Pearl - October 08, 2025


Stop Worshiping Women Who Sold Their Souls for Clicks

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John Bavir Pearl Mary Magdalene Pharisee Brown Michael Knowles Lila Rose Pharisees Taylor Jacob Dude Lisa
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In this episode, I sit down with my good friend and pastor's wife, Beth Moore, to talk about her life growing up in a religious household and how she was sexually abused as a child. We talk about how she dealt with it and how it shaped her into the woman she is today.

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00:00:00.000 I met great friends through that.
00:00:01.560 There were pastors speaking about me at their church services
00:00:05.180 because they were like, look at what she did.
00:00:07.180 She's the modern day Mary Magdalene.
00:00:09.500 Yeah, see, she wants to be worshipped. 0.88
00:00:11.260 That's what she's bringing this up.
00:00:12.660 It's not about God.
00:00:13.740 It's about her being worshipped.
00:00:15.320 We all get tested.
00:00:16.380 All women have guys trying to bang them from the time we're young. 1.00
00:00:19.720 And look it, I am not without sin.
00:00:21.280 I am no angel.
00:00:22.260 I'm never going to pretend I am.
00:00:23.540 But I don't think it took much to know to not get gang banged on camera.
00:00:27.460 I don't think that's that high of a threshold.
00:00:29.360 I don't think that's tested that hard.
00:00:31.440 I really don't.
00:00:32.460 I think that more women actually should get gang banged on camera 1.00
00:00:35.940 and just go say sorry afterwards. 0.98
00:00:37.980 If the Christians keep allowing these women to exploit them, 1.00
00:00:41.920 I hope more women do it till they learn. 1.00
00:00:44.440 I hope they get a flood.
00:00:46.620 Because if you guys can't learn any discernment,
00:00:50.380 I mean, you get exactly what you deserve.
00:00:53.780 Kind of like that.
00:00:54.400 That's how I see it.
00:00:55.560 Where someone is me, where I cherish my salvation.
00:00:58.020 Not that they don't, but I cherish it in such a crazy manner
00:01:01.260 because I knew that this was like my last chance.
00:01:03.840 God gave me one more chance and this was it.
00:01:05.980 I was baptized at seven.
00:01:07.620 Like for me, it was like being in a swimming pool.
00:01:09.540 I didn't know what it meant.
00:01:10.440 You know what I'm saying?
00:01:11.440 And getting saved at such a young age,
00:01:13.960 I don't remember any of it.
00:01:16.360 But now.
00:01:17.120 How convenient.
00:01:17.780 I conveniently forgot it when I wanted to get gang banged on camera.
00:01:22.820 It's like, yeah.
00:01:24.000 Making a conscious decision to serve God and be his child as an adult.
00:01:29.060 My parents are not over me.
00:01:30.500 No friends are influencing me.
00:01:32.040 It is my decision whether I want to be in eternity with God or eternity in hell.
00:01:37.560 And that was the most precious thing to me that I made that decision.
00:01:41.500 You know, thankfully my husband brought me to salvation.
00:01:44.080 He brought me to the door, but I had to open it.
00:01:46.200 So I think I cherish it on such a deep level.
00:01:49.360 Whereas other people who are casting stones, they don't.
00:01:53.000 They realize that they've been saved their whole life.
00:01:54.840 That they would never go astray.
00:01:56.240 They would never do the things that I've done.
00:01:57.780 They would never sell their body online.
00:01:59.620 They would never.
00:02:00.060 Like, why can't you just be ashamed and like go pray privately?
00:02:04.560 Why does this have to be a spectacle?
00:02:06.580 Be promiscuous and yet cast stones at somebody.
00:02:11.020 Cast.
00:02:12.000 Woo.
00:02:12.580 Cast the stone.
00:02:13.400 I wouldn't be cast in the stone if you were just sitting in church, but you're not sitting
00:02:17.260 in church.
00:02:17.700 You're going on podcasts and drawing all this attention.
00:02:19.920 Do a terrible story.
00:02:21.460 This is an awful story. 1.00
00:02:22.540 You're a terrible person. 1.00
00:02:23.440 The things you did were terrible. 0.93
00:02:25.660 So now that you want this get out of jail free card, God may give it to you, but we
00:02:30.000 don't have to.
00:02:30.940 We don't.
00:02:31.960 Go to the back of the church. 1.00
00:02:33.240 Shut the F up and go be a wife and a mother. 1.00
00:02:35.400 Who had a very different life than them. 1.00
00:02:38.040 Very different life.
00:02:39.040 And people are always saying like, oh, you can't blame your childhood.
00:02:42.900 Believe it or not.
00:02:43.760 Your childhood has a lot to do with how you grow up.
00:02:47.180 Your influences as parents, your siblings.
00:02:50.180 You can't blame your childhood because there's people with worse childhoods than you that did
00:02:54.380 not make the decision.
00:02:55.580 Things how they treated you.
00:02:56.600 I'm in the middle of five children. 0.95
00:02:58.220 Like imagine and my I'm in the middle of time to shut the F up.
00:03:03.080 Family was basically poor.
00:03:04.840 So and then my dad threw himself into being a pastor out of nowhere after he had like
00:03:09.160 cheated on my mom.
00:03:10.140 They divorced, remarried.
00:03:12.080 He had left our family to poverty, came back all of a sudden, like one day because he decided
00:03:17.880 he wanted to be a dad again and then became a pastor and then threw our family into religious
00:03:23.600 church ship, like being like the first in first out teaching Sunday schools, anything that
00:03:30.060 the church wanted to do.
00:03:30.980 I remember like notice how she's still blaming the parent.
00:03:33.900 It's never, you know what? 0.97
00:03:35.340 I was a slutty kid. 0.98
00:03:37.060 Dude, that sounds gross to say. 0.99
00:03:39.200 I was a disobedient kid and I did not listen.
00:03:44.280 And this is my character flaw.
00:03:46.360 It's always, it's how I was raised.
00:03:48.360 Opping floors being like, why the heck am I doing this, bro?
00:03:51.480 Because my dad told me to, not because I wanted to.
00:03:54.480 And so I just feel like if people would understand like other people like me who didn't grow up
00:04:01.060 the way they did or didn't have the opportunities that they did, it would just make a lot more
00:04:05.860 sense.
00:04:06.280 Like the abuse happened so psychologically.
00:04:08.360 And then there was other abuse that happened to me.
00:04:10.260 Like I was molested at 13 and I got into drugs because I needed an escape because I didn't
00:04:16.000 go through therapy.
00:04:17.040 You know what I'm saying?
00:04:17.760 There's just so many things.
00:04:18.980 And I take full responsibility for my actions because I made them as an adult.
00:04:22.960 So I understand that I made really bad decisions that did hurt other people, men and women alike.
00:04:28.740 And that's like, you know what I'm saying?
00:04:31.100 There's nothing else I could do about that other than pray for the people that I've hurt
00:04:34.680 and hope to goodness that they come to Christ, you know, because they were struggling too.
00:04:38.900 Men lusted after me because I was putting out content, but they were supplying a demand 0.77
00:04:42.340 for me to do it.
00:04:43.140 You know, there's a heart issue on both ends.
00:04:46.620 Sorry for the rant.
00:04:47.620 No, I loved it.
00:04:48.420 There's so much to unpack there.
00:04:50.000 And I wanted to say one thing.
00:04:51.140 When I met you at the gym and I was done speaking to you.
00:04:57.200 I had no idea who you were, by the way.
00:04:59.880 Vice versa.
00:05:00.660 We were just bumping into it.
00:05:01.720 It was meant to be.
00:05:02.480 I doubt it.
00:05:03.500 We're meant to meet.
00:05:04.580 You don't believe it.
00:05:05.560 I think this, when I met you, I didn't know this, but there was a mask on.
00:05:10.300 There was a version of you that you were displaying.
00:05:12.340 And there was a version of how you spoke, your mannerisms.
00:05:15.080 It was this character that you were wanting to display.
00:05:18.480 And when I saw you on the podcast and then they were shredding you and the way you held
00:05:24.300 yourself with such respect.
00:05:26.520 Oh my gosh.
00:05:28.580 Of course.
00:05:29.700 And integrity and the way you combated, but with like true wisdom.
00:05:32.960 I said, Nala, come on the show, open invite.
00:05:35.680 Come on the show.
00:05:37.100 Come on, honey. 1.00
00:05:38.600 Come on, sweetheart. 1.00
00:05:40.240 Let's get on the show.
00:05:41.580 Oh, there's, there's God's daughter that I was waiting for to pop up.
00:05:45.160 That's really cool.
00:05:46.440 That's one.
00:05:46.920 I wanted to just unpack two.
00:05:48.280 I wanted to apologize in our community.
00:05:51.180 There are a lot of vultures and wolves and you should have been met.
00:05:55.960 Oh, you're just so innocent.
00:05:57.880 You didn't have any of this coming.
00:06:00.360 It's just the evil men.
00:06:01.880 The evil men.
00:06:04.380 This is, this is what, this is why men will never allow women's rights to be repealed 0.77
00:06:09.500 because there's men like this that'll fight on the side of women for eternity.
00:06:12.980 At the door of celebration.
00:06:14.820 But I was with some people and that's who I hold close.
00:06:18.160 My husband, I met great friends through that.
00:06:21.000 There were pastors speaking about me on their, at their church services because they were
00:06:24.940 like, look at what she did.
00:06:26.260 She's the modern day Mary Magdalene.
00:06:28.560 And she, yeah, see, she wants to be worshiped.
00:06:30.380 That's what she's bringing this up.
00:06:31.780 It's not about God.
00:06:32.880 It's about her being worshiped.
00:06:34.400 The choice.
00:06:35.320 Like there's, this is the example that we should follow too.
00:06:38.500 You know, if you are broken, if you are hurting, we live in such a crazy society where,
00:06:42.040 you know, men are sleeping with their girlfriends out of wedlock. 1.00
00:06:45.740 Women are doing this. 1.00
00:06:46.280 Can you imagine someone that got tag-teamed on camera lecturing you about sleeping with
00:06:52.640 your boyfriend or girlfriend? 1.00
00:06:53.980 I'd rather just kill myself. 1.00
00:06:56.780 Same vice versa. 0.99
00:06:57.960 Women are like shoved into this like empowerment movement that we are independent. 1.00
00:07:02.960 We are boss babes. 0.79
00:07:03.920 We can make our bag.
00:07:05.440 Society's changed crazily.
00:07:07.400 Like it is so different from even 10 years ago.
00:07:10.820 And now we have the internet, you know what I'm saying?
00:07:13.380 Like, it's so great to see people like you guys spreading God's word in such a cool manner
00:07:18.740 because I feel like the Pharisees took it so wrong.
00:07:22.680 You're a Pharisee. 0.73
00:07:24.180 You.
00:07:25.620 You know what I'm saying?
00:07:26.160 Like they're taking laws, shoving it down people's throats and condemning them for, 0.99
00:07:30.160 you know, disobeying their laws all the while being major hypocrites. 0.98
00:07:33.480 You know what I'm saying? 0.97
00:07:34.460 Let's reflect the law.
00:07:35.860 Like, let's just go to the 10 commandments.
00:07:38.040 Half of the commandments is how you treat God.
00:07:40.420 The other commandment is how you treat your neighbor.
00:07:42.600 That's why when he was going up to the cross and he left them with two commandments.
00:07:45.960 And he says, if you fulfill this, you will fulfill the law.
00:07:49.400 One, love your God with all of your heart, all of your mind, all of your strength,
00:07:53.200 and then love your neighbor as yourself.
00:07:55.760 So you could seriously separate who's truly after Christ and who's just sitting there with
00:08:01.100 a badge like a Pharisee. 0.63
00:08:03.300 When somebody could look at another man and condemn them, what they do is they replace
00:08:07.560 themselves with God himself.
00:08:09.360 Because one thing you're doing is you're saying, I got to where I'm at by myself.
00:08:13.260 So then for I could judge you on where you're at.
00:08:15.980 But let's put it this way.
00:08:17.600 Say you had the wisdom to say, oh, I didn't want to do OnlyFans.
00:08:20.720 Who gave you that wisdom?
00:08:21.980 Who gave you an upbringing to give you that wisdom?
00:08:24.540 Who gave you a tongue to say no?
00:08:26.360 Who gave you the eyes to see clearly?
00:08:28.080 Who gave you the ears to hear the right ways?
00:08:29.780 So all of the things that you take praise and knock somebody down for, you're wielding
00:08:34.960 what God gave you as a gift and you punished your neighbor for it and they will be dealt
00:08:39.420 with.
00:08:39.620 How crazy it is that there's probably men that have studied the Bible their whole lives 0.99
00:08:44.200 trying to get on shows like this and they just get bypassed for a hooker. 1.00
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00:10:29.140 I would go nuts.
00:10:30.520 Wow.
00:10:30.880 They will be dealt with in a way like this.
00:10:32.800 When God shows up and they say, hey God, come here, he says, get away from me.
00:10:36.800 I never knew you because you didn't look after my kids. 0.99
00:10:40.080 You punished them.
00:10:40.880 You beat them.
00:10:41.580 You took the sword that I gave you and you smashed down on the child that I asked you
00:10:45.920 to go save and yet you put them in more bondage.
00:10:48.500 Right.
00:10:48.700 So true Christians should have never done that. 1.00
00:10:51.180 And I'm really happy.
00:10:52.240 My one question is this.
00:10:54.600 How do you keep going?
00:10:56.460 Because dude, when you're a brand new Christian.
00:10:58.420 Pearl, I get your point about gang bangs, but something about that Britney woman said was 1.00
00:11:03.260 that was valid that if you are not born and raised in certain environments, you will not
00:11:07.800 know and learn certain things or morals.
00:11:09.820 I disagree.
00:11:11.060 I think there's examples of people that weren't raised in terrible environments or even two siblings
00:11:15.740 in the same environment.
00:11:16.740 I think character is pretty evident from a young age.
00:11:20.280 I think most people kind of say the same.
00:11:22.240 I know little girls that are hard and they're just at high school or in middle school. 1.00
00:11:27.160 They didn't have an area code chirping at them.
00:11:30.460 You had the whole world chirping at you.
00:11:32.620 What kept you grounded in the roots of God?
00:11:35.180 So many things.
00:11:36.500 I'd say a community, even though my community was very small.
00:11:40.600 It included my husband, my best friend, Taylor and Jacob.
00:11:43.180 And then along the way, as I was getting invited on podcasts, Michael Knowles, Lila Rose, Isabel
00:11:49.180 Brown, Lisa.
00:11:51.320 Isabel Brown.
00:11:52.720 You know, it's crazy.
00:11:53.600 These people say I'm too controversial. 0.98
00:11:56.200 Not Knowles, obviously, but then they'll have on hookers. 1.00
00:11:59.800 They'll have on literal hookers and they're not too controversial. 1.00
00:12:02.960 But I, I am the Bavir and then reading.
00:12:06.920 I started reading John Bavir's books.
00:12:08.920 I'd never had a thirst for reading, especially in college.
00:12:11.400 I hated reading.
00:12:12.400 And then once I became a Christian, I was like, oh.
00:12:15.540 Yeah.
00:12:15.720 Cause she's motivated to use the Bible to lecture everybody. 0.98
00:12:18.940 So now she's going to be able to read a lot.
00:12:21.040 Gosh, I need to submerge myself.
00:12:23.000 I'm so thirsty for God.
00:12:24.440 So I sat in my home.
00:12:27.020 Everyone's thinking like I'm going on this, some major tour when really I go to a podcast,
00:12:31.140 come home and I'm stuck at home.
00:12:32.540 So I emerged myself in John Bavir's books about the Holy spirit, the awe of God, like
00:12:38.100 how to truly fear God.
00:12:40.180 And like, you can love God.
00:12:41.660 The best point he made was you can love God, but it doesn't mean you'll obey him just because
00:12:46.480 you love him.
00:12:47.160 If you fear God, you will obey him.
00:12:49.960 Because if you truly understand that God is the only one that can kill body and spirit,
00:12:55.820 who else do you need to fear?
00:12:57.340 And not only who else, but what else do you need to fear?
00:13:01.140 Physical objects, uh, situations in life, uh, financial burdens, relationships.
00:13:06.620 Why do you need to fear that?
00:13:08.000 If the one that's over your life and that's claiming to be your number one is the only one
00:13:12.760 you should be fearing.
00:13:14.040 There you go.
00:13:15.220 It takes so much stress away from me knowing that all the hate that came at me.
00:13:19.660 Don't get me wrong.
00:13:20.520 It did hurt for a while.
00:13:22.000 I was like, well, isn't it the consequences of being a cornstar? 0.92
00:13:27.100 Isn't it the consequence?
00:13:28.220 Look at, I have three hour essay videos dedicated to attacking me.
00:13:32.920 I would say I've gotten far more hate than this woman did for having opinions. 0.99
00:13:38.060 People don't like that.
00:13:39.540 She got gang banged on camera.
00:13:41.040 It's just the audacity.
00:13:42.320 This is 2025.
00:13:43.980 Like I thought I was doing the right thing.
00:13:46.080 And then I hear, oh my gosh, on like so many YouTube channels and the news was even like
00:13:51.480 talking about me.
00:13:52.400 And I was getting these like updates in my email from like, uh, what is it?
00:13:56.420 Like daily mail and stuff like mirror.
00:13:58.240 And like, all these are like, is it really true?
00:14:00.360 Is she just grifting? 0.92
00:14:01.220 And I'm like, I can't listen to that.
00:14:03.400 That's the world.
00:14:04.420 And yeah, so that's, that's their subtle way of saying I'm better than you, that you
00:14:09.580 are just the world and we are the moral ones.
00:14:12.400 That's why people hate moralists because they're always signaling that they're the moral ones
00:14:18.520 who just know everything. 1.00
00:14:19.900 And I'm here to say, go fuck yourself. 1.00
00:14:23.560 Go fuck yourself. 1.00
00:14:26.140 Um, you can't tell me anything once you've gotten tag teamed on camera, go to the back 1.00
00:14:30.680 of the church and shut the F up, do it enemy would have wanted nothing else, but to have 0.98
00:14:37.300 me turn my back on what I, nobody has a problem with you reading the Bible, but we 0.99
00:14:41.820 have a problem with you starting a Jesus ministry because it's encouraging other women to go down 1.00
00:14:47.600 the same path as you, which is get gang banged on camera, say sorry, and then make money off
00:14:51.640 of God after.
00:14:52.940 And I hope more women do it because the church people just need to learn their lesson. 1.00