Pearl - May 09, 2024


Has Christianity has been infiltrated | THE SITDOWN | @MohammedHijab


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10 minutes

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1,919

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95

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In this episode, we discuss the difference between Christianity and Islam, and how they differ from the Bible and the Quran. We also discuss the concept of God, and whether or not there are three separate and equal gods.

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00:00:00.000 So you think in Rome, they invented that he was God?
00:00:05.680 So in the beginning, what happened is that Christianity was a persecuted
00:00:08.160 religion in Rome, right?
00:00:09.360 So the Roman Empire is where Christianity was.
00:00:12.560 And in the beginning, they were persecuted minority.
00:00:14.720 They were being persecuted by all kinds of people, right?
00:00:17.760 Up until the third or the fourth century, you had this guy called Constantine.
00:00:22.320 Okay.
00:00:22.600 He was the emperor at the time.
00:00:24.360 He had a dream.
00:00:25.360 Okay.
00:00:25.680 He had a dream of the cross and all that kind of thing.
00:00:27.320 And he became a Christian.
00:00:28.560 Okay.
00:00:29.240 even though Christianity had been a minority religion
00:00:32.240 and they were a persecuted minority for a very long time.
00:00:36.680 When he became a Christian in 313,
00:00:40.880 there was something called the Edict of Milan and in 325,
00:00:42.880 there's something called the Nicene Creed.
00:00:44.580 They started to formulate what is the belief of the Christians.
00:00:48.100 325, they said it was, you know, you have the Father,
00:00:50.400 the Son and the Holy Spirit, this idea of the Father, the Son,
00:00:52.400 the Holy Spirit came out.
00:00:53.300 Oh, and then you guys, you guys had the same text
00:00:56.440 and it didn't change, right?
00:00:57.940 we believe i think i've heard snico say that right yeah so the quran look so to finish the
00:01:04.180 story on this right we believe that christianity had been interpolated had been people
00:01:27.940 What happened is Islam is a continuation from Christianity, from Jesus Christ.
00:01:57.940 we believe Muhammad who is the we believe the final prophet he was sent in Arabia and he went
00:02:05.640 when he was 40 to the cave and the angel had an interaction with him and he had revealed the Quran
00:02:11.320 to him the Quran we believe is the verbatim speech of God and in that verbatim speech of God you know
00:02:17.660 there are prohibitions there are allowances what to do what not to do etc etc etc we also believe
00:02:24.720 that this text and there's good evidence to show that it's been
00:02:27.280 preserved for the whole time. Nothing has been changed of it.
00:02:30.120 Unlike the Bible.
00:02:31.920 And if I asked, if I asked the Christians, would they agree with
00:02:35.680 that, that the Quran hasn't been changed? Or would they say,
00:02:39.240 because often what I find is both groups say the other is lying.
00:02:43.240 Very much.
00:02:44.000 Well, it depends on what Christian you ask. If you, if you ask a
00:02:45.960 fair minded Christian, who's a scholar and academic, they may say,
00:02:49.200 yes, we agree with the Muslim notion that the Quran has not
00:02:52.400 been changed. But if you ask a polemic or an apologist for Christianity, he'll say,
00:02:57.120 no, the Quran has been changed just like the Bible. But they wouldn't deny that the
00:02:59.980 Bible has been changed. So there are, for example, great scholars of Christianity
00:03:03.400 like Bruce Metzger, who's come out and wrote a book about how the Bible has been
00:03:07.080 changed. So that's one thing. The other thing is, so we've got the idea of God.
00:03:12.260 And you've got to ask yourself an honest question, which one makes more sense?
00:03:16.220 Let me ask you, in fact, which one makes more sense? The idea of three persons,
00:03:19.340 co-equal co-eternal or the idea of one God if we're being honest about this one
00:03:25.900 God or three persons well I guess the way they taught it to me was that it's
00:03:31.100 like it they're gonna roast me cuz I know I'm not gonna explain it right but
00:03:37.460 but it's like it's like three in one so yeah sure it's still one God but it's
00:03:42.320 just like there's it's like three in one yeah I know but you've got the father
00:03:46.400 You've got the Son and you've got the Holy Spirit.
00:03:48.400 The Father is God.
00:03:49.400 The Son is God.
00:03:50.400 The Holy Spirit is God.
00:03:51.400 But how many gods are there?
00:03:52.400 One.
00:03:53.400 I would say one.
00:03:54.400 But does that make sense to you?
00:03:56.400 Kinda.
00:03:57.400 Kinda.
00:03:58.400 So if I had a fourth and said no, and also the disciples, for example, when do I stop?
00:04:03.400 I could see how it would be confusing.
00:04:05.400 Very confusing.
00:04:06.400 You see what I mean?
00:04:07.400 So when you, for example, if you're, if you're very sad, if you're, if you're in a traumatic
00:04:11.400 situation or if you're desperate, who would you call out to?
00:04:16.400 God.
00:04:17.400 Which one?
00:04:18.400 I mean, you call out to the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit or all three at the same time?
00:04:22.400 I would just say God.
00:04:23.400 Exactly.
00:04:24.400 Yeah.
00:04:25.400 And that's what we would say.
00:04:26.400 There are verses in the Quran that say that when the people are in the sea and they're
00:04:30.400 about to be capsized and so on, they will call out to God in earnestness and sincerity.
00:04:36.400 But when they come back to the shore, then you'll see them ascribing partners with God.
00:04:43.400 See, God doesn't want you to ascribe partners with him.
00:04:45.960 It's in the first 10 commandments, right?
00:04:47.960 God wants you to just worship him alone.
00:04:50.600 You see, that's what Jews have said all over the time.
00:04:52.920 That's what, you know, in the first 10 commandments, you'll find in the Old
00:04:56.160 Testament, et cetera.
00:04:57.760 So that's the first thing I'll leave it with you.
00:04:59.480 I mean, this seems to be the first question, because that's one of the major
00:05:02.480 differences between Islam and Christianity, the idea of God.
00:05:05.320 That is one of the major.
00:05:06.440 The second major difference is the prophethood of Prophet Muhammad.
00:05:09.440 So is he a true prophet or not?
00:05:11.520 That's the question, because if he's a true prophet,
00:05:13.160 then clearly what he's saying comes from God.
00:05:17.280 If he's not a true prophet, then it's not.
00:05:19.000 Then it's just a man-made text, a man from the 7th century, etc.
00:05:22.600 But if we owe it to ourselves to explore the issue.
00:05:26.500 So for example, we would find that the Prophet Muhammad had a pure track record.
00:05:31.380 No one considered him to be a liar.
00:05:33.720 No one considered him in his community to be a liar at all.
00:05:36.980 They all knew him very well.
00:05:38.660 He came when he was 40 years old after living a full life amongst them
00:05:41.720 and told them that he was a prophet.
00:05:44.960 And he didn't just say that frivolously.
00:05:47.320 He provided evidences.
00:05:49.820 So the kind of evidences that we have as Muslims, for example,
00:05:54.060 is, number one, the preservation, yes,
00:05:55.900 the fact that the Quran does not have any contradictions in it.
00:05:58.200 That's an important thing.
00:06:00.100 The theology, of course, of Islam,
00:06:01.800 but also there are a range of other things.
00:06:04.200 For example, the predictions of Islam.
00:06:06.740 So Islam makes a series of predictions about the future,
00:06:09.760 about how life will be in the future.
00:06:10.820 Let me give you ones that are pertinent to your work.
00:06:14.660 There are predictions in Islam that say that women are going to join the workforce with men.
00:06:20.940 Oh, no way.
00:06:21.520 Yeah.
00:06:22.000 In the future, there's a woman will join the workforce with men.
00:06:26.480 This is one prediction.
00:06:27.820 Another thing you've spoken about, which is mentioned in the prediction of that prophet,
00:06:31.020 is that there will come a time where people will engage in promiscuity,
00:06:36.400 sexual intercourse outside of the marital structure,
00:06:38.400 to such an extent where sexually transmitted,
00:06:41.220 there'll be an advent of sexually transmitted diseases.
00:06:45.360 So sexually STDs will come about as a result of this degenerative behavior
00:06:51.280 that people in the future are going to do.
00:06:53.400 So I guess my question, because, you know, I'm a believer of people are people.
00:07:00.620 And so it would be, I would be very shocked if at no point in history,
00:07:06.080 there was like like didn't king david have like 300 wives or something in the bible yeah yeah like
00:07:11.280 people were like to me that's not a god like i mean it might be true i'm not trying to be like
00:07:18.240 disrespectful but it's like i wouldn't put that as a god-like prediction sure one or two of them
00:07:26.720 wouldn't be but if i had 50 of the same kind of precision and sophistication what's the best one
00:07:32.000 give me like that i'll give you three or four good ones okay so for example in the quran is mentioned
00:07:36.960 in chapter 30 verses one to four that the romans had been defeated and remember we said that the
00:07:41.760 roman empire and the persian empire they had been kind of going at it yeah there were two major
00:07:46.560 empires even at the time of the prophet and that in three to nine years that they will win and they
00:07:52.880 will and they will win in a nearby low land okay now this prediction has been has materialized now
00:08:01.120 you're a volleyball player for example yeah if i said i don't know whatever team you play for right
00:08:06.640 i say look hurley's team is going to win and they're going to win five nil and they're going
00:08:12.240 to win at this time in this place yeah i mean that's a pretty good prediction i'm getting this
00:08:16.000 from god if it if the opposite happens or if you don't win if there's a draw or if this whatever it
00:08:21.520 is um then it completely discredits what i'm saying so would the christians come in so if i
00:08:29.120 said, hey, Christians, there's 50 things that Prophet Muhammad said, am I allowed to say his
00:08:37.040 name? I don't know. I don't know. I know there's some like. Yeah, we believe that's in the Quran
00:08:41.360 though. So we believe the Quran, remember, is from God. Okay. Let's mention the Quran and the
00:08:45.040 Hadith. Okay. Yeah. Well, so if I said that to the Christians, would they say, yes, you're right.
00:08:50.160 All the predictions were correct. They couldn't deny this one. And I have actually presented this
00:08:55.200 to uh oh really so even the christians would agree with you they'd have to okay on this issue i don't
00:09:01.120 think there's any controversy whatsoever because it just happened and there is there's corroborating
00:09:06.160 evidence outside of the quran and sunnah there's roman primary source historical information about
00:09:11.120 this okay do you know what i mean so that's one thing there's a there's a book that was written
00:09:15.280 by a friend of mine called the forbidden prophecies by abu zakariya his name is abu zakariya and he
00:09:20.000 lists a lot of these predictions a lot of them a lot of them is where islam will spread what
00:09:24.320 countries it will spread to like Egypt like for example Yemen and Jordan and present-day Palestine
00:09:31.600 etc like a lot of the countries that we know that Islam has spread to a lot of them have to do with
00:09:36.720 the economy economy for example one of them is that that interests will overwhelm the economic
00:09:43.520 system so that you will not be able to get away from it whatsoever and a lot of it is to do with
00:09:49.360 the infrastructure. For example, one of the famous one is that the barefooted Arab,
00:09:55.520 the barefooted Arabs will compete to raise tall buildings. We know now the tallest building in
00:10:01.120 the world is in Dubai, in Burj Khalifa, right? The third most tall building in the world is Mecca,
00:10:07.520 it's the clock tower. You know, so they're competing with each other now to exactly that.
00:10:12.400 Someone could say it was a self fulfilling prophecy. But it couldn't be a self fulfilling
00:10:15.520 prophecy if the economic situation wasn't there if they didn't have money to do that
00:10:21.520 you needed to have a certain amount of gdp to do that