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- August 03, 2025
Lauren Southern Calls Being a Trad Wives a Scam | Pearl Daily
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14,453
Sentence Count
366
Misogynist Sentences
112
Hate Speech Sentences
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Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless.
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This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
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Most young men are single.
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Most young women are not.
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Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
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It's a different world now.
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Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.
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Nobody needs men.
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The future is female.
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Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
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A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
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You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.
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This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
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You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
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Marriage is a bond and it's a sacred bond.
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It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
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Now many of the red pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
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Hannah Pearl Davis or just pearly things.
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One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
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She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
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Because if me and you were in a business contract,
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you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
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Gee, what could go wrong there?
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74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
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Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
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Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
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I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
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Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
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You need no evidence.
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When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for.
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And you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
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I interviewed them on the other side.
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I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
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How much did you spend trying to get him back?
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The legal fees alone was about $200,000.
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Before you know it, you're homeless.
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You're literally just thrown out onto the street.
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We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
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Wives are taught to leave their husbands.
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and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
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Family is the foundation of society.
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Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
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A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole
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of happiness, endless happiness.
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Feminism's biggest failure is in lives to women.
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We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
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We tell them to put off family into marriage.
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You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.
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You are allowed to end a relationship
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with a really great boyfriend.
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Oh, freeze your eggs, have an abortion.
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What? You're evil.
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I don't think there's anything else in life
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that we actually ever go into preparing to fail right like if you have the mentality of this is
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going to go wrong and be pessimistic naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to
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fail anyway it's self-sabotage that's the thing like women are so willing to leave marriages
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because they're not happy this is not about happiness the most important thing is the
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children and the problem is we have a modern society where it's me me me my feelings leave
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when i feel like it instead of doing what's best for the kids this myth that we live in an age of
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male privilege. Where's my male privilege? They think, well, men have all the rights. They have
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all the power. Privileged patriarchal system that we have. Why doesn't our society care about men's
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rights? I have no friends, no white, and no socialized. Men are alone in this situation.
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Men are homeless. Men are thinking about eating guns. I've seen so many men on the brink of
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suicide, and they didn't do anything wrong. How are you equal if the men are the ones that have
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to fight and die to defend the country? The men are the ones that build and maintain all the
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infrastructure women are helplessly dependent upon men the so-called deaths of despair from
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suicide overdose to alcohol three times higher among men than among women culture is telling
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men you are no good you got to get your act together i think men have failed themselves
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what kind of a man are you what kind of a woman are you going to attract if men are in trouble
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so are women everybody knows this is a huge problem but nobody wants to admit it every
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single woman at the table said they wanted a man 500k 500k 300k 200k
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Am I crazy?
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Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
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If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
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So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
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Women.
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I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
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I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
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I'm over it.
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When is it going to be my turn?
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Where are we meeting the men that don't stop?
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I can't keep having these same conversations.
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The only simp here is you, Pearl.
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You simp for men.
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No, I think you simp for women.
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She's a provocateur.
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She says stupid stuff.
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But Pearl is right about this.
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It's already happening.
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It's just not out in the open yet.
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Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband.
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The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
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We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.
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Civilization will crumble.
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The American story does not end well.
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This is an existential crisis failing young men.
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what up guys welcome to another episode of pearl daily here on the audacity network thank you guys
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so much for tuning in um today we are going to be talking about lauren southern's divorce when
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crazy women take ls they can't handle it but i first wanted to say thank you to everybody that's
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donated to this divorce documentary it's um with the donations that we're really able to do what
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can do here at the audacity network um we are trying to raise a hundred thousand dollars for
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this divorce documentary and i'm gonna read uh the hold on the people that donated but i gotta verify
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they gotta make sure this is me do you know what this two factor has really messed me up the last
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few weeks uh because i don't know what it is my technology is just my technology has been failing
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me okay it's been failing me I don't know how my computer the screen is broken so right now I have
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to use a monitor below this I can't even look I have to look here because this screen does not
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work this screen also crashed and my phone crashed well my other phone and I'm doing this like two
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factor thing oh my I just don't know how this all happens in the same week because have you guys
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ever had a technology week like that before the show i thought that monitor crashed too and i was
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like i don't know what it is this week um but it is because of the men and women that donate to
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this divorce documentary that it will be made possible um thank you to daniel for the donation
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maxine wayne john i just do first names oh two hundred dollar donation from bradford anonymous
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john rich eddie um thank you those are the donations from the last few days we're at 36
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thousand three hundred and twenty dollars um we'd really like to get to a hundred thousand dollars
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this year the reason is um i'd like to hire a documentary team and um i'd like to have like
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six months to a year of their stuff so we can start and fit you know but anyways all right
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so today we're going to be reacting to Lauren Southern, um, and a female enabler. So for some
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reason, um, and what was her name? Let me get in this thing. For some reason, when we take L's
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as women, we just like cannot handle it. I don't know what it is. Do you know what? Like there's
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been times in life where I've taken an L, you know, you get screamed at, you get fired, you get
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whatever. And it's just, it's just, it's just a sad day. Oh, Alex Clark. That's it. And
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but some reason women have to like rationalize their L's. They can't just accept it. You can't
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just say, do you know what? I failed in this capacity. I'm a failure. I'm a loser. You know
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what i mean that's really difficult for us um so today i'm going to be reacting to lauren southern
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um calling trad wifing being a scam but before i do i think we could have some fun and go through
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my tweets uh my retweets the last like day or so and i like to explain because if any of you
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follow me on twitter it's pearly things with a z sometimes my thoughts aren't the most well
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thought out so it might be kind of a little fun segment to start the day and we'll just go
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sorry not well thought out they're not well explained they're not well explained to the
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general public um this clip of nick is going viral it's always a calculated risk when i play
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him i think i could play him though i think this could be a cool i think it'll be all right oh thank
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you to the super chat i'm doing this on my phone i had to buy a new computer it comes tuesday
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post-plandemic chronicles thank you so if you want doug mpa i'll let you decide i'll default
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to a man can i play a viral clip of of nick or do i need to not i'll let doug mpa he can
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he can lay down the hammer or not it's going by it's really good it's really good i think a lot
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of people would relate to it oh now you guys are having std nightmares because of std friday you
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know yeah go for it doug mpa gave me doug mpa i think doug mpa's main job is to keep me monetized
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i just go off the handle i'm like let me say this this and that
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but you know the last few years i've explained i've had to kind of put my life on hold um
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you know i've had a lot of people step in to help me which i really appreciate um but
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i kind of anyways i need to stay on this track
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i need to and you know what today i am actually feeling so good today i'm just in a good mood
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play the clip can you can you let me I kind of want to react to hit pieces because I think you
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guys would find it entertaining and there's some people I said nothing about that I want to give
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my two cents three years later because I didn't let it go I didn't I didn't screw you all right
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let me let me watch nick's clip he's so talented i'm sorry he i could see why conservatives hate
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him i really do because that man is one of the most talented entertainers i've seen in my life
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he has a way of words uh yeah i'm being accused of being the cia okay so let me let me give the
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preface so we we reacted to nick and candace um going at it right they they went at it on youtube
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and um they they did an interview and nick um and candace came for nick and candace owens i
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actually need to i i should go a little a little bit more uh let me let me get the other clip
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make sure my screen down because i don't know what's going to come up
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um but you know candace owens tucker carlson
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let's see let me get this um all right so there is a part where um candace that's a fascinating
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observation candace talks about nick so they're talking trash about that has never occurred to me
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that the theater kids have taken like literally the literal theater kids
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ah that's just here's your next role you're going to be president speaking of theater i i just
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hesitate even to ask this but um since because i i mean it just opens up all this stuff i want to
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deal with but you just interviewed nick one he's gonna regret asking this he's gonna regret asking
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this because nick torched him torched does i did or had a conversation with him what did you think
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of that what do you think of him i mean i can tell you my experience is was entirely fraudulent with
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him i i never interview people as a gotcha interview it's always so that's female gaslighting
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okay that is female gaslighting it's it's called g-a-s-l-i-g-h-t-i-n-g when she did the thing
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she's saying she didn't do and it was very obvious to everyone that watched and then pretend she
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didn't do it and again i really used to love i used to love candace owens um i i i used to love
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her stuff but ever since she turned on crowder i just can't i i can't unsee it and i don't care
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how many simps in the comments when she gives an apology remember she did an evil thing this is
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evil evil she called a man an abusive monster that is a terrible thing to do
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and now she quietly takes down the video and expects me to forget when is the apology
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and it just it makes me so mad you're grifting my religion and you're calling a man an abuser
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screw you screw you i want a public apology that is to steven in person off camera and as loud
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as the video you made a lot of money on pro my channel is demonetized I'm not given the option
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to reapply to make a five minute video and no exact date to be able to reapply can I be
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monetized again it's not looking good for you it's not looking great for you it's really not
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Um, I've just got to be honest.
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Just that he, he was making the rounds.
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He's been around for a while and kind of his story when I learned it because he was banned
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from everywhere.
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So I didn't actually know what the backstory was with Nick Fuentes.
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But then I learned it when he was allowed back on X and Jeremy Boring.
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Now, I don't believe that she didn't know who he was.
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I don't believe that.
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I didn't know who this guy was.
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and you could tell because i'm like what's that what's the i don't i don't want to say
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the organizations because guys guys i love all people i am not going at anybody i love everybody
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um okay anyways then the ceo of daily wire did this ex live with him uh and jeremy boring did
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an event with nick fuentes it was honestly it was weird everything was weird about what happened
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but it happened. And Nick told his story and I was listening in and said essentially that he
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was canceled because he started asking questions about Israel. He was 18 years old and he alleged
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that it was very much the fault of the Daily Wire or whatever he said. And I found it very
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interesting. And I was like, oh, I actually didn't know this was the backstory. Maybe this really is
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a person who had just ahead of everybody else was questioning Israel and had like a bad hand given
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to him so i had him on the show welcomed him into my home and he was very nice we told him we're
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gonna cut you know a controversial trailer we're gonna show you like these clips of you talking
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trash about me and you can talk about whatever you want for as long as you want ask any questions
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you want to ask it went great he left he said thanks we can now be friends and i am not kidding
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we published this 11 days later and he it was I don't even know how to he just starts screaming
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calling me and so that's another thing women again women hate masculinity and they subtly
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shame masculinity so now she's thinking oh he was screaming Nick's not a yeller look at
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I know men that are yellers I do I know them
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i've dated a particular
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ah there's things i want to say so bad but i can't the patriarchy has been novel it okay okay
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thank you for the super chat um but i look at nick is not a guy that's gonna scream at you
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he's not effing b-i-t-c-h who set him up we didn't edit a single thing those 11 days like
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two weeks before we even published the interview we told him if there's anything that he wanted us
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to insert like nobody does that if you go on their show yes and i don't know what i genuinely don't
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know what triggered him other than me at the very end asking him about like or talking about family
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yeah but so this is this is the thing with women they're so unlikable they don't know why people
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are reacting to that look i know my flaws you guys you guys have been very very open about my
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flaws all right i don't always think things through um i'm a modern woman
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i can be hypocritical i know um i talk too much i'm loud and if i put somebody off if i'm being
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honest i understand i can't be everybody's cup of tea i really can't um i can't so you know women
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what happens is they go through life and candace is like a pretty black girl her whole life she's
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been cute but now she's getting old and she's not going to be able to get away with the stuff
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that she used to get away with i was chubby all right i was kind of fat when i was younger
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i never got to get away with that all right i always had hotter fronts i've just i got away
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with stuff too right but this is my point so now people aren't gonna they're not gonna do what they
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used to do because she's a woman now she's not a girl she's a woman so now what's gonna what's
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gonna happen is she's gonna have woman consequences and yeah and that now she's not gonna be used to
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it. And now, so when she's a bitch and people respond, she's just going to gaslight them
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because that was a gotcha interview. And it was, it was just the rage that was coming out of him
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was just weird. And I don't know why he did that. I don't know why he did a 180. You had access to
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me. You could have said anything after you, even if he had said in good faith, I thought I sounded
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a little weird here. Could you cut it out? We probably would have cut it out because I just
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don't want people to ever not have a good experience. You know what I'm saying? You want
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people well this i'll speak for myself when i invite someone on especially just to hear their
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views i want them to be able to express what they actually think right exactly and you decide what
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you think and you decide how to express it i mean that's like a basic human right kind of and so
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um i'm not here to trip you up into saying something you don't mean i want to hear what you
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now now this is what women women go into men's spaces and expect to be treated like women so
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she's saying well you didn't give me the courtesy you didn't give me the basic decency why don't you
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talk off screen yeah and i had to learn this i had to learn um this too you know i'm not gonna name
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names i'm not gonna name names but you know um i'm not gonna you know you can't and i'm not gonna go
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there but you can't demand that you're treated like a woman in a man's world this is work this
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is business honey so yeah if you want to do a live stream responding
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and you're saying you can't respond to our debate because
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and i didn't really think she was he was mean about it either was the other thing
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you mean yeah exactly and he told the story he did all that and apparently then and i i don't
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know if it was driven by insecurity he didn't know how that's the next thing women do you're insecure
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you're insecure his followers would take the interview but he just did a complete 180
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lied to his audience pretended that he was surprised he was behind a paywall we spoke
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about him and how we were going to release it he said great i mean it's a totally total 180 flip
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so i can now say that i didn't listen to other people say that nick was a bad person i didn't
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care about what happened when he was 18 19 20 26 i sat across from a person had a conversation with
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him so now she's going towards reputation destruction you're a bad person you're a bad
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person and then it's posturing right i'm moral he's immoral yada yada paved one way in person
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and then put on a show for the internet so i actually can say my experience with nick fuentes
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is that he's a terrible person and a terrible human being because why would you do that there's
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no reason to do that like did he commit a crime and see this is the thing women use simps to
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destroy men's reputation he didn't commit a crime he said words she doesn't like
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and that's the thing women have to police speech because what happened really is nick embarrassed
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her because he cooked her oh my god he cooked her for two hours straight it was so funny
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um and she doesn't really like getting cooked because you know because she's a feminist i'm
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a feminist we're all feminists all of us all of us um but the difference is she's built her brand
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like you know off of being a good person and you got to be honest that you're not yeah you could
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have come back onto the show you could have had beginning of us discussing various topics
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I think in many ways, whatever happened to him when he was 18 may have stunted.
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I hope this helps our pearl. Keep up the good work. Breakfast in Ireland. Thank you, Maxie.
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Thank you.
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His growth, meaning that he now is responding to the internet, which is filled with people
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that don't even use their real names. Right. So, so really, truly the irony of it all is you could
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just be like the IDF soldiers, just pretending to be his supporters, just getting him to say
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whatever you want, because he's going to do whatever you say.
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now they're jealous they're so jealous of him because he has a cult following he really does
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so many people know who he is that he he has more star power without all of these platforms than all
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these people that's why they hate crowder too crowder has more star power than them he does
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no ifs hands or butts hey but it was strange it was totally strange it made no sense and i just
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have a family or a normal life i asked him about that he said yeah it comes from a two-parent
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household. Does he have his own family? Does he? No, no. Now they're going to moralize, right? So
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now I'm better than you because I have children. They all, you, and I thought Tucker Carlson
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doesn't usually do this, but they all use their kids and their husband for clout. If you're a
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good person, I need, I should be able to see you're a good person by your actions. Why do
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you need to bring up your kids to morally posture that you're a good person? You know, if you're a
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bad person you're just a bad person with a kid do you know what I mean or like and I don't care if
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you're good or bad I mean shit I I suck in a lot of ways but you know my my point is um yeah he's
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not married and and I just offered to him I was like yeah no I think these are things that you
00:23:27.700
learn when you're married and he just was no yeah so here she was nagging him about being married
00:23:35.300
and look at this is her face when women when conservative women are told they're out of order
00:23:43.360
you know that's not really it's not it's really not your place to tell a man what to do and oh
00:23:51.340
my gosh on twitter she's going crazy right now oh my gosh i mean uh doug mpa could you get the
00:23:57.300
there's like a a video if you could find it of the back and forth between nick and candace and
00:24:03.320
It's so funny.
00:24:04.420
I'm just about it.
00:24:05.220
And, you know, women don't tell me what to do or whatever it was.
00:24:09.420
And it was very performative.
00:24:10.880
Like I said, the exact same thing to Andrew Tate months earlier.
00:24:13.980
I had him and I said, you should get married.
00:24:15.680
Here's why.
00:24:16.300
And of course, Andrew Tate did not react like that.
00:24:17.800
He told me what his hangups were about marriage.
00:24:19.420
It was just a part of two people communicating on a show.
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But for whatever reason, like.
00:24:22.880
Yeah, because because again, she's gone through life.
00:24:26.660
And this is the thing.
00:24:27.740
alphas sorry nick alphas tend to like be charming with women so they've kind of trained themselves
00:24:34.860
to just say uh-huh and like whisper sweet nothings to women when they say stuff that's
00:24:40.840
disrespectful where the more the guys that don't really date no offense and they tend to just say
00:24:48.500
what they think but that doesn't really get them laid do you know i mean they just they just say
00:24:52.740
like in general you know um but the guys that are like and some guys just can't do it they're like
00:24:58.980
i just i can't but so she's used to dealing with these high level men that you know they've trained
00:25:05.140
themselves to shut up when women do things that are rude it was he saw this as like an attack
00:25:11.940
even though interesting yeah it was weird it was totally tender spot well okay has it occurred to
00:25:17.620
you that and i just want to say i haven't watched a lot of nick fuentes in my life at all
00:25:22.740
um but what i've seen the guy's very talented like just as a as a well let me just say this
00:25:29.700
as someone who's talked to cameras his whole life it is very hard to sit and just like riff
00:25:36.420
for 20 minutes and i just i think it's an amazing skill and he has that skill
00:25:41.540
but i also have noticed um that his targets are all people who are sincere non-crazy
00:25:50.260
okay so now they're they're yeah okay so they had a back and forth on twitter if we go if we find it
00:25:57.780
we'll do it but this was one of the best clips i've seen of him this was a beautiful clip it's
00:26:04.340
going viral yeah so i just thought it was yeah i peter teal's best boys wait here by tuck i'm being
00:26:13.300
accused of being the CIA by Peter Thiel's best boys? By Tucker Carlson with his daddy? Tucker
00:26:21.000
Carlson's, and you know what? Here's the other thing. Tucker Carlson said, I'm a weird gay kid
00:26:27.080
in the basement. Yeah. And I'm from Chicago. You're right. Well, okay. You're not right about
00:26:34.100
all of that, but I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth. Tucker Carlson says, I have
00:26:40.180
so many trust funds, I never have to work. Tucker went to a $45,000 per year private high school,
00:26:47.960
then a $45,000 per year selective Ivy League school in New England. Tucker Carlson's daddy
00:26:55.500
was a Reagan appointee. And then after years of bragging about being an elite, bragging about
00:27:03.600
being so out of touch and so rich, now he's going to be the spokesperson for all the white people.
00:27:09.100
now he's going to roll up his sleeves i just like to hunt fish in my log cabin i care about
00:27:14.780
clarna and credit card debt but then when it comes to me i'm one of the real disaffected white people
00:27:22.640
you want to talk about me and them i am them he says nick fuentes is leading all the disaffected
00:27:30.360
young white men i am a disaffected white young white man i was a precocious intelligent young
00:27:36.800
white college student who went to Boston University, who was pro-Trump and red-pilled
00:27:42.260
by Trump and animated by Trump's message of America first. And I asked questions about Israel
00:27:47.480
and I was punished for it. I did it years before Tucker Carlson started talking about Israel last
00:27:54.060
year. And I sacrificed and I was targeted by the ADL, by the SPLC, by the federal government,
00:28:02.140
by the conservative movement that both Candace and Tucker were a part of.
00:28:06.800
Candace and Tucker had nothing to say about Israel until it became unavoidable last year,
00:28:12.260
not popular, but unavoidable. And now they want to gatekeep me out and do this personality attack
00:28:19.160
and say, I'm a bitter loser in my basement from Chicago. I'm a kid from Chicago. And they slipped
00:28:26.760
up there because they forgot for one second that they're pretending to be the spokesperson for
00:28:32.260
exactly that kind of person. Tucker's mask slipped, and he forgot for a minute that for
00:28:37.880
eight years, he's been pretending to care about the plight of weird kids in their parents' basement
00:28:43.880
who are broke and didn't go to an Ivy League school, living in cities that don't matter like
00:28:48.980
Chicago, not like Washington, D.C. or L.A. or New York. And that's why he had such disdain and
00:28:55.180
contempt for me in that moment. Between the personality attacks, he's lonely. He's weird.
00:29:01.540
He lives in a basement. I'm sorry. Did you guys forget that that's your target audience that
00:29:06.980
you're trying to pander to? Did you forget that for two seconds? And I'm the inauthentic person.
00:29:14.300
I am that person. I am a spokesman for the disaffected white man because I am one. And
00:29:21.460
you two are not. Candace Owens got married to British royalty worth $200 million after meeting
00:29:28.520
him for two weeks on Zoom. What the fuck is even that about? And Tucker Carlson's dad ran the CIA's
00:29:35.800
propaganda empire fighting the Soviet Union. He went and fought with the Contras when he was in
00:29:41.100
college. When I was in college, I was doing a webcam show in my friend's dorm room criticizing
00:29:47.360
Israel. So who's the CIA cutout? Who's the inauthentic one? Who's the crazy hateful one?
00:29:54.380
i would never describe a well-meaning young white person who's trying to get ahead as a weird kid
00:30:02.280
in his basement from chicago and what is that supposed to mean what is wrong with being from
00:30:07.260
chicago what is wrong with being weird what is wrong with living in your basement
00:30:11.700
that's a lot of people because of the problems you claim to care about
00:30:16.900
tucker's at turning point usa extolling the predatory nature of usury and how it's preventing
00:30:25.780
young white men from getting homes and then the week after says you're in your mom's basement
00:30:30.760
so which is it so which is he's cooking oh my god he's cooking it do you care about clarna
00:30:41.100
and people going into debt to order pizzas
00:30:43.940
and home ownership being impossible?
00:30:47.380
Or do you think that's a contemptible,
00:30:49.980
low status thing to be ridiculed and mocked?
00:30:55.060
Who's pandering here exactly?
00:30:57.380
Because that wasn't you.
00:30:58.720
You were born to the Swanson family fortune
00:31:01.780
and your daddy who ran the CIA.
00:31:05.480
You know, my dad didn't even graduate college.
00:31:07.940
My dad worked for the tollway.
00:31:11.100
His dad died of a drug overdose in the 70s.
00:31:13.920
My mother's father was a garbage man in Chicago, and he committed suicide.
00:31:19.420
He was a veteran of World War II.
00:31:21.940
Who's the CIA cutout?
00:31:23.600
Who's the poser?
00:31:24.760
Who is America?
00:31:26.840
I am America.
00:31:28.300
Chicago is America.
00:31:29.840
That's an American story.
00:31:31.540
I didn't go to Yale Law School and suck Peter Thiel's dick and then get a sinecure at a venture capital firm advising Rebecca Mercer.
00:31:40.040
and writing hillbilly elegy and talking about it at the aspen institute that's your biographical
00:31:46.880
credibility how many of these disaffected white people that love trump because he's racist
00:31:52.800
went to yale law school and got plucked out by peter teal whoever he even is peter teal with
00:31:59.420
his fixation with the antichrist this homosexual who's involved with the cia
00:32:04.920
wants to live forever and govern the world with AI. Yeah, that's really relatable. That's really
00:32:12.420
relatable. Do another show with him and Curtis Yarvin. Do another show. Do the 47th show with
00:32:18.880
J.D. Vance. It's it is insulting and it is insulting to everybody's intelligence for Tucker
00:32:26.880
to sit there and say he doesn't know his dad is in the CIA for him to say that I'm in the CIA.
00:32:32.480
what a joke what a sick joke especially after everything that's happened to me and unlike what
00:32:41.140
Candace Owens says she says what happened to him when he was 18 what happened to me is ongoing
00:32:47.320
okay unlike Candace Owens and Tucker I never got a contract with Ben Shapiro and Rupert Murdoch
00:32:54.740
and that's the thing women enter industries and turn on them later when should I turn I'm getting
00:33:01.400
close to 30 do i need to do i need to start turning on you guys sorry i'm kidding i was on
00:33:08.640
maker support i was on patreon i was on d live i had to fight for everything i have i didn't get
00:33:17.000
a million dollar contract from turning point i didn't get 20 million dollars from fox news
00:33:21.660
my daddy didn't get me a job in arkansas
00:33:24.100
so ridiculous
00:33:31.380
yeah i'm being accused of being this um
00:33:37.440
yeah i mean he's talented and he just cooked them he cooked them to oblivion
00:33:44.480
um doug mpa what was there another clip on the last tab of the document okay i'll check
00:33:50.300
uh one hour 55 minutes
00:33:53.840
of what
00:33:56.800
the link you said is a twitter thing
00:34:01.300
oh candid let's see this one
00:34:06.660
oh no that's not the one we reacted to that one that's not the one i was trying to find
00:34:14.640
uh it was like
00:34:20.300
All right, because we did that one before.
00:34:26.440
Oh, okay.
00:34:27.460
This one was pretty funny.
00:34:29.000
Okay, this one.
00:34:30.960
Okay, Nick said,
00:34:33.520
why is Candace trying to rehabilitate Harvey Weinstein?
00:34:36.640
She flamed out of the Daily Wire
00:34:38.120
for taking a stand against Israel,
00:34:40.180
but now she uses her platform
00:34:41.740
to defend a Democrat pervert
00:34:43.540
with ties to Israeli intelligence.
00:34:46.240
I don't know.
00:34:46.760
Didn't you say I was likely funded by Russia
00:34:48.820
through the Tate brothers?
00:34:49.740
can't lie it was definitely putin that made me tell you marriage was aspirational vladimir hit
00:34:54.540
me up on whatsapp to do the most random things lol so your answer is i don't know i'm not the
00:35:00.700
one wondering why you would use your platform to rehabilitate a massad connected democrat pervert
00:35:07.420
but just last week i was tagged in a clip of you claiming it was russia that was backing me
00:35:12.060
did you think it was the massad now the israeli says it's qatar funding me at this point so i
00:35:17.020
i don't really know nick everyone is wondering why you crashed out on your boss ben shapiro just
00:35:22.300
so you could rehabilitate a degenerate zionist like weinstein but after your little frankest
00:35:27.320
stunt last year it's just a little bit suspicious to everyone thank you candace says can you imagine
00:35:35.160
like you're like mom can we can we play it's just i'm busy tweeting and nick um i think the best way
00:35:42.780
for you to handle this is to post a clip screaming I'm a real man again and refer to me as a bitch a
00:35:49.540
few more times to really prove because if a man isn't calling a woman a stupid bitch is he a real
00:35:54.220
man I think not this is the way so now it just goes back to I hate these type of women they're
00:36:00.540
such downers do you know what like I I have a potty mouth okay wait are the people in conservative
00:36:09.900
media don't understand that every young white man is filled with contempt and despises the
00:36:13.900
current system and wants it gone but it's just like who are you candace to tell nick that he's
00:36:22.380
not a real man and then nick says why don't you put your phone down and go make me a sandwich
00:36:30.700
the one um and then once you've calmed down and collected yourself explain why you were
00:36:35.260
trying to help harvey weinstein and convince us that the frankists are not the jews
00:36:39.900
I'm literally shaking right now. However, will I survive to being being told to go make a sandwich?
00:36:45.600
You're really, really, really setting an example for real men everywhere.
00:36:49.720
I'm trying my best to calm down and collect myself, but I'm a woman. So give me time.
00:36:54.700
You're setting an example for real men. Take all the time you need. Turkey, provolone, lettuce and tomato, please.
00:37:01.040
Easy mayo. Thanks, hon. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. Everyone can see that you are totally not a raging bitch.
00:37:07.420
the thing is i'm just not myself when i'm hungry that's why i need a sandwich
00:37:11.440
is this from a snickers commercial so good keep going it is funny that's why she's gaslighting
00:37:17.360
she's trying to gaslight and say it's not funny but she's getting cooked on the timeline this is
00:37:21.960
so funny true you seem unbothered right now i'm i'm not trying to annihilate you i just want you
00:37:30.740
i just want to know why you keep pushing harvey weinstein and the frank casadas but you're being
00:37:35.140
weirdly defensive sometimes annihilation is the only day way thanos do what must be done
00:37:40.760
are you okay
00:37:43.400
it's so funny okay yeah but you know i think my twitter i kind of like this twitter series where
00:37:54.580
i could go through my retweets my tweets um so i said women will go to the ends of the earth to
00:38:01.860
ruin your life with a smile on your face and this is because I've just had women do that to me
00:38:09.660
and they think it's funny they'll like get you fired and they think it's funny they'll like
00:38:17.340
yeah they'll like get like one woman caused me to fire 20 people
00:38:27.300
one woman one and all the beta males that she got to help her and um
00:38:36.500
no remorse none they don't care
00:38:40.980
i said um oh i i did show my my cookie i made last night i made this with coconut oil
00:38:49.540
and it was actually pretty good i did coconut oil instead of butter you're curious all right
00:38:56.720
but we can get into the topic today.
00:38:58.320
We can, I said,
00:39:00.820
I decided I want the birth rate to drop to zero
00:39:03.520
and I want it because maybe then they'll be like,
00:39:07.920
maybe we should change family court.
00:39:12.500
I said marriage benefits beta males the most
00:39:15.480
and marriage is for beta males to get sexual access.
00:39:18.600
They were pretty pissed about that.
00:39:20.780
But it's true because without marriage,
00:39:23.140
women would just be with alphas.
00:39:24.320
So they're like, we need to spread out the women because otherwise these betas are going to attack me.
00:39:33.140
And then how do I contact you?
00:39:34.920
You can book a session with me on my website.
00:39:39.560
So it's on the audacitynetwork.com.
00:39:42.720
All right.
00:39:43.540
Or, I mean, if you have something to pitch, you can do my Instagram, just pearlythings1, pearlythings on Twitter with a Z.
00:39:49.400
all right but now let's let's get to the main topic today which is um
00:39:54.760
which is the the trad uh the face of the trad wives um
00:40:02.020
so basically lauren southern recently put out a book
00:40:07.460
and i didn't read it because i just have better things to do um but basically but i will do you
00:40:15.960
know what, if you guys pay me enough, I might do it. But I just think we all got better things to
00:40:20.480
do with our time. But I will cook her today. So I want to show you what happens is the sisterhood's
00:40:25.560
always real. So even women that say they're conservative. So this is Alex Clark. And she's
00:40:32.220
assisting Lauren Southern and accusing all of the right of rape when she was really just being a
00:40:38.460
whore. So, yeah. I think the majority of women in the trad wife space are having massive problems
00:40:46.720
in their relationship that they will never talk about publicly. Are we talking about online
00:40:51.500
influencers in the trad wife space? Yes. Yes. Conservative space? Yes. Some have speculated
00:40:57.220
that your ex was a Romeo spy. Is there any possibility that that could be true?
00:41:03.700
I don't like crying on the internet, but my son's going to grow up. He's going to watch this and I
00:41:07.460
want him to know that I loved his dad very much I think the one reason I don't remain tortured by
00:41:13.820
this relationship is because I gave it everything within a thousand times of him saying I'm going
00:41:20.140
to divorce you a thousand times I said I'm not giving up on you and the worst part is it's funded
00:41:31.440
by men so turning point USA that's the thing men they often get what they deserve because it's like
00:41:37.320
they just they go to the ends of the earth to destroy men
00:41:42.520
ideal image of marriage and family lacks the nuance and complexity of real life
00:41:49.140
that is the story of what happened to her a trad wife fairy tale turned into a nightmare
00:41:54.460
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00:41:59.740
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00:42:20.040
Southern, a Canadian journalist, documentary filmmaker, YouTube firebrand, author, mother,
00:42:26.280
and survivor. This is Culture Apothecary with Alex Clark.
00:42:30.520
Lauren Southern, you've had one of the most compelling careers in the conservative media
00:42:39.100
space, but are the rumors true that you're a feminist now?
00:42:41.960
If I call myself that, I will.
00:42:43.880
And now it's crashed.
00:42:45.960
Now your career's over.
00:42:50.320
Alex, I can't tell if this girl's just stupid or what.
00:42:54.680
I have accusations made against me that do not apply and expectations I cannot fulfill.
00:42:59.560
so I'm going to avoid that one like the plague. I plead the fifth.
00:43:03.000
Well, talk a little bit about the environment that you grew up in, the belief system that
00:43:07.780
you grew up in in your family, and how you ended up being. I would say that you are one of the
00:43:13.020
first major content creators in the conservative, independent media space.
00:43:18.000
Yeah, well, I grew up in Canada, so that's a pretty radicalizing experience. I'd say we're
00:43:21.980
about 10 to 15 years ahead on the kind of left-wing progressive ideology compared to America.
00:43:27.480
and growing up in Vancouver in particular, where we have mass immigration to the point
00:43:32.780
where I don't even think the local population are the majority anymore, it's mostly immigrants
00:43:38.100
right now, made my lived experience one in which I had to embrace right-wing ideas.
00:43:46.900
I was watching my culture entirely change before me, and by the time I was in grade 12,
00:43:52.440
we had progressive uh classes being introduced literally social progress 12 or something where
00:43:59.380
we were learning about white privilege male privilege this kind of stuff and let's let's get
00:44:04.700
to the facing accusations maybe let's skip but there were also a lot of i don't care about your
00:44:11.320
early life lauren i don't care why you're a whore i don't i just care that you're doing it
00:44:16.740
there are things going on in the background that i didn't talk about publicly because it was
00:44:21.080
so complicated after i did my big documentary farmlands and borderless i was being massively
00:44:29.320
attacked by large global media corporations but also intelligence agencies what were they saying
00:44:35.360
about you they were saying lauren southern is what white nationalist was a big accusation okay
00:44:40.600
of a country so people can have families your career is done lauren done that they can raise
00:44:46.080
with freedom, freedom of religion. You know, I want to have that family one day. I want to have
00:44:51.900
kids. I want to be, you know, what I'm fighting for. And if I keep this going, like I am going
00:44:58.320
to end up behind bars for sure. I just narrowly escaped going to jail in Turkey, narrowly. And
00:45:04.300
when I got married, my husband was an Australian and he was also working for a federal government
00:45:12.880
capacity. And the Australian government told me I wasn't going to be allowed to come to the
00:45:18.720
country, visit family, nothing unless I quit politics. It was literally in their stipulation
00:45:23.740
letter to me. You are banned from the country. You're put on vacuum, which is a list for
00:45:27.860
terrorists, criminals, everything. We will only take you off that list and allow you in if you
00:45:33.040
quit politics. Was it a no brainer for you? Like done, like I quit or was it something that you
00:45:38.540
really thought through and was we're kind of struggling with obviously it's something I would
00:45:42.860
have preferred not been the case but it was a no-brainer like I when I told people you know
00:45:48.980
family is my goal having kids get when I decide you know before we get into all of this I want
00:45:54.300
to clarify I'm not the ideal trad wife I had a career I had boyfriends before my husband I had
00:45:59.880
like you know she was a whore yeah you banged destiny everything nothing about my life is
00:46:05.580
normal right but when I got married I was like this is my primary goal in life to be a mother
00:46:11.400
a wife and have kids and everything else comes secondary so letting go of my career was absolutely
00:46:17.780
a no-brainer but I would have preferred to have it and been able to speak publicly and not have
00:46:22.900
a government be oppressive to me because my ideology for sure were you feeling any type of
00:46:28.860
internal pressure like this is the kind of content I talk about and I need to make sure I'm living it
00:46:34.100
out people can pretend when they are content creators that they don't feel pressure from
00:46:39.000
their audience that they don't feel pressure from the comments section i remember when i was 20
00:46:43.440
21 years old i published a video saying why i'm not married because i was getting
00:46:47.820
so much incessant pressure from my audience saying you should have kids now you're basically
00:46:53.160
valueless as a woman you're out here traveling and being a career and i had to go out there and
00:46:57.300
be like you shouldn't rush into marriage you should find someone she should just stay put
00:47:03.120
make children and then go back to politics and then stop going to Turkey or whatever foreign
00:47:07.900
countries. Yeah, but she crashed out. She did tell all about her exes. Yeah. Dangerous woman.
00:47:14.580
That's good for you. And like, make sure the test of time goes through. You should,
00:47:19.260
some people aren't going to get married and that's okay. And I really tried to clarify
00:47:22.940
that to my audience, but I felt like I was almost trying to clarify that to myself.
00:47:26.500
Yeah, because this is what it is.
00:47:31.440
Again, feminism is a strategy for women to spend their youth on themselves.
00:47:35.260
And when women do that, it makes especially non-sexually active men upset.
00:47:45.300
And the reason is because the men sexually active, it benefits them.
00:47:50.840
Right.
00:47:51.020
So, again, betas benefit the most from marriage, and that's why they push it.
00:47:54.840
alphas are getting sex um I hate using those terms they're placeholders but you guys get the idea
00:48:00.100
self because I was feeling the pressure of this ideology and growing up you don't really know
00:48:05.800
things until you live them you don't that's just how it works you know what's that Ann Coulter
00:48:10.740
quote a liberal is just a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet I believe was the quote so it's
00:48:16.920
like you don't understand well if that's the case then we should have a lot of people turning red
00:48:21.160
in in california this year mass muggings yeah um so especially in the zeitgeist like i grew up
00:48:29.880
throughout the whole creation of the internet you know i was born in 95 and i started on like neopets
00:48:37.320
as a young girl the forums tumblr when it came out msn messenger oh you did tumblr and i had msn
00:48:44.200
messenger and aim both yeah yeah so all of these like more rudimentary beginnings of the internet
00:48:50.520
and then by the time i was a teenager like people started making youtube content you start watching
00:48:55.560
that and unfortunately what was lost in that transition was you used to be able to get all of
00:49:02.760
your information about relationships and love and what to do from real people around you where you
00:49:08.760
could really see the fruits of what they were talking about so if someone was giving you advice
00:49:12.840
on how to structure your relationship well you could see if they had successful relationships
00:49:16.680
in their life they were in your community whereas the information we're getting today is from a lot
00:49:22.440
of people who are creating exciting advice things that make you feel very confident about the
00:49:29.640
approach you're taking if you do this if you follow this listicle then you are going to be
00:49:33.400
well and the other issue is advice that worked for boomers doesn't work for gen z or millennials
00:49:38.760
the boomer dad used to just be able to go out there's a hot woman thin ready i mean gen z guys
00:49:45.240
got to figure out how to put their wife on a nutrition plan because they're all fat so and
00:49:51.720
then also um how to like not get herpy like these they don't they have no idea they have no idea
00:50:00.440
happy and healthy and if you don't do this you're going to be a miserable wench but you can't see
00:50:05.320
any of them but so the other issue is a lot of times we look at marriage as bringing people
00:50:10.440
happiness but happy people tend to get married um it's a byproduct of being a happy person
00:50:17.720
because that's a skill so if you're an unhappy person you just become an unhappy married person
00:50:22.680
if you're an unhappy person you're just an unhappy person with a kid they don't make you like it's
00:50:27.900
almost selfish to put your happiness on somebody else real struggles they're having because
00:50:34.080
everything looks good they think she's hot she's got herpes guys allegedly that's i mean
00:50:40.020
allegedly she got it from tate so she could be hot but that hpv and herpes is coming for it's
00:50:47.360
like you guys learn nothing from our friday std shows everything is sanitized what was the path
00:50:52.700
to follow that you thought if i do this this and this this will lead to a successful marriage and
00:50:57.340
happy relationship it was the whole trad wife stuff was beginning to become very popular on
00:51:02.080
the internet when i was at the dynamo of my career you have to you know not have your job you have to
00:51:08.700
Quit your job. Make that secondary. Be the stay-at-home wife. Be more submissive. Follow
00:51:14.620
your husband wherever he goes. You've got to be attractive. You've got to be young. You want to
00:51:19.340
get married young for sure because if you get married past 25, then you've hit the wall and
00:51:23.020
you're basically used goods, whatever. I don't know how she could argue that she's not used
00:51:29.280
goods as a single mother that has the reputation she has. Do you know what I mean?
00:51:36.220
his advice pieces that i thought i had one i was way cuter at 22 i was fatter but you know
00:51:44.760
i was way cuter like um
00:51:47.420
i wasn't this black pill that probably was more pleasant you know it just is what it is lottery
00:51:57.440
i found a very masculine guy someone said herpes i'm gonna die soon anyway so fuck it
00:52:02.600
well I with a masculine career and I did absolutely love my husband
00:52:08.120
one of the worst things tell us how you met him and what your first impression was
00:52:16.480
the first time I met him was actually we weren't dating or anything then but it was when I was
00:52:22.060
touring Australia and he was introduced to me as like a government dignitary so it was very
00:52:29.460
impressive very impressive very important person we shook hands took a picture and then i had to
00:52:34.260
go and do my speeches and then i didn't meet him again for a while and we weren't even dating them
00:52:40.420
either but he actually in a way kind of saved me from jail in turkey um he i can't get into the
00:52:49.500
details too much because it is like really weird government stuff that was good yeah and this is
00:52:56.360
if someone just submitted this they're why are they promoting a whore and a drug addict
00:53:01.320
allegedly this is the reputation she has i mean guys i've been on the internet forever
00:53:13.000
the only thing they got on me is an ex-boyfriend i had publicly it was a pub and look at i'm not
00:53:19.000
perfect something ever comes out i'll just say you know just is what it is but i i can tell you
00:53:24.680
you what won't come out drugs whoredom sleeping with destiny yeah that that will not come out
00:53:33.660
that no no no no no no I do not I would not I would never risk AIDS anyone that sleeps with
00:53:40.360
a bi guy is just stupid going on but he wasn't supposed to come and get me if I got arrested
00:53:45.820
he wasn't supposed to because he might sacrifice his security clearance he might you know get in
00:53:53.440
trouble himself with with his government jobs and I remember after being arrested by the military
00:54:00.300
they handed us over to the gendarme and my security that was with me at that time looked at me and
00:54:06.620
he's like we're screwed if we get handed over to the gendarme because they can charge us the
00:54:10.700
military couldn't charge us but these people can they bring us in you know at gunpoint in these
00:54:15.800
cars this little rickety old station with the light swinging in the ceiling a painting of
00:54:21.340
at Turk. And I remember walking in there thinking, wow, I'm probably going to jail for the rest of
00:54:25.300
my 20s. And then seeing he wasn't my husband at the time, but my husband waiting there after he
00:54:31.380
was supposed to cut and run and leave me and thinking, oh my goodness, what an incredible man.
00:54:37.680
And how soon were you married and pregnant?
00:54:40.000
We moved very quick.
00:54:41.580
And how did she reward him a freaking hit piece?
00:54:45.660
It was like we had known each other for like, I guess I'd met him like eight months before
00:54:51.300
beforehand. But we only dated for like five months. What did your ex tell you that he was
00:54:58.860
looking for in an ideal relationship? So this is something I think about a lot also because I spend
00:55:04.780
a lot of time online talking about what I wanted. So if you wanted to date me, you could go look up
00:55:10.400
exactly the things I would want to hear. You could go look at my Twitter timeline, my YouTube,
00:55:14.600
and he told me oh my gosh guys this is a problem and i'm just gonna say this firsthand
00:55:23.000
i never wanted to date somebody that knew my stuff
00:55:29.860
it's just too much it's like okay and i've heard other youtubers talk about this
00:55:36.280
it's not a fair fight when you know everything about me and i know nothing about you makes me
00:55:42.920
so uncomfortable it does i'm like you know because streaming in a way it's like a private
00:55:50.440
it's like i know it's public but sometimes it feels private
00:55:57.240
i don't like when it's like brought up you know i don't i never liked when to date somebody that
00:56:03.080
knew my stuff and there were even times where like someone would tell me they watched and i'm like i
00:56:10.520
gotta balance i'm not doing that i didn't care if they were like they'd seen my shorts but if i'm like
00:56:19.720
yeah i know this is the yeah now they're saying in the chat i don't know your stuff
00:56:26.520
oh my god it's too you just can't salute pearl expose these fake trap 304s thank you
00:56:33.880
you everything i wanted to hear i want to have a fan the most public private job ever i know
00:56:43.900
it's something you never you never think about emily i want to stay at home but i don't think
00:56:50.800
he manipulated her the way she's gonna like paint this i'd like to clarify i just it's almost like
00:56:56.780
okay because when you meet someone it's like you share a little they share a little and then all
00:57:01.760
of a sudden they have everything I think you know so my wife I want like two to three kids
00:57:08.780
I want you know to be the supportive masculine protector husband I want to reconnect with my
00:57:16.140
faith and go to church with my wife and just you know and it's hard to meet a lot of men when
00:57:23.120
you're like 21 22 that want to get married at that age it's not a it's not a huge no it is that but
00:57:30.920
that she deems attractive enough to marry um so candace was smarter than l's and quick marriage
00:57:38.280
um well candace didn't as far as what i've heard and i don't know if this is true or not so alleged
00:57:47.480
she did what a lot of women do which is like the starter boyfriend for like a decade or something
00:57:52.640
a long time that's what so she didn't have a reputation where lauren decided to bang like
00:57:59.960
half of the industry. That's going to be an L thing. I mean, a lot of girls that are dating
00:58:04.740
right now will know meeting guys on dating apps, whatever, that are actually interested in getting
00:58:10.240
married. Not common. And how much older than you was he? Nine years. Okay. Yeah. So he was quite a
00:58:16.280
bit older saying. That's not that much older. I feel like if you're 10 years, if the guy's 10
00:58:20.940
years older, you're the same age. That's how I feel. This is what I'm looking for. You're the
00:58:25.820
perfect match let's do this yeah and it was like to me it was a no-brainer so there was nothing
00:58:31.200
weird that he said i mean did he come right out and say i'm looking for a submissive wife did he
00:58:35.460
use that language with you so the you see how feminist these hoes are it's just ridiculous
00:58:41.340
um the only thing that i would look at and i didn't see it as a red also can you guys hit
00:58:49.540
the like button there's a thousand two hundred of you in here let's see how many likes we got
00:58:53.240
we got 378 likes are you guys are you guys messing with me are you
00:58:58.460
are you are you are we playing a like is free all right please thank you thomas conservative
00:59:05.320
sometimes people don't want to date someone who knows what they do and make for a living they want
00:59:09.840
to come home and not talk shop even gangsters love a good petting zoo yeah do you know what
00:59:15.780
and especially oh my gosh i remember back in the day it would be like oh let me pick your brain i'm
00:59:22.740
like i don't want my brain picked on a day you know anyways like then but i would look at it as
00:59:28.160
a red flag now that i kind of see the red pill movement coming about is not a movement it's men
00:59:34.060
like comparing experiences when he was talking about how him and his friends no longer wanted
00:59:39.520
to date western women they wanted to go find a woman overseas who was going to be passport bro
00:59:45.560
we want to find a woman overseas who is going to be more submissive and not a feminist and
00:59:51.000
that last lauren episode you did a couple weeks ago with some of the most entertaining content
00:59:55.740
i've ever heard uh lauren southern glad you're covering this again yeah going to be you know
01:00:01.580
thank you and these women they're these remember spiteful women try to ruin your life so i wouldn't
01:00:08.020
be surprised some of these women i'll let you know they will go around i've had collabs cancel
01:00:12.880
last minute and i find out later it's because some woman is pissed i covered her and they say
01:00:18.160
out to work with me and I'm like here we go again now there's 476 likes well there's a thousand of
01:00:26.860
you in here I expect 800 oh no oh okay oh a proper feminine woman so it's maybe someone in South
01:00:39.080
America now I look at that and you know I get it no one wants to be dating the like hardcore
01:00:48.360
feminist I hate men now she's saying well I want all the freedom I want to do whatever I want and
01:00:54.440
still be married yeah and a girl that's gonna want to arm wrestle you and never have kids like of
01:01:01.040
course like that doesn't make sense but in a lot of ways some of the guys who are saying this
01:01:06.700
literally want like a non-human as their wife like a non-person they don't
01:01:11.440
sounds pretty nice doesn't it guys want to have to work on conflict resolution
01:01:16.160
which it doesn't make any sense to me because to me
01:01:18.480
i mean maybe there's some aspect of that or truth to that because of a
01:01:22.340
language barrier but also i feel like women from other
01:01:25.620
cultures they are the ones that are the most
01:01:28.860
feisty the like the very you know they will
01:01:32.160
talk back i don't know this idea of like anyone
01:01:35.600
else from a non-American culture like they're very submissive and i don't know i don't know that i
01:01:40.320
don't believe that either i know i don't get that vibe from any woman that i know that is from
01:01:45.200
somewhere else they all seem to be way more you know combative i guess yeah but they're usually
01:01:50.640
more feminine i mean they might be feisty but they're like feminine you know none of us ladies
01:01:56.320
have none of us scream femininity unfortunately do you hear this i mean i swear like a guy you know
01:02:03.840
it's just we're all awkward we're just not like smooth yeah and then the other thing that i mean
01:02:12.000
everyone watching this is going to know is i wouldn't normally date a girl your age but
01:02:16.260
you're not like other girls you're not you're smarter than the other 20 yeah so now these
01:02:21.360
women are aging out and they're getting pissed because the men their age want the 22 year olds
01:02:25.420
even though they benefited from it back then yeah but they don't know the thing is when you're 22
01:02:31.780
you don't know how to be smart with what you have you just bang who's cute the wall really is when
01:02:36.420
you get banged enough times to bang for resources instead of just cute fun vibes that's the wall
01:02:45.060
and we're hitting it way earlier you're old girls you know and once again when you're 22 years old
01:02:52.100
you're kind of like of course i am i'm the smartest 22 year old that ever existed like
01:02:56.260
that's me what a compliment but it's like no i'm just a little more naive what did he say about his
01:03:01.700
views on working women did not like them didn't think that was a good which was funny this has
01:03:07.860
always been a strange thing about my career is i tend to like more conservative men that
01:03:15.220
tend to have these more true you bang destiny and andrew tate additional conservative views
01:03:22.580
but then i have a massive career where i'm traveling the world and there's a contradiction
01:03:27.540
there. There is a contradiction there. So I'm like, okay, you really like me because of my
01:03:32.560
career. You think it's amazing. But then you also dislike working women. You think it's kind of a
01:03:37.320
feminist thing. But also, do you really dislike working women? I don't think so. Because when I
01:03:43.160
eventually did get married, I was constantly lambasted for not earning money, for being
01:03:47.940
useless. Like why you're not contributing enough. And I'm like, whoa, like I thought you wanted this.
01:03:52.820
and so having this idea of I bet the real story was she was a lazy housewife a lot of women that
01:03:59.700
are housewives just want to be lazy and do nothing uh women in the workforce is bad but then I quit
01:04:05.400
my job to get married and be a mother and then suddenly I'm useless and not contributing enough
01:04:10.640
financially to the household it's like a lot of I think this is where the trad stuff can have
01:04:17.200
reality and online ideology collide is, is it really practical for one person to be supporting
01:04:26.700
an entire household nowadays? In a lot of cases, not really. And it can be extraordinarily stressful
01:04:32.600
for men to have that burden on their... I'm for women working. I really am. Go be a teacher.
01:04:37.560
You might as well help. Lauren is looking a little rough these days. Those
01:04:41.200
facial procedure bills must be going up.
01:04:44.280
shoulders. And I think when men face the reality of it, they're kind of like, okay, actually it
01:04:50.200
would be really helpful if my wife was still working right now. It would be really helpful
01:04:53.500
if you had an income, even if it's just an online job, whatever it is. So it's like kind of trying
01:04:59.480
to make a square peg fit into a round hole where it maybe would have been even more beneficial had
01:05:06.120
I been the main earner and pursued my career. And then he was kind of supportive in the background
01:05:12.160
that might have worked better but because there was this ideology in mind of no this is what a
01:05:18.880
marriage is supposed to look like this is what gender roles are supposed to look like it became
01:05:24.240
presentation over practicality and that really hurt things in my opinion i think every woman
01:05:30.320
a little bit maybe not every single one but definitely me every woman a little bit wants
01:05:33.760
to be able to be in her feminine and that's why you were able to talk yourself out of your own
01:05:37.840
intuition yes i'm like i need to yeah see these are two women that have taken owls like neither
01:05:43.360
of them have hot boyfriends they're just like old harpies that took an owl and can't just accept it
01:05:52.720
look at i mean i i've taken my share of owls i'm not pretending to be above it okay i'm not
01:06:00.960
but do you know what i'm i will never take an owl and pretend it was like anything other than my own
01:06:06.720
choices and decisions you know i'll never talk bad about anyone i've dated really because
01:06:18.720
you know you're equally bad if you if you think someone's bad and you dated them like what are you
01:06:24.000
um look at these thin forearms no no she wasn't a busy housewife no chance yeah i mean the nails
01:06:31.920
like that i want to be vulnerable i want to give my whole heart to someone and part of that means
01:06:41.760
not trying to be the boss babe and question him everywhere not trying to fight with him
01:06:46.880
accepting who he is trying to forgive radical radical forgiveness and i had really mentally
01:06:53.920
decided like this is my person i don't want any other man not interested this is my person and
01:06:58.800
I'm going to do my best to love him for who he is but you know a relationship is two people
01:07:06.000
it's both ways and both of you have to be looking to improve yourself and grow
01:07:09.920
and if one person is under the impression that they're perfect which I find this a lot with
01:07:15.760
maybe other girls like men will tell you we don't change after 30. we don't change after 30. this is
01:07:22.480
who we're going to be so you either accept it or we can break up and that was a thing that was used
01:07:27.760
a lot is um whenever there was kind of a problem that arose yeah she would just nag and that's the
01:07:33.040
thing women always want to nag men's behavior but men don't nag our behavior men are just so nice
01:07:39.520
like that they really are those he would be like okay well we're gonna break up then and that would
01:07:46.000
create this like abandonment complex in me where i was like well that's your own problem though
01:07:51.280
like if you can't look i understand at some point we are in the dating marketplace you got to have
01:07:58.880
developed some level of detachment and knowing things might not work out otherwise you're going
01:08:02.800
to get crushed and eaten alive things either work out or they don't but men want to make
01:08:08.480
sure you're not going to crash out if they don't work out this thing that i have given up my career
01:08:14.720
for that i am you know this is the person i want to marry this is the person i want to have kids
01:08:18.720
with or especially when i was already you know married and pregnant i i can't lose this like i
01:08:25.120
have to it got really bad when i was pregnant the okay well we're gonna get divorced so it went from
01:08:31.520
me psyching myself out and ignoring red flags to him giving me a recap what did he do he threatened
01:08:39.760
to divorce okay maybe you were annoying literal anxiety of abandonment if i ever addressed
01:08:48.560
red flags and it no longer felt like I was even in control of my own destiny or my own
01:08:55.200
ability to confront reality because confronting reality in some cases of the way he was treating
01:09:02.420
me or the decisions being made meant losing the entire idea that I had dedicated my entire
01:09:09.260
political existence and ideology to the nuclear family this is what I want I want to be a wife
01:09:14.360
i want to be a mother i want to have this for my child as well so if i don't accept the reality
01:09:20.600
that he has given me he's going to leave me did he say that he was a christian catholic catholic
01:09:27.320
okay yeah which you know a lot of debate around there but that's a whole nother podcast right
01:09:32.680
yes okay because i was just curious we went to mass when we were together yeah what were some
01:09:37.800
of the ways that he strategically isolated you from your friends and family when you first got
01:09:42.760
Okay. So what happens is women, men want to be the king of their castle. They don't want all
01:09:47.920
these other people's opinions. So there are times when they may isolate you from your friends or
01:09:53.360
your family, but it's just because they're like tired of listening to their opinions because they
01:09:58.320
want it to be like their house, not these other people's house. Well, it definitely began with
01:10:04.180
like little subtle comments about how everyone in my work sphere was problematic, how I shouldn't
01:10:09.900
talk to them and don't get me wrong like there's some accuracy there there's a lot of problematic
01:10:14.480
people within the political sphere but it definitely became this thing where I was made to feel like
01:10:20.680
every accomplishment that I had made in my life my documentaries all of it was horrible and
01:10:27.540
connected to this horrible sphere of people so I can never be proud of it I have to kind of leave
01:10:31.440
it behind never engage with it and it was really like the major one came around when I had just
01:10:38.540
given birth it was a week after i had had my baby and he accepted a job in australia what i'm hearing
01:10:46.320
is she was a lazy piece of shit that just nagged him all the time this guy waited for her in prison
01:10:55.300
why would he do that if he was gonna just abandon her after she had a kid come on yeah and he had
01:11:02.220
promised one of the things that i was like wow this is an amazing man is he was like i will move
01:11:06.400
to canada with you i don't because i told him i can't do a long distance thing and i'm not moving
01:11:10.540
to australia i want to be with my family i've been away from them for far too long traveling
01:11:14.600
the world doing these films i need to be in canada with my family and he's like fine i have made all
01:11:20.100
the preparation she acts like she can disappear for a while and pop back up eight eight months
01:11:24.220
later and voila she's brand new and never born again nations to move to canada and to be with
01:11:29.460
you there and we will live there grow old their everything and i was like wow i've never met a
01:11:33.320
man with such a like sacrificial spirit for love that's incredible but a week after I gave birth
01:11:39.920
he accepted a job in Australia without any conversation between us about it and said I
01:11:47.200
will divorce you yeah but he's if you don't come to Australia with me well yeah what are you going
01:11:54.140
to do a long distance marriage yeah and so he's giving you an out you know you could leave no
01:11:59.400
one's putting a gun to your head somewhere where it wasn't even going to be near his family or
01:12:02.760
anyone we knew and when you've just had a baby like you need support systems you need people to
01:12:07.160
help you out you don't they used to like kidnap you so I mean the old days they would kidnap you
01:12:13.080
and get you pregnant adapt bitch it's hard to tell if you have postpartum depression all these
01:12:17.840
things there's a lot of factors that mean you need your family and support systems in that space
01:12:23.260
did you share with your your friends and family that he was constantly threatening divorce if he
01:12:27.520
didn't do what he wanted no I was too nervous too I felt embarrassed I felt ashamed that I was even
01:12:34.400
in that position and definitely this is another big thing with the kind of trad sphere and I it's
01:12:43.280
just I know so many people that are living this life where they're posting the family photos where
01:12:48.080
they're posting the sour bread bake yeah I mean I agree with her here these women are so full of
01:12:53.080
shit they're so full of it making we're the happiest family on earth and then you'll have
01:12:58.860
these private conversations and like the dead of night where it's all hush hush and it's like
01:13:03.180
he told me i should kill myself again he told me he hates me he told me he's seeing another woman
01:13:08.480
but okay yeah but i mean you don't even know if that's true you i mean if if the if the statement
01:13:14.500
starts with she said i'll take it with a grain of salt if he said it i might believe it but not all
01:13:22.560
none of it if you think someone's bad and you dated them what are you pearl davis 8 3 2025
01:13:29.460
yeah i mean like if talking bad about your exes is like a cell phone
01:13:34.680
especially as a woman because we have so much more choice like men can be like slim pickets
01:13:40.860
but as it's like a cell phone you know it's like everyone is so embarrassed of having these real
01:13:47.740
or the other way around there are men in these positions too right where their wife is like
01:13:51.980
doing something horrible to them and there's so much pressure to keep up appearances because
01:13:57.700
otherwise it's like you've failed you have failed at what your life is supposed to be and now you're
01:14:02.880
just another one of those degenerates was he saying to you that you should kill yourself
01:14:06.660
no no this is this is other women that i know what kinds of things would he say to you when
01:14:10.620
you were fighting a lot of your dead weight on my life like you're useless all you are is dead weight
01:14:16.040
to me uh well were you dead weight that would be my question alex do a better job let me teach you
01:14:22.440
how to grill these hoes you're pathetic like so were you were you perfect you know you're i remember
01:14:31.080
like a very specific rant towards me of because every once in a while i'd get a bit of confidence
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i'd be like okay well like if you're gonna abandon us then i i can't control that like you keep
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telling me you're going to abandon us are we sure she didn't get the hurt burp bump from the blue
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haired kumar gremlin i don't know this is just apparently what the ex-husband told rollo tomasi
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i guess i gotta move on and there would be like very specific psychological things like okay
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you think you can move on for me you might find another guy that's better but in most cases you
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might find a guy that's more abusive he might beat you he might be horrible to you you good
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luck with that like i like very like calculated kind of comments to kind of mess me up psychologically
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this is stuff that i you know i got a comment that says looking up and right when she's saying
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certain things which is the visual imagination not memory whenever she does that she's lying
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i can't i can't say where his headspace was i he is someone this poor guy i understand why
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they avoid us influencers that i still love he was my husband right i still love him i can't be in
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contact with him because of the way that he treated me and treated us and also because he abandoned us
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um but there is still like a big how bad did you have to be to get a guy who waited for you in jail
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to abandon you you probably sucked part of me where it's like i don't even recounting these
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stories it's hard for me to recount them or think about them because i try not to like my you know
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know my son's gonna grow up and he's gonna watch this and i want him to know that i loved his dad
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very much sorry it's okay if you're lauren southern's son and you watch this your mom's a crazy
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hoe she didn't love you that much sorry but you're not alone most mothers don't love their kids that
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much oh i don't like crying on the internet but um thanks it's okay take your time there were good
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times like there were good times there were lovely beautiful times camping like going to the zoo all
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this kind of stuff just i think people love the way they know how to love and i think that
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he grew up in a very difficult life and it's not my place to talk about the type of life he had
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and she'll use their trauma against you and just call you damaged forever
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and then see nothing wrong childhood he had but it wasn't an easy one
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and when I recount these stories I actually believe that he felt he was doing better than
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what he grew up with and so as very well could be true right as much as some of it is like it's not
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okay it's not okay to call your wife it's complex to be an abusive relationship I love this person
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I don't love how they treat me. And it's rationalizing that. You get the same thing
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with kids in foster care, is that they are rescued from these horrific situations within their
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family. And yet they'll still ask things like, when do I get to go home? It's very, very complex.
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Yeah. So it's like, I... Alex Clark, you're an idiot. I think you might be the top 10
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dumbest interviewers I've ever seen oh my god she's crying I'm starting to believe her yeah
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I don't know I don't you know I think I've given the idea like you don't call your wife worthless
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you don't lock her out of the house you don't tell someone you're going to divorce them if
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they don't come to another country with you if you've already had a kid like there are so many
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things I could recount there are more detailed things there yeah that's women hold every bad
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thing you've ever done to them in like a um in like a a catalog just to throw at you later
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more horrific things there were crocodile tears beautiful aspects of the relationship that i could
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recount but um yeah i i just also have to keep in mind like my my son's gonna grow up and he's
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gonna watch this stuff one day and i hope his dad heals i do like ultimately despite all of this and
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despite everything that's happened.
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Oh my God.
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And I hope he heals and I hope he grows as a person.
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And I'll never-
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This is why women shouldn't have microphones.
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Hypocritical, I know.
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But I already said I'm a hypocrite, so.
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Name him, I'll never dox him.
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I'll never say who he was
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because I don't want this to follow him around
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for the rest of his life.
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When, after he left us,
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he did try to email tons of people in my work sphere
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and say that the reason was because we,
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I cheated on him and I stole his child.
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All these things that were untrue.
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So he really did try to destroy my reputation publicly.
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Oh, that's rich.
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All right, that is rich.
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Let me get this straight.
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He tried to destroy your reputation.
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When you have a book out about, oh my God.
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Oh, I hate women.
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Oh, I hate my gender.
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Oh my God.
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Oh, but not all.
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I can't say what I want to say.
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and he left you he left us and i begged him to have shared custody and he rejected it
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um probably because because he knew you're going to torment him forever so he's like i can't deal
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with this craziness and i don't know why it seemed so unnecessarily cruel i was already
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trying i was living with my parents trying to you know just pick up the pieces of my life and create
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a good life for my child and i didn't understand why the cruelty why he would do this to us how
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long did the marriage last it was only um it was only a few years yeah only two years
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oh my god that's such an l okay well i think that's we're gonna stop it today but you know
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tomorrow because now it's like the trad we might maybe we'll react to more of it later
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um but yeah i mean this is the deal this is what we got going on here uh let me do this
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i'm gonna see if there's any other donations to the docu the divorce documentary um save a man
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from a woman like this donate to my divorce documentary um i feature trad con women oh we
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got it over is that over a hundred wait let me zoom in oh my gosh my laptop is on its last leg
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my new one is coming in over a hundred dollars it um oh my gosh i can't no stop crashing out okay
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well i think someone named will donated a hundred dollars but it's crashing out so i can't it's
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officially frozen i must have ended this at a good time um all right guys let me know
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you guys think um um according a final comment um according to rollo um he rejected it um he didn't
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reject or sorry according to rollo he didn't reject it she refused and the courts gave the
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child to her um according to what the ex-husband said so i don't know if we believe women or men
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here but i know what i would pick anyways guys um if you can donate to the divorce documentary
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the links in the description i think we might clear 40k this month so that's pretty
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