Pearl - August 03, 2025
Lauren Southern Calls Being a Trad Wives a Scam | Pearl Daily
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Summary
A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage for men and why it s bad for them. Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless. Most young men are single, most young women are not. Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
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Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless.
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This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
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Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
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Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.
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Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
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A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
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You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.
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This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
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You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
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It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
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Now many of the red pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
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One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
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She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
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Because if me and you were in a business contract,
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you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
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74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
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Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
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Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
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I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
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Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
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When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for.
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And you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
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I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
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You're literally just thrown out onto the street.
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We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
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and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
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Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
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A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole
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Feminism's biggest failure is in lives to women.
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We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
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We tell them to put off family into marriage.
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I don't think there's anything else in life
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that we actually ever go into preparing to fail right like if you have the mentality of this is
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going to go wrong and be pessimistic naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to
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fail anyway it's self-sabotage that's the thing like women are so willing to leave marriages
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because they're not happy this is not about happiness the most important thing is the
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children and the problem is we have a modern society where it's me me me my feelings leave
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when i feel like it instead of doing what's best for the kids this myth that we live in an age of
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male privilege. Where's my male privilege? They think, well, men have all the rights. They have
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all the power. Privileged patriarchal system that we have. Why doesn't our society care about men's
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rights? I have no friends, no white, and no socialized. Men are alone in this situation.
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Men are homeless. Men are thinking about eating guns. I've seen so many men on the brink of
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suicide, and they didn't do anything wrong. How are you equal if the men are the ones that have
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to fight and die to defend the country? The men are the ones that build and maintain all the
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infrastructure women are helplessly dependent upon men the so-called deaths of despair from
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suicide overdose to alcohol three times higher among men than among women culture is telling
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men you are no good you got to get your act together i think men have failed themselves
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what kind of a man are you what kind of a woman are you going to attract if men are in trouble
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so are women everybody knows this is a huge problem but nobody wants to admit it every
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single woman at the table said they wanted a man 500k 500k 300k 200k
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Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
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If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
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So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
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I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
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I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
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Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband.
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The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
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We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.
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This is an existential crisis failing young men.
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what up guys welcome to another episode of pearl daily here on the audacity network thank you guys
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so much for tuning in um today we are going to be talking about lauren southern's divorce when
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crazy women take ls they can't handle it but i first wanted to say thank you to everybody that's
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donated to this divorce documentary it's um with the donations that we're really able to do what
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can do here at the audacity network um we are trying to raise a hundred thousand dollars for
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this divorce documentary and i'm gonna read uh the hold on the people that donated but i gotta verify
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they gotta make sure this is me do you know what this two factor has really messed me up the last
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few weeks uh because i don't know what it is my technology is just my technology has been failing
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me okay it's been failing me I don't know how my computer the screen is broken so right now I have
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to use a monitor below this I can't even look I have to look here because this screen does not
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work this screen also crashed and my phone crashed well my other phone and I'm doing this like two
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factor thing oh my I just don't know how this all happens in the same week because have you guys
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ever had a technology week like that before the show i thought that monitor crashed too and i was
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like i don't know what it is this week um but it is because of the men and women that donate to
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this divorce documentary that it will be made possible um thank you to daniel for the donation
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maxine wayne john i just do first names oh two hundred dollar donation from bradford anonymous
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john rich eddie um thank you those are the donations from the last few days we're at 36
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thousand three hundred and twenty dollars um we'd really like to get to a hundred thousand dollars
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this year the reason is um i'd like to hire a documentary team and um i'd like to have like
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six months to a year of their stuff so we can start and fit you know but anyways all right
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so today we're going to be reacting to Lauren Southern, um, and a female enabler. So for some
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reason, um, and what was her name? Let me get in this thing. For some reason, when we take L's
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as women, we just like cannot handle it. I don't know what it is. Do you know what? Like there's
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been times in life where I've taken an L, you know, you get screamed at, you get fired, you get
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whatever. And it's just, it's just, it's just a sad day. Oh, Alex Clark. That's it. And
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but some reason women have to like rationalize their L's. They can't just accept it. You can't
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just say, do you know what? I failed in this capacity. I'm a failure. I'm a loser. You know
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what i mean that's really difficult for us um so today i'm going to be reacting to lauren southern
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um calling trad wifing being a scam but before i do i think we could have some fun and go through
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my tweets uh my retweets the last like day or so and i like to explain because if any of you
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follow me on twitter it's pearly things with a z sometimes my thoughts aren't the most well
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thought out so it might be kind of a little fun segment to start the day and we'll just go
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sorry not well thought out they're not well explained they're not well explained to the
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general public um this clip of nick is going viral it's always a calculated risk when i play
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him i think i could play him though i think this could be a cool i think it'll be all right oh thank
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you to the super chat i'm doing this on my phone i had to buy a new computer it comes tuesday
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post-plandemic chronicles thank you so if you want doug mpa i'll let you decide i'll default
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to a man can i play a viral clip of of nick or do i need to not i'll let doug mpa he can
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he can lay down the hammer or not it's going by it's really good it's really good i think a lot
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of people would relate to it oh now you guys are having std nightmares because of std friday you
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know yeah go for it doug mpa gave me doug mpa i think doug mpa's main job is to keep me monetized
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i just go off the handle i'm like let me say this this and that
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but you know the last few years i've explained i've had to kind of put my life on hold um
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you know i've had a lot of people step in to help me which i really appreciate um but
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i need to and you know what today i am actually feeling so good today i'm just in a good mood
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play the clip can you can you let me I kind of want to react to hit pieces because I think you
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guys would find it entertaining and there's some people I said nothing about that I want to give
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my two cents three years later because I didn't let it go I didn't I didn't screw you all right
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let me let me watch nick's clip he's so talented i'm sorry he i could see why conservatives hate
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him i really do because that man is one of the most talented entertainers i've seen in my life
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he has a way of words uh yeah i'm being accused of being the cia okay so let me let me give the
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preface so we we reacted to nick and candace um going at it right they they went at it on youtube
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and um they they did an interview and nick um and candace came for nick and candace owens i
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actually need to i i should go a little a little bit more uh let me let me get the other clip
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make sure my screen down because i don't know what's going to come up
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um but you know candace owens tucker carlson
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let's see let me get this um all right so there is a part where um candace that's a fascinating
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observation candace talks about nick so they're talking trash about that has never occurred to me
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that the theater kids have taken like literally the literal theater kids
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ah that's just here's your next role you're going to be president speaking of theater i i just
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hesitate even to ask this but um since because i i mean it just opens up all this stuff i want to
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deal with but you just interviewed nick one he's gonna regret asking this he's gonna regret asking
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this because nick torched him torched does i did or had a conversation with him what did you think
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of that what do you think of him i mean i can tell you my experience is was entirely fraudulent with
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him i i never interview people as a gotcha interview it's always so that's female gaslighting
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okay that is female gaslighting it's it's called g-a-s-l-i-g-h-t-i-n-g when she did the thing
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she's saying she didn't do and it was very obvious to everyone that watched and then pretend she
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didn't do it and again i really used to love i used to love candace owens um i i i used to love
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her stuff but ever since she turned on crowder i just can't i i can't unsee it and i don't care
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how many simps in the comments when she gives an apology remember she did an evil thing this is
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evil evil she called a man an abusive monster that is a terrible thing to do
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and now she quietly takes down the video and expects me to forget when is the apology
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and it just it makes me so mad you're grifting my religion and you're calling a man an abuser
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screw you screw you i want a public apology that is to steven in person off camera and as loud
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as the video you made a lot of money on pro my channel is demonetized I'm not given the option
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to reapply to make a five minute video and no exact date to be able to reapply can I be
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monetized again it's not looking good for you it's not looking great for you it's really not
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He's been around for a while and kind of his story when I learned it because he was banned
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So I didn't actually know what the backstory was with Nick Fuentes.
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But then I learned it when he was allowed back on X and Jeremy Boring.
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Now, I don't believe that she didn't know who he was.
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and you could tell because i'm like what's that what's the i don't i don't want to say
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the organizations because guys guys i love all people i am not going at anybody i love everybody
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um okay anyways then the ceo of daily wire did this ex live with him uh and jeremy boring did
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an event with nick fuentes it was honestly it was weird everything was weird about what happened
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but it happened. And Nick told his story and I was listening in and said essentially that he
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was canceled because he started asking questions about Israel. He was 18 years old and he alleged
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that it was very much the fault of the Daily Wire or whatever he said. And I found it very
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interesting. And I was like, oh, I actually didn't know this was the backstory. Maybe this really is
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a person who had just ahead of everybody else was questioning Israel and had like a bad hand given
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to him so i had him on the show welcomed him into my home and he was very nice we told him we're
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gonna cut you know a controversial trailer we're gonna show you like these clips of you talking
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trash about me and you can talk about whatever you want for as long as you want ask any questions
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you want to ask it went great he left he said thanks we can now be friends and i am not kidding
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we published this 11 days later and he it was I don't even know how to he just starts screaming
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calling me and so that's another thing women again women hate masculinity and they subtly
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shame masculinity so now she's thinking oh he was screaming Nick's not a yeller look at
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I know men that are yellers I do I know them
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ah there's things i want to say so bad but i can't the patriarchy has been novel it okay okay
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thank you for the super chat um but i look at nick is not a guy that's gonna scream at you
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he's not effing b-i-t-c-h who set him up we didn't edit a single thing those 11 days like
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two weeks before we even published the interview we told him if there's anything that he wanted us
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to insert like nobody does that if you go on their show yes and i don't know what i genuinely don't
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know what triggered him other than me at the very end asking him about like or talking about family
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yeah but so this is this is the thing with women they're so unlikable they don't know why people
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are reacting to that look i know my flaws you guys you guys have been very very open about my
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flaws all right i don't always think things through um i'm a modern woman
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i can be hypocritical i know um i talk too much i'm loud and if i put somebody off if i'm being
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honest i understand i can't be everybody's cup of tea i really can't um i can't so you know women
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what happens is they go through life and candace is like a pretty black girl her whole life she's
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been cute but now she's getting old and she's not going to be able to get away with the stuff
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that she used to get away with i was chubby all right i was kind of fat when i was younger
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i never got to get away with that all right i always had hotter fronts i've just i got away
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with stuff too right but this is my point so now people aren't gonna they're not gonna do what they
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used to do because she's a woman now she's not a girl she's a woman so now what's gonna what's
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gonna happen is she's gonna have woman consequences and yeah and that now she's not gonna be used to
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it. And now, so when she's a bitch and people respond, she's just going to gaslight them
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because that was a gotcha interview. And it was, it was just the rage that was coming out of him
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was just weird. And I don't know why he did that. I don't know why he did a 180. You had access to
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me. You could have said anything after you, even if he had said in good faith, I thought I sounded
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a little weird here. Could you cut it out? We probably would have cut it out because I just
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don't want people to ever not have a good experience. You know what I'm saying? You want
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people well this i'll speak for myself when i invite someone on especially just to hear their
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views i want them to be able to express what they actually think right exactly and you decide what
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you think and you decide how to express it i mean that's like a basic human right kind of and so
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um i'm not here to trip you up into saying something you don't mean i want to hear what you
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now now this is what women women go into men's spaces and expect to be treated like women so
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she's saying well you didn't give me the courtesy you didn't give me the basic decency why don't you
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talk off screen yeah and i had to learn this i had to learn um this too you know i'm not gonna name
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names i'm not gonna name names but you know um i'm not gonna you know you can't and i'm not gonna go
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there but you can't demand that you're treated like a woman in a man's world this is work this
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is business honey so yeah if you want to do a live stream responding
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and you're saying you can't respond to our debate because
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and i didn't really think she was he was mean about it either was the other thing
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you mean yeah exactly and he told the story he did all that and apparently then and i i don't
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know if it was driven by insecurity he didn't know how that's the next thing women do you're insecure
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you're insecure his followers would take the interview but he just did a complete 180
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lied to his audience pretended that he was surprised he was behind a paywall we spoke
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about him and how we were going to release it he said great i mean it's a totally total 180 flip
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so i can now say that i didn't listen to other people say that nick was a bad person i didn't
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care about what happened when he was 18 19 20 26 i sat across from a person had a conversation with
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him so now she's going towards reputation destruction you're a bad person you're a bad
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person and then it's posturing right i'm moral he's immoral yada yada paved one way in person
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and then put on a show for the internet so i actually can say my experience with nick fuentes
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is that he's a terrible person and a terrible human being because why would you do that there's
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no reason to do that like did he commit a crime and see this is the thing women use simps to
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destroy men's reputation he didn't commit a crime he said words she doesn't like
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and that's the thing women have to police speech because what happened really is nick embarrassed
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her because he cooked her oh my god he cooked her for two hours straight it was so funny
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um and she doesn't really like getting cooked because you know because she's a feminist i'm
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a feminist we're all feminists all of us all of us um but the difference is she's built her brand
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like you know off of being a good person and you got to be honest that you're not yeah you could
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have come back onto the show you could have had beginning of us discussing various topics
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I think in many ways, whatever happened to him when he was 18 may have stunted.
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I hope this helps our pearl. Keep up the good work. Breakfast in Ireland. Thank you, Maxie.
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His growth, meaning that he now is responding to the internet, which is filled with people
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that don't even use their real names. Right. So, so really, truly the irony of it all is you could
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just be like the IDF soldiers, just pretending to be his supporters, just getting him to say
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whatever you want, because he's going to do whatever you say.
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now they're jealous they're so jealous of him because he has a cult following he really does
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so many people know who he is that he he has more star power without all of these platforms than all
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these people that's why they hate crowder too crowder has more star power than them he does
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no ifs hands or butts hey but it was strange it was totally strange it made no sense and i just
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have a family or a normal life i asked him about that he said yeah it comes from a two-parent
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household. Does he have his own family? Does he? No, no. Now they're going to moralize, right? So
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now I'm better than you because I have children. They all, you, and I thought Tucker Carlson
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doesn't usually do this, but they all use their kids and their husband for clout. If you're a
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good person, I need, I should be able to see you're a good person by your actions. Why do
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you need to bring up your kids to morally posture that you're a good person? You know, if you're a
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bad person you're just a bad person with a kid do you know what I mean or like and I don't care if
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you're good or bad I mean shit I I suck in a lot of ways but you know my my point is um yeah he's
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not married and and I just offered to him I was like yeah no I think these are things that you
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learn when you're married and he just was no yeah so here she was nagging him about being married
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and look at this is her face when women when conservative women are told they're out of order
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you know that's not really it's not it's really not your place to tell a man what to do and oh
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my gosh on twitter she's going crazy right now oh my gosh i mean uh doug mpa could you get the
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there's like a a video if you could find it of the back and forth between nick and candace and
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And, you know, women don't tell me what to do or whatever it was.
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Like I said, the exact same thing to Andrew Tate months earlier.
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And of course, Andrew Tate did not react like that.
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He told me what his hangups were about marriage.
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It was just a part of two people communicating on a show.
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Yeah, because because again, she's gone through life.
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alphas sorry nick alphas tend to like be charming with women so they've kind of trained themselves
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to just say uh-huh and like whisper sweet nothings to women when they say stuff that's
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disrespectful where the more the guys that don't really date no offense and they tend to just say
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what they think but that doesn't really get them laid do you know i mean they just they just say
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like in general you know um but the guys that are like and some guys just can't do it they're like
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i just i can't but so she's used to dealing with these high level men that you know they've trained
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themselves to shut up when women do things that are rude it was he saw this as like an attack
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even though interesting yeah it was weird it was totally tender spot well okay has it occurred to
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you that and i just want to say i haven't watched a lot of nick fuentes in my life at all
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um but what i've seen the guy's very talented like just as a as a well let me just say this
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as someone who's talked to cameras his whole life it is very hard to sit and just like riff
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for 20 minutes and i just i think it's an amazing skill and he has that skill
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but i also have noticed um that his targets are all people who are sincere non-crazy
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okay so now they're they're yeah okay so they had a back and forth on twitter if we go if we find it
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we'll do it but this was one of the best clips i've seen of him this was a beautiful clip it's
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going viral yeah so i just thought it was yeah i peter teal's best boys wait here by tuck i'm being
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accused of being the CIA by Peter Thiel's best boys? By Tucker Carlson with his daddy? Tucker
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Carlson's, and you know what? Here's the other thing. Tucker Carlson said, I'm a weird gay kid
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in the basement. Yeah. And I'm from Chicago. You're right. Well, okay. You're not right about
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all of that, but I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth. Tucker Carlson says, I have
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so many trust funds, I never have to work. Tucker went to a $45,000 per year private high school,
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then a $45,000 per year selective Ivy League school in New England. Tucker Carlson's daddy
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was a Reagan appointee. And then after years of bragging about being an elite, bragging about
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being so out of touch and so rich, now he's going to be the spokesperson for all the white people.
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now he's going to roll up his sleeves i just like to hunt fish in my log cabin i care about
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clarna and credit card debt but then when it comes to me i'm one of the real disaffected white people
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you want to talk about me and them i am them he says nick fuentes is leading all the disaffected
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young white men i am a disaffected white young white man i was a precocious intelligent young
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white college student who went to Boston University, who was pro-Trump and red-pilled
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by Trump and animated by Trump's message of America first. And I asked questions about Israel
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and I was punished for it. I did it years before Tucker Carlson started talking about Israel last
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year. And I sacrificed and I was targeted by the ADL, by the SPLC, by the federal government,
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by the conservative movement that both Candace and Tucker were a part of.
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Candace and Tucker had nothing to say about Israel until it became unavoidable last year,
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not popular, but unavoidable. And now they want to gatekeep me out and do this personality attack
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and say, I'm a bitter loser in my basement from Chicago. I'm a kid from Chicago. And they slipped
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up there because they forgot for one second that they're pretending to be the spokesperson for
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exactly that kind of person. Tucker's mask slipped, and he forgot for a minute that for
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eight years, he's been pretending to care about the plight of weird kids in their parents' basement
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who are broke and didn't go to an Ivy League school, living in cities that don't matter like
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Chicago, not like Washington, D.C. or L.A. or New York. And that's why he had such disdain and
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contempt for me in that moment. Between the personality attacks, he's lonely. He's weird.
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He lives in a basement. I'm sorry. Did you guys forget that that's your target audience that
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you're trying to pander to? Did you forget that for two seconds? And I'm the inauthentic person.
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I am that person. I am a spokesman for the disaffected white man because I am one. And
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you two are not. Candace Owens got married to British royalty worth $200 million after meeting
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him for two weeks on Zoom. What the fuck is even that about? And Tucker Carlson's dad ran the CIA's
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propaganda empire fighting the Soviet Union. He went and fought with the Contras when he was in
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college. When I was in college, I was doing a webcam show in my friend's dorm room criticizing
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Israel. So who's the CIA cutout? Who's the inauthentic one? Who's the crazy hateful one?
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i would never describe a well-meaning young white person who's trying to get ahead as a weird kid
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in his basement from chicago and what is that supposed to mean what is wrong with being from
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chicago what is wrong with being weird what is wrong with living in your basement
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that's a lot of people because of the problems you claim to care about
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tucker's at turning point usa extolling the predatory nature of usury and how it's preventing
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young white men from getting homes and then the week after says you're in your mom's basement
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so which is it so which is he's cooking oh my god he's cooking it do you care about clarna
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My mother's father was a garbage man in Chicago, and he committed suicide.
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I didn't go to Yale Law School and suck Peter Thiel's dick and then get a sinecure at a venture capital firm advising Rebecca Mercer.
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and writing hillbilly elegy and talking about it at the aspen institute that's your biographical
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credibility how many of these disaffected white people that love trump because he's racist
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went to yale law school and got plucked out by peter teal whoever he even is peter teal with
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his fixation with the antichrist this homosexual who's involved with the cia
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wants to live forever and govern the world with AI. Yeah, that's really relatable. That's really
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relatable. Do another show with him and Curtis Yarvin. Do another show. Do the 47th show with
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J.D. Vance. It's it is insulting and it is insulting to everybody's intelligence for Tucker
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to sit there and say he doesn't know his dad is in the CIA for him to say that I'm in the CIA.
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what a joke what a sick joke especially after everything that's happened to me and unlike what
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Candace Owens says she says what happened to him when he was 18 what happened to me is ongoing
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okay unlike Candace Owens and Tucker I never got a contract with Ben Shapiro and Rupert Murdoch
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and that's the thing women enter industries and turn on them later when should I turn I'm getting
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close to 30 do i need to do i need to start turning on you guys sorry i'm kidding i was on
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maker support i was on patreon i was on d live i had to fight for everything i have i didn't get
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a million dollar contract from turning point i didn't get 20 million dollars from fox news
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yeah i mean he's talented and he just cooked them he cooked them to oblivion
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um doug mpa what was there another clip on the last tab of the document okay i'll check
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oh no that's not the one we reacted to that one that's not the one i was trying to find
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why is Candace trying to rehabilitate Harvey Weinstein?
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can't lie it was definitely putin that made me tell you marriage was aspirational vladimir hit
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me up on whatsapp to do the most random things lol so your answer is i don't know i'm not the
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one wondering why you would use your platform to rehabilitate a massad connected democrat pervert
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but just last week i was tagged in a clip of you claiming it was russia that was backing me
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did you think it was the massad now the israeli says it's qatar funding me at this point so i
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i don't really know nick everyone is wondering why you crashed out on your boss ben shapiro just
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so you could rehabilitate a degenerate zionist like weinstein but after your little frankest
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stunt last year it's just a little bit suspicious to everyone thank you candace says can you imagine
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like you're like mom can we can we play it's just i'm busy tweeting and nick um i think the best way
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for you to handle this is to post a clip screaming I'm a real man again and refer to me as a bitch a
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few more times to really prove because if a man isn't calling a woman a stupid bitch is he a real
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man I think not this is the way so now it just goes back to I hate these type of women they're
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such downers do you know what like I I have a potty mouth okay wait are the people in conservative
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media don't understand that every young white man is filled with contempt and despises the
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current system and wants it gone but it's just like who are you candace to tell nick that he's
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not a real man and then nick says why don't you put your phone down and go make me a sandwich
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the one um and then once you've calmed down and collected yourself explain why you were
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trying to help harvey weinstein and convince us that the frankists are not the jews
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I'm literally shaking right now. However, will I survive to being being told to go make a sandwich?
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You're really, really, really setting an example for real men everywhere.
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I'm trying my best to calm down and collect myself, but I'm a woman. So give me time.
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You're setting an example for real men. Take all the time you need. Turkey, provolone, lettuce and tomato, please.
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Easy mayo. Thanks, hon. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. Everyone can see that you are totally not a raging bitch.
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the thing is i'm just not myself when i'm hungry that's why i need a sandwich
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is this from a snickers commercial so good keep going it is funny that's why she's gaslighting
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she's trying to gaslight and say it's not funny but she's getting cooked on the timeline this is
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so funny true you seem unbothered right now i'm i'm not trying to annihilate you i just want you
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i just want to know why you keep pushing harvey weinstein and the frank casadas but you're being
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weirdly defensive sometimes annihilation is the only day way thanos do what must be done
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it's so funny okay yeah but you know i think my twitter i kind of like this twitter series where
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i could go through my retweets my tweets um so i said women will go to the ends of the earth to
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ruin your life with a smile on your face and this is because I've just had women do that to me
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and they think it's funny they'll like get you fired and they think it's funny they'll like
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yeah they'll like get like one woman caused me to fire 20 people
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one woman one and all the beta males that she got to help her and um
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i said um oh i i did show my my cookie i made last night i made this with coconut oil
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and it was actually pretty good i did coconut oil instead of butter you're curious all right
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I decided I want the birth rate to drop to zero
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and I want it because maybe then they'll be like,
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I said marriage benefits beta males the most
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and marriage is for beta males to get sexual access.
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So they're like, we need to spread out the women because otherwise these betas are going to attack me.
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Or, I mean, if you have something to pitch, you can do my Instagram, just pearlythings1, pearlythings on Twitter with a Z.
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all right but now let's let's get to the main topic today which is um
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which is the the trad uh the face of the trad wives um
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so basically lauren southern recently put out a book
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and i didn't read it because i just have better things to do um but basically but i will do you
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know what, if you guys pay me enough, I might do it. But I just think we all got better things to
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do with our time. But I will cook her today. So I want to show you what happens is the sisterhood's
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always real. So even women that say they're conservative. So this is Alex Clark. And she's
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assisting Lauren Southern and accusing all of the right of rape when she was really just being a
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whore. So, yeah. I think the majority of women in the trad wife space are having massive problems
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in their relationship that they will never talk about publicly. Are we talking about online
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influencers in the trad wife space? Yes. Yes. Conservative space? Yes. Some have speculated
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that your ex was a Romeo spy. Is there any possibility that that could be true?
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I don't like crying on the internet, but my son's going to grow up. He's going to watch this and I
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want him to know that I loved his dad very much I think the one reason I don't remain tortured by
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this relationship is because I gave it everything within a thousand times of him saying I'm going
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to divorce you a thousand times I said I'm not giving up on you and the worst part is it's funded
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by men so turning point USA that's the thing men they often get what they deserve because it's like
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they just they go to the ends of the earth to destroy men
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ideal image of marriage and family lacks the nuance and complexity of real life
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that is the story of what happened to her a trad wife fairy tale turned into a nightmare
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Southern, a Canadian journalist, documentary filmmaker, YouTube firebrand, author, mother,
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and survivor. This is Culture Apothecary with Alex Clark.
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Lauren Southern, you've had one of the most compelling careers in the conservative media
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space, but are the rumors true that you're a feminist now?
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Alex, I can't tell if this girl's just stupid or what.
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I have accusations made against me that do not apply and expectations I cannot fulfill.
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so I'm going to avoid that one like the plague. I plead the fifth.
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Well, talk a little bit about the environment that you grew up in, the belief system that
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you grew up in in your family, and how you ended up being. I would say that you are one of the
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first major content creators in the conservative, independent media space.
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Yeah, well, I grew up in Canada, so that's a pretty radicalizing experience. I'd say we're
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about 10 to 15 years ahead on the kind of left-wing progressive ideology compared to America.
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and growing up in Vancouver in particular, where we have mass immigration to the point
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where I don't even think the local population are the majority anymore, it's mostly immigrants
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right now, made my lived experience one in which I had to embrace right-wing ideas.
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I was watching my culture entirely change before me, and by the time I was in grade 12,
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we had progressive uh classes being introduced literally social progress 12 or something where
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we were learning about white privilege male privilege this kind of stuff and let's let's get
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to the facing accusations maybe let's skip but there were also a lot of i don't care about your
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early life lauren i don't care why you're a whore i don't i just care that you're doing it
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there are things going on in the background that i didn't talk about publicly because it was
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so complicated after i did my big documentary farmlands and borderless i was being massively
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attacked by large global media corporations but also intelligence agencies what were they saying
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about you they were saying lauren southern is what white nationalist was a big accusation okay
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of a country so people can have families your career is done lauren done that they can raise
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with freedom, freedom of religion. You know, I want to have that family one day. I want to have
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kids. I want to be, you know, what I'm fighting for. And if I keep this going, like I am going
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to end up behind bars for sure. I just narrowly escaped going to jail in Turkey, narrowly. And
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when I got married, my husband was an Australian and he was also working for a federal government
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capacity. And the Australian government told me I wasn't going to be allowed to come to the
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country, visit family, nothing unless I quit politics. It was literally in their stipulation
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letter to me. You are banned from the country. You're put on vacuum, which is a list for
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terrorists, criminals, everything. We will only take you off that list and allow you in if you
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quit politics. Was it a no brainer for you? Like done, like I quit or was it something that you
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really thought through and was we're kind of struggling with obviously it's something I would
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have preferred not been the case but it was a no-brainer like I when I told people you know
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family is my goal having kids get when I decide you know before we get into all of this I want
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to clarify I'm not the ideal trad wife I had a career I had boyfriends before my husband I had
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like you know she was a whore yeah you banged destiny everything nothing about my life is
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normal right but when I got married I was like this is my primary goal in life to be a mother
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a wife and have kids and everything else comes secondary so letting go of my career was absolutely
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a no-brainer but I would have preferred to have it and been able to speak publicly and not have
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a government be oppressive to me because my ideology for sure were you feeling any type of
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internal pressure like this is the kind of content I talk about and I need to make sure I'm living it
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out people can pretend when they are content creators that they don't feel pressure from
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their audience that they don't feel pressure from the comments section i remember when i was 20
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21 years old i published a video saying why i'm not married because i was getting
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so much incessant pressure from my audience saying you should have kids now you're basically
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valueless as a woman you're out here traveling and being a career and i had to go out there and
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be like you shouldn't rush into marriage you should find someone she should just stay put
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make children and then go back to politics and then stop going to Turkey or whatever foreign
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countries. Yeah, but she crashed out. She did tell all about her exes. Yeah. Dangerous woman.
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That's good for you. And like, make sure the test of time goes through. You should,
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some people aren't going to get married and that's okay. And I really tried to clarify
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that to my audience, but I felt like I was almost trying to clarify that to myself.
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Again, feminism is a strategy for women to spend their youth on themselves.
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And when women do that, it makes especially non-sexually active men upset.
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And the reason is because the men sexually active, it benefits them.
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So, again, betas benefit the most from marriage, and that's why they push it.
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alphas are getting sex um I hate using those terms they're placeholders but you guys get the idea
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self because I was feeling the pressure of this ideology and growing up you don't really know
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things until you live them you don't that's just how it works you know what's that Ann Coulter
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quote a liberal is just a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet I believe was the quote so it's
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like you don't understand well if that's the case then we should have a lot of people turning red
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in in california this year mass muggings yeah um so especially in the zeitgeist like i grew up
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throughout the whole creation of the internet you know i was born in 95 and i started on like neopets
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as a young girl the forums tumblr when it came out msn messenger oh you did tumblr and i had msn
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messenger and aim both yeah yeah so all of these like more rudimentary beginnings of the internet
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and then by the time i was a teenager like people started making youtube content you start watching
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that and unfortunately what was lost in that transition was you used to be able to get all of
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your information about relationships and love and what to do from real people around you where you
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could really see the fruits of what they were talking about so if someone was giving you advice
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on how to structure your relationship well you could see if they had successful relationships
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in their life they were in your community whereas the information we're getting today is from a lot
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of people who are creating exciting advice things that make you feel very confident about the
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approach you're taking if you do this if you follow this listicle then you are going to be
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well and the other issue is advice that worked for boomers doesn't work for gen z or millennials
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the boomer dad used to just be able to go out there's a hot woman thin ready i mean gen z guys
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got to figure out how to put their wife on a nutrition plan because they're all fat so and
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then also um how to like not get herpy like these they don't they have no idea they have no idea
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happy and healthy and if you don't do this you're going to be a miserable wench but you can't see
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any of them but so the other issue is a lot of times we look at marriage as bringing people
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happiness but happy people tend to get married um it's a byproduct of being a happy person
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because that's a skill so if you're an unhappy person you just become an unhappy married person
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if you're an unhappy person you're just an unhappy person with a kid they don't make you like it's
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almost selfish to put your happiness on somebody else real struggles they're having because
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everything looks good they think she's hot she's got herpes guys allegedly that's i mean
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allegedly she got it from tate so she could be hot but that hpv and herpes is coming for it's
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like you guys learn nothing from our friday std shows everything is sanitized what was the path
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to follow that you thought if i do this this and this this will lead to a successful marriage and
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happy relationship it was the whole trad wife stuff was beginning to become very popular on
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the internet when i was at the dynamo of my career you have to you know not have your job you have to
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Quit your job. Make that secondary. Be the stay-at-home wife. Be more submissive. Follow
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your husband wherever he goes. You've got to be attractive. You've got to be young. You want to
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get married young for sure because if you get married past 25, then you've hit the wall and
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you're basically used goods, whatever. I don't know how she could argue that she's not used
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goods as a single mother that has the reputation she has. Do you know what I mean?
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his advice pieces that i thought i had one i was way cuter at 22 i was fatter but you know
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i wasn't this black pill that probably was more pleasant you know it just is what it is lottery
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i found a very masculine guy someone said herpes i'm gonna die soon anyway so fuck it
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well I with a masculine career and I did absolutely love my husband
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one of the worst things tell us how you met him and what your first impression was
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the first time I met him was actually we weren't dating or anything then but it was when I was
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touring Australia and he was introduced to me as like a government dignitary so it was very
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impressive very impressive very important person we shook hands took a picture and then i had to
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go and do my speeches and then i didn't meet him again for a while and we weren't even dating them
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either but he actually in a way kind of saved me from jail in turkey um he i can't get into the
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details too much because it is like really weird government stuff that was good yeah and this is
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if someone just submitted this they're why are they promoting a whore and a drug addict
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allegedly this is the reputation she has i mean guys i've been on the internet forever
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the only thing they got on me is an ex-boyfriend i had publicly it was a pub and look at i'm not
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perfect something ever comes out i'll just say you know just is what it is but i i can tell you
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you what won't come out drugs whoredom sleeping with destiny yeah that that will not come out
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that no no no no no no I do not I would not I would never risk AIDS anyone that sleeps with
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a bi guy is just stupid going on but he wasn't supposed to come and get me if I got arrested
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he wasn't supposed to because he might sacrifice his security clearance he might you know get in
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trouble himself with with his government jobs and I remember after being arrested by the military
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they handed us over to the gendarme and my security that was with me at that time looked at me and
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he's like we're screwed if we get handed over to the gendarme because they can charge us the
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military couldn't charge us but these people can they bring us in you know at gunpoint in these
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cars this little rickety old station with the light swinging in the ceiling a painting of
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at Turk. And I remember walking in there thinking, wow, I'm probably going to jail for the rest of
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my 20s. And then seeing he wasn't my husband at the time, but my husband waiting there after he
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was supposed to cut and run and leave me and thinking, oh my goodness, what an incredible man.
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And how soon were you married and pregnant?
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And how did she reward him a freaking hit piece?
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It was like we had known each other for like, I guess I'd met him like eight months before
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beforehand. But we only dated for like five months. What did your ex tell you that he was
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looking for in an ideal relationship? So this is something I think about a lot also because I spend
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a lot of time online talking about what I wanted. So if you wanted to date me, you could go look up
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exactly the things I would want to hear. You could go look at my Twitter timeline, my YouTube,
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and he told me oh my gosh guys this is a problem and i'm just gonna say this firsthand
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i never wanted to date somebody that knew my stuff
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it's just too much it's like okay and i've heard other youtubers talk about this
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it's not a fair fight when you know everything about me and i know nothing about you makes me
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so uncomfortable it does i'm like you know because streaming in a way it's like a private
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it's like i know it's public but sometimes it feels private
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i don't like when it's like brought up you know i don't i never liked when to date somebody that
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knew my stuff and there were even times where like someone would tell me they watched and i'm like i
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gotta balance i'm not doing that i didn't care if they were like they'd seen my shorts but if i'm like
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yeah i know this is the yeah now they're saying in the chat i don't know your stuff
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oh my god it's too you just can't salute pearl expose these fake trap 304s thank you
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you everything i wanted to hear i want to have a fan the most public private job ever i know
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it's something you never you never think about emily i want to stay at home but i don't think
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he manipulated her the way she's gonna like paint this i'd like to clarify i just it's almost like
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okay because when you meet someone it's like you share a little they share a little and then all
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of a sudden they have everything I think you know so my wife I want like two to three kids
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I want you know to be the supportive masculine protector husband I want to reconnect with my
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faith and go to church with my wife and just you know and it's hard to meet a lot of men when
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you're like 21 22 that want to get married at that age it's not a it's not a huge no it is that but
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that she deems attractive enough to marry um so candace was smarter than l's and quick marriage
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um well candace didn't as far as what i've heard and i don't know if this is true or not so alleged
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she did what a lot of women do which is like the starter boyfriend for like a decade or something
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a long time that's what so she didn't have a reputation where lauren decided to bang like
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half of the industry. That's going to be an L thing. I mean, a lot of girls that are dating
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right now will know meeting guys on dating apps, whatever, that are actually interested in getting
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married. Not common. And how much older than you was he? Nine years. Okay. Yeah. So he was quite a
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bit older saying. That's not that much older. I feel like if you're 10 years, if the guy's 10
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years older, you're the same age. That's how I feel. This is what I'm looking for. You're the
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perfect match let's do this yeah and it was like to me it was a no-brainer so there was nothing
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weird that he said i mean did he come right out and say i'm looking for a submissive wife did he
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use that language with you so the you see how feminist these hoes are it's just ridiculous
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um the only thing that i would look at and i didn't see it as a red also can you guys hit
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the like button there's a thousand two hundred of you in here let's see how many likes we got
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we got 378 likes are you guys are you guys messing with me are you
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are you are you are we playing a like is free all right please thank you thomas conservative
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sometimes people don't want to date someone who knows what they do and make for a living they want
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to come home and not talk shop even gangsters love a good petting zoo yeah do you know what
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and especially oh my gosh i remember back in the day it would be like oh let me pick your brain i'm
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like i don't want my brain picked on a day you know anyways like then but i would look at it as
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a red flag now that i kind of see the red pill movement coming about is not a movement it's men
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like comparing experiences when he was talking about how him and his friends no longer wanted
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to date western women they wanted to go find a woman overseas who was going to be passport bro
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we want to find a woman overseas who is going to be more submissive and not a feminist and
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that last lauren episode you did a couple weeks ago with some of the most entertaining content
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i've ever heard uh lauren southern glad you're covering this again yeah going to be you know
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thank you and these women they're these remember spiteful women try to ruin your life so i wouldn't
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be surprised some of these women i'll let you know they will go around i've had collabs cancel
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last minute and i find out later it's because some woman is pissed i covered her and they say
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out to work with me and I'm like here we go again now there's 476 likes well there's a thousand of
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you in here I expect 800 oh no oh okay oh a proper feminine woman so it's maybe someone in South
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America now I look at that and you know I get it no one wants to be dating the like hardcore
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feminist I hate men now she's saying well I want all the freedom I want to do whatever I want and
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still be married yeah and a girl that's gonna want to arm wrestle you and never have kids like of
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course like that doesn't make sense but in a lot of ways some of the guys who are saying this
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literally want like a non-human as their wife like a non-person they don't
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sounds pretty nice doesn't it guys want to have to work on conflict resolution
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which it doesn't make any sense to me because to me
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i mean maybe there's some aspect of that or truth to that because of a
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language barrier but also i feel like women from other
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talk back i don't know this idea of like anyone
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else from a non-American culture like they're very submissive and i don't know i don't know that i
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don't believe that either i know i don't get that vibe from any woman that i know that is from
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somewhere else they all seem to be way more you know combative i guess yeah but they're usually
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more feminine i mean they might be feisty but they're like feminine you know none of us ladies
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have none of us scream femininity unfortunately do you hear this i mean i swear like a guy you know
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it's just we're all awkward we're just not like smooth yeah and then the other thing that i mean
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everyone watching this is going to know is i wouldn't normally date a girl your age but
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you're not like other girls you're not you're smarter than the other 20 yeah so now these
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women are aging out and they're getting pissed because the men their age want the 22 year olds
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even though they benefited from it back then yeah but they don't know the thing is when you're 22
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you don't know how to be smart with what you have you just bang who's cute the wall really is when
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you get banged enough times to bang for resources instead of just cute fun vibes that's the wall
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and we're hitting it way earlier you're old girls you know and once again when you're 22 years old
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you're kind of like of course i am i'm the smartest 22 year old that ever existed like
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that's me what a compliment but it's like no i'm just a little more naive what did he say about his
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views on working women did not like them didn't think that was a good which was funny this has
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always been a strange thing about my career is i tend to like more conservative men that
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tend to have these more true you bang destiny and andrew tate additional conservative views
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but then i have a massive career where i'm traveling the world and there's a contradiction
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there. There is a contradiction there. So I'm like, okay, you really like me because of my
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career. You think it's amazing. But then you also dislike working women. You think it's kind of a
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feminist thing. But also, do you really dislike working women? I don't think so. Because when I
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eventually did get married, I was constantly lambasted for not earning money, for being
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useless. Like why you're not contributing enough. And I'm like, whoa, like I thought you wanted this.
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and so having this idea of I bet the real story was she was a lazy housewife a lot of women that
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are housewives just want to be lazy and do nothing uh women in the workforce is bad but then I quit
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my job to get married and be a mother and then suddenly I'm useless and not contributing enough
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financially to the household it's like a lot of I think this is where the trad stuff can have
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reality and online ideology collide is, is it really practical for one person to be supporting
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an entire household nowadays? In a lot of cases, not really. And it can be extraordinarily stressful
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for men to have that burden on their... I'm for women working. I really am. Go be a teacher.
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You might as well help. Lauren is looking a little rough these days. Those
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shoulders. And I think when men face the reality of it, they're kind of like, okay, actually it
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would be really helpful if my wife was still working right now. It would be really helpful
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if you had an income, even if it's just an online job, whatever it is. So it's like kind of trying
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to make a square peg fit into a round hole where it maybe would have been even more beneficial had
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I been the main earner and pursued my career. And then he was kind of supportive in the background
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that might have worked better but because there was this ideology in mind of no this is what a
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marriage is supposed to look like this is what gender roles are supposed to look like it became
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presentation over practicality and that really hurt things in my opinion i think every woman
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a little bit maybe not every single one but definitely me every woman a little bit wants
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to be able to be in her feminine and that's why you were able to talk yourself out of your own
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intuition yes i'm like i need to yeah see these are two women that have taken owls like neither
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of them have hot boyfriends they're just like old harpies that took an owl and can't just accept it
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look at i mean i i've taken my share of owls i'm not pretending to be above it okay i'm not
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but do you know what i'm i will never take an owl and pretend it was like anything other than my own
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choices and decisions you know i'll never talk bad about anyone i've dated really because
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you know you're equally bad if you if you think someone's bad and you dated them like what are you
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um look at these thin forearms no no she wasn't a busy housewife no chance yeah i mean the nails
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like that i want to be vulnerable i want to give my whole heart to someone and part of that means
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not trying to be the boss babe and question him everywhere not trying to fight with him
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accepting who he is trying to forgive radical radical forgiveness and i had really mentally
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decided like this is my person i don't want any other man not interested this is my person and
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I'm going to do my best to love him for who he is but you know a relationship is two people
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it's both ways and both of you have to be looking to improve yourself and grow
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and if one person is under the impression that they're perfect which I find this a lot with
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maybe other girls like men will tell you we don't change after 30. we don't change after 30. this is
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who we're going to be so you either accept it or we can break up and that was a thing that was used
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a lot is um whenever there was kind of a problem that arose yeah she would just nag and that's the
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thing women always want to nag men's behavior but men don't nag our behavior men are just so nice
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like that they really are those he would be like okay well we're gonna break up then and that would
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create this like abandonment complex in me where i was like well that's your own problem though
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like if you can't look i understand at some point we are in the dating marketplace you got to have
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developed some level of detachment and knowing things might not work out otherwise you're going
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to get crushed and eaten alive things either work out or they don't but men want to make
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sure you're not going to crash out if they don't work out this thing that i have given up my career
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for that i am you know this is the person i want to marry this is the person i want to have kids
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with or especially when i was already you know married and pregnant i i can't lose this like i
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have to it got really bad when i was pregnant the okay well we're gonna get divorced so it went from
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me psyching myself out and ignoring red flags to him giving me a recap what did he do he threatened
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to divorce okay maybe you were annoying literal anxiety of abandonment if i ever addressed
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red flags and it no longer felt like I was even in control of my own destiny or my own
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ability to confront reality because confronting reality in some cases of the way he was treating
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me or the decisions being made meant losing the entire idea that I had dedicated my entire
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political existence and ideology to the nuclear family this is what I want I want to be a wife
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i want to be a mother i want to have this for my child as well so if i don't accept the reality
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that he has given me he's going to leave me did he say that he was a christian catholic catholic
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okay yeah which you know a lot of debate around there but that's a whole nother podcast right
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yes okay because i was just curious we went to mass when we were together yeah what were some
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of the ways that he strategically isolated you from your friends and family when you first got
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Okay. So what happens is women, men want to be the king of their castle. They don't want all
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these other people's opinions. So there are times when they may isolate you from your friends or
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your family, but it's just because they're like tired of listening to their opinions because they
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want it to be like their house, not these other people's house. Well, it definitely began with
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like little subtle comments about how everyone in my work sphere was problematic, how I shouldn't
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talk to them and don't get me wrong like there's some accuracy there there's a lot of problematic
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people within the political sphere but it definitely became this thing where I was made to feel like
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every accomplishment that I had made in my life my documentaries all of it was horrible and
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connected to this horrible sphere of people so I can never be proud of it I have to kind of leave
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it behind never engage with it and it was really like the major one came around when I had just
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given birth it was a week after i had had my baby and he accepted a job in australia what i'm hearing
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is she was a lazy piece of shit that just nagged him all the time this guy waited for her in prison
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why would he do that if he was gonna just abandon her after she had a kid come on yeah and he had
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promised one of the things that i was like wow this is an amazing man is he was like i will move
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to canada with you i don't because i told him i can't do a long distance thing and i'm not moving
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to australia i want to be with my family i've been away from them for far too long traveling
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the world doing these films i need to be in canada with my family and he's like fine i have made all
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the preparation she acts like she can disappear for a while and pop back up eight eight months
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later and voila she's brand new and never born again nations to move to canada and to be with
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you there and we will live there grow old their everything and i was like wow i've never met a
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man with such a like sacrificial spirit for love that's incredible but a week after I gave birth
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he accepted a job in Australia without any conversation between us about it and said I
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will divorce you yeah but he's if you don't come to Australia with me well yeah what are you going
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to do a long distance marriage yeah and so he's giving you an out you know you could leave no
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one's putting a gun to your head somewhere where it wasn't even going to be near his family or
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anyone we knew and when you've just had a baby like you need support systems you need people to
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help you out you don't they used to like kidnap you so I mean the old days they would kidnap you
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and get you pregnant adapt bitch it's hard to tell if you have postpartum depression all these
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things there's a lot of factors that mean you need your family and support systems in that space
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did you share with your your friends and family that he was constantly threatening divorce if he
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didn't do what he wanted no I was too nervous too I felt embarrassed I felt ashamed that I was even
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in that position and definitely this is another big thing with the kind of trad sphere and I it's
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just I know so many people that are living this life where they're posting the family photos where
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they're posting the sour bread bake yeah I mean I agree with her here these women are so full of
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shit they're so full of it making we're the happiest family on earth and then you'll have
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these private conversations and like the dead of night where it's all hush hush and it's like
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he told me i should kill myself again he told me he hates me he told me he's seeing another woman
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but okay yeah but i mean you don't even know if that's true you i mean if if the if the statement
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starts with she said i'll take it with a grain of salt if he said it i might believe it but not all
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none of it if you think someone's bad and you dated them what are you pearl davis 8 3 2025
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yeah i mean like if talking bad about your exes is like a cell phone
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especially as a woman because we have so much more choice like men can be like slim pickets
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but as it's like a cell phone you know it's like everyone is so embarrassed of having these real
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or the other way around there are men in these positions too right where their wife is like
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doing something horrible to them and there's so much pressure to keep up appearances because
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otherwise it's like you've failed you have failed at what your life is supposed to be and now you're
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just another one of those degenerates was he saying to you that you should kill yourself
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no no this is this is other women that i know what kinds of things would he say to you when
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you were fighting a lot of your dead weight on my life like you're useless all you are is dead weight
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to me uh well were you dead weight that would be my question alex do a better job let me teach you
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how to grill these hoes you're pathetic like so were you were you perfect you know you're i remember
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like a very specific rant towards me of because every once in a while i'd get a bit of confidence
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i'd be like okay well like if you're gonna abandon us then i i can't control that like you keep
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telling me you're going to abandon us are we sure she didn't get the hurt burp bump from the blue
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haired kumar gremlin i don't know this is just apparently what the ex-husband told rollo tomasi
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i guess i gotta move on and there would be like very specific psychological things like okay
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you think you can move on for me you might find another guy that's better but in most cases you
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might find a guy that's more abusive he might beat you he might be horrible to you you good
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luck with that like i like very like calculated kind of comments to kind of mess me up psychologically
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this is stuff that i you know i got a comment that says looking up and right when she's saying
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certain things which is the visual imagination not memory whenever she does that she's lying
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i can't i can't say where his headspace was i he is someone this poor guy i understand why
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they avoid us influencers that i still love he was my husband right i still love him i can't be in
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contact with him because of the way that he treated me and treated us and also because he abandoned us
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um but there is still like a big how bad did you have to be to get a guy who waited for you in jail
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to abandon you you probably sucked part of me where it's like i don't even recounting these
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stories it's hard for me to recount them or think about them because i try not to like my you know
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know my son's gonna grow up and he's gonna watch this and i want him to know that i loved his dad
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very much sorry it's okay if you're lauren southern's son and you watch this your mom's a crazy
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hoe she didn't love you that much sorry but you're not alone most mothers don't love their kids that
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much oh i don't like crying on the internet but um thanks it's okay take your time there were good
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times like there were good times there were lovely beautiful times camping like going to the zoo all
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this kind of stuff just i think people love the way they know how to love and i think that
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he grew up in a very difficult life and it's not my place to talk about the type of life he had
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and she'll use their trauma against you and just call you damaged forever
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and then see nothing wrong childhood he had but it wasn't an easy one
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and when I recount these stories I actually believe that he felt he was doing better than
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what he grew up with and so as very well could be true right as much as some of it is like it's not
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okay it's not okay to call your wife it's complex to be an abusive relationship I love this person
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I don't love how they treat me. And it's rationalizing that. You get the same thing
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with kids in foster care, is that they are rescued from these horrific situations within their
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family. And yet they'll still ask things like, when do I get to go home? It's very, very complex.
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Yeah. So it's like, I... Alex Clark, you're an idiot. I think you might be the top 10
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dumbest interviewers I've ever seen oh my god she's crying I'm starting to believe her yeah
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I don't know I don't you know I think I've given the idea like you don't call your wife worthless
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you don't lock her out of the house you don't tell someone you're going to divorce them if
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they don't come to another country with you if you've already had a kid like there are so many
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things I could recount there are more detailed things there yeah that's women hold every bad
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thing you've ever done to them in like a um in like a a catalog just to throw at you later
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more horrific things there were crocodile tears beautiful aspects of the relationship that i could
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recount but um yeah i i just also have to keep in mind like my my son's gonna grow up and he's
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gonna watch this stuff one day and i hope his dad heals i do like ultimately despite all of this and
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And I hope he heals and I hope he grows as a person.
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This is why women shouldn't have microphones.
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he did try to email tons of people in my work sphere
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So he really did try to destroy my reputation publicly.
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When you have a book out about, oh my God.
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and he left you he left us and i begged him to have shared custody and he rejected it
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um probably because because he knew you're going to torment him forever so he's like i can't deal
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with this craziness and i don't know why it seemed so unnecessarily cruel i was already
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trying i was living with my parents trying to you know just pick up the pieces of my life and create
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a good life for my child and i didn't understand why the cruelty why he would do this to us how
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long did the marriage last it was only um it was only a few years yeah only two years
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oh my god that's such an l okay well i think that's we're gonna stop it today but you know
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tomorrow because now it's like the trad we might maybe we'll react to more of it later
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um but yeah i mean this is the deal this is what we got going on here uh let me do this
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i'm gonna see if there's any other donations to the docu the divorce documentary um save a man
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from a woman like this donate to my divorce documentary um i feature trad con women oh we
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got it over is that over a hundred wait let me zoom in oh my gosh my laptop is on its last leg
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my new one is coming in over a hundred dollars it um oh my gosh i can't no stop crashing out okay
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well i think someone named will donated a hundred dollars but it's crashing out so i can't it's
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officially frozen i must have ended this at a good time um all right guys let me know
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you guys think um um according a final comment um according to rollo um he rejected it um he didn't
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reject or sorry according to rollo he didn't reject it she refused and the courts gave the
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child to her um according to what the ex-husband said so i don't know if we believe women or men
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here but i know what i would pick anyways guys um if you can donate to the divorce documentary
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the links in the description i think we might clear 40k this month so that's pretty