Matt Walsh is a conservative commentator, pundit, and media personality. He is married to conservative commentator Sarah Stock and they have two kids together. He has been married to Sarah since 2004 and they live together in their home in the suburbs of Washington, D. But he says he doesn t want to get married because he doesn't have a good enough relationship with his wife.
00:00:00.000All right. So today I want to talk about how nobody has men's best interests at heart.
00:00:09.440Now, what you have is you have high status men and low status men. Now, I would say high status
00:00:15.460men are all the influencers and commentators. They get to mingle with world leaders. They have
00:00:20.520a lot of influence. They have a good amount of power. On top of that, well, business owners,
00:00:27.080men that make over a certain amount a year, I would say would be high status men,
00:00:34.940high earning, high status. But they do not think about the average man and how the average man
00:00:44.760is affected by marriage. So in my experience, so I've interviewed people for our divorce
00:00:48.820documentary. I tried it the first time around. I tried to make my divorce documentary and these
00:00:54.420crazy people stopped it. I got deplatformed, all this stuff. So I had to redo it. But when I was
00:00:59.980making it the first time, I was getting all this footage, right? And I was interviewing people.
00:01:05.960And I found that the people that got it the worst were not the rich men in family court.
00:01:11.140Because a lot of times the rich men, I mean, they can afford a lawyer. They can afford to fight.
00:01:16.380Although some maybe got unlucky and got a terrible judge. The guys that got it the worst were men
00:01:21.960that were in the middle class. They can't afford to pay lawyers. They can't afford to fight for
00:01:28.220their kids. And so a lot of high status men, the only reason Matt Walsh can do what he does
00:01:35.300is because of the average man, right? The average men work in the factory that's building his
00:01:41.440microphone. The average men do the construction on the road so he gets to work.
00:01:48.260the average men do the plumbing in his building it's not the men um he would not be able to do
00:01:57.500his job without the men that allow him to be there but he still is telling average men to take
00:02:03.220make decisions as a high status man sometimes marriage makes sense for men in high status
00:02:10.620positions you know sometimes it can be done you know in all of history we've had dowries and so
00:02:15.480marriage was done to acquire resources. You know, you married a rich bitch and then you got her
00:02:20.240daddy's money. Sometimes it's genetics, right? But average men, the issue with Matt Walsh is it
00:02:28.880doesn't matter how bad the chessboard is. He keeps telling average men, keep sacrificing for me and
00:02:37.780my kids. I have a life. I have a family. But average men, most of them aren't going to get
00:02:44.360I would say half of men are not going to be able to reproduce. So he's saying sacrifice for society
00:02:50.440because it benefits my children. All right. So. Today, the Matt Walsh show, a sex scandal among
00:02:58.680conservative influencers perfectly illustrates why many young men are reluctant to get married
00:03:03.360and have children, but they still should even in spite of the risks. And I'll make that argument
00:03:07.300today. Also, tragedy strikes the nation as the Washington Post delays off hundreds of useless
00:03:12.860journalist bill gates tries to explain his appearance in the epstein files and a woke
00:03:17.420school board member brings a school board meeting to a halt so that she can lecture someone for
00:03:21.500using the term homeless apparently unhoused is the preferred term although nobody can explain
00:03:26.220why all of that and more today on the matt walsh show now mind you when you go down
00:03:31.100look at these comments so let me let me keep going and then we can talk about it later okay
00:03:45.320all right let me go past a little further then the uh elijah shaffer scandal
00:04:00.260surfaced, revealing that Schaefer, a conservative commentator who is married and has children,
00:04:06.580was apparently having an affair with Sarah Stock, who's a conservative commentator,
00:04:11.120and who at the time was dating the man that she would eventually marry.
00:04:14.620This has been interesting timing because it's a story that perfectly illustrates the counter-argument,
00:04:20.920the reason why so many young people are so reluctant to get married and have children in the first place.
00:04:27.240Now, as to the specifics of the scandal, I'll go into a few of the details in a moment, not because this is a drama channel, but because it's the kind of thing we must contend with that we want to make the case for marriage and family life.
00:04:41.620Now, if I were to try to do a monologue right now.
00:04:43.660By the way, the challenge with using your relationship to build your brand, it's just never a good idea.
00:04:50.960it is not a good idea because um who are they going to attack first
00:04:59.660like let's say you got an enemy as a guy
00:05:03.740he's gonna hit on your wife now he knows where to find her you know like i'm like what are you
00:05:10.220doing you guys are dumb that topic all the comments would be well what about this you
00:05:15.540see this scandal over here this is exactly why we don't want to get married so let's just um
00:05:19.620And let's lean into that, as much as I hate that phrase.
00:05:24.940I think that those of us on the pro-family side, oftentimes, it's true to say, haven't
00:05:31.500done a good enough job of acknowledging and accounting for the enormous risks and downside
00:05:38.200to marriage that young people are confronting at increasing rates, no matter how hard they
00:05:43.540try to find a compatible, moral Christian spouse.
00:05:47.720our culture is decaying in order to stop the decay we need people to form stable and loving
00:05:52.840so he's saying stop the decay of our culture now again he's not looking out for you
00:05:59.960he's looking out for himself because he doesn't want to live in this culture
00:06:06.840right families but it's harder to form stable living families while the culture is decaying
00:06:11.320Now, people in the red pill and so-called manosphere spaces have been making this point for a long time and have taken a lot of heat for it. I've had plenty of arguments with people on that side about this. Entire shows on Netflix have been written about how awful their opinions are and how they've created this manosphere that traffics in dangerous misogyny and so on.
00:06:35.820But, you know, the truth is when the writer's room at Netflix is so enraged about your views that they start putting you in their shows, then it means that you're on to something.
00:06:46.640Now, let's let's talk about this issue from the perspective of a young man.
00:06:51.820And to anyone who accuses me of only blaming the woman in this story, keep in mind that we talked about this yesterday and I spent.
00:06:58.760Yeah, because the man, Elijah's goaded a little bit for banging all these e-girls.
00:07:02.680if you look at elijah's alleged roster okay
00:07:09.400now i don't know if these are true or untrue but i'm just saying this is alleged
00:07:13.800and the fact that this is alleged is pretty goaded okay sorry emily you're on the list
00:07:19.560true or untrue i don't know but i'm not really gonna believe you she's pretty hot okay young
00:07:25.000emily like she's pretty hot pretty hot okay then we got um sarah stock pretty hot um savannah
00:07:42.920hernandez i think was the other one pretty hot all right especially young
00:07:50.680young you just can't you can't tell me that these women are not hot like that's a little
00:07:57.220bit impressive now you might say yeah they're mid they're mid yeah i mean yeah we're in
00:08:01.760conservative media but um how many of you got like five mids on your roster
00:08:08.080elijah schaefer it's alleged right um sarah stock that came out he did in fact do that but
00:08:18.840these are alleged. And there's so many more just like them. 20 minutes discussing why Schaefer was
00:08:25.340wrong to cheat on his wife and how married men should behave so that they don't commit those
00:08:31.660sins. So we've talked about that. Today we're going to flip it around and focus on the other
00:08:37.900side because here's what the story demonstrates. It's not always enough to say that you should
00:08:44.960date a woman who goes to church who says that she opposes abortion who says that she's never slept
00:08:50.960with anyone outside of marriage spends every day talking about conservative principles for a living
00:08:56.880and who will in her case literally stand by your side in front of the pope as he blesses both of
00:09:02.320you now woman can do all those things and convince you that she means every word of what she's saying
00:09:08.800that she'll be a fantastic mother to your children and then you find out one day that in fact she was
00:09:13.120lying to you the whole time she was actually having an affair with her boss behind your back
00:09:17.220she was grinning as the pope blessed your relationship while she was thinking about
00:09:22.640her other boyfriend and here's the thing if you don't learn the truth soon enough
00:09:27.540then she could not too far in the future walk away with half of your assets including your house
00:09:33.600along with alimony for life he just made the case sorry don't get married now this is not some
00:09:39.800fantastical hypothetical scenario. It's what apparently happened to the man who was engaged
00:09:46.100to Sarah Stock. And look, they're going to make the case and nobody is thinking about the guy
00:09:50.780who is engaged to Sarah Stock. Everyone's thinking about Sarah and Elijah. But the real victim is
00:09:55.960the guy that married the broad. Briefly, perhaps briefly, went by the name Sarah Setka. Sarah is
00:10:05.560a relative newcomer in the whole trad woman conservative influencer space and she put out
00:10:11.880posts like this one when she got engaged this is from august of 2025 uh she writes i want that's
00:10:18.640incredible i want to double check all these people matt walsh ring e-girls
00:10:25.080i like how he look at this he covered this story before
00:10:37.220and none of them i was the only person that said hey this is a red flag that she's posting her
00:10:46.960ring on the internet all of the conservatives covered this story there's never any humility
00:10:52.360when I'm proven right. Ever. Never any humility. They all, what a, all right, whatever.
00:11:04.740Along with a picture of her engagement ring. And as you can see there, Charlie Kirk, who was
00:11:08.820actually an honest and wholesome person, responded, congrats. Marriage is amazing.
00:11:15.200Lots of people responded that way. Makes sense to respond. Someone got engaged. It's a happy
00:11:19.740thing. You say congratulations. Then there's this post from Sarah Stock, which she wrote in November
00:11:24.220of 2024. Quote, the idea that women are waiting until marriage, who are waiting until marriage
00:11:30.140are doing it to manipulate men into marrying them so they can leave and take all their money is kind
00:11:34.100of schizo, in my opinion. And you probably have a 0.01% chance of that happening. Anyone who's
00:11:39.520going to be a forever bachelor and never procreate because they're not willing to take that risk,
00:11:43.580especially with a woman they love and trust, is NGMI, not going to make it.
00:11:49.140Waiting until marriage also has statistically better results for the marriage.
00:11:53.740And six months later, in April 2025, Stock announced that she had converted to Catholicism.
00:11:59.680Stock wrote a quote, I'm officially Catholic.
00:12:01.780And then she wrote, Ave Christus Rex, meaning Hail Christ the King.