Pearl - Jesse Lee Peterson Joins The Sitdown： New Black Fatigue and Old Jim Crow

00:00:00.000 I am your host, Pearl, and today I'm on the Audacity Network.

00:00:08.000 What up, guys?

00:00:09.340 Welcome to another episode of The Sit Down.

00:00:12.260 Today I have a special guest, Jesse Lee Peterson.

00:00:16.040 He unites the races with truth instead of dividing them with lies.

00:00:19.940 He is 30 years on the radio, and he is the founder of Bond,

00:00:24.440 the author of From Rage to Responsibility.

00:00:26.880 Welcome to the show, Jesse.

00:00:27.940 Thank you. It's amazing to be here.

00:00:30.140 Really? Thank you.

00:00:31.620 What do you think of Dallas so far?

00:00:35.240 I lived in Dallas for six months.

00:00:37.700 Okay.

00:00:38.800 In my 20s, I moved here because I was going to Bell and Howard Electronic School.

00:00:45.280 And so I ended up living in South Eau Claire for a while

00:00:48.900 because I didn't know where I was going.

00:00:51.380 And it was like the hood because it was a project.

00:00:55.960 And then I ended up moving to North Dallas.

00:00:59.200 But Dallas, I didn't agree with Dallas for some reason.

00:01:02.540 I was sick a lot here.

00:01:04.300 I think the weather was something.

00:01:06.340 Yeah.

00:01:06.780 It's pretty hot.

00:01:07.980 Yeah.

00:01:08.400 So the weather was interesting.

00:01:09.580 But I like Dallas.

00:01:11.300 It's just that I couldn't live here.

00:01:12.980 So I went back to L.A.

00:01:13.940 In the summer, it's kind of miserable.

00:01:15.880 Yeah.

00:01:16.040 But it's nice this time of year.

00:01:17.760 Right.

00:01:18.120 When it gets hot here, it goes through you.

00:01:23.080 It's like really hot.

00:01:24.500 If you don't mind me asking, what year were you born?

00:01:28.980 Let me see.

00:01:29.760 What year was Jesus born?

00:01:35.060 No, I was just wondering.

00:01:36.400 Well, I was born in 1949.

00:01:37.780 49.

00:01:38.420 Okay.

00:01:38.780 So you've kind of watched like the downfall of society.

00:01:42.560 I never imagined for a second that the downfall, as you said, could be this bad or even happen

00:01:51.720 like this in my country.

00:01:54.340 Because when you were.

00:01:54.920 It didn't seem like it was possible.

00:01:56.500 Because when you were a teenager, it would have been like what?

00:01:58.640 The 60s then?

00:01:59.760 The 70s?

00:02:00.280 Yeah.

00:02:00.480 So wasn't that like the free love like time, you know, like the hippies and stuff?

00:02:06.160 Yeah.

00:02:06.600 But was that not that bad or that prevalent?

00:02:10.140 Well, I grew up in Alabama on a plantation, so it wasn't, that wasn't happening down there.

00:02:16.320 Okay.

00:02:16.700 It seemed to be the free love thing was more, I guess, I'm in New York somewhere.

00:02:21.740 Okay.

00:02:22.260 It wasn't in Alabama, not the part I live there.

00:02:25.540 Okay.

00:02:25.720 So it was kind of like a city thing.

00:02:27.380 Right.

00:02:27.700 And then the country was really different.

00:02:29.840 Right.

00:02:30.480 Yeah.

00:02:30.840 Yeah.

00:02:31.200 And the country, it was more family.

00:02:34.520 You kind of work, you did your own thing.

00:02:38.140 And even though there was a Jim Crow law, it didn't affect living at all.

00:02:45.660 We just did our own thing.

00:02:47.860 Okay.

00:02:48.460 And that was like.

00:02:49.260 And then there was like a respect for one another.

00:02:52.020 We would disagree, but there was like a respect for one another, blacks and whites, that's not

00:02:58.920 there now at all.

00:02:59.760 And so you're saying race relations were better under Jim Crow.

00:03:03.600 Yes.

00:03:04.220 Really?

00:03:04.860 When I, excuse me.

00:03:07.140 When I become president, I'm going to bring back Jim Crow.

00:03:10.380 There goes my career.

00:03:16.580 Sorry.

00:03:19.180 Because the races, they got along better under the Jim Crow than they do now.

00:03:26.180 Okay.

00:03:26.500 It seems as though integration, it doesn't work.

00:03:31.620 Yeah.

00:03:32.440 And I realized the reason for that is that you can't make somebody love you.

00:03:37.400 And integration was a forced thing rather than allowing people to come together on their

00:03:44.020 own with whomever they want to come together with.

00:03:46.200 It just unites together.

00:03:47.760 Right.

00:03:48.420 But they forced it and it's just out of control now.

00:03:52.260 That seems to be most relationships nowadays.

00:03:54.800 Yeah.

00:03:54.940 It's like very forced.

00:03:56.180 It is forced.

00:03:56.960 Yeah.

00:03:57.180 And it doesn't work when it's forced.

00:03:59.180 If it doesn't happen naturally and on its own, it's not going to work.

00:04:04.020 I hear you say that a lot, but I don't really understand what it means.

00:04:09.720 Like in a marriage.

00:04:11.900 Yeah.

00:04:12.260 What is that?

00:04:13.660 If the marriage didn't come together, if the dating thing didn't come together on its

00:04:18.160 own, you just out there, you meet someone, you get to know them and you decide, well,

00:04:26.900 this is the right woman for me.

00:04:28.460 And the woman realized, you know, this is the right man for me.

00:04:32.340 It's happening naturally.

00:04:33.300 And no one put it on a front.

00:04:35.140 Yeah.

00:04:35.540 They don't have like showcase personality because everybody has a showcase personality

00:04:40.500 and they use that showcase personality until they get married.

00:04:45.960 Then the real thing comes out.

00:04:51.880 That's so true.

00:04:54.980 When you first meet someone, you're not going to know who you're meeting.

00:04:58.860 Yeah.

00:04:59.200 Because they do, the man and the woman, they put on a showcase personality.

00:05:02.080 But the morning after the night of the marriage, all hell break loose because now you're seeing

00:05:08.700 the real person.

00:05:10.620 And that relationship didn't come together naturally so that you can know who you're

00:05:16.960 marrying, who you're meeting, who you're marrying.

00:05:18.780 And the marriage will happen naturally without you trying to make anything happen.

00:05:26.320 It's abnormal to try to make any kind of relationship happen.

00:05:31.220 It should happen naturally without any work at all.

00:05:34.100 You shouldn't put anything into it.

00:05:35.820 Do you know what?

00:05:36.900 For Gen Z, they're so antisocial, though.

00:05:39.840 Yeah.

00:05:40.060 That I don't really think things happen like naturally the way they used to.

00:05:44.580 Like men don't really approach women anymore.

00:05:46.900 For good reason, right?

00:05:48.000 Women have told them not to.

00:05:49.220 Right.

00:05:49.680 They're afraid to.

00:05:50.520 Yeah.

00:05:51.220 Yeah, they're afraid to.

00:05:52.040 But in those days when I was growing up, I had so many women.

00:05:57.680 I never thought of it.

00:05:58.680 At first, I was afraid of women a little bit because I resented my mother.

00:06:03.200 But after a while, I realized it's just another person.

00:06:06.560 But in my mind, I had, because I made my mother my God, I resented her.

00:06:11.740 So I had women in my mind, they were in a different position.

00:06:16.200 It's like you had to treat them special, you know, in a special way.

00:06:20.420 But when I realized that's not true, I just treat everybody the same.

00:06:24.660 It works better that way.

00:06:25.880 And so this generation, millennials and Zs, they are afraid because, first of all, they

00:06:33.340 resent their mothers.

00:06:34.300 Yeah.

00:06:34.740 And whomever you hate controls you.

00:06:37.280 And so they make the mother their God.

00:06:39.560 So all women are God to men.

00:06:41.480 And they don't know how to really approach them.

00:06:43.580 They don't see them just as another person.

00:06:47.440 And they want sex.

00:06:49.360 You're not supposed to want anything because it'll control you too.

00:06:52.560 And so disease happens really bad because the courts are on the side of the woman.

00:06:59.400 She can cry and just lie.

00:07:01.520 Because you know when she's crying, she's lying, right?

00:07:04.740 Yeah.

00:07:05.620 Yeah, I know.

00:07:07.700 And she should easily cry and accuse the man and the court believe it.

00:07:12.620 Yeah.

00:07:12.980 And he loses everything.

00:07:14.600 So how do men not fear women when they have that kind of power?

00:07:17.740 They got to drop the anger.

00:07:22.720 They got to drop the anger for their mothers.

00:07:25.240 And when you drop anger, you have no anger at all.

00:07:28.520 You have no fear.

00:07:30.340 And so you don't think about what if.

00:07:33.760 What if.

00:07:34.160 Yeah, like what.

00:07:34.820 Because that's kind of, that's what you said, I think, the last time you came on my show.

00:07:38.740 Yeah.

00:07:38.880 Where you said, like, something about the future and the past.

00:07:42.760 It doesn't exist.

00:07:43.480 And how do you talk about Jim Crow if it didn't exist?

00:07:49.480 We need that back for sure.

00:07:54.880 Do you see that there is no past or future?

00:07:59.100 Or do you still believe it exists?

00:08:01.980 Well, it happened.

00:08:03.980 Like the past, it happened.

00:08:05.820 But there's not like a point indwelling on it, right?

00:08:09.040 But when it happened, it happened then in that moment.

00:08:13.260 And when that moment was done, it exists no more.

00:08:18.060 It's up in the mind.

00:08:19.620 Right.

00:08:20.160 If the thought, if you were not into your thoughts, it's the thoughts that bring back the illusion of a past.

00:08:26.600 And you believe your thoughts are your own.

00:08:28.660 So you react because you believe that what you're thinking are your own thoughts and you'll react.

00:08:34.140 So you keep reliving an illusion of the past.

00:08:38.340 But it really doesn't, it's nowhere.

00:08:40.300 There's nowhere for it.

00:08:41.800 It's up in the mind.

00:08:44.380 But then how do you talk about Jim Crow?

00:08:46.800 Because I remember Jim Crow.

00:08:49.360 But if it doesn't exist, sorry.

00:08:51.300 Jim Crow does not exist now.

00:08:54.140 Right, it doesn't.

00:08:55.140 Right.

00:08:55.440 So in order for me to bring Jim Crow back, I have to reinvent it.

00:09:00.240 Okay, so you want to run for president.

00:09:02.020 Establish it.

00:09:02.520 And you want to run for president and bring it back.

00:09:04.420 Yes.

00:09:05.240 At this rate, people might rally for that.

00:09:09.720 I know.

00:09:10.880 Yeah.

00:09:11.620 What do you think about the new trend of black fatigue?

00:09:15.200 Have you seen that online?

00:09:16.440 It's a mess.

00:09:17.500 Yeah.

00:09:17.980 Really.

00:09:18.320 And it's going to get worse because blacks, the blacks have been made to believe that they're victims.

00:09:25.920 Yeah.

00:09:26.140 And they believe that they can just do what they want now, act in a kind of way, say what they want.

00:09:32.160 And you better not criticize them, especially if you're white.

00:09:35.740 Yeah.

00:09:36.260 And so they're out of control now, and especially the women.

00:09:40.060 The women are completely out of control because they have not been guided by the men, including their own fathers.

00:09:46.880 They have not been guided by men at all.

00:09:48.680 And when you leave a woman to herself, she goes out of control.

00:09:52.860 So, yeah, black fatigue is a mess.

00:09:56.380 Yeah.

00:09:57.220 So I've been wanting to tell you this story.

00:10:00.920 So I went to London, and I had a 100% black staff, and I lived in a really black area.

00:10:06.900 Oh, Lord.

00:10:10.180 And I never really thought about race before that.

00:10:13.580 Like, that's what I was going to say when I came on your show, like, three years ago, you're asking me, like, race questions.

00:10:18.660 I just never thought about it.

00:10:19.860 Right.

00:10:20.580 And then I went there, and I had, like, a few of them have this whole campaign that I was a colonizer.

00:10:29.720 Really?

00:10:30.360 Yeah.

00:10:32.700 And I never, I did not see it coming, and it just reminded me of the show.

00:10:36.620 It was, like, actually really, I was so sad at the time because I thought we were friends.

00:10:41.460 No.

00:10:41.980 I know.

00:10:43.080 Nope.

00:10:44.040 And then, yeah.

00:10:45.500 How did you deal with it?

00:10:47.340 Not well at the time.

00:10:49.200 I, like, I was really sad, you know, but because I just had never had any, it was weird because we were, like, talking the last time we saw each other like this.

00:10:59.460 I'm, like, imagine if you left, and then you made, like, an hour video saying, like, oh, Pearl's a colon, like, she's a colonial mindset.

00:11:05.280 Right.

00:11:07.480 What?

00:11:08.100 Right, I know.

00:11:10.480 How did you end up in a, you're so white.

00:11:12.660 I mean, you're a white person.

00:11:14.640 Yeah.

00:11:14.800 Well, I went to London, and where I played volleyball, and then it's kind of like the industry.

00:11:20.280 I'd say there's more, like, black people in media.

00:11:22.540 Oh, okay.

00:11:23.000 And then it was also where I lived in London.

00:11:25.160 Oh, I see.

00:11:25.600 So, it was just, it wasn't something I tried for.

00:11:28.800 It just naturally, like, happened.

00:11:30.620 You know what I mean?

00:11:31.040 You're like, what the?

00:11:32.520 Yeah.

00:11:33.180 And were you afraid?

00:11:35.820 Then, yeah.

00:11:37.020 I bet.

00:11:37.620 Yeah, I was.

00:11:38.960 Because I just, do you know what?

00:11:40.740 I never appreciated living by white people until I didn't live by white people anymore.

00:11:45.120 Yeah.

00:11:45.560 Yeah.

00:11:45.800 So, are you willing to help me, when I become president, are you willing to help me reestablish

00:11:53.280 Jim Crow?

00:11:55.480 Well, how would you enforce that?

00:11:57.700 Like, okay, pitch me on it.

00:12:00.320 What's your plan?

00:12:01.000 I would say to the whites, if you own your own business, you build it, and no government

00:12:09.800 funding, but you build it yourself, you have a right to say no to any customer that you want

00:12:15.680 to say no to.

00:12:16.880 Okay.

00:12:17.420 And no one can force you to allow them into your cafe, or into your apartments, or into

00:12:23.980 anything if you don't want to.

00:12:25.660 Because that's the thing, it's like, white people won't even see race.

00:12:31.500 Like, we're not raised racists.

00:12:34.060 Like, we're really not, but it's like, black people will accuse you of it over and over

00:12:40.500 and over again, and that at some point, you're just like, okay, then why do you keep coming

00:12:45.520 back?

00:12:46.100 That's right.

00:12:46.960 Yeah.

00:12:47.240 I know what you mean, but first, let me ask, so will you help me reestablish Jim Crow?

00:12:53.500 I don't know.

00:12:54.520 We'll start with...

00:12:55.880 So you're allowed to say no to any customer?

00:12:58.420 Any customer you want, no matter the color.

00:13:00.060 Okay, fine.

00:13:00.840 I can agree with that.

00:13:01.840 Fine.

00:13:02.600 So if black people want to come in, you can say no, and they can't sue you, they can't

00:13:08.640 picket your place.

00:13:10.640 Even neighborhoods, if you have a white neighborhood, and you don't want any blacks to live in your

00:13:17.380 neighborhood, you can say no, and come and try to rent.

00:13:20.980 No, I don't rent to blacks.

00:13:22.440 You should be able to say that, because it's your place.

00:13:26.300 Yeah.

00:13:26.800 You have the freedom to live and say and do what you want.

00:13:31.060 Mm-hmm.

00:13:31.620 That's...

00:13:32.260 Okay, yeah.

00:13:33.800 All right.

00:13:34.520 You going to help me?

00:13:36.380 Well, how would I help you?

00:13:38.000 I don't know.

00:13:39.900 I'll vote for you.

00:13:40.900 Right.

00:13:42.180 And then you'll work with my administration to help get rid of those old laws, those so-called

00:13:49.020 discrimination laws, and bring back the free law.

00:13:51.440 You put a woman in charge of something?

00:13:53.080 Well, you need a woman to run the office part.

00:13:55.760 The desk.

00:13:56.220 So I'll get coffee.

00:13:59.300 Right.

00:14:02.400 And when we have the meetings with all the men, you bring the water in and coffee in.

00:14:06.780 You set up the meetings.

00:14:08.580 And the muffins.

00:14:09.400 You made the best muffins.

00:14:11.480 They're going to love your muffins.

00:14:12.660 And so, but I know what you mean.

00:14:15.860 When I went up to Gary, Indiana, I grew up in Alabama, but when I was in 11th grade, well,

00:14:23.820 from the 10th to 11th grade, I went to Gary, Indiana to live.

00:14:28.600 And I went to Edison High School, and it was blacks and whites and everything, but they elected

00:14:37.560 the first black mayor when I was there.

00:14:41.700 So they had the election on a Tuesday, and that very next morning, Wednesday morning,

00:14:50.620 all hell broke out.

00:14:52.660 The blacks were attacking the white kids at school.

00:14:55.880 They would be walking down the hall, and the white kid would have to move out of their way

00:15:02.540 rather than them moving from the white.

00:15:04.900 They would yell, get out of my way.

00:15:07.360 And they were on the school bus.

00:15:09.340 They were attacking the white people.

00:15:10.860 So it was so bad, and I had not seen that kind of violence in black people before.

00:15:16.860 So coming from Alabama, I couldn't handle that.

00:15:20.980 It was too violent for me, because I didn't grow up with that, and I didn't see that at

00:15:25.400 all growing up.

00:15:26.220 And I went to an all-black school and everything.

00:15:28.720 And so I had a white friend when I was there, and he and his family live right across from

00:15:36.840 Edison High School.

00:15:38.200 But we were really close, because I got along better with whites than I did with blacks,

00:15:43.740 because I was afraid of black violence.

00:15:45.720 I had not experienced it.

00:15:46.900 And in about a month or so, his family picked up and just left.

00:15:53.940 I never saw him again, because they moved overnight out of the neighborhood because the blacks are so violent.

00:15:59.400 So when you say white people are not being raised to be racist and all that, I totally understand what you mean.

00:16:08.580 Yeah.

00:16:09.240 They're not talking about the blacks think that the whites are.

00:16:12.440 No.

00:16:12.660 They don't realize it's them and not someone else.

00:16:15.960 No.

00:16:16.440 And that's the problem.

00:16:17.600 So why do you think that is?

00:16:19.140 Because when I was in London, I dealt with all different kinds of black people, like where

00:16:24.760 I lived.

00:16:25.300 So there was people from Africa.

00:16:27.620 There was black Londoners.

00:16:30.700 Right.

00:16:30.880 There was black Americans, because I played volleyball.

00:16:33.260 So there's a lot of them.

00:16:34.480 Oh, OK.

00:16:34.720 Yeah.

00:16:35.100 So it was very like, I could tell you specific differences.

00:16:40.880 But it just seemed, other than the ones from Africa, the mindset was the same, when it comes

00:16:47.560 to racism and that stuff.

00:16:49.680 But you know what's funny?

00:16:51.280 When that whole thing happened, the only ones that said that I wasn't like that were the

00:16:56.560 ones strict from Africa.

00:16:58.620 Yeah.

00:16:58.820 Like, they were like, the one guy was like, my grandma was under colonization.

00:17:05.460 Like, actually, this is not bad.

00:17:09.460 That's right.

00:17:10.340 But even like in London, a lot of like, why is it that even though it's like three thoughts,

00:17:16.500 like so far away, that it's the same victim mindset?

00:17:20.340 Why is that?

00:17:21.020 Because in Africa, the blacks who are in control there, they have the same mindset that the blacks

00:17:29.200 in here have.

00:17:30.260 The ones that are in control, government mentality, the media and all that.

00:17:34.700 Yeah.

00:17:35.160 And they want to maintain that leadership position.

00:17:39.860 And so they have to keep the blacks angry, blaming somebody else for their situation so

00:17:46.940 that the blacks will feel like they need the black leadership to help them in a situation.

00:17:52.700 So they have been taught and brainwashed to believe that the white man is against them.

00:17:58.820 They can't make it because we're racist, which doesn't exist at all.

00:18:02.440 And so they keep that going generation after generation.

00:18:06.380 They brainwashed to people by keeping them angry and frustrated.

00:18:10.640 And when you're angry, you can't see.

00:18:13.720 You don't know you're being in control.

00:18:15.480 Yeah.

00:18:15.900 That's why they make you angry and emotional.

00:18:18.220 You can't, you have to be emotional in order to be controlled.

00:18:23.380 But if you're not emotional, they cannot control you.

00:18:26.880 So they keep the blacks angry in control.

00:18:29.100 The leadership does that.

00:18:30.180 They won't let you get along.

00:18:32.360 They won't let you afraid.

00:18:33.440 They won't let you angry.

00:18:34.260 So they have done that to the blacks for the last 70 years here.

00:18:38.200 And they have done it in Africa, too.

00:18:41.580 That's why I tell the blacks, they need to drop their anger so they can overcome emotions.

00:18:47.360 And when you're not emotional, you cannot.

00:18:49.880 It's impossible to be controlled.

00:18:51.900 And you say that people have to do that by forgiving their mothers.

00:18:54.820 They have to get to know themselves.

00:18:57.660 And they will see that their angers came from their mothers.

00:19:01.900 They become like what they hate.

00:19:03.960 And they have the same mindset that their mothers have, the boys and the girls.

00:19:10.000 They live in their thoughts, believing that they're their own.

00:19:13.220 And their thoughts bring on the emotion.

00:19:15.240 They think that they're the emotion.

00:19:16.700 They're emotion.

00:19:17.280 And they become like what they hate.

00:19:20.900 And if you notice, the guys, all guys have the same attitude that a woman has.

00:19:27.160 So many, yeah.

00:19:27.660 They get angry.

00:19:29.320 They overreact.

00:19:31.140 Instead of being still and pointing the way by being an example.

00:19:35.420 They worry like women.

00:19:36.760 They're just like their mother.

00:19:37.820 And the black men, they get angry just like a woman.

00:19:42.160 They gossip.

00:19:44.660 They're revengeful.

00:19:46.240 They don't point in the way that the men used to do in the good old days when boys were boys and men were men.

00:19:55.720 But they got to overcome their mother.

00:19:57.740 Black men and women got to overcome their mothers.

00:20:00.680 The problem is that it's not white people.

00:20:02.960 Yeah, I found out the craziest stat the other day.

00:20:06.880 You know what percent of the black men have been arrested by 25?

00:20:10.160 How?

00:20:10.700 What?

00:20:11.040 Guess what percent?

00:20:13.400 80.

00:20:14.200 60.

00:20:15.060 Whoa.

00:20:15.600 Isn't that crazy?

00:20:16.140 I did not know it was that high.

00:20:17.420 It's not surprising, though.

00:20:18.420 I didn't know.

00:20:18.920 I didn't think they still arrested the black men nowadays.

00:20:22.260 I thought they only arrested white men.

00:20:25.820 But I did not know it was that high, though.

00:20:27.940 I didn't know it was that high, either.

00:20:29.420 That was according to Grok.

00:20:31.020 Yeah.

00:20:31.460 Yeah.

00:20:32.140 I didn't know it was that high.

00:20:32.960 That's amazing.

00:20:34.320 But they need to know that the problems are not outside of us.

00:20:40.000 They're inside of us.

00:20:41.360 They're not outside at all.

00:20:43.440 And when you get to know yourself, you will see that, wow, I do resent my mother or grandmother.

00:20:48.720 And I do need to forgive.

00:20:50.560 And the moment you see that, everything starts to change about your life.

00:20:54.440 You overcome fear.

00:20:56.680 You don't judge anymore because you understand.

00:21:00.140 And that's the problem.

00:21:01.080 Yeah.

00:21:01.540 Because it doesn't matter if the world's falling apart.

00:21:04.300 Let the world go to hell.

00:21:06.420 Yeah.

00:21:06.840 You know, I tell people all the time, let people go to hell.

00:21:10.640 And let them live in hell.

00:21:12.740 But you are in control of your own world.

00:21:15.120 You are your own world.

00:21:17.140 Isn't that amazing?

00:21:17.780 Yeah.

00:21:18.580 So what's it been like for you watching the downfall of this country?

00:21:21.920 Kind of going back to the original question, because when you were a kid, I'm sure everyone

00:21:26.820 had like, what, five to ten kids around?

00:21:29.440 Yes.

00:21:29.740 And now it's like there's no families.

00:21:31.500 I mean, there's gayborhoods.

00:21:34.540 You know what I mean?

00:21:34.980 Like, there's...

00:21:36.420 My mother has had nine children.

00:21:41.020 Yeah.

00:21:41.420 And I'm the oldest, but nine children.

00:21:43.800 I had an aunt.

00:21:44.840 She and her husband had like 15, 16, maybe 17 children, maybe more.

00:21:50.940 Another aunt, she and her husband had seven or eight kids.

00:21:56.040 There was no such thing as like little family.

00:21:58.060 It was rare.

00:21:58.940 You can't find it, but it was rare.

00:22:01.060 It was big family everywhere.

00:22:02.400 So when I was growing up, I had a whole lot of family, you know, and then around me was

00:22:07.260 other families, right?

00:22:08.800 And to not see that now is weird.

00:22:12.020 You know, family.

00:22:13.500 It's weird to see...

00:22:14.660 I saw a pregnant woman the other day, and I thought, I haven't seen one in forever.

00:22:18.720 Right.

00:22:19.120 Yeah.

00:22:21.680 And so seeing my country change the way it has, at first, when I first started out 35

00:22:28.760 years ago in my work, I thought it was a state of emergency then.

00:22:34.060 I'm like, things are bad.

00:22:35.120 We got to get bond going in my organization.

00:22:37.240 We got to get help.

00:22:38.800 I thought things was going to get better.

00:22:40.500 I had no idea.

00:22:43.360 I had no idea it could get this way.

00:22:46.780 But now I realize that my country is gone and it's not coming back.

00:22:51.080 Do you still think it's the best country on this side of heaven?

00:22:55.040 Even today?

00:22:55.860 No.

00:22:58.240 Okay.

00:23:00.300 And the reason I think...

00:23:02.400 That's a good question, too.

00:23:04.280 The reason is because of the crazy laws they have now.

00:23:09.580 The division between the people, the blacks and the whites and the Mexicans and all that.

00:23:17.840 The people who are running out of a country today are no good.

00:23:21.360 Yeah.

00:23:21.640 I mean, just absolutely about self and not the people.

00:23:26.560 When I moved to L.A., do you know that you can change jobs every day if you want?

00:23:32.640 Because there were so many jobs.

00:23:34.560 And you can just move up the ladder if you want.

00:23:37.540 That's not around anymore.

00:23:38.620 I lived wherever I wanted to live.

00:23:42.920 And that's different now.

00:23:45.240 So it's gone.

00:23:47.500 And the people hate one another more so than any other time in the history of America.

00:23:52.340 That's been the weirdest part for me is just seeing it go from such a high-trust society

00:23:58.440 to so low-trust.

00:23:59.840 Because where I grew up, it was very high-trust.

00:24:02.780 We didn't lock our doors.

00:24:04.300 Right.

00:24:05.000 And maybe it wasn't like that everywhere in America, but specifically...

00:24:08.960 I don't know.

00:24:09.220 I think you had Nick F on.

00:24:11.640 You know Nick Fuentes?

00:24:13.060 Yes.

00:24:13.300 Yeah.

00:24:13.660 We're kind of from the same area.

00:24:15.220 He kind of talks about it, too.

00:24:16.480 Yeah.

00:24:16.720 Where it was a very high-trust pocket of Chicago.

00:24:20.300 Yeah.

00:24:20.620 I can honestly tell you, when we would leave home, we just closed the door.

00:24:24.560 We didn't lock the door.

00:24:25.680 We just closed the door.

00:24:27.240 Nowadays, you have locks and chains and alarm systems and bars around windows.

00:24:34.060 And then you don't really trust the neighbor.

00:24:37.280 I don't even know who my...

00:24:38.320 I know I see some of them sometimes.

00:24:40.480 But we don't really know who the neighbors are anymore because we don't trust them.

00:24:43.900 Like, two doors down from my parents' house, a black family moved in.

00:24:50.300 What now?

00:24:52.000 You know what?

00:24:53.100 I swear I never saw race until they made me see race.

00:24:57.360 Yes.

00:24:58.220 And I never cared.

00:25:00.360 I never looked at it until they made me.

00:25:03.100 And you know what happened?

00:25:04.840 Two doors down, there was literally someone got murdered where I'm from.

00:25:09.860 I mean, they died on the way to the hospital, but it was like a drug deal gone wrong.

00:25:14.020 Wow.

00:25:14.460 Yeah.

00:25:14.840 And they still live there.

00:25:16.880 Now you see why I want Jim Crow back.

00:25:24.040 Because you can say no to the black when they come to the neighborhood.

00:25:27.880 No, I'm not going to rent to you.

00:25:29.340 You know what I think liberals, and mostly women do, they want to control what you see with your eyes.

00:25:34.820 Yes.

00:25:35.360 And so they put studies in front of you.

00:25:37.700 Yeah.

00:25:38.000 And that's why sometimes I hate doing debates in this industry, because it's just people throwing studies at each other instead of, like, believing what they see with their eyes.

00:25:46.480 That's right.

00:25:47.260 I don't care about those studies at all.

00:25:50.200 Yeah.

00:25:50.460 I know what I see.

00:25:51.800 Yeah.

00:25:52.200 I know what I see happening, and you can't make me doubt what I see.

00:25:56.520 Because those studies are just made up to fit whatever need they want to go the way they want it to go.

00:26:02.560 It's not true.

00:26:03.500 Yeah.

00:26:04.260 So you think things are going to get worse?

00:26:06.640 Oh, yeah.

00:26:07.420 Do you think that's going to make the average person, like, listening to this kind of hopeless?

00:26:13.020 I hope it made them go and look within.

00:26:16.440 Yeah.

00:26:16.620 Because for you, as an adult individual, it doesn't have to get worse for you.

00:26:22.140 Yeah.

00:26:22.840 That's what I say.

00:26:24.280 Yeah.

00:26:24.640 Yeah.

00:26:24.940 It could be worse for others around you.

00:26:26.640 That's their world.

00:26:27.440 That's what they want.

00:26:28.580 But if you live from your own world, you could have perfect peace.

00:26:32.520 Because this is hell on earth inside of humans, right?

00:26:35.420 And you could have perfect peace right here on earth, in America, or anywhere else, if you live from within.

00:26:40.980 And you won't be affected, the world cannot touch you if you live in front of within.

00:26:47.520 So it doesn't have to be bad for the individual, but it is going to get worse for the country.

00:26:52.960 What's perfect peace like?

00:26:55.920 Oh, that's an amazing question.

00:26:58.420 Well, no.

00:27:00.220 Perfect peace is not having to think about anything.

00:27:04.540 Perfect peace is having no past and no future.

00:27:07.320 Perfect peace is not judging anyone at all about anything.

00:27:13.520 Never judging anyone.

00:27:15.560 Perfect peace is neither for or against at all.

00:27:21.960 You have no opinion either way.

00:27:23.960 Perfect peace is living from within and having no ideas.

00:27:31.080 Sorry.

00:27:34.560 Having no anger or anything.

00:27:37.320 Don't you have opinions on things, though?

00:27:39.520 No.

00:27:42.020 Why are you here?

00:27:47.320 Why am I here?

00:27:48.560 No, because you're here because of your opinion.

00:27:53.400 But my, what I do.

00:27:55.820 Would you say they're observations, then?

00:27:57.660 Absolutely.

00:27:58.060 Yeah, okay.

00:27:58.500 That's how you.

00:27:59.440 Okay.

00:28:00.080 Because they're not my opinion.

00:28:01.560 I'm looking at what I see, right?

00:28:03.060 And I can see the wrong in it.

00:28:04.700 Yeah.

00:28:05.220 But I also know that it's not the person that's doing it.

00:28:08.840 Something else is working through them.

00:28:10.900 They just don't know that.

00:28:12.260 Something else.

00:28:12.940 I hear you say that a lot.

00:28:14.160 Does that mean you think it's like demons or something?

00:28:16.520 Not that I think.

00:28:17.680 I knew it is.

00:28:18.580 Okay.

00:28:19.180 And so that's, you think thoughts are from demons, right?

00:28:22.020 100%.

00:28:22.420 And it's just like demons in your head.

00:28:25.040 They make a home in your mind.

00:28:26.580 Yeah.

00:28:27.280 And then, and they control you by making you, causing you to become emotional.

00:28:33.720 Yeah.

00:28:34.020 And you, the emotion that you feel, you think is you, you know, the person thinking is them,

00:28:40.380 right?

00:28:40.860 And so they're identified with the emotion and they think they create their own thoughts.

00:28:45.760 But when you ask people, what, do you create your own thoughts?

00:28:49.700 Yes.

00:28:50.920 And so, okay, give me the first three steps of creating your own thoughts.

00:28:56.940 They're like, well, I guess they just come.

00:29:02.040 So if they just come, how are you creating them?

00:29:05.540 Yeah.

00:29:05.880 You know, and people think that they are creating their thoughts, but they're not.

00:29:10.080 And so you're saying it's demons basically that make a home in you.

00:29:14.580 Yes.

00:29:15.080 That come from the moms.

00:29:17.340 Yeah.

00:29:18.260 Because the mothers are evil.

00:29:20.760 All mothers are evil.

00:29:22.780 No, they are.

00:29:23.780 Yeah.

00:29:24.000 They're really evil.

00:29:24.620 It doesn't matter the color.

00:29:26.080 Yeah.

00:29:26.300 It doesn't matter the money they have or don't have, where they live or don't have.

00:29:29.680 Yeah.

00:29:29.940 It's the spirit of the woman.

00:29:31.220 That's why Christ said that all who are born of the mother of the woman of the flesh must

00:29:37.900 be born again of the spirit of the father.

00:29:40.240 And that's because of original sin.

00:29:42.580 Yes.

00:29:42.940 Because Eve, like, do you know what's crazy?

00:29:45.480 In these churches, they'll say like it was Adam's fault.

00:29:49.060 Eve took the apple.

00:29:50.400 They're going to be like, Adam, what did that?

00:29:52.960 I'm like, what did he do?

00:29:54.340 He was just chilling.

00:29:55.200 Right.

00:29:56.520 He wasn't even around.

00:29:58.360 Eve was out at the marketplace.

00:30:00.600 Yeah.

00:30:01.120 And she ran into the sink at the marketplace.

00:30:04.800 And he finally convinced her that she could be her own woman.

00:30:07.960 Yeah.

00:30:08.480 You know, Eve, don't listen to your husband.

00:30:10.260 He's listening to his father.

00:30:12.040 You can be your own woman.

00:30:13.380 You can take off your bra.

00:30:14.960 You can do whatever you want.

00:30:16.500 You can kill the baby if you want it.

00:30:18.280 And she believed him.

00:30:20.900 Yeah.

00:30:21.180 And then Adam eventually believed Eve.

00:30:23.820 And so the woman became a man's God.

00:30:25.860 And that's why men got to forgive their mothers so they can turn to the father.

00:30:30.740 Yeah.

00:30:30.880 Because how can you say you fear God if you fear women?

00:30:33.460 That's right.

00:30:34.080 Like, it's...

00:30:35.080 And see, that's what happens when you drop the anger by forgiving.

00:30:38.300 Yeah.

00:30:39.100 All fear disappear.

00:30:40.800 And in God, there is no fear.

00:30:43.100 Zero.

00:30:43.800 No emotion.

00:30:44.820 God is a dispassionate God.

00:30:47.340 He's not a passionate God.

00:30:49.340 Satan is a passionate God with a small g.

00:30:52.800 And so when you hear people saying, oh, I'm so passionate.

00:30:56.460 I'm just passionate about what I do.

00:30:58.780 Well, they're telling me that they're evil.

00:31:01.480 You know, it's funny.

00:31:02.340 I say that about myself.

00:31:03.560 I see.

00:31:04.560 But I'm a woman, so...

00:31:06.020 Yeah.

00:31:06.980 But you're over...

00:31:08.260 But women can overcome evil, too, by forgiving their mothers and returning to the fathers.

00:31:14.120 And they can overcome evil.

00:31:15.500 They can have a life without being all emotional.

00:31:18.940 They can be logical because they will have the mind of God.

00:31:22.740 Have you ever met one?

00:31:24.480 No.

00:31:28.460 I know it's possible.

00:31:30.820 Are you sure?

00:31:32.200 But I meet women.

00:31:33.720 I meet a whole bunch of women that are working on themselves to overcome that.

00:31:38.100 Absolutely.

00:31:39.080 We have, at my organization, we have the men's forum every first Thursday night of the month.

00:31:43.820 And then the third Thursday night for ladies.

00:31:46.420 And those ladies, seeing what I'm saying, and they do...

00:31:50.500 And all races, too, they do realize that they do resent their mothers.

00:31:54.620 Yeah.

00:31:55.020 And they go and forgive, and everything starts to change for them.

00:31:59.480 And so, is perfect peace something that happens, like, overnight?

00:32:03.500 Or is it more of a gradual process?

00:32:06.580 It can happen overnight if you are not so identified with the false self.

00:32:11.760 But the problem is, people are more...

00:32:15.760 They think that they are their thoughts and their emotions.

00:32:19.080 They think that they are something other than what they are.

00:32:22.680 And they are attached to that.

00:32:24.580 And it's hard for them to let that go.

00:32:27.000 But if they can see it and just let it go, they can have perfect peace instantly.

00:32:31.780 And what is...

00:32:33.540 Is the false self, like, the things you tell yourself about?

00:32:36.780 Like, the demons tell you you are?

00:32:39.900 Is that it?

00:32:40.300 They tell you that you're no good.

00:32:43.080 Yeah.

00:32:43.540 Or they tell you that you are good.

00:32:45.780 They tell you that you're poor.

00:32:47.980 Yeah.

00:32:48.440 And then you identify with the stuff instead of just living in the now.

00:32:52.080 Yes.

00:32:52.520 Because it doesn't really...

00:32:53.420 It doesn't matter if you are bad.

00:32:55.620 Like, you have to move forward, you know?

00:32:57.800 And the point about that, I love that.

00:33:00.640 The point about that, you are not bad.

00:33:02.960 Yeah.

00:33:03.600 Really.

00:33:04.760 There's not one human being who has ever done wrong.

00:33:09.500 It's always been that false self that's working through them that has been doing wrong.

00:33:14.920 Yeah.

00:33:15.360 It was never them.

00:33:16.760 But they thought it was them because the church is telling them they were sinners.

00:33:20.800 You know what's funny?

00:33:22.180 My dad, when I talk to him, that's how he thinks.

00:33:25.560 Like, I'll ask him, like, do you think you're this or that?

00:33:28.320 And he's like, I just don't think about it.

00:33:30.500 That's right.

00:33:31.320 He's like, who cares?

00:33:32.500 That's right.

00:33:33.520 He's right about that.

00:33:34.340 Because to him, he's just like, just focus on fixing the problem.

00:33:36.760 Like, fix whatever.

00:33:37.740 Like, he doesn't...

00:33:39.360 He just naturally, like, that's how he is.

00:33:41.860 Right on.

00:33:42.400 Yeah.

00:33:43.040 Nice.

00:33:43.840 He reminds me of the way, like, Elon Musk thinks.

00:33:46.980 I don't know.

00:33:47.240 It's kind of...

00:33:47.600 It sounds crazy, but I always say...

00:33:49.560 I don't want to give him an Elon one.

00:33:50.200 I always say my dad's smarter...

00:33:52.260 It's going to sound so crazy.

00:33:53.320 I always say my dad's as smart as Trump and Elon Musk.

00:33:56.800 It's just he had 10 kids, so he was busy.

00:33:59.840 I believe that.

00:34:00.700 Absolutely.

00:34:01.480 I totally believe that.

00:34:02.800 Yeah.

00:34:03.240 But you, the real you, have not...

00:34:08.200 You're neither a sinner nor a saint.

00:34:10.760 You're neither right nor wrong.

00:34:13.900 You're neither good nor evil.

00:34:16.800 It's that false self in you, the ego self that's working through you.

00:34:20.340 Yeah, that's the other thing.

00:34:21.980 When people want to be right too bad, they kind of miss what's in front of them.

00:34:25.400 Absolutely.

00:34:26.040 You know what's one thing I think people miss?

00:34:28.560 Why do we keep saying women are nurturing?

00:34:32.240 When we've aborted an eighth of the world population.

00:34:36.380 Aborting babies like natty going on.

00:34:39.080 And they think that women are nurturing.

00:34:41.020 They're not.

00:34:41.580 Well, if they have the kid, they're nurturing.

00:34:44.520 And I'm like, do you have eyes?

00:34:47.220 Like, women are the most likely ones to abuse kids.

00:34:49.860 It's not false.

00:34:50.180 They are the ones who abuse them.

00:34:51.760 Yeah.

00:34:51.960 Really.

00:34:52.380 They are with their emotions.

00:34:54.680 Yeah.

00:34:55.080 They try to force their will on the kids.

00:34:57.080 They want you to be what they want you to be.

00:34:59.620 If you don't, they're going to beat you or punish you in some kind of way.

00:35:04.640 Can you talk more about that?

00:35:07.280 Mothers imposing their will on the children.

00:35:10.900 Mothers have failed in their lives.

00:35:13.180 They didn't do or become what they thought they wanted to become.

00:35:16.100 So they try to live through the children.

00:35:18.440 And so they try to make you go to college.

00:35:20.580 You got to go to college.

00:35:22.060 And you got to take nursing.

00:35:25.120 Or you got to become a doctor.

00:35:26.880 Or you got to become this.

00:35:28.420 And then when you do what they want you to do, they brag about it.

00:35:32.200 And when they're bragging about it, they get an ego gratification as though it's them.

00:35:37.400 And they think that the world is going to see them through the children's eyes.

00:35:41.080 So they're living through the children by making the kids be what they want.

00:35:46.660 Or they spoil you.

00:35:49.020 They give you whatever you want so that you can love them.

00:35:55.640 Or they want to think that you love them.

00:35:57.480 It's not love.

00:35:58.260 But they spoil you in order to control you as well.

00:36:02.060 And now you can't function in life.

00:36:04.220 There are men who are 50 and 60 years old who are still living with mama.

00:36:08.940 Because she spoil them and they're afraid to leave home.

00:36:12.440 They cannot function on their own.

00:36:14.760 And so that's evil.

00:36:15.880 That's what women, some of the examples that they're doing to their children.

00:36:19.120 I think most women have kids for their reputation and not for the kids.

00:36:23.320 Never for the kids.

00:36:23.980 I think I've met one mother in my life that had kids and I thought actually put the kids

00:36:30.000 before herself.

00:36:31.120 Yeah.

00:36:31.240 I think I've met one maybe.

00:36:33.400 I remember when I was growing up, I lived with my grandmother and my grandfather.

00:36:38.820 And they used to tell me, well, you got to work.

00:36:42.240 You got to learn how to take care of yourself.

00:36:43.780 Yeah.

00:36:44.600 And when you're 18 years old, you're out of here.

00:36:51.620 And here I am on a plantation in Alabama.

00:36:54.340 Where am I going?

00:36:55.320 And they were literally telling me, I don't know, and I don't care, but you're out of here.

00:37:07.080 And lo and behold, when I turned 18, I finished high school.

00:37:11.040 I went to Indiana, got me a job, and then moved to California on my own.

00:37:15.800 And I never had to ask them for anything.

00:37:17.820 Yeah.

00:37:18.540 I went to hell from moving from Alabama to California.

00:37:23.160 And a lot of things I didn't know, so I went through hell.

00:37:26.680 But I never thought about going back home.

00:37:29.320 I didn't complain.

00:37:30.820 I just dealt with what I had to deal with because I was taught to be that way.

00:37:34.840 Yeah.

00:37:35.160 And even my grandmother, we all, everybody kind of left Alabama.

00:37:40.100 The kids left when they grew up.

00:37:42.380 And they wanted her to come to Indiana, go to Indiana and live.

00:37:46.300 She's like, no, I don't want to go to Indiana.

00:37:48.260 I'm staying there.

00:37:48.840 I don't want to be a problem to anyone.

00:37:51.560 And then she got, like, really old because in those days you get really old and then you die.

00:37:57.840 And they finally convinced her to come to Indiana, but she could live in her own apartment.

00:38:04.660 That's the only way she agreed to come because she did not want to be a burden,

00:38:09.580 and she didn't want to be involved in somebody else's family.

00:38:13.400 She just left the kids to their own when she became a dog.

00:38:16.020 And I don't see that anymore.

00:38:18.380 The mother want to move with you.

00:38:21.040 She'll hate West Hill, but if you move to West Hill, she'll want to come, too, in order to control you.

00:38:29.420 What a mess.

00:38:30.760 What a mess.

00:38:31.480 Yeah, and it kind of delays growing up.

00:38:35.240 It does.

00:38:36.080 Because you can't really be an adult when you're...

00:38:39.100 You're right.

00:38:40.060 You literally got to, as when she turned 18, 19, but 18 at best, you got to get out there and go through hell.

00:38:48.660 Yeah.

00:38:48.960 You got to deal with issues of life and grow up.

00:38:52.280 And they will make you grow up if you deal with them.

00:38:54.740 And most people don't do that anymore.

00:38:56.400 What do you say when the grandmas get sick and stuff?

00:39:01.740 Put it in an old phone home.

00:39:07.100 What do you think about when mothers say, I gave you everything?

00:39:12.320 Right.

00:39:13.120 And I'm like, okay, but I didn't make you a promise I was going to take care of you.

00:39:17.080 You know what I mean?

00:39:17.920 It was like you were making a...

00:39:19.580 I wasn't making a loan from you.

00:39:21.900 And the mothers do do that.

00:39:23.300 I gave you everything.

00:39:24.200 I gave you life and now you don't want to take care of me.

00:39:27.060 It's not my fault that you didn't take care of yourself growing up.

00:39:30.380 You didn't prepare for old age, right?

00:39:32.380 Yeah.

00:39:32.860 But they make you feel guilty.

00:39:34.520 And that's why they give you everything so they can control you.

00:39:37.820 I gave you everything and now you're not going to take care of me.

00:39:41.200 Even if a man is married or a lady is married, they want to move in with your family and run the family, right?

00:39:49.460 But they make you feel guilty.

00:39:50.720 But if you didn't have guilt, you would just say, no, I'm not going to do it.

00:39:54.660 You can move into an Opal's home.

00:39:58.480 No.

00:39:59.060 And then the mother, like they get into all of your business.

00:40:02.540 All of it.

00:40:02.900 They ruin your reputation.

00:40:04.360 Absolutely.

00:40:04.920 Like, yeah, it never ends.

00:40:06.440 Your mother will destroy you if you don't do it her way.

00:40:11.400 Yeah.

00:40:11.900 She'll build an army against her own kids.

00:40:14.720 Yeah.

00:40:15.000 And it's even worse because they have two personalities.

00:40:17.620 Yeah.

00:40:17.920 Yeah.

00:40:18.340 That's right.

00:40:18.840 And that's because the God above is the man's God and the God below, the small g God, Satan, is the woman's God.

00:40:28.080 How do women react when you say that?

00:40:30.240 Oh, they're like, what the?

00:40:31.420 Oh, you hate women.

00:40:35.040 No, I know.

00:40:35.620 I'm just telling you what the truth is, right?

00:40:37.500 Yeah.

00:40:37.860 So that those that want to overcome that, you can overcome it.

00:40:42.100 You're not stuck.

00:40:43.080 You don't have to stay there with that.

00:40:45.160 But you got to admit that you're evil.

00:40:47.080 And the last thing that a woman can, or what she can do it if she wanted to, women will not, as some are now, they will not admit that they are evil.

00:40:58.460 They are evil and they won't admit it.

00:41:00.400 And it's not them, but it's the spirit of evil that made a home in them because Satan is the woman's God.

00:41:06.400 Why are men so much better?

00:41:08.820 Because the God above is their God.

00:41:11.140 Yeah.

00:41:11.660 And not the God below.

00:41:13.460 It sounds so crazy if someone doesn't understand what we're saying.

00:41:18.440 But to me, it makes perfect sense because everything evil I see is from women pretty much.

00:41:25.160 Like, even the state of the country is kind of women's fault because they gave us more voting power.

00:41:30.560 Absolutely.

00:41:31.700 That's another thing I need you to help me with.

00:41:34.200 When I become president, I'm going to overturn that.

00:41:37.400 Oh, yeah.

00:41:37.760 The repeal of the 19th?

00:41:39.100 Yes.

00:41:40.740 It was a horrible mistake to allow women to vote.

00:41:44.040 Yeah.

00:41:44.580 Because they are so illogical and emotional, they're going to always vote for the wrong people.

00:41:50.800 Always.

00:41:51.080 You know, I think sometimes saying illogical and emotional almost takes the onus off of us.

00:41:57.600 It makes it seem like we don't know what we're doing.

00:42:00.380 I don't think it's that.

00:42:01.220 I think we're just manipulative and selfish.

00:42:06.080 Because it's like we voted in New York for, like, I forgot the guy's name.

00:42:14.980 Mondami.

00:42:15.680 Yeah.

00:42:16.760 Can you believe that?

00:42:17.740 Yeah, he said free buses and grocery stores.

00:42:21.240 And we said, woo!

00:42:22.160 Right.

00:42:22.940 But it's because we're in all this debt.

00:42:26.160 Yeah.

00:42:26.420 And we just keep moving to expensive areas and spending a bunch of money.

00:42:29.880 That's another thing I never, ever, ever, ever in my life imagined that could happen.

00:42:37.300 I never thought that in the United States of America that the voter would vote for socialists

00:42:45.000 or communists or Allah or Abba communists, too.

00:42:49.400 And I'm like, these people hate Christians and Jews.

00:42:52.140 Don't you know what you're doing?

00:42:52.860 But they can't see.

00:42:54.240 And so just say women cannot see.

00:42:57.300 They don't see what they're doing.

00:43:00.080 They will sleep and don't know it.

00:43:01.360 You know, they think what they're doing is right because they live in imagination, but

00:43:05.920 they literally cannot.

00:43:07.780 But in all honesty, not anyone with anger cannot see what they're doing.

00:43:13.180 Anger blinds you.

00:43:14.260 Anger separates you from God.

00:43:16.560 And you cannot see what you're doing.

00:43:19.220 And so the women cannot see it.

00:43:21.540 They really, and they're, really, they can't see it.

00:43:26.280 Because if they can see, they will never vote for a socialist.

00:43:29.340 Yeah.

00:43:30.180 They will never destroy their own children.

00:43:33.040 They will never turn their children away from their fathers if they were able to see.

00:43:37.860 Yeah.

00:43:38.340 Or even abort their own kids.

00:43:39.740 Abort.

00:43:40.260 Yeah.

00:43:40.560 They wouldn't kill the baby in the womb.

00:43:43.280 You know what I mean?

00:43:44.120 Yeah.

00:43:44.580 You're killing the man's children or child in your womb, in your own body.

00:43:50.800 You know they can't see what they're doing.

00:43:52.240 Yeah.

00:43:52.400 They really can't see.

00:43:53.660 Do you understand that they can't see?

00:43:55.240 What do I mean when I say that?

00:43:59.840 I know what you mean.

00:44:00.980 I can't say I fully agree with that.

00:44:02.980 Okay, good.

00:44:03.460 Because I think that women are very manipulative.

00:44:07.360 They are.

00:44:07.760 And women often use, oh, I didn't know I was brainwashed as a get-out-of-jail-free card.

00:44:14.480 Right.

00:44:14.780 So I think a lot of times they do know what they're doing, and they do know what's wrong.

00:44:20.840 And I know a woman that had three abortions, and every single time the dad would have stuck around.

00:44:27.460 Yeah.

00:44:27.900 And I don't think, she just wanted to party instead.

00:44:32.000 I think she knew that.

00:44:32.600 I know women like that, too.

00:44:33.660 I counsel with women like that.

00:44:34.960 Yeah.

00:44:35.340 I counsel with women who have had so many abortions.

00:44:37.380 I counsel with a woman who had her first abortions at 18, and by the time she was 24, she had like three or four of them.

00:44:46.000 But she still couldn't see what she was doing.

00:44:48.680 She thought they were her ideas.

00:44:50.440 How convenient.

00:44:51.680 Right.

00:44:52.300 And I know what you mean when I say, really, because if they could see, there's no way they would kill a child that they have nothing to do with inside the womb.

00:45:01.260 Yeah.

00:45:01.520 You can't do it when you can see what you're doing.

00:45:04.700 It's only when you're angry and blind, but you think you're doing right, and then you make up excuses for it.

00:45:11.860 And so that's what they do.

00:45:13.020 It's like, I didn't know what I was doing.

00:45:14.740 Somebody will brainwash me.

00:45:16.500 And they're right in that.

00:45:17.740 They were brainwashed by the outer source, too, but they were first brainwashed in their mind because they became like their mothers, and they have that anger.

00:45:26.880 What do you think of the pro-life movement?

00:45:30.580 Pro-life are the people who try to save children?

00:45:32.680 Yeah, they protest outside abortion clinics.

00:45:36.240 They are no different than the anti-life people.

00:45:39.400 Really?

00:45:40.000 No different.

00:45:40.820 Okay, go ahead.

00:45:43.180 Because you have two devils fighting.

00:45:47.580 One devil pro-life thinks that they're right, so they're judging the other devil anti-life.

00:45:53.940 They think they're right, and they fight, right?

00:45:55.520 But those same pro-life people would turn against a man in support of the woman, even when they know the woman is wrong.

00:46:04.860 They'll turn against him.

00:46:06.460 Those same pro-life people, they want to lead men in churches and government.

00:46:14.180 And if the man say no, they'll do whatever they could to destroy that man to be in a leadership role.

00:46:23.680 Those same pro-life people, they don't fight for the man to be in a leadership role.

00:46:33.160 They fight for the women to be in a leadership role instead of men.

00:46:36.840 They have the same spirit.

00:46:38.380 They don't love men either.

00:46:40.680 They just have a better, a different title.

00:46:44.080 Yeah, and they always make the speakers the women that made the worst choices ever.

00:46:48.380 Absolutely.

00:46:49.260 I had three abortions, so why are you talking?

00:46:51.520 That's right.

00:46:52.180 What are you up to saying that for?

00:46:54.680 Absolutely.

00:46:55.420 Like, I did it.

00:46:56.360 Do I get a microphone?

00:46:57.440 Right.

00:46:58.060 That's right.

00:46:58.740 You don't see pro-life people fight.

00:47:03.960 For example, they say men should not play in women's sports.

00:47:08.540 You've heard that, right?

00:47:09.640 Oh, I think they should.

00:47:10.660 Yeah, right.

00:47:11.540 Yeah.

00:47:12.040 And so I ask them all the time, especially on the Fall Estate, my TV show, I ask men and

00:47:18.240 women, should men play in women's sports?

00:47:22.880 No.

00:47:23.920 No way.

00:47:24.640 So I ask, why not?

00:47:26.800 Well, because they're bigger, they're stronger, they're faster.

00:47:29.980 I say, yeah, you're right.

00:47:31.720 Should women play in men's sports?

00:47:34.600 Yeah, that's fine.

00:47:36.540 I'm like, why?

00:47:37.920 Why?

00:47:38.380 That's fine.

00:47:39.460 Well, because women need opportunity.

00:47:42.380 Women need to play in men's sports.

00:47:44.320 And so I say, well, the men that, when the women are playing in men's sports, the men are

00:47:50.640 still bigger and stronger and faster.

00:47:53.480 What's the difference?

00:47:54.320 If they can play with, if you don't want them playing in women's sports because of that

00:48:00.560 reason, it doesn't change when a woman's playing in men's sports.

00:48:04.340 But what happens is, most people are afraid to tell women you shouldn't play in men's sports.

00:48:10.560 But they're okay with telling women you can't play in men.

00:48:14.180 I mean, men you can't play in women's sports.

00:48:15.680 I think women, I think men should play in women's sports.

00:48:17.920 Yeah, they could.

00:48:18.780 They should and they should.

00:48:20.780 What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

00:48:25.200 And when I was in London, I played volleyball there.

00:48:27.560 And when I was there, there were trans people in our tournaments and I was complaining and

00:48:35.760 the women yelled at me for complaining.

00:48:37.660 So I said, you know what, for every one woman that comes up and says, this is wrong, there's

00:48:45.940 probably 10 women supporting it.

00:48:48.220 Yeah.

00:48:48.520 So if you guys want to get beat up by men.

00:48:51.560 That's right.

00:48:52.680 Good luck.

00:48:53.420 Absolutely.

00:48:54.300 Absolutely.

00:48:54.680 So what do you think when they say that it's okay for women to play in men's sport, but

00:49:00.360 men shouldn't play in women's sport?

00:49:02.420 Why do you think one is okay to other when they're both the same?

00:49:07.060 Yeah.

00:49:08.400 Men, I have played in men's sports before, just like in, like I've done co-ed tournaments

00:49:15.080 and stuff.

00:49:15.900 Yeah.

00:49:16.340 And the thing is, men can't fully play when you're there.

00:49:22.520 Yeah.

00:49:22.760 And that, like, sometimes they'll make an exception, like they're not, men are nice.

00:49:28.580 So there are times when like I'll play with men, but if they're over a certain athleticism,

00:49:33.000 I won't because I don't want to get hurt and I don't want to ruin the, like, they're very

00:49:38.920 nice for letting you in.

00:49:41.000 Like, does that make, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

00:49:43.700 They can't, yeah, they can't fully do it.

00:49:46.120 Right.

00:49:46.600 So especially at like a professional level, no, no, you should not take a guy's spot on

00:49:51.820 any team.

00:49:52.400 That's right.

00:49:54.220 Occasionally I do do pickups, so I don't know.

00:49:56.560 What a sad way to live.

00:49:57.860 Yeah.

00:49:58.620 That they have to weaken them.

00:49:59.980 And the men are so weak.

00:50:01.220 They will.

00:50:02.040 And it's a lose-lose scenario.

00:50:03.920 Yes.

00:50:04.140 I said, so I kind of messed around and found out with this the other day.

00:50:09.240 I was playing basketball and I set a screen on a guy and I went flying.

00:50:14.360 I was okay though, but I felt kind of bad for him.

00:50:17.320 Because this was just like, this wasn't a team or anything.

00:50:21.400 It was just like, pick up, you know?

00:50:23.760 And I felt bad for him because all the guys were like, oh, you shouldn't have did that.

00:50:28.040 And I told them, I'm like, no, no, no, I'm okay.

00:50:29.740 I'm okay.

00:50:30.260 Like, because I knew it was kind of my fault.

00:50:33.560 I shouldn't have been playing, you know?

00:50:35.140 Right on.

00:50:35.520 And that's what you have to realize.

00:50:37.120 If you're going to play with them, like, it's really nice of them to let you, like, be there.

00:50:41.900 And really, over a certain athleticism, you're going to get hurt.

00:50:44.780 Yeah.

00:50:45.040 Like, I would not recommend that.

00:50:45.940 Amazing.

00:50:46.600 Yeah.

00:50:47.160 So, like, when you went and forgave your mother, did she start seeing things a little clearer?

00:50:52.220 Or did she see that before that?

00:50:55.340 Yeah, I saw some things clearer.

00:50:58.280 I don't know if I had this, like, super change in my personality.

00:51:02.700 I know you said, like, you get perfect peace.

00:51:04.600 I still get, things still annoy me.

00:51:06.660 So, I don't know.

00:51:07.960 I don't know.

00:51:10.700 Like, I don't know.

00:51:11.520 The way you described it was, like, you'll feel completely different.

00:51:14.980 You would.

00:51:15.720 I don't know if I had that.

00:51:17.980 I know.

00:51:18.240 But I did feel, like, a weight lifted off my shoulders.

00:51:20.940 Yes.

00:51:21.260 So, I did have, like, a, like, I felt better, but things still annoy me.

00:51:27.680 You know, I wouldn't say I have no anger.

00:51:29.580 If you stop thinking, you could not be annoyed anymore.

00:51:33.380 Really?

00:51:33.600 But you got to stop thinking.

00:51:35.320 Why don't you stop thinking?

00:51:37.020 It's tough.

00:51:37.880 You know, I just, I start thinking.

00:51:44.180 What would happen if you stopped thinking?

00:51:46.900 It would probably be better.

00:51:48.200 It would be perfect.

00:51:48.980 Yeah.

00:51:50.300 It really would be perfect.

00:51:51.660 Yeah, no, I know.

00:51:53.280 I've done the, um, the prayer that you guys said.

00:51:56.780 The side of prayer.

00:51:56.900 Yeah, but sometimes I just don't feel like doing it, and then I don't.

00:52:01.480 For the beta.

00:52:02.360 Yeah, I know.

00:52:03.820 I'm just being honest.

00:52:05.060 So, do you, why don't you just, you need, the only time you need thinking is, like, to run your business.

00:52:14.860 Yeah.

00:52:15.220 You need practical thinking, right?

00:52:16.540 Yeah.

00:52:16.820 To run your business.

00:52:17.840 Because God gave you the ability to think about running your business, how to make money, to put food on your table, how to pay your bills.

00:52:26.180 But once that is done, you don't live by that.

00:52:28.840 It's a tool.

00:52:29.700 Yeah.

00:52:30.220 And once you've done it, at the end of the day, you put all this away, and then you practice staying present.

00:52:35.700 Know where you are at all times, and what you're doing instead of, in your head, thinking about the past or the future.

00:52:42.920 But if you can just see your hand going to the table for the salt, or stirring the food, or whatever, right?

00:52:49.860 Yeah.

00:52:50.220 Just know where you are.

00:52:51.260 It changes by itself.

00:52:52.280 Sometimes it's such a good tool, though, because I'm really impatient.

00:52:54.880 And I feel like sometimes I get things done faster because I'm annoyed something's not done.

00:53:01.640 And I just want to get it done.

00:53:03.940 But you will if you stayed away from thinking.

00:53:06.940 Yeah.

00:53:07.660 It'll be easy, and you'll do it faster, and you'll have time left.

00:53:11.220 Yeah.

00:53:11.860 You really will.

00:53:12.660 Yeah.

00:53:13.000 But you've got to practice staying present.

00:53:14.980 Yeah.

00:53:15.620 How long have you had perfect peace?

00:53:18.320 Well, 35 years.

00:53:19.900 Really?

00:53:20.220 And I have so many challenges, situations, but they're outside of me.

00:53:26.980 They're not in me.

00:53:27.880 Okay.

00:53:28.400 And so situations come, but you see how to deal with them outside of you, but you're not

00:53:34.300 bothered inside about them at all.

00:53:36.320 You don't even think about them.

00:53:37.380 Does that mean, because I think I've seen you say on your show, once you have perfect peace,

00:53:41.400 you don't sin anymore?

00:53:42.560 Right.

00:53:43.140 And so you're saying you haven't sinned in 35 years?

00:53:45.540 What you realize is that you had never sinned anyway.

00:53:48.740 It was never you.

00:53:49.500 I like this one.

00:53:50.920 Yeah.

00:53:51.620 I get a get-out-of-jail-free card for everything I've done.

00:53:54.960 But you have never done anything wrong.

00:53:57.700 But you're saying it was the demons, right?

00:53:59.820 I promise you, it was never you.

00:54:03.060 That's great.

00:54:03.660 The only, when God said that we have to repent, the only, there's only thing we need to repent

00:54:11.060 of and repent means to admit that you're wrong.

00:54:14.240 Anyone that has anger and resentment, they're judging, they're playing God.

00:54:18.880 They think they know right for wrong.

00:54:21.260 So they're judging themselves or they think themselves and they're judging others because

00:54:25.440 they think they know right for wrong.

00:54:28.000 But we realize I'm angry and I can't help myself.

00:54:31.520 I've been judging, then God will forgive you and he will take that away from you.

00:54:36.540 And he will draw you inwardly and you'll stop judging.

00:54:41.000 Human beings think they know right for wrong.

00:54:43.080 They don't.

00:54:43.520 They have no clue of what right and wrong.

00:54:46.180 And they're based on what they've been taught right and wrong is.

00:54:49.200 Sometimes like the worst things happen in the name of being, like doing something good.

00:54:53.620 Yeah.

00:54:54.060 Right.

00:54:54.860 Yeah.

00:54:55.160 Absolutely.

00:54:55.940 Yeah.

00:54:56.520 And so you have never done anything wrong your whole life.

00:55:00.640 Nice.

00:55:01.520 Really?

00:55:02.200 But you don't believe that, huh?

00:55:03.780 No.

00:55:05.860 Sorry.

00:55:06.880 I don't know.

00:55:07.860 No, me sorry.

00:55:08.480 I totally understand it.

00:55:10.440 The real you.

00:55:11.780 Who are you?

00:55:12.540 I like this idea, though.

00:55:14.520 It's not even idea.

00:55:15.880 It's reality.

00:55:17.140 Okay.

00:55:17.660 Because it was the demons doing things wrong.

00:55:20.100 In you.

00:55:20.660 Yeah.

00:55:21.480 But do you think, and you're saying human beings are like perfect, but we have demons in us.

00:55:27.180 Yeah.

00:55:27.420 Because we're made in the image of God.

00:55:29.020 Yes.

00:55:29.380 That's kind of the idea.

00:55:30.080 And Christ said, it is done.

00:55:33.900 It is finished.

00:55:36.160 All of your sins have been wiped away.

00:55:38.420 You are free.

00:55:39.780 And so if Christ said all of your sins have been wiped away, that means you have none,

00:55:43.300 right?

00:55:43.520 So why do you call yourself a sinner?

00:55:47.140 You're only doing it because somebody else told you that you was a sinner.

00:55:50.600 Yeah.

00:55:51.120 Not because you came up with that idea yourself.

00:55:53.700 So do you think that no one goes to hell then?

00:55:57.520 Do you not believe in hell?

00:55:59.220 There are anyone that has anger and living in their imagination is already in hell.

00:56:04.160 You're saying this is, so if I get angry, then I'm in hell.

00:56:06.560 You're in hell.

00:56:07.140 But hell is it so bad?

00:56:12.480 If you get like really happy, because people that get really happy, they work hard to stay

00:56:19.500 happy.

00:56:20.040 Yeah.

00:56:20.880 But because they are trying to prevent from becoming unhappy again.

00:56:24.880 Yeah.

00:56:25.120 And then when you're unhappy, you got to work hard to become happy again.

00:56:29.440 But if you had, if you only had peace and no happiness or sadness, you'd be free.

00:56:35.480 Just think about having peace and no happiness or sadness.

00:56:39.140 If there is no up, there could not be a down.

00:56:44.140 I'll try it.

00:56:45.280 That make sense?

00:56:46.120 Yeah.

00:56:46.740 It kind of does.

00:56:48.400 I don't know if I fully agree, but.

00:56:50.840 And why not?

00:56:51.860 Can you have an up if you don't have a down?

00:56:54.060 No, I agree with that part.

00:56:55.640 Right.

00:56:55.800 That like the ups and downs.

00:56:57.660 It's better to be more stable.

00:57:00.120 You know, if there is no right, could there be a wrong?

00:57:04.860 There's no right or wrong now?

00:57:06.900 If there is no right, could there be a wrong?

00:57:09.400 No.

00:57:12.760 Sorry, I think you lost me.

00:57:18.040 If there's no right, could there be a wrong?

00:57:21.040 No.

00:57:21.260 Or if there's no wrong, could there be a right?

00:57:23.240 Are you saying, like, it's kind of a waste of time to think about right?

00:57:27.420 It's all in the mind.

00:57:28.420 Okay.

00:57:28.920 That's the thought.

00:57:30.020 Everything should be practical.

00:57:32.040 Absolutely.

00:57:32.720 Okay.

00:57:32.900 It goes back to the practicality.

00:57:33.780 The thought builds a right and a wrong, and they drive you to make you try to be one way or another.

00:57:41.560 You said that God wants us to love him by choice.

00:57:44.140 Yes.

00:57:45.600 Because forced love is not love.

00:57:48.260 And you love God by realizing that you are not God, and you let go.

00:57:54.120 You let go of trying to change yourself, your thoughts and your feelings or yourself at all.

00:57:59.220 And you just let go and let him do it.

00:58:01.400 Yeah.

00:58:01.600 Well, because it's kind of a waste of time to think about what you are, if you're good or bad.

00:58:06.120 Absolutely.

00:58:06.760 Because my dad's kind of, like, he naturally is just kind of that way.

00:58:12.640 Men used to be that way.

00:58:13.660 Yeah, because I would say, like, what do you, do you think this person's good?

00:58:16.600 Or, but he's like, I don't think about it.

00:58:18.160 Right on.

00:58:18.640 Yeah.

00:58:19.100 He's like, I don't care.

00:58:20.360 You better follow your father.

00:58:22.120 What?

00:58:22.640 You better stay with your earthly father.

00:58:24.240 He's right.

00:58:24.920 Oh, yeah.

00:58:25.300 My dad, he's so cool.

00:58:26.380 He's so right about that.

00:58:27.520 Yeah.

00:58:28.080 It's because he's not crazy because he's not on social media.

00:58:30.940 Yeah.

00:58:31.180 It makes everyone's brains get scrambled.

00:58:33.280 Yeah.

00:58:34.480 But I want you to know that you have not done anything wrong.

00:58:38.440 And those, those excitement you get with annoyed, being annoyed and all that kind of stuff, those are just thrills.

00:58:46.600 Yeah.

00:58:47.020 Those are ego thrills.

00:58:49.360 And he would be angry people live off thrills.

00:58:53.180 Yeah.

00:58:53.380 That's why they try to hurt others and they laugh.

00:58:57.360 They try to make you feel bad and they laugh because they get in a thrill and they call that thrill life.

00:59:03.620 But they're really in hell.

00:59:05.020 Yeah.

00:59:05.200 And you're saying they're demons in your head, basically.

00:59:07.840 And the way to overcome them is to do the silent prayer, which is like watching them, basically.

00:59:12.880 That's all you need to do.

00:59:13.720 And then you just watch them until they go away.

00:59:16.200 And you first forgive your mother so God can forgive you for judging, right?

00:59:19.640 Yeah.

00:59:20.100 Playing God.

00:59:20.820 Yeah.

00:59:21.200 Because when you forgive your mom, it's like you kind of, you see everything in a different light.

00:59:25.720 Absolutely.

00:59:26.020 Because your whole life she's kind of putting her reputation as amazing and awesome.

00:59:30.980 And like once you unsee that, then you kind of start to see other stuff too.

00:59:35.900 Exactly.

00:59:36.520 Yeah.

00:59:36.760 And just imagine what happens when you stay present rather than being in your head at all.

00:59:42.200 Yeah.

00:59:42.720 You see everything.

00:59:45.720 You see everything.

00:59:47.920 You will come to know what Christ knew and know.

00:59:51.420 You will come to know that too.

00:59:53.120 But you got to stay present.

00:59:54.340 And so.

00:59:54.720 Eternal life is always present.

00:59:56.480 And so do you see that as heaven then?

00:59:59.460 Once you overcome your thoughts.

01:00:01.220 Right.

01:00:01.440 That's what heaven is.

01:00:02.720 Yes.

01:00:02.900 Like from your world.

01:00:04.240 Inside of you.

01:00:05.840 When you overcome thought, you stay present with eternal life.

01:00:09.140 It's paradise.

01:00:10.820 And when you drop your body like that, you just stay in paradise.

01:00:15.440 But if you drop your body in hell by being angry and judgmental and afraid, you just stop

01:00:22.360 in hell and there's no way out.

01:00:24.740 So you've never met a woman with perfect peace?

01:00:27.300 How many men have you met with perfect peace?

01:00:30.060 None.

01:00:32.640 No, maybe two or three.

01:00:34.680 I know a couple older men that I met that have perfect peace.

01:00:39.140 But not young men.

01:00:40.880 Because they got to overcome their mother's spirits and they don't know it yet.

01:00:47.720 Yeah.

01:00:48.260 Yeah.

01:00:48.900 But those guys who hear it the way you heard the message, they hear it, they go and forgive.

01:00:53.400 They start to give a little taste of perfect peace.

01:00:55.940 And then they start to, during the silent prayer, and stand present.

01:01:01.320 And was this taught to you?

01:01:03.380 Or did you just like observe it?

01:01:05.620 I asked God to let me.

01:01:07.000 Because I was the same way.

01:01:09.140 I was lost in my head.

01:01:10.880 I resented my mother.

01:01:12.960 I used to be afraid of women.

01:01:15.320 I was afraid to speak up for myself and all that.

01:01:19.200 And I would go into different churches looking for the accident and have it.

01:01:22.940 So I finally asked God to let me see myself.

01:01:26.080 Because I didn't know myself.

01:01:27.360 I'm like, I don't really know myself.

01:01:29.100 And the Bible said to know yourself.

01:01:31.220 And I asked him to let me see what's wrong with me.

01:01:33.900 I'm doing everything the church says.

01:01:35.820 But nothing is changing.

01:01:37.320 And he allowed me to see that I resented my mother.

01:01:41.100 And I didn't know I resented my mother.

01:01:42.900 I felt emotion for my mother.

01:01:44.600 I thought that was love.

01:01:45.760 But that was hate.

01:01:47.240 And I went shaking in my boots.

01:01:49.920 And I was 38 at the time.

01:01:52.740 And I was like, well, I'm afraid to go and forgive my mother.

01:01:55.360 I was shaking.

01:01:56.840 And I went and did it anyway.

01:01:58.340 And things changed.

01:01:59.900 And so that's why I know what hell is like.

01:02:02.980 And I know what heaven is like.

01:02:04.160 Why do you think the churches don't have the answers nowadays?

01:02:09.540 Because they're intellectually lost.

01:02:12.140 Intellectual people are blind.

01:02:13.980 And they learn the Bible.

01:02:15.960 And they work on the outer self.

01:02:17.860 But they never do anything about the inner self.

01:02:20.520 And they have not overcome their mothers and things.

01:02:23.300 And they have the same fear that the congregation has.

01:02:26.820 And all they want is approval from the congregation to make them feel that they are important.

01:02:32.980 Do you know what I've noticed?

01:02:34.980 A lot of pastors.

01:02:37.020 No offense.

01:02:38.520 Not you.

01:02:39.280 But they're just guys that don't want to work a lot of the time.

01:02:42.960 Because they're like, oh, this is talking is easier than working.

01:02:47.560 It's a lazy way out.

01:02:48.640 Yeah.

01:02:48.940 And what they'll do is they just have all the single women in church.

01:02:52.280 Yes.

01:02:52.760 And then they'll hook up with them.

01:02:54.200 That's what the money is, too.

01:02:55.980 The woman has the purse.

01:02:57.440 And the women, they'll date.

01:02:59.840 They'll basically, even if they're not actually dating them, they'll basically treat the pastor like that's their husband.

01:03:06.620 Yes.

01:03:07.180 And then it's kind of like a lot of these churches, they're kind of just for single women that they don't know what to do with.

01:03:13.920 Yeah.

01:03:14.240 You know?

01:03:15.000 It's all ego.

01:03:16.140 Yeah.

01:03:16.660 One stroke in the other.

01:03:19.140 What a mess, huh?

01:03:20.040 Yeah.

01:03:20.240 A mess.

01:03:25.380 But I want black people to know that white people are not their problem at all.

01:03:30.620 It has nothing to do with racism.

01:03:32.260 No such thing as racism.

01:03:34.360 It has nothing to do with racism that doesn't even exist.

01:03:37.320 It's a made-up word.

01:03:39.400 And nothing is good versus evil.

01:03:42.100 Either you overcome evil and now you're good or you're just pure evil.

01:03:48.280 It has nothing to do with color.

01:03:52.040 It has nothing to do with male or female.

01:03:54.840 It's pure evil until you overcome evil.

01:03:57.940 There's no such thing as racism, sexism, homophobism, lesbianism, ism, lesbian.

01:04:06.460 Because it's all hate.

01:04:07.560 It's all hate.

01:04:08.200 It's all hate.

01:04:08.820 It's all hate.

01:04:09.680 And so it's just the same spirit, which comes from the mother, which comes from Eve indirectly.

01:04:16.020 100%.

01:04:16.460 Yeah.

01:04:17.140 And then the world called it racism because they want to control you with that.

01:04:21.740 Money.

01:04:22.100 With the money and the power.

01:04:23.360 Yeah.

01:04:23.500 And they know you can never prove you're not a racist.

01:04:26.580 You know?

01:04:26.880 You're never going to overcome that idea.

01:04:29.780 So they, look, it was so bad that they started out calling it, they wanted affirmative action.

01:04:37.060 Remember when they had affirmative action?

01:04:38.640 And then affirmative action wasn't enough.

01:04:42.320 They wanted reparations.

01:04:44.780 And then that wasn't enough.

01:04:46.980 Now they call it DEI.

01:04:49.000 It's never going to end because white people are afraid of the word racism.

01:04:53.320 If white people didn't fall for that word, it'll be over already.

01:04:56.980 Yeah.

01:04:57.200 And if white people didn't have money, they wouldn't even accuse the white people.

01:05:01.940 They just want their white people money and stuff.

01:05:04.340 Why can white people be guilted more than other races?

01:05:08.420 Because I guess they've been taught in schools and places like that that they are to blame

01:05:12.880 for slavery or your ancestry and because I remember before the DEI thing came along,

01:05:21.800 white people used to say, oh, I feel so bad for the blacks.

01:05:24.880 I feel guilty.

01:05:26.060 I feel responsible for slavery, right?

01:05:28.860 And so they use white people that way.

01:05:31.960 And so, and then if any white person say, no, I'm not responsible for you, they'll destroy

01:05:37.780 you.

01:05:38.480 Yeah.

01:05:38.780 They'll take away your baseball team or they'll take away your money.

01:05:43.480 And then they'll, you, they'll drag you down the road to, as an example of what would happen

01:05:49.740 to you if you say you're not racism.

01:05:52.840 And when the other white people see another white person being destroyed, they are, they

01:05:58.400 are afraid to speak up.

01:06:00.040 It's like the Allah people do.

01:06:02.600 Yeah.

01:06:02.940 They cut your head off and then they drag you up and down the road so other people can

01:06:07.600 see it and become intimidated.

01:06:09.660 Yeah.

01:06:09.820 I can tell you what happened to me.

01:06:11.180 It was, I, I really didn't see it coming.

01:06:14.580 I should have, I don't know how I did it, but I didn't see it covered.

01:06:18.420 But that's why white people have been intimidated because they have seen what happened to other

01:06:23.220 white people who disagree or they speak up to the blacks.

01:06:27.420 Yeah.

01:06:27.880 Just intimidation.

01:06:28.680 Well, it's tough.

01:06:29.060 And it's also with the women's stuff too.

01:06:31.860 That has not helped.

01:06:33.360 Yeah.

01:06:33.660 Because is it really for the average person?

01:06:36.920 Like we make money off of talking about this stuff.

01:06:39.740 But if you don't, you're going to lose so much stuff if you speak your mind.

01:06:44.500 Yeah.

01:06:45.160 And a lot of people are just going to look at the chessboard and say, this is not worth

01:06:49.100 it.

01:06:49.700 But what they don't know is if you don't have fear, you love what's right with all your

01:06:53.320 heart, soul, and might.

01:06:54.360 Yeah.

01:06:55.660 When one door closes, another one will open because God is with you.

01:06:59.580 And he's never going to let you go without.

01:07:03.780 He'll take care of you.

01:07:05.140 But you got to trust that in order to know that that works.

01:07:08.940 And so people get material stuff and that they make that their God and they don't want

01:07:14.920 to lose it.

01:07:15.660 And the world threatens you by taking something away from you.

01:07:18.340 Yeah.

01:07:18.600 But if you only love what's right first with all your heart, soul, and might, if they want

01:07:23.840 to chase stuff, well, okay, you can have it.

01:07:25.620 That's fine.

01:07:26.180 But you're not going to lose anything.

01:07:28.600 Yeah.

01:07:29.280 But you can only love God.

01:07:31.180 You can't love anything else before him.

01:07:33.980 You got to love the truth.

01:07:35.440 Mm-hmm.

01:07:35.780 Even if you're married, whether you're married or a woman, you're married, you got to love

01:07:42.580 that, the truth, over your husband or your wife.

01:07:45.640 The wife got to love what's right more than she does her own husband.

01:07:49.900 And the husband got to love what's right over the wife or the children or anything.

01:07:56.420 And if they want to go out of your life, you're like, oh, okay, bye.

01:07:59.780 See you later.

01:08:00.760 Because your love is coming from above, not from someone else.

01:08:04.080 And so they want to come and go.

01:08:05.520 Oh, that's on them.

01:08:06.420 Oh, yeah.

01:08:06.680 You do counseling.

01:08:08.040 I counsel with men and women around the world.

01:08:10.460 Why are marriages such hell on earth?

01:08:12.820 Have you ever seen a happy marriage?

01:08:14.480 No.

01:08:15.840 You know, I have this name.

01:08:17.580 I've seen one.

01:08:18.700 It's the same woman I said, the only one that loves her kids.

01:08:23.060 I've seen one.

01:08:24.220 I'm sure I saw some in the good old days way back when, one or two.

01:08:28.900 But no, because men and women pick the person that they own children.

01:08:34.200 They think they decide who they want to marry.

01:08:36.540 Yeah.

01:08:36.900 And you're going to always pick the wrong person.

01:08:38.820 But if you let it happen naturally, it can't go wrong because the truth is only going to give you the person that a marriage would last until death to your part because you're not trying to make it happen.

01:08:52.740 It came naturally.

01:08:54.400 But when you pick someone yourself, you're going to always pick the wrong person.

01:08:58.780 It's impossible to pick the right one.

01:09:00.840 Are you anti-dating apps?

01:09:02.600 You don't think?

01:09:03.020 Yeah.

01:09:04.000 I can't even.

01:09:04.840 You've got to be beta.

01:09:06.560 You've got to be weak to go to dating apps.

01:09:08.760 I think dating apps are good.

01:09:10.140 Uh-uh.

01:09:11.340 Dating apps are for cowards.

01:09:13.260 Let me give you my two cents as to why.

01:09:16.100 Okay.

01:09:16.400 Because Gen Z is so antisocial.

01:09:19.180 So a lot of the only, like, a lot of the really attractive women that are young, like, they're on either Instagram or dating apps.

01:09:27.300 So we're also going to, like, for the average guy.

01:09:28.960 But so you've got to drop that and get out there and face it.

01:09:31.480 Overcome the fear and deal with women.

01:09:33.380 Yeah.

01:09:33.600 Women need to deal with men in the right way.

01:09:35.200 Yeah.

01:09:35.480 But a dating app, you hide behind a dating app, and you would have always hit the wrong person.

01:09:42.360 Well, yeah.

01:09:43.360 We're going to do that anyway, though.

01:09:44.900 That's right.

01:09:47.560 On a dating app, people put on whatever showcase personality they want you to see.

01:09:53.400 But people do that anyway.

01:09:54.820 Right.

01:09:55.480 But dating app is not happening.

01:09:57.180 It's not helping.

01:09:58.420 No.

01:09:58.880 Well, it's not helping, but I just think it's kind of the way the world is now.

01:10:02.720 I know, but it's making it worse.

01:10:04.640 I know, but it's very difficult for the young people to, like, like, I asked my youngest sister.

01:10:10.400 I said, if you didn't have, like, this social media, do you think you'd have any social life?

01:10:15.920 Like, would you be included in this stuff?

01:10:17.700 And she just said no.

01:10:19.000 So I think it's difficult because a lot of, like, everything's just kind of online.

01:10:23.760 But she would have a life because she would get out naturally and make a life.

01:10:27.900 Yeah.

01:10:28.400 She would have a life.

01:10:29.080 She just doesn't believe that because social media is out there now and everybody's doing it.

01:10:34.440 Yeah.

01:10:34.700 But when you don't, you will get up and do what you need to do if you don't have anything else.

01:10:39.660 Yeah.

01:10:40.520 I know men who, there was this black woman in Virginia in this last election, a conservative woman, a Christian conservative woman.

01:10:53.320 No such thing.

01:10:54.020 I'm running against a liberal woman or governor or something like that.

01:10:59.300 Do you know about that?

01:11:00.540 No.

01:11:01.200 There's a black conservative woman and a liberal white woman.

01:11:05.740 They were running.

01:11:06.540 Yeah.

01:11:06.860 And the black guys were voting for the conservative woman over the liberal.

01:11:13.820 And I'm like, so do you believe that women should be in leadership role?

01:11:17.820 No, they say.

01:11:19.560 I'm like, so why are you voting for this conservative woman then?

01:11:22.620 Well, they're like, well, we don't vote for it.

01:11:25.000 Then the liberal got to win.

01:11:26.940 And then the liberals are worse than the conservative woman.

01:11:29.300 I'm like, no, man.

01:11:30.380 They're the same.

01:11:31.480 That, don't vote for them.

01:11:33.860 And they will see that you're not going to vote for women.

01:11:36.640 And eventually a man will step up.

01:11:38.140 You can vote for that man.

01:11:39.620 But if you keep voting for the woman with this excuse where I'm voting for the woman because of this reason, you're going to always get more women in leadership role.

01:11:48.280 Yeah.

01:11:48.640 They don't know that if you don't vote for her, you've visited a man who would come from Seoul and run.

01:11:55.600 Well, that's the one thing I disagree with Trump on.

01:11:58.340 Yeah.

01:11:58.740 He just has so many women in positions of power.

01:12:01.920 I know.

01:12:02.060 And I'm like, doesn't he have, I forgot what Christy Noem her title is, but I'm just like, why do you keep appointing these women to be in charge of them?

01:12:12.200 It's just weird to watch.

01:12:13.860 I love the great white hope.

01:12:15.640 Yeah.

01:12:15.840 I think you're doing an amazing job, but I don't agree with all these women in leadership role.

01:12:19.760 Yeah.

01:12:20.060 And so I call him the great white hope for those who don't know.

01:12:32.840 And some people call him amazing.

01:12:36.460 What manner of man is this?

01:12:38.860 The wind and the sea obeys him.

01:12:41.400 Some people call him king and they have these keys rally around the country and around the world for him.

01:12:48.600 And some people call him daddy, but I call him the great white hope.

01:12:56.860 The great white hope.

01:12:58.560 But I do disagree with the fact that he put all these women in leadership role.

01:13:04.400 Yeah.

01:13:04.840 And so I'm thinking, I was wondering, maybe he doesn't wish to know in school, but I think maybe he doesn't because so many women vote now.

01:13:11.840 And it helped him to get in.

01:13:13.800 Yeah.

01:13:13.980 And at least, even though I see women were not created to lead, at least they're under leadership of a man.

01:13:22.140 Yeah.

01:13:22.380 It's not like they have another woman as president leading them, right?

01:13:26.380 So at least they got a man, a strong man in that way that's leading them.

01:13:31.520 Well, because women will always say men need to step up, but then don't women need to step down?

01:13:36.220 Right.

01:13:36.680 Wouldn't it require you?

01:13:38.060 They will have to step away, yeah.

01:13:39.400 Yeah.

01:13:39.680 But they're like, men don't do it, women don't do it.

01:13:43.140 Like, God will use women.

01:13:44.540 I'm like, no, he doesn't.

01:13:46.840 He doesn't use women.

01:13:48.120 He doesn't call men a week.

01:13:49.360 He lets you suffer until you wake up.

01:13:52.100 And it's crazy because they'll put on their social media that they're doing it all.

01:13:58.100 Yeah.

01:13:58.460 And I'm like, how is this any different than the left?

01:14:01.260 It's the same thing.

01:14:02.240 It's the same thing.

01:14:03.260 If you don't have kids, it's one thing, but who's watching the kids?

01:14:08.020 That's always my question.

01:14:08.720 You are the only woman that I can remember that said that it's the same thing.

01:14:14.460 There's no difference.

01:14:15.340 Yeah.

01:14:15.560 Most women are afraid to say that.

01:14:17.420 No, all women are feminists.

01:14:18.980 Yeah.

01:14:19.700 Because when it comes down to it, if her back's against the wall, she's always going to...

01:14:25.400 We will always pick feminism.

01:14:27.240 Absolutely.

01:14:27.860 Always, if it comes down to it.

01:14:30.040 What a mess.

01:14:30.560 I think conservative women...

01:14:33.260 Because I've interviewed a lot of guys that were victims of divorce rape.

01:14:36.840 Right.

01:14:37.320 And I found that they're worse than liberal women in divorce court because they have to

01:14:41.780 pretend they were abused.

01:14:43.380 Because the liberal woman can just say, I'm a whore.

01:14:46.000 Yeah.

01:14:46.440 That's right.

01:14:46.940 I'm a slut.

01:14:47.840 Yeah.

01:14:48.360 What a slut.

01:14:50.240 But it's the conservative women that have to say, I was abused.

01:14:53.640 And they'll drag you to court.

01:14:55.700 They'll like...

01:14:56.360 Oh my God.

01:14:57.160 They're crazy.

01:14:58.120 A conservative woman will cut your throat quicker than a liberal woman.

01:15:02.360 Yeah.

01:15:02.620 Really.

01:15:03.180 I'm telling you, I know so many cases where this has happened.

01:15:05.760 So many.

01:15:06.760 Christian conservative women are nasty.

01:15:11.420 They are worse than a liberal woman.

01:15:12.800 I mean, you saw what they did.

01:15:14.240 Did you see what they did to Steven Crowder?

01:15:16.660 No.

01:15:17.100 So when Crowder got divorced, there was a clip of him leaked to the press.

01:15:24.240 And it was of him...

01:15:25.540 It's like a long story, but it was a fight, right?

01:15:28.980 But it was very obviously set up, like by her, where she was like, oh, stop this abuse.

01:15:35.440 You know, like one of you've seen him.

01:15:37.020 Yeah.

01:15:37.260 And long story short, the woman that broke the story was Candace Owens, who I've...

01:15:43.680 Yeah.

01:15:44.020 She was the one...

01:15:45.220 Yeah.

01:15:45.440 I know.

01:15:46.180 I know.

01:15:46.660 And I'm like, you're just...

01:15:49.680 When it came down to it, when your friend needed to divorce her husband and save her reputation.

01:15:55.560 Yeah.

01:15:56.000 And there was never an apology or retraction because it came out that he wasn't abusive.

01:15:59.620 But all of the press reported that Crowder was abusive.

01:16:03.000 When anyone that's worked with him knows he's such a nice guy.

01:16:05.680 Yeah.

01:16:05.900 I know that they never come back and say, you know what?

01:16:09.120 I was wrong.

01:16:09.920 Yeah.

01:16:10.620 I was just wrong.

01:16:12.060 I'm sorry.

01:16:12.920 I was stupid.

01:16:14.120 They never come back in positive.

01:16:15.680 They just move on to the next person.

01:16:17.420 Yeah.

01:16:18.200 Isn't that amazing?

01:16:19.040 And all the conservative women jumped on that.

01:16:21.400 Yeah.

01:16:21.580 Like that labeled themselves as conservative.

01:16:24.760 That's why I tell you that the conservative women are as bad...

01:16:28.580 Worse.

01:16:28.980 ...or worse than the liberal ones.

01:16:30.060 I would say worse.

01:16:31.020 Because they hide behind God and conservatism and the kids.

01:16:35.620 Yeah.

01:16:36.180 Absolutely.

01:16:36.860 Yeah.

01:16:37.220 What a mess, huh?

01:16:38.540 Okay.

01:16:39.260 So they want me to ask you about the civil war on the right.

01:16:44.420 Have you seen the debate between Nick Fuentes, Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro?

01:16:50.240 I have not seen it, but I've heard about it.

01:16:52.240 Okay.

01:16:52.740 What are your thoughts on it?

01:16:58.320 Again, I've not seen it.

01:17:00.220 Okay.

01:17:00.480 But I heard about it, and it just sounded like two devils fighting.

01:17:04.620 I don't know...

01:17:05.620 I don't know.

01:17:07.140 Because apparently they're fighting over the Jewish stuff, right?

01:17:11.880 Yeah.

01:17:12.460 They have different opinions on Israel.

01:17:14.580 Israel, yeah.

01:17:15.440 Nick is more pro-Palestine.

01:17:17.940 Ben's obviously more pro-Israel.

01:17:20.520 But Ben is mad that people are letting Nick on his show, on their shows, and believe that

01:17:28.140 he needs to have a more, like, adversarial interview.

01:17:31.980 But why is he mad about that instead of just them doing what they want to do?

01:17:36.600 He doesn't have to agree with that, but why would he be mad?

01:17:40.160 I wish I had seen it.

01:17:41.140 I have not seen it.

01:17:42.340 I have been hearing about it, but I've not seen it, so I really don't know.

01:17:46.800 Yeah.

01:17:47.560 What do you think about it?

01:17:51.740 Ben just seems to be afraid of Nick for whatever reason.

01:17:56.200 Because that was what caused the whole colonizer thing was when I had Nick Fuentes on my show.

01:18:01.260 Oh.

01:18:01.640 And then they said, oh, she had this evil guy on.

01:18:04.060 And my experience with Nick was he was really nice.

01:18:06.620 Yeah.

01:18:06.760 Like, I thought he was a really nice guy.

01:18:09.560 Maybe not all of his ideas I agreed with, but I thought they made sense.

01:18:13.280 I didn't think he was hateful.

01:18:14.500 Like, that was my honest opinion of him.

01:18:16.520 That's mine of him, too.

01:18:17.860 Yeah.

01:18:18.500 I've been interviewing him several times, a couple of times at least.

01:18:21.700 And I have a lot of respect for him.

01:18:24.060 Yeah.

01:18:24.800 And then I remember when I first interviewed him, he was so young, but yeah, he was so bright,

01:18:31.000 you know, smart.

01:18:32.340 And he wasn't afraid to speak up.

01:18:34.460 I used to think, wow, this is who we need for the president.

01:18:37.740 We need a guy like this for president.

01:18:40.640 Because he's not afraid.

01:18:41.660 Whether you agree with him or not, he's not afraid.

01:18:44.460 And we need more of that.

01:18:45.500 I liked that he could tell me why he thought what he thought.

01:18:48.600 Yes.

01:18:49.680 So I just don't know enough about the history of that part of the world to really have an opinion one way or the other.

01:18:57.240 There's some things that are just out of my scope.

01:18:59.140 But I feel a bit slighted because I used to subscribe to The Daily Wire and like pay for their stuff.

01:19:06.380 And they're a free speech platform.

01:19:08.120 Oh, yeah.

01:19:08.760 And I just don't understand.

01:19:10.380 I understand they have the right to do what they want.

01:19:12.600 But this is your issue that you followed for so long.

01:19:15.700 Why aren't you debating the top guy?

01:19:17.780 The less you debate anyone, you know.

01:19:20.840 Okay, let's debate it.

01:19:22.500 That's what free speech is all about.

01:19:24.120 I don't have to agree with you, but at least let's sit down and talk about it.

01:19:28.180 Yeah.

01:19:29.600 And he just keeps going on all these shows trying to cancel Tucker because Tucker had Nick on.

01:19:35.740 And Ben didn't feel like it was too nice of an interview, I guess.

01:19:40.880 So they want to stop.

01:19:41.740 Is there anything I missed about that?

01:19:43.060 He knows all the issues.

01:19:43.900 They want to get rid of Tucker because he interviewed Nick.

01:19:46.060 Yeah.

01:19:46.620 Why they want to get rid of him?

01:19:47.860 Not get rid of him, but he was criticizing him.

01:19:49.220 Right.

01:19:49.460 But why would they criticize that man for having a woman every one on his show?

01:19:53.960 It's free speech.

01:19:55.020 That's what I was saying.

01:19:56.240 Conservatives don't believe in free speech.

01:19:57.080 Yeah, I know.

01:19:57.520 They don't.

01:19:58.000 Really, they don't.

01:19:58.680 They don't.

01:19:59.020 I know because when I had Nick on, everybody was messaging me to not have him on.

01:20:04.660 Yeah.

01:20:05.020 Do you know what's funny?

01:20:05.580 I had him on to talk about dating because he's against interracial dating.

01:20:11.520 So I had him on to talk about it.

01:20:13.180 Nice.

01:20:13.600 And then I got pulled into the whole, like, Gaza palace.

01:20:18.120 Like, I just was curious, so I was asking him about it.

01:20:21.680 And that's when I went downhill.

01:20:24.580 What a mess.

01:20:25.600 I know.

01:20:26.340 I found out that conservatives don't believe in free speech.

01:20:30.600 No, they don't.

01:20:31.480 They only believe in it when you are saying what they agree with, what they want to hear,

01:20:37.000 right?

01:20:37.480 And the way I found out is that I used to do a lot of TV shows and things like that, Fox

01:20:42.240 News.

01:20:42.600 Yeah, you did.

01:20:43.740 And CNN and BET and I was just everywhere.

01:20:48.320 But once I started talking about the truth about women.

01:20:53.500 That's so true.

01:20:54.940 It changed.

01:20:56.340 They don't want you to understand these things about women.

01:21:00.680 And then there are certain things that they didn't want you to understand about blacks.

01:21:04.260 Yeah.

01:21:04.840 And so they discriminated against me because they disagreed me on this thing.

01:21:08.660 But yet they pretend that they have free speech people.

01:21:11.080 They're not.

01:21:11.500 And they put on these ex-porn stars who converted like yesterday to like be preachers.

01:21:18.220 Have you seen that?

01:21:19.460 No.

01:21:19.740 No, there's like girls that stopped their OnlyFans five minutes ago.

01:21:25.020 And now they're like, I'm a preacher and I believe in God.

01:21:27.300 And I'm like, even I know you had her on.

01:21:30.480 I think you liked her.

01:21:31.540 But it kind of rubbed me the wrong way when Amber Rose was speaking at the convention.

01:21:36.880 Oh, yeah.

01:21:37.500 Because I thought there's so many men that didn't make her choices.

01:21:41.100 Yeah.

01:21:41.300 Like, why are they giving her this like honor when you like stop doing OnlyFans at like 40?

01:21:47.580 You know what I mean?

01:21:48.100 Yeah.

01:21:48.380 I interviewed Amber Rose when she was a slut.

01:21:53.580 Yeah.

01:21:54.260 Unbecome a slut.

01:21:55.380 And then years later, something changed and she was no longer a slut.

01:22:02.440 And so I had her back on to find out why she wasn't a slut anymore.

01:22:07.480 And apparently her relationship with her father and her changed.

01:22:12.360 Yeah.

01:22:12.800 They became close.

01:22:13.720 So it made a difference in her life.

01:22:15.380 Yeah.

01:22:15.720 And so that's why I'm okay with that.

01:22:17.880 Because once you return to your father, you're supposed to have a better life.

01:22:22.480 Because now you love your father.

01:22:23.820 Because what people are looking for, all people are looking for, is the love of a father.

01:22:28.980 Yeah.

01:22:29.780 And so she's, you know, the second interview or the recent one I did with her, it was because of her relationship with her father.

01:22:36.640 Yeah.

01:22:37.060 I think I'm too blackpilled because a lot of women say these things, but they just lie.

01:22:41.900 You know what I mean?

01:22:42.340 Right.

01:22:42.560 So it's like.

01:22:43.180 But I think once.

01:22:44.320 You should have her on.

01:22:45.440 I would, actually.

01:22:46.480 Yeah.

01:22:46.800 I would.

01:22:47.140 Because I think once you discuss this, you got to see the change that happened.

01:22:51.280 And because she was with her mother beforehand when she was a slut.

01:22:55.560 You know.

01:22:55.880 Maybe she did the slut march.

01:22:58.180 No.

01:22:58.680 All I'm saying.

01:22:59.380 It's like.

01:22:59.700 It's just always convenient when they.

01:23:01.740 Like they always make all the money and then magically convert.

01:23:04.800 Yeah.

01:23:05.180 So they never like convert when they're making the money.

01:23:08.600 So it's always like.

01:23:10.220 And then they never return the money.

01:23:12.280 Yeah.

01:23:12.760 So.

01:23:13.400 I know what you mean by that.

01:23:13.900 Yeah.

01:23:14.280 So I'm always like.

01:23:14.940 I would love to see you interview Emma Rose.

01:23:17.560 Yeah.

01:23:18.240 That would be interesting.

01:23:19.900 I would.

01:23:20.060 He said we you have the ability to just be honest.

01:23:23.900 You know.

01:23:24.280 You don't tend to hold back.

01:23:25.660 And I think you will appreciate the change in her.

01:23:29.420 From what I can tell.

01:23:30.500 I'm going to show you.

01:23:31.520 No one ever knows.

01:23:32.560 I'm going to show you a video.

01:23:33.980 I want you to react to.

01:23:35.600 No one ever knows.

01:23:36.940 But.

01:23:37.660 But that's interesting with the Nick and the Tucker and other people.

01:23:42.640 I have not been watching any of it.

01:23:44.560 So I don't know.

01:23:45.140 The Heritage Foundation basically came out in support of Nick.

01:23:49.920 Or no Tucker.

01:23:50.740 For having Nick on in the name of free speech.

01:23:53.000 Right.

01:23:53.200 And they lost all their sponsors.

01:23:55.060 Whoa.

01:23:55.860 Yeah.

01:23:56.540 So.

01:23:57.400 Isn't that crazy?

01:23:58.280 That's insane.

01:23:58.920 And it's so crazy because there's so many people.

01:24:02.300 Like Nick's not doing anything illegal.

01:24:04.560 Right.

01:24:04.720 He's just saying his opinion.

01:24:06.280 And he has a right to do that.

01:24:07.740 Yeah.

01:24:07.940 If you don't want to agree with it, you have a right not to agree.

01:24:10.580 But at least.

01:24:11.580 Especially the right is supposed to be a free speech oriented people.

01:24:16.760 Yeah.

01:24:16.900 You know, we're supposed to, we're supposed to believe in free speech more than in love.

01:24:20.980 Yeah.

01:24:21.300 But it's just not true.

01:24:24.000 I know.

01:24:24.540 No, because I was early.

01:24:25.980 Now people can have him on the show.

01:24:27.740 How did you not lose everything when you had him on?

01:24:30.780 You had him on before me.

01:24:33.040 I know.

01:24:33.820 How did you?

01:24:34.520 I even spoke at, I spoke at his conference before.

01:24:39.440 Where Christ is king.

01:24:42.200 I spoke at the conference.

01:24:43.680 I don't know.

01:24:44.200 I just never thought about losing anything, I guess.

01:24:47.100 I think that's what it is.

01:24:49.160 Oh my gosh.

01:24:50.080 Okay.

01:24:50.340 Plus I don't, really, I don't know what tomorrow is going to bring, but I truly love what's

01:24:56.580 right more than anything.

01:24:58.920 I love the truth.

01:25:00.080 Yeah.

01:25:00.660 And I have, I don't think about what I have or don't have or what I'm going to lose or

01:25:06.080 don't lose because my life now is about what's right.

01:25:11.260 Yeah.

01:25:11.840 And so I may be losing stuff and don't even know it.

01:25:15.100 I may be losing people.

01:25:16.900 I don't even realize because I'm not hungry.

01:25:19.660 I still have a roof on my head.

01:25:21.120 Yeah.

01:25:21.880 And I don't think about how much money I got to have or don't have or people who like

01:25:27.100 me or don't like me.

01:25:28.480 It's just not part of my thinking.

01:25:30.460 And so I'm sure there are people who are like protesting on Jess or unfriending me or

01:25:36.520 whatever, but I don't even know about it, nor do I think about it.

01:25:40.520 All right.

01:25:40.760 Have you heard of the hierarchy of whoredom?

01:25:43.580 Hierarchy of what?

01:25:46.060 Okay.

01:25:46.500 Poe is someone that does it for attention.

01:25:52.200 What up guys?

01:25:53.380 Welcome to the Just Curly Things YouTube channel and welcome to my whiteboard videos.

01:25:58.780 Today, I am going to go over the hierarchy of whoredom.

01:26:04.680 Before I start, don't forget to subscribe to the channel and bring that notification bell.

01:26:08.880 That way you're going to be notified of my daily videos.

01:26:11.280 So this last week, I decided that I wanted to know more about whores, sluts, hoes, nice

01:26:19.120 ladies, and oh, I forgot to add one.

01:26:21.200 Sorry.

01:26:22.220 Ladies and wifey material.

01:26:25.060 So this week we did a show where we really wanted to define the terms because a lot of

01:26:31.020 men out there cannot define what's a whore, what's a slut, what's a whole lot of the women.

01:26:35.620 It's like, what is this?

01:26:36.500 And I'd like to tell you guys, in 2023, if we go by a historical point of view, 95% of

01:26:43.140 women would be whores.

01:26:44.040 However, we are in 2023.

01:26:45.920 So we got to adapt to the time.

01:26:47.700 So I surveyed some men to see what they thought.

01:26:50.400 The definition that we came up with was a whore is someone that has sex for money or does

01:26:56.540 slutty things for money.

01:26:57.880 A slut is someone who does it for sex.

01:27:01.500 And a hoe is someone that does it for attention.

01:27:05.360 So we went through some scenarios as a class.

01:27:09.020 A whore is an OnlyFans worker, a stripper, a hooker, or an escort.

01:27:14.640 I think I spelled escort wrong, but nevermind that.

01:27:18.340 A slut is a woman cheats on her boyfriend one night stands because what's she doing it for?

01:27:24.080 Next we have a hoe.

01:27:25.340 Now this is a girl, ass picks on the gram, okay, or 15 plus bodies.

01:27:31.640 Now, okay guys, there's been a lot of dispute.

01:27:33.960 Some guys are saying, no, it's way less than that.

01:27:38.000 I, I just ask the people.

01:27:39.960 I just, I just report the news.

01:27:41.640 Let me know if there's anything else we should add to the top three, but that's what we got

01:27:45.440 for now.

01:27:45.840 So then we have a lady.

01:27:47.600 So a lady can have roughly five to 14 bodies, okay, but she cannot have gotten these through

01:27:55.340 one night stands.

01:27:56.360 So no one night stands.

01:27:58.160 You can only have gotten the bodies.

01:28:01.080 You, maybe you got ghosted, took an owl, but you could still be a lady.

01:28:04.980 You have five to 14 bodies.

01:28:06.520 Now let's define a nice lady.

01:28:08.800 Zero to five bodies is a nice lady.

01:28:11.660 And wifey is a virgin, is wife material.

01:28:16.060 So now that we have some definitions, what I wanted to do was I wanted to make a hierarchy

01:28:21.400 of whoredom.

01:28:22.200 Now I'm just repeating back to you what the markets don't shoot the messenger.

01:28:26.920 Okay, ladies.

01:28:28.080 All right.

01:28:28.740 So here we have the least desirable.

01:28:31.340 Here we have the most desirable and most rare.

01:28:34.220 So what is going to go on the least desirable level in terms of sluttiness?

01:28:39.960 This is the hierarchy of whoredom.

01:28:42.840 All right.

01:28:43.240 So at the bottom we have hookers.

01:28:45.900 Now there's many names for these ladies, hookers, um, escort, escorts, um, streetwalkers,

01:28:53.420 nightwalkers.

01:28:54.160 But at the end of the day, they're selling for money.

01:28:57.580 We have porn stars now because they're not just straight selling sex.

01:29:02.260 They have less partners, but porn stars are above hookers, only fans.

01:29:07.500 Ladies, you're not at the bottom, but you're not far from it.

01:29:10.980 You're just above hookers, porn stars, then only fans.

01:29:15.380 Next we have strippers.

01:29:16.900 Now a stripper can go on to live a normal life because there was no, maybe he didn't sell

01:29:23.340 sex for money.

01:29:24.300 I mean, we all know what goes on in the strip clubs, but maybe she just stripped.

01:29:28.600 So then now this is the most disputed one.

01:29:30.960 I asked the men, what's worse?

01:29:32.600 Would you rather take a single mother or a woman with a high body count?

01:29:36.100 Now we all know that there's single mothers with high body count.

01:29:40.000 Like we all know, but I said, you have to pick one.

01:29:42.780 And the men picked drum roll, please.

01:29:46.020 High body count.

01:29:47.160 If you sleep with too many people, you are barely better than a stripper.

01:29:51.260 Now, what number this is, is very disputed across the board.

01:29:56.120 I've heard numbers like around 25, it switches.

01:30:00.500 They'd rather take a single mom.

01:30:01.920 I've had some guys say 10.

01:30:03.580 I've had some guys say 30.

01:30:05.360 I don't know when it switches exactly for men, but let's just say somewhere between 15

01:30:10.640 to 30, they'll take the kid over the body.

01:30:13.860 Don't shoot the messenger.

01:30:15.280 Now, remember, if you have both, you're lower, but if you just have a kid and not the body

01:30:21.040 count, you're slightly above the horse, but not by much.

01:30:24.680 I mean, hoes.

01:30:25.520 These are hoes, maybe sluts, maybe sluts, the hoes and the sluts.

01:30:28.860 And remember, level of ladies are mid body count.

01:30:32.620 So again, I've had some dispute, but what I've gotten is like five to like 15 roughly.

01:30:39.840 Men will take that over the kid, but it switches around there.

01:30:44.500 Then we have low body count, which nowadays is like under 10, under five.

01:30:50.880 Again, please don't shoot the messenger.

01:30:53.100 I'm just repeating back what I've been told.

01:30:55.140 And at the top, virgin.

01:30:57.460 This is the hierarchy of whoredom from Lee Slutty.

01:31:01.920 Let me know if there's anything I forgot, guys.

01:31:04.720 You know, I love giving these lessons to you.

01:31:07.440 Let me know if there's anything I forgot.

01:31:09.680 What did you think?

01:31:11.420 What a breakdown.

01:31:12.720 What did you think?

01:31:13.340 Did you think it was accurate?

01:31:14.500 It is.

01:31:16.720 It totally is.

01:31:18.260 But in the good old days when boys were boys and men were men, any woman that had sex out

01:31:23.620 of a wet lot was a whore.

01:31:25.840 And then when they got paid for it, they were prostitutes.

01:31:31.400 But now there are no virgins.

01:31:35.720 Nobody's a virgin.

01:31:36.740 There are no virgins.

01:31:37.400 So they're all sluts.

01:31:39.500 And so, but I love the breakdown unit.

01:31:43.140 I've not seen them, you know, breaking down like that.

01:31:46.320 I like, I like to define things.

01:31:48.240 Yeah, I see.

01:31:49.520 But, uh, but it was.

01:31:51.480 Just so you can know where you're at on the chart.

01:31:54.100 Yeah.

01:31:54.720 I love the breakdown.

01:31:56.140 I'll tell you what, the OnlyFans girls have been moving up though.

01:31:59.860 But, oh, they haven't.

01:32:01.020 Yeah.

01:32:01.260 Because, um, I think the men don't care as much about the nudes over sleeping with a bunch

01:32:08.660 of, like, they're starting to say, you know what, if I have to pick nudes over a woman

01:32:13.000 that's just been in the club for 10 years, I might pick the nudes.

01:32:16.060 But I've noticed they've become more normal for men to date OnlyFans girls.

01:32:21.220 And so, OnlyFans girls, they don't sleep around with a bunch of guys?

01:32:27.220 Well, okay.

01:32:28.880 Do you know, do you know, you know Alpha and Beta, like Alpha fucks, Beta bucks?

01:32:32.620 Right.

01:32:33.240 So, I think the way some men are going to see it, this is just a school of thought, is

01:32:38.420 that, yeah, the Beta bucks can, like, see the girl, but they can't be with her.

01:32:43.140 I get to be with her.

01:32:44.500 You know, I'm the guy that's, like, digging out the guts or whatever, you know, while they

01:32:51.060 get to watch.

01:32:52.780 Yeah, but, so I've just noticed an increase in, like, they've seemed to kind of, like,

01:32:57.240 worked their way up, where, like, I've noticed, like, people are actually dating girls that

01:33:01.280 used to have OnlyFans, especially if they can kind of wipe it from the internet.

01:33:07.340 Like, I mean, you had the Amber Rose on your show, like, I think she had an OnlyFans,

01:33:13.160 right?

01:33:13.360 I don't know.

01:33:13.680 Yeah, but I'm saying, like, she's still, like, had a long-term relationship after with

01:33:18.820 the kid.

01:33:19.380 Yeah.

01:33:19.840 Guys will be like, whatever.

01:33:21.680 I didn't, until right now, I've not seen the breakdown like that.

01:33:25.100 Yeah.

01:33:25.400 I've just always thought of any woman that got paid for sex, whether it's online or OnlyFans,

01:33:32.620 but they're all just sluts.

01:33:34.400 Yeah.

01:33:34.640 That's why they get paid.

01:33:36.280 A slut get paid whether they're online or on the street.

01:33:39.060 And so I never thought of, I never thought of the breakdown the way, you know, I just

01:33:44.420 figure women who get paid are sluts, even those who are online dancing nude or whatever

01:33:51.340 they do.

01:33:51.700 I've not even watched it online, but I didn't know that they were different.

01:33:56.200 Yeah, because now you can be a porn star out of the comfort of your own home.

01:34:01.660 Well, is that still a whore, right?

01:34:03.580 Or a slut or whatever?

01:34:04.420 I mean, I would say so.

01:34:05.840 Yeah.

01:34:06.140 But it's, there's a hierarchy, right?

01:34:10.920 Because again, the men, they don't really have much to choose from now.

01:34:14.700 They don't.

01:34:15.240 So they're kind of like, this is what I have.

01:34:18.780 I have to deal with what the market, it's kind of like if you go to a restaurant and you

01:34:23.220 keep saying, I want steak and they're like, we're out of steak.

01:34:25.740 Yeah.

01:34:26.340 That's right.

01:34:27.260 They're like, okay, I guess I'll take chicken.

01:34:29.720 Well, we only have really old used chicken.

01:34:32.460 No, you take that.

01:34:33.220 You know, you make such a good point though, because I noticed that more and more men now

01:34:40.240 are marrying women with children already or hooking up with women with children, living

01:34:45.080 with them.

01:34:46.060 And in the good old days, railing is, you see a man marrying, you do see this, but married

01:34:52.040 or hooking up with a woman already have children.

01:34:54.580 It almost seems like men just accept anything now.

01:34:57.280 Yeah.

01:34:57.440 Well, they'll take a kid over being fat.

01:34:59.560 Right.

01:34:59.940 And now, you know, if you're less than 25% body fat as a woman, you know, what percent

01:35:05.060 of women are that then?

01:35:06.360 What?

01:35:06.980 2%.

01:35:08.060 Really?

01:35:08.700 Yeah.

01:35:09.280 What?

01:35:09.960 Average woman has like $35,000 of college debt.

01:35:13.600 A third of women have an STD.

01:35:15.560 A third of women have had an abortion.

01:35:17.560 Whoa.

01:35:18.060 Yeah.

01:35:18.340 So it's like, you know, men get a seat.

01:35:21.980 That's amazing.

01:35:22.540 Yeah.

01:35:23.360 And the other thing is, what I should have, I think my next hierarchy is going to be evidence

01:35:29.740 based.

01:35:30.740 Yeah.

01:35:31.700 That'd be good.

01:35:32.220 Because, you know, if a woman sleeps around in lies, there's really not consequences for

01:35:36.980 her.

01:35:37.340 Right.

01:35:37.640 Because there's always men that are dumb.

01:35:39.580 Yeah.

01:35:40.540 Like there, have you seen that video going viral of the guy, like the comedian, he said

01:35:46.360 his wife was a virgin.

01:35:47.920 And then she went on a podcast and said she used to pop that.

01:35:52.640 Oh, God.

01:35:57.380 So she met him and she was like, yeah, I'm a virgin.

01:36:00.480 He's like, great.

01:36:01.480 And they got married.

01:36:02.280 I've never seen that before.

01:36:03.900 Women told me they were virgin.

01:36:05.680 They found out later it wasn't that she wasn't.

01:36:08.140 Yeah, because if he's a virgin, how would he know?

01:36:09.120 Right.

01:36:10.000 Absolutely.

01:36:12.580 There are no more virgins, right?

01:36:15.320 Well, they are.

01:36:16.900 They have to be like, if they 12, maybe 10, maybe nine.

01:36:23.200 Well, then they go see Leonardo DiCaprio or the version of that.

01:36:26.780 Right.

01:36:27.040 And they're not anymore.

01:36:28.660 I don't even think there are virgins anymore.

01:36:31.040 Yeah.

01:36:31.200 Well, all women start that way.

01:36:34.200 Right.

01:36:34.700 When they're first born.

01:36:35.720 Yeah.

01:36:36.320 But nowadays, though, by the time they're five, they're no longer a virgin.

01:36:40.060 Oh, my God.

01:36:41.400 I don't think it's that young.

01:36:43.520 Well, how young is it?

01:36:45.300 Ten.

01:36:45.980 I think on average it's 16.

01:36:48.480 But women lie, so we'll say 15.

01:36:50.360 Right.

01:36:50.980 15.

01:36:51.720 Yeah, how do you know?

01:36:52.660 Because women lie.

01:36:53.520 I know.

01:36:54.080 You don't really know.

01:36:54.980 But I haven't seen or heard of a virgin in so long.

01:36:59.360 I forgot they exist.

01:37:02.080 I know.

01:37:02.560 That's why the Christian men get bamboozled, though.

01:37:04.900 Yeah.

01:37:05.380 Because they're kind of targets because they want to wait till marriage, but none of the

01:37:09.280 women do.

01:37:09.900 Right.

01:37:10.420 So then they get into a relationship and the woman can just run circles around him.

01:37:15.800 I've seen that a lot, too.

01:37:17.040 Yeah.

01:37:17.460 And that's the challenge.

01:37:18.780 All in the name.

01:37:20.080 Yeah.

01:37:20.420 And they're like kind of like now they have to pay a higher price for what another guy

01:37:24.940 got for free.

01:37:26.160 What a mess.

01:37:27.000 He has a mess.

01:37:28.660 I remember when men didn't even want a woman who had already had sex with another man.

01:37:35.420 And you would know that she was spoiled already.

01:37:39.060 And then now you're going in there after some other guy or guy has been in there messing

01:37:43.540 it up already.

01:37:44.200 And it was so unusual that men would marry sluts like that.

01:37:51.980 But that's gone, too.

01:37:53.500 What a mess, huh?

01:37:54.620 I want my country back.

01:37:56.700 I think they were sluts, though, then, too.

01:37:58.900 There was just no evidence.

01:38:00.360 I was about to say they probably didn't tell it.

01:38:02.320 That's right.

01:38:03.500 After that.

01:38:04.760 Because, again, the girls that got married.

01:38:06.940 You make a good point.

01:38:07.540 Yeah.

01:38:07.780 The girls that got married in the 50s had the highest divorce rate in the 70s.

01:38:11.200 But what I've noticed is the hoe phases just get extended now.

01:38:15.820 It's like a decade where they had to be done.

01:38:18.520 Like, my grandma got married by 18 or 19.

01:38:21.420 So if she did, I don't know if she did, but I'm saying if she did, it would have been done.

01:38:25.420 Yeah.

01:38:26.020 That's right.

01:38:27.140 You're right about that.

01:38:28.040 Because they did get married earlier, too.

01:38:30.840 15, 16, 17, 18.

01:38:32.620 I have a relative that's about your age, and she says they're all lying.

01:38:36.400 She's like, we would just go to the bar.

01:38:38.000 I believe that.

01:38:39.140 I totally believe it.

01:38:41.160 I totally believe it.

01:38:42.680 What a mess.

01:38:43.580 I love that breakdown.

01:38:45.360 So how do women roll their eyes at you when they see you?

01:38:49.520 They're like, what the?

01:38:50.720 Well, they just get mad.

01:38:52.020 I bet.

01:38:52.700 Yeah.

01:38:53.100 They're just like, and I'm like, it's okay.

01:38:55.380 You can be a nice hoe.

01:38:56.620 I would actually take that over a lot of the conservative women.

01:38:59.340 That's right.

01:39:01.140 At least you're honest and up front.

01:39:03.780 Have you interviewed a bunch of hoes?

01:39:05.740 Oh, yeah.

01:39:06.680 Oh, yeah.

01:39:08.080 Did they get mad?

01:39:08.880 No, like, that's the thing.

01:39:11.260 When I interviewed all the women, I found that a lot of times the more conservative ones were worse for the reasons I said before, because they're too wrapped up in their reputation.

01:39:21.080 Where a lot of times they're whores, too.

01:39:23.440 They're just liars.

01:39:24.300 Right.

01:39:24.580 Where a lot of the OnlyFans, like workers, they're like, I am a whore.

01:39:30.440 At least the men know what they're buying.

01:39:32.160 Right.

01:39:32.920 That's right.

01:39:34.000 What a mess.

01:39:34.800 Because at least, you know, if they buy a whore, they know that she's like a used car and it's a low price.

01:39:41.060 That's right.

01:39:42.060 But the problem is you get these used cars with brand new prices and that's when the men get annoyed.

01:39:47.300 Yeah.

01:39:48.360 A little mess.

01:39:49.380 Well, thanks so much for coming on today.

01:39:53.760 I really appreciate it.

01:39:55.360 And I really appreciate the courage you have in dealing with, especially with the women issues and being so honest about it.

01:40:03.100 Because you just don't find women today who would be that honest about other women.

01:40:09.060 Whether they're conservative or liberal, they're not going to be this honest.

01:40:12.880 So keep it up.

01:40:14.220 Thanks.

01:40:14.660 You, too.

01:40:15.280 Really.

01:40:15.660 For being honest with the blacks.

01:40:19.420 What's wrong with the blacks?

01:40:22.740 Okay.

01:40:23.340 Where can the people find you if they want to support you?

01:40:25.420 They can go to jesseleepeterson.com or rebuildanddemand.com.

01:40:30.480 jesseleepeterson.com or rebuildanddemand.com or thefallenstate.tv.

01:40:38.900 F-A-L-L-E-N.

01:40:40.520 Thefallenstate.tv.

01:40:42.540 Okay.

01:40:43.200 Yeah.

01:40:43.580 Guys, make sure you go support them.

01:40:45.380 As YouTubers that talk about this stuff, we're always facing demonetization.

01:40:51.360 So the more you can give them support, the better.

01:40:53.900 Thanks so much for coming on.

01:40:55.600 Make sure you like the video on your way out.

01:40:57.360 Subscribe to the channel and I'll see you next time.

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01:41:00.480 Thank you.

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Pearl - November 19, 2025

Jesse Lee Peterson Joins The Sitdown： New Black Fatigue and Old Jim Crow

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