Pearl - November 04, 2025


WE WANT OUR MONEY BACK @BenShapiro !

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Nick F Candace Owens Ben Shapiro Myron Steven Crowder Pearl
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Length

13 minutes

Words per minute

169.52

Word count

2,278

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Harmful content

Misogyny

10

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Toxicity

5

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Hate speech

6

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Summary

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Ben Shapiro crashed out on me and it was one of the most awkward things I ve ever done in my career, and it's not even close to what happened when I brought Nick F on as a guest on my show.

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00:00:00.000 what up guys welcome to my coffee talks if you hear anything in the background that is my dog
00:00:05.940 she just got a pup cup from Starbucks okay so today we're going to talk about Ben Shapiro
00:00:15.240 and his little crash out and I just have never seen a guy crash out this hard it was insane
00:00:23.060 okay so if you don't know because I realize some people haven't watched me I had one of the biggest
00:00:28.920 YouTube shows in the United States in 2023 so I went from playing volleyball overseas I started
00:00:35.240 a YouTube show and it rapidly got really really big okay and in this YouTube show I debated
00:00:41.780 about a thousand people that would come in and come out like day to day
00:00:46.000 so anyways in the peak of my career I made the mistake
00:00:58.920 I don't know if it was a mistake but the choice to bring on Nick F there was a lot of consequences
00:01:03.760 so for those of you that don't know Nick F is a very controversial right-wing pundit I guess you
00:01:09.580 could say he is a talk show um and he's very famous for his takes on like the Jays um I don't want to
00:01:17.420 say I'm going to say conspiracy theories about the people in power that's how I'm going to put it for
00:01:22.740 YouTube now that's not really my cup of tea um the reason I had him on personally was my show was about
00:01:29.360 relationships and I saw a clip of him going viral talking about people dating interracially
00:01:34.200 now for me personally um I've dated interracially I don't really have a problem with it I do understand
00:01:41.240 where he's coming from but I just thought it was a different take I'd never heard it so I brought him on
00:01:46.900 I ended up getting roped not roped but you know as I bring on this guy um there was like a third
00:01:54.100 party that sent me a clip of him on no jumper and I thought he was funny I thought he was charismatic
00:01:57.980 and at the time there just wasn't a huge barrier to entry to be honest to come on my show um
00:02:04.580 and I was doing like six live shows a week so this was a very busy time
00:02:09.860 I knew he was controversial but I didn't necessarily know the consequences I would have by bringing
00:02:16.740 him on so I bring on Nick F um I have an interview with him I get along with him pretty well
00:02:24.620 and this led to all a bunch of people in my personal life canceling me so
00:02:30.840 Nick F um he had some opinions about um racial opinions I guess you could say
00:02:43.000 so basically everybody I knew were a good chunk of the black people I knew just crashed out on me and 1.00
00:02:49.380 like I had a co-host that called me a colonizer um I had a bunch of my friends crash out on me
00:02:56.540 it made it very awkward I went to volleyball and these girls on my team were really mean to me for 0.98
00:03:01.720 having them on um and it was just this whole like it was just this whole thing you know so
00:03:10.620 anyways this got worse because even people I knew in the space like told you know sorry this got worse
00:03:23.220 because I started getting ambushed on every podcast I would go on so because I had this guy on
00:03:28.820 I would go on like um I can't remember their names of those two British comedians in England
00:03:34.360 they ambushed me with all these like attack questions about having Nick F on and I'm just an
00:03:39.940 interviewer right I don't have any really real opinions about the conspiracy stuff I think there's
00:03:45.780 some topics where you could just say I don't know enough about it I don't have the time to look
00:03:50.280 into that super in depth and look at all the sources it's interesting to listen to but it's just
00:03:55.200 not my cup of tea so I end up getting canceled uh my show ends up getting demonetized I lose all
00:04:01.740 this money um because I bring on this guy this was at a huge cost and it was crazy because it was for
00:04:08.540 a cause I wasn't even really associated with I brought him on for the um the race mixing or
00:04:16.020 sorry I hate that word but that's what they say um
00:04:19.420 friends like MTR crashed out on me my old co-host crashed out on me um
00:04:29.920 it's just a complete crash out
00:04:34.220 anyways so now this guy I think I was just a year early right I think I was just a year early
00:04:43.380 because now this guy's going on all the shows and nobody seems to have any backlash I'm like wow
00:04:48.560 it must be nice but the reason I have him on is because I think I have I have a real curiosity
00:04:55.140 about the world and that's why I do what I do I am a curious person and I love like I love talking
00:05:02.580 to people that have different opinions than me and I've always been have been able to see things from
00:05:09.580 other people's point of view even if I don't agree with them you know one of my really good friends I
00:05:14.240 talk about him a lot back home he's a vegan activist do I look like a vegan to you do I look
00:05:20.700 like that's something I'm ever gonna do no but he's a good person and I I can like I can see 0.55
00:05:27.700 outside of that if that makes sense and I just couldn't believe how many like cowards I guess
00:05:33.460 you could say there were in media these were men like twice my age saying oh no don't have him on
00:05:37.280 don't have him on and maybe I shouldn't have it did cost me a lot of money I guess I don't know but
00:05:42.280 you know I kind of look at it like we're kind of in a privileged class as people 0.93
00:05:47.840 um most people in society have these stupid jobs you have to go to every day you're working at 0.99
00:05:54.020 starbucks um you're a masseuse I don't just listed jobs you're a nail tech I've listed female jobs human 1.00
00:06:02.580 resources and I get this job where my job is to be a curious person do interviews in good faith
00:06:09.020 um and report the news and it's like I you know um who am I to not do that you know if I find somebody
00:06:18.080 interesting my audience will probably find him interesting fast forward to today Ben Shapiro
00:06:25.580 has a one hour long monologue just crashing out on this guy I had on my show
00:06:32.320 now my experience interviewing Nick F was he was a really nice guy he was really nice everyone said all
00:06:38.160 these terrible things about him but he was super polite I understood where he was coming from I
00:06:42.900 didn't necessarily agree with everything but I did understand where he was coming from
00:06:46.400 and it was honestly a positive experience um I really enjoyed the interview I thought it was fun
00:06:52.620 now Ben Shapiro um made basically an essay video which is what a lot of women do to me pulling up every 1.00
00:07:02.680 bad thing this guy has ever said and people do that to me a lot where you know if I slip up in a
00:07:08.580 conversation and say the wrong thing um or you know maybe I did say something insensitive or maybe I did
00:07:14.820 say something wrong you know they pull up a clip from years ago and just use it for life and this is a
00:07:20.700 tactic that women do women do this women will remind you of stuff you said six months ago instead of 1.00
00:07:27.260 getting over it women will remind you like over and over again of every bad thing you've ever said 1.00
00:07:33.300 out of context um that's a female tactic so it's so sad to me as an OG Daily Wire supporter
00:07:42.020 to watch the king of debate like basically be afraid to debate somebody I mean I guess I didn't
00:07:50.000 debate him but I was I wasn't afraid to have him on um and I think that's what a lot of people feel
00:07:59.000 like with the Daily Wire you know the Daily Wire promised they were a free speech platform and a lot
00:08:04.040 of us gave our money and our support to the Daily Wire over the years and I don't know as an OG I used
00:08:09.940 to be a really big fan of them I feel lied to because if you claim to be this free speech advocate
00:08:16.500 why don't you have the guy that has one of the hottest shows in the country right now on 0.99
00:08:21.600 and debate his ideas I don't really care about the conspiracy topic maybe it's not a conspiracy I don't
00:08:28.200 care for me it's not really about that it's the principle it's the principle that I lost millions of
00:08:35.380 dollars that I did not have I had to cut all of my staff for having him on I had to do all this
00:08:42.240 bullshit for having this guy on and the guy um that's worth like a hundred million dollars 0.60
00:08:50.320 you're afraid to have him on really we have one job we are elitists in society I'm driving a Honda 1.00
00:09:01.280 2007 Honda Civic
00:09:03.260 okay you yeah I've been to the Daily Wire they have a whole production team they have a whole staff
00:09:13.700 and you're afraid to debate this guy and his ideas you know I'm not saying be best friends with the guy
00:09:19.700 but you you can't debate him really why have we been giving you our money for a decade Ben
00:09:29.440 and they'll come back at me and they'll say but but Pearl he's above debating um and I understand
00:09:37.880 that thought process right because there are people you are above above debating but those are people
00:09:43.360 with no followers no cohesion of ideas which clearly this guy has you can't have as big of a show as
00:09:51.960 he has where he doesn't say anything that makes sense or that people resonate with so a lot of people
00:09:58.320 resonate with this then debate it
00:10:01.020 and it's very frustrating to me that I I lost all this money and I am more free speech than the the
00:10:14.340 so-called free speech people it's the same reason um if you don't know this Stephen Crowder who's
00:10:19.140 another free speech absolutist I mean he's been demonetized on YouTube for years these people
00:10:25.160 they claim they take your money claiming to be free speech and then they work with YouTube
00:10:29.100 but they're dishonest about it um they they're not honest about the fact that they they adhere to the
00:10:36.220 YouTube guidelines um in order to stay monetized I understand why they do it because it's very
00:10:42.300 difficult getting kicked off I mean it happened to me oh my god that was the worst year of my life
00:10:46.260 um but do you understand what I'm saying it's so frustrating I am pissed I'm watching this
00:10:53.340 and as a viewer I am pissed and I don't have an opinion one way or another about this J topic I
00:11:00.520 don't have an opinion on it I'm an I'm agnostic I'm just a viewer but I do have an opinion on free
00:11:06.080 speech it's like how dare you how dare you take all these people's money for a decade
00:11:12.700 and not debate him Myron's lost everything Myron's lost millions of dollars I've lost millions of
00:11:22.180 dollars Sneeko's lost millions of dollars the Tates have lost millions of dollars how is it that the
00:11:28.420 people in the red pill space are more courageous than the king of debate this I am so mad I shouldn't
00:11:37.480 be this mad about this but just as if you were why are you taking our money stop taking our money
00:11:44.240 if you don't believe in free speech if you don't believe in the free flow of ideas and if you're
00:11:49.080 going to use the same tactics that women use stop taking our money stop stop labeling yourself as free 0.98
00:11:57.500 speech you're not you know what you should have did Ben you should have had a debate with Candace Owens
00:12:03.180 I actually think that she crashed out on you guys she's a woman that's a woman do but 0.99
00:12:08.780 I mean instead of firing Candace Owens this should have been a spectacle this should have been 1.00
00:12:15.820 a coliseum match where the two of you debate and I think Ben could have taken Candace Owens but now 0.86
00:12:21.960 now um now you got to debate the king the king of this this topic
00:12:27.460 I lost everything I lost everything because I actually believed in freedom of speech
00:12:35.920 I really did I believed in talking to people that had different opinions than me whether or not I
00:12:43.780 agreed or I disagreed and it is sad to watch somebody that we have all given our support and
00:12:51.600 our money to for a decade be a coward on this be a coward what uh you know return the money
00:12:59.760 that's that's my final take return the money give us back our money because obviously you don't put
00:13:08.620 your money where your mouth is so anyways I I'm I'm sorry to be yelling during this but I just
00:13:14.480 I am so disappointed as a fan I'm so disappointed okay guys um let me know what you think in the
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