Pearl - January 30, 2026


"What Is An Anti-Feminist?" Pearl Schools Ian Collins


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Length

16 minutes

Words per Minute

189.11682

Word Count

3,202

Sentence Count

80

Misogynist Sentences

52

Hate Speech Sentences

23


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In this episode, we discuss feminism, divorce, and why women should be able to have equal rights with men. We also discuss the role of women in society and why they should have equal pay with their male counterparts.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 A lot of people are fascinated when somebody calls themselves anti-feminist.
00:00:03.660 Just tell us, what is an anti-feminist?
00:00:06.120 And if you had to write that out as a paragraph, what would it look like?
00:00:11.840 It's the right term, I would say.
00:00:13.720 I would describe what's going on.
00:00:16.320 And right now, feminism has given women a lot of power in society,
00:00:20.160 and all of society is crumbling because of it.
00:00:23.740 You can see this in family court.
00:00:25.500 Most men don't have access to their children.
00:00:27.200 after following a divorce.
00:00:29.000 You can see this just in, like, the behavior of women in society.
00:00:33.820 Essentially, we're just drunk on power.
00:00:36.940 Anti-feminist, the challenge with that term,
00:00:39.000 it kind of assumes you can do something about it,
00:00:41.960 and the world's kind of going the way it's going,
00:00:44.000 and there's nothing you can do.
00:00:46.040 So many would just simply say, no, hang on, Pearl, this is equality.
00:00:50.500 It's just equality.
00:00:51.700 Years ago, you go back to the 60s, you can go back further than that.
00:00:54.800 Women didn't have the vote.
00:00:55.920 women stayed at home now women have careers and this is of course you know in our lifetimes that's
00:01:01.780 now the norm i don't really like that view of history because when you think about it you know
00:01:07.140 we always talk about how women um don't have like they always say my body my choice right
00:01:14.680 but historically men had no choice what to do with their body if they were drafted
00:01:18.660 right i mean like they would literally be rounded up and sent to die in war so i don't know why we
00:01:24.740 have this idea that women um like in a way we were a protected class because we didn't have to fight
00:01:30.200 and die to maintain civilization men had to do that yeah like you could argue men were more
00:01:35.000 oppressed than women um you know because like what our oppression is cooking and cleaning
00:01:39.500 really and that's really what like that's really what i'm getting at is um it's just to the point
00:01:47.340 where women are spoiled brats i i did a show the other day and i'm just like what more do feminists
00:01:53.020 want you don't have to cook there's uber eats you have every reproductive right like in the uk you
00:01:58.180 have abortion up to six months how much more time do you need ladies that's insane that's crazy um
00:02:04.780 and they say it's about equality but then why don't men have equal rights when it comes to
00:02:09.860 their kids yeah why why don't why isn't it 50 50 custody of no child support no alimony is that
00:02:16.100 still the same in the states as well because certainly over here there's big issues around
00:02:20.620 yeah i mean it's everywhere i've done interviews on that topic in like ireland um here uh i've had
00:02:29.960 there's a guy in india who actually filmed like a 60 minute video detailing how he was going to
00:02:34.700 kill himself and he was doing it because of family court like this happens everywhere um
00:02:39.680 so essentially feminism what they want to do is they want men to fund their lifestyle and so they
00:02:46.400 do that either through the government benefits through taxes child support alimony and then they
00:02:51.020 still claim and say that they're oppressed so yeah it is that it's a curious claim to make
00:02:56.940 isn't it after a man's just lost his children it's rather sort of bizarre but you're right i mean it
00:03:02.280 is definitely tilted in a in a curious direction um some would say however you know nonetheless
00:03:08.200 it all comes back to yes if you want to be a housewife and a homemaker as i think the the
00:03:14.240 the fancy phrase now is then then what's wrong with that you know that's great if you want to
00:03:19.960 but if you don't want to what's wrong with that as well well there's nothing wrong with it necessarily
00:03:25.340 but the challenge is women tend to make their problem everybody's problem so if you want to
00:03:32.940 work and work for a lifetime that's fine but women make 85 percent of consumer buying decisions
00:03:38.240 and when you think about it that's especially insane because we're close to equal on the pay
00:03:43.680 gap so we spend money we don't have and so essentially like what women do is they run out
00:03:50.680 of money in their late 20s early 30s they have college debt in the u.s then they marry a guy to
00:03:55.980 pay it off divorce him and then he pays for the rest of their life yeah a man never ever picked
00:04:00.500 his own kitchen right he never i don't know that term literally picked his own kitchen you said
00:04:07.700 women make most of those kind of consumable decisions um and that would be true and i guess
00:04:12.900 also across other areas of a relationship things like divorce which is another element that i know
00:04:18.840 you've talked about divorce should be divorce should be illegal did you really say oh yeah i
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00:07:55.320 the men um it's partially because they have higher testosterone or men have higher testosterone
00:08:00.220 so women crave sugar more right so they're the ones bringing the uber eats into the house so
00:08:04.740 they're bringing ones like women bake men don't really bake so it's uh it's a basic issue then
00:08:12.200 of so that's a physical visual thing right i mean that's a uh some would say a superficial issue if
00:08:20.460 a woman is it has put on weight uh but you still love her does it matter if she's a little bigger
00:08:26.540 than she was when you first met well it doesn't matter um to men men kind of get wife goggles to
00:08:32.100 be fair but women are the ones divorcing so it's not even a reason for divorce really what about
00:08:38.080 um the voting issue because i know you've talked about this before about women um having the women
00:08:44.500 never used to have the vote some men never used to have the vote either where do you still stand
00:08:48.440 on that paul um well i'm an egalitarian so i'm i say give women women have been complaining for
00:08:55.540 50 years for equality so give them the equality that they asked for um and that goes with voting
00:09:01.540 in the united states um men are fined 250 000 if they don't sign up for selective service
00:09:07.600 and women don't have to do that so unless the reason women didn't vote historically is because
00:09:15.060 men were expected to go to war and be drafted you're voting for your commander in chief
00:09:20.840 so if you're not 50 percent of the military and 50 percent of the front lines
00:09:24.640 you're not really equal are you what about the future then of all of this i mean you know do you
00:09:30.900 part of what you said at the beginning sounded like that you were resigned to the fact that
00:09:35.220 the battle that you believe needs to be fought has kind of been lost so yeah i mean conservatives
00:09:41.380 lost it's cooked we're done um i don't like to sell hope um i watched a lot of conservatives
00:09:47.480 do that the past decade and in my lifetime only fans has become normal like so you're obviously
00:09:54.100 not winning if i think it's like 10 of women between 18 to 25 are on only fans um if you
00:10:00.860 include women that do are on sugar baby websites if you include you know like straight prostitution
00:10:07.540 websites um i have people that have estimated it's like 25 of women under 25 wow i do find
00:10:15.400 how can i say how can i say we're winning well i was going to talk about social media but i do find
00:10:19.840 it interesting that we live in this kind of bizarre world of conflicting messages where
00:10:23.400 we're talking you know don't objectify women and we've never don't you know to to look at a woman
00:10:28.220 in a way that might be more than, you know,
00:10:30.340 you might be sizing a woman up and thinking,
00:10:32.420 do I quite fancy this woman?
00:10:35.120 All of that stuff is almost illegal.
00:10:37.400 It'll land you in jail, pretty much.
00:10:39.400 And yet we are simultaneously in a world
00:10:41.720 where we've never seen more people take their clothes off.
00:10:45.940 Yeah, for sure.
00:10:47.780 What you're going to see is women spend money
00:10:50.420 even when we don't have it.
00:10:52.240 So this allows everybody to raise the price of everything.
00:10:55.380 It's why college is so expensive in America
00:10:57.240 because even if it's six figures of college debt, women will still buy it.
00:11:03.640 So then what happens is the women, we rack up a bunch of debt,
00:11:10.580 and then how do we pay it?
00:11:12.720 It's either marriage or sex work.
00:11:14.240 And based on women's choices, women would rather be sex workers than wives.
00:11:18.740 Do you think social media, just to extend that,
00:11:21.040 I don't know whether we would call OnlyFans social media,
00:11:23.320 but it's a form of, I guess, under a similar umbrella,
00:11:26.380 how do you where do you place social media as a general thing in terms of how it's influenced
00:11:32.900 the society we currently live in yeah well it's a pipeline so the challenge is young women
00:11:39.720 now um you know sorry there's a ambulance going by um the the challenge you get is when women have
00:11:49.400 social media followings which is kind of it's pretty normal that's the new world um they have
00:11:55.540 the opportunity to start an only fans and make a bunch of money not all of them do um but it's
00:12:00.060 also a funnel into sugar babies um getting clone out and just like promiscuous activities um and
00:12:06.960 you see this a lot when women's social media careers are you know dwindling you see them
00:12:10.860 dropping only fans so um can society be saved then i mean are you still pearl the uh the flag
00:12:19.260 waiver for the change that you crave and are you someone who isn't all of the things that you
00:12:25.900 clearly detest well i can't change the way society is i don't have political power right i'm not a
00:12:33.520 politician i'm not in the government so um i don't i just don't predict it's going to get better i
00:12:40.600 don't see any indication that the trends are going to change but do you think as a woman
00:12:44.620 But I was going to say, do you think as a woman that you should be, you know, is your place in the home?
00:12:50.560 Is your place as a homemaker? Is your place to please your husband?
00:12:54.340 Is your place to be the person that spends but doesn't earn? Is that your disposition?
00:12:59.520 It doesn't matter what it is or isn't. Right. What my place is or is and there should be like should is just make a wish.
00:13:06.940 And we have the society that we have. But what is your wish?
00:13:10.420 um i i think that's a waste of time so i this is the way society's going so we've lost your
00:13:20.220 your battle is lost is that what you're saying yeah unfortunately you gotta you gotta think of
00:13:24.240 another job then i mean well you gotta oh no i'll be employed forever because i mean i'm gonna cover
00:13:29.440 this stuff yeah but just like you will but here's the the challenge women make 85 percent of consumer
00:13:36.800 buying decisions meaning all of the companies have to think do i want to make eight dollars
00:13:40.560 or do i want to just want to make two dollars everybody's going to pick eight nobody's going
00:13:45.840 to stop or they're going to say i want to make two dollars out of virtue no so that's going to
00:13:50.800 make everybody have to lie to women um in order because in order to like when you lie women buy
00:13:58.400 you know you'll be young forever here's botox right here's the here's the here's the clothes
00:14:04.000 here's i mean it's actually incredible um that we spend 85 like 85 percent of consumer buying
00:14:11.660 decisions are women even though we make less than men like think about think about that
00:14:17.740 do women make much less money do women make much less than men these days but we spend way more
00:14:25.460 that's the point it's very close but we spend way more and you can see it come on you know i don't
00:14:31.000 know if you're married but like every married guy knows his wife runs his credit card more than he
00:14:36.780 does well that's why i mentioned that's why i mentioned the kitchen point earlier that i don't
00:14:41.180 think you quite picked up on that you know when it comes to spending out money then yeah you will
00:14:46.140 normally find that that the woman of the house will select which kitchen you have in terms of
00:14:52.320 well i think that's that's arguably true well i'm trying to feed into what you're saying are
00:14:57.360 Are you saying that...
00:14:58.060 No, I'm saying I've interviewed 1,000 women...
00:14:59.240 So the map, so now you're contradicting yourself.
00:15:02.480 No, I've interviewed 1,000 women in London.
00:15:05.580 Women cannot across-the-board cook.
00:15:08.480 If anything, I see more men that can cook now than women.
00:15:11.380 No, I don't mean cook.
00:15:12.280 I mean select the kitchen that you want to buy for your house.
00:15:15.940 I'm struggling with the kitchen reference here.
00:15:18.900 Oh, sorry. I'm over my head.
00:15:21.440 Don't worry. It's called a kitchen.
00:15:23.320 It's got a cooker and a counter and stuff in it.
00:15:25.500 Those things, those things.
00:15:26.640 So in terms of where you go next, you continue this fight for a more conservative world or you just talk about how we never got there, despite all of the voices who are anchoring for it, the late Charlie Kirk, people such as that that have done the rounds, have huge media followings, who would agree with much of what you say.
00:15:52.200 The battle is lost and your job now is just to talk about how it's lost.
00:15:56.640 I mean, I can't in good faith sell that dream. And a lot of them are part of the problem in a way. I mean, a lot of a lot of them are platforming women that are not really like instead of platforming smart, intelligent men, like they've had porn stars on their platform.
00:16:16.640 uh nikki minaj i think is in the white house now what credibility does she have to be there but
00:16:23.200 they have to pander to women when you start to see like influencers enter a niche or space
00:16:28.800 it usually means they're pandering to women because men care about men that are competent
00:16:34.000 where women care about who's popular so they're they're part of it um and i'm i can't in good
00:16:40.680 faith sell that dream i can't no i hear you uh pearl listen uh great to have you on with us
00:16:45.660 We will speak again.
00:16:47.400 Enjoy your day, Pearl Davis, host of Just Pearly Things
00:16:50.840 on a whole range of issues there.
00:16:53.680 Couldn't quite explain the kitchen thing.