Rebel News Podcast - Canada's oil booms with Trump, goes bust under Trudeau

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00:01:33.900 please enjoy this free audio-only version of my show. Donald Trump is creating an Alberta boomtown,

00:01:54.020 and the media and the fancy conservatives seem to be the hardest hit. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed,

00:01:59.540 and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:02:03.900 Oyen, Alberta sits somewhere between Medicine Hat, Alberta, and the Saskatchewan border,

00:02:24.140 and it might be the only boomtown in the entire country right now. Oyen's population normally 0.99

00:02:32.080 hovers around 900 souls on a good day, but there are approximately 1,000 extra people in town

00:02:39.900 working on the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline, and we sent Kian Bexty there to check

00:02:46.300 it out. He found that folks are worried about what could happen to their charming little town

00:02:52.000 if anti-pipeline Democrat Joe Biden wins the presidency next month.

00:02:58.000 Then, on the other side of the country, the oil refinery in come-by-chance Newfoundland

00:03:03.840 is laying off 500 people and possibly closing for good. And in Fort McMurray, Suncor has announced

00:03:12.860 they're laying off 15% of its global staff. It's boom because of Trump and bust because of Trudeau,

00:03:20.140 all at the same time. Joining me tonight in an interview we recorded earlier in the week

00:03:25.960 to talk about these stories and so much more is my friend Robbie Picard from Oil Sands Strong.

00:03:33.920 Joining me now from, I guess, one of his marketing clients' locations from Fort McMurray is my friend

00:03:56.780 Robbie Picard from Oil Sands Strong. Hey Robbie, thanks for joining me. I wanted to have you on the show

00:04:02.460 because I wanted to talk to you about something that's truly phenomenal

00:04:06.140 happening in Oyen, Alberta. Oyen is experiencing, they call it a mini boom, but if you lived in

00:04:16.000 Oyen, it wouldn't seem so many. There are approximately a thousand extra jobs in that teeny tiny little town

00:04:23.320 all because of the Keystone XL expansion. And I wanted to talk to you about this because

00:04:29.960 for probably four years under Rachel Notley, this pipeline just languished. Notley refused to support

00:04:37.580 it. She said she was on the same side as Hillary Clinton on the pipeline, which truly meant that 0.71

00:04:45.200 she was against it because we know the Democrats are against it. What do you think about that?

00:04:50.960 Well, first of all, I'm super happy for the people that live in that small community. I mean,

00:04:55.000 the fact that they have a mini boom or any boom right now, that's very good for our province,

00:05:01.960 very good for them. And I think during this pandemic and how we realized everything that is

00:05:07.820 affected by different things going on, that any type of boom that helps people get money into their

00:05:13.260 bank account is amazing. And I also think that it goes to show you that this pie in the sky fantasy

00:05:18.460 about all this green energy, it's not happening. It's not actually getting cash into people's bank

00:05:24.140 accounts like they need. So it's good news. And I hope that it's a bit of a wake up call for people

00:05:29.180 from all political stripes to embrace the natural resources to the best of their abilities.

00:05:35.480 Now, I also wanted to talk to you a little bit about the American election and the impact that that is

00:05:43.240 going to have on us as Canadians, because Biden has said that he will cancel the Keystone XL pipeline.

00:05:52.600 It's already under construction. A lot of it is built already. But he said he will cancel it and that

00:05:59.020 the United States doesn't need any of our dirty tar sands oil.

00:06:04.980 What are your fears, if you have any, about the American election? Fears and predictions. Give me those.

00:06:13.060 If Biden wins, it's incredibly bad for Alberta in terms of getting our oil to market.

00:06:19.000 He will cancel Keystone XL. And I imagine that he'll take a really good look at the train that is going to go from

00:06:24.920 basically Fort McMurray to Alaska as another route. I also think that we really, really, really, really need to

00:06:33.000 build our own resources, make our own alliances with other countries so we're not as dependent.

00:06:38.140 And, you know, if the United States sneezes, we catch a cold. And we have very strong resources

00:06:45.020 between natural gas, uranium, potash, everything else, and oil and gas, of course, that in this

00:06:50.900 entire time, we've never really left. I mean, the United States is our biggest customer for

00:06:55.380 everything. And I really wish that our, you know, like, all you're going to hear about for the next

00:07:00.580 month is the U.S. election. Yeah. We are so dependent on America for everything that they do

00:07:06.780 that it's terrifying that at this stage in the game that if one pipeline can determine the future

00:07:12.040 of Albertans bank accounts. I mean, look at that tiny little town. That Keystone is changing the

00:07:16.860 lives. It's giving them Christmas and Thanksgiving. It's providing for their families.

00:07:21.320 Can you imagine if we took it more seriously how that could help the entire country? We don't take

00:07:26.580 our energy seriously. And I mean, we can't determine who the president is going to be.

00:07:35.040 But if you're just talking about money in my personal bank account, I mean, I think Trump is

00:07:39.940 better for Alberta. In fact, Trump, in a lot of ways, has been better for oil and gas than our

00:07:43.800 prime minister. Yeah. And, you know, it's interesting for you to say that because not only has he been

00:07:50.960 better for oil and gas in his own country, but also there are a lot of Canadians out of work

00:08:02.620 in the Canadian oil patch who are finding work in some of the boom towns in America, they're finding

00:08:10.580 work in North Dakota, Pennsylvania, West Texas. There's a lot of Canadians down there. And it's a

00:08:18.020 shame because that's a real drain on the experience that our oil patch will need to recover. But

00:08:27.260 they'll be where if we ever do recover. But those Canadians have found good employment 0.99

00:08:31.900 somewhere else and they take their experience and expertise with them.

00:08:35.840 So, you know, I always am a big believer in watch what people do, know what they say. So that oil

00:08:43.940 boom in the States actually was started under Obama. Under Obama, the United States became the biggest

00:08:50.260 producer of oil in the world and they even beat Saudi Arabia. My point with Trump actually is that

00:08:57.560 Trump has done more for Canadian oil and gas than our prime minister. That's what's scary. We need,

00:09:04.660 we have done, we're weird right now. You have this, I watched, I actually was on, I was on the CBC,

00:09:11.960 like just online watching and they, my reporter that I know from Fort McMurray, David Thornton was

00:09:17.400 interviewing all of the green candidates, right? And bluntly, they are clueless. I mean, it's not even

00:09:23.500 funny. Their reaction, they have, they keep saying this, making the statement that when it comes to the

00:09:30.160 oil and gas, that, that there's going to be this like green transition and there's going to be all

00:09:36.460 these green jobs, they're going to have this new economy and all the oil workers that are put, 0.86

00:09:40.560 they're going to be put out of work in Fort McMurray or wherever are going to have all these

00:09:44.200 magical jobs. And no point do they understand that it's far more complex than that. The fact that the

00:09:48.660 First Nations have, you know, $250 million invested in two different Suncor tank farms. The fact that

00:09:54.360 there's all contractors and all of these things going from different, everything, they're all

00:09:58.740 interconnected. It's not just the workers that they need, it's businesses, it's systems, it's all of

00:10:03.960 that. And my point going back to the Green Party, I know that they don't really have any seats,

00:10:08.360 but that is our country's bizarre distraction. And I mean, it's such an, I mean, even in the Biden

00:10:15.380 debate there, he, he actually quoted the Green New Deal as if it was his own policy. And then he retracted

00:10:20.560 and said, well, no, he didn't mean that, right? This, this illusion that there's some sort of

00:10:25.440 green energy savior has become a big distraction, which has prevented us from actually getting down

00:10:30.740 to the basics of getting people to work on things that actually make sense. And that is what's scaring

00:10:36.120 me right now. It's scary how we don't talk about how to get people to work. It's just this fantasy

00:10:41.940 that we're, it's going to be like universal income and all of this imaginary stuff. So I find that

00:10:47.540 at least the Americans are at least talking about things that kind of matter. We have this weird

00:10:53.120 fantasy. We don't know what's going on up here. We really don't. And I, so I'm very, I'm very worried

00:10:59.500 about our future because we're not, we're, we're not taking this seriously enough.

00:11:04.500 Now, I wanted to ask you about some bad news. Since you are in Fort McMurray, maybe you can

00:11:12.180 give us sort of a, a, an on the ground sense of what those Suncor layoffs mean. It was announced a

00:11:20.100 couple of days ago that Suncor is going to be laying off 15% of its staff during what they call

00:11:26.300 challenging, uh, conditions. What's the word on the street in Fort McMurray? How are people feeling

00:11:32.000 about this? So in Fort McMurray right now, we are in a very, very weird space. Um, um, there's not

00:11:41.720 an economy like Fort McMurray's. And I argue, I would argue that there's three economies. You have

00:11:46.240 your Suncor Syncru, which is your steady economy, which keeps everybody working. You have your boom

00:11:50.220 and bust, which is, um, expansions, shutdowns, and programs, which hasn't happened a long time.

00:11:55.140 Then you actually have this other economy of renters that people rent rooms off of. Right. Um, I'm,

00:12:02.000 um, when it comes to Suncor, um, and, and CNRL, that's the basically the two big players. Suncor

00:12:10.640 essentially, you know, Syncru and CNRL bought Jack Pine and MRM, and that's the formerly Shell. Um,

00:12:17.320 I, I don't think it's going to be instantaneously super devastating. I think they're going to retire a

00:12:22.800 lot of people, package a lot of people off. It works out to be roughly 2,000 jobs across the entire

00:12:27.300 country. Now, that being said, um, I think that we have taken big companies like Suncor and CNRL

00:12:38.980 for granted. And when it comes to Suncor and CNRL, that's it. They're the ones that are loyal to our

00:12:44.580 region. They're the Canadian companies. I know that there's, there's different shares or whatever,

00:12:48.060 but at the end of the day, those are the two that hold our community together. Um, and the fact that

00:12:52.740 some people are critical of Suncor, but what I would say is during, from the last five years,

00:12:59.300 they have held on and provided, you know, they, I believe they have 13,000 employees,

00:13:04.420 provided them job security and all that. And the, we need to really, really, the government needs to

00:13:10.900 really take Suncor seriously and work with them to ensure that they are continuing, continuously

00:13:17.220 successful. Um, it is sad news, but I also feel that if Suncor has not done any severe layoffs at

00:13:23.540 all during this time, and let's, let's go back, you know, when, when, like in, even when 2014,

00:13:30.260 when this drama kind of started. So, I mean, it is, it, it is sad news, but it also goes to show you,

00:13:36.940 we need to really take this seriously. So, but I, I think that Suncor and CNRL are amazing companies

00:13:43.700 and they hold our province together. And I don't believe they get enough respect for what they

00:13:48.620 actually give. Um, do I feel that although the, and the advocacy end, um, yeah, we all need to step

00:13:56.760 up, including them. And we, we really need to like, if this isn't the game anymore, it's real simple.

00:14:02.460 If you like the way your way of life and you want to support your families, you want to continue

00:14:06.220 to grow our resources, then you need to fight for it. You cannot act like tides, Greenpeace,

00:14:12.080 Sapporo, Berman. They're not an actual threat. They're a huge threat. They have, you know,

00:14:16.260 they, they, they have managed to, like, trust me, I know the more, I fought the good fight and,

00:14:22.900 but you get tired after a while. So my point is, is that when a company like Suncor is sending this

00:14:27.480 message, then Justin Trudeau needs to be on the phone with Mark Little the next day. What can we do?

00:14:33.640 If this was Bombardier making this announcement or SNC Lavalier or anything on the East coast,

00:14:39.380 the prime minister would be speaking about it.

00:14:42.080 Well, sorry, go ahead. Please go ahead. No, I was just going to say, well, not everything on the

00:14:49.360 East coast. And I'll tell you why, because we haven't heard much from Justin Trudeau after the

00:14:55.380 North Atlantic oil refinery and come by chance. It's closing permanently. They couldn't reach a deal

00:15:03.620 with Irving oil. They're laying off 500 people right before Thanksgiving. It's a devastation,

00:15:11.960 though. We'll knock about 5% off the province's economy out there. And we heard from Aaron O'Toole.

00:15:19.600 We haven't heard anything from Justin Trudeau. And again, you rightly point out if this were

00:15:26.300 Bombardier and this happened in Quebec, Justin Trudeau would care. But because this is

00:15:33.160 the oil industry, we have heard nothing from the liberals at all.

00:15:39.740 So I think what we need to realize is that if you live in Alberta and you live in Saskatchewan or you

00:15:48.020 live, I guess, in Newfoundland or any of the Maritimes provinces and you make your economy

00:15:53.740 a big chunk of this from oil and gas. When you have a political leader, even though she only has 0.96

00:15:59.260 two seats and she makes this bold statement, oil is dead. And then you have a prime minister

00:16:03.320 basically saying we need to phase out the oil sands. These have long, long effects.

00:16:10.200 And it's one of the things Trump gets criticized for when a president speaks. It can move these

00:16:14.840 types of things. The same thing applies in Canada. And for far too long, we've been too nice. And we

00:16:19.560 have some sort of bizarre Stockholm syndrome. And we've allowed Elizabeth May can say, Elizabeth May is

00:16:25.880 the biggest hypocrite in Canadian politics. I mean, I was told she was ran out of the room because 1.00

00:16:30.040 she didn't want the other Green Party guy winning. She's a control freak. And she makes a statement, 1.00

00:16:34.920 oil is dead. And then she's bragging about being on Andrew Scheer's private plane on a plane hoppy

00:16:42.520 because they needed to go to Ottawa. I've never seen that type of narcissism in my entire life.

00:16:48.120 But she gets a lot of play. And I would argue she's extreme and then Justin's here. We need a prime 0.97

00:16:54.200 minister that says, you know what? Hey, I'm really sorry about this news with Suncor. I'm going to have

00:16:57.740 an immediate phone call with Mark Little. And I'm going to see what we can do. No guarantees,

00:17:02.380 but we'll try. That to me is what you need. And we don't have that. He's willing to get rid of,

00:17:08.140 you know, one of his cabinet ministers over jobs from S&C Lavalier, but he's not willing to make,

00:17:15.580 it can't just be like, hey, we bought a pipeline or whatever. It needs to be,

00:17:18.780 yeah, guys, I'm going to support you. Our resort are his talking point. I mean,

00:17:23.660 when Rachel Notley was premier, at least she took our talking points. She made like, 1.00

00:17:27.180 she basically started repeating the positive stuff about oil and gas, saying like, you know,

00:17:31.100 it's the highest environmental standards, you know, or carbon emission, like she did.

00:17:35.260 Yeah. She didn't believe it, but she said it. Yeah. Right. He's never done that because,

00:17:39.740 and I think I've been really reflecting deeply about what needs, like, you have both sides squawking

00:17:48.220 all the time. You know, we're like, build that pipe, build that pipe there. You know, I mean,

00:17:53.100 it's, it's a mess, but I'm really trying to get at the heart of what happens in politics. One of the

00:17:57.100 things I've come to the conclusion is, is that at the end of the day, what this, what decisions

00:18:03.180 Dustin Tudor makes really don't matter to him. It doesn't change his personal bank. Every decision

00:18:08.300 I make for my business affects me one way or another, good or bad, or for my, or for my employees,

00:18:13.100 it doesn't affect him. And there's a lot of, you know, people in government that make a lot of

00:18:18.220 money and like, I mean, on all levels of government and they, but they don't, they never really held

00:18:22.540 accountable for their decisions. And I think that we, the public really need to say that we,

00:18:32.060 your decisions affect us. Like when, when, when a company like that makes that announcement,

00:18:37.180 there should be, I mean, Jason Kennedy made it immediately spoke about it. Why is our prime

00:18:42.780 minister so disconnected to Alberta? And I mean, he's been here a lot. I mean, you can make the

00:18:49.100 argument he's been to Fort McMurray more times than Harper. In fact, he has. But from those visits,

00:18:53.660 there's nothing ever been solidified that actually, like, I feel like they, they care. I'm sick of

00:19:00.540 virtue politics. I'm sick of it. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sick of this, this bizarre thing that's

00:19:06.460 happening, like virtue signaling. I mean, I just want to know what are you doing to make, you know,

00:19:11.500 better decisions so we have a better life. And, and we live in a society where we depend so much

00:19:15.980 on government to make decisions to determine our future that, um, the, I would rather him just be

00:19:23.260 honest and say like, look, I don't care about oil and gas at all. And then we know what we're

00:19:27.020 dealing with. Lisa Elizabeth May is that, I mean, you, you know, she's, I mean, she gets elected, 0.99

00:19:32.140 you're done. I mean, there's no, I mean, I'll give Elizabeth every green party member was the same

00:19:35.740 thing with what I find with the liberals right now. It's like, it's like there's, I've never seen more

00:19:42.220 distrust in my life than I had you in politics right now. And that needs to change. Now I wanted to

00:19:49.900 ask you about, uh, Saskatchewan because they're in election mode. You're originally from Saskatchewan.

00:19:56.860 Correct. Yes. And they have an NDP candidate. Um, her name is Mira Conway. She's the NDP candidate

00:20:06.380 for Regina Alphinstone center. And she said in a 2018 Facebook post, she called the oil sands,

00:20:15.980 which you and I both love an effing nightmare period. And she also supports the leap manifesto.

00:20:24.300 She said, they're an effing nightmare period. Any political agenda that takes climate change

00:20:29.260 seriously doesn't have space for the Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain expansion. And most regular people

00:20:35.260 understand this intuitively. How do you think that's going to go over in Saskatchewan?

00:20:40.460 Well, I mean, I have to unpack that a little bit. Here's what I will say. There's a lot of people

00:20:52.060 that, um, particularly like have these high, I suppose, I think that there's some sort of

00:20:57.260 environmentalist saviors that are simply clueless how life works. So I was simply challenged her.

00:21:01.740 I'd say, watch Michael Moore's documentary. And you can make the argument that it's a bit dated. Sure.

00:21:06.060 Because I mean, that's what they, that's the response when I asked about it. I said, you watch

00:21:09.180 Michael Moore's documentary and the, the one, the new green party leader, she made a statement

00:21:13.900 saying, well, no, I didn't watch it because you know, with, with green technology, you got to be

00:21:16.940 like every three months. No, I'm like, great. I'll, I'll accept your argument. Then I'll make

00:21:20.460 the same argument with oil sands technology. You realize that it's constantly evolving as well.

00:21:25.420 So I would simply say that she's clueless, um, and doesn't really have an idea about anything to 0.67

00:21:31.020 do with Fort McMurray or how oil and gas is produced or how she personally benefits from it.

00:21:35.660 And I guarantee you living in a cold city like Regina, which Regina is incredibly cold,

00:21:40.620 like Winnipeg, um, they are very flat. So they get a lot of wind, uh, especially in winter.

00:21:47.020 Um, I think that, um, she should really educate herself. And I think that's the biggest problem

00:21:53.740 I have when watching the green party leader debates, I was blown away. The only one that

00:21:58.060 I actually kind of liked was, uh, Winnipeg's former mayor. Um, he, um, I forgot his name.

00:22:03.820 When I was working at the gay bar in Saskatoon as a bartender, I used to serve him because he came 1.00

00:22:07.900 in all the time when he was in town and it was quite fun. So that was years ago and I quite like

00:22:13.340 him actually. Um, and he was one of the, he was one of the candidates running for the green party,

00:22:18.540 but at least he had a sense and he called Elizabeth May out and said like, you can't make those broad

00:22:22.460 statements. So I think even though I disagree with him, I think you could find some way to talk.

00:22:26.700 The vast majority of the green party candidates are clueless when it comes to oil and gas 1.00

00:22:31.020 and their response is idiotic. It's an idiotic response. It's simply, okay, well, you know, 1.00

00:22:35.900 we'll get all of these imaginary jobs. Like how about if you're going to try to rip apart.

00:22:40.060 So someone comes to Fort McMurray and they spent $600,000 on a house and then the market crashes.

00:22:45.100 So their house is only worth 400. So they're $200,000 in the hole in their house. And all they have

00:22:49.820 before they claim bankruptcy is their job, which now they don't get overtime for. And you somehow

00:22:54.700 that we're going to pension people off and blah, how about you just understand how basic economics

00:22:58.540 work first, before you make these statements, you cannot get rid of oil and gas. Let's just say

00:23:03.020 you're going to have universal income. Okay, great. How are you going to pay for that long-term

00:23:06.860 besides boring copious amounts of money? You can't unless you have an economy that somehow supports

00:23:11.900 it. So if they have this vast dream, the best way to get to, not that I can't believe I'm saying this,

00:23:17.740 but to get to the sort of guaranteed income is a strong energy sector. And they want to rip that

00:23:23.340 apart. And then they want to go into a ton of debt. So I would argue that they're, they're simply

00:23:27.500 clueless there. And, and for as many university degrees as they have, I don't think that they

00:23:32.060 possess that much intelligence. You know, it's funny. They, they always point, sorry to cut you

00:23:36.700 off, Robbie. They always point to Norway and say, see, see, socialism works, but they sort of leave out

00:23:41.500 the fact that Norway, uh, loves their oil and gas sector and is developing their oil and gas sector

00:23:47.420 and cherishes their oil and gas sector and recognizes their oil and gas sector pays for

00:23:52.060 all that socialism much. So, well, that's just it. And I always love the Norway argument because

00:23:58.460 if Alberta was, Alberta and Norway are very similar. And Norway, Alberta, I think Norway can fit in

00:24:04.780 Alberta a few times, but when it comes to population, so we're just shy of 5 million, like, you know,

00:24:10.700 we're four and a half, I think. So with that, um, that population similar, if we didn't have to send

00:24:17.180 money to Quebec and Ontario and the rest of the country, we would probably have as much money as

00:24:23.100 Norway in our trust fund. Yeah. If we were a country where you didn't have a bunch of people

00:24:28.780 that live here and send all of their money to Newfoundland and Halifax or wherever they're from,

00:24:33.740 or ultimately leave, we'd have that too. So you have a country, our country is what, 30, 34 million?

00:24:41.420 38. 38.

00:24:42.700 38 million. Thank you, Suri.

00:24:44.700 Yes, you're welcome.

00:24:45.180 So our country is 38 million. So my point is, is that why, um, why have we not taken our energy

00:24:55.820 so serious? We'd be in a far better position if the, if we didn't have the rest of the country.

00:25:00.620 So it's a very good argument, but they want to rip it apart, but they don't have a solution.

00:25:04.780 And, and the worst part I cannot stand about the green party is they don't even acknowledge their,

00:25:08.780 their flaws or mistakes. Like, I mean, we could, I could tell you about tailings funds. I can tell

00:25:12.700 you about the things we've done wrong. I can tell you how we constantly trying to improve. So why is it

00:25:17.420 that they can't look at themselves, watch Michael Moore's documentary? Maybe they don't agree with it,

00:25:22.780 but there's like, they, they, they, they don't take any shots at themselves because somehow they have

00:25:26.460 this false narrative that they have some sort of importance that is more, more than they have.

00:25:33.820 It's very close minded. And they'd be the first people advocating for Michael Moore's documentary

00:25:39.260 to be censored because it says something about their movement that they just don't, don't want to

00:25:44.700 hear. Um, I wanted to ask you, uh, because, um, in recent days, a new protest camp has popped up

00:25:54.540 against the trans mountain pipeline. It's not on, it's not camp cloud, um, that I visited that one

00:26:02.620 time. Ooh. Um, no, this one is in Kamloops and basically they say that they're going to be there to

00:26:08.620 stop the trans mountain pipeline expansion. Um, and they're not going anywhere. Do you think we're

00:26:14.940 going to see more of this as the pipeline construction works its way towards the lower

00:26:20.460 mainland? I think we're in for a, like a hell of a next two years dealing with these people.

00:26:27.740 Yes. And no. And I can't believe I'm about to say this, but when is Horgan's election right away?

00:26:34.380 Okay. So one thing that I don't agree with Horgan on multiple things, but one thing I do like about

00:26:39.980 Horgan is he, he, once he like played all his cards and he lost the ultimate fight, he backed down.

00:26:46.280 And I do believe that there is this big need, um, right now to just, to support law and order.

00:26:53.100 And I, I could, I could see, I could see even BC, a lot of residents are getting tired of these

00:26:58.360 protests, tired of these weird camps, tired of this nonsense. And that you might see a far stronger

00:27:04.220 like we need this pipeline. And I would even say, because the damage to the economy with anyone with

00:27:09.580 common sense understands that during this time right now, um, that we need to have, uh, money

00:27:16.380 and that's going to pay for this nonsense guaranteed income crap serve and everything else. And I think if,

00:27:22.700 you know, if it's articulated properly, I think you might see that there, that they will be, um,

00:27:29.100 um, far more, far more push to have this pipeline built than we had before. You're going to have

00:27:37.740 your typical Kiwanis manuals and all of those, you know, endless people. And I'm sure they'll

00:27:41.260 drag a few people up former camp cloud residents, uh, to come and be part of it. But at the end of

00:27:47.580 the day, I, and Kamloops, I don't know, that's a tough one. Cause Kamloops, people want pipelines.

00:27:51.660 Yeah. They're, they're like, this isn't Victoria or Vancouver. This is like where they, so, and BC,

00:27:58.140 like, I mean, I was recently there doing some natural gas stuff and, um, I'll admit like there's,

00:28:05.180 there's some fire. They want, they want this and the indigenous people there. Like I filmed the chief, 1.00

00:28:10.780 uh, Crystal Smith. And, um, one of the things I really liked, I loved it. It was my favorite

00:28:17.260 videos. And I'll tell you why, because it wasn't about millionaires and billionaires.

00:28:21.900 This guy was just super happy. He's like, yeah, man, you know, I'm in my fifties and I got a job.

00:28:26.140 Now I might be able to retire with a little bit of money, simple, clean. He just wanted a better

00:28:30.140 life for himself. And he, and that natural gas helped him with that. So, you know, Kiwanis manual

00:28:36.220 and those toxic people, um, I think like, you know, they're, they're nevermind the big companies,

00:28:42.300 nevermind the executives. These projects provide simple, tangible jobs that anybody

00:28:47.180 can get with their training and have a better life. I want to work hard, have a vision and

00:28:53.740 you can attain it. And they're trying to take that from them. And I think there's going to be

00:28:57.580 a zero tolerance for that. Gosh, gosh, I hope so. Yeah. It's going to be a tough play in Kamloops.

00:29:04.380 Um, given that, you know, you can drive past a tank farm in Kamloops whenever you want and

00:29:11.420 people seem pretty fine with it. Um, Robbie, I wanted to give you a chance to let people know,

00:29:18.300 uh, where they can find some of the advocacy work that you do, because most of the advocacy

00:29:22.060 work that you do on behalf of the oil and gas sector is completely out of pocket.

00:29:26.220 So if people want to support you and help you spread the message, how do they do that?

00:29:32.300 Okay. So you, you can go to oilsandstrong.com or you can check out my personal website,

00:29:37.260 which is RobbiePicard.com. And, uh, yeah. And, uh, and we got shirts again. Like I've,

00:29:42.700 I've struggled with our shirt business. I like that. We were all caught up on our orders now.

00:29:46.860 So if you want to order a shirt or, uh, we'll send you a sticker and, uh, we are launching a few

00:29:51.420 new video series in the next couple of months. So things are, uh, definitely we're going to be,

00:29:55.180 I'm going to be stepping up my game. I enjoyed a little bit of a summer. I got a ginormous

00:29:59.820 Turkish Kangol dog. So I've been a little bit preoccupied, but, um, I'm kind of getting back

00:30:05.180 into it now. Yeah. You seem a little fired up and renewed and reinvigorated. And, uh,

00:30:11.180 maybe the break was exactly what you needed. Robbie, thank you for taking time out of your

00:30:15.500 work day. Cause I know you're currently working in your day job doing marketing right now. And,

00:30:20.300 um, I want to thank you for that and I won't take up any more of your time. We'll have you back

00:30:24.380 on the show again, very, very soon. Awesome. Thank you so much for having me. Thanks.

00:30:29.820 You know, Robbie is right. Donald Trump has done more for the Canadian oil patch than Justin Trudeau

00:30:42.620 ever has. However, it would be nice for the fancy Canadian conservatives to set aside their tone

00:30:51.100 policing and personal feelings about the style of Donald Trump to admit that for once. Well,

00:30:58.060 everybody, that's the show for tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here

00:31:02.540 in the same time, in the same place next week. And remember, don't let the government tell you that

00:31:08.060 you've had too much to think.

Rebel News Podcast - October 08, 2020

Canada's oil booms with Trump, goes bust under Trudeau

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