Pearl - August 03, 2025


Lauren Southern Calls Being a Trad Wives a Scam | Pearl Daily


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1 hour and 22 minutes

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14,453

Sentence Count

366

Misogynist Sentences

112

Hate Speech Sentences

83


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00:00:00.000 Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless.
00:00:05.600 This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
00:00:08.360 Most young men are single.
00:00:10.040 Most young women are not.
00:00:11.380 Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
00:00:16.080 It's a different world now.
00:00:17.100 Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.
00:00:19.120 Nobody needs men.
00:00:20.360 The future is female.
00:00:23.400 Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
00:00:30.000 A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
00:00:33.200 You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.
00:00:35.900 This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
00:00:39.460 You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
00:00:43.560 Marriage is a bond and it's a sacred bond.
00:00:46.180 It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
00:00:49.200 Now many of the red pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
00:00:54.080 Hannah Pearl Davis or just pearly things.
00:00:57.480 One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
00:01:01.460 She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
00:01:04.320 Because if me and you were in a business contract,
00:01:06.520 you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
00:01:09.480 Gee, what could go wrong there?
00:01:11.640 74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
00:01:15.220 Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
00:01:18.120 Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
00:01:20.780 I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
00:01:25.640 Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
00:01:28.980 You need no evidence.
00:01:30.120 When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for.
00:01:33.820 And you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
00:01:37.140 I interviewed them on the other side.
00:01:39.700 I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
00:01:41.980 How much did you spend trying to get him back?
00:01:44.120 The legal fees alone was about $200,000.
00:01:46.460 Before you know it, you're homeless.
00:01:47.920 You're literally just thrown out onto the street.
00:01:49.800 We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
00:01:52.260 Wives are taught to leave their husbands.
00:01:53.940 and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
00:01:56.400 Family is the foundation of society.
00:01:58.180 Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
00:02:01.280 A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole
00:02:03.880 of happiness, endless happiness.
00:02:05.560 Feminism's biggest failure is in lives to women.
00:02:07.620 We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
00:02:09.420 We tell them to put off family into marriage.
00:02:11.260 You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.
00:02:13.920 You are allowed to end a relationship
00:02:16.460 with a really great boyfriend.
00:02:18.400 Oh, freeze your eggs, have an abortion.
00:02:20.240 What? You're evil.
00:02:21.460 I don't think there's anything else in life
00:02:22.800 that we actually ever go into preparing to fail right like if you have the mentality of this is
00:02:27.360 going to go wrong and be pessimistic naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to
00:02:31.440 fail anyway it's self-sabotage that's the thing like women are so willing to leave marriages
00:02:35.660 because they're not happy this is not about happiness the most important thing is the
00:02:40.220 children and the problem is we have a modern society where it's me me me my feelings leave
00:02:45.680 when i feel like it instead of doing what's best for the kids this myth that we live in an age of
00:02:51.780 male privilege. Where's my male privilege? They think, well, men have all the rights. They have
00:02:55.140 all the power. Privileged patriarchal system that we have. Why doesn't our society care about men's
00:03:00.400 rights? I have no friends, no white, and no socialized. Men are alone in this situation.
00:03:06.200 Men are homeless. Men are thinking about eating guns. I've seen so many men on the brink of
00:03:11.140 suicide, and they didn't do anything wrong. How are you equal if the men are the ones that have
00:03:16.560 to fight and die to defend the country? The men are the ones that build and maintain all the
00:03:21.480 infrastructure women are helplessly dependent upon men the so-called deaths of despair from
00:03:27.140 suicide overdose to alcohol three times higher among men than among women culture is telling
00:03:33.060 men you are no good you got to get your act together i think men have failed themselves
00:03:36.860 what kind of a man are you what kind of a woman are you going to attract if men are in trouble
00:03:41.720 so are women everybody knows this is a huge problem but nobody wants to admit it every
00:03:46.880 single woman at the table said they wanted a man 500k 500k 300k 200k
00:03:51.300 Am I crazy?
00:03:52.060 Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
00:03:54.360 If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
00:03:57.940 So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
00:04:01.820 Women.
00:04:03.320 I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
00:04:05.460 I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
00:04:07.720 I'm over it.
00:04:08.880 When is it going to be my turn?
00:04:10.180 Where are we meeting the men that don't stop?
00:04:11.940 I can't keep having these same conversations.
00:04:14.720 The only simp here is you, Pearl.
00:04:16.000 You simp for men.
00:04:16.420 No, I think you simp for women.
00:04:18.040 She's a provocateur.
00:04:19.000 She says stupid stuff.
00:04:20.080 But Pearl is right about this.
00:04:21.460 It's already happening.
00:04:22.600 It's just not out in the open yet.
00:04:24.060 Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband.
00:04:29.720 The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
00:04:33.980 We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.
00:04:38.020 Civilization will crumble.
00:04:39.620 The American story does not end well.
00:04:42.180 This is an existential crisis failing young men.
00:04:50.080 what up guys welcome to another episode of pearl daily here on the audacity network thank you guys
00:04:55.360 so much for tuning in um today we are going to be talking about lauren southern's divorce when
00:05:03.160 crazy women take ls they can't handle it but i first wanted to say thank you to everybody that's
00:05:09.280 donated to this divorce documentary it's um with the donations that we're really able to do what
00:05:15.440 can do here at the audacity network um we are trying to raise a hundred thousand dollars for
00:05:20.480 this divorce documentary and i'm gonna read uh the hold on the people that donated but i gotta verify
00:05:28.480 they gotta make sure this is me do you know what this two factor has really messed me up the last
00:05:34.320 few weeks uh because i don't know what it is my technology is just my technology has been failing
00:05:41.280 me okay it's been failing me I don't know how my computer the screen is broken so right now I have
00:05:48.240 to use a monitor below this I can't even look I have to look here because this screen does not
00:05:53.060 work this screen also crashed and my phone crashed well my other phone and I'm doing this like two
00:06:01.200 factor thing oh my I just don't know how this all happens in the same week because have you guys
00:06:06.780 ever had a technology week like that before the show i thought that monitor crashed too and i was
00:06:13.180 like i don't know what it is this week um but it is because of the men and women that donate to
00:06:19.640 this divorce documentary that it will be made possible um thank you to daniel for the donation
00:06:26.940 maxine wayne john i just do first names oh two hundred dollar donation from bradford anonymous
00:06:33.920 john rich eddie um thank you those are the donations from the last few days we're at 36
00:06:40.160 thousand three hundred and twenty dollars um we'd really like to get to a hundred thousand dollars
00:06:44.140 this year the reason is um i'd like to hire a documentary team and um i'd like to have like
00:06:51.960 six months to a year of their stuff so we can start and fit you know but anyways all right
00:06:57.660 so today we're going to be reacting to Lauren Southern, um, and a female enabler. So for some
00:07:05.380 reason, um, and what was her name? Let me get in this thing. For some reason, when we take L's
00:07:12.360 as women, we just like cannot handle it. I don't know what it is. Do you know what? Like there's
00:07:17.860 been times in life where I've taken an L, you know, you get screamed at, you get fired, you get
00:07:23.880 whatever. And it's just, it's just, it's just a sad day. Oh, Alex Clark. That's it. And
00:07:33.320 but some reason women have to like rationalize their L's. They can't just accept it. You can't
00:07:47.380 just say, do you know what? I failed in this capacity. I'm a failure. I'm a loser. You know
00:07:52.260 what i mean that's really difficult for us um so today i'm going to be reacting to lauren southern
00:07:57.540 um calling trad wifing being a scam but before i do i think we could have some fun and go through
00:08:04.380 my tweets uh my retweets the last like day or so and i like to explain because if any of you
00:08:10.700 follow me on twitter it's pearly things with a z sometimes my thoughts aren't the most well
00:08:16.380 thought out so it might be kind of a little fun segment to start the day and we'll just go
00:08:20.060 sorry not well thought out they're not well explained they're not well explained to the
00:08:25.580 general public um this clip of nick is going viral it's always a calculated risk when i play
00:08:33.760 him i think i could play him though i think this could be a cool i think it'll be all right oh thank
00:08:40.160 you to the super chat i'm doing this on my phone i had to buy a new computer it comes tuesday
00:08:45.440 post-plandemic chronicles thank you so if you want doug mpa i'll let you decide i'll default
00:08:52.940 to a man can i play a viral clip of of nick or do i need to not i'll let doug mpa he can
00:09:01.560 he can lay down the hammer or not it's going by it's really good it's really good i think a lot
00:09:09.660 of people would relate to it oh now you guys are having std nightmares because of std friday you
00:09:16.500 know yeah go for it doug mpa gave me doug mpa i think doug mpa's main job is to keep me monetized
00:09:26.040 i just go off the handle i'm like let me say this this and that
00:09:31.140 but you know the last few years i've explained i've had to kind of put my life on hold um
00:09:36.820 you know i've had a lot of people step in to help me which i really appreciate um but
00:09:44.000 i kind of anyways i need to stay on this track
00:09:50.220 i need to and you know what today i am actually feeling so good today i'm just in a good mood
00:09:57.780 play the clip can you can you let me I kind of want to react to hit pieces because I think you
00:10:11.280 guys would find it entertaining and there's some people I said nothing about that I want to give
00:10:17.000 my two cents three years later because I didn't let it go I didn't I didn't screw you all right
00:10:23.500 let me let me watch nick's clip he's so talented i'm sorry he i could see why conservatives hate
00:10:30.760 him i really do because that man is one of the most talented entertainers i've seen in my life
00:10:37.580 he has a way of words uh yeah i'm being accused of being the cia okay so let me let me give the
00:10:44.320 preface so we we reacted to nick and candace um going at it right they they went at it on youtube
00:10:52.620 and um they they did an interview and nick um and candace came for nick and candace owens i
00:11:01.260 actually need to i i should go a little a little bit more uh let me let me get the other clip
00:11:07.400 make sure my screen down because i don't know what's going to come up
00:11:10.700 um but you know candace owens tucker carlson
00:11:22.620 let's see let me get this um all right so there is a part where um candace that's a fascinating
00:11:36.040 observation candace talks about nick so they're talking trash about that has never occurred to me
00:11:41.380 that the theater kids have taken like literally the literal theater kids
00:11:45.520 ah that's just here's your next role you're going to be president speaking of theater i i just
00:11:51.480 hesitate even to ask this but um since because i i mean it just opens up all this stuff i want to
00:11:56.820 deal with but you just interviewed nick one he's gonna regret asking this he's gonna regret asking
00:12:04.060 this because nick torched him torched does i did or had a conversation with him what did you think
00:12:11.940 of that what do you think of him i mean i can tell you my experience is was entirely fraudulent with
00:12:18.640 him i i never interview people as a gotcha interview it's always so that's female gaslighting
00:12:24.740 okay that is female gaslighting it's it's called g-a-s-l-i-g-h-t-i-n-g when she did the thing
00:12:34.900 she's saying she didn't do and it was very obvious to everyone that watched and then pretend she
00:12:41.020 didn't do it and again i really used to love i used to love candace owens um i i i used to love
00:12:51.160 her stuff but ever since she turned on crowder i just can't i i can't unsee it and i don't care
00:12:58.380 how many simps in the comments when she gives an apology remember she did an evil thing this is
00:13:05.300 evil evil she called a man an abusive monster that is a terrible thing to do
00:13:11.460 and now she quietly takes down the video and expects me to forget when is the apology
00:13:16.900 and it just it makes me so mad you're grifting my religion and you're calling a man an abuser
00:13:22.340 screw you screw you i want a public apology that is to steven in person off camera and as loud
00:13:30.060 as the video you made a lot of money on pro my channel is demonetized I'm not given the option
00:13:35.840 to reapply to make a five minute video and no exact date to be able to reapply can I be
00:13:41.740 monetized again it's not looking good for you it's not looking great for you it's really not
00:13:51.160 Um, I've just got to be honest.
00:13:59.280 Just that he, he was making the rounds.
00:14:01.580 He's been around for a while and kind of his story when I learned it because he was banned
00:14:06.200 from everywhere.
00:14:06.640 So I didn't actually know what the backstory was with Nick Fuentes.
00:14:08.940 But then I learned it when he was allowed back on X and Jeremy Boring.
00:14:13.080 Now, I don't believe that she didn't know who he was.
00:14:15.660 I don't believe that.
00:14:17.840 I didn't know who this guy was.
00:14:21.160 and you could tell because i'm like what's that what's the i don't i don't want to say
00:14:25.980 the organizations because guys guys i love all people i am not going at anybody i love everybody
00:14:33.100 um okay anyways then the ceo of daily wire did this ex live with him uh and jeremy boring did
00:14:41.520 an event with nick fuentes it was honestly it was weird everything was weird about what happened
00:14:46.700 but it happened. And Nick told his story and I was listening in and said essentially that he
00:14:52.020 was canceled because he started asking questions about Israel. He was 18 years old and he alleged
00:14:57.140 that it was very much the fault of the Daily Wire or whatever he said. And I found it very
00:15:01.480 interesting. And I was like, oh, I actually didn't know this was the backstory. Maybe this really is
00:15:04.880 a person who had just ahead of everybody else was questioning Israel and had like a bad hand given
00:15:10.440 to him so i had him on the show welcomed him into my home and he was very nice we told him we're
00:15:17.780 gonna cut you know a controversial trailer we're gonna show you like these clips of you talking
00:15:23.580 trash about me and you can talk about whatever you want for as long as you want ask any questions
00:15:27.520 you want to ask it went great he left he said thanks we can now be friends and i am not kidding
00:15:35.880 we published this 11 days later and he it was I don't even know how to he just starts screaming
00:15:42.800 calling me and so that's another thing women again women hate masculinity and they subtly
00:15:48.380 shame masculinity so now she's thinking oh he was screaming Nick's not a yeller look at
00:15:53.280 I know men that are yellers I do I know them
00:15:59.320 i've dated a particular
00:16:04.680 ah there's things i want to say so bad but i can't the patriarchy has been novel it okay okay
00:16:14.060 thank you for the super chat um but i look at nick is not a guy that's gonna scream at you
00:16:21.100 he's not effing b-i-t-c-h who set him up we didn't edit a single thing those 11 days like
00:16:30.300 two weeks before we even published the interview we told him if there's anything that he wanted us
00:16:33.640 to insert like nobody does that if you go on their show yes and i don't know what i genuinely don't
00:16:38.340 know what triggered him other than me at the very end asking him about like or talking about family
00:16:42.640 yeah but so this is this is the thing with women they're so unlikable they don't know why people
00:16:47.960 are reacting to that look i know my flaws you guys you guys have been very very open about my
00:16:56.100 flaws all right i don't always think things through um i'm a modern woman
00:17:06.340 i can be hypocritical i know um i talk too much i'm loud and if i put somebody off if i'm being
00:17:17.360 honest i understand i can't be everybody's cup of tea i really can't um i can't so you know women
00:17:29.620 what happens is they go through life and candace is like a pretty black girl her whole life she's
00:17:33.840 been cute but now she's getting old and she's not going to be able to get away with the stuff
00:17:38.480 that she used to get away with i was chubby all right i was kind of fat when i was younger
00:17:43.480 i never got to get away with that all right i always had hotter fronts i've just i got away
00:17:50.360 with stuff too right but this is my point so now people aren't gonna they're not gonna do what they
00:17:57.400 used to do because she's a woman now she's not a girl she's a woman so now what's gonna what's
00:18:04.880 gonna happen is she's gonna have woman consequences and yeah and that now she's not gonna be used to
00:18:11.280 it. And now, so when she's a bitch and people respond, she's just going to gaslight them
00:18:17.820 because that was a gotcha interview. And it was, it was just the rage that was coming out of him
00:18:22.660 was just weird. And I don't know why he did that. I don't know why he did a 180. You had access to
00:18:27.120 me. You could have said anything after you, even if he had said in good faith, I thought I sounded
00:18:31.820 a little weird here. Could you cut it out? We probably would have cut it out because I just
00:18:34.040 don't want people to ever not have a good experience. You know what I'm saying? You want
00:18:38.300 people well this i'll speak for myself when i invite someone on especially just to hear their
00:18:42.860 views i want them to be able to express what they actually think right exactly and you decide what
00:18:47.980 you think and you decide how to express it i mean that's like a basic human right kind of and so
00:18:52.940 um i'm not here to trip you up into saying something you don't mean i want to hear what you
00:18:56.940 now now this is what women women go into men's spaces and expect to be treated like women so
00:19:03.260 she's saying well you didn't give me the courtesy you didn't give me the basic decency why don't you
00:19:07.500 talk off screen yeah and i had to learn this i had to learn um this too you know i'm not gonna name
00:19:17.180 names i'm not gonna name names but you know um i'm not gonna you know you can't and i'm not gonna go
00:19:32.700 there but you can't demand that you're treated like a woman in a man's world this is work this
00:19:38.780 is business honey so yeah if you want to do a live stream responding
00:19:49.820 and you're saying you can't respond to our debate because
00:19:56.540 and i didn't really think she was he was mean about it either was the other thing
00:20:00.540 you mean yeah exactly and he told the story he did all that and apparently then and i i don't
00:20:06.240 know if it was driven by insecurity he didn't know how that's the next thing women do you're insecure
00:20:11.180 you're insecure his followers would take the interview but he just did a complete 180
00:20:19.060 lied to his audience pretended that he was surprised he was behind a paywall we spoke
00:20:23.120 about him and how we were going to release it he said great i mean it's a totally total 180 flip
00:20:27.760 so i can now say that i didn't listen to other people say that nick was a bad person i didn't
00:20:31.680 care about what happened when he was 18 19 20 26 i sat across from a person had a conversation with
00:20:36.640 him so now she's going towards reputation destruction you're a bad person you're a bad
00:20:43.280 person and then it's posturing right i'm moral he's immoral yada yada paved one way in person
00:20:49.440 and then put on a show for the internet so i actually can say my experience with nick fuentes
00:20:54.240 is that he's a terrible person and a terrible human being because why would you do that there's
00:20:56.720 no reason to do that like did he commit a crime and see this is the thing women use simps to
00:21:01.200 destroy men's reputation he didn't commit a crime he said words she doesn't like
00:21:08.960 and that's the thing women have to police speech because what happened really is nick embarrassed
00:21:13.840 her because he cooked her oh my god he cooked her for two hours straight it was so funny
00:21:18.720 um and she doesn't really like getting cooked because you know because she's a feminist i'm
00:21:26.980 a feminist we're all feminists all of us all of us um but the difference is she's built her brand
00:21:33.780 like you know off of being a good person and you got to be honest that you're not yeah you could
00:21:41.140 have come back onto the show you could have had beginning of us discussing various topics
00:21:46.120 I think in many ways, whatever happened to him when he was 18 may have stunted.
00:21:51.800 I hope this helps our pearl. Keep up the good work. Breakfast in Ireland. Thank you, Maxie.
00:21:56.640 Thank you.
00:21:57.200 His growth, meaning that he now is responding to the internet, which is filled with people
00:22:02.780 that don't even use their real names. Right. So, so really, truly the irony of it all is you could
00:22:08.280 just be like the IDF soldiers, just pretending to be his supporters, just getting him to say
00:22:11.940 whatever you want, because he's going to do whatever you say.
00:22:13.460 now they're jealous they're so jealous of him because he has a cult following he really does
00:22:18.660 so many people know who he is that he he has more star power without all of these platforms than all
00:22:25.620 these people that's why they hate crowder too crowder has more star power than them he does
00:22:31.780 no ifs hands or butts hey but it was strange it was totally strange it made no sense and i just
00:22:37.460 have a family or a normal life i asked him about that he said yeah it comes from a two-parent
00:22:41.700 household. Does he have his own family? Does he? No, no. Now they're going to moralize, right? So
00:22:47.700 now I'm better than you because I have children. They all, you, and I thought Tucker Carlson
00:22:53.900 doesn't usually do this, but they all use their kids and their husband for clout. If you're a
00:22:58.940 good person, I need, I should be able to see you're a good person by your actions. Why do
00:23:04.240 you need to bring up your kids to morally posture that you're a good person? You know, if you're a
00:23:10.680 bad person you're just a bad person with a kid do you know what I mean or like and I don't care if
00:23:15.360 you're good or bad I mean shit I I suck in a lot of ways but you know my my point is um yeah he's
00:23:24.140 not married and and I just offered to him I was like yeah no I think these are things that you
00:23:27.700 learn when you're married and he just was no yeah so here she was nagging him about being married
00:23:35.300 and look at this is her face when women when conservative women are told they're out of order
00:23:43.360 you know that's not really it's not it's really not your place to tell a man what to do and oh
00:23:51.340 my gosh on twitter she's going crazy right now oh my gosh i mean uh doug mpa could you get the
00:23:57.300 there's like a a video if you could find it of the back and forth between nick and candace and
00:24:03.320 It's so funny.
00:24:04.420 I'm just about it.
00:24:05.220 And, you know, women don't tell me what to do or whatever it was.
00:24:09.420 And it was very performative.
00:24:10.880 Like I said, the exact same thing to Andrew Tate months earlier.
00:24:13.980 I had him and I said, you should get married.
00:24:15.680 Here's why.
00:24:16.300 And of course, Andrew Tate did not react like that.
00:24:17.800 He told me what his hangups were about marriage.
00:24:19.420 It was just a part of two people communicating on a show.
00:24:21.460 But for whatever reason, like.
00:24:22.880 Yeah, because because again, she's gone through life.
00:24:26.660 And this is the thing.
00:24:27.740 alphas sorry nick alphas tend to like be charming with women so they've kind of trained themselves
00:24:34.860 to just say uh-huh and like whisper sweet nothings to women when they say stuff that's
00:24:40.840 disrespectful where the more the guys that don't really date no offense and they tend to just say
00:24:48.500 what they think but that doesn't really get them laid do you know i mean they just they just say
00:24:52.740 like in general you know um but the guys that are like and some guys just can't do it they're like
00:24:58.980 i just i can't but so she's used to dealing with these high level men that you know they've trained
00:25:05.140 themselves to shut up when women do things that are rude it was he saw this as like an attack
00:25:11.940 even though interesting yeah it was weird it was totally tender spot well okay has it occurred to
00:25:17.620 you that and i just want to say i haven't watched a lot of nick fuentes in my life at all
00:25:22.740 um but what i've seen the guy's very talented like just as a as a well let me just say this
00:25:29.700 as someone who's talked to cameras his whole life it is very hard to sit and just like riff
00:25:36.420 for 20 minutes and i just i think it's an amazing skill and he has that skill
00:25:41.540 but i also have noticed um that his targets are all people who are sincere non-crazy
00:25:50.260 okay so now they're they're yeah okay so they had a back and forth on twitter if we go if we find it
00:25:57.780 we'll do it but this was one of the best clips i've seen of him this was a beautiful clip it's
00:26:04.340 going viral yeah so i just thought it was yeah i peter teal's best boys wait here by tuck i'm being
00:26:13.300 accused of being the CIA by Peter Thiel's best boys? By Tucker Carlson with his daddy? Tucker
00:26:21.000 Carlson's, and you know what? Here's the other thing. Tucker Carlson said, I'm a weird gay kid
00:26:27.080 in the basement. Yeah. And I'm from Chicago. You're right. Well, okay. You're not right about
00:26:34.100 all of that, but I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth. Tucker Carlson says, I have
00:26:40.180 so many trust funds, I never have to work. Tucker went to a $45,000 per year private high school,
00:26:47.960 then a $45,000 per year selective Ivy League school in New England. Tucker Carlson's daddy
00:26:55.500 was a Reagan appointee. And then after years of bragging about being an elite, bragging about
00:27:03.600 being so out of touch and so rich, now he's going to be the spokesperson for all the white people.
00:27:09.100 now he's going to roll up his sleeves i just like to hunt fish in my log cabin i care about
00:27:14.780 clarna and credit card debt but then when it comes to me i'm one of the real disaffected white people
00:27:22.640 you want to talk about me and them i am them he says nick fuentes is leading all the disaffected
00:27:30.360 young white men i am a disaffected white young white man i was a precocious intelligent young
00:27:36.800 white college student who went to Boston University, who was pro-Trump and red-pilled
00:27:42.260 by Trump and animated by Trump's message of America first. And I asked questions about Israel
00:27:47.480 and I was punished for it. I did it years before Tucker Carlson started talking about Israel last
00:27:54.060 year. And I sacrificed and I was targeted by the ADL, by the SPLC, by the federal government,
00:28:02.140 by the conservative movement that both Candace and Tucker were a part of.
00:28:06.800 Candace and Tucker had nothing to say about Israel until it became unavoidable last year,
00:28:12.260 not popular, but unavoidable. And now they want to gatekeep me out and do this personality attack
00:28:19.160 and say, I'm a bitter loser in my basement from Chicago. I'm a kid from Chicago. And they slipped
00:28:26.760 up there because they forgot for one second that they're pretending to be the spokesperson for
00:28:32.260 exactly that kind of person. Tucker's mask slipped, and he forgot for a minute that for
00:28:37.880 eight years, he's been pretending to care about the plight of weird kids in their parents' basement
00:28:43.880 who are broke and didn't go to an Ivy League school, living in cities that don't matter like
00:28:48.980 Chicago, not like Washington, D.C. or L.A. or New York. And that's why he had such disdain and
00:28:55.180 contempt for me in that moment. Between the personality attacks, he's lonely. He's weird.
00:29:01.540 He lives in a basement. I'm sorry. Did you guys forget that that's your target audience that
00:29:06.980 you're trying to pander to? Did you forget that for two seconds? And I'm the inauthentic person.
00:29:14.300 I am that person. I am a spokesman for the disaffected white man because I am one. And
00:29:21.460 you two are not. Candace Owens got married to British royalty worth $200 million after meeting
00:29:28.520 him for two weeks on Zoom. What the fuck is even that about? And Tucker Carlson's dad ran the CIA's
00:29:35.800 propaganda empire fighting the Soviet Union. He went and fought with the Contras when he was in
00:29:41.100 college. When I was in college, I was doing a webcam show in my friend's dorm room criticizing
00:29:47.360 Israel. So who's the CIA cutout? Who's the inauthentic one? Who's the crazy hateful one?
00:29:54.380 i would never describe a well-meaning young white person who's trying to get ahead as a weird kid
00:30:02.280 in his basement from chicago and what is that supposed to mean what is wrong with being from
00:30:07.260 chicago what is wrong with being weird what is wrong with living in your basement
00:30:11.700 that's a lot of people because of the problems you claim to care about
00:30:16.900 tucker's at turning point usa extolling the predatory nature of usury and how it's preventing
00:30:25.780 young white men from getting homes and then the week after says you're in your mom's basement
00:30:30.760 so which is it so which is he's cooking oh my god he's cooking it do you care about clarna
00:30:41.100 and people going into debt to order pizzas
00:30:43.940 and home ownership being impossible?
00:30:47.380 Or do you think that's a contemptible,
00:30:49.980 low status thing to be ridiculed and mocked?
00:30:55.060 Who's pandering here exactly?
00:30:57.380 Because that wasn't you.
00:30:58.720 You were born to the Swanson family fortune
00:31:01.780 and your daddy who ran the CIA.
00:31:05.480 You know, my dad didn't even graduate college.
00:31:07.940 My dad worked for the tollway.
00:31:11.100 His dad died of a drug overdose in the 70s.
00:31:13.920 My mother's father was a garbage man in Chicago, and he committed suicide.
00:31:19.420 He was a veteran of World War II.
00:31:21.940 Who's the CIA cutout?
00:31:23.600 Who's the poser?
00:31:24.760 Who is America?
00:31:26.840 I am America.
00:31:28.300 Chicago is America.
00:31:29.840 That's an American story.
00:31:31.540 I didn't go to Yale Law School and suck Peter Thiel's dick and then get a sinecure at a venture capital firm advising Rebecca Mercer.
00:31:40.040 and writing hillbilly elegy and talking about it at the aspen institute that's your biographical
00:31:46.880 credibility how many of these disaffected white people that love trump because he's racist
00:31:52.800 went to yale law school and got plucked out by peter teal whoever he even is peter teal with
00:31:59.420 his fixation with the antichrist this homosexual who's involved with the cia
00:32:04.920 wants to live forever and govern the world with AI. Yeah, that's really relatable. That's really
00:32:12.420 relatable. Do another show with him and Curtis Yarvin. Do another show. Do the 47th show with
00:32:18.880 J.D. Vance. It's it is insulting and it is insulting to everybody's intelligence for Tucker
00:32:26.880 to sit there and say he doesn't know his dad is in the CIA for him to say that I'm in the CIA.
00:32:32.480 what a joke what a sick joke especially after everything that's happened to me and unlike what
00:32:41.140 Candace Owens says she says what happened to him when he was 18 what happened to me is ongoing
00:32:47.320 okay unlike Candace Owens and Tucker I never got a contract with Ben Shapiro and Rupert Murdoch
00:32:54.740 and that's the thing women enter industries and turn on them later when should I turn I'm getting
00:33:01.400 close to 30 do i need to do i need to start turning on you guys sorry i'm kidding i was on
00:33:08.640 maker support i was on patreon i was on d live i had to fight for everything i have i didn't get
00:33:17.000 a million dollar contract from turning point i didn't get 20 million dollars from fox news
00:33:21.660 my daddy didn't get me a job in arkansas
00:33:24.100 so ridiculous
00:33:31.380 yeah i'm being accused of being this um
00:33:37.440 yeah i mean he's talented and he just cooked them he cooked them to oblivion
00:33:44.480 um doug mpa what was there another clip on the last tab of the document okay i'll check
00:33:50.300 uh one hour 55 minutes
00:33:53.840 of what
00:33:56.800 the link you said is a twitter thing
00:34:01.300 oh candid let's see this one
00:34:06.660 oh no that's not the one we reacted to that one that's not the one i was trying to find
00:34:14.640 uh it was like
00:34:20.300 All right, because we did that one before.
00:34:26.440 Oh, okay.
00:34:27.460 This one was pretty funny.
00:34:29.000 Okay, this one.
00:34:30.960 Okay, Nick said,
00:34:33.520 why is Candace trying to rehabilitate Harvey Weinstein?
00:34:36.640 She flamed out of the Daily Wire
00:34:38.120 for taking a stand against Israel,
00:34:40.180 but now she uses her platform
00:34:41.740 to defend a Democrat pervert
00:34:43.540 with ties to Israeli intelligence.
00:34:46.240 I don't know.
00:34:46.760 Didn't you say I was likely funded by Russia
00:34:48.820 through the Tate brothers?
00:34:49.740 can't lie it was definitely putin that made me tell you marriage was aspirational vladimir hit
00:34:54.540 me up on whatsapp to do the most random things lol so your answer is i don't know i'm not the
00:35:00.700 one wondering why you would use your platform to rehabilitate a massad connected democrat pervert
00:35:07.420 but just last week i was tagged in a clip of you claiming it was russia that was backing me
00:35:12.060 did you think it was the massad now the israeli says it's qatar funding me at this point so i
00:35:17.020 i don't really know nick everyone is wondering why you crashed out on your boss ben shapiro just
00:35:22.300 so you could rehabilitate a degenerate zionist like weinstein but after your little frankest
00:35:27.320 stunt last year it's just a little bit suspicious to everyone thank you candace says can you imagine
00:35:35.160 like you're like mom can we can we play it's just i'm busy tweeting and nick um i think the best way
00:35:42.780 for you to handle this is to post a clip screaming I'm a real man again and refer to me as a bitch a
00:35:49.540 few more times to really prove because if a man isn't calling a woman a stupid bitch is he a real
00:35:54.220 man I think not this is the way so now it just goes back to I hate these type of women they're
00:36:00.540 such downers do you know what like I I have a potty mouth okay wait are the people in conservative
00:36:09.900 media don't understand that every young white man is filled with contempt and despises the
00:36:13.900 current system and wants it gone but it's just like who are you candace to tell nick that he's
00:36:22.380 not a real man and then nick says why don't you put your phone down and go make me a sandwich
00:36:30.700 the one um and then once you've calmed down and collected yourself explain why you were
00:36:35.260 trying to help harvey weinstein and convince us that the frankists are not the jews
00:36:39.900 I'm literally shaking right now. However, will I survive to being being told to go make a sandwich?
00:36:45.600 You're really, really, really setting an example for real men everywhere.
00:36:49.720 I'm trying my best to calm down and collect myself, but I'm a woman. So give me time.
00:36:54.700 You're setting an example for real men. Take all the time you need. Turkey, provolone, lettuce and tomato, please.
00:37:01.040 Easy mayo. Thanks, hon. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. Everyone can see that you are totally not a raging bitch.
00:37:07.420 the thing is i'm just not myself when i'm hungry that's why i need a sandwich
00:37:11.440 is this from a snickers commercial so good keep going it is funny that's why she's gaslighting
00:37:17.360 she's trying to gaslight and say it's not funny but she's getting cooked on the timeline this is
00:37:21.960 so funny true you seem unbothered right now i'm i'm not trying to annihilate you i just want you
00:37:30.740 i just want to know why you keep pushing harvey weinstein and the frank casadas but you're being
00:37:35.140 weirdly defensive sometimes annihilation is the only day way thanos do what must be done
00:37:40.760 are you okay
00:37:43.400 it's so funny okay yeah but you know i think my twitter i kind of like this twitter series where
00:37:54.580 i could go through my retweets my tweets um so i said women will go to the ends of the earth to
00:38:01.860 ruin your life with a smile on your face and this is because I've just had women do that to me
00:38:09.660 and they think it's funny they'll like get you fired and they think it's funny they'll like
00:38:17.340 yeah they'll like get like one woman caused me to fire 20 people
00:38:27.300 one woman one and all the beta males that she got to help her and um
00:38:36.500 no remorse none they don't care
00:38:40.980 i said um oh i i did show my my cookie i made last night i made this with coconut oil
00:38:49.540 and it was actually pretty good i did coconut oil instead of butter you're curious all right
00:38:56.720 but we can get into the topic today.
00:38:58.320 We can, I said,
00:39:00.820 I decided I want the birth rate to drop to zero
00:39:03.520 and I want it because maybe then they'll be like,
00:39:07.920 maybe we should change family court.
00:39:12.500 I said marriage benefits beta males the most
00:39:15.480 and marriage is for beta males to get sexual access.
00:39:18.600 They were pretty pissed about that.
00:39:20.780 But it's true because without marriage,
00:39:23.140 women would just be with alphas.
00:39:24.320 So they're like, we need to spread out the women because otherwise these betas are going to attack me.
00:39:33.140 And then how do I contact you?
00:39:34.920 You can book a session with me on my website.
00:39:39.560 So it's on the audacitynetwork.com.
00:39:42.720 All right.
00:39:43.540 Or, I mean, if you have something to pitch, you can do my Instagram, just pearlythings1, pearlythings on Twitter with a Z.
00:39:49.400 all right but now let's let's get to the main topic today which is um
00:39:54.760 which is the the trad uh the face of the trad wives um
00:40:02.020 so basically lauren southern recently put out a book
00:40:07.460 and i didn't read it because i just have better things to do um but basically but i will do you
00:40:15.960 know what, if you guys pay me enough, I might do it. But I just think we all got better things to
00:40:20.480 do with our time. But I will cook her today. So I want to show you what happens is the sisterhood's
00:40:25.560 always real. So even women that say they're conservative. So this is Alex Clark. And she's
00:40:32.220 assisting Lauren Southern and accusing all of the right of rape when she was really just being a
00:40:38.460 whore. So, yeah. I think the majority of women in the trad wife space are having massive problems
00:40:46.720 in their relationship that they will never talk about publicly. Are we talking about online
00:40:51.500 influencers in the trad wife space? Yes. Yes. Conservative space? Yes. Some have speculated
00:40:57.220 that your ex was a Romeo spy. Is there any possibility that that could be true?
00:41:03.700 I don't like crying on the internet, but my son's going to grow up. He's going to watch this and I
00:41:07.460 want him to know that I loved his dad very much I think the one reason I don't remain tortured by
00:41:13.820 this relationship is because I gave it everything within a thousand times of him saying I'm going
00:41:20.140 to divorce you a thousand times I said I'm not giving up on you and the worst part is it's funded
00:41:31.440 by men so turning point USA that's the thing men they often get what they deserve because it's like
00:41:37.320 they just they go to the ends of the earth to destroy men
00:41:42.520 ideal image of marriage and family lacks the nuance and complexity of real life
00:41:49.140 that is the story of what happened to her a trad wife fairy tale turned into a nightmare
00:41:54.460 this interview is a beautiful multi-camera shot episode on the real alex clark youtube channel
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00:42:20.040 Southern, a Canadian journalist, documentary filmmaker, YouTube firebrand, author, mother,
00:42:26.280 and survivor. This is Culture Apothecary with Alex Clark.
00:42:30.520 Lauren Southern, you've had one of the most compelling careers in the conservative media
00:42:39.100 space, but are the rumors true that you're a feminist now?
00:42:41.960 If I call myself that, I will.
00:42:43.880 And now it's crashed.
00:42:45.960 Now your career's over.
00:42:50.320 Alex, I can't tell if this girl's just stupid or what.
00:42:54.680 I have accusations made against me that do not apply and expectations I cannot fulfill.
00:42:59.560 so I'm going to avoid that one like the plague. I plead the fifth.
00:43:03.000 Well, talk a little bit about the environment that you grew up in, the belief system that
00:43:07.780 you grew up in in your family, and how you ended up being. I would say that you are one of the
00:43:13.020 first major content creators in the conservative, independent media space.
00:43:18.000 Yeah, well, I grew up in Canada, so that's a pretty radicalizing experience. I'd say we're
00:43:21.980 about 10 to 15 years ahead on the kind of left-wing progressive ideology compared to America.
00:43:27.480 and growing up in Vancouver in particular, where we have mass immigration to the point
00:43:32.780 where I don't even think the local population are the majority anymore, it's mostly immigrants
00:43:38.100 right now, made my lived experience one in which I had to embrace right-wing ideas.
00:43:46.900 I was watching my culture entirely change before me, and by the time I was in grade 12,
00:43:52.440 we had progressive uh classes being introduced literally social progress 12 or something where
00:43:59.380 we were learning about white privilege male privilege this kind of stuff and let's let's get
00:44:04.700 to the facing accusations maybe let's skip but there were also a lot of i don't care about your
00:44:11.320 early life lauren i don't care why you're a whore i don't i just care that you're doing it
00:44:16.740 there are things going on in the background that i didn't talk about publicly because it was
00:44:21.080 so complicated after i did my big documentary farmlands and borderless i was being massively
00:44:29.320 attacked by large global media corporations but also intelligence agencies what were they saying
00:44:35.360 about you they were saying lauren southern is what white nationalist was a big accusation okay
00:44:40.600 of a country so people can have families your career is done lauren done that they can raise
00:44:46.080 with freedom, freedom of religion. You know, I want to have that family one day. I want to have
00:44:51.900 kids. I want to be, you know, what I'm fighting for. And if I keep this going, like I am going
00:44:58.320 to end up behind bars for sure. I just narrowly escaped going to jail in Turkey, narrowly. And
00:45:04.300 when I got married, my husband was an Australian and he was also working for a federal government
00:45:12.880 capacity. And the Australian government told me I wasn't going to be allowed to come to the
00:45:18.720 country, visit family, nothing unless I quit politics. It was literally in their stipulation
00:45:23.740 letter to me. You are banned from the country. You're put on vacuum, which is a list for
00:45:27.860 terrorists, criminals, everything. We will only take you off that list and allow you in if you
00:45:33.040 quit politics. Was it a no brainer for you? Like done, like I quit or was it something that you
00:45:38.540 really thought through and was we're kind of struggling with obviously it's something I would
00:45:42.860 have preferred not been the case but it was a no-brainer like I when I told people you know
00:45:48.980 family is my goal having kids get when I decide you know before we get into all of this I want
00:45:54.300 to clarify I'm not the ideal trad wife I had a career I had boyfriends before my husband I had
00:45:59.880 like you know she was a whore yeah you banged destiny everything nothing about my life is
00:46:05.580 normal right but when I got married I was like this is my primary goal in life to be a mother
00:46:11.400 a wife and have kids and everything else comes secondary so letting go of my career was absolutely
00:46:17.780 a no-brainer but I would have preferred to have it and been able to speak publicly and not have
00:46:22.900 a government be oppressive to me because my ideology for sure were you feeling any type of
00:46:28.860 internal pressure like this is the kind of content I talk about and I need to make sure I'm living it
00:46:34.100 out people can pretend when they are content creators that they don't feel pressure from
00:46:39.000 their audience that they don't feel pressure from the comments section i remember when i was 20
00:46:43.440 21 years old i published a video saying why i'm not married because i was getting
00:46:47.820 so much incessant pressure from my audience saying you should have kids now you're basically
00:46:53.160 valueless as a woman you're out here traveling and being a career and i had to go out there and
00:46:57.300 be like you shouldn't rush into marriage you should find someone she should just stay put
00:47:03.120 make children and then go back to politics and then stop going to Turkey or whatever foreign
00:47:07.900 countries. Yeah, but she crashed out. She did tell all about her exes. Yeah. Dangerous woman.
00:47:14.580 That's good for you. And like, make sure the test of time goes through. You should,
00:47:19.260 some people aren't going to get married and that's okay. And I really tried to clarify
00:47:22.940 that to my audience, but I felt like I was almost trying to clarify that to myself.
00:47:26.500 Yeah, because this is what it is.
00:47:31.440 Again, feminism is a strategy for women to spend their youth on themselves.
00:47:35.260 And when women do that, it makes especially non-sexually active men upset.
00:47:45.300 And the reason is because the men sexually active, it benefits them.
00:47:50.840 Right.
00:47:51.020 So, again, betas benefit the most from marriage, and that's why they push it.
00:47:54.840 alphas are getting sex um I hate using those terms they're placeholders but you guys get the idea
00:48:00.100 self because I was feeling the pressure of this ideology and growing up you don't really know
00:48:05.800 things until you live them you don't that's just how it works you know what's that Ann Coulter
00:48:10.740 quote a liberal is just a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet I believe was the quote so it's
00:48:16.920 like you don't understand well if that's the case then we should have a lot of people turning red
00:48:21.160 in in california this year mass muggings yeah um so especially in the zeitgeist like i grew up
00:48:29.880 throughout the whole creation of the internet you know i was born in 95 and i started on like neopets
00:48:37.320 as a young girl the forums tumblr when it came out msn messenger oh you did tumblr and i had msn
00:48:44.200 messenger and aim both yeah yeah so all of these like more rudimentary beginnings of the internet
00:48:50.520 and then by the time i was a teenager like people started making youtube content you start watching
00:48:55.560 that and unfortunately what was lost in that transition was you used to be able to get all of
00:49:02.760 your information about relationships and love and what to do from real people around you where you
00:49:08.760 could really see the fruits of what they were talking about so if someone was giving you advice
00:49:12.840 on how to structure your relationship well you could see if they had successful relationships
00:49:16.680 in their life they were in your community whereas the information we're getting today is from a lot
00:49:22.440 of people who are creating exciting advice things that make you feel very confident about the
00:49:29.640 approach you're taking if you do this if you follow this listicle then you are going to be
00:49:33.400 well and the other issue is advice that worked for boomers doesn't work for gen z or millennials
00:49:38.760 the boomer dad used to just be able to go out there's a hot woman thin ready i mean gen z guys
00:49:45.240 got to figure out how to put their wife on a nutrition plan because they're all fat so and
00:49:51.720 then also um how to like not get herpy like these they don't they have no idea they have no idea
00:50:00.440 happy and healthy and if you don't do this you're going to be a miserable wench but you can't see
00:50:05.320 any of them but so the other issue is a lot of times we look at marriage as bringing people
00:50:10.440 happiness but happy people tend to get married um it's a byproduct of being a happy person
00:50:17.720 because that's a skill so if you're an unhappy person you just become an unhappy married person
00:50:22.680 if you're an unhappy person you're just an unhappy person with a kid they don't make you like it's
00:50:27.900 almost selfish to put your happiness on somebody else real struggles they're having because
00:50:34.080 everything looks good they think she's hot she's got herpes guys allegedly that's i mean
00:50:40.020 allegedly she got it from tate so she could be hot but that hpv and herpes is coming for it's
00:50:47.360 like you guys learn nothing from our friday std shows everything is sanitized what was the path
00:50:52.700 to follow that you thought if i do this this and this this will lead to a successful marriage and
00:50:57.340 happy relationship it was the whole trad wife stuff was beginning to become very popular on
00:51:02.080 the internet when i was at the dynamo of my career you have to you know not have your job you have to
00:51:08.700 Quit your job. Make that secondary. Be the stay-at-home wife. Be more submissive. Follow
00:51:14.620 your husband wherever he goes. You've got to be attractive. You've got to be young. You want to
00:51:19.340 get married young for sure because if you get married past 25, then you've hit the wall and
00:51:23.020 you're basically used goods, whatever. I don't know how she could argue that she's not used
00:51:29.280 goods as a single mother that has the reputation she has. Do you know what I mean?
00:51:36.220 his advice pieces that i thought i had one i was way cuter at 22 i was fatter but you know
00:51:44.760 i was way cuter like um
00:51:47.420 i wasn't this black pill that probably was more pleasant you know it just is what it is lottery
00:51:57.440 i found a very masculine guy someone said herpes i'm gonna die soon anyway so fuck it
00:52:02.600 well I with a masculine career and I did absolutely love my husband
00:52:08.120 one of the worst things tell us how you met him and what your first impression was
00:52:16.480 the first time I met him was actually we weren't dating or anything then but it was when I was
00:52:22.060 touring Australia and he was introduced to me as like a government dignitary so it was very
00:52:29.460 impressive very impressive very important person we shook hands took a picture and then i had to
00:52:34.260 go and do my speeches and then i didn't meet him again for a while and we weren't even dating them
00:52:40.420 either but he actually in a way kind of saved me from jail in turkey um he i can't get into the
00:52:49.500 details too much because it is like really weird government stuff that was good yeah and this is
00:52:56.360 if someone just submitted this they're why are they promoting a whore and a drug addict
00:53:01.320 allegedly this is the reputation she has i mean guys i've been on the internet forever
00:53:13.000 the only thing they got on me is an ex-boyfriend i had publicly it was a pub and look at i'm not
00:53:19.000 perfect something ever comes out i'll just say you know just is what it is but i i can tell you
00:53:24.680 you what won't come out drugs whoredom sleeping with destiny yeah that that will not come out
00:53:33.660 that no no no no no no I do not I would not I would never risk AIDS anyone that sleeps with
00:53:40.360 a bi guy is just stupid going on but he wasn't supposed to come and get me if I got arrested
00:53:45.820 he wasn't supposed to because he might sacrifice his security clearance he might you know get in
00:53:53.440 trouble himself with with his government jobs and I remember after being arrested by the military
00:54:00.300 they handed us over to the gendarme and my security that was with me at that time looked at me and
00:54:06.620 he's like we're screwed if we get handed over to the gendarme because they can charge us the
00:54:10.700 military couldn't charge us but these people can they bring us in you know at gunpoint in these
00:54:15.800 cars this little rickety old station with the light swinging in the ceiling a painting of
00:54:21.340 at Turk. And I remember walking in there thinking, wow, I'm probably going to jail for the rest of
00:54:25.300 my 20s. And then seeing he wasn't my husband at the time, but my husband waiting there after he
00:54:31.380 was supposed to cut and run and leave me and thinking, oh my goodness, what an incredible man.
00:54:37.680 And how soon were you married and pregnant?
00:54:40.000 We moved very quick.
00:54:41.580 And how did she reward him a freaking hit piece?
00:54:45.660 It was like we had known each other for like, I guess I'd met him like eight months before
00:54:51.300 beforehand. But we only dated for like five months. What did your ex tell you that he was
00:54:58.860 looking for in an ideal relationship? So this is something I think about a lot also because I spend
00:55:04.780 a lot of time online talking about what I wanted. So if you wanted to date me, you could go look up
00:55:10.400 exactly the things I would want to hear. You could go look at my Twitter timeline, my YouTube,
00:55:14.600 and he told me oh my gosh guys this is a problem and i'm just gonna say this firsthand
00:55:23.000 i never wanted to date somebody that knew my stuff
00:55:29.860 it's just too much it's like okay and i've heard other youtubers talk about this
00:55:36.280 it's not a fair fight when you know everything about me and i know nothing about you makes me
00:55:42.920 so uncomfortable it does i'm like you know because streaming in a way it's like a private
00:55:50.440 it's like i know it's public but sometimes it feels private
00:55:57.240 i don't like when it's like brought up you know i don't i never liked when to date somebody that
00:56:03.080 knew my stuff and there were even times where like someone would tell me they watched and i'm like i
00:56:10.520 gotta balance i'm not doing that i didn't care if they were like they'd seen my shorts but if i'm like
00:56:19.720 yeah i know this is the yeah now they're saying in the chat i don't know your stuff
00:56:26.520 oh my god it's too you just can't salute pearl expose these fake trap 304s thank you
00:56:33.880 you everything i wanted to hear i want to have a fan the most public private job ever i know
00:56:43.900 it's something you never you never think about emily i want to stay at home but i don't think
00:56:50.800 he manipulated her the way she's gonna like paint this i'd like to clarify i just it's almost like
00:56:56.780 okay because when you meet someone it's like you share a little they share a little and then all
00:57:01.760 of a sudden they have everything I think you know so my wife I want like two to three kids
00:57:08.780 I want you know to be the supportive masculine protector husband I want to reconnect with my
00:57:16.140 faith and go to church with my wife and just you know and it's hard to meet a lot of men when
00:57:23.120 you're like 21 22 that want to get married at that age it's not a it's not a huge no it is that but
00:57:30.920 that she deems attractive enough to marry um so candace was smarter than l's and quick marriage
00:57:38.280 um well candace didn't as far as what i've heard and i don't know if this is true or not so alleged
00:57:47.480 she did what a lot of women do which is like the starter boyfriend for like a decade or something
00:57:52.640 a long time that's what so she didn't have a reputation where lauren decided to bang like
00:57:59.960 half of the industry. That's going to be an L thing. I mean, a lot of girls that are dating
00:58:04.740 right now will know meeting guys on dating apps, whatever, that are actually interested in getting
00:58:10.240 married. Not common. And how much older than you was he? Nine years. Okay. Yeah. So he was quite a
00:58:16.280 bit older saying. That's not that much older. I feel like if you're 10 years, if the guy's 10
00:58:20.940 years older, you're the same age. That's how I feel. This is what I'm looking for. You're the
00:58:25.820 perfect match let's do this yeah and it was like to me it was a no-brainer so there was nothing
00:58:31.200 weird that he said i mean did he come right out and say i'm looking for a submissive wife did he
00:58:35.460 use that language with you so the you see how feminist these hoes are it's just ridiculous
00:58:41.340 um the only thing that i would look at and i didn't see it as a red also can you guys hit
00:58:49.540 the like button there's a thousand two hundred of you in here let's see how many likes we got
00:58:53.240 we got 378 likes are you guys are you guys messing with me are you
00:58:58.460 are you are you are we playing a like is free all right please thank you thomas conservative
00:59:05.320 sometimes people don't want to date someone who knows what they do and make for a living they want
00:59:09.840 to come home and not talk shop even gangsters love a good petting zoo yeah do you know what
00:59:15.780 and especially oh my gosh i remember back in the day it would be like oh let me pick your brain i'm
00:59:22.740 like i don't want my brain picked on a day you know anyways like then but i would look at it as
00:59:28.160 a red flag now that i kind of see the red pill movement coming about is not a movement it's men
00:59:34.060 like comparing experiences when he was talking about how him and his friends no longer wanted
00:59:39.520 to date western women they wanted to go find a woman overseas who was going to be passport bro
00:59:45.560 we want to find a woman overseas who is going to be more submissive and not a feminist and
00:59:51.000 that last lauren episode you did a couple weeks ago with some of the most entertaining content
00:59:55.740 i've ever heard uh lauren southern glad you're covering this again yeah going to be you know
01:00:01.580 thank you and these women they're these remember spiteful women try to ruin your life so i wouldn't
01:00:08.020 be surprised some of these women i'll let you know they will go around i've had collabs cancel
01:00:12.880 last minute and i find out later it's because some woman is pissed i covered her and they say
01:00:18.160 out to work with me and I'm like here we go again now there's 476 likes well there's a thousand of
01:00:26.860 you in here I expect 800 oh no oh okay oh a proper feminine woman so it's maybe someone in South
01:00:39.080 America now I look at that and you know I get it no one wants to be dating the like hardcore
01:00:48.360 feminist I hate men now she's saying well I want all the freedom I want to do whatever I want and
01:00:54.440 still be married yeah and a girl that's gonna want to arm wrestle you and never have kids like of
01:01:01.040 course like that doesn't make sense but in a lot of ways some of the guys who are saying this
01:01:06.700 literally want like a non-human as their wife like a non-person they don't
01:01:11.440 sounds pretty nice doesn't it guys want to have to work on conflict resolution
01:01:16.160 which it doesn't make any sense to me because to me
01:01:18.480 i mean maybe there's some aspect of that or truth to that because of a
01:01:22.340 language barrier but also i feel like women from other
01:01:25.620 cultures they are the ones that are the most
01:01:28.860 feisty the like the very you know they will
01:01:32.160 talk back i don't know this idea of like anyone
01:01:35.600 else from a non-American culture like they're very submissive and i don't know i don't know that i
01:01:40.320 don't believe that either i know i don't get that vibe from any woman that i know that is from
01:01:45.200 somewhere else they all seem to be way more you know combative i guess yeah but they're usually
01:01:50.640 more feminine i mean they might be feisty but they're like feminine you know none of us ladies
01:01:56.320 have none of us scream femininity unfortunately do you hear this i mean i swear like a guy you know
01:02:03.840 it's just we're all awkward we're just not like smooth yeah and then the other thing that i mean
01:02:12.000 everyone watching this is going to know is i wouldn't normally date a girl your age but
01:02:16.260 you're not like other girls you're not you're smarter than the other 20 yeah so now these
01:02:21.360 women are aging out and they're getting pissed because the men their age want the 22 year olds
01:02:25.420 even though they benefited from it back then yeah but they don't know the thing is when you're 22
01:02:31.780 you don't know how to be smart with what you have you just bang who's cute the wall really is when
01:02:36.420 you get banged enough times to bang for resources instead of just cute fun vibes that's the wall
01:02:45.060 and we're hitting it way earlier you're old girls you know and once again when you're 22 years old
01:02:52.100 you're kind of like of course i am i'm the smartest 22 year old that ever existed like
01:02:56.260 that's me what a compliment but it's like no i'm just a little more naive what did he say about his
01:03:01.700 views on working women did not like them didn't think that was a good which was funny this has
01:03:07.860 always been a strange thing about my career is i tend to like more conservative men that
01:03:15.220 tend to have these more true you bang destiny and andrew tate additional conservative views
01:03:22.580 but then i have a massive career where i'm traveling the world and there's a contradiction
01:03:27.540 there. There is a contradiction there. So I'm like, okay, you really like me because of my
01:03:32.560 career. You think it's amazing. But then you also dislike working women. You think it's kind of a
01:03:37.320 feminist thing. But also, do you really dislike working women? I don't think so. Because when I
01:03:43.160 eventually did get married, I was constantly lambasted for not earning money, for being
01:03:47.940 useless. Like why you're not contributing enough. And I'm like, whoa, like I thought you wanted this.
01:03:52.820 and so having this idea of I bet the real story was she was a lazy housewife a lot of women that
01:03:59.700 are housewives just want to be lazy and do nothing uh women in the workforce is bad but then I quit
01:04:05.400 my job to get married and be a mother and then suddenly I'm useless and not contributing enough
01:04:10.640 financially to the household it's like a lot of I think this is where the trad stuff can have
01:04:17.200 reality and online ideology collide is, is it really practical for one person to be supporting
01:04:26.700 an entire household nowadays? In a lot of cases, not really. And it can be extraordinarily stressful
01:04:32.600 for men to have that burden on their... I'm for women working. I really am. Go be a teacher.
01:04:37.560 You might as well help. Lauren is looking a little rough these days. Those
01:04:41.200 facial procedure bills must be going up.
01:04:44.280 shoulders. And I think when men face the reality of it, they're kind of like, okay, actually it
01:04:50.200 would be really helpful if my wife was still working right now. It would be really helpful
01:04:53.500 if you had an income, even if it's just an online job, whatever it is. So it's like kind of trying
01:04:59.480 to make a square peg fit into a round hole where it maybe would have been even more beneficial had
01:05:06.120 I been the main earner and pursued my career. And then he was kind of supportive in the background
01:05:12.160 that might have worked better but because there was this ideology in mind of no this is what a
01:05:18.880 marriage is supposed to look like this is what gender roles are supposed to look like it became
01:05:24.240 presentation over practicality and that really hurt things in my opinion i think every woman
01:05:30.320 a little bit maybe not every single one but definitely me every woman a little bit wants
01:05:33.760 to be able to be in her feminine and that's why you were able to talk yourself out of your own
01:05:37.840 intuition yes i'm like i need to yeah see these are two women that have taken owls like neither
01:05:43.360 of them have hot boyfriends they're just like old harpies that took an owl and can't just accept it
01:05:52.720 look at i mean i i've taken my share of owls i'm not pretending to be above it okay i'm not
01:06:00.960 but do you know what i'm i will never take an owl and pretend it was like anything other than my own
01:06:06.720 choices and decisions you know i'll never talk bad about anyone i've dated really because
01:06:18.720 you know you're equally bad if you if you think someone's bad and you dated them like what are you
01:06:24.000 um look at these thin forearms no no she wasn't a busy housewife no chance yeah i mean the nails
01:06:31.920 like that i want to be vulnerable i want to give my whole heart to someone and part of that means
01:06:41.760 not trying to be the boss babe and question him everywhere not trying to fight with him
01:06:46.880 accepting who he is trying to forgive radical radical forgiveness and i had really mentally
01:06:53.920 decided like this is my person i don't want any other man not interested this is my person and
01:06:58.800 I'm going to do my best to love him for who he is but you know a relationship is two people
01:07:06.000 it's both ways and both of you have to be looking to improve yourself and grow
01:07:09.920 and if one person is under the impression that they're perfect which I find this a lot with
01:07:15.760 maybe other girls like men will tell you we don't change after 30. we don't change after 30. this is
01:07:22.480 who we're going to be so you either accept it or we can break up and that was a thing that was used
01:07:27.760 a lot is um whenever there was kind of a problem that arose yeah she would just nag and that's the
01:07:33.040 thing women always want to nag men's behavior but men don't nag our behavior men are just so nice
01:07:39.520 like that they really are those he would be like okay well we're gonna break up then and that would
01:07:46.000 create this like abandonment complex in me where i was like well that's your own problem though
01:07:51.280 like if you can't look i understand at some point we are in the dating marketplace you got to have
01:07:58.880 developed some level of detachment and knowing things might not work out otherwise you're going
01:08:02.800 to get crushed and eaten alive things either work out or they don't but men want to make
01:08:08.480 sure you're not going to crash out if they don't work out this thing that i have given up my career
01:08:14.720 for that i am you know this is the person i want to marry this is the person i want to have kids
01:08:18.720 with or especially when i was already you know married and pregnant i i can't lose this like i
01:08:25.120 have to it got really bad when i was pregnant the okay well we're gonna get divorced so it went from
01:08:31.520 me psyching myself out and ignoring red flags to him giving me a recap what did he do he threatened
01:08:39.760 to divorce okay maybe you were annoying literal anxiety of abandonment if i ever addressed
01:08:48.560 red flags and it no longer felt like I was even in control of my own destiny or my own
01:08:55.200 ability to confront reality because confronting reality in some cases of the way he was treating
01:09:02.420 me or the decisions being made meant losing the entire idea that I had dedicated my entire
01:09:09.260 political existence and ideology to the nuclear family this is what I want I want to be a wife
01:09:14.360 i want to be a mother i want to have this for my child as well so if i don't accept the reality
01:09:20.600 that he has given me he's going to leave me did he say that he was a christian catholic catholic
01:09:27.320 okay yeah which you know a lot of debate around there but that's a whole nother podcast right
01:09:32.680 yes okay because i was just curious we went to mass when we were together yeah what were some
01:09:37.800 of the ways that he strategically isolated you from your friends and family when you first got
01:09:42.760 Okay. So what happens is women, men want to be the king of their castle. They don't want all
01:09:47.920 these other people's opinions. So there are times when they may isolate you from your friends or
01:09:53.360 your family, but it's just because they're like tired of listening to their opinions because they
01:09:58.320 want it to be like their house, not these other people's house. Well, it definitely began with
01:10:04.180 like little subtle comments about how everyone in my work sphere was problematic, how I shouldn't
01:10:09.900 talk to them and don't get me wrong like there's some accuracy there there's a lot of problematic
01:10:14.480 people within the political sphere but it definitely became this thing where I was made to feel like
01:10:20.680 every accomplishment that I had made in my life my documentaries all of it was horrible and
01:10:27.540 connected to this horrible sphere of people so I can never be proud of it I have to kind of leave
01:10:31.440 it behind never engage with it and it was really like the major one came around when I had just
01:10:38.540 given birth it was a week after i had had my baby and he accepted a job in australia what i'm hearing
01:10:46.320 is she was a lazy piece of shit that just nagged him all the time this guy waited for her in prison
01:10:55.300 why would he do that if he was gonna just abandon her after she had a kid come on yeah and he had
01:11:02.220 promised one of the things that i was like wow this is an amazing man is he was like i will move
01:11:06.400 to canada with you i don't because i told him i can't do a long distance thing and i'm not moving
01:11:10.540 to australia i want to be with my family i've been away from them for far too long traveling
01:11:14.600 the world doing these films i need to be in canada with my family and he's like fine i have made all
01:11:20.100 the preparation she acts like she can disappear for a while and pop back up eight eight months
01:11:24.220 later and voila she's brand new and never born again nations to move to canada and to be with
01:11:29.460 you there and we will live there grow old their everything and i was like wow i've never met a
01:11:33.320 man with such a like sacrificial spirit for love that's incredible but a week after I gave birth
01:11:39.920 he accepted a job in Australia without any conversation between us about it and said I
01:11:47.200 will divorce you yeah but he's if you don't come to Australia with me well yeah what are you going
01:11:54.140 to do a long distance marriage yeah and so he's giving you an out you know you could leave no
01:11:59.400 one's putting a gun to your head somewhere where it wasn't even going to be near his family or
01:12:02.760 anyone we knew and when you've just had a baby like you need support systems you need people to
01:12:07.160 help you out you don't they used to like kidnap you so I mean the old days they would kidnap you
01:12:13.080 and get you pregnant adapt bitch it's hard to tell if you have postpartum depression all these
01:12:17.840 things there's a lot of factors that mean you need your family and support systems in that space
01:12:23.260 did you share with your your friends and family that he was constantly threatening divorce if he
01:12:27.520 didn't do what he wanted no I was too nervous too I felt embarrassed I felt ashamed that I was even
01:12:34.400 in that position and definitely this is another big thing with the kind of trad sphere and I it's
01:12:43.280 just I know so many people that are living this life where they're posting the family photos where
01:12:48.080 they're posting the sour bread bake yeah I mean I agree with her here these women are so full of
01:12:53.080 shit they're so full of it making we're the happiest family on earth and then you'll have
01:12:58.860 these private conversations and like the dead of night where it's all hush hush and it's like
01:13:03.180 he told me i should kill myself again he told me he hates me he told me he's seeing another woman
01:13:08.480 but okay yeah but i mean you don't even know if that's true you i mean if if the if the statement
01:13:14.500 starts with she said i'll take it with a grain of salt if he said it i might believe it but not all
01:13:22.560 none of it if you think someone's bad and you dated them what are you pearl davis 8 3 2025
01:13:29.460 yeah i mean like if talking bad about your exes is like a cell phone
01:13:34.680 especially as a woman because we have so much more choice like men can be like slim pickets
01:13:40.860 but as it's like a cell phone you know it's like everyone is so embarrassed of having these real
01:13:47.740 or the other way around there are men in these positions too right where their wife is like
01:13:51.980 doing something horrible to them and there's so much pressure to keep up appearances because
01:13:57.700 otherwise it's like you've failed you have failed at what your life is supposed to be and now you're
01:14:02.880 just another one of those degenerates was he saying to you that you should kill yourself
01:14:06.660 no no this is this is other women that i know what kinds of things would he say to you when
01:14:10.620 you were fighting a lot of your dead weight on my life like you're useless all you are is dead weight
01:14:16.040 to me uh well were you dead weight that would be my question alex do a better job let me teach you
01:14:22.440 how to grill these hoes you're pathetic like so were you were you perfect you know you're i remember
01:14:31.080 like a very specific rant towards me of because every once in a while i'd get a bit of confidence
01:14:37.640 i'd be like okay well like if you're gonna abandon us then i i can't control that like you keep
01:14:44.200 telling me you're going to abandon us are we sure she didn't get the hurt burp bump from the blue
01:14:50.040 haired kumar gremlin i don't know this is just apparently what the ex-husband told rollo tomasi
01:14:57.880 i guess i gotta move on and there would be like very specific psychological things like okay
01:15:04.600 you think you can move on for me you might find another guy that's better but in most cases you
01:15:08.680 might find a guy that's more abusive he might beat you he might be horrible to you you good
01:15:13.480 luck with that like i like very like calculated kind of comments to kind of mess me up psychologically
01:15:20.200 this is stuff that i you know i got a comment that says looking up and right when she's saying
01:15:26.120 certain things which is the visual imagination not memory whenever she does that she's lying
01:15:31.800 i can't i can't say where his headspace was i he is someone this poor guy i understand why
01:15:41.560 they avoid us influencers that i still love he was my husband right i still love him i can't be in
01:15:50.120 contact with him because of the way that he treated me and treated us and also because he abandoned us
01:15:55.640 um but there is still like a big how bad did you have to be to get a guy who waited for you in jail
01:16:00.200 to abandon you you probably sucked part of me where it's like i don't even recounting these
01:16:04.120 stories it's hard for me to recount them or think about them because i try not to like my you know
01:16:09.320 know my son's gonna grow up and he's gonna watch this and i want him to know that i loved his dad
01:16:13.640 very much sorry it's okay if you're lauren southern's son and you watch this your mom's a crazy
01:16:20.200 hoe she didn't love you that much sorry but you're not alone most mothers don't love their kids that
01:16:27.480 much oh i don't like crying on the internet but um thanks it's okay take your time there were good
01:16:36.680 times like there were good times there were lovely beautiful times camping like going to the zoo all
01:16:41.320 this kind of stuff just i think people love the way they know how to love and i think that
01:16:48.360 he grew up in a very difficult life and it's not my place to talk about the type of life he had
01:16:54.760 and she'll use their trauma against you and just call you damaged forever
01:16:59.480 and then see nothing wrong childhood he had but it wasn't an easy one
01:17:03.820 and when I recount these stories I actually believe that he felt he was doing better than
01:17:11.460 what he grew up with and so as very well could be true right as much as some of it is like it's not
01:17:19.100 okay it's not okay to call your wife it's complex to be an abusive relationship I love this person
01:17:24.600 I don't love how they treat me. And it's rationalizing that. You get the same thing
01:17:30.100 with kids in foster care, is that they are rescued from these horrific situations within their
01:17:36.380 family. And yet they'll still ask things like, when do I get to go home? It's very, very complex.
01:17:45.740 Yeah. So it's like, I... Alex Clark, you're an idiot. I think you might be the top 10
01:17:51.220 dumbest interviewers I've ever seen oh my god she's crying I'm starting to believe her yeah
01:18:01.900 I don't know I don't you know I think I've given the idea like you don't call your wife worthless
01:18:07.580 you don't lock her out of the house you don't tell someone you're going to divorce them if
01:18:11.380 they don't come to another country with you if you've already had a kid like there are so many
01:18:15.460 things I could recount there are more detailed things there yeah that's women hold every bad
01:18:21.040 thing you've ever done to them in like a um in like a a catalog just to throw at you later
01:18:29.640 more horrific things there were crocodile tears beautiful aspects of the relationship that i could
01:18:35.680 recount but um yeah i i just also have to keep in mind like my my son's gonna grow up and he's
01:18:44.240 gonna watch this stuff one day and i hope his dad heals i do like ultimately despite all of this and
01:18:50.620 despite everything that's happened.
01:18:51.800 Oh my God.
01:18:53.260 And I hope he heals and I hope he grows as a person.
01:18:57.240 And I'll never-
01:18:59.320 This is why women shouldn't have microphones.
01:19:01.860 Hypocritical, I know.
01:19:03.440 But I already said I'm a hypocrite, so.
01:19:05.640 Name him, I'll never dox him.
01:19:07.480 I'll never say who he was
01:19:08.740 because I don't want this to follow him around
01:19:10.600 for the rest of his life.
01:19:12.160 When, after he left us,
01:19:14.240 he did try to email tons of people in my work sphere
01:19:16.920 and say that the reason was because we,
01:19:19.840 I cheated on him and I stole his child.
01:19:21.900 All these things that were untrue.
01:19:23.040 So he really did try to destroy my reputation publicly.
01:19:26.020 Oh, that's rich.
01:19:30.060 All right, that is rich.
01:19:31.520 Let me get this straight.
01:19:32.200 He tried to destroy your reputation.
01:19:34.360 When you have a book out about, oh my God.
01:19:39.440 Oh, I hate women.
01:19:41.200 Oh, I hate my gender.
01:19:42.920 Oh my God.
01:19:44.160 Oh, but not all.
01:19:46.560 I can't say what I want to say.
01:19:48.660 and he left you he left us and i begged him to have shared custody and he rejected it
01:19:55.500 um probably because because he knew you're going to torment him forever so he's like i can't deal
01:20:01.740 with this craziness and i don't know why it seemed so unnecessarily cruel i was already
01:20:07.140 trying i was living with my parents trying to you know just pick up the pieces of my life and create
01:20:13.520 a good life for my child and i didn't understand why the cruelty why he would do this to us how
01:20:18.240 long did the marriage last it was only um it was only a few years yeah only two years
01:20:24.760 oh my god that's such an l okay well i think that's we're gonna stop it today but you know
01:20:33.040 tomorrow because now it's like the trad we might maybe we'll react to more of it later
01:20:38.800 um but yeah i mean this is the deal this is what we got going on here uh let me do this
01:20:51.260 i'm gonna see if there's any other donations to the docu the divorce documentary um save a man
01:20:58.740 from a woman like this donate to my divorce documentary um i feature trad con women oh we
01:21:05.100 got it over is that over a hundred wait let me zoom in oh my gosh my laptop is on its last leg
01:21:12.800 my new one is coming in over a hundred dollars it um oh my gosh i can't no stop crashing out okay
01:21:22.420 well i think someone named will donated a hundred dollars but it's crashing out so i can't it's
01:21:28.560 officially frozen i must have ended this at a good time um all right guys let me know
01:21:35.040 you guys think um um according a final comment um according to rollo um he rejected it um he didn't
01:21:47.360 reject or sorry according to rollo he didn't reject it she refused and the courts gave the
01:21:53.200 child to her um according to what the ex-husband said so i don't know if we believe women or men
01:21:58.720 here but i know what i would pick anyways guys um if you can donate to the divorce documentary
01:22:05.840 the links in the description i think we might clear 40k this month so that's pretty