 Yes.

00:29:13.580 And we now have a system and a culture where we're supporting.

00:29:17.400 People are literally supporting arresting people for going to beaches, for doing shit,

00:29:21.900 yet they will go stand in line with a bunch of other stupid assholes at Walmart, and somehow

00:29:27.020 they're excusing that.

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00:30:31.380 All right, guys, let's get back to it with Sean.

00:30:34.520 Somehow they're excusing that.

00:30:36.300 And that's what's scary, bro.

00:30:37.560 Fuck the virus.

00:30:38.300 The virus.

00:30:38.740 I said it March 6th.

00:30:40.620 Don't read my Facebook post.

00:30:41.900 It's a scam.

00:30:43.220 Coronavirus has been around for 30 years.

00:30:45.060 It's been on the side of Lysol bottles.

00:30:46.560 Coronavirus is the fucking flu.

00:30:47.540 But Sean, it's a new strain.

00:30:49.360 Fuck you.

00:30:50.360 You don't know what you're talking about.

00:30:53.480 Anyways, dude, I don't know where we're going to go.

00:30:56.440 I do know, though, that unless we, the people, create a change, and as the old saying goes,

00:31:03.580 it's either going to be by ballot or bullet.

00:31:05.620 This is just going to get worse.

00:31:07.300 The next flu season.

00:31:08.200 Oh, it's back.

00:31:08.760 It's back.

00:31:09.220 It's back.

00:31:09.700 Everybody run.

00:31:10.740 And then it'll get worse.

00:31:11.820 Shutting it down.

00:31:12.400 Right.

00:31:12.700 And that's the problem is when you fear monger, what happens?

00:31:17.660 You literally will get anybody to do anything you want.

00:31:20.020 And what you're seeing is people that are so broke and so miserable and so unable to make

00:31:24.320 their own decisions and so completely inept that they're literally doing what the most

00:31:28.240 corrupt human beings on the planet, our elected officials, are telling them to do.

00:31:32.780 You know, what's funny is you're talking about the Declaration of Independence.

00:31:36.840 It reminds me of, and I've seen this meme floating around in the office, Michael Scott.

00:31:41.180 He's like, I declare a bankruptcy.

00:31:43.500 And he thinks that's all you need to do to like declare.

00:31:46.340 No, it actually needs to be backed up with action.

00:31:50.540 Bro, did you see, you want to see, you want to know something crazy?

00:31:53.320 This pissed me off so bad.

00:31:55.220 The dude's in Texas, right?

00:31:56.920 Look, I'm a gun guy.

00:31:57.780 You're a gun guy.

00:31:58.340 I'm a second amendment guy.

00:31:59.180 I don't carry firearms just for show.

00:32:04.280 I pray to God.

00:32:05.460 I feel my heart goes out to my buddy, BJ Baldwin, because nobody ever wants to be in a situation

00:32:09.700 like he was just in where he had to take someone's life to defend and protect he and his girlfriend.

00:32:14.800 I pray to God.

00:32:15.400 I never, ever, ever, ever have to have that situation.

00:32:17.560 But make no mistake, dude, if it's between me and you, and I watched these guys in Texas

00:32:24.520 who were like, oh, I'm all about it.

00:32:26.200 Let's open it up.

00:32:27.000 And they went and they stood in front of the business.

00:32:29.260 And the second the police came, they were like, oh, no, oh, no.

00:32:32.540 Why'd you even show up, bro?

00:32:34.140 If you don't have the conviction to support that shit, stay the fuck home.

00:32:39.380 Get rid of your guns.

00:32:40.780 That pissed me off more than anything.

00:32:42.220 Like, you know what I'm saying?

00:32:43.260 I just, we live in a day and age where we forget that this country, the liberty that

00:32:48.920 you and I have right now to be even able to talk about this shit, was literally created

00:32:53.120 by a bunch of people who created, who literally, they were treasonous.

00:32:58.400 They were treasonous.

00:32:59.600 The people that signed the Declaration of Independence and the Declaration and the Constitution

00:33:04.400 and stuff, they're literally signing their death warrant.

00:33:06.400 This isn't made up.

00:33:07.220 This isn't some hokey pokey.

00:33:08.400 Oh, that just sounds really patriotic.

00:33:09.780 Vote for me.

00:33:10.240 That's real.

00:33:11.180 That's real.

00:33:12.000 That's fucking real.

00:33:13.400 And the problem is, is we have this war going on between, you know, how far will the government

00:33:19.200 truly push before something snaps or somebody gets shot?

00:33:23.500 I don't want to see that.

00:33:24.600 I pray to God, no police officer ever gets shot.

00:33:27.100 I'm a huge supporter of the first responders, then blue line, the entire fucking deal.

00:33:31.140 But make no mistake, if I don't care your badge, I don't care your fucking title.

00:33:35.840 You ain't taking my guns.

00:33:37.220 You ain't taking my freedom.

00:33:38.220 You come at me while I'm playing with my kids on this sovereign fucking land.

00:33:42.580 Somebody's getting shot.

00:33:43.600 And I promise you, it ain't going to be me.

00:33:45.240 And that's not a fucking threat.

00:33:46.760 I'm not saying this to be hardcore on Ryan Mickler's podcast.

00:33:49.380 You know me well enough, bro.

00:33:50.600 I don't fucking flex like that.

00:33:52.460 I'll get in the ring.

00:33:53.340 I've been in the ring.

00:33:54.100 Show up.

00:33:55.160 But this is the true reality happening in this country is how far are people willing to

00:34:01.920 go before they draw a real line and they stand on the side of freedom?

00:34:05.280 That might mean people fucking dying.

00:34:09.140 That might mean the tree of liberty being watered with fucking blood.

00:34:12.320 No one wants to say that.

00:34:13.560 It's scary.

00:34:14.340 It's crazy.

00:34:15.040 What are you going to do, Sean?

00:34:15.940 Shoot a cop?

00:34:16.760 What are you going to do?

00:34:17.200 If you try and infringe on my freedoms, my liberty, I carry these weapons to ensure that.

00:34:28.480 And we have a responsibility.

00:34:30.240 We have the right and responsibility to ensure that that's the case.

00:34:33.280 And I feel like-

00:34:34.080 What does it say?

00:34:34.700 We don't start lining things out.

00:34:36.340 You just quoted it.

00:34:37.800 It's not only our right in the Declaration of Independence, but it is our duty, duty to

00:34:46.620 replace the government.

00:34:49.380 Read it.

00:34:50.260 Read it, people.

00:34:51.680 It says it right in the Declaration of Independence.

00:34:53.580 Because if the government becomes so corrupt and so bad, it's not only our right, it's

00:34:59.880 our duty to replace it.

00:35:03.160 And you get a bunch of fucking ass clowns that show up with their fucking guns going,

00:35:06.960 no, no, no.

00:35:07.500 Don't shoot me.

00:35:08.180 Don't shoot me.

00:35:08.980 You ain't committed, bro.

00:35:10.040 Like you said, it was a flex, right?

00:35:11.620 It was a bluff is what it was.

00:35:13.320 And it wasn't a real thing.

00:35:14.920 Exactly.

00:35:15.580 Exactly.

00:35:16.220 They got called.

00:35:16.420 My concern is that we're to that point where, you know, it's going to go that route.

00:35:22.440 And I hope we can do it diplomatically.

00:35:24.000 And I hope we can do it in a situation, in an environment where we just all show up and

00:35:28.480 we vote these jokers out because if that doesn't happen, then things are going to go.

00:35:33.280 No, that's exactly.

00:35:34.480 It won't happen.

00:35:35.080 Here's why I disagree with you.

00:35:37.280 I want to believe that.

00:35:39.260 Trust me, dude.

00:35:39.780 I want to believe that.

00:35:41.520 I want to believe that.

00:35:42.720 But here's why it won't happen.

00:35:43.880 You want to know why 17 million people took to the streets in Venezuela and why they

00:35:48.100 overthrew the government, why they went down that path?

00:35:50.620 Because they didn't have water.

00:35:52.460 Because the government turned out the water.

00:35:54.480 The problem in America and the reason that what you and I know and believe, the reason

00:35:59.800 that that won't happen is simply because we're too comfortable.

00:36:03.640 Right.

00:36:04.020 We have food.

00:36:04.680 We have water.

00:36:05.340 We have shelter.

00:36:06.320 And until one of those things goes missing, people are just going to keep doing the same

00:36:10.100 dumb shit that they've been doing.

00:36:11.100 They're just going to keep being sheep.

00:36:12.220 They're going to be led right off the cliff.

00:36:14.880 Yeah.

00:36:15.360 I mean, maybe that's part of the strategy, right?

00:36:17.020 Is if we can just keep you just enough where you feel happy and satisfied and content to

00:36:20.800 the point where you won't rise up and you won't rebel, then we're okay.

00:36:24.440 But, and I think that's it.

00:36:24.940 Here's $1,200.

00:36:26.020 Here's $1,200.

00:36:27.280 Here's $1,200.

00:36:28.280 Here's $1,200.

00:36:30.880 Yeah.

00:36:31.300 It's a good point.

00:36:32.140 It's a good point.

00:36:32.940 It's a crazy reality, man.

00:36:35.180 Yeah.

00:36:35.560 It's really unfortunate we're in this situation.

00:36:37.420 I think it takes us, you guys like you and me and everybody else who might be listening

00:36:40.460 to this podcast to really step up and to have some weight behind their words and their

00:36:43.560 actions and the things that they do.

00:36:45.500 Yeah.

00:36:45.720 I think we're at that point.

00:36:47.260 You can't be, guys like you and I, though, I know where you'd stand and you know where

00:36:50.640 I'd stand.

00:36:51.480 The problem is, is people like this, this is the issue.

00:36:53.740 This is, it goes back to what I was just talking about.

00:36:55.220 Americans fighting Americans.

00:36:56.560 As I say stuff like this and everybody, then there's other patriots.

00:36:59.420 Man, what are you going to do?

00:37:00.400 Shoot a cop, Sean?

00:37:01.240 What are you going to do?

00:37:01.920 What are you going to do?

00:37:02.400 You act all fucking tough.

00:37:03.700 I don't go out looking for a fight, bro.

00:37:05.680 I don't want a fucking fight.

00:37:06.780 I've had five professional MMA fights.

00:37:09.160 I'm not looking for a fight.

00:37:11.120 I'm staying a free man because that's what I was not only blessed with through my divine

00:37:16.460 creator, but through these documents that this country is found on.

00:37:20.120 I ensure my safety in myself, which is why I carry weapons.

00:37:24.040 You know what I'm saying?

00:37:24.640 And I can tell you that like, I'm not looking for a fucking fight.

00:37:28.080 I'm not going to go storm the white house.

00:37:30.300 I'm not going to go rage on fucking police and shit like that, but I will stand my ground

00:37:34.780 as a free man.

00:37:35.560 And, and, and if everyone else did, then we would have power.

00:37:40.900 Then we would be able to unify and go, but we don't, we literally have Americans, even

00:37:45.920 patriots who are willing to lay down their arms.

00:37:51.120 And we've been seeing, we've been seeing that we've seen it.

00:37:53.240 And so I think a lot of people need to step back and check the shit that they say, because

00:37:56.900 they truly won't stand behind what it is that they think they believe.

00:38:02.000 Yeah.

00:38:02.760 Yeah.

00:38:03.080 I think that's true.

00:38:03.840 I think it's a whole lot easier to talk about these things than to actually do anything about

00:38:07.520 it.

00:38:07.680 And the time has come where it's, you know, maybe time to do something about it.

00:38:10.880 You know, even my wife and I, we went out yesterday.

00:38:12.700 It was really funny.

00:38:13.300 We went to this store and the guy had a mask on and my wife said, do you, do you, do we need

00:38:17.680 a mask?

00:38:18.140 And he's like, I don't care what you do.

00:38:19.920 He's like, I'm going to wear a mask, but it's a free country.

00:38:22.240 You're here patronizing my store.

00:38:24.100 You guys make the decision that's in your best interest.

00:38:26.240 And I'm like, thank you.

00:38:27.200 I told him, I said, thank you.

00:38:28.660 Finally, somebody who's like rational.

00:38:30.580 Like if you want to wear a mask, bro, wear a mask by all means.

00:38:34.160 I'm not interested in wearing a mask.

00:38:36.200 I'm not going to wear a mask.

00:38:36.860 That's why these people saying to me, oh, Sean, do it for everybody else.

00:38:40.320 Do it for the greater good.

00:38:41.820 Why, why can't you just do it?

00:38:43.460 That's the, what don't people don't fucking get, man.

00:38:45.960 They don't understand that.

00:38:47.160 Like, that's not what this country is.

00:38:49.880 Oh, Sean, you just want to get everybody sick and kill everybody.

00:38:52.440 No, motherfucker.

00:38:53.200 I'm looking at shit and I realize this ain't real.

00:38:55.820 You're the one buying into it not being real.

00:38:57.680 You're the one being told what to do with no credible evidence, with no fucking logic,

00:39:02.580 with no common sense.

00:39:03.500 I'm not.

00:39:04.380 So no, don't call me some murderer just because I don't want to fucking wear a mask.

00:39:08.600 Go do this to your neighbor.

00:39:09.920 Go do that.

00:39:10.380 Like, that's my point.

00:39:11.840 That's what people fucking fail.

00:39:13.160 Sean, we'll go.

00:39:14.280 We'll just flood the curve.

00:39:15.440 The curve's flat.

00:39:16.860 It's flat.

00:39:17.560 It's flat.

00:39:18.100 It's there.

00:39:19.220 Businesses are closed.

00:39:20.380 Beaches are closed.

00:39:21.500 Wake the fuck up, people.

00:39:24.640 We're just trying to flatten the curve.

00:39:25.940 This is just to help everybody, to make sure it doesn't go crazy.

00:39:28.540 It ain't going crazy.

00:39:29.540 The curve's flat.

00:39:30.240 Now what?

00:39:31.140 Businesses are still closed.

00:39:32.500 We're just going to slowly roll everything out, just to be sure, and all the fucking sheep

00:39:37.680 going, yes, master.

00:39:39.080 Yes, master.

00:39:39.940 Yes, master.

00:39:41.040 Fuck that.

00:39:42.320 Yeah, I like what you said the other day.

00:39:43.940 I think you had made a post on Facebook or Instagram where you just, but you basically

00:39:46.960 said, look, you don't need permission.

00:39:48.660 You don't, you're, if you're waiting for somebody to say, okay, now it's okay to open up.

00:39:52.600 You're going to be waiting a very long time.

00:39:53.800 We just found out that California and Governor Newsom is attempting to keep it closed for another,

00:39:59.360 not only, so what he said is this, he said three months, but then he also said and placed

00:40:03.560 some stipulations that said, once we see no coronavirus death, coronavirus death in 14 days,

00:40:10.660 I'm like, dude, 14 days.

00:40:12.820 That's never going to happen.

00:40:14.340 Never.

00:40:14.580 They just set precedence for this thing to go forever.

00:40:17.080 Forever.

00:40:17.300 And what are people doing?

00:40:18.300 Okay, sure.

00:40:19.160 Okay.

00:40:19.600 Yeah.

00:40:19.800 14 days.

00:40:20.480 That would be really good.

00:40:22.720 Fucking nuts, dude.

00:40:23.880 It's nuts.

00:40:25.060 Yeah.

00:40:25.400 So, I mean, basically it sounds like you're encouraging and I would encourage, if you

00:40:29.000 want to open your business, open your business.

00:40:30.640 Open it now.

00:40:31.320 You want to go out in public?

00:40:32.280 Go out in public.

00:40:33.180 Gun?

00:40:33.900 If you're going to stand out there with a fucking gun, stand out there with a fucking

00:40:36.900 gun.

00:40:38.920 Straight up.

00:40:39.860 Open your business.

00:40:40.660 Open it now.

00:40:41.400 Open everything now.

00:40:43.000 Go.

00:40:43.640 You bring 300 people to a park, they ain't going to arrest everybody.

00:40:47.340 Open up the fucking businesses.

00:40:48.840 Go patronize them.

00:40:49.700 Open this shit up.

00:40:50.800 Stop waiting for people to tell you that.

00:40:52.800 This country was founded by people that didn't wait for freedom.

00:40:55.700 They fucking fought for it.

00:40:57.300 Rebels.

00:40:57.580 Our government is not going to say, okay, here's the green light.

00:41:00.140 And if you don't fucking believe that, read.

00:41:02.500 Educate yourself.

00:41:03.340 Look at what's going on.

00:41:05.300 Look at what's fucking happening.

00:41:06.680 It's not going to happen.

00:41:08.440 And the longer we let this thing keep going and we don't open up, we don't fucking go.

00:41:14.040 We don't.

00:41:14.680 We the people.

00:41:15.440 Me and you.

00:41:17.140 I mean, we're opening up my restaurant.

00:41:18.920 We're opening it back up.

00:41:20.820 The, uh, you know.

00:41:22.160 Mos Port Fivor in Las Vegas?

00:41:24.420 Is it in Vegas?

00:41:25.420 Yeah, it's in Vegas.

00:41:26.740 Mos Port Fivor in Las Vegas.

00:41:27.920 A lot of people are giving me shit because we closed and I just real talk to be completely

00:41:31.100 blunt.

00:41:31.500 Like I'm a minority owner in that.

00:41:33.520 Um, and I, I have been in my partner's ears every fucking day.

00:41:37.260 Let's go.

00:41:37.860 Let's go.

00:41:38.440 Let's go.

00:41:39.020 Let's go.

00:41:39.560 And you know, that's the only reason that thing's not open.

00:41:42.500 But are things officially locked down in, in Las Vegas?

00:41:46.100 Where are things?

00:41:46.480 I don't know.

00:41:46.820 Where are things at in Las Vegas?

00:41:47.960 Same thing.

00:41:48.720 Locked down.

00:41:49.220 Don't open the restaurants.

00:41:50.080 All that stuff.

00:41:50.620 Casinos are down.

00:41:51.480 Casinos are fucking shut.

00:41:53.120 That town is getting just absolutely obliterated, bro.

00:41:56.760 Demolished.

00:41:57.160 People don't understand this.

00:41:58.360 Like people's bit, they won't be able to come back.

00:42:01.120 This is what most of these assholes don't understand.

00:42:03.340 You spend 10 years building a business and in a matter of two, three, four months, it's

00:42:07.120 wiped out and gone.

00:42:08.340 And all of a sudden the government goes, open back up.

00:42:10.820 You're done.

00:42:11.680 Right.

00:42:12.160 You're not opening back up.

00:42:13.160 You can't open back up.

00:42:14.100 You're fucking bankrupt.

00:42:15.180 You're done.

00:42:16.380 The government ain't bailing everybody out.

00:42:18.200 Like everybody would like to believe it's not happening.

00:42:20.780 This is going to literally obliterate people's lives.

00:42:24.120 Bob Johnson, who has his plumbing company, he had to lay all of his people off.

00:42:28.800 Those people fucking start committing suicide.

00:42:30.860 They're going other places trying to find work.

00:42:32.580 Like think this through.

00:42:33.520 Like people are not fucking thinking this through and they're not pissed off enough.

00:42:36.140 Why?

00:42:36.540 Because they're fucking fat and happy with their, with their crumbs.

00:42:39.480 Right.

00:42:40.060 Government's just giving the peasants their crumbs.

00:42:42.320 And everybody's like, yay.

00:42:43.900 Yeah.

00:42:44.120 They get crumbs today.

00:42:45.240 I've got, I've got friends who own businesses who have decided to reopen and they've invited

00:42:53.220 their employees back to come work and their employees are like, nah, we're good.

00:42:56.560 Cause the benefits they're receiving are greater than what they would do from work.

00:43:01.400 Don't even get me started on that.

00:43:02.980 That's a wild thing, man.

00:43:04.400 Don't even get me started on that.

00:43:05.940 I can't imagine anybody saying, I don't want to go out and produce.

00:43:08.620 I just want, I mean, I know that it's real, but it's a wild thing.

00:43:11.140 Look at how many people are on welfare.

00:43:12.720 That's what I'm saying.

00:43:13.260 It's sad, dude.

00:43:15.880 It's sad, but you want to know something?

00:43:17.800 I'm just focused on me, bro.

00:43:19.380 I'm building my business.

00:43:20.320 I'm making my money.

00:43:21.180 I'm doing what I need to do.

00:43:22.540 What's in the best interest for me, for my freedom, for my family.

00:43:25.260 People don't want to go to work.

00:43:26.140 Fuck them.

00:43:27.200 Well, that's all you can do.

00:43:28.920 Right.

00:43:29.300 It's like, focus on you, improve yourself, improve your capabilities, your skillset,

00:43:32.860 do what's in your best interest.

00:43:35.320 Teach your kids to do the same thing.

00:43:36.560 Encourage your wife and then work out from there.

00:43:38.160 Your neighbors, your friends, your colleagues, your coworkers continue to work out from there.

00:43:41.620 I see so many people who are like, man, I want to change the world.

00:43:44.200 I'm like, change yourself, dude.

00:43:45.400 Like, change yourself first.

00:43:46.580 That's how you change the world.

00:43:47.600 Exactly.

00:43:48.520 Exactly.

00:43:49.020 Everybody wants to change the world, but they're too terrified to look inside, man.

00:43:52.860 You got to look inside.

00:43:54.100 And I've told people this.

00:43:54.820 People said, well, Sean, what do I do?

00:43:55.900 What's the best advice you can give me during this downturn, during this whole thing?

00:43:59.460 Get your house in order.

00:44:00.900 My story ain't changing.

00:44:02.740 Like, guys, this is the beauty about the internet, the World Wide Web.

00:44:05.560 Thanks, Al Gore, for creating this, right?

00:44:07.180 Like, this is the beauty of it.

00:44:08.360 You can go back and verify everything.

00:44:09.520 I'm saying the same thing.

00:44:10.560 I've been saying the same thing for six months, eight months, 12 months, long before the scandemic

00:44:14.460 showed up.

00:44:14.980 I've been telling people, get your shit in order.

00:44:16.800 Get your money right.

00:44:18.020 Get your body right.

00:44:19.240 Because times will come.

00:44:20.480 There will be a time where you're going to need to stand on your own two feet.

00:44:24.600 And this is the definition of communism.

00:44:26.800 This is the definition of socialism.

00:44:29.100 Entrap people so that they literally can't go do anything.

00:44:32.640 And then they're beholden to the master.

00:44:36.200 Study the fuck up, people.

00:44:37.640 Study up, man.

00:44:38.260 This is literally happening right now.

00:44:41.860 Wild times indeed, my brother.

00:44:44.000 Sounds like...

00:44:44.700 Great times, though.

00:44:45.380 I will say, though, it is beautiful.

00:44:47.160 Well, there's lots of opportunity.

00:44:48.480 There are plenty of opportunities.

00:44:49.820 Lots of opportunity.

00:44:50.520 It creates polarity, too.

00:44:51.840 I love polarity.

00:44:53.260 And it sucks.

00:44:54.160 Polarity sucks sometimes.

00:44:55.060 It's difficult because, you know, no one wants to be in the dark.

00:45:01.140 But the truth is, the greatest lessons I've ever learned in my entire life came in the

00:45:04.840 darkness.

00:45:06.160 And the tide went out.

00:45:07.400 And it exposed a lot of people.

00:45:08.840 It exposed where people were financially, where they were emotionally, where they were

00:45:11.720 psychologically.

00:45:12.720 And at the end of the day, man, the tide went out.

00:45:14.400 And I'm glad that it humiliated some people.

00:45:17.440 I'm glad.

00:45:18.080 And I don't say that to be a dick.

00:45:19.620 I say it because that sting that you feel now, knowing that you can't provide for your

00:45:23.660 family, bro, man, the guy who's listening to this, who knows that he can't fucking provide

00:45:28.860 for his family.

00:45:29.780 Don't call Ryan Mickler.

00:45:31.240 Don't fucking blame Ryan Mickler.

00:45:32.620 Don't blame Sean Whalen.

00:45:33.900 It ain't order a man or lion's not sheep's fault.

00:45:35.820 It's your fucking fault.

00:45:37.620 And you should let that sting.

00:45:38.860 Let that shit sting.

00:45:40.000 It's supposed to hurt.

00:45:40.620 Like, create that, like, step into that humility and realize, fuck, dude, I'm not free.

00:45:46.820 And now be motivated to go fucking follow Ryan Mickler, to follow Sean, to do those things

00:45:53.120 that lion's not sheep and order a man.

00:45:54.580 It's kind of funny.

00:45:55.180 We're both wearing black.

00:45:56.000 We both got our shit on.

00:45:57.200 It's goddamn glorious, right?

00:45:59.300 It's like I learned some things from you or something.

00:46:01.020 I don't know.

00:46:01.580 I love seeing you thrive, bro.

00:46:02.860 I truly fucking do.

00:46:03.820 I really mean that with all my heart.

00:46:05.260 I fucking love it.

00:46:06.360 Thank you, man.

00:46:07.300 Take these lessons, friend.

00:46:09.400 Take them.

00:46:09.940 If you're hearing this right now and you think I'm a dick, fuck you.

00:46:12.940 That's your problem.

00:46:13.840 That ain't mine.

00:46:14.940 I got cash in the bank.

00:46:16.040 I've been doing the shit I've been telling people to do for a year.

00:46:20.460 And that's the reason I am where I am.

00:46:22.040 And I don't owe anybody dick for that.

00:46:25.260 I don't owe you an apology.

00:46:26.660 I don't feel bad at all.

00:46:28.340 I don't feel bad that I'm racing fucking cars, having the time of my life.

00:46:32.600 Because I've been doing the fucking work.

00:46:34.900 So let that shit sting.

00:46:36.740 Let it sting.

00:46:38.240 And now do something with it.

00:46:39.420 Become fucking ruthlessly committed to your freedom, to having money, to putting cash

00:46:44.900 in the bank, to having assets, making you money.

00:46:49.220 I want to help the poor.

00:46:50.580 That's one of my goals in life.

00:46:51.540 Well, then don't fucking be poor.

00:46:53.380 Right.

00:46:54.060 You can't help them down there.

00:46:55.220 It's true, man.

00:46:58.680 It's true.

00:46:59.180 I don't have any other words like, because I'm like, yeah, yeah.

00:47:01.560 What you're saying.

00:47:02.120 Yes.

00:47:02.440 Yes.

00:47:02.700 What you're saying is right.

00:47:03.820 And I think these moments.

00:47:04.460 People have two choices.

00:47:06.280 Be mad.

00:47:06.820 Agreed.

00:47:07.280 Keep cussing me and you.

00:47:08.720 Keep saying Ryan's a dick.

00:47:09.840 Sean's a dick.

00:47:10.380 Or let it fucking sting.

00:47:12.980 Get in front of your whiteboard.

00:47:14.680 Get in front of your pad of paper.

00:47:16.200 And now build your fucking map to wealth.

00:47:18.300 Build your map to freedom.

00:47:20.600 You've given everybody the maps.

00:47:22.200 You've given them tools.

00:47:23.180 I've given people countless tools.

00:47:25.100 Countless tools.

00:47:27.160 Now it's time for you to use them, friend.

00:47:28.780 It's funny.

00:47:29.240 We had a guy in the Facebook group the other day.

00:47:31.160 He was asking about how to, like, he struggles with being disciplined with his eating.

00:47:37.700 And he was asking for advice.

00:47:39.320 I'm like, dude, like, what other advice do you need?

00:47:42.220 What could anybody possibly tell you that you don't already know?

00:47:47.020 The real question is, why do you keep doing it?

00:47:50.060 Yeah.

00:47:50.280 Like, why do you keep eating?

00:47:51.960 Why do you keep doing things that you know you don't want to do?

00:47:55.060 It's not what should you do.

00:47:56.420 It's why can't you do it?

00:47:57.760 And then fix that problem.

00:47:59.680 You're full of shit.

00:48:00.440 You're a liar.

00:48:01.040 You're just a liar.

00:48:02.080 No, you don't know, man.

00:48:03.080 I don't fucking need to know.

00:48:05.200 It's not hard.

00:48:05.600 Nobody made you put a cheeseburger in your mouth.

00:48:08.320 But, Sean, it's hard to eat healthy.

00:48:09.820 It's so expensive.

00:48:11.100 It's so hard.

00:48:12.120 I travel a lot.

00:48:13.420 I go to the airport.

00:48:14.840 And if it's time to eat, I get two chicken sandwiches and a bunch of fucking broccoli.

00:48:20.380 Every restaurant on the planet has chicken sandwiches and broccoli, motherfucker.

00:48:24.980 Get two or three chicken sandwiches.

00:48:26.620 There's your chicken breast.

00:48:27.460 There's your broccoli.

00:48:28.200 What's your excuse now?

00:48:31.340 There are none.

00:48:32.380 That is a good point.

00:48:33.820 Like, you can get a salad anywhere.

00:48:35.260 You can get meat anywhere.

00:48:36.720 McDonald's.

00:48:37.480 Go to McDonald's.

00:48:38.240 They have grilled.

00:48:38.980 It isn't the best chicken.

00:48:40.300 I'm not going to pretend it's farm-raised, grass-fed, whatever.

00:48:42.920 However, go get three of those chicken sandwiches.

00:48:46.900 Take the fucking chicken patty off.

00:48:49.160 Eat that shit.

00:48:49.800 Get a side salad.

00:48:51.060 Bang.

00:48:51.480 There's your healthy meal.

00:48:52.800 Done.

00:48:53.040 Good to go.

00:48:53.980 Yeah, it's just an excuse.

00:48:54.860 Everything is an excuse, right?

00:48:56.380 Yep.

00:48:57.040 Yep.

00:48:57.380 Yeah.

00:48:58.240 We're right on, brother.

00:48:58.880 I know you're busy.

00:48:59.900 I know you got a race to complete here.

00:49:02.360 This is round two.

00:49:03.280 So we're going to put these out.

00:49:04.160 I think we're just going to put them out back to back so the guys can hear it because

00:49:06.700 they need to hear it, man.

00:49:08.220 They need to have these conversations.

00:49:09.300 They need to hear them.

00:49:09.980 And then they need to get to action.

00:49:11.000 That's the biggest thing.

00:49:11.800 And that's one of the things I worry about most with what we're doing.

00:49:15.240 We talk a lot.

00:49:16.140 We communicate a lot.

00:49:16.920 We share a lot of ideas.

00:49:17.820 And I'm like, you know, it's good.

00:49:19.280 But then does it give people a crutch?

00:49:22.440 It's like, stop listening.

00:49:23.760 Turn this off for a minute.

00:49:24.720 And just go to work this week.

00:49:26.440 Do what you want.

00:49:27.180 You don't need any new information.

00:49:28.840 I'll keep bringing it, but you don't need it.

00:49:30.760 You just need to go to work and get to work.

00:49:32.680 Neither am I.

00:49:33.580 Of course.

00:49:34.440 Newsflash.

00:49:35.120 Lion's not sheep.

00:49:36.640 Order of man ain't going to save you.

00:49:38.120 I don't have a magic pill.

00:49:39.280 Ryan doesn't have magic.

00:49:39.960 Well, you can give me $100,000 right now.

00:49:41.780 Do you want to know what I'm going to tell you to do tomorrow?

00:49:44.640 Eat healthy.

00:49:46.100 Lift weights.

00:49:48.500 Invest in your relationships.

00:49:50.320 Have a clearly defined map of how you're going to make money.

00:49:53.620 And educate yourself.

00:49:55.060 Feed your brain.

00:49:57.040 Hey, one testimony I want to give you on this is I remember a couple of years I came to one of the Lions Not Sheep events.

00:50:05.840 I was like a two and a half or three day event or whatever it was.

00:50:08.580 And I remember you had us all list out our roadmap on not what only we wanted, but how exactly we were going to get to that point and what we're going to do on a daily basis to get there.

00:50:17.760 And I came up with some ideas and you had shared some insight.

00:50:21.680 You're like, no, it's not specific enough, man.

00:50:23.240 It's not.

00:50:23.600 It's like you want to make more money.

00:50:24.920 Cool.

00:50:25.180 Like how much do you want to make?

00:50:26.120 And I wrote down that I wanted to make, I wanted to have a $30,000 a month, 30, 30 days, right?

00:50:32.240 Like I want to make $30,000, $1,000 a day in 30 days in this timeframe.

00:50:36.220 And what was amazing about it, amazing about it is I didn't stop there, right?

00:50:40.320 Like you said, okay, what are your taxes?

00:50:41.540 How are you going to do that?

00:50:42.320 Like, cool.

00:50:42.880 You know what you want?

00:50:43.760 Like, how are you going to do it?

00:50:44.540 So I wrote down how I was going to do it.

00:50:46.000 And no joke, it was a 90-day goal I had.

00:50:49.980 It was like day 85 or 86.

00:50:53.520 I pulled up my account and sure enough, man, I hit like $32,000 on day 87 for that month.

00:51:00.220 And I was like, yes, what Sean is talking about is real.

00:51:05.280 Like it's legitimate.

00:51:07.120 Rinse and repeat.

00:51:08.240 It's only got better from there, man.

00:51:10.020 And I wrote a lot of that to you.

00:51:11.280 I'm proud of you, dude.

00:51:11.440 I really am.

00:51:11.940 I am proud of you.

00:51:12.840 I don't say that in jest.

00:51:14.060 I don't say that arrogantly.

00:51:15.060 I just, you're one of the people that I've been blessed to have a part of my life and

00:51:21.080 be able to share little nuggets.

00:51:23.040 And this isn't from me being better than anybody.

00:51:26.580 It's me having done it.

00:51:27.680 I went down the path.

00:51:28.680 I was fat.

00:51:29.420 I was broke.

00:51:30.120 And I figured things out that worked.

00:51:31.780 And this is what I do with people.

00:51:33.160 I help them create results, right?

00:51:35.380 Right.

00:51:35.620 You a life coach?

00:51:36.340 I don't know what a life coach is.

00:51:37.600 I'm a results coach.

00:51:39.000 Where do you want to go?

00:51:39.940 Awesome.

00:51:40.260 Let's build a map to get there.

00:51:42.100 So, dude, it's fun seeing you do that.

00:51:43.800 I'm the same way.

00:51:44.340 Thank you, man.

00:51:45.060 I was driving with my kids yesterday.

00:51:46.380 All three of my kids work for me.

00:51:48.320 And my goal is to have Lions Not Sheep Apparel doing a million dollars a month of sales by

00:51:54.100 the end of 2020.

00:51:55.860 And I was wrapping my head around that.

00:51:57.840 I was doing the math with my kids saying it's about $33,000 a day is what we need to be doing.

00:52:03.980 And my kids are like, what are we doing now, dad?

00:52:06.180 Because we're fucking crazy.

00:52:07.120 We've grown like 2,000% in the last 45 days.

00:52:09.840 I saw that.

00:52:10.300 Like, it's super nuts right now.

00:52:11.940 Which I'm incredibly blessed.

00:52:13.340 I'm not complaining at all.

00:52:14.760 I'm like, yeah, we're doing like right now about $2,000 to $3,000 a day in sales.

00:52:19.620 And my son's like, that's like 10 times the amount.

00:52:21.800 I'm like, you're good at math, bro.

00:52:23.460 I said, well, you better get faster at your fucking job or I'm going to replace your ass.

00:52:27.180 But dude, I have very clear goals of how I'm going to do that.

00:52:29.920 I want to make a million dollars a month.

00:52:32.660 Lions Not Sheep Apparel.

00:52:33.520 Just one of my businesses.

00:52:34.800 It's my goal by the end of 2020.

00:52:35.680 And I've built a map on exactly how I am going to do that in Q2, Q3, Q4.

00:52:41.520 You know what I like about that?

00:52:43.600 Because I think a lot of people, they outthink themselves, right?

00:52:48.100 So they're like, oh, well, if I do this and I create this and I do it this way, I know

00:52:51.840 I like what he has to share.

00:52:53.000 And then maybe I'll take what he has to share and some of this and some of that.

00:52:55.640 And then I'll create my own thing.

00:52:56.640 It's like, I guess for me, I feel like I've always been, I don't know, too dumb or hard

00:53:01.480 headed or whatever, however you want to look at it and say, okay, that guy knows what

00:53:04.580 he's doing, I'll just do what he does.

00:53:06.820 And, and I'll probably produce similar results.

00:53:09.180 Like, I'm not going to recreate a bunch of shit.

00:53:11.000 Like he knows what he's doing.

00:53:12.320 I'm going to do that.

00:53:13.400 And it actually works.

00:53:14.740 So you can call me dumb or whatever else.

00:53:17.680 He's been selling products online for 10 years.

00:53:20.360 One of the, I mean, the dude does hundreds of thousands of dollars a day of sales.

00:53:23.640 What do you think I'm fucking copying?

00:53:25.080 Who do you think I'm hanging out with?

00:53:26.360 Why do you think I'm, I'm picking, picking his brain all day long?

00:53:28.980 Why do you think it is that I put myself in proximity of power?

00:53:31.320 I put myself around successful people that are doing what I want to be doing.

00:53:35.280 People ask me all the time.

00:53:35.860 How do you find a coach?

00:53:36.780 Find somebody doing what you want to be doing and pay them.

00:53:39.540 I have chosen to invest my money and my time to spend more time around Jason.

00:53:43.680 And every single time I do, I learn.

00:53:45.560 Right.

00:53:47.240 Love it, man.

00:53:48.020 All right, brother.

00:53:48.520 We'll get to it.

00:53:49.180 You're awesome, dude.

00:53:49.680 Thank you for having me on the show.

00:53:51.960 You're a scholar and a gentleman.

00:53:52.820 Keep going.

00:53:53.700 All right, brother.

00:53:54.240 Have a good one.

00:53:54.660 Talk soon.

00:53:55.220 Bye.

00:53:55.380 Bye.

00:53:55.400 Gentlemen, there you go.

00:53:57.640 My conversation with the one and only Sean Whalen.

00:53:59.740 I hope that you laughed and you cried and you got mad and you got motivated and every

00:54:04.000 other spectrum of emotions that you could have experienced in any singular conversation.

00:54:08.980 I know that some of you are fired up.

00:54:11.700 I know that some of you maybe were rubbed the wrong way, but regardless, these are the

00:54:16.800 kind of conversations I enjoy having.

00:54:18.500 They're unscripted, they're raw, and I always walk away with at least one new insight or

00:54:26.800 new perspective that causes me to think differently about my life and then ultimately to perform

00:54:32.080 differently.

00:54:32.700 And isn't that what we all want, right?

00:54:34.160 We all want to perform differently.

00:54:36.320 We want to have and do and be more than we currently are.

00:54:40.080 So if that conversation resonated with you, connect with me, connect with Sean on the socials.

00:54:45.820 He's on Instagram, Facebook, I think he's very active on Facebook more so than Instagram.

00:54:49.680 I'm mostly active on Instagram, connect with us regardless.

00:54:52.880 Let us know what you thought about the conversation, share it on, on social media.

00:54:57.400 Last time I had Sean on, you guys blew up the Instagram stories.

00:55:01.340 Keep doing that because that's how people are going to see this stuff.

00:55:03.420 So blow up the messages, blow up the stories, reshares, all those kinds of things, because

00:55:07.900 it goes a long way in making sure more men get this message and hear what needs to be

00:55:12.760 heard.

00:55:13.220 So guys, please do that.

00:55:14.740 Also, take two seconds, leave the rating, the five-star rating.

00:55:18.620 All you have to do is click on those five stars.

00:55:20.300 It'll take you two seconds.

00:55:21.280 And again, if you feel so inclined, you can leave a review as well.

00:55:25.460 That would be much appreciated.

00:55:26.960 Guys, we'll be back tomorrow for the Ask Me Anything with my co-host, Kip Sorensen.

00:55:31.900 But until then, go out there, take action and become the man you are meant to be.

00:55:36.200 Thank you for listening to the Order of Man podcast.

00:55:39.060 You're ready to take charge of your life and be more of the man you were meant to be.

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Order of Man - August 04, 2020

The Power of Uncomfortable Truths, Part 2 ｜ SEAN WHALEN

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