Finnish Nationalism _ Thoughts on American Alt-Right
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In this episode, The Swan of Twanella (Tina) talks about current affairs in Finland, how the media is Marxist, rape statistics after the influx of immigrants, and ridiculous hate speech laws aimed at silencing nationalists. In fact, her boyfriend is under investigation. Later, she shares her thoughts on the American alt-right, and I ask her about the relationship between Finns and Russians.
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Hello, I'm Lana. With me is the swan of Twanella, or in Finland she's known as Tina.
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You might have seen her YouTube channel where she comments on political and social issues
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impacting Finland. We'll talk about current year politics in Finland, how all the media
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is Marxist, rape statistics after the influx of invaders, and ridiculous hate speech laws
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aimed at silencing nationalists. In fact, her boyfriend is under investigation. Later on,
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she shares her thoughts on the American alt-right, and I ask her about the relationship between
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Finns and Russians. This was a filmed interview. If you'd like to watch, head over to the extra
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section if you're a member, our YouTube channel, or RedEyes.TV in the TV section.
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Swan of Twanella, welcome to the program. Thanks for being here.
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So where does the name, the Swan of Twanella, come from?
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Well, the Swan of Twanella, it's of course a mythical creature from the Finnish mythology
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of Kalevala. And it's the swan that swims in the river in the underworld, in the land
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of the dead. And I've just always been into this mythology. And the swan, it's just such
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a fascinating creature, because there's not much background information on the swan. Like,
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you don't know whether it's dead, whether it's immortal. It just is there. And why is there
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only one of these ones? Like, it raises a lot of questions, and it's still a very central
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character in there. So I just think it's a nice character. And there's some sort of a
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cool symbolism when it comes to this. Just quiet swan swimming in the river of the dead
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and seeing times pass by, seeing everything that happens in the world.
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Yeah, so there's actually a song based on the Kalevala epic of Finnish mythology. And I just
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learned about it yesterday when I was researching for the show. So it's new to me. So what can
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you tell us about Finnish mythology? I don't know anything about it.
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Well, the Finnish mythology is pretty different from most stories, because most stories include
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these heroes and gods. And they have a lot of supernatural and very grandiose elements. But
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in the Finnish mythology, it's not the swordsmen and or the gods who are the heroes. But it's
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like people like poets or blacksmiths, who end up doing the great deeds. So it's just less grandiose
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Yeah, it's more of a folk culture, not not as much about the gods, but maybe the folk ways
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Yes. And of course, it's pretty diverse, because it wasn't written by a single person, or it's
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not a single book, but a collection of poems from a certain area and certain time period.
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Now, do a lot of Finnish nationalists pay attention to mythology? I mean, they know about the Swan
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Yes, of course, it's everybody knows it instantly. And I see some symbolism from Finnish mythology
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and Finnish history used. But it's not that often referred to. Like, I don't know, maybe
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it just hasn't caught on or maybe people think it's somehow stereotypical to use this symbol
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because, I don't know, maybe they are afraid of it being connected to, or that people would
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connect it somehow to Nazis who use these mythical symbols from their own mythologies. And I don't
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Yeah, it's funny, because these things are so old. And then people think, oh, just the Nazis used to
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pay attention to this kind of stuff. It's just ridiculous. Well, thinking in terms of today, you
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know, I wanted to know, what is it? What was it like growing up in Finland politically? I mean,
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you're a nationalist today. But what was it like growing up for you?
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When I grew up, I really didn't think about politics. And I really didn't have to because
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I lived in the countryside. And there you don't really get to see these current phenomena.
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That it's all life is always very calm there. It stays pretty similar. And for example, immigration
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doesn't really touch the countryside. So you can stay politically very neutral there because these
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things, they don't affect your own life. And I was pretty left wing for most of my life.
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And only when this migrant crisis started, then I started to get into politics more. And I came
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to realize that we are completely being lied to about the nature of this migrant crisis that we are
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being promised Syrian children. And we are basically getting Iraqi grown men who have nothing to do
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with Syria. And I don't know, I just got angry about this. And then a year ago, I started my blog in
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Finnish. And that was then followed by the YouTube channel. And I don't know, I slowly became a part of
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the nationalist scene then over here. Now, what is the nationalist movement like in Finland? Is it
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pretty big? Well, there are lots of immigration critical people like the, according to Paul, something
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like three out of four Finns want less immigration, but it's not organized. And the problem is that there's
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too much division that there are these small groups that all compete with each other. And
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they just can't seem to cooperate. But there is the true Finns party, which has succeeded very well.
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Like it grew from a very small party to a government party in just a few years. So it was a big success.
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And there are a few organizations like Suomen Sisu, who are well organized and like, have a clearly
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nationalist agenda. But mostly the scene is just pretty divided. And that's something we really need
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to fix. And there's something we need to learn from the left that these leftists can pull these
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huge demonstrations, they can work together, even though they don't agree about everything. And that's
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something we need to learn that even though we don't agree about every small thing, we need to work
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together. I agree 100%. 100%. Now, does the left try and shame right wingers in Finland, too? I know
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they do that in Sweden, they try and go after them and shame them and ice them out of society and get
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them fired. Does that happen in Finland, too? Of course, all the time, like they try to pick dirt
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from people's past. And they even use this guilt by association, like there's this councilwoman,
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Terhi Kiemunki, who is now being shamed for being a member in a large Facebook group, in which some
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other people wrote nasty stuff, and racist stuff. And she didn't participate in it. She didn't write
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any of it. But she's now being blamed like she's guilty by association by just being member in this
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group, even though she didn't do anything. So they use everything, everything they can get against
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you, they will use against you. So what is the media like in Finland? Is it is it like Sweden,
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where it's pretty homogenous, as it's all very leftist in Sweden? Is it the same in Finland?
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It's completely like that, that there is no right wing media over here. There are no right wing
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newspapers. It's all the same. And they all publish the same stories, even with the same exact
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headlines all the time. So there's no difference between these mainstream media newspapers and
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TV news. They are all the same. And when there are these alternative media outlets, like online
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news, they are instantly smeared as fake news, even though there's no proof that they are fake news.
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So they have this very homogenous clique of mainstream media, and they attack all outsiders who
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aren't a part of that and who go against their agenda and who expose their lies.
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Yeah. And they go to great lengths to try and shut those people down. I know in Sweden,
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they'll actually show up at some of these people's doors that are have alternative media sites with
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cameras in their face, you know, publishing their address and trying to have people go there and
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Yes. And here they even use the public news network for that, that there is this one female
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reporter in the public news network called Johanna Behko, who calls herself a fact checker. And her job
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is basically to pick up all new alternative media outlets and smear them as fake news, even though she
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Well, we know they're actually fake news. And I wanted to play a clip that you told me about, about this fake
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Syrian family. So let's watch this and then you can tell us about it.
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So the public news network, they had a so-called Syrian family in a talk show. And they claimed
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that there was a mom, a dad and their daughter. But when the reporter was leading the daughter of
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the family out of the stage, she asked her, where is your mom? And she had her microphone
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still on. So you could hear it clearly that she asked, where is your mom? And so why does she ask
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that? Isn't the mom supposed to be the woman behind them? So clearly they weren't a real family
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and they made a major plan to leave the microphone on.
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And this isn't the first time that this has happened. They fake this all the time. These
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so-called Syrian families and these kids that are used for photo ops. And Trump actually made a comment
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about that the other day. He was talking about, we know there's a travel ban right now and lefties
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are trying to show these poor kids that can't get in. And he actually made a comment about these fake
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Syrian families and photo ops. I thought it was interesting. But yeah, this lady looks really
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old. I mean, that's supposed to be the mom of this girl right here. She looks like a grandma.
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Exactly. Like, this is completely unbelievable. And this is what they do all the time. And most of
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the time, it's not this obvious. Like they, most of the time, they just pick real Iraqi people or
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real Syrian people. But they twist their stories. Like they leave stuff out of there and they
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create these wonderful soap stories that are supposed to touch your heart and get you all
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Well, it doesn't work on me. And I know it doesn't work on you.
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Jeez. Well, speaking of immigration, another thing that's become a problem in Finland is
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rape. So tell us about the rape statistics in Finland. What's going on up there?
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Yeah. So rape, of course, it happens among native people. But these recent migrants, they
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have really caused the sexual offenses to basically explode. Of course, during 2015, we got these
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32,000 migrants, mostly Iraqi and Afghani, some Somali, some Syrian. And just during that year,
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the sexual harassment cases doubled. And then during the next year, rapes went up by 64% and
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the sexual harassment cases tripled again. So they grew sixfold in two years. And rapes by
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foreigners have over doubled in that time period. And there are now 400 more sexual assaults by
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foreigners aware this year than they were the year before. And this just keeps growing. And the
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newspapers are trying to make it seem as if it's not that bad. They create these stories that are
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supposed to create a false sense of security, like this police report about the street safety index.
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The police published a report in which they claim that the streets of Finland are now safer than they
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have been ever in 10 years. And the way they got to that reasoning was by leaving out sex offenses
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altogether. They only counted in assaults, robberies, and DIUs as street offenses. They left out sexual
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harassment and rape altogether. Because if they had counted those in, it would have been a completely
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I wonder who told them to do that. Because probably if you talk to your common police,
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they probably want to expose that. But someone above them is probably saying don't include that.
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I don't know. Is the police pretty left there? Do you know any police in Finland? What are they like?
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Well, the normal policemen, the patrol officers, they of course are like normal people. They have to deal
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with these issues. So of course, they don't want this to happen. Because they are the ones who have to
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go into the asylum seeker housing centers to sort out these fights. They have to put their own lives in
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danger with these people. But of course, the police is working under the Secretary of State.
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And they have very clear multiculturalist agenda. So they can affect the leadership in the police
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force like that. And that way, they can manufacture these reports and numbers they like.
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Now, how are women in Finland responding to rapes? I mean, do you have more traditional women like you
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that are being loud about it? Of course, we know that the feminists, they just don't say anything at all.
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Well, that's a problem on its own. Like there is no women's response. There are certain women like
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me who speak up about it. But there is no major outrage from women. And there should be, of course,
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demonstrations by women against this, because women are the ones who are affected by this.
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But I just don't see it happening. And I think it's in the Finnish nature, like Finnish people
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aren't the type to go out on the streets and demonstrate. They don't like to make fuss about
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themselves. They don't want to be a nuisance. So they just sit quietly. Of course, they see
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everything unfold. They realize that it's a problem. They may change their own habits so that
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they wouldn't be victimized. But they don't, they aren't loud about it. And that's a part of the
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Yeah, I wonder, what's it going to take for people to start getting loud? I know,
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you know, that's a thing in the Nordic countries. They're more reserved. It takes a lot for them to
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finally snap and be loud. But what's it going to take? You know, what's it going to take?
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I've been wondering the same thing. Like when you look at the situation in Sweden, which is so much
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worse than it's over here in Finland, you would think that at some point people would have stood up and
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resisted against it. But for some reason, it didn't happen. And now it's become the new normal
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for people. So people are in a way used to it. And there are even this new generation of people
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to whom this is all they know. They have never lived in a different Sweden. They don't remember
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the same Sweden they used to have. So people, this is being normalized and people grow numb to it.
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I noticed some of the groups that are loud, though, are groups that are, you know, LGBTQ.
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And there's one that you were telling me about in Finland called SETA. Tell us about this one.
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SETA. Look at that lovely picture here. Tell us about this organization.
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OK, so this is an organization for sexual equality. So they are for LGBT rights. And this is what you
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would call the gay agenda because they aren't just for making legal changes to get
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everyone to have the same basic rights. But they are out to brainwash people. And the way
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they do it is, of course, by influencing young people. And recently they have made this program
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in which they demand that in school curriculums LGBT positive information is included in all
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school subjects. That, for example, they can be a math task, which includes a gay couple mentioned.
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So they want to normalize homosexuality and transsexuality to children. And I think especially
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normalizing transsexuality is a very dangerous road to take.
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Oh, geez. Now, do they have problems saying girl and boy in class, too, like Sweden?
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Yes, that's another thing. And that doesn't even come from SETA. It comes from our own
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education ministry. They created these guidelines last autumn. And these guidelines said that
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teachers shouldn't unnecessarily call students girls or boys. But they should only use their names
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or some other group that isn't gender specific, but not girls or boys.
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I mean, this is ridiculous. I mean, are people really putting up with this? I mean,
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biological sex is it's a reality. You can look and you can see what you have, right? It's it exists
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in nature. It's natural. What is the problem? I mean, this is just a mental sickness to be even
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Yes, it's just crippling children's identity. They aren't supposed to have any sort of identity. And of
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course, the very core of every human's identity to which their entire life is built on are their
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biological traits like race or biological sex. And if you prevent people from developing their
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identity in those issues, how can they grow up into full human beings? Like how can they have
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full lives and normal personalities and normal lives if they don't have a core identity?
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Yeah, I think nowadays, too, they're really trying to push out. It's actually
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cool to be gay or transsexual or swinging in every way possible. You'll be more popular and liked and
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and and and that's what they want. They want more attention. A lot of these young kids. So they go for
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Yes. And that's what bothers me, especially about the trans agenda, that they lie to kids, that they
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make it out to seem as if living as a transsexual is the same thing as living as cissexual or
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accepting your biological sex. When they don't tell these children about the hormones, about the
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drastic surgical procedures and what they include, they don't tell about the nasty stuff. They just
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make it out to be, OK, it's a completely similar life choice as accepting your own gender.
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Yeah. And then, of course, nobody ever wants to talk about all the estrogen mimicking chemicals
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that are in all the products that a lot of these pregnant women are using. And it's affecting their
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chemistry while they're pregnant and actually feminizing children in the womb. I mean, this is
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a huge problem. Thankfully, more people are starting to talk about it, but very few, very few. Now,
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tell us about hate speech laws in Finland. What's going on there?
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Well, there are two laws that are basically called hate speech laws, and those are the law against
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agitation against the minority, which basically means that you say something that can be considered
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offensive or threatening against some minority, mostly Muslims, of course. And the second one is
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the breaching of religious peace, which basically is a blasphemy law, that if you
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insult or offend something that's holy to some religious minority, then you can be found guilty
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Well, speaking of minorities, just thinking of Nigeria, for instance. Nigeria has, what, 175 million
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people? Somali has millions of people, right? Finland has 5 million people. So who's the minority
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here? When I think of Finnish folklore and mythology, I mean, that's a minority religion that should be
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Of course. And like, as you said, we are a country of 5 million people. And yet we are often put on trial
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for somehow offending a minority of 1.6 billion people.
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I mean, all those African countries are huge populations. So don't even try and say they're
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minorities. That really ticks me off. So also, there was an example you had, I think it was a
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bisexual student and activist in the True Finns party. What happened with him?
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Yes, it was Sebastian Tynkkunen. And he's from the True Finns party, from the youth organization. And he was
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on trial for both of these offenses, for agitation against the minority and breaching of religious
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peace. And there were some pretty interesting details about his case, such as the charge about
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breaching of religious peace. It was completely based on one sentence in which he said that
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Muhammad is a pedophile prophet and that Allah is a monster.
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Yeah. So in Finland, you cannot say that a person who has sex with a nine-year-old is a pedophile.
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Oh, jeez. Brother. Yeah, well, we should be saying it. Should be saying it louder and more people should
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be saying it. Now, your boyfriend's also under police investigation, correct?
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Yes. And it's just unbelievable. These cases, they get more absurd all the time. Like, he's now under
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investigation for subtitling the wrong video. He subtitled this demonstration speech by a French
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guy called Michel Polat. And now he's under police investigation for agitation against the minority.
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So he didn't film this speech. He didn't make this speech. He just subtitled it and uploaded it to
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Facebook. And now he's under investigation. Well, of course, we have to play the video then.
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Especially to you, migrants and Muslims. I know you. I am not like most of the films.
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I lived in your country for 10 years. And I've seen how cruel, arrogant, and stupid you are.
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You have not created anything. You have not done anything. You have absolutely done nothing.
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You're just a saint, cruel. You don't respect your women. You force them to be your slaves.
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You don't respect other religion. You don't respect the Christianity. I've seen it disappear for 10 years.
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I've seen you murdering the Christians. And if you don't like that, that's the truth.
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You are supposed to be tolerant according to your imams. But you're not tolerant.
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Have you seen a church in Saudi Arabia? Have you seen a Christian in Saudi Arabia who can have his faith?
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You want us to celebrate your holidays. Do you celebrate Christmas? Do you celebrate Easter?
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Easter? You are absolutely out of this world. You should not even exist.
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And you should be born from any civilized society.
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But don't despair. One day we will kick you out. All of you, the young ones.
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You left your country. Collapse. You did not even fight. You have no guts.
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You did not set to fight for your country. For your people. For your families. For your children.
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But be sure. Be sure. One day, most of the Europe will rise against you.
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You tried before to conquer it with weapons by wars.
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But we will defeat you because you are not worth it.
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And he lives over here in Finland because he has a Finnish wife.
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And he used to work in the foreign ministry over here.
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And he has seen what kind of effect these people have on different countries.
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Yeah, and he's right to say, you know, they're going to lose.
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Because, well, for one reason, they're not wealthy.
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A lot of these people are parasites that actually need us to survive
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without us feeding them and clothing them and providing them shelter and heat.
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Yeah, like, who is going to take care of these people in Sweden
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It now even has to raise taxes on its own citizens.
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So what happens when all towns are like Malmö?
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And there were whites that were screaming against him in the crowd, too.
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Finnish people that are actually screaming against this guy.
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I mean, are there Finns actually defending Islam in Finland?
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And especially because this was shot in Helsinki.
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And the city areas in the south, they especially are very green-red.
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That most people over there support the Green Party or the left-wing parties.
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So the support for this multiculturalism is just huge over there.
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But if you go to the countryside or over here in the north, the mood just shifts.
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Like, people are much more conservative, much more right-wing over here.
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But it's really alarming that there are a lot of young people who are so brainwashed that they can at the same time call themselves feminists.
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And at the same time, promote multiculturalism and bringing in a medieval culture that is the number one oppressor of women worldwide.
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It's just how can they have that contradiction in their head?
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So do you think that we will get to a point, maybe not in our lifetime, but at some point, where we will kick all these people, invaders, out of Europe?
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And, of course, it needs some sort of a trigger.
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I don't think Finns or Swedes will just think it up to start resisting this and start fighting back.
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So some sort of a trigger is needed, and I don't know what can it be, maybe a terror attack, maybe a big riot or something.
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But if something like that happens, I think it's really possible that people can wake up.
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But they really need leadership and organization, and that's what people are lacking over here in the North,
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that there isn't a way to organize for these people who are against multiculturalism and mass immigration.
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Now, what do these same people think about their neighbors' Russia, people that are supporting multiculturalism?
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And our media is very russophobic, I could say, that they create all these scary images of Putin and Russia possibly invading
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when there really is little evidence that gives any reason to be afraid of them.
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And it almost seems, it's almost dangerous what they do, especially when the public news broadcasting with taxpayer money
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smears Russia, smears Putin, and they basically twist what's going on in Russia.
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And, of course, the problem they have with Russia is that Putin is a leader who actually does what his people want him to do.
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He doesn't let those people in who his people don't want in.
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And he creates projects his people want him to create.
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Putin is a leader who does what his people want him to do.
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Yeah, it's interesting because I know Russia, you know, Finland put up one hell of a fight with the Soviets
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that were trying to encroach and take over in Finland.
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I mean, it was pretty incredible what happened.
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It seems like some people still think they're Soviets.
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Think of what it would be like if, you know, a lot of European countries teamed up with Russia.
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It's a massive country, the biggest population, lots of resources.
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Like, I think European people should team up with Russia, especially in this fight against Islamization,
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because we are fighting a big enemy and we need big allies.
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And I think largely the negative perception on Russia comes from the media,
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especially with this Syria propaganda that's out to make Russians look like they are just bombing civilians out of fun.
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So many people aren't into politics, that they don't follow these things beyond the headlines.
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They see what the headlines say, but they don't really do research.
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But they don't read international news or something like that.
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So they get left with the perception the mainstream media over here gives them.
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Well, you guys got to start taking some trips over to Russia and connect with some of your fellow neighbors over there.
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You did a video on the alt-right or why you are not the alt-right.
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Tell us about your view of the American alt-right, maybe some pros and cons, things you like.
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So in this video, I explained that I don't like to categorize myself politically because I find ideologies pretty dangerous.
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That when people adhere to ideologies, they can easily become morally or intellectually blinded by that ideology.
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So that they start defending the ideology even when it's wrong.
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And they start thinking the ideology is the solution for every situation, that there are no faults in it.
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And the American alt-right, of course, it's really diverse.
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So it's hard to create a single definite opinion on it because there are so many different personalities.
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But I think there's a lot of, lots of potential over there, especially in those people who aren't in either of the extremes.
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When the other extreme are the national socialists and the other extreme, these ultra-modern right-wingers like Milo Yiannopoulos.
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I don't think either of those ends is going to save the Western civilization.
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But those people in between, like people like basically your show, like Jared Taylor, like Richard Spencer, those are the possible future leaders.
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And the threat to my eye seems to be that the support might shift to the one extreme or the other.
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Because media tends to tilt attention towards the extremes, towards the Milo Yiannopoulos types or towards the Nazis because they are the easily categorized ones.
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So they are easily chewed and media can make easy headlines about them.
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But I think it's the people on the center, on the alt-right, who are the possible future leaders.
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Yeah, and I think it's important to remember that we don't want to just preach to the choir.
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And when you become very extreme, that's all you end up doing.
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You kind of stay out in the fringe as opposed to casting a wider net and trying to bring in more people.
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In some ways, you have to tailor your message and think about it in a different way to be able to reach more people.
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But we've seen in the last year, even through because of Milo, believe it or not, people, they've looked into some of these things deeper.
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So we've actually seen the last year, you know, a flood of people coming over from there and saying, oh, I thought Milo was kind of it, what he talked about.
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And then, you know, fighting for Western civilization.
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And then I learned, no, we have to fight for white people because white people are Western civilization, right?
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Listen, nobody usually becomes alt-right or far-right at once.
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Most people start from the center or from the left and they glide towards the right.
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They become more and more right-wing, the more information they can find.
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So first they start thinking mass immigration is bad.
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Then they start realizing that, okay, we also have a demographic issue.
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And then they start realizing that, okay, it's the whites only who create Western civilization.
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So we need to keep these countries white to sustain this Western civilization.
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And I think we need to give people some time for that process.
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And that's why I am strongly against attacking those who are less right-wing than you are and calling them cucks and things like that.
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They are just people who aren't as far in the process as you are.
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We weren't all born right-wingers right when we were born that second.
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Everyone has a journey they've been on and a path and they wake up in different times and in different ways.
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We have to be patient and we have to be gentle with some of those people.
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But we have to remember there's new people coming on all the time.
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That's why it's important, I think, too, to also maybe keep some things really simple.
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And then as they start wanting more, then they'll find some more of the extreme stuff as well.
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And if I start thinking about myself, I started from the left.
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And if at that point people from the nationalist scene had started attacking me and smearing me and calling me names,
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I mostly, most likely wouldn't have wanted to join this scene.
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But because they were nice and welcoming, it felt more natural to move towards that nationalist scene.
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So it's important to stay open for those people who aren't yet at the point we are in.
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Now, what do you think about the term white nationalist?
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I mean, you don't use that in Europe because in Europe you're just a nationalist, right?
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You're a Finnish nationalist, a Swedish nationalist, although that's probably changing now.
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Because now if you're a nationalist in Europe, are they also calling you a white nationalist?
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No, that's actually a word they don't use that much.
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If the left-wingers use it as a smear, they use much more the word Nazi.
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White nationalist is pretty rarely heard over here.
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Because if you are in USA, there are loads of different white people.
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So you have to call them by that pretty broad definition, white.
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But if you are over here in Finland, 97% of us are people of Finnish descent.
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So there's no need to call us white because we are Finns.
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So if you're a nationalist over here, you are a nationalist.
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You don't have to specify white because that's what we are.
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But in America, it's just kind of become a generic white because people have been here now for a while and kind of blended out.
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Very few people have basically retained their ethnic makeup.
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And over here, it's so much easier to justify ethno-nationalism.
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Because if you are in USA, all these left-wingers, they start asking questions like, well, do white people have a shared culture?
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Like, are these all white people part of the same group?
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But if you are in Finland, these people, they are all the same race.
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So it's easily justified that they make up the social threat or the fabric of our society and that they share same genes.
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They share the same culture and values because they are a very homogenous group.
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And I feel like what's happening with the European Union is they kind of want to make it like in America, right?
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Where there's no borders there, where everyone just kind of commingles and mix it up.
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And then it would be a shame to lose what's Finnish and what's Swedish and what's Russian, right?
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We don't want it to be a generic white in Europe.
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Like, what we have now is a real multicultural society.
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But if the EU leaders and the EU elite, they get their way, we just become this homogenous mass with no borders and with no specific cultures.
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Well, that's why it's good that you're doing videos and speaking out about it.
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And I see that there's a lot more young women that are coming out and speaking about it, which is hopeful.
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They say that when a movement starts to get really serious, it attracts a lot of women.
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So how do you think we can attract more women to nationalism in Europe specifically?
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Or not just leaders, but people who are visible in some way, like bloggers or bloggers, so that other women can see that women are active in this scene.
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It's not just old guys or angry young men, but it's not just old guys or angry young men, but it's women too.
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And when you are a woman talking to other women, it's much easier to explain these issues.
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And women have easier time connecting with other women.
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So when it's another young woman explaining these hazards of mass immigration to you or the importance of sustaining our own culture and demographics, they just are more accepting of the message.
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So what we need is females to speak up and then other women will follow.
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I keep saying this, but women attract other women.
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Now, tell us about your YouTube channel and your live streams and what you have going on.
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Yes, so I have two YouTube channels, one which is in English and one in Finnish.
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And on my English channel, I usually do some live streams, but not that often.
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And over there, I mostly make something like three to 10 minute videos about immigration, feminism and issues like that.
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And on my Finnish channel, I do more live streams and I visit events like feminism talk nights and Social Democrat Party events just to go see what's going on and ask questions.
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So we are the alternative media when it comes to that.
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We need to infiltrate more of these leftist gatherings and events and go undercover and kind of leak things out and troll them, if you will.
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And I want to thank you for being my guest today.
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I agree with Tina in that nationalist groups in every nation need to put aside petty differences and unite and fight together for the big picture.
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This is an existential threat that impacts the very survival of our nations, of your tribe.
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