Pearl - October 17, 2025
Andrew Wilson Debunks Born Again Virgins And Tradcon Liars
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Summary
In this episode of my reaction series, we are reacting to andrew wilson's comments about women who are born-again christianists. We discuss why he is harsh on them, why he treats them so harshly, and why he doesn't welcome people wanting to change their ways.
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you're saying emotionally when i hear what you say it emotionally makes me feel bad well that's great
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but i need you to understand that i don't give a how it makes you feel
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what i care about is well guys welcome to my reaction series today we are reacting to andrew
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wilson um checkmate an overweight ukrainian calling him a sinner for being fat so i don't
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think andrew's fat um but okay and i love calling people fat i wouldn't really tell say andrew's
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fat but all right let's go it's one bone to pick with him is here this is in disagreements go ahead
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well i think andrew wilson is a very smart man and i enjoy listening to his debates one bone to pick
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with him is his treatment of women who are born again um in my experience it sort of seems like
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you are extra harsh on them and what i would think is that if you wanted the world to be
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less degenerate that you would sort of welcome people wanting to change their ways so i'm just
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curious what your motive is and being so harsh and i'd love to hear about it andrew before you answer
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can you just for for the panel and then for the viewers um do you yeah for your ocd yes right here
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i'm framed up no no no that's not um just uh can you just give a rundown so your your denomination
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of christianity yeah i'm a eastern orthodox christian um i i'm not a uh not a protestant i'm happy to get
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into this though right because i think that that's a uh seemingly fair criticism on its face
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but as you've seen from can we agree on a couple of things first though do you've seen from tonight's
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panel i basically only give out the same energy that i get is that is that a fair thing to say
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you'd have to elaborate on that more meaning unless you're being particularly hostile towards me i'm not
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particularly hostile towards you i don't actually agree with that i mean have i been have i been
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particularly hostile with you not with me but i think that you i've noticed you being particularly
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hostile to this woman that's the thing andrew is really nice i know him personally he's a really nice
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guy and as long as you are nice to him in general um he's nice to you obviously every person has their
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moments um when you stream hours and hours a day the the one thing that people don't understand
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there are times where you lose your temper you're a little more agitated things happen um and when
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people hate you they're just like waiting for you to lose your temper so they can use it against you
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they're much like women haters on youtube you're being particularly hostile how was i uh how was i
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hostile with her i thought that we had a good back and forth engagement i think that once you
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make your point hang on hang on let me finish i treat her exactly how i would treat any man who
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was sitting where she was who had a contrary opinion to my own sure did i treat her differently than
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that no okay so then by your logic then it's not just born again women who i would be uh brutal
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with in a debate but also men correct true yeah so i'm just going to treat both exactly the same
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yes right okay so go ahead with the rest of your criticism just want to make sure we get this uh
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well i'm just what i'm curious about is your intention when you come on and you
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like what is wrong with a woman deciding that what she was doing was wrong and she wants to change her
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ways i haven't heard it on this panel tonight but on a lot of the whatever podcast that's what i hear
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like there were a couple girls sitting here you know and you i don't know what's wrong with them
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deciding that they don't want to do what they're doing anymore and i don't know what kind of resume
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you have to have for you to not mock nothing's wrong with that then why are you still mocking them
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no well okay so i need you to try to separate two different two different things going on okay so
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i believe that culture is downwind of theology and politics is downwind of of culture so i think
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that politics is informed by the culture and the culture is informed by theology so imagine to my
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chagrin if you have women who will take christianity and fuck it all up and twist it all up and mess it
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all up in order to appeal to uh other women and give them incorrect theology yeah that's what
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happens is a lot of times women convert five minutes ago and then they become preachers and
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we wonder why the bible is so messed up now uh because women misinterpret it all the time men can
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um breed things and understand it us on the other hand we need a man to help us and then preach that
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incorrect theology and so we end up tangling in a theological debate where they say all sorts of
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crazy shit like this for instance yes it's okay if you play with tarot cards and you're a christian
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or alternatively yes it's okay to be a magic user and a christian or alternatively yes uh there's no
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you know uh you were a prostitute but that's very similar to people smoking cigarettes you can imagine
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my chagrin hearing that from these women because it seems like they're trying to uh placate other
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women into bringing them into a false faith which i think apostatizing is worse worse than anything else
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so i think coming into false christianity is almost as bad as the degeneracy itself okay that's a great
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answer my what i would say back to you is that the way that you argue it doesn't seem like you have a
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lot of love it doesn't seem like it's coming from love like because women cannot take criticism
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women cannot take correction you you really see the character of a woman when
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and how she takes correction is she combative or does she eat it there was one not coming from love
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it's coming from logic but i don't make argumentation is in love i mean is is man for law or is law for
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man there was one woman who was here and she turned around will you let me finish please she turned
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around and said that she didn't want to do her old ways anymore she had already come so far she had a
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husband she had a ministry and you were on here like getting on her about oh i'm gonna kill my
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oh i gotta stop saying that it's very frustrating to hear about nala um because
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i mean we all know that this girl was getting gang banged on camera now she's got a ministry
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and this is going to encourage other women that have gotten gang banged on camera to open a ministry
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now a lot of times the christians they come back and say well isn't that better than getting gang
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banged on camera and to that i say well you could argue that it would be better if they just shut up
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and get to the back of the church and listen and learn and just be a better person without
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drawing a lot of attention you know it's just again i keep bringing up this analogy but it's
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just not the same when you're like oh look at me i'm a good person you know it just doesn't have
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the same ring to it did you say she had a ministry yeah and i that's what you were getting on her about
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i'm clear that's what you were getting on her about stop stop my turn now did you say she had a
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ministry of women yeah are women allowed to have ministries that's what you say but i don't agree
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with that right you don't agree with that you're preaching a false doctrine you want women to be
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clergy i think that you not inside of a hang on let me finish inside of a patriarchal okay you tell
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me when i'm allowed to respond to your points go ahead okay i think that when you preach out of this
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like intent to mock women i mean the your your base is men like i feel like when you come on these
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things i mean correct me if i'm wrong but it feels like your intent is to mock women for these comments
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and it i don't see how that is helping the world be better i understand what you're saying that you
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don't want women um with a false doctrine but at the same time it just seems like it's not coming
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from love that you are like women want to turn away from porn or turn away from like what they've
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been doing and you are like berating them you're criticizing them you're making it like you're
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embarrassing them and making it hard for other women why is she on a podcast look part of being
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on a podcast is you know do you know how many times i've been embarrassed on the internet oh my god
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you know they take something i say out of context or maybe i don't form a coherent thought i mean i get
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embarrassed all the time but that's part of the game um so don't women come into the game and then
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say get rid of the bad parts of the game i just want the good parts and i'm like well that's part
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of life and who are maybe viewing this to turn their own ways and to me that's that's making degeneracy
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grow like you are enabling this hate women sort of mentality in my opinion that's what that's how it
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comes off to a woman watching the show it's like you are not able to turn away from what you want
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to turn from can i add to that and i don't want to like be judgmental you can't add to that because
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we're in the middle of having a conversation and then you can add to it so am i allowed to respond
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to these points now now can you admit that i did not interrupt you at all while you were going through
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that great so let's go through it one at a time he has to do such kid gloves poor andrew he has to do
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such kid gloves with women one that's just tone policing you never made a single argument why do i
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want people to come into a false faith why do i want that that's bad not only that but let us assume
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for a second that you don't know my end of it how many people reach out to me uh after these shows
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who are women who say thank you for challenging my worldview i never thought of things like that
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at all or i know i got demolished or how many hundreds of women send me dms outside of this show
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who say it's due to your argumentation your logical argumentation that i came over to this
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you're making arguments which are appealing to emotion you're saying emotionally when i hear what
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you say it emotionally makes me feel bad well that's great but i need you to understand that i
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don't give a shit how it makes you feel what i care about is what is logically true and consistent
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and what i care about is the arguments you might say so for instance imagine this you would agree with
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me that there's going to be a lot more christians if we include homosexuals into christianity right
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i don't know i wasn't brought up in church i don't know okay but you would agree that if you had a
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church which barred homosexuals and then the church allowed homosexuals in that you would have
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a lot more andrew avoid that topic if you can okay um could i respond to what you said if if it was
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people of the same sex if you let more of them in right you would agree that you would have a much
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larger congregation right but you can't you can't allow people to defeat what the purpose of the
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religion is uh because they choose not to wake up one day and go i'm not going to be a prostitute
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anymore and then i need you to respond to my last point and this is the the one that i really want
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you to focus on there's a lot of women who utilize christianity and the faith of christianity to hide
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behind and they become reformed not because they have found christ at all but because they use
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christianity as a shield from criticism and that i believe is where most of the tone pleasing from
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women comes from that utilizing tone policing to say no you're not allowed to criticize me now
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because i've turned away from my degenerate ways no that's not the purpose of christianity either is
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that now suddenly you're above criticism that's not how that works yeah i know about your your
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stance on tone i know about that and that's not actually what offends me um what offends me is
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actually your use of the law against women because i don't think that like that that woman who was here
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um who was who had been born again and and she had gone such a long ways and you were it doesn't matter
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the way you say it like i know how your stance on tone so it's fine by me but you were saying that
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she was somehow not worthy of being who she was because she was teaching other women
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i don't think i said that's right so let me so let me respond to both of these points
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point one she can't teach other women because women can't be clergy in christianity
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two she made it a point that niceness was a christian a part of christian doctrine and it's not
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and it never has been yeah because we don't fully understand it then we try to teach it it's like
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it's we try so hard it just doesn't work and and i pointed out that this is not a christian virtue
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she's teaching falsely women cannot be clergy in christianity period they're not allowed to be
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clergy period never not not even not even once they're not allowed to even once you can't be like
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oh we're just fun and we just made one for the fun of it even if the results of it you could argue
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the results or the consequences of this might be better in some way it doesn't matter the purpose
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of the religion is not that the consequences are always good that's not the purpose of the religion
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i understand so i do know that that's backed up biblically and i'd also like to say that in first
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timothy it says treat older women like your mothers and treat younger women like they're your sisters with
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purity and i'm wondering where do you what the hell i mean back in 2023 i was put on a government
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watch list for speaking out about men's issues the government spent who knows how much money trying
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to shut me up and honestly to some extent it worked i was demonetized on youtube i had three instagram
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community will never have to worry about being silenced again don't you want to treat women with
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honesty why can we not be honest with women you follow the law on that well so yeah let's dive into
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this when it when we're talking about matrons you're talking about paul in this case and i quote this quite
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a bit myself and when you're talking about matrons and how matrons are supposed to teach they're supposed
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to teach from a position of a pure heart to uh only women they're not supposed to have a ministry
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ministry would imply both it's okay for matrons to give that woman said hang on let me finish i'm
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answering the question it's okay for matrons to give matronly wisdom but they're not allowed to teach
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the gospel they're not allowed to do that that's not their place they're not allowed to be clergy
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well why are you allowed to not treat women with respect almost done almost
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oh poor andrew almost done didn't cut you off almost done if she was just talking to her daughter
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about about the gospel things like this fine okay but saying i'm a minister i'm a part of clergy and teach
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women as a part of a church clergy is wrong period it's wrong across the board okay i disagree
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do you know what's also wrong smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol which you've been doing the
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whole time you know if we're gonna talk about bulb because you're nagging nagging body is a temple
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your body is a temple he's fat you can't say anything where's that said in the bible it is said in the bible
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and you're ruining your temple and it does say you're not supposed to get drunk because am i
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drunk i'm not i'm just saying you're drinking alcohol you're smoking cigarettes you're ruining
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alcohol problem no i'm just saying if you're going to talk about christian drinking alcohol is not a
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problem okay so then why'd you bring it up as being a problem getting getting getting drunk is
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any kind of am i drunk i don't know are you well let's see i'm just saying if you're gonna judge
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five hours if we've been at the show for five hours you're gonna judge do you think i'm drunk i don't
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know but if you're gonna judge then you know you have to get judgment back so and that's fine and
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a good christian actually doesn't have judged hang on hang on so you have judged that christians are
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not allowed to drink alcohol is that correct that's not what i'm saying why did you bring that up as a
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criticism of me you can't say that you're so righteous if you're sending a lot and sins are
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the same in the bible i can't drink it's only why i can't drink it does not matter if you are
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tell me why the truth is what matters she was calling herself a pastor which is not possible
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and a lie a lie is a sin teaching from a place of lies furthers the sin
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tell me so tell me where where tell me why i'm not allowed to drink beer while while i'm doing a
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podcast tell me why that's sinful tell me why that's wrong go ahead you can do whatever you
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want and i'm not judging you nobody's perfect i think what you're trying to say if you're ruining
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your temple which is god's body for you right do i ruin my temple when i eat a donut just like a
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prostitute is ruining her body it's the same thing a sin is a sin it says in the old testament right
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they are evil sins lying stealing am i allowed to eat a donut technically no it's bad for your body
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no i'm not allowed to eat a donut am i allowed to breathe oxygen i mean because that's the case
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she's fat she cannot be like it's just sometimes what are these women they say they're christian
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but they have the audacity to lecture men it's not your place my god body over time but if you're
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talking about putting like high fructose corn syrup and all those bad things in your body it is
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it is your temple you're i'm not that one in this saying we're perfect but i'm just calling you out
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i want to make sure hang on hang on stop now you know now if you want to know why it is i'm so hard
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on these women now you know because this woman next to you just told me that it's sinful to drink
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she couldn't back it up right she did she she did make it is simple hang on stop my turn now she did
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make an actual biblical appeal but she didn't know where it was she just heard it in passing on top of
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that she said i can't drink a coke i can't eat a donut right i can't do anything apparently christians
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aren't allowed to do anything because if we eat a donut that's like sucking a hundred dicks like a
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isn't that an entailment i'm sorry isn't that an entailment isn't sucking a hundred penises like
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me eating a donut go ahead well i think what she's trying to say which she can correct me if i'm wrong
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but i think what she's trying to say is that everybody has all these like sins whether they're
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hidden or not okay i'm not saying i'm not saying what you're doing is a sin i don't know you you
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know i don't know what in the context of it i'm just saying you can't tell me what i'm doing is a
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sin or not you don't have judgment no you don't have discernment you can't discern what's a sin
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no uh-uh not why should i take your word for anything when it comes to christianity you can't even
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discern what's a sin it's between you and god andrew i'm not gonna like i'm not gonna look into
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your life yeah you can have whatever criticisms you have about me you know that's fine all i'm
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saying is that have i made any personal criticisms about you seems like all the criticisms have to
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come from you guys to me what you just said was that you can't trust what i say about god and that's
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fine because like i said i didn't that's not a personal criticism that's an entailment of your
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logic and if you say i cannot make any judgment on another person's sin then you have told me that
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you cannot discern what is sin well you you are incapable of telling me what is sinful
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women are like i am retarded and then they're like oh so you are retarded and then the women are like
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no no no i didn't say that and he's like you kind of said it i ever listened for another person for
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myself i think i can tell for myself but i don't know like i don't know your whole grand scheme of
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things i think for some people drinking could be a sin for some people it could not i'm just saying
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i don't i'm not here i don't think that i could adequately point at your sins and i stand but this
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is this is a bit of a whataboutism about his drinking i do want to quickly bring it back to
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your point about so uh you're a christian correct i am and so do you think that uh do you think women
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can be uh pastors i what's your denomination by the way are you protestant well i did not know
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they all are no i did not grow up in church i grew up a different religion that's what's your
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denomination i do not have a denomination i you're right you're non-denominational all of you are
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always non-denominational which is fine but so can women be pastors i like i don't know i you know
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but i'm asking because women like the clout of religion but they don't like doing the work of
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religion asking because you objected to his position and biblically it would seem to indicate
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that women can't be pastors from a christian worldview grid one motorsports donated two hundred
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dollars none of the things you have pointed out ladies are sins the chrome you are referencing
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committed fetus deletus which is an actual sin why do you support such a person you ladies
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need to study you're wondering why these entanglements happen these entanglements happen
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because people try to tell me what's what when it comes to this that's fine you can but then you
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should expect an argument and you should expect me to argue in favor of my worldview which arguably
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i can make an argument right now even if i knew nothing else i could tell you that somebody saying
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that me drinking a coca-cola or having a beer is similar to prostitution they're insane
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that that's ludicrous on it well i don't think that anybody here said that and i also well then
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well then why can't i eat a donut i don't think that anybody here ever said that i think that we
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said i can't eat a donut no she i'm gonna tell you what she said she said i can't eat a donut because
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it's polluting the temple there was a pastor who said if you drink if you drink water when you're
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supposed to be worshiping the lord then drinking water could be a sin and i just want to ask you
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andrew like seriously i have a serious question for you like i know that you have problems with
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everyone's going to have a lack of education in the beginning when they find jesus but do you not
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want people to find jesus then why are they calling themselves pastors i'm not calling myself yeah because
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his whole point is that they're doing the wrong thing and they think that the ends justify the means
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um and i would say that is just simply not true simply not true okay
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sir i'm saying i don't know they don't know what the they're talking about
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why would you do that you think that if jesus saw someone who said i i love god and i want to turn away
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from sin he would be like you don't know enough you mean pharisees yeah he did it all the time
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no he did not tell the pharisees they didn't know enough he told them that what they were doing
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was corrupt he told listen i'm telling you right now that there's plenty of people who have false
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ministries who are running around saying they do there's been women on this panel who i've tangled
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with but you're not answering my question my question is directly no you're not yes i am they've
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said directly to me that they have visions from god and that they're prophets of god i've heard that
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they've said it to me so like what do you want me to say to my question is what do you want what do
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you want like if do you want women to be degenerate or do you want them to turn their ways what do you
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want well i'm i'm sorry again i'm going to tell you you can do both it's not a bifurcation it's not a oh
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i i i'm going to use christianity as a shield while i preach a false gospel that's a bifurcation
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you could do both jeremy don't be a prostitute and be a real christian have you looked in the
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mirror blonde tubby girl one pull your jacket up yeah because the thing is men understand that if
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they're in a position with a microphone they are subject to criticism women want the microphone we
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want the fun of the microphone and no criticism it doesn't work like that g2 less makeup the bible
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is ambivalent towards alcohol considering it both a blessing and potential danger from god
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i do need sandy yeah hey jeremy thank you let me let me let me finish this up though okay quick
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point i'm almost done okay yeah so anyway so back to this you can do both but don't tell me
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that just because you turned away from degeneracy 15 years ago and now you have a ministry as a female
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that i'm not allowed to tangle with you theologically because i never was a prostitute
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i don't get to say i was never a prostitute so now i'm above criticism but you're telling me that
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because they have stopped being prostitutes now they're above me criticizing their theology
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that's absurd i don't think you're they're above you criticizing their theology i just think that
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the way that you approach them from an outside standpoint someone watching the podcast
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it comes off hateful it comes off hateful that's just i'm sorry about your emotional state you'd have
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to talk to the thousands of people who it doesn't come off hateful to but rather would prefer to see
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these people confronted because nobody's ever confronted them yeah because again they want
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they want the benefit of preaching without the cost of the criticism that it comes with
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and they get to just basically run around do whatever the hell they want there's never any
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ideological pushback at all so what you're saying but i just want you to let you know that this is
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what i hear what i hear is but they're not prostitutes anymore so isn't that good enough like they stop
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prostituting for five minutes and they want all this praise yet yet interestingly enough where's
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my extra credit for never having been a prostitute i don't get any and yet my theology can still be
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criticized isn't that interesting but theirs can't be because they stopped sucking dick a few years ago
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it's ridiculous i think that you have a fair game to criticize them i think that that's totally fine i've
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never been a prostitute either all i'm saying is that i think for the like health and well-being of
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the world it would be great to be more welcoming to those people that's all i'm saying if you want
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to turn away i think it's a great thing turn away that's all i'm saying yeah that's a great first step
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but that doesn't mean that now all criticism uh gets to fly by night doesn't mean that you get to pull
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a nala and do a oh i'm i'm done with the only fans well that's fantastic but when people say okay but
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where's the compensation to the thousands that you've wronged how are you going to make amends for
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these horrific things that you did which even a court would have an expectation that you paid
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compensation for people you victimized and yet somehow they can use this as a shield from criticism
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whereas those who've never engaged in such horrific activity get no additional credit for never having
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engaged i know gotta move things where's my ministry for never i got offered a million dollars to do a
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sex tape and i didn't you know it's like gotta move things on we have gr gracie ladies of certain
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segment of society predictably make logical decisions primarily based on emotions is the
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world better off if that segment of society chooses its leaders slash laws
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is the world better off if that segment of society chooses right
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certain segment of society predictably predictably make illogical decisions
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based on the motions is the world better off if that segment of society chooses its leaders and laws
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just busy busy sitting over here is that cookie my wife maybe
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get a donut andrew you need a donut well it's horror it's horrifically i'm gonna wash it down with a
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beer too i mean how dare i you sinner cookie and drink w rachel a beer and criticize a prostitute
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they're nice people i i hate it when they come at them and say that they're like these terrible people
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because you know i that's just not been my experience they're both really nice so anyways
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um guys make sure you like the video and subscribe to the channel and let me know um did you think andrew
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was right or wrong in this exchange i do appreciate all of the conversation like the video and i'll see