Pearl - November 04, 2025


Leonarda Jonieļ¼š Bringing Back Shame Culture Is BASED


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5 minutes

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1,044

Sentence count

115

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Misogyny

33

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Toxicity

15

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Hate speech

25

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In this episode, we talk about why women should have more choice when it comes to choosing a mate and why it s not a good idea. We also talk about the reasons why women don t want to get married at 20.

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00:00:00.000 That's why I kind of like try to tell these women, 0.98
00:00:01.820 like the person you pick is a huge,
00:00:07.380 huge determination of your happiness in life and wellbeing.
00:00:12.880 And it goes beyond money. It's important.
00:00:15.560 You don't want to be with a loser who can't work, 0.98
00:00:17.640 who has no ambition. Like that's not good. 0.99
00:00:20.240 There's a reason women don't want those guys. And that's, 1.00
00:00:23.380 that's good.
00:00:24.220 At 30, at 20, most women. 0.99
00:00:26.740 That's what I'm saying to women at 20,
00:00:28.440 you should be doing that because you don't have that much time.
00:00:31.220 Yeah. But they won't. Yeah. Like it's, it's not going to happen.
00:00:36.000 Women are like, 1.00
00:00:36.960 women are going to push off marriage as long as humanly possible. 1.00
00:00:40.440 Unless you change the cultural narrative,
00:00:45.340 you bring back those old mores of this is shameful and that's not cool.
00:00:53.100 And it, and the zoomers. 0.63
00:00:55.260 Yeah. You can't shame women into submission. In my opinion, you can't.
00:00:58.320 Well, it used to work.
00:01:00.300 Um, no, I would just, I disagree. I don't really,
00:01:03.360 you don't think so. I think it worked. I kept,
00:01:05.200 I think it kept a lot of women in line. 1.00
00:01:07.980 I think it kept women in my grandmother's generation. 0.99
00:01:10.560 As soon as women got the chance to leave, 1.00
00:01:12.480 even women that were born in the twenties and thirties,
00:01:14.880 one of the highest divorce rates was in, um,
00:01:17.940 it was either 1960 or 70.
00:01:20.280 And these are women that were born in times that were better. 0.86
00:01:22.980 Uh, I mean, cause again, I don't look at what we win.
00:01:26.360 I look at what women are choosing. 0.99
00:01:28.020 Yeah.
00:01:28.500 And as soon as women got the choice, 0.86
00:01:29.760 but hold on, when they got the choice,
00:01:31.860 when they got the choice,
00:01:33.180 the stigma around that had already fallen away.
00:01:37.180 There wasn't a huge stigma around it.
00:01:39.940 Yeah. But even before that,
00:01:41.380 there's like examples of war brides. 1.00
00:01:43.200 Like there was a law path.
00:01:44.460 I'm going to butcher this a little bit.
00:01:46.180 Cause I'd have to read about it again,
00:01:47.680 but there was a law passed somewhere in the United States to bring back
00:01:52.200 European wives. 1.00
00:01:53.380 Because when America was like winning in the war,
00:01:57.120 um,
00:01:58.300 essentially all of the women that were virgins on their wedding days and
00:02:02.280 married their high school sweethearts said, Oh, 0.99
00:02:04.080 the other soldiers are winning.
00:02:05.160 I'm going to bounce which other soldiers I can't remember.
00:02:08.800 I'm telling, I can't remember off the top of my head.
00:02:10.780 This is world war one.
00:02:12.800 Is that what you're saying?
00:02:14.380 I don't remember off.
00:02:15.660 I could look it up if you want it,
00:02:17.200 but we were losing a war.
00:02:19.160 Is that right?
00:02:20.040 Basically women abandoned because the other, 1.00
00:02:22.880 um, soldiers won.
00:02:24.600 I can't remember which ones,
00:02:25.880 but there was a law passed.
00:02:27.840 I'm fairly sure it was in the United States.
00:02:29.800 Okay.
00:02:30.440 Basically,
00:02:31.360 um,
00:02:31.760 allowing for more immigration because all the women left, 1.00
00:02:35.160 their high school loves and went to the winning soldiers.
00:02:38.380 Yeah.
00:02:38.860 Well,
00:02:39.300 you can't shame women out of doing it.
00:02:41.180 Hold on.
00:02:41.560 That's not,
00:02:41.940 that's not,
00:02:42.260 that's a survival strategy.
00:02:44.120 Well,
00:02:44.280 it still is.
00:02:45.180 Women are always going to go for the highest status man. 1.00
00:02:47.680 Yeah.
00:02:47.900 So that's what I'm saying.
00:02:49.280 Men got to just win again.
00:02:51.720 Yeah.
00:02:52.120 But women are going to want to go for the highest status man in the college, 1.00
00:02:56.060 in the city,
00:02:56.640 in their hometown.
00:02:58.520 So that's why women are always going to share men when given to you either take away choice 1.00
00:03:02.840 from women.
00:03:03.560 Uh-huh.
00:03:04.280 Um,
00:03:04.640 you go back to arranged marriages where women don't have as much choice or you give 0.98
00:03:10.220 women choice and women are going to share men. 0.99
00:03:12.020 Yeah.
00:03:12.380 I don't think arranged marriages are good,
00:03:13.820 but for a different reason.
00:03:17.100 Well,
00:03:17.880 I'm just saying when you give women choice, 1.00
00:03:19.980 women will share men. 0.98
00:03:20.820 I'm just saying Pakistanis have arranged marriages and they all look very dysgenic. 1.00
00:03:26.320 Oh, 0.77
00:03:26.540 you're saying,
00:03:26.840 you're saying like,
00:03:29.300 I'm saying when you don't do mate selection,
00:03:31.500 basically,
00:03:32.740 uh,
00:03:33.220 you don't have those reproductive pressures. 1.00
00:03:36.720 Yeah.
00:03:36.980 That cause people to select more attractive,
00:03:39.240 more capable mates.
00:03:40.520 And this is a real problem.
00:03:42.800 And I think you'll see it in a lot of these cultures in which they're kind of guaranteed
00:03:46.780 a spouse.
00:03:48.260 The men.
00:03:49.320 Well,
00:03:49.640 yeah,
00:03:49.740 there's no burden of performance for the men,
00:03:51.600 but,
00:03:51.860 but it goes back to the problem.
00:03:53.900 Yeah.
00:03:54.080 Because you want to.
00:03:54.960 And the women are not very. 0.94
00:03:56.900 Men,
00:03:57.400 like men want to obfuscate women,
00:03:59.960 like their burden of performance in a relationship by appealing to society and saying,
00:04:04.820 society do my job for me. 0.95
00:04:06.400 Shame these women. 1.00
00:04:07.320 They can't.
00:04:07.940 They won't. 0.77
00:04:08.240 Women do not care about men. 1.00
00:04:09.640 They're the opinion of men.
00:04:11.000 They're not sleeping with.
00:04:11.960 Oh yeah.
00:04:13.380 They don't.
00:04:13.860 Yeah.
00:04:14.480 Yeah.
00:04:15.000 Yeah.
00:04:15.260 I mean,
00:04:15.940 I don't.
00:04:16.700 Yeah.
00:04:17.240 So,
00:04:17.520 you know,
00:04:18.440 what,
00:04:18.660 what,
00:04:18.980 what they care about the opinion of other women though. 1.00
00:04:22.060 Not really.
00:04:23.120 Well,
00:04:23.580 they do try to fit in with like what the girls are saying and not upset the apple cart.
00:04:28.740 They're not going to stand out,
00:04:29.880 you know,
00:04:30.660 which I think it's back to that tribal survival strategy.
00:04:33.800 Yeah.
00:04:34.040 Well,
00:04:35.000 my only point is if women have choice, 1.00
00:04:37.000 they will bang the same guys.
00:04:38.300 So it's either women have choice or they don't have choice. 1.00
00:04:41.540 And that's,
00:04:42.140 and that's the tough question people have to answer.
00:04:44.600 Yeah.
00:04:44.960 Do you want women to have choice in who they marry? 1.00
00:04:47.980 Do you want to force women to have sex with men they are not attracted to? 0.74
00:04:51.880 That's the real question. 0.75
00:04:53.260 I don't,
00:04:53.640 I don't know about that.
00:04:54.300 If you want women to only have sex with men they are attracted to, 0.98
00:04:56.980 women will always pick 20% of men. 0.99
00:04:59.280 Always.
00:05:00.900 Always. 0.99
00:05:01.460 Don't be a loser. 0.99
00:05:03.340 I agree. 0.99
00:05:04.040 I'm not a,
00:05:04.580 look at,
00:05:05.520 I'm just saying you can't have both.
00:05:07.740 Do you know what I'm saying?
00:05:08.500 Like,
00:05:08.540 yeah,
00:05:09.020 but okay.
00:05:09.520 Yeah.
00:05:09.680 I don't think you can force women to have sex. 0.91
00:05:11.820 I,
00:05:11.980 I,
00:05:12.160 I just don't,
00:05:13.140 that would be like,
00:05:13.680 that would be like,
00:05:14.380 you know,
00:05:15.040 forcing men to marry women they're not attracted to.
00:05:18.980 You know,
00:05:19.080 it's not right.
00:05:19.840 And that's what women, 1.00
00:05:20.520 that's what feminism is. 1.00
00:05:21.720 It's women want the ability to have sex with who they are. 1.00
00:05:24.300 They're attracted to. 0.94