Pearl - September 17, 2025Charlie Kirk's Death Was An Unimaginable Tragedy But People May Be Trying To Exploit It
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Summary
In this episode, I discuss the tragic passing of conservative christian icon Charley Kirk, and how the death of another conservative Christian icon has impacted many people in a profound way. I also discuss the concept of right and wrong in regards to death, and why I believe there is no right or wrong way to die.
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and there's just a part of me that i just get this sick feeling in my stomach
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like this is a little bit off and wrong and the reason i'm going to preface this
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when i do today's show is because i do think i'm going to get some sort of backlash and
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heat for the topic i picked today uh because i think it does seem a little bit insensitive with
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what's maybe going on um but i do think this is something that's going through a lot of people's
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minds and i really just wanted to bring together a platform where we can have a conversation about it
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so if you're not willing to listen i guess to a conversation that may be a little bit offensive
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i would just tune out now it might be you know towing the lines on what's acceptable and what's
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unacceptable you know this is my four this is my trigger warning not to say this definitely isn't
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the most controversial show i've done um but i do want to explore i guess a certain concept and idea
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and a conversation that i've seen circulating on x so as you guys know charlie kirk passed away last
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week um this was a conservative christian i would say moderate and this is a guy and i think it was
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especially scary for um youtubers and really america because charlie kirk really is not the most
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controversial i mean i said far worse things than charlie kirk said in his career and again i've said
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this on previous shows but i think a lot of americans saw like when i hear charlie kirk talk i think of the
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men i grew up around i really do i mean a lot of them had the conservative christian values a lot of them
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believed a lot of the things he believed he's kind of a normal looking white guy you know i grew up
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around normal looking white guys so you know to see him go i think that's why it's had such like a
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profound impact is because a lot of especially conservative christian america you identified
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with charlie kirk maybe not you didn't see him you in him but you knew somebody that
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that reminded you of him like he he reminds me a little bit of one of my cousins they kind of have
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the same vibe you know the dorky the dorky hard-working super positive guy um
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so since he is passing i think americans have gone through a lot of emotions not just americans but
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i think youtubers have gone through a lot of emotions and it's been i think his friends his family
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has gone through a lot of emotions and i think a lot of these a lot of these people i mean they're
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hurt they're sad they're devastated they're scared you know they they don't feel safe um but i couldn't
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help when i saw charlie kirk's wife um erica kirk and again i will say i say this with no hatred in my
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heart i say this really more as an observation not a judgment because i personally if i was in her
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shoes i can't imagine how i would react but i have just gotten such a weird and i hate to say this
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because it sounds like i'm five years old but an icky feeling from the way that turning point and
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conservatives in general have it see it appears to me as a normal person used the death to raise money
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build their brand and for clout and i can't help but think that it seems a little bit disrespectful
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now i'd like to say this is not me judging them this is not me saying oh i'm holier than thou i'm better
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than you i do not know if i knew him personally how i would react i don't know if i knew him
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personally if i'd be angry i don't know if i'd crash out i i don't know i can't say i i met him once at an
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event like years ago um and i i would say i took issues with some of his stances so i'm not going to
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come at this from a place of saying i knew him super well i know how i would do it but
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this made me think of the concept in general is there a right and a wrong way to more now i want
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to talk about a situation that i personally was in that's not that doesn't necessarily have anything
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to do with this topic so uh my grandpa died a few years ago so it was about i don't know maybe
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it feels like forever between five and ten years ago i'll say and i remember on his deathbed like he
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my grandpa he basically died of old age right um and i really wasn't that close with him but when he
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was dying i went to go see him and it was just a weird i guess feeling when i went there and i remember
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some relatives of mine were wanting me to take a picture with him and a lot of people were taking
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pictures and i don't know i you know i just went with it because again death is such a sensitive topic
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you never i mean i thought about this show for like two days i gotta be honest and i i think i just
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have this thing inside of me where i just i have to be the one to say it and i think it's something
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at times i wish i could change i wish was different but it's just how i am it's kind of how i've always
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been i'm just that girl that just says things you know um and at the time at the time you know
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i just i remember smiling for this picture and going along with it and just feeling like weird
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and thinking is this disrespectful to my grandpa who's literally dying that we're just like taking
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a picture and and to be honest i felt this in a number of scenarios not just this situation in
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itself so another example is i think it's um i cannot think of the celebrity's name off the top
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of my head but there's a celebrity um and i know that he was a really successful guy and at one point
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i i know he was like the jackie chan of something i i don't know what i i know this is as a commentator
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i should have this name off the top of my head but sometimes you know i take else but this guy i i know
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his family is making a a hulu series or some sort of series about this guy's cognitive decline because
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he's no longer the great guy he used to be i'm sure someone in the chat will know who i'm talking
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about because this was pretty recent and there was still just a part of me that you know one part of
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you thinks to the women it's generally women that tend to i don't want to say use death for clout
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but if i had to use a word to describe it that's really what i you know what i would have to use
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to say right and there's just a part of me that i just get this sick feeling in my stomach like this
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is a little bit off and wrong but again you don't want to be that's why i had to give this i guess this
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forewarning that this is a i i think i feel like i'm having a controversial thought that's how i feel
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talking about this like but i just have to i can't it's just in me i have this fire i have this like
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there's just a part of you that thinks oof i don't know if this is respectful
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now charlie kirk is a little bit different to be fair i mean charlie kirk on the other hand he had
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a mission so he had a mission to spread conservative values to the youth he had a mission
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he had a mission to raise a bunch of money for conservative causes so i guess it's not exactly
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surprising that even his death they're doing that but still there's a part of me that i just get
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this this icky feeling now i tweeted this the other day
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and i'm going to show you the the video that really i guess inspired this tweet
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um i said i have no hatred in my heart when i say this but watching erica kirk post charlie
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kirk's dead body on social media as well as the marketing campaign after just gives me a weird feeling
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now i want to go through some of the responses people have because i do think these are fair
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responses and i don't i don't necessarily have a feeling one way or the other i don't think this
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is a right or a wrong conversation but it is a conversation i'm really just interested in getting
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the public's opinion on and seeing what people have to say we're going to do a call in later this show
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because i just have to you know ask the question now i'd like to say i am not accusing erica kirk of
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of of doing this when i say this but i'm going to say women in general our strategy generally is to
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get as much attention as possible because that brings in male suitors either directly or indirectly
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you know that's why i i give a lot of pushback when women use their relationship to build their
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brand because you're bringing attention to the relationship becomes marketing for the next
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relationship i am not accusing her i do not think that that is what she is doing from what i have seen
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however it's still again it just gives me a weird feeling so i want to give some of the you know we
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had luffy in the chat um saying hypergamy doesn't care we had reclaim your throne saying exact exactly why is
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it controversial to say this so there are some people that do agree with me and i do feel and
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hear that sentiment on x you know people are kind of saying is this a respectful thing to do is this a
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bad way to honor the dead and i don't have your comments on guys because i have to give these thoughts
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without i'm going to read your if you're in the chat giving supers or whatever i will read it but i just
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knew if i gave this monologue and you guys started crashing out it would it would make me feel like a bad
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person so i'm just gonna have to go through it and then uh and then i'll i'll get your feedback
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now um i think i'm wondering if this is my cousin i think this might be my cousin but i'm not sure
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bacon i think that's my cousin he said um people are motivated like never before in two months no
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one will care or will donate if you want charlie's legacy to be funded for decades you do it now three
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months from now maybe you got a year does it suck yes does it feel icky sure but it's human nature sales
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101 i don't know i just i want to make a joke about a certain group of people it feels a bit
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but i can't say it but the groipers will get it the groipers will get it so
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okay so as i tell my students and some people are saying pearl what are you 12 you know sometimes i act
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like it i i hate to keep saying i'm a woman but you know what i mean it's kind of like when the men
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stare at the boobs and people are like why are you staring at the boobs and and then you're like
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well he's a man that's kind of how i feel when you know we say that female nature applies to me too
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obviously duh sorry um all right who doesn't have the language for internal chaos come on describe what
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you are feeling or if you have thoughts precisely state them okay i think that's fair i think deep down
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in my psyche i feel as though this is disrespectful to make money clout farm off of the dead maybe it's
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hypocritical me saying this as i make this a show topic but i feel guilty saying that because it's such
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a sad situation maybe that's the best way i could put it um if you think she's in control of the
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marketing campaign i don't know if she's in control probably not right um that man lived in the public
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eye uh better that they control the outflow of photos and then it's a better narrative than letting
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then i get the same you can't be more jealous of her that's usually what i get from the women
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it's always valid concern valid point you're jealous
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that i i don't even want to this situation is sad i don't think it's really a you know
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um people don't understand how some female presidents from different countries used to
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rise to power after their husband dies um this is the same scenario matthew says i totally agree
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but i doubt she's the one running her own socials right now okay um then someone else said we need a
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movement to change things in particular worrying about who's benefiting won't help the situation
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you are clairvoyant and extremely helpful in doing what you do please don't turn into ann coulter
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so i mean that's really the sentiment the few the sentiments i've gotten is some people think
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it's justified because he had a movement i think that's a fair argument
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some people think um it is too far i don't know i just i saw this are we able to share my screen
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yeah okay so it says this is just sad this is the video that kind of gave me
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oh i love you i love you i love you i know i love you i love you
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and look at on its surface that's a heartbreaking video
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i just get this weird feeling when i see this stuff
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it just it seems a little bit performative and almost
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here it says erica kirk i refuse to let the movement charlie built die it will only grow
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the cries of a widow will echo around the world like a battle cry
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um the evildoers who took charlie's cut life they have no idea what they have done if they thought
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my husband's mission was powerful before they have no idea what they have just unleashed
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not across the country but in me charlie will always say never surrender
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this is a sad situation and we're asking for donations
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i feel guilty that i'm having this thought because of how sad the situation is
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and you know the women when i when i said and by the way i i'm really not passing a judgment um
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who's to say how you know the right way to react but you know i've seen the same situation in my
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where it does women tend to make it a social media campaign
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so while i'm going to use this as an example today
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this is not the only example that i can think of and the women they're mad at me they say sit this one
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out uh reclaim says this is worse than posting a gofundme
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uh luffy says she will take a lover to your funeral leonarda and i'm gonna send her the link we'll see if she calls in
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um i guess this is how house of cards ended i've never seen house of cards so i don't know
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lee or she's called into the show says it's too soon didn't didn't he have a protege or an apprentice
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he was training for a reality such as this the reality oh is she liked him because he was famous
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and he liked her because she was a hot blonde there's no surprise here i didn't say that i'm