Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ No-one (except journalists) wants Canada to increase censorship of the Internet

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Very interesting. The government asked for comments on its censorship proposals.

00:00:06.820 Now, they did this during the summer when everyone was focused on other things.

00:00:09.740 But nonetheless, a number of groups did give their thoughts.

00:00:13.540 Internet technical groups, Internet lawyers, professors, and our friends at the Independent Press Gallery did too.

00:00:19.680 But the groups you would expect to speak of, the Canadian Association of Journalists, didn't have a word to say.

00:00:26.380 Anyway, they're not against censorship at all. I'll take you through it.

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00:00:58.980 Tonight, no one in Canada wants the government to increase censorship of the Internet.

00:01:05.040 No one except for journalists.

00:01:07.340 It's October 1st, and this is The Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:12.300 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:16.040 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:20.120 The only thing I have to say to the government, the wire publisher, is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:25.980 For two years, we've been warning you about Trudeau's plans to censor the Internet.

00:01:36.020 Give him credit for that, at least. He hasn't been hiding it.

00:01:39.840 Right after the 2019 election, he appointed Stephen Gilbeau, the convicted criminal, to be his heritage minister.

00:01:47.080 And he gave him what's called a mandate letter.

00:01:50.260 That's a job description for cabinet ministers, a to-do list.

00:01:54.000 The first point on his mandate letter was for Gilbeau to ramp up payments to the media.

00:02:01.200 They used a slightly more polite way of saying it, but really, that was job one, pay off friends.

00:02:08.760 And job two was censor enemies, brutally.

00:02:11.920 In fact, Trudeau said there had to be a vicious punishment for anyone who publishes offensive things online.

00:02:19.280 Fair enough. Trudeau's a bit of an expert about offensive and racist things.

00:02:23.660 For two years, Gilbeau, not the most competent of men, dilly-dallied.

00:02:28.020 And he was just absolutely awful. Remember this?

00:02:31.220 So how will this work? How are you going to regulate websites?

00:02:34.760 How are you going to register all that? Do you buy these recommendations?

00:02:37.940 Well, I mean, one of the recommendations, so you're talking about a couple of different things here,

00:02:45.700 but as far as the licensing is concerned, is if you're a distributor of content in Canada,

00:02:51.120 and obviously, you know, if you're a very small media organization,

00:02:55.940 the requirement probably wouldn't be the same as if you're Facebook or Google.

00:03:02.820 So there would have to be some proportionality embedded into this.

00:03:08.280 But we would ask that they have a license. Yes.

00:03:10.940 That was widely considered to be a disaster.

00:03:13.820 But really, other than embarrassing himself, he didn't really stop, did he?

00:03:18.560 First, he proposed something called Bill C-10, which would nationalize the Internet

00:03:23.320 in terms of regulation and jurisdiction.

00:03:26.160 It would let the Canadian government rule over YouTube and Facebook and Netflix and Amazon and Google,

00:03:32.400 just like it runs TV stations in Canada and radio stations,

00:03:36.500 determining who can live and who can die as a company,

00:03:39.200 and more importantly, who pays taxes, but who gets handouts, who gets licenses.

00:03:44.100 And then Bill C-36, which revives the hate speech provisions of the Canadian Human Rights Act,

00:03:51.280 which lets people be prosecuted for saying hurtful things, not criminal things, just mean things online.

00:03:58.500 Except they made it worse, of course.

00:04:00.700 Bill C-36 complaints are allowed to be made in secret.

00:04:06.820 You can have a secret vendetta against your enemy, and they'll never even know it was you.

00:04:11.340 They'll never know who accused them.

00:04:14.760 You'll have to pay them thousands of dollars.

00:04:17.240 Both of those proposals, C-10 and C-36, are awful.

00:04:20.640 But right after Parliament broke for the summer, Gilboa went further.

00:04:24.120 His department released hundreds of pages of proposed new legislation and regulation.

00:04:29.320 A third law, not C-10, not C-36, which died when Parliament was suspended,

00:04:34.880 but a third proposal, the biggest and worst ever.

00:04:37.820 And you can see why they dumped it during the summer, not when Parliament was around to scrutinize it.

00:04:44.100 It was crazy.

00:04:45.440 Well, that's not fair.

00:04:47.140 It was perfectly sane.

00:04:49.240 It was just evil, un-Canadian, censorious, undemocratic, illiberal. 1.00

00:04:52.980 That's not all. 0.97

00:04:53.700 It is inaccurate to call it crazy.

00:04:59.360 It's just not anything that any country in the free world would do.

00:05:04.120 First and foremost, it was about stopping people from criticizing the government,

00:05:09.140 from criticizing politicians like him.

00:05:11.100 We've seen too many examples of public officials retreating from public service due to the hateful

00:05:17.120 online content targeted towards themselves or even their families.

00:05:21.920 And the rules had shocking punishments, like literally the ability to delete entire websites

00:05:28.060 that offend him.

00:05:29.640 We envision having blocking orders.

00:05:32.200 I mean, that's that maybe it's not, you know, it's a it would be it would likely be a last

00:05:43.840 result, last result, nuclear bomb in a in a toolbox of of mechanism for for regulators.

00:05:52.300 Gilboa and Trudeau would create an Internet regulator with this power.

00:05:55.620 You know, it would be a crony, someone like Gerald Butts, someone petty and vindictive,

00:05:59.580 probably Gerald Butts himself.

00:06:01.300 You know, Trudeau wants this so badly, you know it because his handpicked regulator for

00:06:05.600 the debates commission banned rebel news twice, two elections in a row from the debates and

00:06:10.640 federal courts had to throw that out, two elections in a row.

00:06:13.760 But despite that, literally hours after the federal court told him he couldn't do that

00:06:17.320 this year, Trudeau at the debate still said, not just to us, but to the courts, that he

00:06:22.260 doesn't care what the court says.

00:06:23.860 He doesn't care what the Charter of Rights says.

00:06:25.780 He doesn't think we are journalists and he doesn't think we deserve the rights.

00:06:29.580 Or the respective journalists or frankly, for that matter of being citizen journalists

00:06:34.460 of daring to ask him questions.

00:06:36.360 Here's our Tamara Ugolini asking him about that.

00:06:39.180 And listen to what he says and put yourself in the mindset of the court that just ruled

00:06:43.840 we have the right to be journalists.

00:06:46.680 Look at this.

00:06:47.300 I have a question from Tamara Ugolini from Rebel News.

00:06:49.900 Mr. Trudeau, the only reason that I'm allowed to ask you this question is because today the

00:06:59.160 federal court ruled that the government doesn't have the right to determine who is or is not

00:07:03.700 a journalist.

00:07:04.980 This is the second election in a row that the court had to overturn your government.

00:07:10.060 Do you still insist on being able to make that decision and why?

00:07:13.740 First of all, questions around accreditation were handled by the Press Gallery and the Consortium

00:07:22.060 of Networks who have strong perspectives on quality journalism and the important information

00:07:29.200 that is shared with Canadians.

00:07:30.900 The reality is organizations like yours that continue to spread misinformation and disinformation

00:07:43.200 on the science around vaccines, around how we're going to actually get through this pandemic

00:07:50.700 and be there for each other and keep our kids safe is part of why we're seeing such unfortunate

00:07:58.360 anger and lack of understanding of basic science.

00:08:03.780 And quite frankly, your, I won't call it a media organization, your group of individuals need

00:08:12.040 to take accountability for some of the polarization that we're seeing in this country.

00:08:18.420 And I think Canadians are cluing into the fact that there is a really important decision we

00:08:25.280 take about the kind of country we want to see.

00:08:27.860 And I salute all extraordinary, hardworking journalists that put science and facts at the

00:08:34.380 heart of what they do and ask me tough questions every day, but make sure that they are educating

00:08:41.520 and informing Canadians from a broad range of perspectives, which is the last thing.

00:08:46.680 A lot of people cheered Trudeau's answer.

00:08:49.840 He put us in our place.

00:08:51.780 Well, fair enough.

00:08:52.340 He does hate us.

00:08:53.620 And he got the last word because that's how his cronies set up the question and answer

00:08:58.140 session.

00:08:58.780 But he just showed he doesn't believe in our rights, even when the court tells us that

00:09:04.440 we have them.

00:09:05.700 He doesn't respect the courts.

00:09:07.000 If they don't do what he says, he doesn't respect the law other than as a tool for his

00:09:11.320 own ambitions.

00:09:11.780 So Stephen Gilbeau dumped his proposal to the public after Parliament rose for the summer

00:09:18.900 and he said that he called for consultations, but Parliament wasn't sitting.

00:09:23.040 So there were no hearings.

00:09:24.840 No one was working in Parliament.

00:09:26.320 They were out campaigning.

00:09:27.320 It was a meaningless consultation, of course.

00:09:29.720 The whole point of censorship is you don't really want to hear from people who disagree

00:09:33.340 with you anyway.

00:09:34.040 So who cares, right?

00:09:34.820 Despite that, a whole raft of groups who care about the Internet and even a few who care

00:09:40.240 about freedom weighed in.

00:09:42.100 One guy I really admire is Professor Michael Geist, a freedom-oriented professor at the

00:09:47.060 University of Ottawa who wrote a detailed reply to the proposals.

00:09:52.340 It's fascinating.

00:09:53.300 He points out the proposal doesn't even mention the Charter of Rights at all, that the proposal

00:09:58.760 isn't really made in Canada.

00:10:00.360 It adopts the worst of bad policy choices from other countries, that it blurs how to 0.93

00:10:06.020 deal with real crimes like terrorism or child pornography, with political non-crimes like

00:10:12.280 hurting Gilbo's feelings.

00:10:14.620 Geist points out how this censorship can creep into anything online, including, I don't know,

00:10:19.860 do you use that private messaging app called WhatsApp?

00:10:22.600 That could be covered too.

00:10:24.400 And all this with a massive new bureaucracy.

00:10:26.740 It's really a great analysis from Professor Geist, and there are others like it from other

00:10:32.520 scholars.

00:10:33.560 Very interesting, if you have the time.

00:10:36.820 Here's another group of lawyers and academics called Citizen Lab.

00:10:39.980 I'll sum up their points.

00:10:42.480 This consultation is inadequate.

00:10:44.720 The proposed regime will not achieve its intended goals.

00:10:47.400 The scope of the proposal is overbroad and incoherent.

00:10:50.760 Automated enforcement exacerbates pre-existing problems.

00:10:53.580 Unidirectional takedown incentive will likely be inequitable and unconstitutional.

00:11:00.440 Surveillance and mandatory reporting requirements are dangerous and chilling.

00:11:04.440 New CSIS powers are unjustified and inappropriately included in this consultation.

00:11:08.880 And conclusion?

00:11:10.180 Rewrite the proposal from the ground up.

00:11:12.360 Holy mackerel! 0.99

00:11:14.560 That's a pretty succinct summary, isn't it?

00:11:16.540 They go into great detail, of course.

00:11:18.440 Heck of a read.

00:11:19.500 Then there's this from the Canadian Internet Policy Group of Scholars.

00:11:22.400 The online harms proposal combines some of the worst elements of other laws around the

00:11:28.300 world.

00:11:29.480 This is why CIPIC, that's the name of their group, believes that the Department of Canadian

00:11:33.460 Heritage needs to overhaul its current approach to addressing the problems caused by unlawful

00:11:38.360 online content.

00:11:39.640 We are seriously concerned about numerous elements of the proposed law, such as the lack of adequate

00:11:44.280 transparency requirements, the loosened requirements for the Canadian Security Intelligence

00:11:48.400 service, ceases to obtain basic subscriber information, the various jurisdictional issues raised by

00:11:53.680 the law, and whether an administrative body like the Digital Recourse Council should be

00:11:58.280 able to determine what speech is legal under Canadian law.

00:12:01.760 Holy moly!

00:12:02.800 Let me read some more.

00:12:04.120 Here's the Internet Society of Canada.

00:12:06.480 Let me read three paragraphs from their work, okay?

00:12:08.560 The remedies proposed by the government effectively create two parallel regimes, both of which are

00:12:14.160 intrusive of the privacy rights of individuals.

00:12:16.680 They are designed to chill speech.

00:12:19.120 The prime remedy for Internet harms, as proposed by the government, is a mandated censorship regime.

00:12:24.980 It would require social media platforms under the supervision of the state to censor the

00:12:28.920 speech of their users.

00:12:30.320 The platform censorship regime would be backed by an ongoing governmental surveillance of the

00:12:34.520 censorship practices of the platforms to ensure they meet minimal government standards and that the

00:12:39.060 government determines to be best practices.

00:12:42.200 The second remedy consists of requirements that platforms report to law enforcement and national

00:12:46.980 security agencies content that it may have adjudged harmful under its internal censorship policies.

00:12:53.020 Holy moly!

00:12:54.760 There are actually about a half a dozen other groups that scorch the government like this, and these are

00:13:00.360 scholars, they're legal experts, or internet industry groups.

00:13:05.020 They are not partisan people.

00:13:06.820 These are not political parties.

00:13:08.040 In fact, the conservatives have been silent.

00:13:11.560 But all these experts think it's astonishingly bad law and policy.

00:13:16.220 But I can see only one journalism group that weighed in.

00:13:20.760 Our friends at the Internet Press Gallery, run by Candace Malcolm of True North,

00:13:24.780 about 50 or so independent journalists in it, including Rebel News.

00:13:28.520 It's, you can see here, we'll post the whole document below this video.

00:13:34.340 I encourage you to read it.

00:13:35.800 It's the freedom argument.

00:13:37.520 It's from freedom-oriented journalists.

00:13:40.180 There are so many great arguments in here, including many related to the utter vagueness of

00:13:44.720 the powers given to the Internet regulator.

00:13:46.560 That's not by accident.

00:13:48.380 Vague legal drafting is designed to give bureaucrats maximum power later.

00:13:52.580 Here's a sample.

00:13:53.260 Let me read a little bit for you.

00:13:54.300 C-36, the Canadian Human Rights Commission, will be inundated with allegations of hate speech

00:14:03.560 where the speech is of a quasi-private nature, or the complainant has not suffered an adverse

00:14:08.920 consequence in the protected areas as required by the Part 2 of the Moore test.

00:14:13.560 Finally, it is arbitrary, unreasonable, overly broad, and unnecessary for the commission to

00:14:19.520 have jurisdiction over communication on the Internet or by telecommunication, where the

00:14:24.700 same communication made verbally or in print would fall outside the commission's jurisdiction.

00:14:28.940 Isn't that the truth?

00:14:29.780 Do you get that?

00:14:30.660 So you can say something anywhere else, and the law can't touch you.

00:14:34.840 You say it on the Internet, and suddenly they can hunt you for it.

00:14:40.300 How does that make sense?

00:14:41.480 That's a good observation.

00:14:42.120 Here's another part in there where Internet companies themselves have to report your bad

00:14:47.240 behavior to the cops, and I do mean the cops' cops.

00:14:50.540 Here's the passage.

00:14:52.500 OCSP, by the way, stands for Online Communications Service Providers.

00:14:56.860 Let me read this to you.

00:14:58.340 Suspicions and bias.

00:14:59.920 We also raise issues with the obligation on OCSPs to make reports to the RCMP when they

00:15:08.460 have, quote, reasonable grounds to suspect harm.

00:15:11.720 First, this proposal is supposed to be a regulatory process and not an expansion of policing obligations

00:15:17.100 to private organizations.

00:15:18.580 Second, unbridled and discretionary authority based on suspicions will almost certainly result

00:15:25.740 in disproportionate policing by OSP and law enforcement of racialized and low-income communities,

00:15:31.320 as well as those who express unpopular speech.

00:15:34.240 I really recommend you read the whole document yourself.

00:15:36.780 You can find it on our website under the video, and you can find it, of course, on the independent

00:15:40.680 press gallery website.

00:15:42.200 But imagine that, requiring everyone in the Internet business to be an informant in a snitch.

00:15:46.600 That's totally the true way.

00:15:47.900 But hang on a second, okay?

00:15:50.040 I mentioned the independent press gallery.

00:15:51.740 That's the group we're a part of.

00:15:52.880 Candace Malcolm's the president.

00:15:53.920 That's in contraposition to the parliamentary press gallery.

00:15:58.800 That's the big press gallery in Ottawa that all the government journalists are a part of.

00:16:03.400 Where's their submission on these online harms, this Internet censorship?

00:16:07.480 Where's theirs?

00:16:09.620 They didn't make one.

00:16:11.640 Where's the group CJFE, Canadian Journalists for Free Expressions?

00:16:16.060 Surely they got something to say, right?

00:16:17.760 I mean, that's their name.

00:16:20.180 No, they're silent.

00:16:21.260 I actually went to the Twitter feed just to check, and instead, I saw this.

00:16:27.500 Canadian Journalists for Free Expressions condemns Canadian People's Party leader, Maxime

00:16:31.600 Bernier's attempt to intimidate and punish journalists whose reporting he described as

00:16:35.620 disgusting smear jobs by encouraging his Twitter followers to play dirty and write directly to

00:16:40.800 them. 0.98

00:16:41.040 Oh, is that playing dirty?

00:16:43.000 Such an attempt to target individual journalists by a party leader has no place in the Canadian

00:16:46.800 democratic process.

00:16:47.700 So nothing about freedom of the press, nothing about the biggest, worst censorship plans in

00:16:52.700 Canadian history.

00:16:53.600 That's all fine with CJFE.

00:16:56.140 It's a globally awful plan.

00:16:57.860 Nothing on that, but a demand to silence Maxime Bernier because he told his followers to email

00:17:03.800 journalists on their publicly available work, journalists.

00:17:07.360 And how about the biggest of them all, the Canadian Association of Journalists?

00:17:13.920 They are what their name says they are.

00:17:17.200 Well, they didn't have anything to say about this censorship provision. 0.99

00:17:20.700 What are you, crazy?

00:17:22.760 They want to go after Bernier too, and they're going further. 0.95

00:17:28.220 They actually want the police to go after Maxime Bernier.

00:17:33.100 Take a look for yourself.

00:17:35.060 C.A.J.E. urges government law enforcement to address targeted harassment of reporters.

00:17:40.260 The Canadian Association of Journalists is mindful that several sections of the criminal

00:17:43.640 code prohibit the willful promotion of hatred.

00:17:46.860 For this reason, we urge the RCMP and other law enforcement bodies to launch investigations

00:17:50.620 immediately.

00:17:52.880 Got it.

00:17:53.360 Look, they know whose team they're on.

00:17:56.100 It's 2021.

00:17:56.920 They get paid by Justin Trudeau.

00:18:00.080 They always naturally leaned to Trudeau.

00:18:02.820 Anyways, Bernier is against their media bailout.

00:18:06.640 And he said something mean to one of them.

00:18:09.120 They don't want to mess around with an internet censor.

00:18:12.640 They want much more.

00:18:13.500 They want the police to go silence their enemy.

00:18:16.740 And they're saying this in public because they know, what are you going to do about it?

00:18:23.100 So yeah, when the censorship bill comes in, and it will, everyone will be against it in 0.99

00:18:30.600 Canada, except Trudeau and his harem of prostitutes. 0.98

00:18:35.540 I'm sorry to use such rude language. 0.99

00:18:39.000 And soon that kind of talk will be illegal, won't it?

00:18:42.960 But is there a more accurate way to describe such treachery from journalists who used to

00:18:48.320 care about freedom in the press?

00:18:50.600 Stay with us for more.

00:18:53.100 Well, yesterday was the National Day of Truth and Reconciliation.

00:19:03.980 This was a day that Justin Trudeau himself decided should be observed, for the federal

00:19:09.540 government at least, and some other industries.

00:19:11.520 It was a day to contemplate the relationship between Aboriginal people and the government,

00:19:16.600 and especially for the government itself.

00:19:18.620 It was the perfect Trudeau day.

00:19:21.440 He says he cares so very deeply.

00:19:24.280 And yet, if you looked at his official calendar online, well, it said he was in private meetings

00:19:29.700 in Ottawa.

00:19:30.540 But then news broke that that, well, that simply wasn't true.

00:19:34.340 He wasn't in Ottawa at all.

00:19:36.480 He was in his favorite place doing his favorite thing.

00:19:39.360 He was in Tofino, on the west coast of Vancouver Island, surfing.

00:19:46.500 His staff lied.

00:19:48.900 And when asked by journalists, they specifically denied it.

00:19:53.420 CBC, the state broadcaster, claimed that he was not surfing, but rather he was doing very

00:19:59.880 important things related to the National Day of Truth and Reconciliation.

00:20:02.840 But look at this.

00:20:05.820 Someone spotted the lad surfing in Tofino.

00:20:10.200 Take a look.

00:20:11.720 Why not in person, sir?

00:20:17.420 They invited you.

00:20:32.840 Well, like you, I'm just shocked that Justin Trudeau would believe in virtue signaling.

00:20:38.820 But when he thought the cameras weren't watching, he's really just going to surf and smoke some

00:20:43.520 pot and really be Justin Trudeau.

00:20:45.120 The CBC lied.

00:20:46.800 Congratulations to the other media that caught the line.

00:20:50.580 You know, this isn't the first time that Justin Trudeau has claimed to support Aboriginal

00:20:54.740 people.

00:20:55.340 But then when the mask slips, he shows his true nature.

00:20:58.120 You'll remember when one of his fundraisers was crashed by a protester asking about the

00:21:03.400 undrinkable water at Grassy Narrows.

00:21:07.420 He said, well, I'll let you see for yourself.

00:21:13.120 People in Grassy Narrows are suffering from mercury poisoning.

00:21:17.140 You committed to addressing this crisis.

00:21:19.820 Thank you for being here.

00:21:20.880 Thank you very much for your donation tonight.

00:21:23.340 I really appreciate it.

00:21:24.620 Thank you.

00:21:28.120 If it was your family that's been waiting for 500 days, if your family was suffering from

00:21:43.140 mercury poisoning, what would you do?

00:21:45.600 If it was your family, would you accept it?

00:21:48.800 Would you accept 500 days for 1%?

00:21:53.040 Mr. Trudeau, for 500 days, you have not kept the commitment.

00:21:56.500 Thank you.

00:21:57.200 If it was your own family, what would you do?

00:22:02.180 Thank you for being here at the time, sir.

00:22:04.220 Thank you very much for your donation.

00:22:05.880 Answer the question.

00:22:07.760 So, as I was saying, we move forward understanding that investing...

00:22:13.200 Thank you for your donation.

00:22:14.980 One more flashback while we're at it.

00:22:16.780 I was at this event, a boxing match between Justin Trudeau and Senator Patrick Brazzo, an

00:22:22.260 Aboriginal senator.

00:22:23.880 Look at what Trudeau said.

00:22:25.340 Look at the laughter here.

00:22:26.720 Take a look.

00:22:27.360 So I said, we're both known for our long hair on the hill. 0.67

00:22:31.300 Let's say the loser gets a haircut.

00:22:33.780 He resisted back a little bit, pointing out that hair has a cultural significance for First 0.92

00:22:39.000 Nations peoples.

00:22:39.700 And I said, I know.

00:22:41.300 That's why I proposed it.

00:22:42.460 When a warrior cuts his hair, it's a sign of shame.

00:22:44.700 So it's very apropos.

00:22:46.840 He deliberately wanted to humiliate Senator Patrick Brazzo in a way that would embarrass

00:22:52.640 him as an Aboriginal man.

00:22:54.280 Well, joining us now to talk about this in studio is our friend Drea Humphrey, our West

00:22:59.300 Coast reporter.

00:23:00.320 It's great to have you here at our office.

00:23:02.460 We don't see you enough.

00:23:03.380 It's a pleasure to have you here in person.

00:23:04.620 Yeah, it feels really official.

00:23:06.300 I think this is my first time in the studio.

00:23:09.380 Yeah.

00:23:09.400 It's a pleasure to have you.

00:23:10.800 What do you think about the story of the day?

00:23:13.080 I mean, Justin Trudeau couldn't for one day, the holiday he invented, he couldn't observe 0.73

00:23:20.020 it because he really doesn't give a damn.

00:23:21.840 Well, it's a classic case of actions speak louder than words.

00:23:25.520 We've seen this many times with him before.

00:23:27.580 And like you said, he brought that in.

00:23:30.180 I think there's only 13 things that have been fulfilled out of the truth and reconciliation.

00:23:35.620 And this holiday was one of them.

00:23:37.720 And he couldn't even fake caring, you know, and it couldn't get any worse than, you know,

00:23:42.320 having to manipulate where you're saying you're going and then going to BC for how many times

00:23:47.660 has he been to BC?

00:23:48.960 Well, he goes there for votes, but when those official things are done, he does what he wants.

00:23:54.120 You know, he claimed to care so very much about this issue of these graveyards where the remains

00:24:01.740 of kids and others from these residential schools were found.

00:24:05.500 And he made a big scene about that.

00:24:07.660 But I learned that the chief of the Indian band that you went to in Kamloops, I think it's

00:24:12.860 called the Kamloops band, had invited him twice to come visit her.

00:24:19.560 He didn't accept that.

00:24:21.020 He wanted to go surfing instead on the holiday that he created.

00:24:25.180 It's a fake.

00:24:26.100 Everything about him is fake.

00:24:27.760 Absolutely.

00:24:28.660 It's really shameful.

00:24:30.300 And, you know, also like he knew about these grave sites before, because again, if you read

00:24:36.520 the truth and reconciliation, that was one of the things that were brought up.

00:24:40.800 It's a whole checker on it.

00:24:41.300 So to only care about it after the initial announcement, that's just another symbol of

00:24:46.460 what's happening here.

00:24:47.320 But yet somehow, three terms, and who's the prime minister?

00:24:51.600 Yeah, it's very frustrating.

00:24:52.960 And B.C. is so interesting.

00:24:54.660 I think of that wonderful neighborhood, Vancouver, Granville, which is, if anyone's ever been

00:24:59.700 to Vancouver, it's such a lovely neighborhood.

00:25:01.720 And Granville Island is a wonderful place.

00:25:03.920 If you like to snack, which, you know, I do.

00:25:08.040 Get the donuts.

00:25:09.000 That's right.

00:25:10.040 They had one of the most ethical MPs in recent memory.

00:25:13.680 I'm talking about Jody Wilson and Raybould.

00:25:15.460 I really don't know of any other cabinet minister who resigned on a matter of ethics that she would

00:25:21.480 not go along with an unethical plan.

00:25:24.620 Like, that's so rare.

00:25:26.100 I can't even think of the last time that happened in Canada, certainly not in my memory.

00:25:30.900 And to replace her with a sneaky liberal, that house flipper who flipped a house 41 times 1.00

00:25:37.880 or something, while complaining about house speculation.

00:25:42.300 And he won his seat, right?

00:25:44.080 That's what, it breaks my heart.

00:25:47.200 And I don't get it because I see through him. 0.98

00:25:49.880 I see the phony, the phony feminist who gropes women and allows other gropers in his party. 1.00

00:25:57.660 The phony aboriginal sympathizer who actually doesn't give a care unless the camera's on. 0.99

00:26:03.900 The phony anti-racist who dresses up in blackface so often he's lost count. 0.99

00:26:08.720 Phony, phony, phony. 0.99

00:26:09.980 I see through that.

00:26:12.400 I'm just surprised that others don't.

00:26:14.580 They're just wooed by him or maybe they're not paying attention or maybe they don't care.

00:26:18.200 I don't know if it's just people aren't paying attention so they think liberal is the way they're

00:26:22.920 supposed to vote.

00:26:23.840 But I kid you not, I have still heard people say he's good looking.

00:26:27.880 Like, what does that have to do?

00:26:29.800 Yeah.

00:26:30.200 You know what I mean?

00:26:31.360 And so, I'm tired of these politicians just, you know, using the whole race thing whenever

00:26:37.460 it's convenient for them for votes or for status and pictures and all of that stuff.

00:26:43.720 Yeah.

00:26:43.880 You know, I did a monologue where I went through a Statistics Canada survey that showed

00:26:48.020 new Canadians think we're less racist than white, old-stock Canadians. 0.89

00:26:54.620 I believe that for sure.

00:26:56.160 Yeah.

00:26:56.400 And I can believe that, yeah.

00:26:57.960 Yeah.

00:26:58.340 So, I think it's very strange.

00:27:01.380 And one of the depressing things in that same StatsCan survey is that the young folks think

00:27:06.480 we're racist.

00:27:08.000 And maybe they don't know our history or maybe they're being taught to hate this country.

00:27:12.120 Anyone who comes to this country is obviously making the choice that it's better than wherever 1.00

00:27:16.280 they were for whatever reason.

00:27:17.640 Maybe it's just for economic reasons.

00:27:19.360 Maybe it's for political freedom.

00:27:21.000 Maybe their family's here.

00:27:21.880 For whatever reason, they're obviously choosing to come here.

00:27:25.900 Trudeau is the specialist at denigrating our own country.

00:27:29.200 He's the one who said we committed a genocide against Aboriginal people.

00:27:32.720 Of all the people in the country who should be observing this new holiday, it should be

00:27:38.700 him.

00:27:38.980 He's the one who claims we did a genocide, yet he's out surfing on the...

00:27:42.600 That would be like on Holocaust Memorial Day, you know, just going to some dance party

00:27:49.720 or something.

00:27:50.560 If you claim you care about it.

00:27:52.520 Yeah, I'm not saying you have to care about it.

00:27:55.060 But you're the one who created the holiday.

00:27:57.000 You're the one who claims you care about it.

00:27:58.320 And you're out surfing.

00:27:59.380 Well, and he went to Tofino, lied about going there.

00:28:02.640 And then he gets caught there.

00:28:03.640 He didn't reach out to the Tofino Indian man either.

00:28:06.700 There's a lot of Indian bands in those parts.

00:28:08.700 Yeah.

00:28:08.800 So he could have done that, you know, two birds with one stone, but he just doesn't

00:28:14.060 care.

00:28:14.740 Yeah, it's incredible.

00:28:15.920 Well, Drea, we're very proud of the work you're doing.

00:28:18.780 And you tried to hold him to account on a variety of issues.

00:28:22.940 Of course, his bodyguards only allowed people to come close to him if they wanted a selfie.

00:28:29.660 Not anyone asking questions.

00:28:31.140 But I appreciate you doing a great job during the election.

00:28:34.000 Thank you for that.

00:28:34.580 Thank you so much.

00:28:35.460 Great to have you out here.

00:28:36.300 That's Drea Humphrey. 0.98

00:28:37.500 Stay with us.

00:28:38.100 More ahead.

00:28:39.860 All right.

00:28:40.320 Thanks, Efron.

00:28:40.940 I tell you, if you have the time, may I invite you to read through the Independent Press Gallery

00:28:50.660 briefing to the government.

00:28:52.040 Now, it's obviously going to be ignored by the government.

00:28:54.100 But the arguments are very interesting about what this online harms, as Gilbo and Trudeau

00:29:00.020 call it, what their censorship law will do.

00:29:02.140 I think it's really terrifying.

00:29:03.520 It's very interesting to me that everyone in the industry is against it.

00:29:06.500 And they use very strong language.

00:29:08.720 And by industry, I mean the actual internet industry, those involved in the bones of the

00:29:13.880 internet, the backbone.

00:29:15.920 But those who use the internet and use freedom in their daily work, the Canadian Association

00:29:20.560 of Journalists, Canadian journalists for free expression, they're totally silent about

00:29:25.640 the censorship.

00:29:26.620 And they're using their power to go after Maxime Bernier because he said something mean to

00:29:31.200 them.

00:29:32.160 They're for censorship.

00:29:33.160 It's incredible.

00:29:34.780 And of course, they are Trudeau's base.

00:29:36.580 So you know that censorship is coming.

00:29:38.060 We're going to fight it like hell.

00:29:39.320 We're going to throw everything we have at it.

00:29:41.300 Because if we don't, who will?

00:29:43.160 I'm grateful to be a member of the Independent Press Gallery.

00:29:46.700 And I'm grateful there is such a thing because, of course, the Parliamentary Press Gallery is

00:29:49.880 useless other than as an auxiliary to Trudeau's government.

00:29:55.560 Well, that's our show for today.

00:29:57.640 As you know, these days we end by showing you an interesting video along the way.

00:30:02.140 Here's a video by Kian Simone.

00:30:04.020 We call him K2. 0.98

00:30:05.360 And he caught up with Pastor Arthur Pawlowski when Pastor Arthur was being let out of jail.

00:30:13.400 He got out of jail around midnight the other night.

00:30:16.480 And then he went back to the police station to get his stuff.

00:30:18.920 It was an interesting interaction and some very raw comments.

00:30:21.920 So I'll leave you with that video.

00:30:24.600 And if you think that Pastor Arthur Pawlowski isn't just someone whose own rights are being

00:30:30.160 trampled on, but rather he's a bulwark stopping the government from trampling your rights, consider

00:30:35.340 going to SaveArthur.com because we're crowdfunding his legal defense.

00:30:39.080 Anyways, enjoy the weekend.

00:30:40.880 Enjoy this video from K2 with Pastor Arthur.

00:30:43.700 And until next time, I see you on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters.

00:30:47.860 To you at home, good night.

00:30:49.440 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:30:50.580 Here's that video.

00:31:01.660 I'm just doing my job.

00:31:02.920 What can I do?

00:31:03.560 I'm just doing my job.

00:31:04.780 Well, I'm going in and see if my staff is there.

00:31:12.140 Good morning.

00:31:13.940 I'm here to pick up my staff.

00:31:15.620 I'm here to pick up my staff.

00:31:16.620 I'm here to pick up my staff.

00:31:17.620 I'm here to pick up my staff.

00:31:18.620 I'm here to pick up my staff.

00:31:19.620 I'm here to pick up my staff.

00:31:20.620 I'm in Calgary, Alberta, where I'll be catching up with Archer Pawlowski, who was just released

00:31:25.560 on bail a few days ago after his second SWAT-style arrest at the airport returning to the country.

00:31:31.240 Alright.

00:31:32.240 Can I have you on your back?

00:31:33.240 Not only was he vanished off the plane, but so was his luggage.

00:31:45.220 Today, I'll be meeting him at the police headquarters to receive that luggage and catch up with him

00:31:49.560 for a quick interview before, just in case they pull a fast one.

00:31:52.660 Before we get to that, I would like to ask you for your help to go to SaveArcher.com

00:31:57.660 and help fund his legal fees against his battle against the Alberta government.

00:32:01.660 Well, as you know, I have been traveling around the USA for the past four months to share my story,

00:32:07.660 to let the Americans know what is happening in Australia, what is happening in New Zealand,

00:32:11.660 and right now what is happening in Canada is heading their way.

00:32:15.660 So I came over there to share my story of injustice that I'm facing.

00:32:20.660 I have become a political prisoner simply because I'm a pastor,

00:32:23.660 simply because I value my Christian faith and I want to stand by my beliefs.

00:32:28.660 And to share that story and also to warn them, if they will not rise up for their liberties,

00:32:34.660 if they will not stand up for their freedoms, what is happening to me is going to happen to every one of them.

00:32:39.660 You see, America is still a power horse.

00:32:42.660 If they will rise up and stand up, we can rescue the rest of the free world.

00:32:46.660 So I was there for four months.

00:32:48.660 I was treated like a hero, standing ovations all over the place, meeting with the governor,

00:32:53.660 meeting with Congress people, meeting with senators and very powerful people

00:33:00.660 because they understand what's really going on globally.

00:33:03.660 But upon my arrival here to my beloved Canada, to Calgary, I was arrested immediately after I arrived.

00:33:11.660 I was not even allowed to give a hug to my children and to kiss my wife.

00:33:16.660 That's how wicked those people are. Evil, evil, evil.

00:33:20.660 Knowing that I have been away for so long, I arrived, my wife, my children are waking, waiting for me.

00:33:27.660 They were not allowed to come close.

00:33:29.660 And I was not even given a courtesy to say hi to my children, to hug my 12 year old daughter.

00:33:35.660 That's how evil those people are.

00:33:38.660 I was arrested by masked bandits right coming out of my airplane.

00:33:44.660 And my belongings were taken away from me.

00:33:47.660 My luggage, my clothes, my computer, my backpack.

00:33:51.660 And I was myself taken to the police custody where I was processed, you know, fingerprints, solitary confinement, the whole nine yards.

00:34:00.660 And I had the bail hearing.

00:34:01.660 And when I was coming out after I was released by the GP, I asked for my belongings.

00:34:08.660 Where is my staff?

00:34:09.660 I mean, I was taken straight from the plane.

00:34:12.660 And they said, we have no idea what happened to your staff.

00:34:15.660 We don't have it.

00:34:16.660 I mean, excuse me.

00:34:17.660 You are the police.

00:34:18.660 You arrested me.

00:34:19.660 Where is my staff?

00:34:21.660 And they were puzzled.

00:34:23.660 They didn't know what happened to my staff.

00:34:25.660 It was taken.

00:34:26.660 It was taken.

00:34:27.660 So here I'm going to this building, to the warehouse, to find out if perhaps they have brought that staff here.

00:34:36.660 Because I don't know.

00:34:37.660 No one contacted me.

00:34:39.660 No one called me.

00:34:40.660 They just stole my staff.

00:34:42.660 They took my staff.

00:34:44.660 And no one knows what happened to it.

00:34:46.660 So I made a few phone calls and I was told that perhaps the staff is going to be here.

00:34:52.660 I will find out soon.

00:34:53.660 I don't know why they want me to come in.

00:34:56.660 I might not be able to come out.

00:34:58.660 So I just don't know.

00:35:01.660 At this moment, I am very puzzled.

00:35:04.660 Our lawyers are very puzzled.

00:35:06.660 Because we used to think that Canada is a country that has a set of laws and set of rules.

00:35:15.660 The Criminal Code of Canada, which has been broken every single time that those officers are showing up in our church,

00:35:22.660 disrupting our religious services, arresting pastors, fencing churches.

00:35:27.660 The Criminal Code 172 has been broken so many times.

00:35:31.660 It looks like we have entered an era of lawlessness.

00:35:34.660 One law for me, one law for the Premier of Alberta, Jason Kenney, broke the rules for party with his Minister of Finance, with the Minister of Environment.

00:35:44.660 Oh, he had a good time with the whiskey bottle, not wearing a muzzle, not social distancing.

00:35:49.660 And that's fine, you see, because they are the pharaohs.

00:35:52.660 And we are the slaves.

00:35:54.660 They can do whatever they want.

00:35:55.660 They can break every rule and any rule.

00:35:58.660 But not for you.

00:35:59.660 Be careful.

00:36:00.660 You might be arrested.

00:36:01.660 You might be criminally charged, like me, just for simply living your life.

00:36:06.660 It's shocking.

00:36:07.660 And remember, I grew up in hell on earth, behind the Iron Curtain, under the boots of the Soviets. 0.98

00:36:13.660 And here, for me, maybe not for you, but for me, this is just a repetition of history.

00:36:18.660 And I'm heartbroken.

00:36:19.660 I have three children.

00:36:20.660 What kind of a nation they're going to have tomorrow if we will let those corrupted politicians to do what they do? 0.95

00:36:27.660 And with the assistance of masked bandits, gangsters in uniforms.

00:36:31.660 That's shocking.

00:36:32.660 Is there no officer that say, hey, this is wrong?

00:36:35.660 This is wrong.

00:36:36.660 This is unconstitutional.

00:36:38.660 This is illegal.

00:36:39.660 This is wrong.

00:36:40.660 I will not partake in this.

00:36:42.660 Or they just say, well, I'm just doing my job like the Nazis, like the SS, like the Gestapo, you know, during the Hitler era. 0.78

00:36:49.660 I'm just doing my job.

00:36:50.660 What can I do?

00:36:51.660 I'm just doing my job.

00:36:52.660 Well, I'm going in and see if my staff is there.

00:36:57.660 Good morning.

00:37:00.660 Good morning.

00:37:01.660 I'm here to pick up my stuff.

00:37:04.660 Excuse me, guys.

00:37:10.660 Outside's fine, but not inside, please.

00:37:13.660 Why not?

00:37:14.660 You're afraid of something?

00:37:16.660 For security purposes, please do not film in here.

00:37:19.660 For security purposes?

00:37:20.660 I'm asking you nicely.

00:37:21.660 Please do not film in here.

00:37:23.660 Okay?

00:37:24.660 You don't like to be caught red-handed like the Nazis of old. 0.93

00:37:29.660 You hate that idea.

00:37:31.660 I've heard you.

00:37:32.660 I'm not deaf.

00:37:33.660 You don't like to be recorded because you don't want, you don't like your face to be right there, that you're a communist Nazi Gestapo, right? 0.86

00:37:41.660 You're here for your stuff.

00:37:43.660 Please take your stuff.

00:37:44.660 You were supposed to call me.

00:37:45.660 You took, you stole my stuff.

00:37:47.660 You took my stuff from the airport and you don't even call me to tell me where is my stuff.

00:37:52.660 You've stolen my things.

00:37:54.660 I just need to, I just need to click signature and I can give you your alarm.

00:37:58.660 Good.

00:37:59.660 Why you didn't call me that you have my stuff?

00:38:01.660 Why I was not notified that you have stolen my things and you have brought them here for two days?

00:38:06.660 I did try one phone number, the only one I could find for you.

00:38:08.660 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:38:09.660 You know how to arrest me, but you don't know how to contact me, right?

00:38:13.660 Can you, can you imagine?

00:38:16.660 They know how to find me when they want to handcuff me in front of my children.

00:38:19.660 They just don't know how to contact me to return my stuff that was taken away from me.

00:38:24.660 Unbelievable.

00:38:29.660 Unbelievable.

00:38:31.660 And you know, they hate the idea of filming.

00:38:34.660 Thank you rebel for doing this because without you, people would not have clue what's really going on in our beloved Canada.

00:38:42.660 They don't like to be recorded.

00:38:43.660 They don't like this to go out because they know, they know it's wrong.

00:38:48.660 They know they're breaking the law.

00:38:50.660 They don't like to be exposed.

00:38:53.660 Like that pilot.

00:38:56.660 When I was arrested and being taken, the pilot, the officer in charge says, take his telephone away.

00:39:03.660 I am going to open this door so you can go through it.

00:39:07.660 Okay.

00:39:08.660 Thank you.

00:39:09.660 You're welcome.

00:39:18.660 So another thing is, here are all of my electronics.

00:39:47.660 My computer, my data, the whole nine yards.

00:39:52.660 I don't know what they were doing with my stuff.

00:39:54.660 I don't know if they were tempering with something.

00:39:57.660 I have no idea.

00:39:58.660 And no one notified me.

00:40:00.660 No one said anything to me.

00:40:02.660 I mean, that's sick.

00:40:04.660 That's how low we have fallen in this country.

00:40:08.660 So anyway, I'll let you know if I have everything and I'm glad that has not been stolen.

00:40:15.660 Arthur left with his wife, who he will be spending most of his time with along with their children until he awaits his court date for October 13th, where he will be either sentenced for 21 days in prison for opening his church or he will be set free from this draconian nightmare.

00:40:34.660 If you would like to stand beside Archer, the best way to do that is by going to SaveArcher.com and help us crowdfund his legal fees against the Alberta government.

00:40:42.660 I want to thank you for tuning in.

00:40:44.660 For Rebel News, I'm Kian Simone.

00:40:46.660 Have a great day!

00:41:16.660 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - October 02, 2021

EZRA LEVANT ｜ No-one (except journalists) wants Canada to increase censorship of the Internet

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