Pearl - February 07, 2026


Matt Walsh Accidentally Makes The Case Against Marriage

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middle-class men in divorce
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Sarah Stock Matt Walsh Schaefer Charlie Kirk Christus Rex Elijah
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Matt Walsh is a conservative commentator, pundit, and media personality. He is married to conservative commentator Sarah Stock and they have two kids together. He has been married to Sarah since 2004 and they live together in their home in the suburbs of Washington, D. But he says he doesn t want to get married because he doesn't have a good enough relationship with his wife.

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00:00:00.000 All right. So today I want to talk about how nobody has men's best interests at heart.
00:00:09.440 Now, what you have is you have high status men and low status men. Now, I would say high status
00:00:15.460 men are all the influencers and commentators. They get to mingle with world leaders. They have
00:00:20.520 a lot of influence. They have a good amount of power. On top of that, well, business owners,
00:00:27.080 men that make over a certain amount a year, I would say would be high status men,
00:00:34.940 high earning, high status. But they do not think about the average man and how the average man
00:00:44.760 is affected by marriage. So in my experience, so I've interviewed people for our divorce
00:00:48.820 documentary. I tried it the first time around. I tried to make my divorce documentary and these
00:00:54.420 crazy people stopped it. I got deplatformed, all this stuff. So I had to redo it. But when I was
00:00:59.980 making it the first time, I was getting all this footage, right? And I was interviewing people.
00:01:05.960 And I found that the people that got it the worst were not the rich men in family court.
00:01:11.140 Because a lot of times the rich men, I mean, they can afford a lawyer. They can afford to fight.
00:01:16.380 Although some maybe got unlucky and got a terrible judge. The guys that got it the worst were men
00:01:21.960 that were in the middle class. They can't afford to pay lawyers. They can't afford to fight for 0.98
00:01:28.220 their kids. And so a lot of high status men, the only reason Matt Walsh can do what he does
00:01:35.300 is because of the average man, right? The average men work in the factory that's building his 0.95
00:01:41.440 microphone. The average men do the construction on the road so he gets to work.
00:01:48.260 the average men do the plumbing in his building it's not the men um he would not be able to do
00:01:57.500 his job without the men that allow him to be there but he still is telling average men to take
00:02:03.220 make decisions as a high status man sometimes marriage makes sense for men in high status
00:02:10.620 positions you know sometimes it can be done you know in all of history we've had dowries and so
00:02:15.480 marriage was done to acquire resources. You know, you married a rich bitch and then you got her 1.00
00:02:20.240 daddy's money. Sometimes it's genetics, right? But average men, the issue with Matt Walsh is it 1.00
00:02:28.880 doesn't matter how bad the chessboard is. He keeps telling average men, keep sacrificing for me and
00:02:37.780 my kids. I have a life. I have a family. But average men, most of them aren't going to get
00:02:44.360 I would say half of men are not going to be able to reproduce. So he's saying sacrifice for society
00:02:50.440 because it benefits my children. All right. So. Today, the Matt Walsh show, a sex scandal among
00:02:58.680 conservative influencers perfectly illustrates why many young men are reluctant to get married
00:03:03.360 and have children, but they still should even in spite of the risks. And I'll make that argument
00:03:07.300 today. Also, tragedy strikes the nation as the Washington Post delays off hundreds of useless
00:03:12.860 journalist bill gates tries to explain his appearance in the epstein files and a woke
00:03:17.420 school board member brings a school board meeting to a halt so that she can lecture someone for
00:03:21.500 using the term homeless apparently unhoused is the preferred term although nobody can explain
00:03:26.220 why all of that and more today on the matt walsh show now mind you when you go down
00:03:31.100 look at these comments so let me let me keep going and then we can talk about it later okay
00:03:45.320 all right let me go past a little further then the uh elijah shaffer scandal
00:04:00.260 surfaced, revealing that Schaefer, a conservative commentator who is married and has children,
00:04:06.580 was apparently having an affair with Sarah Stock, who's a conservative commentator,
00:04:11.120 and who at the time was dating the man that she would eventually marry.
00:04:14.620 This has been interesting timing because it's a story that perfectly illustrates the counter-argument,
00:04:20.920 the reason why so many young people are so reluctant to get married and have children in the first place.
00:04:27.240 Now, as to the specifics of the scandal, I'll go into a few of the details in a moment, not because this is a drama channel, but because it's the kind of thing we must contend with that we want to make the case for marriage and family life.
00:04:41.620 Now, if I were to try to do a monologue right now.
00:04:43.660 By the way, the challenge with using your relationship to build your brand, it's just never a good idea.
00:04:50.960 it is not a good idea because um who are they going to attack first
00:04:59.660 like let's say you got an enemy as a guy
00:05:03.740 he's gonna hit on your wife now he knows where to find her you know like i'm like what are you 0.99
00:05:10.220 doing you guys are dumb that topic all the comments would be well what about this you 0.99
00:05:15.540 see this scandal over here this is exactly why we don't want to get married so let's just um 0.99
00:05:19.620 And let's lean into that, as much as I hate that phrase.
00:05:24.940 I think that those of us on the pro-family side, oftentimes, it's true to say, haven't
00:05:31.500 done a good enough job of acknowledging and accounting for the enormous risks and downside
00:05:38.200 to marriage that young people are confronting at increasing rates, no matter how hard they
00:05:43.540 try to find a compatible, moral Christian spouse.
00:05:46.340 This is the catch-22.
00:05:47.720 our culture is decaying in order to stop the decay we need people to form stable and loving
00:05:52.840 so he's saying stop the decay of our culture now again he's not looking out for you
00:05:59.960 he's looking out for himself because he doesn't want to live in this culture
00:06:06.840 right families but it's harder to form stable living families while the culture is decaying
00:06:11.320 Now, people in the red pill and so-called manosphere spaces have been making this point for a long time and have taken a lot of heat for it. I've had plenty of arguments with people on that side about this. Entire shows on Netflix have been written about how awful their opinions are and how they've created this manosphere that traffics in dangerous misogyny and so on.
00:06:35.820 But, you know, the truth is when the writer's room at Netflix is so enraged about your views that they start putting you in their shows, then it means that you're on to something.
00:06:46.640 Now, let's let's talk about this issue from the perspective of a young man.
00:06:51.820 And to anyone who accuses me of only blaming the woman in this story, keep in mind that we talked about this yesterday and I spent.
00:06:58.760 Yeah, because the man, Elijah's goaded a little bit for banging all these e-girls. 1.00
00:07:02.680 if you look at elijah's alleged roster okay
00:07:09.400 now i don't know if these are true or untrue but i'm just saying this is alleged
00:07:13.800 and the fact that this is alleged is pretty goaded okay sorry emily you're on the list
00:07:19.560 true or untrue i don't know but i'm not really gonna believe you she's pretty hot okay young
00:07:25.000 emily like she's pretty hot pretty hot okay then we got um sarah stock pretty hot um savannah 0.80
00:07:42.920 hernandez i think was the other one pretty hot all right especially young
00:07:50.680 young you just can't you can't tell me that these women are not hot like that's a little 1.00
00:07:57.220 bit impressive now you might say yeah they're mid they're mid yeah i mean yeah we're in
00:08:01.760 conservative media but um how many of you got like five mids on your roster
00:08:08.080 elijah schaefer it's alleged right um sarah stock that came out he did in fact do that but
00:08:18.840 these are alleged. And there's so many more just like them. 20 minutes discussing why Schaefer was
00:08:25.340 wrong to cheat on his wife and how married men should behave so that they don't commit those 0.81
00:08:31.660 sins. So we've talked about that. Today we're going to flip it around and focus on the other 0.99
00:08:37.900 side because here's what the story demonstrates. It's not always enough to say that you should
00:08:44.960 date a woman who goes to church who says that she opposes abortion who says that she's never slept 0.78
00:08:50.960 with anyone outside of marriage spends every day talking about conservative principles for a living
00:08:56.880 and who will in her case literally stand by your side in front of the pope as he blesses both of
00:09:02.320 you now woman can do all those things and convince you that she means every word of what she's saying 1.00
00:09:08.800 that she'll be a fantastic mother to your children and then you find out one day that in fact she was
00:09:13.120 lying to you the whole time she was actually having an affair with her boss behind your back 1.00
00:09:17.220 she was grinning as the pope blessed your relationship while she was thinking about
00:09:22.640 her other boyfriend and here's the thing if you don't learn the truth soon enough
00:09:27.540 then she could not too far in the future walk away with half of your assets including your house 0.99
00:09:33.600 along with alimony for life he just made the case sorry don't get married now this is not some
00:09:39.800 fantastical hypothetical scenario. It's what apparently happened to the man who was engaged
00:09:46.100 to Sarah Stock. And look, they're going to make the case and nobody is thinking about the guy
00:09:50.780 who is engaged to Sarah Stock. Everyone's thinking about Sarah and Elijah. But the real victim is
00:09:55.960 the guy that married the broad. Briefly, perhaps briefly, went by the name Sarah Setka. Sarah is
00:10:05.560 a relative newcomer in the whole trad woman conservative influencer space and she put out
00:10:11.880 posts like this one when she got engaged this is from august of 2025 uh she writes i want that's 0.64
00:10:18.640 incredible i want to double check all these people matt walsh ring e-girls
00:10:25.080 i like how he look at this he covered this story before
00:10:37.220 and none of them i was the only person that said hey this is a red flag that she's posting her
00:10:46.960 ring on the internet all of the conservatives covered this story there's never any humility
00:10:52.360 when I'm proven right. Ever. Never any humility. They all, what a, all right, whatever.
00:11:04.740 Along with a picture of her engagement ring. And as you can see there, Charlie Kirk, who was
00:11:08.820 actually an honest and wholesome person, responded, congrats. Marriage is amazing.
00:11:15.200 Lots of people responded that way. Makes sense to respond. Someone got engaged. It's a happy
00:11:19.740 thing. You say congratulations. Then there's this post from Sarah Stock, which she wrote in November
00:11:24.220 of 2024. Quote, the idea that women are waiting until marriage, who are waiting until marriage 0.96
00:11:30.140 are doing it to manipulate men into marrying them so they can leave and take all their money is kind 0.99
00:11:34.100 of schizo, in my opinion. And you probably have a 0.01% chance of that happening. Anyone who's 0.83
00:11:39.520 going to be a forever bachelor and never procreate because they're not willing to take that risk,
00:11:43.580 especially with a woman they love and trust, is NGMI, not going to make it.
00:11:49.140 Waiting until marriage also has statistically better results for the marriage.
00:11:53.740 And six months later, in April 2025, Stock announced that she had converted to Catholicism.
00:11:59.680 Stock wrote a quote, I'm officially Catholic.
00:12:01.780 And then she wrote, Ave Christus Rex, meaning Hail Christ the King.
00:12:06.780 And then here's the thing.
00:12:10.140 Had they not made a big spectacle of their religion,
00:12:12.820 that's why people are pissed because you didn't have to make a big spectacle of your relationship
00:12:17.540 and your religion you didn't have to do that nobody put a gun to your head it's just incredible
00:12:23.620 it's her her photo with her husband receiving the pope's blessing
00:12:27.520 bruh was elijah at the wedding that's my question bruh there's never any humilities nobody's
00:12:39.960 apologized to me.
00:12:45.380 Now, I'm not prepared to say, as many have,
00:12:48.280 that her conversion was a scam and she never meant anything.
00:12:52.280 She said it was all a big ruse.
00:12:55.000 I can't see it.
00:12:55.860 I can't see inside her soul.
00:12:57.100 Isn't that incredible? 0.97
00:12:59.540 That's how cucked and simpy conservatives are. 0.98
00:13:03.580 You got bamboozled and lied to, 0.98
00:13:05.640 and you cannot even say that you got bamboozled and lied to.
00:13:09.300 lied to it's just incredible the simping never ends