Rebel News Podcast - October 21, 2026


EZRA LEVANT | Quebec's new Premier says Canada "does not work" and points to Alberta's referendum

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REBEL ROUNDUP | Alberta votes to stay, Smith wins on immigration, Carney reacts

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00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. The dust has settled in Alberta's referendum, and two of the most interesting comments about it came not from Alberta, but from Quebec, from the Quebec Premier, who's a Parti Quebecois member, and from the leader of the Quebec Conservatives.
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00:00:37.240 Tonight, Paul Saint-Pierre Plamondon was sworn in as a premier of Quebec,
00:00:51.480 and his first message to Ottawa was about Alberta.
00:00:55.160 It's October 21st, and this is The Ezra Levant Show.
00:00:57.480 Shame on you, you censorious bug!
00:01:07.240 so monday night alberta voted 75 said they want to stay in canada well that's not actually 0.51
00:01:19.580 what the question was it should the province have another referendum on independence but
00:01:24.920 i suppose it's close enough to the same thing you've heard that part before the cbc couldn't
00:01:29.600 stop saying it mark carney said he was thrilled but there were 10 questions on the ballot not just
00:01:35.380 Alberta independents. And the other nine weren't about separating. They were about immigration,
00:01:40.620 about judges, about the Senate, about who's the boss, Ottawa or the provinces. That's pretty
00:01:46.780 interesting, isn't it? Here's how Albertans answered. More provincial control over immigration
00:01:51.340 to bring the numbers down. Yes, by 54%. Restrict welfare for newcomers. Yes, 58%.
00:02:00.020 Make temporary residents pay a fee to use the hospitals and the schools.
00:02:05.480 Yes, 57%. 0.99
00:02:07.060 Proof of citizenship to vote.
00:02:10.160 Yes, 63%. 0.99
00:02:11.620 I should hope so.
00:02:12.780 That should be 93%.
00:02:14.640 Provincial laws over federal laws. 0.72
00:02:17.700 Pick our own judges.
00:02:18.700 Abolish the Senate.
00:02:19.440 Yes, yes, yes.
00:02:20.600 Eight out of nine passed.
00:02:22.020 The only one that failed, and it was just by a whisker, was opting out of federal programs with compensation.
00:02:27.740 Danielle Smith last night said,
00:02:29.420 we will use every legal and political tool at our disposal
00:02:32.780 to protect and advance the interests of Albertans.
00:02:35.500 And when Ottawa interferes with these rights, we will be unrelenting.
00:02:39.160 And she said Albertans had, quote,
00:02:41.020 directed the provincial government to take greater control over immigration.
00:02:45.900 Okay, now here's what you didn't see on the CBC.
00:02:48.780 The loudest cheer for Alberta on Tuesday morning
00:02:51.920 didn't come from Saskatchewan,
00:02:54.860 came from Quebec City.
00:02:57.720 Paul St-Pierre Plamondon, or PSPP, everyone calls him.
00:03:02.200 He's the leader of the Parti Québécois.
00:03:03.840 He's a separatist.
00:03:05.160 He won the Quebec election on October 5th, 59 seats.
00:03:08.920 It's a minority, and he just became premier.
00:03:11.320 And on Tuesday, he put out a long statement about Alberta.
00:03:16.800 Here's the first line.
00:03:19.000 Canada, as it is, does not work, and the status quo is no longer acceptable.
00:03:23.980 He called the Federation a car can, a straitjacket.
00:03:27.980 He said Albertans, quote, like Quebecers before them, are challenging the Canadian constitutional order and the federal regime's abuses of power in provincial jurisdiction.
00:03:38.980 And then he said, quote, the new government of Quebec will make sure the message is understood in Ottawa.
00:03:44.980 Really?
00:03:47.780 He even thanked Albertans for proving his words, quote,
00:03:52.100 there's nothing to fear in expressing yourself by a referendum.
00:03:55.120 He's got one planned for 2029.
00:03:57.400 This isn't new for him, by the way.
00:03:59.140 Back in April of last year, when Daniel Smith first said she'd allow a referendum,
00:04:03.540 PSPP stood up in the National Assembly and said,
00:04:06.520 Tom, you, good.
00:04:08.100 Is my accent okay?
00:04:09.900 What a striking thing to see Daniel Smith do more for the defense of her province,
00:04:14.260 her own parliament than Francois Legault did in his entire term, he said, Legault being the
00:04:20.920 recently de-elected premier. Quebec separatists is praising an Alberta conservative.
00:04:27.420 Is that a new one? I think that's a new one. So he's the winner. He's the premier.
00:04:32.960 But there's another guy who did really well. He broke through in Quebec the other day.
00:04:38.200 His name is Eric Duhem. I've actually known him for 30 years when I was Preston Manning's
00:04:42.700 assistant in parliament eric was the assistant my counterpart to gil decept the leader of the
00:04:48.680 bloc cable that's how i met eric we were both youngsters on parliament at the same time can
00:04:53.000 you believe that he's now the leader of the conservative party of quebec four years ago
00:04:58.600 they got zero seats two weeks ago they won 19 imagine going from zero seats to 19 so now he's
00:05:05.020 the national assembly that's what they call their legislature for the first time in his life i think
00:05:09.580 that's amazing. He's one of the smartest guys I know anywhere. So Tuesday morning,
00:05:14.980 he held a press conference about Alberta. Listen to this.
00:05:39.580 l'Alberta dans cette revendication-là. Il y a une volonté démocratique qui vient d'être
00:05:43.720 exprimée, qui n'est pas anodine. Ce n'est pas tous les jours au Canada anglais qu'on
00:05:46.900 voit qu'on a des alliés aussi importants à l'extérieur du Québec. Et pour ce faire,
00:05:53.320 j'ai transmis au cours des dernières minutes un projet de motion qu'on a l'intention
00:05:56.700 de déposer lors de la reprise des travaux parlementaires pour justement tendre la main
00:06:02.540 à tous les partis politiques représentés à l'Assemblée nationale en vue d'appuyer
00:06:07.260 Alberta in the autonomous way.
00:06:09.260 It's a gesture to hand the hand in a parliament,
00:06:13.260 which is also minor.
00:06:15.260 The Québécois want to work together,
00:06:17.260 that we have consensus.
00:06:37.260 offered to personally broker a meeting between Daniel Smith and the new Quebec Premier.
00:06:42.340 That's sort of cool.
00:06:43.940 And here's the part I want you to notice.
00:06:45.760 He said it was about immigration.
00:06:49.140 Here, take a look.
00:06:49.640 Je pense à la société civile au Québec, c'est bien celui d'avoir un plus grand contrôle en tant que Québécois, en tant que nation, sur notre immigration.
00:06:58.220 Et maintenant qu'on voit qu'il y a une province qui vient de voter massivement en faveur d'un pouvoir accru également dans ce domaine-là, je pense que c'est une occasion qui est unique.
00:07:06.320 it's true there was one question on independence but there were five questions in alberta
00:07:11.900 about immigration duem says carney is talking about raising the numbers again back to the bad
00:07:17.220 old trudeau years and he says provinces should be able to say no now duem and pspp can't actually
00:07:23.980 stand each other they're rivals of course uh pspp is a separatist uh duem i think it's fair to say
00:07:29.680 he's a federalist pspp has accused duem of contempt for quebec's interest it's quite
00:07:34.820 dramatique but on this on immigration on alberta i think they're in the same place and they're in
00:07:41.300 the same place on something else too here's the thing the toronto media won't tell you about
00:07:45.240 quebec and i say that even as i sit in toronto quebec says out loud what alberta only hinted at
00:07:51.660 on a ballot in april pspp was at a town hall meeting the host was the jewish mainstream
00:07:59.040 lobby, someone asked him about mass Muslim immigration, and he started talking about the
00:08:05.140 Muslim Brotherhood. He said the Brotherhood ideology, what the French call frerism, is a
00:08:11.640 documented reality across Europe, and quote, the only reason it isn't documented in Canada is that
00:08:17.280 it's the agenda of the government in place. Now, the liberals went cuckoo over that. Jean-Yves Duclos
00:08:22.920 said it sounded like a conspiracy theory. Mark Miller called it ridiculous, but he didn't back 0.57
00:08:28.960 down which is sort of amazing he said quote the agenda is multiculturalism and willful blindness 0.97
00:08:33.960 to foreign interference now he was careful he said he wouldn't call it muslim immigration because
00:08:40.280 he'd met too many people who fled iran saudi arabia afghanistan and chose quebec precisely
00:08:45.400 to get away from religious totalitarianism he said quote i'm aiming for social peace
00:08:50.720 but he said it the premier of quebec said it immigration is the thing then the campaign
00:08:58.200 He stood in front of a high school in Quebec City with 24 portable classrooms and said
00:09:02.320 it was overflowing because of immigration.
00:09:05.820 The left called him a racist.
00:09:07.420 Of course they do.
00:09:08.380 Here was his answer.
00:09:09.420 He said, saying there's overcrowding in the schools and it causes a big wave of immigration,
00:09:15.040 that's not racist, that's non-intolerance.
00:09:17.220 And then he said, quote, Quebecers have had it up to here with accusations of racism.
00:09:21.260 And he pointed to Laval, where 82% of the kids in some school boards are from immigrant families, 82%. And he asked, so how is integration supposed to happen? Yeah, I mean, if you care about the distinct society, if you think you are special, because you're French and Catholic, an island of Quebec surrounded by a sea of America, why would you replace yourselves with mass immigration, as is obviously happening in Laval?
00:09:47.940 Now, his plan is to cap permanent immigration at $35,000, cut temporary immigration in half,
00:09:55.100 a moratorium on new permanent immigrants from abroad until that's done, 0.96
00:09:58.540 and a citizenship-style ceremony for newcomers to Quebec, all of which sounds good.
00:10:03.220 I think it could go even farther, but what a great start.
00:10:06.880 And in April, his party voted for Bill 9.
00:10:10.440 No more street prayers, no religious symbols on daycare workers, no face fails in daycares.
00:10:15.140 That's Bill 9 in the Quebec legislature, mind you.
00:10:17.940 no veils in colleges or universities, no prayer rooms on campus.
00:10:22.580 The PQ says many of those ideas were theirs in the first place,
00:10:25.440 but they want to rip them out because they see how it's promoting
00:10:28.160 that very same Muslim Brotherhoodism. 0.96
00:10:31.620 Now, we told all this to our own Alexa Lavoie, by the way.
00:10:35.060 I don't know if you remember an hour-long interview in April.
00:10:40.320 Street prayers, 600,000 temporary immigrants,
00:10:43.460 the crucifix is part of who Quebecers are.
00:10:45.400 he praised Alexa's intellectual honesty. The liberals were furious that he would talk to us
00:10:50.940 at all, but he didn't back down. I like this guy. And Eric Duam goes even further. On September 14th,
00:10:56.280 he put out his immigration plan. Immigrants would get points for coming from a democracy,
00:11:01.620 weighted the same as speaking French. Here's how he put it. Quote, 0.96
00:11:05.200 we have the right to demand that those who join us at least minimally share our values rather than
00:11:10.640 drag us backwards socially and call into question equality between men and women,
00:11:14.620 or the rights of gays and lesbians and he said quote the quebec conservative party
00:11:19.880 is shocked by the excesses we've seen with street prayers in montreal and the scandal at bedford
00:11:25.040 school so cut welfare for asylum seekers by 25 stop paying their lawyers in 2022 he had a phrase
00:11:33.200 for the whole idea he said civilizational compatibility isn't that a good one now imagine
00:11:39.020 daniel smith talking like that imagine pierre pauliev talking like that frankly i think it
00:11:44.460 would be pauliev's path to power if he did the cbc would need a medic there would be this moments
00:11:49.940 like i don't know if you there's a theme in what i've just described to you pspp the new
00:11:54.700 party quebecois premier he does something the establishment the media pounce on him
00:12:00.140 and he doesn't care he doesn't blink and so he makes normal what they say is abnormal
00:12:05.900 That's how you fight it.
00:12:07.260 It would be interesting to me if Daniel Smith and or Pierre Pauly have talked this way.
00:12:12.860 And then were pounced on by the CBC and sort of said, I don't care what you say.
00:12:18.580 Like that would be amazing because that's what they just proved in Quebec.
00:12:22.280 You can do that and win.
00:12:25.020 In Quebec, it's the premier and the leader of the third party who are talking this way.
00:12:30.780 And between them, they just won 78 out of 125 seats.
00:12:34.300 and I'm putting it to you, that none of the other parties would follow Pierre Polyev,
00:12:39.680 so he would have that market to himself.
00:12:42.620 Quebec never forgot something that English Canada was trained to forget.
00:12:47.160 A nation is a culture, and a culture can be lost.
00:12:52.080 Now, I promised you the dark side, because Quebec is not just one thing.
00:12:56.160 On Tuesday, same day, same building, Quebec Solidaire got sworn in. 0.98
00:13:00.640 That's the far-left Islamist party, nine seats.
00:13:04.300 So not as many as the Conservatives or, of course, the Parti Quebecois, but this is sort
00:13:09.980 of a far-left socialist Islamist party, and their leader is Rouba Ghazal, born in Lebanon
00:13:17.120 to Palestinian refugees, came to Quebec at age 10. 0.99
00:13:20.780 Watch what she did when she walked into the room as an alleged elected legislator from 1.00
00:13:27.640 Quebec. 1.00
00:13:28.000 Take a look. 0.99
00:13:34.300 so she grabbed a keffiyeh and waved it over her head dancing front row manon masse the former
00:13:48.360 leader wearing one too friends in the gallery wearing theirs waving theirs al jazeera love
00:13:54.900 that clip that's their clip i just showed you a reporter asked her what it meant and here's what
00:14:00.580 She said, I am 100% Quebecois and 100% Palestinian.
00:14:05.140 I have two nations.
00:14:07.340 Yeah, no, you don't, sister.
00:14:08.880 It doesn't work that way. 0.90
00:14:10.960 Two nations.
00:14:12.000 I don't know. 1.00
00:14:13.060 Maybe it does.
00:14:13.920 It's certainly not the two most Canadians would think about in Quebec.
00:14:17.280 This isn't a one-off, though.
00:14:18.560 In 2024, she wore the keffiyeh in the chamber to demand Quebec close its trade office in Tel Aviv. 0.99
00:14:24.880 Of course, you know, cut off the Jews. 0.87
00:14:26.940 And then she gave her speech, and the speech was about France. 0.98
00:14:31.440 France is burning right now, by the way.
00:14:33.520 Saturday, riots in cities across the country.
00:14:35.800 The 143-year-old city hall in Limoges was gutted by fire, burnt to the ground.
00:14:42.420 The roof caved in.
00:14:43.240 30,000 rioters in Marseille.
00:14:46.920 Paris has been under curfew.
00:14:49.540 So here's what the leader of Quebec's left, the Keffia lady,
00:14:53.660 had to say about that to the new premier on her first date. 0.96
00:14:57.080 La nouvelle jeunesse se lève partout dans le monde.
00:15:00.720 Le mouvement étudiant en France prend de l'ampleur.
00:15:03.720 Les jeunes Espagnols se soulèvent contre la crise du logement
00:15:06.980 et d'autres et d'autres jeunes un peu partout se soulèvent aujourd'hui.
00:15:11.120 Cette colère de la jeunesse doit nous alerter au Québec.
00:15:15.740 Nous avons le devoir de prendre soin des jeunes et de leur avenir.
00:15:20.140 Nous avons aussi les moyens de le faire en répartissant mieux la richesse
00:15:24.800 parce que de la richesse il y en a au Québec.
00:15:27.080 En utilisant les leviers de l'État pour assurer le droit au logement,
00:15:32.420 le droit à une éducation publique, gratuite et de qualité,
00:15:37.000 et le droit à la dignité.
00:15:40.260 On peut, ensemble, apporter les changements que nous souhaitons pour le futur du Québec,
00:15:46.440 parce que c'est encore et toujours possible.
00:15:49.780 The anger of the young must alert us in Québec.
00:15:53.540 Le Devoir says reporters asked her over and over to condemn the violence
00:15:56.960 she would not. Finally, after being pressed, she allowed that, of course we don't want things
00:16:03.500 burning everywhere. Is that a condemnation? I didn't see the condemnation part in that
00:16:09.920 condemnation. But her message to PSPP was, quote, it must alert us to prevent violence
00:16:16.540 in our society. We must invest. What? Think about what that is. That's not a warning. That's a
00:16:22.520 That's a threat. That's a shakedown. Nice province you've got here. Shame if it caught fire. Pay up.
00:16:29.280 More money for the unions. More money for the public sector. More money for, I don't know,
00:16:33.300 Palestinian activists. More money for migrants. Immigration up to $70,000 a year. Double what PSPP 0.95
00:16:38.820 wants. Or else you might get a limogne. And she said it on day one. She said she'll, quote,
00:16:45.980 hound the new government. No blank check. She said she'll oppose, quote, any measure that breaks
00:16:52.080 with the tradition of welcome, as in reducing immigration. She'll oppose it. She gave him
00:16:57.520 until Wednesday to cough up emergency money for homelessness. That's today. Here's the math. PSPP
00:17:03.320 has 59 seats in their legislature. A majority is 63. He's short, so he has to do a deal with
00:17:11.020 someone who has at least four seats. The liberals have 40, and Charles Millard has already said no
00:17:16.820 cooperation on a referendum duem has 19 seats and gazelle has nine so the premier of quebec has
00:17:24.780 actually three ways he can get his majority i guess he could just do it vote by vote um
00:17:29.820 i think he's got a choice to make duem is 19 or the cafe is nine by the way here's what gazelle
00:17:38.520 thinks of alberta last year when pspp was praising danielle smith she was asked the same question
00:17:43.660 and she said, quote, I hadn't thought of Albertans as a people. And then I want a free Palestine. I
00:17:49.480 want a free Quebec. A free Palestine, a free Quebec. Alberta didn't make the list. So that's 0.90
00:17:56.040 Quebec this week. Two Quebecks really in one room. The good guys won, but the bad guys were right 1.00
00:18:01.020 there. You know, one of the Quebecers was talking about a straitjacket and a Muslim brotherhood and
00:18:09.340 schools that are overflowing. And he reaches out to Alberta. I like that, Quebecker. The other one
00:18:13.340 dances with the keffia and tells the premier that if he doesn't spend money, the cities are going to
00:18:17.880 burn. Albertans, you just got the most important ally you had in 50 years. He doesn't speak your
00:18:23.200 language. He wants to leave the country. He'll probably never campaign for you, but take the
00:18:27.640 meeting anyways. He's an ally because the alternative is already in the building and
00:18:32.200 she's wearing and waving a scarf. Stay with us for more. 0.61
00:18:43.340 Hey, welcome back. You know, we've got a team in Australia. I like to call it a one-man army,
00:18:51.100 Abiyamini, but there's actually three of them down there. Benji, his videographer and editor,
00:18:54.840 and Rakshan, who's just doing amazing things. Now, they really are so effective down there.
00:18:59.660 I mean, it's a small team, but we do support them here from Canada. And boy, they're on a roll.
00:19:06.120 Things are moving in Australia, by the way. And just like Nigel Farage is leading the polls in
00:19:12.340 the UK. And Marine Le Pen is leading the polls in France. Down under Pauline Hanson with One Nation
00:19:19.060 who's been marginalized by the regime media for decades. She is in many polls in the lead. So
00:19:24.840 very exciting stuff. Anyways, I want to share with you the latest from Avi Down Under. Here,
00:19:29.960 take a look. Just six weeks before the Victorian state election, the Liberal Party suddenly
00:19:36.940 disendorsed one of its last remaining outspoken conservatives despite endorsing him almost a year
00:19:43.640 ago. Now a party insider is breaking his silence for the first time about what really happened
00:19:49.320 behind the scenes. So something quite unprecedented just occurred. The Liberal Party's candidate for
00:19:54.840 Croydon, Grant Hutchinson, was just disendorsed. Now I can tell you confidently that he had no
00:20:01.580 idea that this was going to happen. Just got a phone call and told, you're no longer the candidate,
00:20:06.940 you've been disendorsed and you have no right of reply. In the 20 plus years that I've been a member
00:20:12.460 of the Liberal Party I've never seen this happen just to get a phone call and not have natural
00:20:17.760 justice occur not have any right of reply it's just you know the Liberal Party what this says
00:20:23.680 the Liberal Party is just no longer a home for Conservatives let alone Conservative candidates.
00:20:29.500 But why are you saying that when they're telling us that the reason that they've
00:20:33.040 disendorsed him is because of this pending legal matter. So what does that have to do with the
00:20:38.320 fact that he's a conservative? So when it comes to the legal matter, that was something that was
00:20:43.220 known well in advance to the pre-selection convention. So the Liberal Party has a vetting
00:20:49.580 process. And because of all the issues they've had with, you know, federal MPs having dual
00:20:53.940 citizenship, etc, etc, they're now very, very strict about vetting people. So when it came to
00:20:59.960 Grant. They had him disclose anything that was possibly going to be embarrassing to the party.
00:21:06.740 And of course, that included the legal case, which was in the public domain to some extent.
00:21:11.860 So he was very upfront about what was going on with that. They went through that process. They
00:21:16.480 said it didn't prevent him from standing for pre-selection and being pre-selected as a candidate.
00:21:21.700 And by the way, the court case is nothing sinister. He's a lawyer. Actually, he's a senior
00:21:26.320 lawyer that has his own law firm Hutchinson Legal the court case is a partnership dispute
00:21:31.340 between Grant and some of his partners which is the I think the first dispute he's had in 30 years
00:21:38.440 very common in law firms so nothing sinister again the court action is action he has brought
00:21:43.340 not that's been brought against him he's actually initiated the court action to help protect his
00:21:49.400 reputation because obviously the law firm is in his name Hutchinson Legal and the reputation of
00:21:53.660 wife who was part of the law firm so when they actually had the convention they then decided oh
00:21:59.740 we're going to say this to the convention and this comes to my other point which is the party is now
00:22:04.780 being run by the like moderate faction um they control the liberal party so they didn't want
00:22:12.700 grant to be the candidate to begin with um actually he was their worst nightmare as a candidate being
00:22:19.740 pre-selected so they wanted to do everything possible to stop him from being pre-selected
00:22:24.140 so they brought that up at the convention even though they brought it up he was still elected
00:22:29.260 in the first round at the convention um so that usually there was there was two other candidates
00:22:33.900 and usually there's a bit of back and forth and then you know the final two and then the person
00:22:37.760 with most votes gets elected grant was elected with the majority so there wasn't any back and
00:22:41.560 forth at all um and he was then the candidate for quoting now we're almost at the election
00:22:46.920 and then he gets a call and told basically the same reason that you know which is this legal
00:22:54.500 issue that we knew about at the beginning and which was raised at your convention to the
00:22:59.740 membership that voted for you is the reason why you're going to be disendorsed and also you have
00:23:05.520 no right of reply this is just the decision we've made like it's completely absurd and it's not a
00:23:11.900 real reason what happened was a literally a factional hit it was the moderate grouping
00:23:17.340 getting rid of a conservative candidate and putting in toby woolridge is everyone knows
00:23:24.260 like a heavy hitter in that factional grouping you keep saying moderate i think yeah sorry because
00:23:28.900 i've been in that bubble for so long i use terminology that others in that say bubble
00:23:32.920 would understand but typically parties are left and right and typically the liberal party builds
00:23:38.640 itself as a broad church, which means it has people that have more left-leaning views and
00:23:43.600 some people that are more right-leaning. This time round, though, in the pre-selections that
00:23:48.420 have occurred, there hasn't been any crumbs left to the people on the right. There have all been
00:23:54.000 left-leaning candidates that have been pre-selected, especially when it's come down to an
00:23:59.480 admin pre-selection, which means the executive group of the Liberal Party just decides who's
00:24:03.820 going to be the candidate, not the membership. But it's now become a little bit more complicated
00:24:08.640 than that. With Grant's disendorsement, it actually requires a two-thirds vote from the
00:24:12.860 executive. That means some people who were elected as the so-called conservative faction
00:24:19.000 or the right faction's representatives would have had to have voted to disendorse Grant.
00:24:24.620 Actually, I can tell you only one person in that executive didn't vote to disendorse.
00:24:29.280 And the reason for that is that the right and left in Victoria, I can't speak for other states, but in Victoria, isn't actually a right and left on the basis of where you stand on social issues.
00:24:42.320 So the leader of the right faction in Victoria is supposedly Bev McArthur, who herself is pro-abortion, not pro-life.
00:24:52.180 And her husband, Stuart McArthur, actually was in the left faction in federal parliament.
00:24:56.700 So in the federal parliament, they have a dinner called the Night on the Right and the Black Hand Dinner.
00:25:02.000 I know, it sounds quite sinister. I mean, it's pretty crazy. They're not hiding it at all.
00:25:07.340 But yeah, and yeah, I used to go to the Black Hand Dinner before she was, she became a state MP.
00:25:14.640 And now all of a sudden, the leader of the Conservatives. It's actually quite wild.
00:25:19.280 So the people that did support the candidate, are the members that voted for him and even donors that have backed his campaign already, are they believing the Liberal Party's official line?
00:25:32.880 And if they're unhappy with the fact that he's been swapped for a left, essentially a left-wing candidate, is there a recourse?
00:25:43.340 Can they get, if they've put money into it, can they get refunds and do any of them want it?
00:25:47.740 yeah it's um yeah it's pretty pretty crazy situation so um people from what i am hearing
00:25:56.120 and what i'm reading they really don't understand what's happened um they can't believe what's
00:26:01.760 happened um which is why this message is important uh the money that people have put in grants been
00:26:08.740 the candidate since last year like it's been a while plenty of people have put money in not just
00:26:14.640 money. They've put time in volunteering. You know, they've gone and campaigned on the basis that
00:26:21.060 this is the man that they're standing behind. That is something that you'll never get back.
00:26:27.340 And I know people personally who have now reached out to the party and asked for their money back
00:26:33.900 on the basis that they weren't supporting, you know, Toby Woolridge, who's the current candidate,
00:26:38.580 but they were supporting Grant because he was a conservative. And the party has just simply
00:26:42.900 come back and said, sorry, no refunds. I mean, it's tens of thousands of dollars that have been
00:26:47.820 donated to his campaign that the Liberal Party is essentially stealing. I mean, how desperate are
00:26:54.580 they for, you know, this money? If they really want Toby there, surely he can raise his own funds
00:26:59.360 and rather than stealing the funds that were raised for another candidate.
00:27:03.240 Is that even legal? Has anyone sought advice as to if you donated for one candidate?
00:27:09.460 So it's an interesting legal argument because, yeah, some people have raised the most, I guess, the one that's been raised that I found the most compelling is that you as a candidate don't have a donation cap.
00:27:22.760 So Grant has definitely given of himself personally to the party.
00:27:26.720 And with the Victorian donation laws, you're only able to donate a certain amount of money.
00:27:31.580 Grant has donated more than that amount.
00:27:33.900 And that's only possible because he's the candidate.
00:27:35.980 Now, he's not the candidate anymore, but the Liberal Party still has his money. Go figure.
00:27:41.880 I guess, why is it important for people now in the lead up to the election to know any of this?
00:27:47.540 So I, like I said, been a member of the Liberal Party for a long time. I used to think it was a numbers game.
00:27:54.280 And then there was, you know, two major parties that formed government and the Liberal Party aligned more with the conservative values that I hold.
00:28:04.160 It's now the case where that's not what it is.
00:28:08.360 You know, I can say that I've been through the times when, you know, 0.78
00:28:12.000 OzCon's where a thing, Family First, Australian Christians,
00:28:15.860 and I looked at those parties and, you know, yes, they all aligned better with where I was,
00:28:21.280 but they weren't really a realistic option.
00:28:25.480 I still thought there was hope for the Liberal Party,
00:28:28.500 and maybe that was because I'd been in it for so long and I was holding on.
00:28:33.160 But with something like this, just something, like I said, I have never seen in the 20 years
00:28:37.620 that I've been a member occurring, where essentially there have been no conservative
00:28:43.220 candidates pre-selected, like not even in like seats where they're not going to win.
00:28:48.680 They didn't even give us the crumbs.
00:28:50.440 I can't see any hope for this party.
00:28:53.260 And people that I'm talking to on the ground, liberals, volunteers, they're all changing
00:28:59.120 their minds.
00:28:59.700 They're all changing their views.
00:29:01.160 They're all saying, you know what, I think this is the time.
00:29:05.040 We're going to move our vote.
00:29:06.760 We're going to vote One Nation.
00:29:08.760 So why, if it's so dire, and you're not, why are you?
00:29:14.000 20 years is a long time, right?
00:29:16.220 And I've always been a believer that we need good people in every institution, not just
00:29:23.980 political parties, in the universities, in the schools.
00:29:28.820 You know, they're still good people.
00:29:30.700 in the Labour Party? Not many. Maybe you can count them on one hand, but there are still a few good
00:29:35.900 people there. Maybe because they've had a long history there, their whole positions that they
00:29:41.680 wouldn't otherwise hold. I knew there were good people in certain political offices even that I
00:29:47.540 was friends with that were conservative on the down low, and they could use those positions to
00:29:52.380 influence. I guess the balancing act is when do you compromise on your values to stay in that
00:29:56.540 position. And when you say, okay, now it's time to leave. The reason I am still in the Liberal
00:30:03.800 Party is because, probably because of those connections that I have, that insight that I have,
00:30:11.120 that if I was to leave, I would no longer have access to or as much influence in. And I feel
00:30:20.260 light, I can still work and support parties like One Nation behind the scenes while still
00:30:28.460 being there for the few remaining good people in the grassroots of the Liberal Party.
00:30:35.460 From all of that, I'm taking it like you're in the party to still work and try to fix
00:30:42.460 or support those that want to do the right thing or that are conservative, but you're
00:30:47.540 not voting for the Liberals this election.
00:30:50.260 Yeah, no chance. No chance. I don't see how I could vote for the Liberals in any seat in this state, to be completely frank. There's, yeah, there's not a single one where I would put the Liberals number one on the ballot.
00:31:05.660 But, like I said, you know, there are still some good people in the party and we need people that are going to provide, I guess, the conservative movement in general in Victoria, intel about what's happening in all of the political parties.
00:31:19.000 And that's where I see myself in this.
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00:31:53.960 Hey, welcome back.
00:31:54.960 Your letters to me.
00:31:56.460 Goom Goom says, Alberta needs to have a strong and well-funded independence movement.
00:32:01.320 I think you're right.
00:32:02.380 it was woefully underfunded. I think it was outspent 100 to 1. And what's incredible is
00:32:08.960 that it never fell below 25%. It was at 25% in the polls the whole year. Brits58 says UCP members
00:32:17.460 supposedly most support independence. So why didn't voters for independence win? Well, because
00:32:23.220 if Danielle Smith is at about 45% in the polls, let's say, and, you know, if half of her members
00:32:31.700 or for independence, that works out to about 25%
00:32:37.360 of the general population.
00:32:38.860 I think her members did vote yes, or at least many of them.
00:32:46.980 Sarando One says, Smith needs to fire the head of Elections Alberta. 0.56
00:32:51.040 No integrity.
00:32:51.900 I was shocked by how Elections Alberta handled everything
00:32:55.700 and mainly giving a free pass to that huge dark money operation
00:32:59.760 that Thomas Lukaschuk was operating.
00:33:02.940 And it was only because Rebel News took him to the court
00:33:04.740 did they finally say,
00:33:06.180 okay, now he has to start accounting.
00:33:08.420 Just outrageous.
00:33:10.200 What do you think of those Quebec leaders, though?
00:33:11.800 I thought they were very interesting.
00:33:13.800 Until tomorrow,
00:33:15.320 on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:33:17.460 to you at home,
00:33:18.840 good night,
00:33:19.960 and keep fighting for freedom.