Rebel News Podcast - DAVID MENZIES ｜ WestJet Goes Grinch; Legal Realities of Fighting Lockdowns

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00:01:14.420 Welcome to Rebel Roundup, ladies and gentlemen, and to the rest of you,

00:01:32.460 in which we look back at some of the very best commentaries from your favorite Rebels that are not me.

00:01:38.140 I'm your host, who is definitely, absolutely not David Menzies.

00:01:41.480 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and I'm filling in for my friend David as he takes a well-deserved break from the show this week.

00:01:48.220 Desperate times call for desperate measures, as they say,

00:01:50.560 but sometimes desperate measures can do you more harm than good.

00:01:54.840 Desperate people are turning to bad legal advice they find on the internet

00:01:59.280 to try to find a quick fix to the pandemic and the lockdown and their job losses.

00:02:04.360 But instead of a quick fix, sometimes these homemade solutions are just the opposite, a long catastrophe.

00:02:10.580 After seeing otherwise well-meaning people looking for a quick way out,

00:02:14.380 Tamara Ugolini sought some actual professional legal advice to get the hard truth instead of the feel-good pixie dust. 0.99

00:02:22.020 And she finds out that there's no easy way out of any of this.

00:02:25.820 And speaking of taking the easy way out, in other legal news,

00:02:30.440 Western-based airline WestJet has begun the process of effectively firing unvaccinated flight attendants and staff

00:02:37.440 after allowing them to work through the worst, most unknown parts of the pandemic.

00:02:42.660 Calgary-based reporter Adam Sos brings us the story of his gut-wrenching interviews

00:02:47.560 that he did with some of the now former WestJet employees.

00:02:51.240 And he brings us an update to the legal battle the Democracy Fund is taking up

00:02:55.660 on behalf of one of these flight attendants through your generous donations to fightvaccinepassports.com.

00:03:02.900 Don't worry, Art Poloski's incredible lawyer Sarah Miller's on that case,

00:03:05.900 so you know there's no homemade lawyering pixie dust happening there.

00:03:10.540 And letters, we get your letters, or at least David Menzies gets your letters every minute of every day.

00:03:16.060 And you had plenty to say about my story about Prime Minister Justin Trudeau having two movies on his flight

00:03:22.520 that were available to him but were deemed inappropriate for the delicate eyes of the former Governor-General Julie Payette.

00:03:30.060 Those are your Rebels. Let's round them up. 0.57

00:03:37.900 So let's, for example, refer back to the restaurant and they're being told they can't come in

00:03:42.160 because they're not vaccinated or they can't get into the store because they're not wearing a mask.

00:03:46.060 They, they're very quick to want to suddenly go after the individual, the waitress,

00:03:53.780 alleging that she has breached their charter rights.

00:03:57.020 She has not.

00:03:58.480 She's merely the enforcer, albeit inappropriately in my opinion, 0.87

00:04:02.400 but she's merely the enforcer of the law. 1.00

00:04:05.880 It's the law she's enforcing that is breaching your charter rights. 0.97

00:04:10.080 We're very heightened right now with emotions.

00:04:12.360 We're, we're angry, we're afraid, we're upset, you know, we're losing our jobs.

00:04:17.600 We can't access public places that we used to access.

00:04:21.340 And I totally understand that the level of emotions is very, very high,

00:04:25.280 probably higher than almost any other time in history, save World War II, perhaps.

00:04:29.020 And so, and people, they want remedy, they want it fixed now.

00:04:35.680 There's, there's very little room for patience anymore.

00:04:38.160 And unfortunately, if you go into the court of law, if you start proceedings based on your emotions,

00:04:44.640 you're not likely to be successful.

00:04:47.220 The court is not there to assess your emotions.

00:04:49.940 The court is there to assess fact.

00:04:51.880 If people wish to be successful, if they wish to have a strong case,

00:04:58.180 they need to make sure that the facts are gathered to support the allegations.

00:05:02.400 They need to make sure that they keep their emotions outside of the courtroom.

00:05:06.320 And they have to deal with it from a logical, reasonable perspective with facts to support the allegations.

00:05:14.520 Nothing seems to make sense anymore.

00:05:16.200 And it seems like politicians and health officials are acting outside of the law.

00:05:20.020 And it's making some well-meaning and otherwise completely intelligent people go looking for their own solutions.

00:05:26.200 Partly because they feel let down by the courts, but also because they feel let down by the police.

00:05:31.220 And also the people who make the laws, our elected legislators.

00:05:36.580 Now people are desperate and they're turning to homemade law and homemade legal gurus,

00:05:42.760 promising a way out of restrictions and job losses.

00:05:45.740 But will it work or are all these homemade lawyers and quick fixes as effective as masks and social distancing,

00:05:55.500 as in not effective at all?

00:05:58.100 Coburg rebel sensation Tamara Ugolini called in an expert to help her cut through the false hope 0.87

00:06:03.380 and get straight to the facts.

00:06:05.020 And she joins me now.

00:06:06.080 Hey, Tamara. 1.00

00:06:06.560 My first question to you is, and I think I know the answer, but I'm going to ask it anyway.

00:06:12.960 Why was it so important for you to do this particular video?

00:06:16.480 Because I think this is one of the most important videos of the year.

00:06:20.880 Well, I had been seeing a lot of things online and that includes my friends and my family with these notices of liability.

00:06:27.900 And I started to realize pretty quickly that they weren't getting them anywhere.

00:06:33.720 And I wondered how sound legally what they were trying to do was, especially as in real time,

00:06:41.760 I was seeing that nothing was coming of it.

00:06:45.380 So I started to talk to a few people who are more legally minded.

00:06:49.900 And then, of course, Suzanne Coles, coincidentally enough,

00:06:53.480 gave this presentation at one of the doctor events that I had attended on two separate occasions.

00:06:58.840 And the second time I thought, you know what?

00:07:00.640 I really need to get in with Suzanne Coles and get her on for an interview 0.99

00:07:04.540 because she just spoke so much common sense and really explained things in a way that were easy to understand

00:07:10.440 that made me realize, oh, wait, this isn't necessarily the fail safe that people have been led to believe that it is.

00:07:18.000 Yeah, that's the thing.

00:07:19.040 I think, you know, I don't...

00:07:23.480 I don't have any sort of bad feelings towards people who try to use these things.

00:07:28.820 Actually, I feel sad for them because I know how desperate they are that they are turning to these sort of quick fixes and snake oil.

00:07:36.820 It's legal snake oil is what it really is.

00:07:38.760 But people are desperate and they also can't believe that this is the world we live in.

00:07:46.660 You know, 21 months ago, there was a rule of law.

00:07:51.780 Politicians were required to respect the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but now we're locked in our homes.

00:07:57.420 Politicians are telling us how many people we can have over for Christmas dinner and we can't even travel domestically without getting a medical procedure.

00:08:06.580 So I understand how people end up in this particular mindset.

00:08:10.200 Well, that's just it, Sheila, is like, I think that we've coined this term before.

00:08:15.380 They're desperate for some hopium, something to cling to, to say, OK, this is your ticket to get out of this madness.

00:08:21.000 But the really unfortunate thing and the saddest part, at least in my realization, was that this actually just makes you look really silly because there's no grit and because there's no there's nothing to actually move forward to hold these people accountable with some paper.

00:08:37.940 Like Suzanne mentioned, you know, if someone was robbing you, taking your purse and you say, hey, wait, stop that.

00:08:44.440 I have this notice of liability. And if that was enough to make them stop stealing your money and taking your purse, well, then no one would ever engage in crime.

00:08:52.460 And so I think that the consensus seems to be that these notices of liability are maybe a good stepping stone.

00:09:00.080 So you kind of start there. It's more for the public record just to let someone know that you're not agreeing with what they're doing and that you're prepared then to litigate further.

00:09:09.440 But you have to be prepared to take those next steps.

00:09:11.740 And like Suzanne mentioned, you have to have a solid case that's not just rooted in emotion.

00:09:16.760 And I don't like this. There has to be some sort of damage or monetary value that's been been compromised or taken from you.

00:09:24.580 So especially with job loss. So I think what ends up happening is that people aren't necessarily prepared to take that next step and they don't realize that this notice of liability in and of itself isn't going to give them the end result that they're hoping for.

00:09:39.600 I mean, in some instances, I guess, very rare, you know, it's they push back.

00:09:44.880 It's like sending those demand letters or those threat letters that pushes back the deadline on some of these things.

00:09:51.460 But you do need to be prepared to go the next step.

00:09:55.120 And you should consult with an actual lawyer, because if this is just stamped as me, the person to marry you, Bellini, they're going to say, oh, good luck. 0.81

00:10:04.440 Throw it in the trash.

00:10:05.420 Yeah, I mean, and I don't want people to misunderstand.

00:10:10.340 I don't think lawyers are actually all that much smarter than the common person.

00:10:14.400 No offense to the lawyers we work with.

00:10:16.880 They're just experts in the field.

00:10:19.840 For me, also, I have a real problem with some of the the self-appointed gurus of the sort of homemade legal system framework.

00:10:32.380 My problem with them is that they are very low liability.

00:10:37.200 They can give desperate people really bad advice to take into a courtroom so that they lose a case, get an enormous fine and ruin their life potentially.

00:10:49.680 And the person who gave the bad advice just moves on to the next person.

00:10:56.420 And that's what really bothers me in all of this.

00:10:58.480 I call them low liability legal gurus because that's what it is.

00:11:03.380 They get the fame, the fortune and the admiration while somebody else deals with the consequences.

00:11:09.280 Well, that's just it.

00:11:11.620 And so that was another angle that Suzanne kind of pointed out to me off off the record.

00:11:17.280 There is one individual in particular, and I'm not going to dox them, but they're working for a group that essentially does this legal homemade lawyering and spreads a lot of this information, disseminates it out to the Canadian public.

00:11:28.160 And you can look, anyone can go and find this.

00:11:31.200 It's canlie, C-A-N-L-I-I dot org, I believe it is. 1.00

00:11:35.840 And so there's there's all of the case, previous case counts or case documents in that on that website.

00:11:43.480 And so if you go in and you search some of these names of the people that are giving you this advice, check their credibility for yourself, because you can see that certain individuals do not have a good track record with this, these cases, and they are potentially not in good standing with the law association.

00:12:02.520 So, I mean, that's a simple thing that people can just look for themselves and say, hey, let's check this person out.

00:12:08.600 And it's sad because I don't think people are doing their due diligence because they're so desperate for hope and something to rein this back in.

00:12:15.700 But the biggest takeaway for me from Suzanne's interview was the fact that she mentions that time is actually on our side.

00:12:23.420 So, yes, the wheels of justice are slow moving.

00:12:25.800 It takes a long time to get things heard and through the court.

00:12:28.560 However, six months ago, we didn't know that these injections were unsafe and we didn't have the data that showed all the adverse reactions.

00:12:37.440 We didn't have the data that showed that they don't prevent transmission or infection.

00:12:41.020 So as more credible science comes out, because that's science, it's always continually evolving, a lot of these legalities will actually work in your favor for a good case and setting good precedence.

00:12:55.700 You know, that's a really great point, too.

00:12:58.100 A good legal case sets precedent and a bad one also sets precedent for everybody else.

00:13:03.940 And one of the things I'm so proud of the work that we do in partnership with the Democracy Fund is when we are fighting these legal battles, we publish all of our legal documents so you can see the good, thorough work that our lawyers are doing because they do work really hard.

00:13:21.320 And as Ezra always says, you kind of get what you pay for when you're getting a lawyer.

00:13:26.400 Tamara, one last question.

00:13:32.480 What should desperate people do?

00:13:35.740 I mean, they're turning to these gurus who are giving them so oftentimes bad advice.

00:13:41.560 So what's the good advice for them?

00:13:44.400 Well, actually, that's funny that you mentioned it because I just spoke with Suzanne yesterday and I'm hoping to do an update video because a lot of people have reached out to me since that interview was aired.

00:13:53.220 And they're saying, well, we're left even more discouraged than we were before.

00:13:57.520 So what can we do?

00:13:59.080 And so I'm hoping to bring Suzanne back on and discuss some viable options for people moving forward.

00:14:05.360 And I think the biggest takeaway is, like I've already said, with the time being on our side, we just have to be patient.

00:14:11.460 You know, a lot of these instances, yes, people are losing their jobs or losing their livelihoods, my husband included.

00:14:16.360 No one is safe from these indiscriminate mandates, including my own family.

00:14:22.140 But we had an idea that this was coming.

00:14:24.900 And so we were able to prepare.

00:14:26.960 And it doesn't make it any less insane and unfortunate.

00:14:31.600 But be prepared and try to be patient because there are a lot of really good, strong lawyers and groups working behind the scenes to rein this back in.

00:14:43.460 And we just don't hear about it.

00:14:44.560 So just being patient and knowing that there are a lot of people working behind the scenes to set that good, solid precedent and move forward into 2022.

00:14:55.540 Thanks so much for working so hard to bring people to straight facts, whether it's on legal issues or on vaccine issues or on mandate issues.

00:15:04.880 You're the one, I think, in the company that does the most amount of work to just get people the information that they cannot get anywhere else.

00:15:13.660 And you're talking to the experts all over the place.

00:15:15.520 So I just appreciate that.

00:15:17.060 And I'm thanking you on behalf of all of our people.

00:15:19.320 And I want you to have a really great weekend.

00:15:20.700 25 years ago, we started this airline with the belief that air travel could be better.

00:15:31.840 Today, our commitment to caring for our guests and WestJetters is stronger than ever.

00:15:36.960 From before you depart to after you arrive and at every point in between, we have your well-being at heart.

00:15:43.560 WestJet's slogan is, we care.

00:15:46.360 But if their actions indicate anything, it's that that is simply not true.

00:15:51.020 With Christmas fast approaching, WestJet has terminated countless employees based on their vaccination status.

00:15:58.980 These aren't just terminated contracts, however.

00:16:01.680 These are people.

00:16:03.140 People with names.

00:16:04.260 Hi, my name is Shannon Lyons.

00:16:06.360 I've been working with WestJet as a flight attendant for 10 years.

00:16:09.380 And I've recently been fired because I refuse to disclose my vaccination status.

00:16:13.740 Hi, my name is Janet Heigate.

00:16:15.220 I go by Jan.

00:16:16.040 I've been working for WestJet and WestJet Vacations for 17 and a half years.

00:16:20.440 And I've recently been let go because of my vaccination status.

00:16:24.200 My name is Jacqueline.

00:16:25.860 And I've been with WestJet for 21 years as a flight crew member.

00:16:29.400 I recently was terminated by WestJet for not disclosing my private medical information.

00:16:35.880 I would like to remain anonymous, but I've been a character member with WestJet for 20 years.

00:16:41.360 And I was recently fired because I refused to disclose my vaccination status.

00:16:46.700 WestJet has, I mean, our motto was we care, right?

00:16:51.860 And they haven't.

00:16:54.720 They haven't cared across the board.

00:16:57.740 Sorry.

00:16:58.860 No.

00:17:00.140 So many of my colleagues, like we have done, we have missed birthdays, we've missed Christmases,

00:17:06.460 we've missed events for our family.

00:17:09.520 And, you know, some of us here today have flown the whole time through COVID.

00:17:15.320 And all of a sudden it's like there's no discussion, there's no option.

00:17:22.220 They said, well, you can apply for an exemption.

00:17:26.140 No one got exemptions.

00:17:27.460 Like, no one I know got them.

00:17:31.000 And I know a hundred people for sure that tried.

00:17:34.420 And they were told their religious exemptions were insincere, that their medical requests were not enough.

00:17:42.260 Like, I'm sorry if you have an allergy, but, you know, get some Benadryl or something.

00:17:46.740 Like, it was just cold.

00:17:49.000 And we have jumped from, like, okay, is this actually legal for you guys to do?

00:17:56.840 I have had severe allergies, anaphylactic.

00:18:00.240 I had a reaction to the flu shot back in 2009.

00:18:03.580 I've got severe allergies to so many things.

00:18:06.660 And that when I started WestJet, they even set up a allergy scent-free area for me to work.

00:18:14.040 And Clyde Bido was fantastic.

00:18:15.740 You know, he's always accommodating.

00:18:16.940 So I didn't think twice that there would be an issue this time around with me having some sort of accommodation for my health.

00:18:24.120 And so I did give in, and I took the first shot.

00:18:29.620 I had a severe reaction.

00:18:31.960 Within a few minutes, I was having difficulty breathing.

00:18:35.020 I couldn't.

00:18:35.800 I had hives, swallowing, I had heart palpitations.

00:18:40.500 And I continue to this day having side effects with headaches and earaches and muscle pains.

00:18:47.720 And last week, I had to go for some special test.

00:18:50.740 Like, this is just ongoing.

00:18:52.100 And I thought, there's no way I can take a second shot or a third shot.

00:18:57.080 Which one is going to kill me?

00:18:58.420 Because We Care is the motto of WestJet, which apparently they've completely abandoned.

00:19:02.980 They're the second largest air carrier in the country.

00:19:05.380 But they've also moved to terminate unvaccinated employees or employees who are simply unwilling to divulge their vaccination status to their direct managers.

00:19:15.140 Now employees who have been with the company for years,

00:19:17.460 Employees who have built the company from the ground up are on unpaid leave.

00:19:22.420 Which, as you know, is basically constructive dismissal.

00:19:27.540 WestJet was founded in Calgary.

00:19:29.300 It's the West's airline.

00:19:31.720 And yet, it has completely moved away from those Western sensibilities of freedom and minding your own business.

00:19:38.740 Now, Calgary-based reporter Adam Sos has sat down with some WestJet employees to hear their stories.

00:19:47.420 To hear the stories you won't hear in the mainstream media.

00:19:50.540 And it was one of the most moving and compelling stories of the pandemic that I've seen so far.

00:19:56.400 Adam, thanks for joining me.

00:19:57.840 I want to ask you, is there a sense of betrayal from these WestJet employees?

00:20:05.740 Because so many of them have been with the company for decades.

00:20:09.460 And yet now, just like that, they're gone.

00:20:12.780 Yeah.

00:20:13.120 Betrayal is the word that several of them used.

00:20:17.280 Much like many Western Canadians, there is a sheer sense of loyalty to WestJet.

00:20:22.740 But for the longest time in my life, when someone said Air Canada or one of these other airlines, I was like, well, why not WestJet?

00:20:28.400 That's ours.

00:20:29.320 There's a sense of pride among people who like WestJet broadly.

00:20:32.720 But particularly for these employees, they said they breathe and bleed teal.

00:20:37.760 They've put in 10, 20 years.

00:20:41.040 Some set to retire as early as November of next year.

00:20:44.980 So these are people who have built the company.

00:20:46.980 Furthermore, some of these people said they've actually spoken with some of the president, CEOs, higher up people because they called them not long ago, just before COVID, saying, well, you're the people who are out in the field.

00:20:58.480 You're the people who are building this company.

00:21:00.680 We need to hear from you.

00:21:01.960 We need to learn from you.

00:21:03.100 So I think that was back to the WestJet Cares era with the onset of COVID.

00:21:07.760 Like so many companies who were beloved and very often very decent to their employees, as COVID set in, they've been throwing people out left, right and center like they've done absolutely nothing for them.

00:21:20.780 I think on the note of betrayal, one of the things that really sort of struck me the most is lots of these people are not even receiving notification of termination.

00:21:29.280 They're just actually like this is sickening.

00:21:31.300 They're being locked out of their accounts.

00:21:33.220 I know the case that we're working on with a WestJet client was Sarah Miller of JSS Barristers through fightvaccinepassports.com.

00:21:41.300 She actually, the client that she's dealing with, she just found out because she couldn't log into her accounts and they were effectively terminated.

00:21:48.260 No one ever even spoke with them.

00:21:49.860 So betrayal is the fitting word, certainly. 0.91

00:21:53.000 And it seems, and again, from the outside looking in, sort of antithetical to the culture of WestJet or what we knew to be the culture of WestJet.

00:22:00.260 WestJet has always been resistant to unionization.

00:22:03.220 Because they took care of their employees.

00:22:05.640 They didn't need a union to tell them how to treat their employees properly.

00:22:09.120 If I recall, WestJet employees used to be able to buy shares of the company and the companies would match those shares for them.

00:22:17.320 So, you know, they really treated the employees like they were owners, but not so much anymore, hey?

00:22:23.160 No.

00:22:23.640 And I know that that may have changed sort of gradually over time.

00:22:26.820 There are some employees who are unionized, some who are not.

00:22:29.620 But this whole, in addition to the caring slogans that are thrown about, is owner's care.

00:22:34.860 And they're very much a company that was proud that some of their higher-ups were people who worked through the company and that their people were buying in.

00:22:41.320 One of the stories of one of the people we talked with, she actually used some of her share equity.

00:22:47.500 She took it out and then she was sending her son through piloting school because she wanted him to work for WestJet.

00:22:54.540 That's the extent to which the people love this company.

00:22:57.900 And for that to be thrown away without consideration is reprehensible.

00:23:03.620 And obviously, as you see in the videos, it's extremely upsetting.

00:23:07.280 Everyone we spoke with was crying, every single one of them.

00:23:10.760 It was a very difficult interview, as you can certainly see in the video.

00:23:14.540 Now, something interesting just came out in the last, I don't know, 36 hours by the time this video goes to air.

00:23:21.000 Justin Trudeau has issued a travel advisory suggesting Canadians refrain from non-essential travel.

00:23:28.760 Now, who's mad about this?

00:23:30.320 The WestJet group.

00:23:31.860 They issued a strong statement in opposition to it.

00:23:35.860 WestJet suggests that Canada's recommendations on travel are, quote, this is my favorite,

00:23:40.300 not based on science and data and significantly undermines aviation's proven safety record.

00:23:46.460 Their statement also calls the measures a setback in Canada's progress in the country's successful transition from relying on blanket advisories and policies.

00:23:55.940 I would tend to agree with WestJet here, but their forced vaccination, no job, no job, no jab policy also flies in the face of science.

00:24:06.920 Since those WestJet flight attendants and other employees, they were able to work successfully for now, 21 months, safely, no problems.

00:24:17.120 And now they're being fired because they won't get the jab.

00:24:20.920 Well, and this is the thing that's shocking on the anti-science front is numerous of these people we spoke with were flight attendants.

00:24:27.900 And they worked through SARS, H1N1, the swine flu.

00:24:32.260 They worked through all of this.

00:24:33.820 If there's so much, as they joked one time that they found blue mold on a cheese on an airplane and they actually had to stop and scrub the whole airplane.

00:24:42.820 So this is a very regulated sanitary industry that deals with transmissible diseases on a wide scale.

00:24:50.120 So they were working through this no problem.

00:24:52.000 It wasn't until vaccine companies started selling vaccines that this suddenly became a concern.

00:24:57.120 But let's say you are entirely on board with vaccines.

00:25:00.720 You believe in them.

00:25:01.680 You trust them.

00:25:02.460 You think they're the miracle drug that Jason Kenney et al suggests that it is.

00:25:06.960 Well, it's still anti-scientific because on one front, one of the people we spoke with, she actually had, she was on board.

00:25:15.600 She got the first shot, had a severe medical reaction to that shot.

00:25:20.440 Her doctor said, do not get another shot again.

00:25:22.860 Literally, this wasn't a general opposition to vaccines.

00:25:25.720 She has all her vaccines.

00:25:27.120 She had a serious medical episode from the COVID-19 shot.

00:25:31.460 And the doctor said, do not get another shot.

00:25:34.140 Furthermore, if that wasn't bad enough, she's been working from home and doesn't go into the office. 0.97

00:25:38.680 So she has no contact. 0.94

00:25:40.120 Like, this is just an absolutely ridiculous case. 0.80

00:25:42.760 And WestJet needs to shake their head because it's unscientific on so many fronts. 0.74

00:25:46.540 Some of the other cases were people who have antibodies and paid for the testing themselves have gotten COVID, whether through the line of work or outside.

00:25:55.780 But these aren't people who are just saying, I'm not doing this because I don't want to.

00:25:59.880 Which, if you want to say that, you should be able to.

00:26:01.940 Sure.

00:26:02.060 This is a free country.

00:26:02.780 But these are the most extreme and nuanced examples of 10 reasons these people shouldn't be getting vaccinated.

00:26:10.020 And WestJet has thrown the science out the window.

00:26:13.220 I, for one, am certainly hopeful that these people will have their day in courts as far as settling severance.

00:26:20.140 Particularly in the case of these individuals who got the first shot, tried to do everything right, complied, went through all the steps.

00:26:27.400 And short of risking their lives again, they couldn't get the second shot.

00:26:32.040 Yeah, that's one of the things that has really struck me about some of these vaccine mandates.

00:26:37.680 Yesterday's heroes are today's anti-vaxxing lunatics.

00:26:40.980 If you follow the mainstream media.

00:26:43.080 These are flight attendants who didn't know how deadly COVID was or wasn't at the beginning of the pandemic.

00:26:51.240 But they went to work anyway because they love their job.

00:26:54.220 They love their guests.

00:26:55.340 They don't even call them customers.

00:26:56.720 They call them guests.

00:26:58.200 And they wanted to keep the economy moving.

00:27:00.400 People need to travel for the economy, for work.

00:27:03.380 I remember taking a flight early in the pandemic.

00:27:07.340 And flight attendants looked like they were going to brain surgery. 1.00

00:27:10.460 Because they were being exposed to people who, you know, testing.

00:27:15.760 We didn't really quite know how that worked.

00:27:17.320 We didn't know how transmissible COVID was, how it even spread, how bad it was, what the comorbidities were.

00:27:23.820 But these flight attendants were showing up to work every single day. 1.00

00:27:27.440 And now, 21 months later, they're tossed out just like unvaccinated firefighters are, just like unvaccinated cops are.

00:27:35.220 Um, it's so fascinating how quickly they went from, you know, the bravest ones amongst us to just get the jab or lose your house.

00:27:46.880 Yeah.

00:27:47.640 Yeah.

00:27:47.880 It's, uh, it's vexing.

00:27:49.620 And it just lets you know the extent to which so many of these corporations, um, are just get along bottom dollar kind of guys.

00:27:57.800 Um, listen, if you want to do that, that's fine.

00:28:00.160 I understand that's how lots of the major Chinese corporations operate.

00:28:03.680 But you can just knock that we care, owners care, all of that right out of your name and stop pretending you're the good guy, WestJet.

00:28:10.600 Because you're not.

00:28:11.940 This is a massive story.

00:28:13.720 Thousands of people replied that they're no longer supporting WestJet.

00:28:17.280 They'd rather walk than fly with this airline any longer.

00:28:20.420 Um, short of a serious apology and bringing all these people back, um, this should have a serious adverse effect on this company.

00:28:28.180 And rightfully so.

00:28:29.380 One, getting rid of skilled employees who've worked for the company for years, who have done everything right, that is going to affect your bottom dollar.

00:28:37.080 That period.

00:28:38.640 Throwing them out in such a dramatic fashion where you're not giving them any severance, you're not even notifying them, you're just cancelling their accounts and shutting them off.

00:28:46.860 It is villainous.

00:28:48.220 It's outright villainous.

00:28:49.300 And there should be consequences for that sort of villainy.

00:28:52.440 Now, we are taking on one case from WestJet.

00:28:57.120 Why don't you tell us a little bit about how people can support that legal challenge and find out a little bit more about it?

00:29:04.560 Yeah.

00:29:04.840 So Fight Vaccine Passports is the place to go.

00:29:07.700 There is a video and perhaps we can toss a link to it or you can look it up with Sarah Miller talking about the case.

00:29:13.900 We're just sorting out some details with that client as well.

00:29:16.080 So we will be doing an interview with them shortly.

00:29:18.820 But they are effectively a client who has been working from home for years, has no contact with other people and is therefore unwilling to be vaccinated.

00:29:28.020 We'll get into more details in a detailed interview.

00:29:30.260 But another one of these crazy cases where this person has been working from home, doing everything right, no contact with everybody.

00:29:36.620 And again, without even so much as a phone call to say thanks for your service, they've been shown the door.

00:29:41.400 We say that we're taking this on.

00:29:43.260 But I think ultimately what we mean is our viewers are taking this on.

00:29:46.400 The donations at FightVaccinePassports.com that go to the Democracy Fund, which is a registered Canadian charity, so you get a tax receipt for that.

00:29:55.180 Those funds hire lawyers to defend these people who are being bullied.

00:29:59.760 Listen, if you can chip in $10, if you can chip in $100, if you can make a big donation to that, it's all being locked in to that registered charity.

00:30:07.840 And it is being used.

00:30:09.000 Rebel doesn't see a cent.

00:30:10.040 It's being used to hire lawyers to stand up for these people.

00:30:14.400 I think that this is likely the biggest civil liberties thing, period, happening in Canada right now.

00:30:22.280 And it's entirely possible because of our viewers.

00:30:25.060 So if you're someone who's outraged by how these WestJet employees were treated, if you're someone who's watched some of the police officers, the firefighters, the frontline workers, as Sheila said,

00:30:34.140 the people who have been thrown out after being heroes for 18, 20 months.

00:30:39.660 If you're outraged, go to FightVaccinePassports.com because this is where we draw our line in the sand, and this is where we say enough is enough, and we're going to see them in court, and we're going to hold these companies accountable.

00:30:50.380 Yeah, and it's the right time of the year to capitalize on that charitable tax credit through that partnership with the Democracy Fund.

00:30:56.740 So it helps your charitable tax donation make a difference in your tax bill and just introduction, get any more of your money than is absolutely necessary.

00:31:06.680 And as you rightly point out, we're just the vehicle by which we connect the people with the legal help that they need.

00:31:13.980 We often hear the thank yous from the clients, but really the thank yous belong to everybody who donates at FightVaccinePassports or at Fight the Fines.

00:31:24.700 All that money goes to the Democracy Fund to help people.

00:31:27.720 Total strangers.

00:31:28.540 That's the beauty of all of this.

00:31:29.660 There are Canadians helping total strangers because they care so deeply about civil liberties, and it is, you know, to hear the gratitude from these people, it sure fills my tank up to keep me fighting on another day.

00:31:45.120 Adam, I want to thank you so much for the work that you do for Canadian workers and in the interest of civil liberties.

00:31:52.240 You go out there every single day.

00:31:55.540 You don't just tell the stories and do the journalism.

00:31:58.060 You and the team in Calgary are really working hard to make Canada just a little bit more free.

00:32:03.180 Thanks very much.

00:32:03.940 Appreciate that.

00:32:04.440 You too.

00:32:05.700 Have a great weekend, Adam.

00:32:07.380 You too.

00:32:07.720 Today, however, I'm not telling you about the thousands upon thousands of your dollars that Justin Trudeau and his friends spend on booze in the sky, nor the hundreds of thousands of dollars they spend on food, but rather how the in-flight movies are causing controversy.

00:32:31.140 At least two of them were deemed not suitable for our female governor general at the time, Julie Payette. 1.00

00:32:36.940 Now, for some reason, the Department of National Defense sent us the list of movies available to the prime minister and his VIP friends to watch when they're on the government challengers.

00:32:48.940 The D&D didn't even send us the whole list.

00:32:51.220 They just sent us the B and C titles.

00:32:54.440 And I don't know why they did this.

00:32:56.540 I don't know if they're sending me this stuff to waste my time because I have to read it.

00:33:00.660 But you know what?

00:33:01.400 I did read the list.

00:33:03.120 And frankly, it's kind of heavy with Leonardo DiCaprio content.

00:33:06.000 So read into that what you will.

00:33:07.680 The Beach is on the list and Blood Diamond's on there, too.

00:33:10.600 Anyway, I thought it was sort of curious.

00:33:15.300 Something piqued my interest.

00:33:17.560 There are two movies on the list whose titles I can't know now because they were deemed inappropriate.

00:33:23.100 As in, the movies were listed as something Justin Trudeau could watch.

00:33:26.560 But they were deemed inappropriate for the Governor General Julie Payette to watch when she was on the flight.

00:33:32.980 Good gracious, what are those titles?

00:33:35.280 What did those movies have in them?

00:33:37.440 And why do these government bureaucrats think they need to go about the business of pre-censoring movies for the Lady Governor General? 1.00

00:33:45.120 I'm pretty sure she can make her own mind up about what she wants to watch on a flight.

00:33:50.100 Think whatever you want about Julie Payette, and I certainly do.

00:33:53.820 But the Queen's representative in Canada at the time is an autonomous adult woman who doesn't need a feminist government and their bureaucratic enablers telling her what she can't cast her pretty little eyes upon, that it might angry up her blood. 1.00

00:34:08.560 And also, again, I'm just dying to know what those movies were, and specifically what genre they fell under and what rating were they given.

00:34:17.360 R, X, Triple X.

00:34:19.500 Feminism for Justin Trudeau is when you fire prickly women you can't control, and wherein you have bureaucrats tell other women what they can't watch on a flight. 1.00

00:34:29.920 You know, you don't have to like the former Governor General Julie Payette, and it's my impression, frankly, that many people don't like her. 0.77

00:34:37.380 And I'm not even sure that I like her.

00:34:39.560 But what I do know is that it doesn't matter whatsoever in this story, because she's a fully formed adult woman capable of making up her own mind about what she can or cannot watch without some paternalistic so-called male feminist telling her she cannot watch certain things. 0.94

00:34:56.340 And what on earth was so inappropriate that other adults couldn't see it?

00:35:01.320 Anyway, on this story, Dawn writes,

00:35:03.060 Without exception, the list is long.

00:35:05.740 Every single politician I have seen who wears their morality on their sleeve is guilty of the exact thing they claim to be against.

00:35:14.460 You mean like Justin Trudeau fighting racism while doing blackface so many times that he lost count at three?

00:35:21.440 Or claiming to be a feminist while bullying prickly women out of their jobs? 1.00

00:35:25.880 Or do you mean like the male feminist Dion Buse who punched my camera into my face at the Women's March while his female enablers helped him escape?

00:35:36.760 You know what?

00:35:37.460 I think you're on to something, Dawn.

00:35:39.280 Now, in the same vein, Tame Thing says,

00:35:41.860 My husband says,

00:35:44.800 Doesn't Trudeau call himself a feminist?

00:35:46.580 So should he not be watching films he deems offensive to women?

00:35:49.980 Oh wait, he must be a feminist with perks. 0.99

00:35:53.240 Ah, he must be.

00:35:54.160 I'm dying to know what he was watching though, aren't you?

00:35:56.540 What was so outrageous that no one could know about it?

00:36:00.060 Not even after the fact in Access to Information.

00:36:03.080 Blocking this stuff for me?

00:36:04.740 It only makes me more curious and that's why I'm going to keep looking and keep filing until I find out what those titles were.

00:36:13.140 Well, friends, I think that's enough from me.

00:36:15.180 I want to thank David for letting me stand in for him tonight.

00:36:18.160 I want to thank the team in Toronto for putting together the hodgepodge of videos I sent them into something for our viewers at home to watch.

00:36:26.020 I think David will be back in the big chair next week.

00:36:29.300 And as David says,

00:36:30.920 Without risk, there can be no reward.

00:36:34.300 I want to thank David.

Rebel News Podcast - December 18, 2021

DAVID MENZIES ｜ WestJet Goes Grinch; Legal Realities of Fighting Lockdowns

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