Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Do we have an inherent need to hate people？ I think maybe we do — Justin Trudeau sure thinks so

00:00:00.360 Hello, my rebels. Did you ever read Orwell's book, 1984? There was something in it I never understood.

00:00:06.180 They called it Two Minutes Hate. And I think it was every day. They would stop everything, and for two minutes,

00:00:12.820 you had to shout and scream and wave your fists and hate the approved enemy.

00:00:19.020 And it was on all the telescreens or whatever, and then you go back to normal.

00:00:23.400 Two minutes of hate, and I thought, well, what was that about? How was that?

00:00:26.540 And I think I finally saw that in action, in two countries, actually,

00:00:32.800 and I'll take you through how that warning is coming true.

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00:01:21.680 Tonight, do we have an inherent need to hate people?

00:01:25.600 I think maybe we do. Justin Trudeau sure thinks so.

00:01:30.200 It's January 10th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:34.840 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:38.500 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:42.580 The only thing I have to say to the government, the wire publisher,

00:01:46.360 is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:48.420 Did you catch Justin Trudeau's comments the other day about how much he hated unvaccinated people?

00:01:58.840 He said unvaccinated Canadians, his own citizens, many of his own voters, 0.94

00:02:04.380 that they're extremists, they're misogynists, they're racist.

00:02:08.540 Yes, we're going to get out of this pandemic for the vaccination.

00:02:13.000 And we know all those people who are trying to hesitate a little bit.

00:02:17.400 We're going to continue to convince them.

00:02:19.300 But there's also people who are far away from the vaccination.

00:02:22.800 Who are extremists.

00:02:23.820 Who don't believe in science. 0.93

00:02:25.140 Who are often misogynists, who are often racist.

00:02:27.780 Trudeau tried out a version of that during last fall's election campaign too.

00:02:48.460 And really not a peep of objection from the corporate media.

00:02:51.920 Remember this?

00:02:52.420 Because everyone needs to get vaccinated and those people are putting us all at risk. 0.63

00:02:58.980 So he's dividing us.

00:03:00.180 He's demonizing people as enemies.

00:03:02.840 Enemies of the state and enemies of other citizens.

00:03:06.200 Enemies that we should hate too.

00:03:08.180 It's one thing for Trudeau not to like someone.

00:03:11.240 But for such a person to be deemed a racist or a sexist means we all have to hate them too.

00:03:17.160 I noticed how in that one clip he's pretending it's a question.

00:03:20.840 Should we tolerate them?

00:03:22.420 Which suggests the answer could be no.

00:03:26.040 Because if it was unthinkable you wouldn't ask.

00:03:30.780 That's similar to what Emmanuel Macron, the president of France, said.

00:03:33.240 He said he wanted to make it as uncomfortable as possible to be unvaccinated.

00:03:38.360 So the abuse, the discomfort was the point.

00:03:41.000 It wasn't an unfortunate side effect of good public policy.

00:03:45.100 It was the public policy.

00:03:47.220 Here's how the left-wing pro-Macron Guardian newspaper put it.

00:03:52.420 They said,

00:03:53.340 I am not about pissing off the French people, the president said in an interview with readers of La Parisienne on Tuesday.

00:04:01.280 But as for the non-vaccinated, I really want to piss them off. 1.00

00:04:06.140 And we will continue to do this to that end.

00:04:09.400 This is the strategy.

00:04:11.520 And then he said, 1.00

00:04:12.200 In a democracy, the worst enemies are lies and stupidity, Lecron said. 0.99

00:04:17.260 We are putting pressure on the unvaccinated by limiting as much as possible their access to activities and social life. 1.00

00:04:24.680 And he said,

00:04:25.320 When my freedoms threaten those of others, I become someone irresponsible.

00:04:29.360 Someone irresponsible is not a citizen.

00:04:33.440 Now, he was speaking French, and he actually said en français,

00:04:37.520 Forgive my accent.

00:04:42.020 But if you know the French word, merred, it tells you more precisely what he actually said by Emmerde.

00:04:48.240 The president of France actually said he wants to, and I'm sorry, I'm going to swear here. 0.99

00:04:53.600 He wants to shit on the unvaccinated. 1.00

00:04:56.260 It's not the English phrase, piss off. 1.00

00:04:58.760 It's the French word.

00:05:00.340 And in the name of public health and public interest, he's going to do that.

00:05:03.460 We're seeing some crazy talk like that here in Canada.

00:05:07.940 Trudeau's health minister talking about a forced vaccine for everyone.

00:05:13.400 The so-called conservative premier of New Brunswick says the same thing.

00:05:18.280 And how do you deal with the unvaccinated?

00:05:20.420 Well, I'm in the case that if you can accommodate, you know, we always thought 90 percent or so was,

00:05:25.580 at one time we thought 75 percent was herd immunity, and then it went to 90 percent.

00:05:29.920 So it is 90 percent the right number.

00:05:32.000 And if we have 90 percent people that are fully vaccinated and continue to be so,

00:05:36.700 and that allows society to function as normally, then that's fine.

00:05:40.440 But we haven't gotten to that point.

00:05:42.820 So if we continually have outbreaks because of the 10 percent that refuse to be vaccinated,

00:05:48.120 then we have to go to the next level.

00:05:50.140 So I would say accommodation is, you know, you look at flu shots.

00:05:53.240 There's a lot of things that we do as routine.

00:05:56.220 This needs to be routine.

00:05:57.480 But we have to decide first and know that would that 10 percent be jeopardizing our health system? 0.62

00:06:03.580 And right today, I think because we haven't stabilized with this COVID virus, we don't know that.

00:06:09.840 But that is a key factor on how hard you need to go.

00:06:12.800 That's odd, blaming the unvaccinated, because I think that premier himself is vaxxed and he got the disease.

00:06:18.240 In fact, by far, the majority of people in Canada getting sick are vaccinated.

00:06:23.900 New Brunswick hides its statistics.

00:06:26.340 No surprise there.

00:06:27.420 But here are Ontario stats.

00:06:30.020 So, yeah, I'm just going to go out on a limb here.

00:06:32.660 Perhaps the rage directed at the unvaccinated, who are clearly not the problem statistically and who are logically not the problem.

00:06:41.800 I mean, how is this person not taking a vaccine a problem for you if you are truly vaccinated?

00:06:49.260 But dial up the hate anyway.

00:06:51.320 And here's my thinking on that.

00:06:53.080 I was talking with our team about it.

00:06:54.720 Why the rage from politicians who normally talk about sunny ways?

00:07:01.200 Remember Trudeau would talk about sunny ways, how Stephen Harper was the grouchy one and Trudeau was the smiley one?

00:07:08.560 You know, there's a phrase the left invented under human rights ideology.

00:07:12.180 We have to accommodate people.

00:07:14.300 Reasonable accommodation.

00:07:16.260 It meant you had to accept someone different than you, even if it caused you some hardship at your business.

00:07:22.360 For example, you had to be reasonable to accommodate some difference.

00:07:25.660 It's like if someone's Sabbath was on a Friday or a Saturday, you should schedule them off on that day.

00:07:32.800 But they can work on a Sunday.

00:07:34.280 That's what they mean.

00:07:35.020 It was a tolerance thing.

00:07:36.540 I think most people are on side with it.

00:07:39.140 It's a liberal thing.

00:07:40.500 But here's Catherine McKenna, mercifully no longer a cabinet minister, talking about reasonable accommodation for unvaccinated people.

00:07:47.580 Who, by the way, there's plenty of good reasons to be unvaccinated, medical reasons, religious reasons, reasons of conscience.

00:07:54.760 And she says, pretty sure most Canadians want them to be unaccommodated. 0.83

00:08:00.720 When did the Liberal Party, the party of the Charter of Rights, become this way?

00:08:05.980 Not just that, but the whole anti-bullying thing, which is half the curriculum in schools these days.

00:08:12.360 Don't be mean.

00:08:14.760 Don't judge people who are fat.

00:08:16.720 And fat shaming in the media.

00:08:18.540 They put really fat people on the cover of Glamour magazines now. 0.97

00:08:22.700 You can't say a word about transgender people, even if they're destroying women's and girls' sports for biological women. 1.00

00:08:29.580 You can't say anything about anyone. 0.66

00:08:32.460 No jokes even.

00:08:33.740 Not even comedians can make jokes about things in jokes.

00:08:37.940 No bullying, tolerate everyone, tolerate everyone, everything.

00:08:41.680 Certainly no picking on weak or vulnerable people.

00:08:44.100 No sexism, no ageism, no whitesplaining, no mansplaining.

00:08:49.040 But then this torrent of official hate from Trudeau and McKenna.

00:08:54.300 And for the first time in a long time, I remember that passage from the book 1984.

00:08:59.420 Let me read it to you.

00:09:00.200 They stopped the world in the novel for two minutes, the whole society, to rage, to express hatred for two minutes at the government-approved target.

00:09:10.860 Let me read.

00:09:11.300 The horrible thing about the two minutes hate was not that one was obliged to act apart, but that it was impossible to avoid joining in.

00:09:21.160 Within 30 seconds, any pretense was always unnecessary. 0.90

00:09:24.900 A hideous ecstasy, a fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledgehammer, 0.98

00:09:33.580 seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic. 0.66

00:09:42.860 And yet the rage that one felt was an abstract, undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to another like the flame of a blow lamp.

00:09:52.300 Just to remind you, they had some official enemy.

00:09:55.420 One day it was East Asia, one day it was Eurasia, whichever country they were at war at. 0.82

00:10:00.600 And the personification of the enemy was always Emanuel Goldstein, some schemer always behind the setbacks in society to blame. 0.73

00:10:08.580 So whatever was going wrong in society, I don't know, crops fail, corruption, I suppose even a natural disaster, but usually a government-made political disaster.

00:10:17.940 It was always the fault of the scapegoat, in that case Emanuel Goldstein and the national enemy of the day, because you had to feel anger about your life.

00:10:26.440 It was so dark and dreary and sad and impoverished and uncomfortable, everything about your life was miserable.

00:10:32.300 Naturally, you felt feelings of anger and hate and grievance, and you definitely couldn't hate anything official.

00:10:38.880 You couldn't hate the actual thing that caused the misery, certainly not the government, let alone Big Brother.

00:10:45.620 So your hatred was encouraged as long as it was channeled and directed to Big Brother's enemy.

00:10:52.680 Same thing happened in Orwell's Animal Farm, actually. 0.99

00:10:54.980 When there was a setback, it was blamed on saboteurs and underminers, never on the pigs. 0.98

00:11:00.940 Trudeau has been a total failure from the very beginning. 0.99

00:11:04.720 So have the provincial premiers, by the way.

00:11:06.480 So obviously have the public health officials who are just playing.

00:11:09.940 Simon says, repeating whatever Anthony Fauci says, though what he says always changes, all the experts are wrong, the media is wrong, the police are wrong, the politicians lie.

00:11:19.500 I mean, remember this guy?

00:11:20.900 What's your position on vaccine passports for those individuals unwilling to be vaccinated?

00:11:24.840 Opposed.

00:11:25.340 And we've been very clear from the beginning that we will not facilitate or accept vaccine passports, 0.83

00:11:29.900 and that, in fact, we regard, I believe that they would, in principle, contravene the Health Information Act and also possibly the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act.

00:11:41.460 We also amended the Public Health Act to remove the 110-year-old power, allowing Alberta to force people to be inoculated.

00:11:49.180 So these folks who are concerned about mandatory vaccines have nothing to be concerned about, and there will be no vaccine passports in Alberta.

00:11:55.200 And will the provincial government act on behalf of Alberta's citizens if the federal government seeks to impose such restrictions?

00:12:00.820 Yes.

00:12:01.520 Yeah.

00:12:02.460 Don't remember that, people.

00:12:04.440 Best to get angry at some scapegoat.

00:12:07.400 In Alberta, it's that annoying pastor, Arthur Pavlovsky.

00:12:10.420 Or in Toronto, it was that annoying restauranteur, Adam Skelly, or whoever.

00:12:14.160 But best to demonize the unvaccinated. 1.00

00:12:16.480 It fits right in with the proven demonology used by the Nazis. 0.95

00:12:21.880 Jews were unclean. 1.00

00:12:22.920 That was literally a Nazi propaganda line. 0.98

00:12:25.460 Just refresh it and put it in the unvaccinated.

00:12:27.440 So let me end with a little story that perhaps you missed over the weekend when our correspondent, Yankee Pollack, first played it to me.

00:12:33.600 Frankly, I didn't think it was newsworthy, I'll tell you.

00:12:35.980 It's a recording of some guy, some anonymous guy, who knows who, some random person calling up a kosher Jewish grocery store in Quebec and abusing the Jews for being unvaccinated or something like that.

00:12:47.500 And I actually think that most Jews in Quebec, even Orthodox Jews, are vaxxed.

00:12:52.920 The one thing is that they just don't stop going to their synagogue just because there's a lockdown.

00:12:57.520 They really take that part of their life seriously.

00:12:59.840 So I think it's the fact that they just go to synagogue no matter what the public health tyrants say.

00:13:06.640 And people sort of know that the Jews do that.

00:13:09.440 And because Orthodox Jews are so visibly distinct, they have beards, they dress a certain way, the hats. 1.00

00:13:15.640 So they can be spotted a mile away and that look can be a proxy for, well, not being unvaxxed so much, but it's going to gatherings illegally.

00:13:24.420 I think that's what it is.

00:13:25.480 If you had to scan a thousand people by sight alone, could you tell who was vaxxed or not?

00:13:33.100 Probably not.

00:13:34.880 Maybe someone wearing a mask or not would help you figure it out.

00:13:37.600 But lots of Orthodox Jews wear masks.

00:13:39.760 It's just the Orthodox Jews go to gatherings.

00:13:43.460 So there's a proxy for unvaccinated people or people who aren't following the rules.

00:13:47.860 Listen to this for a couple of minutes and I'll come right back on the other side.

00:13:51.400 No, English.

00:13:52.820 English.

00:13:53.440 You don't even speak French.

00:13:55.360 I speak English.

00:13:57.740 No, you're in Quebec here.

00:13:59.960 And first, I want to tell you something.

00:14:02.900 How do you want people to respect you if you don't respect the law?

00:14:07.520 Which law?

00:14:07.960 I'm going to do something.

00:14:09.460 All of you is going to go back from Quebec. 0.86

00:14:12.060 Go away.

00:14:13.280 You understand?

00:14:14.200 Uh-huh.

00:14:15.000 Yes. 1.00

00:14:15.780 Because you're a very bad person. 0.99

00:14:18.280 You understand? 0.98

00:14:19.520 Uh-huh.

00:14:21.080 Uh-huh.

00:14:21.400 And you answer me in English too.

00:14:23.700 So Quebec is going to go and see you for the French language. 1.00

00:14:27.780 And two, you are really stupid. 1.00

00:14:30.260 Okay? 1.00

00:14:30.540 When it's closed, it's closed.

00:14:32.280 You don't open.

00:14:33.680 And mask and all that.

00:14:34.980 You don't understand. 0.99

00:14:35.760 Your brain, it's very small. 0.95

00:14:39.320 You understand that? 0.81

00:14:40.920 Okay.

00:14:41.540 You don't understand?

00:14:42.640 We have a various...

00:14:44.480 For you, it's not true, huh?

00:14:47.040 It's not true.

00:14:48.060 It's not there.

00:14:49.360 There's about, I don't know how much thousand people.

00:14:52.060 It's in a hospital now.

00:14:53.880 But for you, it's nothing, huh? 1.00

00:14:56.660 You're really stupid. 1.00

00:14:58.160 And I'm going to check to every people know that. 1.00

00:15:02.620 You understand?

00:15:04.180 Okay.

00:15:04.960 Do what you have to do.

00:15:06.380 Yeah.

00:15:06.900 And you go away.

00:15:08.940 Because it's going to be very bad for you.

00:15:10.860 We're not going anywhere.

00:15:11.980 We're staying here in Montreal.

00:15:13.020 No, no, you're going to go back where you are.

00:15:16.300 Because, you know, it's just you.

00:15:18.220 Why, Jewish? 1.00

00:15:19.320 Don't f*** around. 1.00

00:15:20.760 Why you f*** around? 1.00

00:15:22.360 We like you, but now you're church, married. 0.99

00:15:25.780 Why you do that, Tabarnak?

00:15:27.520 You don't understand.

00:15:28.300 So if you believe him, he's not actually a deep Jew hater.

00:15:32.580 He's not using extreme anti-Semitic language like the equivalent of the N-word for Jews.

00:15:38.260 He's not calling for a gas chamber.

00:15:39.580 He's not a neo-Nazi who has the phraseology of anti-Semitism down pat.

00:15:43.940 I think he even sort of said there that he used to be friendly to the Jews. 0.99

00:15:47.200 It's just that he thinks Jews are breeding disease now. 1.00

00:15:51.160 And they're the problem now. 1.00

00:15:53.080 And they ought not to be tolerated now.

00:15:55.380 And that was his two minutes of hate.

00:15:58.960 Who told them to do that?

00:16:01.480 Who told them to think that way?

00:16:04.040 Well, the media, the chief fearmongers, of course.

00:16:07.220 But who gave them the direction and, in fact, the moral permission to do that?

00:16:11.700 Well, well, this guy did.

00:16:13.400 Well, we're going to get out of this pandemic for the vaccination.

00:16:17.140 And we all know people who are trying to hesitate a little bit.

00:16:22.120 We're going to try to convince them.

00:16:24.020 But there are also people who are openly opposed to the vaccination.

00:16:27.500 Who are extremists.

00:16:28.520 Who don't believe in science.

00:16:29.860 Who are often misogynes. 0.78

00:16:31.600 Who are often racist. 0.96

00:16:32.600 This guy did.

00:16:45.320 Because everyone needs to get vaccinated.

00:16:48.900 And those people are putting us all at risk.

00:16:52.560 Justin Trudeau and the premiers and the health officers, they said it's okay to demonize.

00:16:57.840 It's okay to hate.

00:16:59.480 They radicalized that young caller in Quebec.

00:17:01.740 They made him a lockdown extremist.

00:17:04.680 Right now, that guy, whoever he is, is just making angry phone calls.

00:17:07.880 But how long until something gets physical?

00:17:10.320 The cops are already showing the example, aren't they?

00:17:13.100 The cops assaulting people.

00:17:16.520 Even Trudeau's own bodyguards beating up David Menzies.

00:17:19.500 And not a peep from any other media.

00:17:21.340 They love it.

00:17:23.140 So much of Orwell's warnings, so many of them have come true.

00:17:27.080 And that includes the two minutes hate.

00:17:30.280 It's here.

00:17:31.740 And not a single person in authority is speaking out against him.

00:17:38.080 Stay with us for more.

00:17:39.080 Thank you.

00:18:01.740 Well, that looks like fun.

00:18:05.200 In case you don't recognize it, that is the Serbian flag.

00:18:09.580 But that wasn't in Serbia.

00:18:10.680 That was in sunny Australia.

00:18:13.080 It's their summertime down there now.

00:18:14.960 They were dancing because an incredible thing happened over the weekend.

00:18:19.900 The world's best tennis player, Novak Djokovic, was flying to Australia to go to the Australian Open, a major tennis tournament.

00:18:30.080 Now, he's not vaxxed, but he has had the disease.

00:18:34.420 So he has natural immunity.

00:18:36.220 And he applied for an exemption.

00:18:38.720 He had his doctor report the facts.

00:18:42.060 The government in Australia at the state level reviewed it, approved it, issued him a proper exemption and the visa.

00:18:51.880 And to Australia, he flew.

00:18:53.580 But when that fact became public, it showed something that's been obvious from the beginning, that there are different rules for fancy people, for rich people, for rock stars in our country.

00:19:05.420 You can see it in hockey.

00:19:07.260 NHL leagues are allowed to play, but your kids aren't allowed to go to the local rink.

00:19:11.900 So the prime minister of Australia panicked, and he ordered the exemption and the visa revoked.

00:19:20.100 Oh, my God.

00:19:21.120 Here is Novak Djokovic's father just raging at what he called an imprisonment.

00:19:28.780 Take a listen to this.

00:19:30.340 They could have said, don't come, Novak, and that would have been OK.

00:19:33.980 But no, they wanted to humiliate him, and they're still keeping him imprisoned.

00:19:38.020 He's not in detention.

00:19:42.240 He's in prison.

00:19:43.320 They took all of his stuff, even his wallet.

00:19:46.000 They left him with just a phone and no change of clothes, nowhere to wash his face.

00:19:50.820 He's in prison. 1.00

00:19:52.140 Our pride is a prisoner of these idiots. 1.00

00:19:57.480 Shame on them. 1.00

00:19:58.480 The whole free world, together with Serbia, should rise.

00:20:01.820 This isn't a battle for Serbia and Novak.

00:20:03.700 It's a battle for seven or something billion people, for freedom of expression.

00:20:08.180 Free speech, freedom of behavior.

00:20:11.060 Novak didn't break any laws.

00:20:12.560 Just as seven billion people didn't break any laws.

00:20:14.940 They want to subdue us and throw us all on our knees.

00:20:18.220 It won't fly.

00:20:19.600 Freedom, Novak.

00:20:20.560 We're all with you.

00:20:21.440 Well, Novak Djokovic isn't just the world's best tennis player.

00:20:25.380 He knows how to instruct lawyers.

00:20:26.960 They, on an emergency basis, went to court and said, look, we did everything we were told,

00:20:31.680 and this is a capricious and political overturning of a medical exemption.

00:20:36.140 And wouldn't you know it?

00:20:37.900 He won.

00:20:39.400 And joining us now live from Australia via Skype is our chief Australia correspondent,

00:20:44.700 our friend Avi Amini.

00:20:45.680 Avi, great to see you.

00:20:47.600 Good to see you, Ezra.

00:20:49.420 Novak Djokovic is becoming a hero.

00:20:52.960 I'm not sure if he really is, but he turned into one.

00:20:56.000 He's just a tennis player, not very political, I don't think.

00:20:59.180 Followed the rules, had the rules changed on him.

00:21:01.980 And instead of cowering or going meekly, he decided to fight.

00:21:04.940 I guess that makes him a hero.

00:21:06.160 He didn't bend the knee.

00:21:06.980 I think he certainly is a hero in many people's eyes, especially around the world,

00:21:12.080 for standing up in something he believes in.

00:21:14.300 It's, you know, been apparent over the pandemic that he's held views,

00:21:18.920 not political views, about his body.

00:21:21.360 You're talking about one of the greatest athletes at the moment in the world

00:21:25.200 who has his own personal ideas of health.

00:21:30.460 And when he did travel to Australia with a medical exemption,

00:21:36.400 which, by the way, is not just by some doctor.

00:21:38.600 He went through state health panels, two panels from the Victorian state government

00:21:45.040 that gave him that exemption.

00:21:48.000 And he flew in with all the paperwork.

00:21:49.880 You can actually see when he flies into Melbourne, he pulls the paperwork out,

00:21:53.580 just expecting Border Force to accept it because it's all official documentation.

00:22:00.460 But not only did he win the case yesterday, if you watched the trial

00:22:06.740 and you heard some of the judges' comments, at one point especially,

00:22:11.240 I think it was 10.30 a.m., and that's when I tweeted, he's won.

00:22:15.680 This was hours before the end of the case because it was clear.

00:22:19.340 The judges turned around and said he was angry underneath.

00:22:24.440 And he goes, I just don't understand what more this man could have done.

00:22:30.460 And that was it.

00:22:31.540 That was the moment where I go, this is shut.

00:22:33.820 It's a question about what the ruling is going to be,

00:22:37.000 not whether they're going to quash it.

00:22:39.180 Yeah.

00:22:39.700 You know, there's so many things at play here.

00:22:43.440 First of all, the fact that a politician thought they could step in

00:22:48.360 and rewire a health decision shows it wasn't ever really about health.

00:22:54.180 This is all about politics, about control.

00:22:56.400 Well, I think the reason the prime minister of Australia panicked

00:22:59.300 is because of my earlier point that there's clearly –

00:23:03.540 I mean, and by the way, I think everyone should be able to get an exemption

00:23:06.960 if they have medical reasons, if they have natural immunity,

00:23:10.200 for example, if they have reasons of conscience.

00:23:12.260 So I'm not upset that Novak Djokovic got one.

00:23:15.100 But it's just that I can understand, even though I don't accept,

00:23:19.360 I understand why the prime minister panicked because he's locking down –

00:23:24.100 Go ahead.

00:23:25.160 I don't think he panicked.

00:23:27.400 I think, like you said before, everything's political these days.

00:23:31.140 The whole pandemic is politicized.

00:23:35.200 I think he did polling.

00:23:36.440 And what happened when – because a day before he arrived,

00:23:42.020 the prime minister was asked why he was given that exemption.

00:23:46.900 And the prime minister put it squarely on the state,

00:23:50.200 saying that they've actually given the power to the state

00:23:53.020 to make those decisions about who come in.

00:23:55.720 Yeah, here, let's take a quick look at that.

00:23:57.200 He's not taking his stance one way or the other.

00:23:59.240 He's saying it's a state decision made by Victoria.

00:24:01.920 Talk to them.

00:24:02.600 I'm not sure if that's passing the buck.

00:24:04.120 It's like Canada, certain jurisdictional things are at the local level,

00:24:08.340 some of the provincial, some of the federal.

00:24:10.020 So I think that was probably the right answer by the prime minister.

00:24:13.300 But he – like you say, he did the polling.

00:24:15.240 How do you think it's looked now that a judge has says

00:24:19.100 has just absolutely blown it up in the face of the whole establishment?

00:24:23.260 I think Novak's gotten far more support here now than he did

00:24:27.920 when he originally came in.

00:24:29.220 And that's what – I believe the prime minister misunderstood the poll.

00:24:33.220 Yes, most people were angry that Novak Djokovic got in here with an exemption,

00:24:39.060 not because people care whether he's vaxxed or not.

00:24:42.320 The reason why people were angry is because 93% of the population,

00:24:47.440 let's say 70% or 80% of that, did it under duress,

00:24:53.120 did it because the government said you can't go to work if you don't have that.

00:24:56.540 You can't – you essentially can't live.

00:24:58.600 And so many people who tried to get exemptions just couldn't get them.

00:25:04.460 So people were not angry at Novak.

00:25:06.400 They were angry at the fact that a celebrity who was coming here

00:25:10.840 to obviously make money for the state was given this exemption

00:25:14.760 that they couldn't get a hold of, even if they did have COVID.

00:25:19.120 Although having COVID is probably the only exemption that's a little easier

00:25:22.760 in Australia to get.

00:25:23.520 But even so, often it's almost impossible to get an exemption here.

00:25:28.420 And that's what people were angry about.

00:25:29.940 And I think when the federal government played their hand

00:25:33.620 and it became this rivalry between the state and federal government,

00:25:39.140 which both of them said they didn't want Novak here,

00:25:42.220 but the state health department or the special panel that was an independent panel

00:25:51.600 created by the state who did review everything and did give him his exemption

00:25:57.160 before he came in, it just became this pointing fingers where it was obvious

00:26:03.700 that he did jump through all the hoops that were put in front of him that was set out

00:26:08.400 and he did it all legally, and still they tried to...

00:26:14.400 It's just an example of everything we've been through.

00:26:16.440 The government think that the rule of law does not apply to them.

00:26:21.100 And that's exactly what we've seen throughout this pandemic here,

00:26:24.100 especially in Australia.

00:26:25.440 Well, it was nice to see a judge stand up against the government

00:26:28.640 for an unvaccinated person.

00:26:30.680 You don't see a lot of judges doing that.

00:26:32.840 Now, is there...

00:26:33.920 I've got two questions for you.

00:26:35.020 When is the Australian Open?

00:26:36.400 Is it today?

00:26:38.400 I believe it starts on Thursday.

00:26:42.140 Okay, so it's coming up quick.

00:26:42.880 But they did say...

00:26:43.680 Go ahead.

00:26:44.000 They said they needed an answer by today for scheduling.

00:26:47.700 So they needed to know...

00:26:49.180 Australian Open said they needed to know by today.

00:26:51.900 This was the deadline.

00:26:52.840 So the judge was working very, very fast.

00:26:56.300 This is one of the quickest cases we've seen.

00:26:58.080 Yeah.

00:26:58.340 Now, of course, every court has a court above it that an aggrieved party

00:27:04.480 who thinks they got the wrong ruling can appeal.

00:27:06.580 Do you know if the government is going to appeal their loss?

00:27:12.040 In this case, I don't think there's necessarily an appeal process in this

00:27:15.500 because it was an injunction.

00:27:16.920 So the root that the government still has, which right now is the talk of town,

00:27:23.340 is that the minister has a personal power to again go and re-cancel his visa.

00:27:33.860 So arbitrarily cancel the visa and the process starts again,

00:27:37.820 which essentially means he won't get into the Australian Open

00:27:40.320 because there's no way it's going to be all done by this afternoon.

00:27:44.560 So watch this space.

00:27:45.940 It's important. 1.00

00:27:46.540 My gut, I don't think they're stupid enough to do it. 0.99

00:27:53.460 If you watch the trial, you saw the state fumbled the whole way through, 1.00

00:27:59.580 even to the point of having ridiculous representation against two QCs.

00:28:05.720 And, you know, he threw everything at it and won, and won, you know,

00:28:10.820 in an amazing fashion.

00:28:12.960 And at the end of the ruling, the judge made it clear that if they were planning

00:28:19.320 on doing something like that, as in having the minister use his special powers,

00:28:26.480 he wants to know.

00:28:27.880 He wants to know everything that's happening.

00:28:30.220 And I think that it's almost a warning to the government.

00:28:34.060 Yeah.

00:28:34.920 Don't go down that route.

00:28:36.900 You know what?

00:28:37.260 Then there's private litigation.

00:28:40.320 Like, if you are the world's best tennis player, you're invited in good faith,

00:28:43.780 you accept in good faith, you jump through all the hoops,

00:28:45.680 and a court says you're fine.

00:28:46.960 And if you're blocked again, I would imagine the breach of contract,

00:28:51.880 the economic interference, whatever the tort would be called,

00:28:55.820 get ready to pay that man tens of millions of dollars.

00:28:58.640 But, of course, money's no object to the government these days.

00:29:01.200 It's just incredible, though.

00:29:03.240 I don't know.

00:29:03.860 I don't follow tennis, but I've got myself a new hero.

00:29:08.260 I'm in that same boat.

00:29:10.180 I've, you know, I never really would have cared.

00:29:13.680 But I think over the next couple of weeks as the Australian Open plays out,

00:29:18.440 I want to go hear from people, everyday people on the street

00:29:21.400 and from outside the Australian Open to see how people feel about what's happened.

00:29:26.820 The funny thing is, throughout all of this, on the major betting sites,

00:29:34.380 he was still coming up as the number one favourite to win the Australian Open,

00:29:39.000 even when they pulled him off the Australian Open tour official list.

00:29:44.000 So I think it's – I think he is going to play.

00:29:48.900 He is going to win.

00:29:50.040 And that is the best outcome to it all because it's exposed our government,

00:29:55.220 both on state and federal.

00:29:56.740 This is – this shows both sides of politics.

00:29:59.280 Our state is Labour Party.

00:30:00.680 Federal is Liberal Party.

00:30:01.680 So it is the right and the left, the conservatives,

00:30:04.180 and it just exposed them for exactly what they are,

00:30:08.540 people who believe that they are above the law,

00:30:10.820 who can use this pandemic how they wish to play politics.

00:30:15.820 Well, there you have it.

00:30:16.600 Avi Amini, thanks for getting up early Tuesday morning Australia time

00:30:21.220 to talk to us here on Monday evening in Canada.

00:30:24.480 Great to see you, my friend.

00:30:26.600 Good to see you.

00:30:26.920 All right.

00:30:27.200 There you have it, Avi Amini.

00:30:28.420 Stay with us.

00:30:28.980 More ahead.

00:30:37.200 Hey, welcome back.

00:30:38.120 Your feedback.

00:30:38.700 Michael Coffey says,

00:30:40.500 when the ideal is militant racial chauvinism,

00:30:43.980 impartial justice is oppressive.

00:30:46.600 You're talking about critical race theory.

00:30:48.800 Yeah, you know, it just – I mean, Canada feels fairly easygoing about race.

00:30:53.380 We don't – you know, we're not like Rwanda and the Tutsis and the Hutus. 0.99

00:30:56.760 We're not like Pakistan and India. 0.99

00:30:58.980 You know, we're not even like Jews and Palestinians or whatever.

00:31:02.960 Like, Canada is sort of far away from that,

00:31:05.420 and we didn't have a deep history of slavery or Jim Crow laws.

00:31:11.700 I mean, we have our Indian Act.

00:31:12.740 Let me put a big asterisk on that.

00:31:14.560 But that's not being dealt with by even leftists.

00:31:17.960 But to import that American structure – one thing I learned from Simon Saye is he's saying,

00:31:22.280 look, it's not about the actual history.

00:31:24.060 It's about forcing everyone into this Marxist format so we can destroy the existing culture.

00:31:31.040 I learned a lot from Simon Saye, and I hope we can have him on the show again.

00:31:39.320 Antonietto D'Onofrio says,

00:31:41.120 I haven't seen Dr. Bridal talk about that, but, you know, it's now everywhere.

00:32:03.900 By the way, I said the CBC has refused to cover that story.

00:32:08.360 They finally did.

00:32:10.000 24 hours later, they just ran some Associated Press pro-vaccine story.

00:32:15.720 They didn't do their own story on it.

00:32:18.540 It's interesting what's happening out of the Centers for Disease Control and the Food and Drug Authority now.

00:32:23.640 They're actually admitting what we've known from the beginning, that the vast majority of COVID deaths were actually deaths by people with three, four underlying serious comorbidities.

00:32:33.280 So I think what's clearly happening is that the official people, the deep state, the public health bosses have realized that if they keep up their extremist lockdownism,

00:32:44.740 it's going to be a devastating 2022 election for Joe Biden.

00:32:48.180 So whereas under Donald Trump, they wanted to magnify every problem by counting anyone who, you know, within 30 days of being admitted for problem X also had COVID,

00:32:59.020 they're trying to minimize the stats now under Joe Biden just to help him slouch through the finish line.

00:33:05.040 I think that's what's going on.

00:33:07.440 EnergyMind89 says,

00:33:08.640 Thank you, Samuel Saye, for speaking out.

00:33:11.120 Critical race theory is alive and thriving in Canada under the guise of diversity, equity and inclusion.

00:33:16.600 I used to subscribe to curio.ca for access to education materials, but found the content increasingly unusable, meaning woke.

00:33:25.500 Yeah, well, that's the thing.

00:33:26.540 I mean, how many leaders over history said, give me a child till age six or seven and I'll have them for life.

00:33:33.800 I mean, that's that's been the thinking of so many ideologies.

00:33:37.800 Just give me the kids and I'll indoctrinate them. 1.00

00:33:40.140 And I may not convince their parents, but I'll get their kids.

00:33:42.980 That's what terrifies me.

00:33:45.160 Well, that's our show for today.

00:33:47.020 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:33:51.280 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:33:52.320 And let me leave you with our video of the day.

00:33:54.100 Tamara Ugolini.

00:33:55.900 Families and educators gathered in Queen's Park in Toronto to advocate against Premier Doug Ford's province-wide school closures.

00:34:05.960 Yeah, I think Ontario's got to be one of the few places in the world that are shutting down schools.

00:34:10.880 It's junk science and we Canadians are getting the brunt of it. 0.92

00:34:12.940 Here's her video. 0.97

00:34:13.500 I'll see you tomorrow.

00:34:15.120 I don't think schools are unsafe at all.

00:34:16.980 I think they're ready to open tomorrow.

00:34:18.460 I think we have masks.

00:34:20.040 The teachers are vaccinated.

00:34:21.300 They should have been prioritized earlier to be boosted.

00:34:24.420 I think healthy teachers aren't at risk of contracting severe COVID.

00:34:29.720 We know our kids aren't at risk.

00:34:30.860 I don't understand why the Ford government keeps making this decision at the cost of our children.

00:34:35.640 Our kids are suffering because of any child I know that has had it has been very mild and absolutely even no symptoms.

00:34:43.340 So the fact that they're trapped at home because of the risk and possibility of catching it really outweighs the damage that they're having for their mental health and the lack of education that they're falling behind.

00:34:54.300 And also for children that are suffering from child abuse at home that no one even knows about.

00:35:00.880 I just feel I've never come to a protest in my life and I just I don't know what else to do to advocate for my children.

00:35:07.200 I want to pull my hair out every time I see the news to Mary Ugolini here with Rebel News.

00:35:15.140 I am on the lawns of Queens Park, downtown Toronto on Sunday, January the 9th for a back to school protest where parents have finally said that enough is enough and they want their kids back in class.

00:35:29.260 On Monday, January the 3rd, Doug Ford announced that he was closing schools again for just another two weeks.

00:35:37.300 We'll be delaying the return to in-class learning for the next two weeks and continue with virtual learning for the duration of the time away.

00:35:45.540 And while we know how that's gone previously, we are two years into and going on year three of two weeks to flatten the curve.

00:35:54.060 And finally, parents, educators and students alike have had enough and they do not want to see schools closed any longer.

00:36:01.400 So I'm going to head on into the crowd and get some feedback and see what we can find out.

00:36:05.740 Stay tuned.

00:36:06.220 I'm a parent, I'm a mother of four children, 12 and under, and I've seen them suffer academically tremendously.

00:36:15.900 I've seen them suffer mentally and my children are privileged children.

00:36:19.860 I cannot imagine every time I look at low-income housing or other areas where there's a single parent trying to work, maybe working outside the home, leaving young children by themselves.

00:36:31.000 This is, this is an emergency.

00:36:35.220 This is a real emergency for all children.

00:36:38.120 And I just can't understand why when we're in a pandemic and states of emergency have been posed, that children seem to be coming last.

00:36:47.580 Yeah, and Ford said that, right, that schools should be the last to close and the first to open and here we are closing them first.

00:36:53.680 So what would you like to see them do differently?

00:36:56.140 Well, I think that if I were looking at society, there are some things that you need to keep open in a pandemic.

00:37:03.420 You need to keep grocery stores, you need to keep pharmacies open.

00:37:06.040 And the government's main job actually is to manage hospitals and education.

00:37:09.940 And those things should be protected, period.

00:37:11.920 They should be made a priority.

00:37:13.640 And then managing numbers, the pandemic should be with everything else.

00:37:17.140 But children should be protected.

00:37:18.400 They can't advocate for themselves and their poor parents are exhausted beside themselves and just trying to cope, manage, pay the bills, economic stress and look after children.

00:37:31.340 And he's really picked on the most vulnerable area of society.

00:37:34.980 Why are you here protesting the school closures?

00:37:37.320 My name is Virginia Johnson.

00:37:38.460 And I'm here because I'm outraged that Ford continues to keep closing our schools.

00:37:43.980 Remote learning, we all know, is not learning at all.

00:37:47.740 And it's a mental health crisis for our kids.

00:37:50.260 I've experienced it in my own family.

00:37:52.200 And I don't know why that's not being taken into account.

00:37:55.680 Do you think that schools are inherently unsafe, as they claim?

00:37:59.680 I don't think schools are unsafe at all.

00:38:01.260 I think they're ready to open tomorrow.

00:38:02.740 I think we have masks.

00:38:04.240 The teachers are vaccinated.

00:38:05.380 They should have been prioritized earlier to be boosted.

00:38:08.700 I think healthy teachers aren't at risk of contracting severe COVID.

00:38:13.960 We know our kids aren't at risk.

00:38:15.240 I don't understand why the Ford government keeps making this decision at the cost of our children.

00:38:20.880 What would you like to see them do differently moving forward?

00:38:23.900 I would like them to prioritize schools and children and not close.

00:38:27.960 And you have a petition going here as well.

00:38:30.300 Would you like to tell us a little bit about the kind of feedback you've received?

00:38:33.080 So this is a petition that's going to the Legislative Assembly of Ontario.

00:38:37.220 We have 100, maybe 150 signatures that we've just gathered in the last hour and shows how much parents are desperate to have their kids back in a classroom.

00:38:46.300 My name is Bronwyn Alsop, and I'm the founder of Ontario Families Coalition, and we are a parent-led advocacy group that are wanting in-person learning for our children.

00:38:59.320 And I'm also an early childhood educator, and we put our children first for having in-person learning from JK to grade 12.

00:39:07.260 It's imperative that they have in-person learning.

00:39:10.020 Now, do you think that schools are, or do you agree with, rather, that this concept that schools are unsafe and that's why they should be shut down?

00:39:18.740 I believe that schools, definitely our children are safer in schools right now.

00:39:23.280 I agree with our medical officer of health, how children are safer in schools than outside of schools, because many families have had it, who have the privilege to pay for learning pods, who have other areas when they go.

00:39:34.020 I know people have already pulled their kids out line, and they've traveled to other areas outside of Ontario because they are sick of having their kids trapped, you know, on virtual learning.

00:39:43.820 And they don't want to put them through the torture of that, so if they have the financial privilege for it, they've gone and they've found other resources.

00:39:50.200 Families who are underprivileged, who do not have that luxury, are the ones who are forgotten and ignored and definitely suffering that no one seems to care about.

00:39:58.680 And all children, from every financial income, needs to be in-school and person learning.

00:40:04.740 And it's ridiculous that they think that they can keep, or Ford, that he can keep ignoring science.

00:40:10.200 He needs to follow science and stop dragging our kids through politics.

00:40:14.840 Your sign here says, kids need in-person learning, and then on the opposite side, there was, this is an Ontario problem.

00:40:22.420 Do you want to expand on that a little bit?

00:40:24.400 Well, if this was absolutely necessary to close schools for the safety of our children or the overall safety and risk, that would be one thing.

00:40:32.280 But there's no other jurisdiction in this country that has had their children out for months and months and months on end.

00:40:37.720 And the amount of damage that that's done to the next generation will not be known for years and years.

00:40:46.140 And in fact, if I were going to ask the government to do one other thing, it would be to reinstitute standardized testing for all children.

00:40:51.980 So we can see what's happened so far and start to make a plan as to how we're going to get them to catch up.

00:40:56.880 It's been clearly stated through science that the transmission in schools was very low throughout all of the other closures.

00:41:03.800 I know with Omicron that it spreads faster.

00:41:05.980 But anyone who I know who has had Omicron and even been double vaccinated with a booster, the symptoms have been very mild.

00:41:12.040 And it is something that I think that we truly have to normalize and that we have to look at this with our schools is that our kids are going to be safer in school.

00:41:18.800 And that our cases are going to be continuing to rise because that's what happens in this with the virus that we're coming hopefully to the end of this where it is going to be spreading faster.

00:41:28.900 And we have to normalize this where our kids are suffering because of any child I know that has had it has been very mild and absolutely even no symptoms.

00:41:37.980 It's so the fact that they're trapped at home because of the risk and possibility of catching it really outweighs the damage that they're having for their mental health and the lack of education that are falling behind.

00:41:49.180 And also for the children that are being child abuse, suffering from child abuse at home that no one even knows about and can't even talk right now because they have no voice.

00:41:58.300 So I'm disgusted that there's the assumption that every child is safe at home where the damage that's happening across our province with having school closures consistently is just awful.

00:42:09.740 It just cannot happen again.

00:42:11.660 What did you think of the turnout here today?

00:42:13.140 It's a pretty windy, blustery day.

00:42:15.200 I was really pleased people came out and supported.

00:42:17.660 I think we're coming where the momentum is and things have shifted where parents before were scared to speak out.

00:42:24.300 I would have tons of families that would come to me and they wanted to step out and stand up to have their kids to have in-person learning.

00:42:30.720 Even last year when they could see the damage that was happening within their homes.

00:42:34.380 But there was still the political concern and also fear of speaking out in your community and being out there to really raise your concerns publicly on how this was not right, that this was happening to your kids.

00:42:46.800 So I'm really seeing quite a shift in that where parents are coming out and standing up and not bringing anything else politically into this, except about schools.

00:42:56.760 I'm fully vaccinated.

00:42:58.420 I wear a mask every day at work.

00:43:00.180 I personally feel that we need to completely move forward with this and have our children in school.

00:43:08.420 And that's the only thing that we should be focusing on.

00:43:11.260 Is there anything I missed that you'd like to touch on?

00:43:15.660 No, I just feel I've never come to a protest in my life and I just, I don't know what else to do to advocate for my children.

00:43:22.760 I want to pull my hair out every time I see the news.

00:43:24.760 Well, the few people that I was able to catch and pull aside for an interview seemed to agree that schools are not inherently unsafe and they just want their kids back in class.

00:43:36.100 The harms far outweigh any projected modeling good that school closures could potentially have.

00:43:43.680 There is enough data and evidence to show that the school closures result in great harm to children and it's destroying families and their ability to cope through the pandemic.

00:43:53.760 Now, there was some mainstream media journalists here.

00:43:56.860 I was really happy actually to see that.

00:43:58.840 Hopefully, this gets some good light in the mainstream media.

00:44:02.640 There's been previously a lot of smearing of protesters and anyone who goes against the government's response to COVID.

00:44:09.680 They did get the luxury of sitting in their nice warm vehicles.

00:44:13.660 They're allowed up on the lawns of Queen's Park, you see, but not me at Rebel News.

00:44:17.820 Now, in order to continue to support this Back to Class initiative, I've started a campaign at backtoclass.ca where a lot actually of my original report that I published on January 5th, just a mere two days after Ford first announced his unscientific school closure again.

00:44:35.460 A lot of what I heard here today actually was in alignment with that original report, so I urge you to go and check it out.

00:44:45.220 All in all, there were about 75, maybe 100 people in attendance here, and because of the weather, it's very windy and quite cold.

00:44:53.540 A lot of people scurried out quickly after the speeches commenced, so I present to you the few that I was able to catch up with, and we'll see if any more protests occur as school closures remain in place.

00:45:08.480 For Rebel News at Queen's Park, Toronto, I'm Tamara Ugolini.

00:45:13.280 We're spearheading a campaign at backtoclass.ca to get kids back to class.

00:45:18.600 It's clear that parents, educators, and students all want to be back in the classroom, and it's finally time to say enough is enough, and let's advocate for these children who don't have voices of their own.

00:45:31.100 To sign our petition, our goal is 10,000 signatures.

00:45:34.280 I think we're up to almost 8,000 as of today.

00:45:37.040 That's Sunday, January the 9th.

00:45:40.280 We're up to about 8,000 signatures.

00:45:41.920 We also have an initiative there called One Click Politics, where you can send a form letter to the Minister of Education and the Premier of Ontario to urge them to open the schools and get kids back to class.

00:45:54.980 All of that information can be found at backtoclass.ca.

00:45:59.140 We'll see you next time.

Rebel News Podcast - January 11, 2022

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Do we have an inherent need to hate people？ I think maybe we do — Justin Trudeau sure thinks so

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