Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ They tried bribery, now they're punishing people with new taxes to take the vaccine

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today, Quebec's premier has announced a new tax on people who are unvaccinated.

00:00:05.420 I don't think he's thought it through. He doesn't have his details or his plans.

00:00:08.480 I really don't know how it would be implemented, but really, why should he roll out details or

00:00:14.280 plans? Most of the pandemic lockdown has been by press conference or by public statement,

00:00:19.120 not even by orders, let alone laws debated and passed in a parliament. That's so old-fashioned,

00:00:24.360 that whole parliament thing. Anyways, I'll take you through what it means,

00:00:27.700 how it's the end of universal healthcare, and who knows, it might even create vaccine refugees. 0.98

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00:01:08.580 independent. All right, here's today's show.

00:01:10.600 Tonight, first they tried convincing people to take the vaccine. Then they tried bribing people.

00:01:31.120 Now they're punishing them with new taxes. It's January 11th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:36.200 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:42.220 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:46.280 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:57.240 It's getting worse, not better. The politics, that is. Actually, the virus itself has never been weaker.

00:02:02.580 That's the thing about the Omicron variant. It's spreading like wildfire, but it's really no worse

00:02:07.760 than the cold. And it's causing strange things to happen. Healthcare workers who have the virus,

00:02:14.460 who are sick with it, they're being told to still go to work, to the hospital or wherever,

00:02:20.000 because it's just like a little cold. It's not debilitating. But imagine that you've got coronavirus,

00:02:26.200 COVID-19, and you're being asked to go to the hospital to work while people who didn't take the

00:02:33.520 vaccine were fired from work. That's probably why you need to work so much. Even though the people

00:02:38.940 who were fired may already be immune to it, and I mean actually immune, not what Pfizer says when

00:02:44.660 they mean immune, but really immune. So healthy immune people are fired. Sick, fake vaccinated people

00:02:52.180 are being called in to cover shifts because the healthy people were fired. Makes sense somehow.

00:03:00.380 Oh, here's the Pfizer boss saying that, if you doubt me.

00:03:03.900 And we know that the two doses of the vaccine offer very limited protection, if any. The three doses

00:03:10.700 with a booster, they offer reasonable protection against hospitalization and deaths.

00:03:18.260 Against deaths, I think, very good. And the vaccine is very good.

00:03:22.180 Less protection against infection. Now, we are working on a new version of our vaccine,

00:03:29.580 the 1.1, let me put it that way, that will cover Omicron as well. And of course,

00:03:36.520 we are waiting to have the final results. The vaccine will be ready in March.

00:03:43.000 Got it. So two doses of the vaccine offer very limited protection, if any. That's exactly what

00:03:50.080 he just said. Well, thanks for that. Now, a year later, how can you literally have that video out in

00:03:57.260 the morning and then in the afternoon have Quebec's premier announced that it is going to punish

00:04:02.440 anyone who doesn't take the vaccine by enforcing a new tax on them?

00:04:07.740 The vaccine is the key to fight the virus. This is why we're looking for a health contribution for adults

00:04:19.680 who refuse to be vaccinated for non-medical reasons. Those who refuse to receive their first dose in the

00:04:28.520 coming weeks will have to pay a new health contribution. These people put a very important burden

00:04:41.780 on our health care network. And I think it's normal that the majority of the population is asking

00:04:49.980 that there be a consequence. How does that work? Not 24 hours after the Pfizer CEO says the vaccine

00:04:57.600 doesn't actually really work. At least not the first two shots. But trust them, the third shot is

00:05:03.520 really great. After that disastrous confession, Quebec goes more extreme than they ever have before,

00:05:10.660 more punitive, more obsessed by vaccines that don't work, says the chief vaccine salesman himself.

00:05:17.780 How is this going to be implemented? Well, that's precisely the thing. The more their strategy fails,

00:05:23.680 the more they need to distract. I actually don't think it was the Pfizer announcement that Legault was

00:05:29.420 trying to bury. I think it was this one, the announcement about, on the street, the headline,

00:05:36.540 Quebec premier reveals replacement for top health official after sudden resignation. So the last guy quit

00:05:43.100 in disgrace. But look at the new guy, Dr. Luc Boileau. I don't know anything about him other than his

00:05:48.880 daughter is a personal assistant to Legault's health minister, Christian Dubé. The fact that for some

00:05:54.480 reason, the CBC state broadcaster doesn't mention in this story, so the daughter of the new health boss is

00:06:00.380 literally part of the government's propaganda arm. You can be sure that Dr. Boileau will do exactly what he's told,

00:06:06.600 including this shockingly unethical view for a doctor that sick people ought not to get health

00:06:12.680 care in Quebec unless they're vaccinated or pay an unvaccinated tax. How is that part of the

00:06:18.280 Hippocratic oath? Do no harm. Are there going to be vaccine refugees from Quebec who can't get treated 1.00

00:06:24.380 there, who have to go to Ontario or to the States? You're literally telling people they may not have

00:06:30.440 treatment in your hospitals and from your doctors. You will turn them away, presumably. We don't see

00:06:37.300 the rules yet. If they don't pay a submission tax. As in, you can't convince them. You can't bribe them.

00:06:43.840 So you'll find them. You'll get a contribution from them. And presumably, if they don't pay that tax,

00:06:49.180 they won't get access to the system. That's the implication. Though it's clear this hasn't been

00:06:53.720 thought through any more than anything else in these lockdowns. It's just a desperation move. Now,

00:06:58.420 you already know that the unvaccinated are disproportionately minorities, especially black

00:07:04.460 people and immigrants. And that's just a fact for whatever reason. So you're either punishing them 1.00

00:07:10.180 with this new sin tax, as if choosing not to take an experimental injection is a sin. Or you're punishing

00:07:17.820 them with no access to health care. Again, we haven't seen the rules. I don't know what they're actually

00:07:21.320 going to do. Legault said he wanted it to be a significant tax. He says he thinks $100

00:07:28.240 isn't enough. There are some people that spend $100 on a fancy lunch. And then there are some people

00:07:35.880 who spend $100 to feed their entire family for a week. Rich or poor, who do you think this tax will

00:07:44.280 hurt? And again, hurting them is the point. It's about humiliation and punishment now, not about

00:07:50.060 convincing. I think Legault was watching Francis Emmanuel Macron when he said he wanted to, quote,

00:07:55.340 shit on the unvaccinated. And Merde. So Quebec announced this today. Do you doubt that dumb

00:08:02.540 Doug Ford will follow with something like this tomorrow? I bet New Brunswick will go next.

00:08:07.620 So if we continually have outbreaks because of the 10% that refuse to be vaccinated, then we have to go 1.00

00:08:14.000 to the next level. So I would say accommodation is, you know, you look at flu shots. There's a lot of

00:08:18.980 things that we do as routine. This needs to be routine. But we have to decide first and know that

00:08:25.780 would that 10% be jeopardizing our health system? And right today, I think because we haven't

00:08:30.720 stabilized with this COVID virus, we don't know that. But that is a key factor on how hard you need to go.

00:08:38.340 Yeah, he's a conservative. It's so odd. In some ways, I see things getting better, largely because

00:08:43.040 Joe Biden, the Democrat is in big trouble. So the public health deep state and the media party,

00:08:49.320 they're doing what they need to do to pivot, as they say. Here's Jake Tapper on CNN, just furious to

00:08:55.220 learn that public health statistics about COVID deaths have been inflated. He's just discovered this

00:09:01.060 now and he's mad. But if 40% in some hospitals, 40% of the people who have COVID don't necessarily

00:09:08.840 have problematic COVID. They're there because they got in a car accident. They're there because

00:09:13.120 they bumped their head. And they're being included as in the hospital with COVID. That number seems

00:09:21.480 kind of misleading. Yeah. Here's the head of the CDC. I've been talking about that for this for nearly

00:09:30.020 two years. Take a listen. The overwhelming number of deaths over 75% occurred in people who had at least

00:09:37.080 four comorbidities. So really, these are people who were unwell to begin with. They all wanted the

00:09:43.360 maximum number of sick and dying to dislodge Donald Trump. Now they want the minimum number of sick and

00:09:50.400 dying to prop up Biden. They're all talking about living with COVID now. Not all of them, but the

00:09:56.640 politically nimble ones. But here in Canada, it's the harshest it's ever been. Curfews again in Quebec,

00:10:03.400 for heaven's sakes. And the civil liberties people hiding as usual. Okay. How about the media speaking

00:10:09.700 truth to power, skeptical of punishing the sick and the poor, worried about the idea of breaking the

00:10:16.300 universality of healthcare? Why they couldn't be happier. Here's CTV in Montreal, literally laughing

00:10:24.460 at the prospect of people being punished. Oh, LOL. Laugh out loud. That's a respectable news reporter,

00:10:33.940 people. He's not one of those rebels. He deleted that tweet after Marie Oakes retweeted it. Why?

00:10:40.120 Is he in Paris piety? Is he trying to pretend he's neutral and fair? He let the mask slip for a minute?

00:10:45.640 Here's a senior Trudeau liberal, Bruce Anderson. It was only a matter of time. It's rational to say you

00:10:50.840 can't just ignore urgent health guidance and use up all the public health resources in the crisis.

00:10:56.060 It's rational to put in barriers and penalties for those who won't comply with rules to protect lives

00:11:00.540 and livelihoods. Yeah, but that's just not true, Bruce. Most people with the virus are actually

00:11:05.300 vaccinated. Most people in the hospital are vaccinated. Stop lying, please. Here's a former

00:11:12.020 new Democrat candidate cheering on attacks for the poor, cheering on the end of universal Medicare.

00:11:18.100 That's a bit weird. Michael Byers says, a health tax for unvaccinated adults? Yes, please. 0.99

00:11:25.060 Here's a left-wing bailout reporter named Max Fawcett. He says, good. Every other province

00:11:31.260 should follow in the ghost footsteps here. Here's the Toronto Star, which stands up for the little

00:11:36.600 people. That and I don't mind as much. Greece did this more or less. Here's McLean's another bailout

00:11:44.160 media company. Stephen Marr says, not sure how difficult it will be to implement if bureaucratic

00:11:49.820 hurdles, legal challenges, and political blowback will make it impossible. Best thing would be if it

00:11:55.720 becomes irrelevant after Omicron ebbs. So not a word against any of this from conservative

00:12:02.080 political opponents, political leaders that I've seen so far. Have you? You seen Aaron O'Toole weigh in

00:12:07.700 on this? That's a joke. It's punitive. It's punishing the unvaccinated, even though the vaccines 1.00

00:12:14.140 don't really work, even according to the vaccine maker. Fired, unvaccinated people are being 0.95

00:12:21.060 desperately called back to work in some hospitals. They've fired too many of them. It's a total mess.

00:12:26.060 Total failure by every politician. So of course, ratchet up the blame and the punishment.

00:12:30.960 That's why this will ramp up, even though the narrative is crumbling. It's because the narrative

00:12:36.900 is crumbling that they must ratchet it up so that their shouts and screams hide their own failures.

00:12:45.300 This is a health expert that CTP had on to harangue the unvaccinated for not being healthy like him.

00:12:53.640 Now that's a sense of humor. But really, as the CDC boss said, 75% of the people who died

00:12:59.340 actually died from four or more underlying problems, being super fat, the main one. So

00:13:05.640 maybe that fat guy there should pay more himself? Should people who smoke or smoke pot or drink or

00:13:13.880 drive fast cars or go downhill skiing or whatever, whatever risk, maybe they should all be punished

00:13:19.540 too? I don't think the leftists would ever accept that. That totally goes against universality of

00:13:25.520 health care. They actually are loving taxes on people they consider low class. That's what it is.

00:13:34.240 It's not low economic class. Their aesthetics, their taste, the sins of the ruling class are always high

00:13:39.780 class. They're against beer, but they love champagne. They hate dirty little cigarettes, but cigars are

00:13:46.660 fancy. They'll mock people who go to McDonald's, but they love cheesecake. Did you take my meaning?

00:13:53.380 The ruling class are hypocrites. It's more than hypocrisy. It's hierarchy. They don't have to 0.99

00:13:59.140 follow the rules for themselves. They just want a scapegoat to blame for anything. Mark my words,

00:14:05.300 this will spread across Canada. Taxes and fines and what? Maybe soon jail? Stay with us for more.

00:14:13.820 The vaccine is the key to fight the virus. This is why we're looking for a health contribution for

00:14:30.820 adults who refuse to be vaccinated for non-medical reasons. Those who refuse to receive their first

00:14:39.060 dose in the coming weeks will have to pay a new health contribution. I know the situation is tough,

00:14:48.580 but the vaccine is the key to fight the virus. This is why we're looking...

00:14:57.060 Well, there you have it. Quebec Premier Francois Legault is saying he will ask, not ask, compel

00:15:03.260 people who for whatever personal or medical reasons, he claims he'll accept medical exemptions,

00:15:09.460 but we know they have dismissed most medical exemptions and suspended doctors who have given

00:15:15.360 medical exemptions. But they claim that without one caveat, they will start to levy a contribution

00:15:25.940 from people who are unvaccinated. And in CTV's story on the subject, which is breaking just as we record

00:15:32.520 this, the Premier said $50 to $100 is not enough in his mind. Well, joining us to talk about this

00:15:41.260 new tax, I guess you would call it, is the person who knows a lot about taxes, our friend Franco

00:15:48.180 Teresano, the Federal Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. Franco, great to see you.

00:15:53.680 He's calling it a contribution, but politicians always use words other than tax. They use levy,

00:15:59.660 they sometimes use contribution. It's really a tax on the unvaccinated, isn't it? 0.65

00:16:07.340 Yeah, that's correct. We heard the Premier say contribution, but make no mistake about it,

00:16:12.200 this would be a tax. And no, the Canadian Taxpayers Federation does not support a new tax on

00:16:19.240 Canadians. And Ezra, you know, there is a lot of uncertainty going around right now,

00:16:23.740 but here's what we do know. We're not going to tax our way out of a pandemic.

00:16:27.060 Yeah. Isn't that the truth? It's sort of funny because we've seen governments try everything.

00:16:32.140 We've seen them pay cash to people who will get the jab. We've seen in some jurisdictions,

00:16:39.140 lotteries, you can win a huge prizes. We've seen Krispy Kreme give free donuts. I'm not sure if that's

00:16:46.240 a public health matter, but I guess they've moved from the carrot to the stick. I mean, I'm just trying

00:16:51.820 to think how this works. I mean, you get your tax form and you fill out questions. I don't know how

00:16:59.560 they would cross reference that with your health records. I mean, most people pay taxes, I think,

00:17:06.760 once a year. And when would you be forced to pay this and how and who's going to be the tax collector?

00:17:14.300 I mean, I remember when the GST was brought in. That's how old I am, Franco. I don't know if you

00:17:19.160 were even born back then, but just the administrative hassle of how do you do it and how do you get every

00:17:25.920 tax accountant to do it right? And like, it was such an enormous undertaking. I don't even know how

00:17:33.620 you would go about collecting and checking and how would this tax even work? I don't know. I don't

00:17:39.060 think they have that figured out yet. Well, there's a lot of questions, but I have a big

00:17:44.420 question. It's why whenever there's this problem that politicians are looking to solve, their answer

00:17:50.700 is always to hit taxpayers with higher taxes or new taxes, right? We've been in this pandemic for

00:17:57.860 nearly two years now. And is this really the best solution that they can come up with is to hit

00:18:03.820 Canadians with a new tax? Really? Is that the best that they can do?

00:18:07.080 Hmm. That's a great point. You know, there's another point. And, you know, for a long time,

00:18:12.440 if you asked Canadians, what makes Canada, Canada? It's hard to believe now, but there was a point

00:18:20.620 in time when a lot of people would have said Medicare. That's what makes us different. And

00:18:24.480 there was this whole mythology around how we're so much better and so different than Americans. And

00:18:30.560 no matter what your circumstances are, you'll be covered in Canada. We heard horror stories of

00:18:36.640 Americans who were bankrupted because they didn't have health insurance. And so the idea of

00:18:41.800 universality was such a liberal, you know, core tenet of belief and that everyone's covered no

00:18:49.400 matter what. This seems to be, you know, yet another admission that that's not really real.

00:18:56.480 If you're going to charge people extra taxes based on and say you're not going to have access

00:19:02.540 to health care without him, I don't think you can actually call yourself a universal health care

00:19:06.860 system. And they're trying to control this behavior with taxes. Well, what's to stop them

00:19:12.720 from controlling other behaviors with taxes? And maybe they should. But, you know, and that's the

00:19:18.540 thing. If you're going to tax a fit young person who has made the decision that the risk of the virus

00:19:26.020 is actually lower than the risk of the vaccine, are you going to tax someone who's fat? And I ask

00:19:32.020 with some personal interest in that. Are you going to tax someone who drinks? Are you going to

00:19:36.040 tax someone who, you know, rides without a bike helmet? Are you going to tax someone who goes

00:19:40.320 ice climbing or rock climbing? I mean, if you are, fine, but don't pretend that you're some

00:19:48.000 universal health care system anymore. Well, I think that we definitely needed to have a very

00:19:54.820 frank conversation about reforming the health care system even before the pandemic. But of course,

00:20:00.280 COVID-19 has really put the spotlight on some of the issues with our health care system. I mean,

00:20:04.780 for starters, taxpayers in Canada pay an arm and a leg for health care, but we don't get the best

00:20:11.160 services for all the money that we're spending. So certainly I think the Canadian Taxpayers Federation

00:20:16.120 is open to talking about new solutions in the health care system, right? Letting businesses,

00:20:21.680 letting entrepreneurs play a bigger role in delivering health care services to relieve some

00:20:25.860 of the burdens on the government health care system. But here's the thing. I mean, the last thing that

00:20:32.180 Canadians need are new taxes, right? Many Canadians are struggling through the pandemic. So many people

00:20:38.300 lost their job, took a pay cut. Many small businesses are seeing their revenue evaporate before the very

00:20:43.900 eyes. And the last thing that we need in Canada is a new tax. And make no mistake about it, that's a new

00:20:49.460 tax. You're exactly right. And listen, I wasn't suggesting that we necessarily should start taxing

00:20:54.980 all these other behaviors. I'm just pointing out that once upon a time, the left said, don't you worry,

00:21:00.040 you're covered, rich or poor, black or white, we're all in this together. Now it's clear that we're not.

00:21:04.500 I want to make one last point. And again, it's the left. They use the phrase progressive taxes or

00:21:11.420 regress of taxes. And here's what I mean. If you're a millionaire, what does 50 or 100 bucks

00:21:17.640 mean to you? Not a lot. If you're a working class person, if you're unemployed, 50 or 100 bucks is a

00:21:22.800 lot. And by the way, we happen to know some demographics about the people who are unvaccinated.

00:21:28.000 And for whatever reason, people who are black or other minority groups have a much lower vaccination

00:21:34.280 rate than white people do. And I'm just telling you what the data says. So if you're going to charge

00:21:40.900 50 or 100 bucks, that's one of the things Legault was banding about. He said that's not significant

00:21:45.360 enough. And it's going to fall harder on young people, unemployed people, minorities, new immigrants.

00:21:52.440 That's something that the left would call a regressive tax, yet they're proudly imposing it on their own

00:21:58.840 people. I'm with you. No new taxes. But of all the taxes to choose, to tax a minority, a poor person, 1.00

00:22:06.940 a fixed sum, that's regressive. Well, I think it would definitely hurt, right? And the last thing

00:22:14.160 we need right now is a new tax in Canada. But Ezra, I mean, we're chatting a little bit about this

00:22:18.900 offline, and I think it ties into what we're talking about right now. Look, you have these politicians that

00:22:23.880 they say that there's these problems, and their so-called solutions is always to put in a new tax

00:22:29.920 or raise taxes, right? Just look at home prices right now, right? Yes, we do have a problem where

00:22:36.100 there are sky-high home prices in Canada. And now we learn that the federal government is using our tax

00:22:41.740 dollars to dream up new ways to hammer Canadian homeowners. We actually just saw a report funded by

00:22:47.860 the CMHC, and their solution, get this, their solution to rising home prices is to hammer Canadian

00:22:54.800 homeowners with a new tax, right? That is outrageous. But Ezra, one of the big debates on GHG

00:23:02.100 emissions, well, these politicians' so-called solution to the environment is the carbon tax. But

00:23:08.580 Ezra, we have seen for years, even in BC, where they had the highest carbon tax in Canada, the carbon

00:23:14.280 tax did work. Emissions continued to go up and up and up. You know what? They're coming at us about

00:23:20.080 five different ways. Franco, you guys are one of the few advocates for taxpayers. Your website's

00:23:25.980 taxpayer.com. It's a great website. And the reason we love talking with you is you are one of the few

00:23:31.480 groups in Canada that is not funded by the government. So you can be independent. You're

00:23:36.440 non-partisan, and you hold everyone to account. We're grateful to be friends with you. And I know this

00:23:42.020 just broke minutes before we had you on the show. But I think your point is a solid one. You're not

00:23:48.000 going to tax your way out of a pandemic. This is absolutely a tax. And I think, I hope that you

00:23:53.060 guys at the Taxpayers Federation take this and run with it, because someone's got to. And I think it

00:23:57.600 really, it's going to fall to you, because I think the rest of the media party and the political media

00:24:02.520 establishment is going to love it. But I wish you good luck, my friend. Well, Ezra, thanks so much for

00:24:07.680 having me on today. Well, it's our pleasure. There you have it, Franco Teresano from taxpayer.com.

00:24:12.460 Stay with us. More ahead.

00:24:21.860 Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me. Carrie says, Avi is correct. Australians are mad at the 1.00

00:24:28.140 government, not Novak. The disgusting discrimination and political posturing is something we are all over.

00:24:34.360 Well, it's funny. I want to show you, you know what? There's a rule in the TV biz or radio biz.

00:24:41.520 Always assume the cameras are running. Always assume the microphone's on. I want to play for you

00:24:46.620 a TV station in Australia. There's going to be some foul language here. Look how they're talking

00:24:52.580 about Novak Djokovic. You just got to watch. This is incredible. Take a look.

00:25:00.320 Whatever way you look at it, Novak Djokovic is a lying, sneaky.

00:25:04.740 Yes. He's an a**hole. He's an a**hole.

00:25:08.400 Like, whatever way you look at it, it's unfortunate that everybody else stuffed up around him.

00:25:14.080 That's it. I mean, a**hole. Like, to go out when you know you're COVID-positive. Well,

00:25:19.940 I don't think he was even COVID-positive. I don't think that form is a**hole.

00:25:22.820 He got a bull******hole. He just in there fell over his own f***ing eyes, which is what happens,

00:25:28.580 right? Yeah. That's what's happened. And then him now then ticking, he didn't go to Spain.

00:25:33.360 Yeah. It's just like... Yeah. Yeah. But I think he's going to get away with it.

00:25:39.720 Well, he is going to get away with it. Yeah. I just... But he's... I think most fair-minded

00:25:45.220 people would say, look, the blokes are an a**hole. Did they do the right thing by him? I don't

00:25:51.560 know. No, I don't... I don't think so. That's the problem, isn't it? I don't think... I don't

00:25:58.800 think anything was gained by putting him in... No. In immigration. No, I don't think 0.80

00:26:04.900 so. But the trouble is, how do you justify that person's on the same plane with him who

00:26:09.340 also has... You can't justify it. But the fact is, life is never fair. Yeah. Some people

00:26:15.600 fly first class and some people... Yeah. Do you know what? Like, it's never fair. But

00:26:19.980 that poor Czech girl that was f***ing sent home, hunted down and sent home. But you know

00:26:25.260 what? Yeah. He's arrogant. He's a troublemaker. He followed the rules they told him to follow.

00:26:30.540 They approved him. And by the way, he actually is immune. He's not faking it. He got sick

00:26:35.440 and now he's better. That's just incredible. Sean DeLapp says, those who preach tolerance

00:26:41.180 are usually the most intolerant people on the planet. Tolerance to them means agreeing with

00:26:45.320 all their ideas, no matter how wacky. Say anything different to them, and they will set out to ruin

00:26:50.040 your life and getting you sacked from your job. These people are seriously lacking in the self-awareness

00:26:54.940 department that they don't realize everything they claim. They're everything they claim to hate.

00:26:59.320 I think that is exactly true. And I think this whole anti-bullying thing... And all the people

00:27:04.620 who remember once a year, there's this Bell Let's Talk mental health moment where Bell Media just

00:27:11.300 pretends to care about mental health for a couple of days. And they get all these people to... Those same

00:27:17.340 people are the locker-downers who've caused more mental health and depression and drug addiction

00:27:22.900 through this lockdown than anything else in history. Hey, no bullying, though. Hey, mental

00:27:28.200 health, though, right? I don't buy it. Chuck Andrews says, New Brunswick got rid of that troublemaker

00:27:34.320 Gabriel Girard, who dared to keep the death rates at zero with that Trumpish hydroxychloroquine.

00:27:42.800 Well, I don't know the story of Mr. Girard or Dr. Girard. I don't know who he is. But that's the thing,

00:27:47.680 is in Canada, if you get sick, they don't really treat you. They just say, stay home. They don't

00:27:53.660 prescribe you azithromycin or hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin. They just sort of be sick until you're

00:28:01.020 so sick you have to go to the hospital and maybe they put you on a ventilator, God forbid. So we're

00:28:06.880 not actually treating the virus. That's weird. The only thing they're obsessed by is a vaccine that

00:28:12.620 doesn't really work. Why don't they talk about other solutions? That's odd to me, isn't it?

00:28:19.300 Anyways, that's our show for the day. I'm going to say goodbye to you now. Until next time, on behalf

00:28:23.680 of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night and keep fighting for freedom. And I want to

00:28:27.700 end with a video of the day from Drea talking to former Conservative MP Kenny Chu, who's speaking about

00:28:35.020 securing Canadian election integrity, especially from Communist China. Take a look at this video. We'll see you tomorrow. 0.97

00:28:40.260 Throughout the years, the Canadian Security Intelligence Services ceases and other national

00:28:48.320 security apparatus have actually warned the government of Canada, Canadian, that Canada

00:28:53.540 is subject to foreign interference, be that from People's Republic of China, but also Russia

00:28:59.700 and Iran, etc., foreign powers. And that is why this act, not specifying, not specifically aiming

00:29:09.480 against a certain country. It's, in my perspective, from my point of view, it's so much needed. Because

00:29:16.480 we need that to bring it down from under the table to above the table. As somebody infamous said,

00:29:24.340 you know, sunlight is the best disinfectant of things. Transparency will help media such as yourself

00:29:30.340 to hold government to account, to hold people to account, officials to account. That is why

00:29:36.480 I want to introduce this, even though according to the House of Commons rules, there's very little

00:29:42.680 chance that this will see the night of day in the House of Commons because of the ranking.

00:29:49.160 Just how vulnerable are Canada's federal elections to risks like foreign interference from powers like

00:29:54.700 the Chinese Communist Party and voter fraud? This report is one of more to come discussing just that.

00:30:01.540 Andrea Humphrey here with Rebel News. And the next election will occur no later than October of 2025.

00:30:11.220 But considering the federal liberals were so thirsty to try yet fail at gaining a majority government

00:30:17.580 last year, they were willing to call our most expensive election during a proclaimed pandemic.

00:30:23.900 It would not surprise me one bit to see another snap election called much sooner than in three

00:30:30.500 years. But all speculation aside, one thing is for certain. Whenever our next federal election

00:30:38.120 ends up happening, we the people deserve to have valid results. The democratic process that surrounds

00:30:45.680 our elections is a staple for our democracy. Without it being completely in check, how can we truly know

00:30:53.720 if the public officials who get their seats are sitting there because they were democratically

00:31:00.400 elected by Canadians? Now, recently, I've looked into two concerns surrounding the integrity of our

00:31:08.560 federal elections. In one example, I interviewed a man in BC named Robert Paddock, who is one of at least

00:31:16.280 a group of people who, despite not being Canadian citizens, received a voting card addressed to them

00:31:23.260 during the last election.

00:31:25.860 Yeah, it actually says straight on here, you have to be a Canadian citizen. But the problem is that

00:31:31.180 there's a couple problems with that, actually. Now, for being a permanent, like, it actually says you

00:31:36.880 have to come in with a photo ID to actually vote, because you ought to be familiar with the fact that

00:31:41.460 there are two lists. One is a bunch of people were on some kind of list to receive these in the

00:31:46.120 first place. This is not actual registration for voting. This is just to say, hey, you're in the sort of

00:31:51.700 system that you can be aware of the fact that you can now go and register officially. But it's a

00:31:56.520 stepping stone towards voting. And it's also a stepping stone to maybe potentially abusing that

00:32:02.440 vote. Now, I'll do a separate report going over how that can be a mistake sometimes. But what you

00:32:09.300 should know right now in this report is that when I try to get a specific answer to how prevalent a

00:32:16.000 problem non-Canadian citizens actually voting in our last two federal elections turned out to be,

00:32:22.900 I was told by the Office of Commissioner of Canada Elections that they are not at liberty to disclose

00:32:30.060 such information. But as always, this is Rebel News. We don't back down from investigative journalism,

00:32:36.360 so I'll be digging deeper into that because Canadians deserve to know the answer to that question.

00:32:43.000 But since we don't receive millions of dollars from the federal government's media bailout,

00:32:48.860 I'm going to have to ask you guys to help me do so. If you enjoy and appreciate our independent

00:32:55.520 journalism, please help us with our investigative reports. There's various costs that are attached

00:33:01.260 to that. So you can open up another tab on your device and head to rebelinvestigates.com to donate

00:33:08.900 what you can there. And of course, we appreciate and need your support. Now, in today's report,

00:33:15.540 you're going to hear about another concern surrounding our elections. I sat down to interview

00:33:20.160 a former conservative MP of the Steveson Richmond East riding in BC, Kenny Chu. Chu lost his seat to

00:33:27.820 the now liberal MP Parm Baines by a margin of less than 10% in the last election. And after that,

00:33:34.240 he publicly raised concerns about what he believes to have been a targeted misinformation campaign

00:33:41.340 against him, likely fueled by foreign influences in China. Take a listen to the latest on that

00:33:48.500 situation from Chu himself. So I introduced a private member's bill. It's called Bill C-282.

00:33:57.600 And Bill C-282 is termed Foreign Influence Registry Act. And the whole point is to bring transparency

00:34:06.700 to foreign influence in Canada. And it's modeled after the Australians. What basically it's we are

00:34:17.360 demanding that go between the foreign government and our government officials, be it senators or MPs,

00:34:25.320 if they are lobbying on behalf of a foreign entity, that they register and make that public to

00:34:32.300 Canadians through media such as yours, so that Canadians can actually judge it with their own

00:34:38.360 eyes. It's just a transparency act. It should have been called the Foreign Influence Transparency Act.

00:34:44.920 But, you know, it's been labeled as anti-Chinese and anti-China.

00:34:51.660 Right. I saw a statement of that. I believe it was on WeChat, an article or something went up and it

00:34:58.220 indicated that you yourself were anti-Chinese because of the bill. Help me make some sense of

00:35:06.020 that. I believe you're from Hong Kong, aren't you? Well, I'm from Hong Kong. I was born in Hong Kong. But

00:35:12.280 I came to Canada at the age of 17, 18. But prior to that, I've been immersed in Chinese literature.

00:35:20.760 My education is in mother tongue Cantonese, Chinese history and all that. So I know a thing or two about

00:35:28.440 the country China, even though I was born in Hong Kong. The bill itself, the irony is that to avoid

00:35:36.840 political attack like that, we've deliberately avoid naming countries in the bill itself. We want to

00:35:45.000 leave it to the experts and the bureaucrats, such as those in CISIS or NCCOP, for them to actually

00:35:54.520 help us fill out which countries this registry act should pass would be applicable to. And so the bill,

00:36:03.080 if you look at it, it did not mention any country by name at all. So for, you know, some people to be

00:36:09.960 misled, to think that it's targeting certain individuals, let alone anti-Chinese, it's too rich.

00:36:19.320 Well, I think when we talk about the dangers of foreign interference with elections, Beijing does come 1.00

00:36:26.360 to mind as well as Russia. So what would you say in particular about the people who did read this

00:36:33.560 article or multiple articles? What was it about them that maybe made them conclude that it was anti-Chinese?

00:36:42.440 Well, it's not us, it's not anybody who indicated the foreign influence. In fact, throughout the years,

00:36:50.760 the Canadian Security Intelligence Services ceases and other national security apparatus have actually

00:36:59.400 warned the government of Canada, Canadian, that Canada is subject to foreign interference, be that from

00:37:05.720 People's Republic of China, but also Russia and Iran, etc., foreign powers. And that is why this act,

00:37:15.400 not specifying, not specifically aiming against certain country, it's, in my perspective, from my

00:37:23.080 point of view, it's so much needed. Because we need that to bring it down from under the table to above

00:37:29.720 the table. As somebody's infamous said, you know, sunlight is the best disinfectant of things.

00:37:36.840 Transparency will help media such as yourself to hold government to account, to hold people to account,

00:37:42.600 officials to account. That is why I want to introduce this. Even though, according to the

00:37:49.240 House of Commons rules, there's very little chance that this will see the night of day in the House

00:37:56.120 of Commons because of the ranking. I still want to do that because it is something that we need to

00:38:02.120 bring up for discussion.

00:38:03.240 So when did things start to seem as though they were going awry in your campaign? Did you notice

00:38:09.560 before the actual results of the election that something was fishy? Tell us about when the signs

00:38:16.120 first started to arise.

00:38:17.880 Well, I would argue this even way before the elections, at the beginning of my term as

00:38:23.320 a member of parliament, I went to Hong Kong to participate in an independent elections observation

00:38:32.200 mission in 2019, a few days after I was born in as the member of parliament. Because throughout 2019,

00:38:41.720 I believe we discussed that earlier before, Hong Kong has actually undergone severe struggles.

00:38:50.520 There's a lot of instability. The way I see it is, the Hong Kong government is trying to resolve

00:38:56.680 a political problem using a brute force police solution, which is wrong. And the district council

00:39:04.280 election would present the Hong Kong people a political way of solving the political problem. And

00:39:10.360 surely they did. And with 300,000 Canadian passport holders living in Hong Kong, it's important

00:39:17.880 that Hong Kong gets back to the normal as soon as possible. That's why I decided to jump in. And

00:39:23.800 that's when it actually first started. I was being portrayed as an activist. I was being portrayed as

00:39:31.240 anti-China. And then, of course, the pandemic came. The Canadian government never listened to

00:39:39.560 parliament's demand, for example. We wanted to shut down border way back in late January, early February.

00:39:49.000 Flights from China, Wuhan, for example. Back when it was considered racist to do so. Exactly, exactly. The

00:39:55.880 irony is that we heard those complaints, guess what, from people from China. They were calling our office,

00:40:05.160 WeChatting our office, asking us, why are we not shutting down flights with Wuhan, China? These are

00:40:11.560 Chinese nationals. And so, you know, the Liberal government never did anything. And they were 1.00

00:40:17.480 delayed until pretty much the WHO admitted that, yes, it's a pandemic. By then, it's already spread

00:40:23.480 around the world. So 2020, it was a very tough year. But 2021, if people recall, in February,

00:40:33.720 the Parliament of Canada had actually passed a motion. Those who actually voted had all voted

00:40:42.040 unanimously in support. It's the Uyghur Muslim treatment in Xinjiang fulfilling the definition 1.00

00:40:48.280 in the UN of genocide. And that was actually passed, like I said, multiple parties, Liberals included,

00:40:55.960 NDP and all that. But for that, the committee that I was sitting on, International Human Rights

00:41:03.320 Committee subcommittee, I was the vice chair, they got sanctioned together with the Conservative MP,

00:41:09.960 Michael Chong. It's kind of weird because everywhere else, the US, whatever, they always sanctioned the

00:41:17.080 government people, the people who were responsible, people with power. Never, very seldom that you,

00:41:23.400 you sanction an opposition MP and a subcommittee in the Parliament for that matter. But that provided the

00:41:30.200 foundation of the foundation of attack for many of my detractors. They start accusing me of being

00:41:35.720 sanctioned by China. They start accusing me of anti-China, not just anti-Chinese. All the subsequent

00:41:42.360 anti-Asian racism, because I wasn't invited or provided the opportunity to show my support for my Asian-Canadian

00:41:52.520 constituents, I was being labeled as supportive of the anti-Asian racism. And even though

00:42:00.200 I spoke very prominently in the English Richmond News, called Richmond News, even that there were

00:42:09.160 people accusing me on-air Chinese radio stations that I've solemnly heard, never showed up on Richmond

00:42:17.000 News and all that. So it's filled with disinformation and complete false accusation. Bill C-282 added

00:42:27.400 towards those campaign. And it culminated and climaxed during the election, basically.

00:42:34.520 Do you think if those rumors had not taken place, you would have been re-elected?

00:42:39.480 Well, the election winning and losing, it's very complex and complicated matters.

00:42:44.440 There are definitely lessons that I've learned, how I could possibly articulate my view and our

00:42:51.400 party's platform better to Canadians, Chinese or not, in Chiefs and Richmond News. How we could actually get

00:42:58.280 our people out, our supporters out to vote. There are many, many issues. But in an election that is

00:43:07.160 impacted by COVID pandemic, an election that suffered very low voter turnout rate, in a highly polarized

00:43:16.840 election such as this. Having a few hundred votes away from one side to the other, it's actually

00:43:24.280 sufficient in changing the result of that. My colleague, Alice Wong, for example, in Richmond Centre

00:43:32.760 was, had lost, you know, thousands of votes compared to 2019. And she lost by 300 votes,

00:43:39.720 just like that. And this is not unique to the Richmans, but also throughout Canada. Somebody did an

00:43:48.440 analysis comparing, listing out the highest Chinese voter demographic writings, and then comparing with

00:43:59.720 the regional and also provincial conservative support. And they realized that there is a correlation,

00:44:06.120 actually a reverse correlation with the regional and the provincial trend, meaning that the Chinese

00:44:14.840 Canadians are subject to some kind of special campaign. Wow. Now, you were one of the first to come forward

00:44:22.120 with this shortly after the election, with this concern. But now my understanding is that there's 13 different

00:44:28.760 ridings that are in question. What can you tell us about those locations and ridings?

00:44:33.480 I read that on media report as well. I believe it was a ceases talking to conservative colleagues.

00:44:42.040 I believe these are all mostly urban ridings. The greater Vancouver areas, also in greater Toronto

00:44:50.280 areas. For example, the highest concentration of Chinese Canadian or Canadian of Chinese descent is,

00:44:58.040 if I'm not mistaken, Markham Unionview in Toronto, Richmond Centre in BC, and Seafs and Richmond East.

00:45:06.040 And these three were held by conservative members and now lost, all three of them. And in addition,

00:45:13.320 there's also other ridings such as Coquitlam, then also in Calgary. If I'm not mistaken, even a stronghold like

00:45:27.560 Michelle Rample, she actually had lost a significant number of votes as well. 0.97

00:45:32.680 Hers is also considered an urban Calgary riding. So how do you relate? How do you find out the

00:45:40.680 reason? That's that takes a lot of effort. But the fact that all these ridings, like I said,

00:45:46.440 if you line them up by the Canadian of Chinese descent ranking, then then you will see a pattern.

00:45:53.560 And have you been kept in the loop about what's happening with the investigation from our national

00:45:59.320 security? And if so, what can you tell us about that? Well, actually, they've contacted me even prior

00:46:07.080 to the election was called. We sat down and they explicitly asked me not to disclose what we've

00:46:13.320 talked about. But you know, needless to say, national security, foreign interference is a subject they're

00:46:23.240 very concerned. And in fact, so much so that after I start getting feedback on some of the screenshots

00:46:31.080 that are circulated, reading some of the articles that are available on WeChat, and hearing some of the

00:46:38.920 commentators, their comments on air, this CRTC regulated radio station in Canada, I became so

00:46:49.400 concerned that I've actually called them up. And they came to my campaign office. And we had another

00:46:58.440 long chat about what happened. And I provided them the information. I asked them about, you know,

00:47:04.440 follow up, but they refused, they are not going to disclose, you know, if or not, they are investigating

00:47:10.760 further. But, you know, surely enough, they are, they are so concerned that they wanted to receive all

00:47:17.080 these screenshots that I provided them. The other thing is, remember, we, we were talking about a year

00:47:23.800 ago, during the summer 2020, at a protest, supporting the two Michaels, and also the returning of their

00:47:32.760 them safely. I was very clear that in my speech, and also my presence, that I'm not an activist.

00:47:41.320 I've been a member of parliament, and my role is to show the support. I said in the meeting there,

00:47:48.600 while Meng Wanzhou is wrapping dumplings, a few kilometers away from where the protest was held,

00:47:57.080 the two Michaels were incarcerated in places that we don't know where. And they were, their personal

00:48:04.360 freedom was significantly hampered. And one cannot even provide them with reading material or reading

00:48:12.360 glasses, for that matter. For that, subsequent to the report, and especially during the election,

00:48:19.640 I was attacked. I was attacked for taking a political stand, siding myself with the Hong Kong

00:48:24.920 activists, and that I, I'm anti-China. So all these are, are basically half-truths, and sometimes

00:48:33.320 completely falsehood, just to chop sweet together, to make a narrative work. And that is, I'm anti-China, 0.73

00:48:41.640 I'm anti-Chinese. Matter of fact is, I'm pro-Canada. 0.97

00:48:44.440 Well, we see that in lots of different examples. It's such a polarization. If you

00:48:49.960 support something, it automatically concludes that you're against something. A lot of people

00:48:54.280 had concerns about the organization Black Lives Matters, and if they voiced that, then they were

00:48:59.800 against black people, even if they were black. Exactly. It's a, it's a crazy world out there,

00:49:05.960 but there are, there are special interest people making use of these polarizations in their own

00:49:14.120 interests, for sure. Well, thank you so much for sitting. I think this is such an important

00:49:18.520 conversation. There were warnings of this before, and now we're seeing this. So hopefully something

00:49:23.640 gets done, and we'll be following this closely at Rebel News. Thank you so much.

00:49:27.720 Thank you. Thank you, Drea, and Merry Christmas to everybody. I, I look forward to hearing more from

00:49:34.360 media such as, such as yourself, in shading, in casting some more light into this, because this is

00:49:40.840 only the, the, the service under the ice. We, we know that there is also intimidation by Iranians, 0.99

00:49:48.760 by Russians, and also, of course, the, the PR, the PR China. And it's important that Chinese

00:49:56.200 or any other foreign power be kept at bay. And in the day and age, I think the government of Canada

00:50:02.920 need to start not only protecting our electoral integrity, but also Canadian safety, especially.

00:50:12.360 We have for a long time not been doing that. Absolutely agree. Thank you.

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