Success And All That B.S., with Andy Frisella - MFCEO59
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Summary
In this episode of The MFCEO Project, Andy and Vaughn talk about what it takes to be a successful entrepreneur and why it s important to have the right mindset and drive to make it in this world. They also talk about the future of the project and what's to come.
Transcript
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What's up, guys? This is Vaughn Kohler. You're listening to the MFCEO Project.
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This is our first full-length podcast episode in a while, and I'm really not even going to try to explain this one.
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Just listen. We're going to have a real talk about success, motivation, and what's next for the MFCEO Project.
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What's up, guys? You're listening to the MFCEO Project. I'm Andy. I am the motherfucking CEO.
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Guys, it's been a little bit since we've been on. You know, I've been sick. Vaughn's been sick. Vaughn's got a new baby coming.
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Just got a lot of shit going on on our end, and I apologize for the delays, but we're back.
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You know, you asked me before, you know, I told Vaughn right before this, you know, that I'm getting a little bit tired of talking to people.
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And you've been following me lately. I've been less active on social media, especially Snapchat and Instagram and basically nonexistent on Periscope.
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And a lot of people have been asking me why that is. You know, I'm just going to be real, man.
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Like, I just feel like that if you need to be motivated on a daily basis, you don't have what it fucking takes anyway.
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Right. You know, and I've been questioning the reasons why I put so much effort into those types of messages because I don't have anybody pulling me.
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I don't have anybody pushing me. I don't have anybody fucking telling me to do shit.
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And I feel like if you're an entrepreneur and you are of, you know, the right mindset, you're not going to need that either.
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You know what I mean? So with that being said, who the fuck am I talking to? Right.
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You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. So I've been trying to like sort through that mentally because I'm I don't know.
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Like, I feel like, you know, we did the podcast on success zombies and we talked about how people consume info and consume motivation and this and that.
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And it's like they live for it like it's a fucking drug. You know, if you're if you're a person who's got what it takes to make it, you're going to have that shit on the inside of you regardless.
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And I want the conversation we had a minute ago was, you know, I told he asked me why I was turning down certain things.
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And I said, hey, I'm just fucking tired of talking to people. That's the truth. You know what I mean?
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Yeah. Like I'm tired of getting on stage and fucking yelling at people about what the fuck they should be doing on their own in the first place.
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You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. It's like there's like an emptiness to it. Yeah.
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You know, I feel like people like if you're listening right now and you don't wake up every day hungry as fuck to make something of yourself, you're not going to make it anyway.
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There's nothing I could say. It's going to fucking change that. And I feel like, you know, I feel like I'm going to change directions on some of the shit that I do.
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You know, instead of just doing, you know, instead of just doing the motivational shit, you know, break down some more technical shit.
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You know what I mean? Which is what we do on the podcast regardless. But I don't know.
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Like. Plus, dude, I feel like the whole motivation guru thing like that's it's like I've been doing this for seven years now.
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And I feel like now all of a sudden it's become like this thing where everybody's doing it, you know, and everybody's got some fucking message to say.
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And that's great. But. Ninety eight percent of those people never built anything.
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And I feel like, you know, that whole the whole space is just getting cluttered with nonsense.
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You know what I mean? Yes. Like I like I'm like looking at my fucking Instagram feed and looking at my Facebook feed.
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And it's it's message after message after message of positivity or motivation or whatever.
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And it's it's people who aren't doing anything, you know, and it's sort of starting to like disgust me.
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Does that make sense? Like I'm starting to get like disgusted by it. Yeah.
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Like. I don't know, like like almost bitter, like what the fuck?
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Yeah. You know, like and I feel like people are smart enough to like recognize.
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When people aren't qualified, you know what I'm saying, to like give information, but at the same time, you know, it's like, hey.
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You know, if everybody else is doing it, why the fuck do I need to do it?
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But you and I, I mean, since we started the podcast and you've said again and again, I mean, you make your own rules.
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And one of the things that is kind of irritating is is there's rules even for social media that people think that you can't break.
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I mean, we break you and I have broken the podcasting rule, which is supposedly you're supposed to have like, you know, three months in the hopper before you actually start a podcast just in case.
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Because if you miss a week or two, you know, your audience is just going to fall apart and rebel on you.
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No, because when you build loyal, when you build a loyal audience or just like loyal customers and business, they're going to fucking be there for you.
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And we're fortunate enough to have people who are listening right now who give a fuck about what we had to say.
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Well, on that note here about certain people, and I'm not going to name any names, contradicting themselves over and over and over again.
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And like, since we had that conversation, you remember when we talked about that?
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That since I had that conversation with you, I've really started to pay attention to that.
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And it's like, dude, I see people out there that I used to like really look up to and, and I watch what they say.
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And like, they'll say, they speak out of both sides of their fucking mouth and they say one thing one day.
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And then they say another thing three days later and people cheer at both of them.
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And it's just like, dude, you're leading a fucking army of fucking sheep.
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And it's like everything, anybody who's paying attention can see that you're saying one thing on Monday and another thing on Thursday.
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And they don't go together, you know, and like, I don't know, man, that's just not what I'm about.
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And, you know, like one of the messages that's been going around and gained some traction lately is, you know, if you're successful, you know, if you're, if you're pursuing success and you set your goals too big, then you're setting yourself up for depression and suicide.
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I'm just like, dude, are you, let's be real here, man.
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Dude, you're not, if you don't have what it fucking takes, you don't have what it takes.
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And maybe it isn't for you, but to tell people like, Hey, set your goals smaller so you don't become depressed.
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It's playing into the fucking bullshit millennial shit.
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Like, I'm just getting like, I'm just like looking at all this information and I'm not willing to sell myself out like that to fucking gain followers or gain fans.
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I'm not going to speak to one group and say, Hey, it's okay to do this and then tell everybody else, quit being a fucking bitch.
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And like, so I'm like really starting to question, you know, my direction of where I want to take this because I feel like it's just getting so cluttered and people are doing it for the wrong reasons.
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You know, I feel like people are doing it for, they say they're doing it for other people.
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But in reality, it's all about the fucking take.
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One of the things I noticed, uh, I don't know anybody else.
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I don't know one other fucking person does all this shit and doesn't charge one fucking thing for anything.
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I could make millions of fucking dollars off of what we're doing here and I don't because I don't fucking believe in that.
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This is, this is a message of fucking public service.
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And folks, I can guarantee you, I have, I have presented several, uh, revenue generating,
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schemes to Andy, uh, well schemes is probably not.
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No, they're, they're business, but they're business plans.
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And you have rejected all of them, but that's, that's fine.
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So, but I did, I don't want to let this go because I, I learned something about you very early in the last year.
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And that is that there are times where you will go off the grid, you know, you just, you just stop social media.
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And of course that flies in the face of all of the so-called gurus who say you have to constantly post, you have to constantly be there.
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You have to, and one of the things that I realized that you were doing, it's like, no, people are, how do you guys get such good content?
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Because if you're talking all the time after a while, you're going to, your content's going to suck.
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And what I really, you got to take time to absorb.
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Maybe it's just because I'm so plugged into it that I need to step back, but it's just, I'm just tired of it, man.
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Like, I don't like seeing people that I, that I think are good people at what they do sell themselves out to speak out both sides of their fucking mouth.
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Not only that, but I think when you give people a break, it allows them, you know, to take that overhead view and be like, oh man, like, fuck.
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They're listening to everything else that's out there when they're not hearing you.
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But yeah, dude, nobody, if you don't give people a chance to miss you, then they're going to love you.
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Well, that's the thing with the quote unquote gurus is that the reason they have to constantly put out that information is because if they don't, people forget about them because what they have to say is not that impactful to start with.
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And then they'll be saying, hey, where the fuck you been?
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I mean, look, I'm very, I'm very thankful and fortunate and appreciative of everybody who listens to this podcast, you know, but understand that, like, I'm never going to be this dude who fucking tells you the shit that's going to be popular just for this.
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Maybe I will say shit that is popular if I believe it.
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But I'm not going to get on the fucking internet every day and sell my fucking shit out and, and, and, and just talk out of both, both ends of my mouth.
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I've never been that way, you know, and I've, I've just learned a lot the last six months being, being more plugged into this whole fucking scene.
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I think that, I think that there's a lot of, I don't know.
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I think there's a lot of good that needs to be done.
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And I think people are telling people shit that isn't true for their own benefit.
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You know, like I'm going to tell somebody something that's going to be popular with a certain group so that I get some fucking likes and shares on my shit.
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Like, that ain't cool because you're, you're, you're also talking to those people that you told a week ago, you know, something different.
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And then they're confused and then they don't know what to fucking do.
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And when you look at somebody and look up to somebody as like a fucking hero figure or an idol or whatever, which you should never fucking do, but people do that, you know, or as a mentor or whatever.
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And, and this person is, you know, and it's not just one person.
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It's like, I will say whatever the fuck I need to say to get shares.
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I, I take a lot of pride in, in just saying what I think is true.
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And if people don't like it, I really don't give a fuck.
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But the thing is, is that I'm, I'm just getting burned out on, maybe I need to stop consuming other people's shit because I'm getting burned out on their, on, on that.
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And it's making me feel like I'm a part of that, even though I'm not.
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I mean, like, I don't want to get lumped in with that.
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Like I was talking to one of my good buddies and he's like, man, he's like, you're, you're flying all over doing all this shit.
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I'm like, dude, it's just not what it, what it, what it, what it, what it seems to be like.
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The, the nature and the, the soul and the purity of the message is manipulated for dollars.
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I think when you're coaching somebody, I think when you're, you're somebody who's, who's genuinely doing something for the right reasons, it's okay to charge for it.
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But I think it's, and I believe in that, you know, certain people don't think that it's okay to fucking sell info products.
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No, if you sell info products, you're qualified to sell them, fucking sell them good for you.
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When you have people giving out information and they're giving out contradictory shit and you have these younger kids, you know, 16 years old to 25 years old, you know, looking at these people.
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And they're saying one thing, then another thing, then another thing, another thing, another thing, and all these things mixed together.
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It's hard enough without having people, you know, tell you a bunch of bullshit.
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It's actually ironic that you brought that up because while I was sitting here, I was going through Instagram and there was that page, the millionaire mentor page was really popular on Instagram.
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I lost guidance from this person, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And I just looked at it and it was very momentary in my mind, but I'm just grinning, I'm like, this is what's unfortunate about it is because you need viewer discretion.
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And if you, if you, the viewer, are not questioning the person that you're looking up to, be it a mentor or not, you're screwing yourself over because even the best of mentors do not know everything.
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And the best ones will admit that they have a lot more to learn.
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And if they're not questioning themselves and then the viewer is not questioning that person, like you're going to screw yourself over because you have to think for yourself and not let them tell you whatever.
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But, but the, and the whole problem with what we're talking about is that it's so easy to, to portray credibility now.
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Like Gary says this shit and he's right about it.
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You know, it's easy to go fucking get somebody's Ferrari or, you know, and stand in front of it and take some fucking pictures and then talk about, you know, success.
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And, and you, and you're going to, these little 14, 15, 17 year old kids are going to hear that shit and be like, Oh dude.
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And, and dude, I'm just not down with praying on people's, you know, in like, I don't know, you know, I like cars and I've got cars and I post pictures of cars.
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And then, you know, I feel like, fuck, maybe I shouldn't do that because now I'm, now I'm giving the impression that, you know, that I don't know, maybe I'm giving the wrong impression that this is easy shit.
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And that's why I always try to tell the story of like what it took because.
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No, you're being too self-critical because that never comes through.
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It's become an industry to prey on people's, on people's impatience.
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And it's become, it's become a business to take somebody's impatience and hope and fucking sell them something to fill that void, which will never fill it.
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Because, dude, the satisfied, even if you, even if you bought a program that made you $10 million, you would never be satisfied because the satisfied, the satisfying part doesn't come from the money.
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And, you know, you can't explain that to somebody who's fucking, you know, having trouble buying a bologna sandwich.
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So, so like, I'm trying to like, I feel like I'm fighting this fucking battle that can't be won.
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Like, I'm trying to like say, Hey, listen, you know, this is hard shit.
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It's going to take this much time, blah, blah, blah.
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And then people are like, well, I see this other guy over here.
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He said, I'll fucking be a millionaire in 12 months.
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And if you don't know any better, which one are you going to listen to?
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That guy is selling bullshit for a lot of money.
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But I mean, there's only one way to get there, man.
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You know, and it's not a, it's not a like, dude, everybody likes to point to these fucking
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stories like Uber and you know, these fucking glorified, crazy fucking stories, you know,
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But how many times them guys that started Uber fail or fucking try shit or, or go to school
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or have experience before they started fucking Uber?
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I would bet you it's 10, 15 years of fucking shit.
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I bet if we had them on the show, you know, it would be 10, 15 years of trying and failing,
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But all everybody talks about is fuck 2011, the Uber tweet, you know, here's the Uber tweet.
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Now they're billionaires and they tell this fucking bullshit story.
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You know, and like, I don't know, man, you know, I, so let's back up because this is
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So a year or two ago, when you and I first talk and you have this vision that this is
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You want to do, you, you want to be part of the success and motivation because you want
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to help people a year, year and a half later, there's some disillusionment.
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There's some, you're, you know, you're kind of sick of it.
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So what did you want to do back then that now you're running into something about the whole
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I mean, we've already talked about it, but I want you to sort of articulate it in a
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It's not, it's just another fucking, let me sell some shit to these people who don't
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You know, I feel good about what I do, but what I don't feel good about is getting mixed
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And I think the reality of life, and I just had this discussion with my own fucking people
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Dude, people, 99.99% of people grossly underestimate what it's truly going to take to succeed in
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life, totally underestimate, totally misjudge, and that's the reality.
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They think that doing something at 95% of your effort or skill level is going to get you where
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It's only going to, 100% is going to get you there.
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You know, when you fucking diet, if you diet and you do 90% of the work, you're not going
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And it's only whenever you turn up things to 100% that the magic shit starts happening.
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And, you know, people, I just feel like the message that is the truth isn't being told
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And I feel like now, you know, you've got people telling people, oh, it's okay to fucking
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be mediocre, and it's okay to, like, because you know what?
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And then the next week, it's, you know, entrepreneurship is fucking skill that you can cultivate, and
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I just feel like it's full of fucking bullshit, you know?
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And I'm not saying, oh, like, I'm the best one, and this and that, but, you know, I just
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don't see anybody else out there telling people the reality of what it takes.
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So, I mean, we had this discussion a long time ago.
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So, dude, like, you asked me, like, why do I not want to go talk?
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I'm either talking to, A, people who are going to fucking make it anyway, because they have
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Or, B, I'm talking to people that will never fucking make it, because they don't have it
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And why do I care, and why do I have to pull and push and tug people to convince themselves
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that it's a good idea to fucking be successful?
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Yeah, and I don't want to put words into your mouth, but what I hear you saying is that
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the vast majority of the people in the success motivation space, they know exactly what you
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know, but they're like, well, I'm getting paid anyway.
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And you're saying you don't want to be lumped in with that.
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I don't like, I mean, do you get what I'm saying?
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People either have it on the inside, or they fucking don't.
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And like, do I get excited when I hear like E.T., the hip-hop preacher, fucking talk?
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Dude, the guy's just got that fire, and it's fun to listen to, right?
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Man, he's not making me, and no offense to him, but I'm not working any harder because
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I got that shit on the inside of my heart anyway.
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I mean, are you, is it a good idea to use you as a yardstick, though?
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Like, I don't get, I don't get why people have to be tugged, or pushed, or pulled, or
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And so like, because I don't get it, now I'm wondering, why the fuck do I waste all this
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Dude, even my own guys that work for me, I've got to fucking constantly be motivating
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them, and kicking them in the ass, and this and that, and saying, hey, come on, let's
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Dude, should you not walk home, and look at your fucking shitty apartment, and look at
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your fucking, you know, your newborn kid, and say, man, I probably should fucking be
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So I can take care of this fucking kid, and I can get a better apartment, and live the
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So why the fuck is that so hard for people to connect those dots?
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Right, but I will tell you this, and Kelsey's going to agree with me, too, because most
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of you guys know, Andy gets literally thousands of emails, so we help at least address them
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and respond to them, and dude, I do think you're selling, to some extent, you're not,
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you're, I guess, attempt to be objective and humble.
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The reality is, Kelsey was just telling me this today.
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She's like, it's kind of crazy, some of these emails we get, like, you really do impact
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people's lives, and I'm going to, to answer your question, you know what?
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There's a lot of, you're right, there's a lot of fakery, and there's a lot of BS in
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the success space, but people are hungry for real, and they are hungry for people who really
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care about them, and the emails that we get are over the top.
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I mean, you, we've gotten one about a guy who, this podcast helped him endure the death
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Yeah, I mean, you know, I think this is always, this is something I've struggled with my whole
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life, is like, I don't understand why other people aren't like me.
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Like, I look at other people, and I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
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And then, whenever they are all, there's seven of them, and there's one of me, then
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what ends up going home is I end up looking at myself in the mirror and be like, what
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Well, I think there's a difference between the people that look at your lifestyle and
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say, that would be nice to have, or that would be nice to work towards, and people who,
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you know, there's like, oh, yeah, that'd be nice, but I'm comfortable where I'm at.
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And they would like to say that they want to be where you're at, but they don't.
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For me, like, I've never, I've never, ever questioned, it's not about the lifestyle
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You know, I grew up watching P. Diddy and fucking Mace and Biggie, and I want to be
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That's like me, actually, what it is, it's like me getting back, being a kid, because
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I never really got to be a kid, because I was fucking working.
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And that's what it is, but it doesn't define anything about me.
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I'm not fucking, you know, I don't care about that shit in all honesty.
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No, dude, the best thing, the coolest thing that I've done in the last fucking year was
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Well, I might not be thinking of what, you posted something about this, I think, on your
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So, I mean, the coolest thing I've seen in the last year was, Tyler, you were there, when
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we went to Fit City and spoke to those inner-city weightlifter kids from, what's the name of
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They asked me to speak, and I said no, because we had Big Ty Russ, we had Real World Tactical
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Juan, and then we had Juan, who's a DEA agent here in St. Louis.
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They all talk to these kids, and these kids are inner-city kids who are using lifting
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And to hear those dudes talk to those kids and coach them, that was pure, dude.
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And Sal asked me, because he's like, you want to talk?
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I'm like, no, I don't have to, because these guys just said everything that need to be said.
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But that's, I don't know, I'm starting to think that's where I want to go with this.
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You know, maybe even younger kids, high school and younger, because it was just pure, dude.
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And then, you know, we had a kid come by headquarters.
00:27:30.760
I think one of the reasons why that's such a satisfying experience is that those kids have
00:27:43.360
But it just forges them, and it makes them hungry, and you can sense that.
00:27:49.240
And again, I'm not ripping on the average person that's just, you know, has grown up
00:27:54.920
But unless you've experienced that, you just don't have that hunger.
00:27:58.640
You don't have that drive to make yourself better.
00:28:01.740
I think what you're saying, like, dude, I want to be surrounded by...
00:28:04.180
I want to work with and be surrounded by people who are truly hungry.
00:28:10.780
Not the people that you just said that they, like, think would be nice.
00:28:16.640
I'm talking about people that would rather fucking die than not succeed.
00:28:23.960
Like, being where we are is, in all honesty, extremely disappointing.
00:28:29.100
Because I feel like I should be a lot further than where I am.
00:28:32.540
And if you ask anybody that comes into our building on a daily basis, dude, I'm intense.
00:28:40.400
And, like, I don't connect with any other attitude.
00:28:46.580
And this attitude that you just described about it would be nice seems...
00:28:56.420
A lot of my friends have that mentality, which I'm cool with.
00:29:10.680
The problem is, is when you're trying, when you say that you won't like this, and then
00:29:15.800
all your actions dictate and indicate otherwise.
00:29:19.620
And if you don't know if you're that kind of person, I can guarantee that if someone tells
00:29:23.520
you that you're that kind of person, if it doesn't make you angry or doesn't give you
00:29:27.500
a lot of anxiety thinking about just being an average person on an average day, you're
00:29:33.240
Dude, it's something that, you know, you just have or you don't.
00:29:49.620
So you and I have talked a lot about the way you were growing up, you know, the way you
00:29:57.580
Somebody recently said, I read this somewhere that said that one of the number one issues
00:30:01.680
with America as a culture is we're just out of touch with reality.
00:30:05.580
And I feel like that's one of the things that I feel like has come through again and again
00:30:12.860
Like you have not been shielded from reality, like the way things are, the harshness of life,
00:30:30.880
But whether it's the way you were raised or some of the things that went on in your life
00:30:34.480
when you were young, you're just, you want something real because that's what you've
00:30:39.020
And you're completely against fakeness and whatever.
00:30:42.680
And I think when you talk to people like these kids that you talk to, that's the way their
00:30:50.240
And when your life is full of reality and full of, no matter how harsh it is, you just,
00:30:58.700
And maybe that's the problem is that most of the people that are in the success space
00:31:15.620
But I mean, this is kind of a weird analogy, but I mean, you guys know I used to be a pastor.
00:31:21.100
I used to get so irritated when people would talk about like in America, how Christians
00:31:25.580
are persecuted because you hear stuff like, you know...
00:31:38.980
Because someone fucking holds a sign up that says, fuck Jesus.
00:31:42.440
That doesn't mean you're getting fucking persecuted.
00:31:46.600
And yet, every time that I would interact with somebody from overseas, like literally
00:31:52.100
where they're in countries, where they're getting beheaded for reading the Bible, like
00:31:57.600
Dude, America's a bunch of spoiled little brats.
00:32:03.800
And the success and motivation space reflects that.
00:32:09.260
Well, we're privileged and people don't acknowledge that.
00:32:13.840
They're not grateful for how fucking awesome it is to be an American.
00:32:17.280
And people like to throw around the word oppression without actually knowing what oppression
00:32:28.080
I just had this conversation the other night about, no offense, but girls in America.
00:32:37.220
I won't even fuck with girls from America because they are just so entitled and like,
00:32:42.020
what they think they deserve in a relationship when they offer nothing in return.
00:32:51.080
You realize that when you say those kinds of things, I actually need to add a little
00:32:57.800
Now I have to add suggestive dialogue to the classification.
00:33:10.680
Look, and then the other thing is like, you know, like people don't know what it's like
00:33:20.920
Like all these motherfuckers on the internet talking about like, oh, dude, I fucking grind,
00:33:26.800
rise and grind, fucking the grind includes Friday.
00:33:31.120
Motherfucker, the grind includes Saturday and Sunday too.
00:33:34.680
And like, dude, they talk about all this work and all this time.
00:33:41.880
For two weeks, let's make you go work fucking foundation work or construction or flat work.
00:33:54.580
Dude, let's take them in the middle of summer and let's put them out in a fucking construction
00:33:59.280
site with their fucking boots on and make them carry concrete forms for fucking 10 hours
00:34:28.240
Hard is getting up at four o'clock in the morning because it's going to be 110 fucking
00:34:32.580
degrees outside and going out and carrying eight foot foundation forms for 10 fucking
00:34:44.880
And dude, all these motherfuckers on the internet, these pretty boy fucking success snake oil salesmen
00:34:53.580
or whatever the fuck you want to call them, they don't know a goddamn thing about working
00:34:59.280
You know, I come from a family of fucking blue collar.
00:35:05.840
You know, my dad was a business owner, but dude, he fucking worked.
00:35:12.740
Like, and like, I almost feel like it should be a requirement for like our youth and everybody
00:35:21.920
Like for two weeks a year, you've got to go work one of these 10 fucking hard ass jobs.
00:35:28.140
I've always told people that people should have to work construction, retail, and food
00:35:40.620
Like, like dude, you don't even know how fucking good you have it.
00:35:44.980
You, you, I got to tell you the other thing that I really like about the fact this comes
00:35:51.640
through in this podcast, not this particular one, but, but in the whole series of podcasts,
00:35:55.900
you often say to people, listen, there's always a context to what I'm talking about.
00:36:04.000
Well, I hate about the success and motivation industry.
00:36:07.620
Well, yes, but particularly, and I'm, I will tell you, I mean, I know I'm biased, but I
00:36:11.640
will tell you, I do not think you, well, I know you don't lump into this is that there
00:36:16.900
is such an emphasis on self-satisfaction in the success and motivation that true success
00:36:24.540
in life is you being happy with your life and you being personally satisfied.
00:36:29.400
And I think what's lost in that sometimes is, you know what?
00:36:32.500
Sometimes you have to sacrifice for the good of others.
00:36:35.940
Dude, you're making the point I'm talking about.
00:36:43.040
Oh, you know, it's, it's, it's important to be happy.
00:36:53.020
You got to put, dude, you don't get to be happy just cause you fucking decide to be,
00:37:00.540
You might tell your fucking friends that you might tell your family that you might post
00:37:04.740
But when you look in the fucking mirror, if you haven't earned that right to be happy
00:37:09.200
by doing the fucking work that it takes, that you can look back and say, Hey, I'm
00:37:24.820
And then there are those people who we get emails from saying, Oh, Andy,
00:37:28.980
So I realized that my wife and kids were a total drain on my happiness.
00:37:36.480
Okay, dude, you're not listening to what we, you have obligations.
00:37:40.340
Pursuit of happiness does not mean that you just drop your obligations.
00:37:43.500
Like I get, that's why I'm getting to the point where I, like, I almost want to talk
00:37:46.660
to people before they even, before life gets ahold of them.
00:37:53.960
Well, dude, because dude, if you could tell these kids like, Hey, you know what?
00:38:03.200
They're going to go to college because people tell them to go to college.
00:38:05.840
They're going to go fucking get married because they're supposed to get married.
00:38:10.140
And then they're going to turn around and look back and say, fuck, I should have thought
00:38:13.840
this through a little bit better because now I can't afford to do fucking anything.
00:38:18.060
And then they're going to want to, they're going to want their freedom back.
00:38:21.640
So they're going to get divorced and then their life is going to be hard.
00:38:26.840
And you know, nobody tells people that, you know, they teach you fucking calculus, but
00:38:34.180
You don't say, Hey, what sense does that fucking make?
00:38:37.140
You know, so like, why are we not teaching kids from the get go?
00:38:41.060
Like, Hey, look, you know, when you're 19, 20 years old, you need to be thinking about
00:38:44.920
what your life's going to be like when you're 40.
00:38:46.720
You need to be thinking about, you know, that you're working now for your future family.
00:38:54.820
I think you should, but you need to take that serious, that obligation now, as if you
00:39:01.080
And why aren't they teaching this shit in fucking high school?
00:39:04.220
I, although I would have to say that you didn't learn.
00:39:06.320
You weren't taught that you were taught that by your dad, dude, you know, I was parents.
00:39:19.080
And people talk about luck and do I believe in luck?
00:39:33.560
I think, I think, I think everything happens in business as a result of lessons you've learned
00:39:38.760
and being prepared for situations that come up and capitalizing on those situations.
00:39:42.960
I think it's an A plus B equals C deal and that quote unquote luck situations are going
00:39:51.720
You've just got to be prepared to fucking take advantage of them.
00:39:53.940
I think the language you used in a previous episode is good.
00:39:59.060
There are things that happen to people that are favorable.
00:40:03.960
So, but how many of those favorable things or quote unquote lucky things happen to people
00:40:07.760
that they don't move on because they're, they don't, they're not prepared or they haven't
00:40:11.160
done the work ahead of time to recognize the opportunity.
00:40:16.200
They just, not everybody fucking recognizes them.
00:40:22.260
No, I, and, and, and the reason I don't say luck all the time and don't like, do people
00:40:26.900
like, yo, Andy, you said there's no such thing as luck.
00:40:29.940
Well, what about fucking Derek Wida, your friend?
00:40:38.640
Depends on how you look at it because it doesn't suck for him at the time.
00:41:03.260
Like, dude, I can't, I can't, I mean, I was born with a fucking dad who, who his dad
00:41:08.920
taught him the right shit, so he taught me the right shit.
00:41:11.740
And somewhere along the line, somebody taught my grandpa the right shit.
00:41:24.860
Well, you know, that old cliche, it really is true.
00:41:27.700
The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.
00:41:29.620
And it's just the, the, the, the, the incredible value of the person who's raising you, you
00:41:34.840
know, and it's the person who is shaping you when you're a young person.
00:41:39.680
Like, that was the main thing of like, what I wanted to do with this project was to bring
00:41:43.780
those things that I've learned, that I've been taught, that I've experienced, and that
00:41:48.400
I've compounded upon and grown a, a, a, a nice business upon those principles to people
00:41:58.100
To people who, who didn't have somebody in their life that they could go to and say,
00:42:05.060
Or, Hey, you know, like, dude, my dad never sugarcoated anything.
00:42:09.200
Anybody who knows him will tell you that to the point where like, I've got to watch him
00:42:12.320
when I take him out because like, he will say shit that people will get super pissed
00:42:20.580
Like, like, I ran into him at the gym the other day.
00:42:23.080
He was talking about this to one of your employees.
00:42:25.260
He's like, I have to shut my mouth every time I go into this.
00:42:28.080
Dude, because they get their fucking feelings hurt.
00:42:32.740
Like, dude, you should spend a fucking day with my dad.
00:42:37.040
You know, he, he will, uh, you know, you'll go to a restaurant and there'll be like a fucking,
00:42:42.740
let's say something wrong with a silverware or something.
00:42:44.780
He'll pick the silverware up and look at the waitress and be like, Hey, you see this?
00:42:49.180
You know, this is why people don't come to your fucking restaurant.
00:42:55.260
And like, you know, it depends on how you look at it.
00:42:58.080
Like you can look at it one, like it's super offensive or two, that he's actually taking
00:43:01.840
the time to help you realize how big of an impact that is on you.
00:43:07.320
So, so my dad, uh, I wouldn't say he was as intense as, as your dad, but he said to me
00:43:11.840
one time, he said, you know, America would be a lot better off if instead of saying, does
00:43:22.700
You know, people are more, people are more concerned about if something is offensive rather
00:43:32.340
I mean, there's so many different ways we, directions we can go with this conversation.
00:43:36.240
You know what, people, people, people, now like being offended is almost like, it's
00:43:42.600
like become this thing where it's like you broke a fucking law.
00:43:47.240
Like you, like, like you touched a fucking kid or something.
00:43:54.940
I'd be curious to know how many people in America today think that the right not to
00:43:59.780
be offended is some, some sort of, you don't have a right not to be offended.
00:44:03.220
Well, if it wasn't true, they wouldn't be offended.
00:44:09.080
So, um, so we're just getting all over the place.
00:44:13.200
No, but I, I, I mean, let's, I mean, the bottom line is, is like, you know, you asked me
00:44:17.540
The answer to it is, is like, I just, you know, I need to figure out what direction I want to
00:44:22.420
take this and feel good about it because, you know, I, dude, I think I'm, I'm just
00:44:30.460
going to sound like I'm bragging and I guess I am, but fuck it.
00:44:33.340
I'm a better speaker than all these other motherfuckers out there and that's it.
00:44:36.860
And, uh, and I, I listened to what, what they say and I, a lot of them talk out of both sides
00:44:44.040
I like, like, I like guys like Eric Thomas, like ET, I respect that guy.
00:44:53.840
You know, he's a little more cleaned up than I am.
00:44:57.400
Cause I wish I could be sometimes, you know what I mean?
00:45:01.880
Um, and, and, and I, I like the purity of that.
00:45:07.400
Um, you know, when it becomes this, like, dude, I just want to help people, man.
00:45:18.260
And I want, I want people to, I want to know that, that, that it's helping people.
00:45:24.700
But then when I stop and I look myself in the eye and I think about when I think about it
00:45:29.140
and I break it down, like I, like I said, you know, people that have it are going to
00:45:40.940
So I, I like, uh, you know, I think I'm going to start trying to do a lot more with kids.
00:45:47.800
Um, and kind of maybe focus in on that because I feel like, you know, like Tyler said, you
00:45:53.220
know, when you're working with a blank slate, you're, you're kind of like solving a problem
00:45:59.020
As opposed to like trying to fix somebody who is already fucking so mentally gone, you
00:46:13.240
I feel like, I feel like college, I feel like college age, you know, I don't know.
00:46:22.700
Like I just, I feel like college age kids think they know fucking everything and I feel
00:46:28.940
like they, you know, they think they know what the fuck you're saying when they really
00:46:34.540
Like when I'm telling them what it's really going to fucking take for them to be successful,
00:46:37.760
they think that means like sacrificing one Saturday a fucking month and not drinking.
00:46:44.460
And you know, I, there's a cool, there's a, you know, there's, I saw this graphic out
00:46:52.380
It said he didn't take one day off in his twenties.
00:46:57.700
And, and to get people to get that, they, they hear that and they think it's like not
00:47:07.500
And then you got other people out there who are successful being like, Oh dude, you know,
00:47:10.920
I'll show you how to do it and, and not have to work hard.
00:47:14.820
And then, you know, like it's just all these conflicting messages that are not true.
00:47:22.920
I personally do not know one person that is successful that has done it in less than seven,
00:47:31.880
And I'm talking about when I say successful, you know, making at least a million bucks a
00:47:36.780
You know, I, I just, I don't know one, you know, and that's the other thing, you know,
00:47:42.420
like people saying like, uh, Gary has this thing that he says, you know, if you've, if
00:47:48.940
you're in the top, if you make 400 grand, you're in the top one, you're at the bottom
00:47:53.440
of the top 1% and you, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:47:56.040
But I'm going to tell you right now, dude, you know, 400 grand might sound like a fuck
00:48:00.080
load of money, but I'm going to tell you right now that shit goes fucking fast.
00:48:04.360
And when you have people that you have to take care of and things you have to do and
00:48:07.780
obligations, dude, that's not, you know, you need to be setting your goals higher than
00:48:14.940
And if you're setting your goal at 400 grand, you're probably never going to be 400 grand.
00:48:22.520
Like, I just, there's just things that, you know, I think, I think people are getting
00:48:32.900
so much information thrown at them that they don't know what to listen to or what to believe
00:48:41.520
And it's just like the diet and fitness industry.
00:48:44.060
You know, there's, there's all these diets and all these workouts and all these plans.
00:48:49.380
They do nothing because there's so much shit thrown at them that they don't know what
00:48:53.040
And I feel like it's the success thing because of like platforms like Instagram has become
00:48:59.720
so similar to that, that like, I don't want to be a part of it.
00:49:04.540
You know, I don't, or, or I've got to figure out a way to be a part of it.
00:49:11.400
Where I differentiated our companies away from the typical quote unquote supplement brand.
00:49:16.380
Like, Hey, here's a fucking professional bodybuilder who, you know, has been training
00:49:20.960
for 30 years, but he took my protein last week and he gained fucking 70 pounds.
00:49:26.180
So, so I'm trying to figure out, I guess what I'm trying to do, dude, is to figure out
00:49:36.780
So I don't know, you know, uh, and I know people are going to listen to this and be
00:49:44.340
like, Oh dude, you know, you should do this or you should do that.
00:49:50.560
I'm not going to listen to whatever the fuck you say.
00:49:55.240
That's why I don't fucking say, Hey, what are you, what should we talk about?
00:49:57.960
Cause I don't, I'm gonna fucking talk about what I want to talk about.
00:50:05.640
And like, I need to figure out how to like, yeah, I need to figure out how to like change
00:50:14.120
Cause dude, people are being fed this same thing over and over and over and over and over
00:50:18.280
and over and, and, and we're creating a generation of, of the success zombie thing.
00:50:26.040
Like dude, just cause you consume somebody's Facebook posts and videos and snaps and all this
00:50:32.400
That doesn't mean you're going to be any more successful.
00:50:38.780
Like I follow this person and this person, this person, I surround myself with all these
00:50:47.360
Well, I mean, it's like someone who gets a master's and doesn't do anything with it.
00:50:54.100
You got 200 grand in student loans, but it's the same thing.
00:50:57.120
It's like, you know, and I'm trying to figure out how to like get through and past speaking
00:51:06.260
to that group and speak to the people who are the people who, who really want to fucking
00:51:19.080
In ministry, we always said you, we want to look to work with the willing.
00:51:23.320
You know, that's how, that's how you, you, you want to work with people who, I don't
00:51:29.840
I've been dragging people my whole fucking life.
00:51:32.860
I want to work with people who are going to fucking do it regardless of me being there
00:51:42.680
And I don't want to fucking talk to all these other motherfuckers who ain't going to do
00:51:48.300
Like when I go talk to a group and people come up and they're like, Oh dude, that was so great.
00:52:04.100
You know, you're going to be the same person you were when you, when you walked in here.
00:52:08.200
So let's save me some time and you some time and you just go drink your beer and I'll
00:52:20.380
No, I mean, ladies and gentlemen, we didn't, we didn't plan this.
00:52:24.500
So we're probably gonna have to read, uh, redo the intro, but, uh, um, I'm, I'll figure it
00:52:32.560
It's not, you know, people probably listen to this being like, Oh, he's going to quit
00:52:36.640
It's not that it's just, I'm just going to adjust the way I do things to fit, um, people
00:52:43.560
who I think are deserving and willing and, and able to do what they want to do.
00:52:50.980
I've been in business for damn near 20 years and I'm tired of dragging people.
00:52:56.520
I'm tired of fucking, you know, like, dude, you, the fact that you don't have the shit
00:53:02.940
and live the kind of life that you want to live should be the motivation you need.
00:53:09.020
You shouldn't need somebody in your ear on a fucking daily basis saying, Hey man, let's
00:53:14.820
You know what the fuck, you know, get out there and fucking do something.
00:53:19.420
You know, the only thing, the only other thing that popped into my mind and I want to be
00:53:22.600
careful because I know that, you know, we've talked about how money's not a bad thing,
00:53:26.720
And, and it's, and money's a fucking great and it's a great thing.
00:53:29.220
And what you, what you do with it is really what makes it good or bad.
00:53:34.540
All these people in the success and motivation industry who are constantly talking about
00:53:39.260
how much it's their, it's, it's their heart passion to motivate people, to help them to
00:53:44.820
succeed, to, to, to achieve their goals in life.
00:53:47.660
Well, what if you suddenly said, okay, well, you're going to, you're going to do that, but
00:54:04.660
I'm going, and people are going to take this as bragging, but I'm going to fucking tell you
00:54:08.560
I'm going to my high school and they're dedicating the baseball field that I fucking built for
00:54:21.480
The year before that, we built them a fucking weight room.
00:54:42.000
And then there's fucking, there's fucking internet.
00:54:46.120
I'm trying to figure out a way to like separate myself from getting thrown in with all these fucking
00:55:24.440
Like, do you just work to reform the current success space or do you just say, no, because
00:55:28.760
like to do my own thing, to do, to do what I want to do.
00:55:32.040
It's like, I have to get on the internet and fucking call these motherfuckers out.
00:55:37.540
And I don't want to do that because it's not my style.
00:55:41.500
My style is to be like, do my own thing and let it work itself out.
00:55:46.320
So, you know, maybe, maybe, you know, well, what about like that St. Bart's thing?
00:55:52.100
Like, did that bring like the type of quality people that you were interested in?
00:55:56.160
You know, that's what I was, I was thinking about.
00:55:59.140
I was thinking about doing something like that.
00:56:00.800
Like I thought about doing like, uh, like a weekend or something or a workshop here, like,
00:56:06.660
like for like 10 people at a time or like, you know, a reasonable manageable group that
00:56:11.380
you can like spend time with and talk to and all that shit, you know, and make them pay
00:56:16.880
Like the group here that was after the Gary, the VIP group.
00:56:19.260
Yeah, like they could pay fucking five grand or something to come in.
00:56:22.040
Because like, dude, if you're paying five grand to come in, I know you're fucking serious.
00:56:26.420
And then maybe we'll donate the money to something.
00:56:28.460
You know, I don't, I don't, I mean, I just want it as like a fucking vetting process for
00:56:35.700
You also have to think that as you grow and your message grows, the people who are ready
00:56:40.280
to grow with you are also going to stick around and the people who are not at that
00:56:50.300
People are probably like, what the fuck right now?
00:56:52.440
I'm sorry for the long drawn out podcast today, guys.
00:56:56.360
Just working through some shit, just trying to keep it real.
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And, you know, I appreciate you guys sticking with us and sticking, sticking by us and being
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loyal and spreading the word, man, because if it wasn't for you guys, I sure as fuck wouldn't
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be doing this, I can tell you that right now, you know, and I'm just in a weird mood today,
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I had a big talk with our, with our company last night, like our sales guys and we're killing
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We fucking, we've already sold more this year, the first quarter of this year than we sold
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But the point is, is there's things that are being left on the table.
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There's opportunities that are being fall through the cracks.
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Like you're like, dude, when you're truly hungry, you don't fucking let opportunity slip
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And like, I'm, I'm just tired of having the conversation of like, Hey, we got to fucking
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And, you know, and like, dude, I got to post these motherfucking thing videos on the fucking
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And this long ass caption says basically, Hey, quit being a bitch.
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You know, how about I just fucking post every day?
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Anyway, we'll be back with normal broadcasting soon.