Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Should NBA players be able to speak out about human rights？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. A bit of a change of pace today.

00:00:02.460 I don't want to talk about the pandemic just for five minutes.

00:00:04.680 I want to talk about a surprising spokesman against Chinese authoritarianism.

00:00:11.780 And he's from the NBA.

00:00:14.000 He's a Muslim man himself.

00:00:16.700 And he's upset about China's treatment of the Uyghurs in Xinjiang province.

00:00:22.100 And he just won't shut up.

00:00:23.920 And Xi Jinping hates it.

00:00:26.520 And I love it.

00:00:27.620 Anyway, I'll show you who he is and what he said next.

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00:00:53.580 All right, here's today's show.

00:00:57.620 Tonight, should NBA players be able to speak out about human rights?

00:01:14.020 It's October 22nd, and this is the Ezra LeVance Show.

00:01:16.960 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:22.680 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:26.760 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:32.620 For a whole year, professional sports was mobilized against the government of the United States.

00:01:42.800 I think it was actually a partisan thing.

00:01:44.800 I think it was more anti-Trump than anti-America.

00:01:47.200 But there's an awful lot of overlap between those two things, am I right?

00:01:50.500 I mean, let's be honest.

00:01:51.700 If you see an American flag on someone's private home in the United States, or even just someone wearing a U.S. flag lapel pin, I think we can all guess which party they're with, am I right?

00:02:01.940 I mean, take it from Barack Obama himself, who officially stopped wearing the American flag pin and made a public statement about it.

00:02:09.380 It's one thing to not positively fly the flag, but it's another thing to protest when someone else does fly it.

00:02:16.620 The whole idea of taking a knee was a way of defying the national anthem, of disparaging it, protesting it, of a passive-aggressive war against anyone in the stands or anyone watching at home on TV who feels patriotic.

00:02:29.280 It was the teams versus their own fans.

00:02:32.080 It was stupid, but it was about politics, and it was about dislodging Trump.

00:02:36.260 It never used to be that way.

00:02:39.280 Remember this?

00:02:40.140 Two of them.

00:02:41.040 All right.

00:02:45.240 I'm not sure what he's doing out there.

00:02:48.060 It looks like he's going to burn a flag, and Rick Monday runs and takes it away from him.

00:02:54.000 And so Monday, I think a guy was going to set fire to the American flag.

00:02:58.300 Can you imagine that?

00:03:00.540 Yeah, well, times have changed.

00:03:02.200 Anti-Americanism infected the heart of the most American of institutions.

00:03:06.440 I mean, the NFL, for crying out loud.

00:03:08.300 Even NASCAR.

00:03:09.740 It was clearly a psy-op of some sort, a psychological operation to demoralize people.

00:03:15.400 And the leader of it was one of the luckiest, most privileged millionaires in America, a half-white, half-black man raised by a white family named Colin Kaepernick.

00:03:25.940 And I tell you his race and his family background to show you how his own life and success was the result of racial harmony, not racial division, of meritocracy and unity, not division and antagonism.

00:03:40.240 But what a sullen, spoiled brat he has become, because he wasn't quite as good at football as he thought.

00:03:46.800 He wasn't getting the success he thought he deserved.

00:03:49.020 So this would more than make up for it.

00:03:52.040 Normally, endorsement deals come to the best athletes.

00:03:55.220 That's not him.

00:03:56.060 But he could get an endorsement deal for demeaning America.

00:04:00.320 He was the best at that.

00:04:01.460 Look at this ad.

00:04:04.380 So you just weren't allowed to criticize him while he criticized you.

00:04:08.520 That would be racist.

00:04:10.300 We had to listen to the millionaires tell us how unjust the system was.

00:04:14.800 But it was a bit odd, because while they never ran out of disparaging things to say about America, they sure seemed quiet about the NBA's new home.

00:04:24.660 I'm moving from the NFL to the NBA here, the basketball league.

00:04:28.420 Communist China.

00:04:29.960 Here's LeBron James telling a fellow NBA leader to shut up about China.

00:04:34.500 We all talk about this freedom of speech.

00:04:37.220 Yes, we all do have freedom of speech.

00:04:39.060 But at times, there are ramifications for the negative that can happen when you're not thinking about others.

00:04:45.360 You're only thinking about yourself.

00:04:46.740 So I don't believe I don't want to get into a word or sentence feud with Darryl, with Darryl Morey.

00:04:56.360 But I believe he wasn't educated on the situation at hand.

00:05:00.140 And he spoke.

00:05:02.240 And so many people could have been harmed, not only financially, but physically, emotionally, spiritually.

00:05:08.960 So just be careful what we tweet and we say and what we do, even though, yes, we do have freedom of speech.

00:05:16.040 But there can be a lot of negative that comes with that, too.

00:05:19.660 I mean, there's a lot of money over there in China, right?

00:05:21.980 Just shut up and get educated, right?

00:05:25.020 That's odd.

00:05:26.880 But look at this.

00:05:27.480 I mean, would you look at this?

00:05:29.420 He's Enos Kanter, born in Switzerland, to a Turkish mom and dad, smart man, runs in the family.

00:05:35.060 His dad's a doctor and a university professor.

00:05:36.860 His mom's a nurse.

00:05:37.780 He's a smart guy.

00:05:38.580 He's also almost seven feet tall.

00:05:40.920 Good athlete.

00:05:41.540 Moved to America.

00:05:42.220 Played for a bunch of teams.

00:05:43.140 Utah Jazz, New York Knicks, and he's with the Boston Celtics.

00:05:46.120 Now he's 29 years old.

00:05:48.120 He's a Muslim, as most Turks are. 0.99

00:05:50.560 He went to an Islamic school, but he has criticized the Islamist president there, Erdogan.

00:05:56.740 He actually called Erdogan the Hitler of our century.

00:06:01.920 That's pretty tough talk.

00:06:03.360 It won't surprise you that Turkey canceled its passport.

00:06:06.300 Anyways, you could say he fits right in with the NBA, right?

00:06:09.500 People speaking out, taking a stand, speaking out against injustice.

00:06:13.720 That's what the NBA is all about, right?

00:06:16.340 And he's Muslim, and that's one of his motivating philosophies.

00:06:20.160 It's actually why he criticized Erdogan.

00:06:24.440 Well, would you look at this?

00:06:26.780 Dear Brutal Dictator Xi Jinping and the Chinese government, Tibet belongs to the Tibetan people. 1.00

00:06:32.160 Free Tibet.

00:06:33.540 I like that.

00:06:34.680 He sounded reasonable in this video, I think.

00:06:37.400 Here, take a listen to this video.

00:06:39.620 My message to the Chinese government is free Tibet.

00:06:44.780 Tibet belongs to Tibetans.

00:06:47.400 I'm here to add my voice and speak out about what is happening in Tibet.

00:06:51.520 Under the Chinese government's brutal rule, Tibetan people's basic rights and freedoms are non-existent.

00:06:59.780 They are not allowed to study and learn their language and culture freely.

00:07:04.400 They are not allowed to travel freely.

00:07:06.900 They are not allowed to access information freely.

00:07:10.000 For more than 70 years, Tibetan monks, nuns, intellectuals, writers, poets, community leaders, activists, and many more have been detained, sent to political re-education classes, subject to torture, lengthy interrogations, and even been executed simply for exercising the freedom that you and I take for granted.

00:07:39.100 There have been more than 5,000 political prisoners in Tibet in Tibet in the last 25 years.

00:07:45.440 5,000!

00:07:47.160 Did you know that simply owning a photo of the Dalai Lama in Tibet is grounds for arrest?

00:07:55.040 Even flying the Tibetan national flag could get you arrested.

00:07:59.580 I say, shame on the Chinese government.

00:08:02.540 The Chinese dictatorship is erasing Tibetan identity and culture.

00:08:07.320 The cultural genocide in Tibet is so stifling that more than 150 Tibetan people have burned themselves alive, hoping that such a horrific act of sacrifice will raise awareness and attention towards the ongoing abuses within Tibet.

00:08:27.380 After learning all of this, I cannot stay silent.

00:08:31.380 I stand with my Tibetan brothers and sisters, and I support their calls for freedom.

00:08:37.880 The communist ideology of China has been around for only about 100 years, but Buddhist, civilization, ideology, and philosophy has been around for thousands of years.

00:08:52.260 Only the Tibetan people should decide the future of Tibet, 100%. 1.00

00:08:57.060 Tibet belongs to the Tibetan people, and I hope and believe Tibet will achieve independence.

00:09:04.840 Brutal dictator of China, Xi Jinping, I have a message for you and your henchmen.

00:09:11.180 I will say it again, again, and again, loud and clear.

00:09:16.620 I hope you hear me.

00:09:18.520 Free Tibet.

00:09:19.840 Free Tibet.

00:09:21.060 Free Tibet.

00:09:21.760 I think he sounded fairly well informed.

00:09:24.140 I'm not going to make him my go-to scholar on the subject, but he was earnest.

00:09:29.080 I think he was more substantive than just taking a knee, literally, whatever that means.

00:09:33.520 I don't really know.

00:09:34.900 I mean, I know that when Tim Tebow, the Christian player, took a knee in prayer and football, he was punished for it. 0.86

00:09:40.260 I guess that's the wrong kind of knee or something.

00:09:42.480 But here's Enos Cantor making a tweet that sounds thoughtful, even if you don't agree with it.

00:09:47.980 And China is mad at him, very, very mad. 0.79

00:09:53.200 Celtics blacked out in China after Cantor's Tibet comments.

00:09:57.080 League missed about $400 million U.S. during last season's fallout with China.

00:10:01.300 Chinese broadcaster and NBA partner Tencent is not showing current or archived Boston Celtics games on its platforms.

00:10:07.920 In apparent response to comments that Celtics Senator Enos Cantor made to advocate Tibetan independence.

00:10:13.340 Cantor is part of a series of social media posts, also called Chinese President Xi Jinping a dictator.

00:10:20.640 Cantor did not play in Boston's Stephen's opening, 138-134 loss to New York on Wednesday night,

00:10:25.380 the game that was not shown on the streaming services that typically broadcast most NBA games to millions in China.

00:10:31.320 The NBA had no immediate comment, and the Celtics were not practicing Thursday.

00:10:35.120 It was also not immediately clear how long Tencent's plans to not air the Celtics would last.

00:10:39.020 Ah, that's so great!

00:10:42.880 They had $400 million!

00:10:45.140 And look at these shoes!

00:10:48.740 Good for him.

00:10:51.020 More than 150 Tibetan people have burned themselves alive,

00:10:54.300 hoping that such an act would raise more awareness about Tibet.

00:10:57.340 I stand with my Tibetan brothers and sisters, and I support their calls for freedom.

00:11:01.060 Free Tibet, freedom shoes.

00:11:03.660 I think those might be homemade shoes, I'm not sure.

00:11:05.680 Something tells me Nike did not make them, certainly not in their sweatshops in China.

00:11:11.640 I say this young lad has more fight in him than, oh, say, the entire U.S. foreign affairs establishment.

00:11:18.660 And he's just getting started here.

00:11:20.700 Let me play the latest from this young Turk. 0.99

00:11:23.020 Here's another tweet from him.

00:11:24.880 It's about being Muslim, and other Muslims in sport, and real Islamophobia, concentration camps and labor camps,

00:11:32.140 and eradicating Uyghur Muslim culture and identity and history. 0.90

00:11:36.240 Listen to this.

00:11:38.300 There is a genocide happening right now.

00:11:41.060 Right now, as I speak this message.

00:11:43.300 This is all happening right now to more than 1.8 million Uyghurs in the Xinjiang region in northern western China.

00:12:06.820 Uyghurs are a Turkic Muslim ethnic group native to the Uyghur region.

00:12:11.740 The Chinese government has been taking sweeping measures to crack down on the Uyghur people,

00:12:18.100 simply because they embrace their own religion, their own culture, language, history, and identity.

00:12:26.920 The Uyghur region has become an open-air prison, a surveillance state, 0.97

00:12:32.300 where freedoms are non-existent for the Uyghur people.

00:12:35.380 The Chinese government has sent Uyghurs, along with Kazakhs, Tajiks, and other Muslim groups,

00:12:43.120 to concentration camps for simply applying for a passport, for texting someone overseas,

00:12:49.880 or for believing in anything that does not align with the Chinese Communist Party's agenda.

00:12:56.200 Anyone and everyone, athletes, doctors, poets, intellectuals, musicians, community leaders,

00:13:04.940 you name it, are currently suffering inside these camps,

00:13:09.040 where the Chinese government is conducting unimaginable human rights abuses and crimes against humanity. 0.78

00:13:15.480 All of us must spread the word and call on the Chinese government for free the Uyghur people.

00:13:22.060 It is so disappointing that the governments and leaders of Muslim-majority countries are staying silent

00:13:29.140 while my Muslim brothers and sisters are getting killed, raped, and tortured.

00:13:35.320 I am talking about you, Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan, Saudi King Salman,

00:13:42.780 United Arab Emirates Mohammed Bin Zaid, Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi.

00:13:49.900 It's shameful and sad how you have decided to prioritize money and business with China over human rights. 0.86

00:13:57.360 You call yourself Muslims, but you are just using that for show. 1.00

00:14:02.520 You simply do not care about people.

00:14:05.840 And this goes to fellow Muslim athletes as well.

00:14:08.820 Why are you staying silent?

00:14:09.980 Mohamed Salah, Karim Abdul-Jabbar, Amir Khan, say something, do something, speak up.

00:14:18.420 Your silence and your inaction is complicit.

00:14:21.600 To those of you watching who care about human dignity, please join me in spreading the word.

00:14:28.540 What is happening to the Uyghurs is one of the worst human rights abuses in the world today. 1.00

00:14:34.280 We cannot stay silent.

00:14:35.500 But heartless dictator of China, Xi Jinping, and the Communist Party of China,

00:14:41.760 I'm calling you out right now in front of the whole world.

00:14:46.480 Close down the slave labor camps and free the Uyghur people. 1.00

00:14:50.500 Stop the genocide now.

00:14:52.480 I love who he calls out there.

00:14:54.120 Isn't it true?

00:14:55.320 Why do Muslim world leaders so rarely call out China?

00:14:58.520 Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, even the Taliban.

00:15:00.720 You know China has basically absorbed Afghanistan as America fled, right?

00:15:06.740 I like this guy.

00:15:07.920 I like the fact that he hasn't backed down.

00:15:09.760 In fact, he's doubled down.

00:15:11.640 What will they do to him?

00:15:13.860 He's costing his fellow athletes millions of dollars.

00:15:18.000 He could cost the league billions.

00:15:21.360 But hey, as Nike told us, when they were backing an American masher,

00:15:27.720 believe in something, even if it costs you everything.

00:15:32.220 Am I right?

00:15:33.960 Stay with us for more.

00:15:51.360 Hey, welcome back.

00:16:20.600 One of the things that's so frustrating to me as we look at this civil liberties crisis

00:16:24.340 and this health crisis, and by health crisis, I don't necessarily mean just the coronavirus.

00:16:29.440 I mean the forced vaccinations and the growing health crisis that that seems to be causing,

00:16:34.780 at least amongst, for example, young men who are vulnerable to myocarditis and pericarditis too.

00:16:41.220 Heretofore rare inflammations of the heart that are now unfortunately commonplace.

00:16:46.400 I keep wondering, where's the opposition?

00:16:48.020 Every political party in the country, other than the PPC, which has no seats, supports lockdownism.

00:16:58.300 Aaron O'Toole, the federal conservatives, hasn't said a word against it.

00:17:01.720 Whether you're conservative, liberal, or NDP, you seem to be speaking and acting in lockstep.

00:17:06.520 There are a couple of individual MPs, MPPs, and the like, but as soon as they speak out,

00:17:14.700 they're hounded from their parties in the government of Ontario, which is nominally a conservative party.

00:17:22.120 There are a number of MPPs who have been thrown out of the party for questioning lockdownism in the greater Toronto area.

00:17:30.920 That includes Roman Baber, Belinda Karajalios a bit further out, and Randy Hillier in eastern Ontario.

00:17:37.960 He joins us now via Skype.

00:17:39.860 Randy, good to see you again.

00:17:41.440 Nice to catch up with you.

00:17:42.540 How are you?

00:17:42.920 Well, other than living in a communist country, everything else is okay, as whether it is living under tyranny in an authoritarian government

00:17:55.100 is not conducive to my understanding and expectations of what a free country is.

00:18:03.500 So, but I would, but otherwise everything's good, but I would just also add, it's not just Ontario.

00:18:09.960 We saw elected members in the Nova Scotia caucus getting kicked out.

00:18:15.060 We saw elected members in the UCP caucus in Alberta also getting kicked out for speaking out against lockdownism.

00:18:24.000 This is indicative of our electoral system and the dysfunctional state of our democracy without question everywhere across the country.

00:18:36.160 Oh, you're so right.

00:18:37.260 And even individual city councillors or the odd mayor, even in a small place, they get hounded out.

00:18:43.780 It's, I've never seen such discipline, and I won't even say party discipline because it's much beyond just parties.

00:18:49.260 And the discipline applies to the courts and the media and to any institution of any sort.

00:18:55.520 I find it terrifying.

00:18:57.480 One thing that I note in Ontario, I mentioned some names of your colleagues as MPPs, and there was another deputy speaker, I believe, who was thrown out because, yeah,

00:19:07.620 because he didn't say the right things on vaccines.

00:19:09.900 It seems to me like there's a critical mass in Ontario, but you guys are not getting together, are you?

00:19:16.340 I mean, there's what, four or five MPPs.

00:19:18.400 I'm not saying that's big enough to make a party, although I suppose it could be.

00:19:22.560 You would immediately have more seats than Maxime Bernier does federally.

00:19:25.820 Are you guys ever going to get it together, put aside whatever differences there are, and focus on the commonalities?

00:19:31.300 I hope so.

00:19:32.600 I hope so.

00:19:33.300 Listen, there's been lots of discussions going on for a long time.

00:19:36.580 But as of yet, we haven't found the promised land, and we haven't found that common ground, even though this is far greater than any one individual's political career or political aspirations.

00:19:57.220 You know, we ought to recognize that this is the future or lack of future for our children and grandchildren.

00:20:06.240 And it's, you know, yes, it's the disaffected members who have been kicked out of caucus.

00:20:15.520 But let's also not forget that there's still a great number of members in the caucus who are opposed to this lockdownism, to this authoritarian measures.

00:20:27.620 But they continue to support Doug Ford and his government in Ontario.

00:20:33.140 So there are more discussions going on.

00:20:36.100 Hopefully, we can get our act together soon and offer up to the people of Ontario a viable alternative to lockdownism in Ontario.

00:20:45.860 Well, time's wasting.

00:20:46.960 I'm not sure when the next Ontario election is thought to be scheduled for.

00:20:52.060 I'm sorry, I just don't know my electoral calendars provincially well enough to know that.

00:20:57.700 But let me make a prediction.

00:20:59.020 By the way, Randy, everyone knows I like you.

00:21:01.140 I'm a fan.

00:21:02.280 And I think you have been an important voice for liberty, for property rights, for common sense, for well predating the lockdown.

00:21:11.260 But here's my observation, as someone who's been following Canadian politics for a few decades, is that independence, running as an independent, is an extremely hard thing to win.

00:21:23.840 I mean, unless you have a unique story and you were wronged, like, for example, when John Nunziata was thrown out for opposing the GST.

00:21:33.680 Or there was an MLA, I think it was the one you mentioned, in Nova Scotia, who stood on a local issue.

00:21:39.560 Andre Arthur, who stood for free speech in Quebec.

00:21:42.180 But you can almost count on one hand's fingers the number of people who have won as independence.

00:21:48.840 It's just not how Canadians think when they go to vote.

00:21:51.880 So I think the four or five of you, Bolina Karajalios, yourself, Roman Baber, Rick Nichols, who, you know, I don't know if others will join.

00:22:04.000 I think you're all going to get wiped out as independents, no matter how good you are, if you don't, you know, put some water in your wine and pull it together. 0.96

00:22:12.380 I agree.

00:22:13.680 I agree with you, Ezra.

00:22:15.900 That's, there's no question about it, Dave.

00:22:17.740 To win as an independent in Ontario.

00:22:21.660 We haven't, the last time I believe we had an independent win in Ontario was 1995, or maybe 1990, Peter North down in southern Ontario.

00:22:31.520 Like, these are rare situations.

00:22:35.080 So I agree with you.

00:22:37.820 If you had a party, you could have a very simple platform.

00:22:41.540 You don't need 20 things in the platform.

00:22:43.240 The crisis of our age is on a handful of things.

00:22:47.960 And you could, you know, you could start to attract people.

00:22:52.800 You could sell memberships.

00:22:54.180 You could raise funds.

00:22:55.840 And I know I'm positively asking you to do it, but I just, I have noticed that there is no countervailing institution.

00:23:03.040 And yet you have the embryonic institution of a could-be, would-be party.

00:23:09.660 I just hope, I just hope you guys get it together.

00:23:11.960 I know how it is in politics.

00:23:13.120 Everyone wants to be the boss.

00:23:15.000 Everyone wants all the decisions to break their way.

00:23:17.880 But politics is also the art of the possible.

00:23:20.480 Putting, you know, can you guys find, you know, a Venn diagram.

00:23:24.200 Do you know what I mean by that?

00:23:25.160 It's that overlapping area in two circles.

00:23:28.680 You may not agree on everything, but if you can focus on the overlap, you got yourself a coalition.

00:23:34.480 I agree.

00:23:36.220 All right.

00:23:36.820 Well, it hasn't happened yet.

00:23:38.960 I'm going to continue to do everything I can to make it happen.

00:23:42.700 But it hasn't happened yet.

00:23:45.740 Well, I would ask you questions, but I know you probably wouldn't answer them publicly.

00:23:51.160 I would ask you when the last time is you spoke to Roman Baber?

00:23:53.680 When the last time you spoke to Belinda Karahelios?

00:23:56.180 I know her husband, Jim, you know, has a vision of a party called the New Blue Party.

00:24:02.020 And I think Roman Baber presents himself a leader, too.

00:24:04.900 Listen, I've talked to all those within the last few weeks, and some much sooner than that.

00:24:10.000 You know, like the conversations are happening, Ezra, you know, and like you and like many people in Ontario, we'd like to see a viable political option.

00:24:25.600 Like, we have to understand that this is a political crisis.

00:24:29.160 We're not in a health crisis.

00:24:31.100 It's never been a health crisis.

00:24:33.280 This is a cultural war that is under, that is in play rate at the moment.

00:24:38.760 This is a war against individual freedoms, individual responsibilities, a war against our families.

00:24:46.440 And we need to wake up and realize that this is not just some other political issue.

00:24:52.220 This is an actual war that if we do not stand up, if we do not find a way to fight back effectively, there will be no more freedom in our country.

00:25:04.600 Things are going to get much worse if we don't reassert that we're free people in a free country.

00:25:11.960 And, you know, that's the way I see it.

00:25:15.420 And I worked extensively with the PPC to win some seats in the federal election.

00:25:24.480 And you know this to be true, as well.

00:25:27.160 You know, I'll work with lots of different people.

00:25:29.780 I'll work with anybody on ending these lockdowns, ending this attack on our freedoms, ending this political crisis.

00:25:41.080 But, you know, it's lonely on the dance floor when you're only by yourself.

00:25:48.360 And we need to get a few more people on the dance floor, recognizing that this is not just a time for political theatrics.

00:26:03.480 It's not a time for political stunts.

00:26:05.900 It's a time to look at what is the greatest peril facing our country ever.

00:26:13.940 And it is this embrace of authoritarian government under the disguise of a virus.

00:26:25.420 Hey, Randy, I hope you can muster things and bring things together.

00:26:31.220 And I wish you good luck.

00:26:32.540 I want to talk about one more thing before we go.

00:26:34.360 I see you were tweeting an image of different young people who died so suddenly.

00:26:40.380 And young people generally don't die suddenly unless there's some shocking thing that happens.

00:26:45.900 Often, unfortunately, it's suicide or a car accident or some other act of violence.

00:26:51.380 But for a health crisis, like not a self-inflicted wound and not an accident, for young people to die, even especially athletes.

00:26:59.000 For example, there was a recent case of a University of Ottawa star football player who died.

00:27:04.780 You know, he was in the prime of health, probably one of the fittest people in the country.

00:27:08.220 And all these young people in a forced vaccine setting, often having to be vaccinated to go to university, all these young people dying so suddenly.

00:27:16.960 Now, it could be other things could be a coincidence.

00:27:19.640 I know this in terms of counting COVID deaths.

00:27:26.600 They throw everything in.

00:27:28.500 If you test it positive for COVID within 28 days of your death, they call that a COVID death no matter what you actually inspired from.

00:27:35.300 But in terms of vaccine injuries, it seems to have the opposite approach.

00:27:41.060 They won't count it unless they can absolutely say for sure it was a vaccine.

00:27:47.160 And I tell you, there's never been so much myocarditis or pericarditis amongst young people ever.

00:27:52.300 I show this graph here from Public Health Ontario that shows the young men are 50 times more likely to get that vaccine injury than are adults in their 80s who the vaccine is designed to protect.

00:28:08.160 I find it an upside down morality where old people are being sacrificed. 0.99

00:28:14.280 Sorry, are sacrificing the youth.

00:28:17.460 It's just so opposite of humanity.

00:28:19.460 Do you have any thoughts on that, Randy?

00:28:20.860 Yeah, so listen, we know that there has been a rash and a surge of these unexplained sudden deaths in young people in our province and in our country.

00:28:33.200 We've seen other countries, the Nordic countries and Iceland, have recognized this as well and have suspended or halted altogether some of these pharmaceutical injections in their countries because of this rash of fatalities.

00:28:50.100 And permanent, irreparable damage to one's heart with pericarditis and myocarditis.

00:28:59.020 So we know this.

00:29:00.620 We also know that the coroner, under the Coroner's Act of Ontario, the coroner has got a responsibility and an obligation and he or she can investigate any sudden or unexplained death.

00:29:16.800 But throughout all this, the coroner has failed to investigate any of these sudden unexplained deaths in our youth, in the youth of Ontario.

00:29:28.260 Today, I have issued a letter to OPP Commissioner Thomas Carrick outlining all these concerns and citing this significant rise of death in young people.

00:29:48.240 And I've asked the commissioner to look at the commissioner to look at the evidence that I've provided and initiate, it certainly appears to me on its face, Ezra, that there are grounds for criminal investigation into these rash of unexplained deaths in our youth.

00:30:07.520 So that I have sent that letter to the vitriol and the animosity that was on display.

00:30:17.160 When I first put that post out about 11 people that I collected information off the internet that seemed to be suspicious that they had all been vaccinated recently and either they died.

00:30:31.900 One young man was 14, another 17-year-old, a number of university students, some musicians, who have either died or are now suffering permanent paralysis and nonverbal in some cases as well.

00:30:49.960 And nobody is investigating.

00:30:52.020 This is an outrage, an absolute outrage that, and I don't know, you know, I can't say for certain, and that's what my post said was, you know, I'm not certain what is causing this.

00:31:07.020 But it seems and it appears that there may be a correlation or a contributing factor.

00:31:13.280 And it is the duty and the obligation of all of us, especially the coroner and our police services, that if people are dying suddenly and prematurely, and if it may be a result of a public policy, then we better damn well investigate it and protect the youth and not sacrifice them in the fashion that it appears that we're doing.

00:31:41.420 Well, I don't know that much about Doug Ford's OPP, but the little I do know suggests that it is just as political as Trudeau's RCMP.

00:31:52.080 So I'm not sure if you'll have any luck with them.

00:31:54.680 But if you do, please let us know.

00:31:56.760 Randy Hilliard, it's great to catch up with you.

00:31:59.040 Good luck out there.

00:32:00.000 You're one of the few good guys.

00:32:02.020 Well, thank you very much, Ezra.

00:32:03.380 But I understand the political interactions between the OPP and Doug Ford as well.

00:32:11.420 And the political interactions between our coroner's office and these things are these institutions must be arm's length.

00:32:18.720 But I've also sent that request out to every other chief of police in the province of Ontario who isn't quite as beholden to Doug Ford and the current government.

00:32:30.920 All right.

00:32:31.220 We'll leave it there, Randy.

00:32:32.180 Good luck.

00:32:33.480 Thank you.

00:32:34.340 There you have it.

00:32:34.800 Randy Hilliard, an independent member of the provincial parliament in Ontario.

00:32:38.880 Stay with us.

00:32:40.180 More ahead.

00:32:41.420 Hey, welcome back.

00:32:53.900 Your feedback.

00:32:54.620 Loretta Herzog says,

00:32:56.280 I was speaking with my 80-year-old aunt in Germany on the phone last weekend.

00:33:00.320 And she told me some places in France and Italy are denying people access to grocery stores if they haven't been vaccinated.

00:33:06.800 We are facing real evil.

00:33:08.140 Oh, it's either weeks away from being here or it is already here.

00:33:13.040 You've seen that case of someone being denied a kidney transplant.

00:33:16.880 They're not sick.

00:33:18.380 They just won't get the jab.

00:33:20.400 So they're basically being sentenced to death.

00:33:24.160 Another letter.

00:33:24.680 Where did listening to the experts get us 18 months later in this pandemic?

00:33:29.180 It's BS.

00:33:29.940 Enough with the parasitic establishment sucking the life out of the West.

00:33:34.600 Well, you know, as Richard Feynman says, science is the belief in the fallibility of the experts, the belief that the experts can get it wrong.

00:33:42.960 Science is a process of always challenging the hypothesis and doing tests and seeing if you can improve and find your way to the truth slowly but surely.

00:33:53.360 Science is not superstition and it's not religion.

00:33:56.940 It's not faith.

00:33:57.780 It's constantly testing and throwing out hypotheses and fixing them.

00:34:03.360 And surely we've learned so much over the last 18 months that we shouldn't be stuck in a rut.

00:34:08.160 That's not science.

00:34:09.460 That's, I don't know, good business for Pfizer.

00:34:12.960 One John Henry says, it's our born obligation to fight tyranny and hold politicians accountable.

00:34:19.160 When politicians and health authorities start being charged and convicted, liberty will be restored.

00:34:24.740 Well, I don't think that the criminal or a police response is the right one.

00:34:31.540 I think we need a political response.

00:34:33.900 In some cases, I think we need a legal response.

00:34:37.040 The problem here is not something that police should solve either way.

00:34:40.700 I don't want police to arrest health bureaucrats any more than I want police to arrest anti-lockdown protesters.

00:34:48.320 We don't live in a police state where we resolve our problems through police.

00:34:52.560 I think what we need is an official opposition to oppose.

00:34:56.360 I think what we need are media to ask skeptical questions, not cheerlead and do stenography.

00:35:02.460 I think we need to vet and weed out any public health doctors who were sponsored by Pfizer or other drug companies.

00:35:12.280 I don't know.

00:35:12.800 I think that we need lawyers to stand up when civil liberties are being smashed.

00:35:17.440 Police are not the solution.

00:35:19.420 Just because the police are being deployed against skeptics does not mean they should be deployed against the government either.

00:35:25.280 But I tell you, we are in dark days.

00:35:28.720 That's our show for today.

00:35:30.800 Until Monday, on behalf of all of us here at Rubble World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:35:35.800 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:35:37.700 And let me leave you with an interview that David Menzies did with a teacher who's about to be fired.

00:35:42.440 And these students that were non-verbal were forced to wear the mask.

00:35:48.580 And myself, I had to observe one day, you know, support staff, a few of them.

00:35:57.400 One in particular, he went up to the student and physically forced the mask on the student.

00:36:05.080 And that for me, you know, I watched the student again, non-verbal, take it off again.

00:36:12.820 And the support staff, he went back last year and put it back on.

00:36:16.260 And that for me, I had to hold back my tears as an educator and say, this is not okay.

00:36:22.620 This is not okay.

00:36:23.820 And the unfortunate part is you can't speak up because you say anything and you're the one going against these policies.

00:36:30.360 David Menzies here in Parts Unknown, Ontario.

00:36:35.680 And forgive me, folks, I have to be a little evasive with some of the details because the person I'm about to interview,

00:36:41.680 we're going to call her Judy for the purposes of this interview.

00:36:44.520 That's not her real name.

00:36:46.200 But Judy was employed at a school. 0.95

00:36:48.800 It was in a Catholic school board district.

00:36:53.580 And, well, basically, Judy would not reveal her vaccination status.

00:36:58.460 That meant that she had to get tested twice a week.

00:37:05.000 And basically, the hammer dropped on the Friday before Thanksgiving Day.

00:37:10.320 You've got to make up your mind by Monday, Thanksgiving Day, or else you are suspended with pay,

00:37:16.500 which I guess is a fancy way of saying you're fired.

00:37:20.440 So, Judy, thank you so much for making time with us.

00:37:24.980 I know you want your identity concealed because you are going to obviously be seeking other employment opportunities.

00:37:34.580 And did I get that right?

00:37:36.400 Because you did not reveal your vaccination status, that led to the mandated twice a week test.

00:37:46.600 You had an issue with that.

00:37:48.200 Can you explain yourself?

00:37:49.220 So, my issue was the fact that the testing includes ethylene oxide.

00:37:53.640 And when I asked the people giving me the kit, who would be held liable,

00:37:58.600 or where are the health risks associated, nobody could answer the question.

00:38:02.660 And just to correct, it was suspension without pay.

00:38:06.640 And I wasn't given a choice.

00:38:07.800 I was given an ultimatum.

00:38:08.980 So, the biggest thing was the health risks.

00:38:10.720 And if you can't answer that, and if you're not a medical practitioner, how do I feel, I don't feel comfortable taking that.

00:38:18.900 And so, I was just at that point seeking information that was not available and was not provided to me by my employer.

00:38:25.520 And your health status, that is your personal information.

00:38:29.540 Once upon a time, it would be unthinkable for an employer to request what your, you know, health information is.

00:38:38.820 That's information between you and your doctor.

00:38:41.660 And more to the point, Judy, when we go back a year ago, there was no such thing as a COVID-19 vaccine.

00:38:48.880 You were in school with a mask on.

00:38:51.520 That was sufficient for the powers that be then.

00:38:55.360 Why is it different now?

00:38:57.360 That's a great question.

00:38:58.120 And when we pose that question as teachers, we're left with silence.

00:39:03.160 And that, for us, is where we stand our ground, is when do we draw the line?

00:39:08.600 When do we say enough is enough?

00:39:10.320 Nothing makes sense.

00:39:11.420 And I think not only standing up for teachers, but standing up for those students as well.

00:39:15.060 The mask was enough for me as an educator last year.

00:39:18.100 And for some reason, this year, and the sanitizing, and the washing of our hands, you know, extra frequently.

00:39:24.420 And this year, none of that is good enough.

00:39:26.100 Yeah, and you're in an environment with children.

00:39:29.540 We know from the statistics that children dying from COVID-19, it's almost unheard of.

00:39:34.920 Why would there be this thinking that a school with young people in it is the same as, say, a long-term care facility with elderly people that might have additional medical issues?

00:39:49.600 That's where the lion's share of the COVID-19 deaths are occurring in Canada, more than 80%.

00:39:55.500 So I'm trying to understand the science behind this decision, Judy.

00:39:59.900 You are not alone in that.

00:40:01.200 I think that there are hundreds, if not thousands, of teachers and other federal employees, you know, across the province having that same question and being left in silence again, where no one's able to answer that.

00:40:12.860 You know, again, you know, where are the facts and are we actually looking at the facts?

00:40:17.360 Are we looking at the science and understanding how does that impact?

00:40:20.580 The biggest one is the students, right?

00:40:22.700 How do we, where do we see that, you know, again, progressing forward?

00:40:28.140 And if not, we're doing more harm than help for these communities.

00:40:31.040 You know, you raise a good point there.

00:40:33.780 The students in the last year and a half, have you noticed any changes in behavior since all these masking and social distancing mandates have come to be?

00:40:45.940 Absolutely.

00:40:46.500 You have.

00:40:47.760 OK, there's a number of them.

00:40:48.980 So number one is the inability to hear, right?

00:40:51.760 We're unable to hear because of, you know, students enunciating or pronouncing words, especially at the elementary or, I guess, secondary level as well.

00:41:01.080 You have social development issues.

00:41:03.180 You have behavioral issues.

00:41:04.500 The inability to communicate and communicate effectively.

00:41:08.080 Then you have the simple idea of being covered.

00:41:11.220 Covered where you have, you know, skin irritations, taking it off.

00:41:16.240 You know, I had some students in the past remove their mask, sneeze, and then put it back on.

00:41:20.940 And there's a sense of etiquette.

00:41:22.580 And again, I'm OK because I know that I keep myself healthy and overall health.

00:41:28.920 You know, we teach our students that.

00:41:30.680 So you have to learn and teach not to live in fear.

00:41:33.580 But there's an element of etiquette here.

00:41:35.720 So is it really effective?

00:41:37.380 And I think that that is what is not shared with the public is are these students that are wearing these masks, are they wearing it effectively?

00:41:42.880 And is it even needed?

00:41:45.060 It almost sounds as though the so-called cure might be worse than the curse.

00:41:49.220 Absolutely.

00:41:49.620 Again, you know, for myself as an educator, I know I stand with so many others.

00:41:54.020 Where do you draw the line?

00:41:55.760 You know, all last year I worked on a combination of special needs and in classroom.

00:42:01.780 And I look at that and I say, for those students that I've worked with in the past, especially nonverbal students, putting a mask on students, especially, you know,

00:42:12.280 putting a mask on a student actually hinders that best way of communication, right?

00:42:20.240 So we've actually limited their development.

00:42:22.920 We've actually put, you know, a stop to their development in so many respects because you've put a mask on them.

00:42:28.880 How are they able to learn, be comfortable, be in a safe space?

00:42:32.500 Well said.

00:42:34.540 Now, the thing is, Judy, you, of course, are represented by a union.

00:42:39.960 When you went to your union and you talked about this, call it what you will, coercion, constructive dismissal, being held to an ultimatum that you could not acquiesce to,

00:42:53.160 what did your union do to help you?

00:42:56.020 First off, I had reached out in September three or four times, four different phone calls to the union president.

00:43:03.160 I was left in silence, no answer to any of them, voicemails and everything.

00:43:07.260 And that in the beginning was the attestation where I didn't have an option to say I choose not to disclose my medical information.

00:43:13.200 We have privacy laws in Canada that respect that.

00:43:16.680 And so I was left again with silence.

00:43:19.160 I returned to the union again and I said, you know, can somebody please provide me information on ethylene oxide?

00:43:24.820 You know, you're not a medical practitioner.

00:43:26.600 You've already shared my privacy information at that point.

00:43:31.060 And now you have a non-medical practitioner providing these teachers with kits, but you have no liability and you also have no information on the health risks associated with that.

00:43:41.600 And again, I was left with silence.

00:43:43.020 I was actually, no, sorry, I was left with silence in the beginning.

00:43:45.240 And then I got an email and the email stated that we do not encourage the suspension.

00:43:51.800 At this point, we encourage you to accept the kits in order to maintain your employment.

00:43:58.680 And again, you know, I repeat, and I know we shared that before.

00:44:01.200 It's not a choice.

00:44:02.140 That's an ultimatum.

00:44:03.280 I wasn't given an option.

00:44:04.780 Again, my mask was, you know, good enough last year.

00:44:07.220 This year it was not good enough.

00:44:09.620 That was my ultimatum.

00:44:10.720 Well, I guess you're wondering in the aftermath what you've been paying all those union dues for.

00:44:16.740 Absolutely.

00:44:17.360 And I know, again, there's comfort in knowing that I'm not alone and not just in the education sector, but in so many other sectors.

00:44:23.060 If we pay for the union to support us and to at least provide us with information when we are seeking it and to be left with, again, silence or a lack of support.

00:44:34.020 In some cases, I know that teachers were told to seek their own lawyer.

00:44:38.980 This is unheard of from unions.

00:44:40.720 This is unacceptable.

00:44:42.280 And again, you ask yourself, where do we draw the line?

00:44:45.260 Where do we draw the line as a union representative?

00:44:47.080 Where do you draw the line as a teacher?

00:44:48.380 Where do you draw the line as a principal?

00:44:50.080 You know, being told you have to do X, Y.

00:44:51.700 Enough of it.

00:44:52.320 I've been told.

00:44:53.840 Let's get down to the facts.

00:44:55.300 And Judy, when it comes to your colleagues, how many are in a similar boat?

00:45:04.340 I know you don't have an exact number, but if you were to guesstimate the percentage in terms of those who care not to reveal their vaccination status and, like yourself, don't want to get tested twice a week, how many are in the same predicament as you?

00:45:21.500 Okay. Without speaking directly to my colleagues, to be respectful of them, I want to say I know for a fact there are hundreds, if not thousands, across Ontario that I have connected with just to find support and know that I'm not alone in how do we move forward as a collective unit.

00:45:43.120 And at the same time, I know that the fear mongering continues and I don't even know if fear is the right word anymore because it's assault at this point.

00:45:53.860 When you take away someone's livelihood because we were told to or because that was the only option, that's no longer fear.

00:46:02.440 That's really walking into assault.

00:46:04.380 We're walking into criminal issues here.

00:46:07.580 Well, I can say the coercion is off the charts.

00:46:10.480 Every day we get dozens and dozens of emails.

00:46:13.320 They're all the same.

00:46:14.880 I've lost my job.

00:46:15.900 I'm about to lose my job.

00:46:17.340 Just the other day I interviewed a CN locomotive engineer.

00:46:21.740 Great paying job.

00:46:23.500 Likes his job.

00:46:25.520 On November 15th, if he doesn't get the jabs, he's out of a job and he's not getting the jabs.

00:46:30.460 I guess, how do you respond, Judy, to those on the other side, the pro-vaccine side that, well, I think there's some demonization going on.

00:46:42.340 They're saying, listen, get the jabs, be transparent about your information.

00:46:48.200 And if not, too bad.

00:46:50.160 This was your choice.

00:46:51.860 It's your bed, the lion.

00:46:53.120 How do you respond to those on the other side that are very pro-vaccination?

00:46:57.760 I think we need to really think about that word pro-vaccine, right?

00:47:03.180 Because I think that there's a lot of people that are choosing not to share their medical information, whether they have it or not.

00:47:11.200 This injection is not fully approved, so that's why I call it an injection, not necessarily a vaccine.

00:47:16.320 People are not necessarily anti-vaccine.

00:47:20.220 They're just pro-choice, right?

00:47:23.680 They want to have that freedom of choice.

00:47:25.940 Maybe in a couple of years when there's more studies done.

00:47:29.280 So to respond to those individuals is let's not create further division and instead let's find a common path where we can all stand unified together.

00:47:39.580 I know many people that have chosen to obtain this injection and yet still stand alongside so many other federal employees saying you still have a right to choice.

00:47:53.180 So just because you chose this injection, that's fine and I respect you and I don't treat you any less, but that shouldn't be reciprocated just the same.

00:48:01.480 And you know, Judy, you raise a profound point, I think, and that is for decades we've seen the feminist movement, at least when it comes to abortion, say the chestnut, my body, my choice.

00:48:12.740 Has that evaporated in this day and age of COVID-19 or does my body, my choice only apply to terminating the life of a baby?

00:48:22.840 I think that, you know, when you state that there are conditions that now we have placed on that, right?

00:48:28.600 My body, my choice, absolutely.

00:48:30.120 But there's conditions and those conditions are not based on science, right?

00:48:35.940 They're not based on facts.

00:48:38.080 They're based on fear.

00:48:39.700 So I think that we really, again, need to really sit back and ask ourselves whether you've chosen to get the injection or not.

00:48:46.260 We have to really look at how do we want to continue to live in a sense of community?

00:48:50.340 Why are we dividing?

00:48:51.480 Are we not learning anything from those history lessons?

00:48:53.800 Are we learning anything from the past where we don't want to create further division?

00:48:57.660 We want to come together in unison and stand for choice, whatever that may look like.

00:49:03.980 Accommodations.

00:49:04.600 We teach our students about accommodations.

00:49:06.680 We are told we have no other choice but to accommodate our students on every single level, physical, mental, emotional, social.

00:49:13.520 And that's my job for how many years?

00:49:15.800 And now I don't get no accommodation.

00:49:18.780 So there's, again, a level, and I say this wholeheartedly, as a Catholic, in a Catholic school board, there's a level of hypocrisy there.

00:49:25.620 And I think that's where, again, I've said it before, where do we draw the line?

00:49:30.340 Where do we say, you know what, it's not about the paycheck.

00:49:33.560 If we are teaching anything to our students about justice, love, respect, essence of Catholic education, we have to continue to preach that.

00:49:42.160 Not start, continue to preach that.

00:49:45.640 And, you know, you raise another great point, too.

00:49:48.040 You know, reasonable accommodation, we're supposed to be accommodating to whatever minority concern there is.

00:49:55.420 But, again, something that has gone into hibernation during COVID-19.

00:50:00.400 But I've got to tell you, Judy, my heart breaks when I read so many of these stories because it's literally get the jabs or lose your jobs.

00:50:08.760 And at the end of the day, you can take a principled stance, but especially if you're supporting a family, you've got to put, you know, the bread on the table, so to speak.

00:50:19.500 People are being put into a hellacious choice here, I think, you know, you know, maintain their privacy regarding their vaccination status or lose a job and fall on hard times.

00:50:33.200 I think, you know, I've mentioned this before, you know, you ask yourself, where do you tap out, so to speak?

00:50:41.960 And I think that in these situations and in these circumstances, when things are done unlawfully, we have to ask ourselves, what do we stand for, right?

00:50:52.400 And for myself, it's a matter of the house, the home, the apartment, it means nothing, right?

00:50:58.340 If I am not alive and well and being able to be with family, what is the reason for life?

00:51:04.540 So I think, you know, I encourage every single person getting that ultimatum to really think of where do we place our values?

00:51:11.840 It's not in the cars, it's not in the homes, it's not in the materialistic things.

00:51:16.280 It's about where we stand in our freedoms, our freedom to continue to live a fruitful life.

00:51:22.020 And I say that because everybody, no, not everybody, many, many, many hundreds, thousands of people are being pushed against the wall and not given a choice.

00:51:31.720 But I encourage that to step, those ones, to step outside of your comfort zone.

00:51:36.840 I know that feeling.

00:51:38.100 I know that feeling of everything that I've worked for in terms of career shattered in a matter of one email.

00:51:43.620 You know, I wasn't given a choice.

00:51:45.180 I wasn't respected as an individual.

00:51:46.780 I wasn't valued.

00:51:50.140 And for myself as a Catholic, I have to ask myself, where do we draw the line?

00:51:54.760 And so it will be uncomfortable.

00:51:56.880 We will, you know, many living paycheck to paycheck, many probably dipping into savings, many, you know, maybe selling homes, selling cars.

00:52:05.120 That's okay when we continue to stand unified.

00:52:09.280 That for me is, you know, again, if I'm looking back at my values as a Catholic, that's what we are teaching our students.

00:52:14.720 It's not about the materialistic things.

00:52:17.060 It will get uncomfortable.

00:52:18.580 Our lives have been uncomfortable for the past two years, you know.

00:52:21.720 So we've already, we know that we are resilient.

00:52:24.580 We know that we are adapting to these pressuring changes.

00:52:28.380 Let's continue with that resilience to get back out, to get back up and swimming.

00:52:33.240 And, Judy, when it comes to your own personal story moving forward, I don't see the governments changing their minds on these vaccine mandates.

00:52:43.680 I don't see the school board doing a 180.

00:52:46.800 Your union, as they say in Alabama, this dog don't hunt when it comes to this issue in protecting their members.

00:52:52.880 So I know we spoke off camera.

00:52:54.880 At first, you were looking at maybe going to a private school, but that might not be a utopia either.

00:53:00.520 Yeah, so I looked into the Bill 12 that was, I guess, passed or presented at first reading.

00:53:06.620 I know it didn't get second reading or third reading yet, nor royal assent.

00:53:10.600 But pretty much that is a hammer down on everyone in education, and that included the private schools.

00:53:17.480 So I think that, again, what the government is doing is, I've told you before, is criminal.

00:53:22.560 It's malicious.

00:53:23.160 I think it's evil and evil to the core.

00:53:26.700 But again, you know, looking back at my own values and in my heart, I think that this is going to be another uncomfortable space and uncomfortable time until our voices are heard.

00:53:38.260 And, yeah, so it's a matter of how do we move forward.

00:53:41.980 And it's going to be uncomfortable, whether it's finding a new career path.

00:53:44.820 I know now there's so many jobs online.

00:53:47.940 It's about not giving up.

00:53:50.560 It's okay.

00:53:51.280 You know, we tell our students the same thing.

00:53:52.660 It's okay to feel down.

00:53:54.000 It's okay to be filled with a lot of different emotions.

00:53:57.040 That is okay.

00:53:57.780 But it's what do we do with those challenges that are presented?

00:54:00.600 You know, how do we lift ourselves and lift those around us in community with others in unison?

00:54:06.920 And that, for me, is my drive and will continue to be my drive.

00:54:10.420 You know, if I, whatever sacrifices we need to make as a community, I am willing to make for freedom and for our voices and for equality, the same things that we preach to our students.

00:54:23.380 And yet, as adults in our communities, we are failing to live up to.

00:54:27.300 So, Judy, it might be a matter of you're going to have to reinvent yourself, go into a different career, which I think is a shame.

00:54:33.980 You went to teacher's college, obviously.

00:54:35.960 You've got years of experience.

00:54:37.180 You strike me as somebody I would want as a teacher.

00:54:41.400 You come across that way to me.

00:54:43.460 It seems a shame, but I guess your back is against the wall, isn't it?

00:54:47.980 They are forcing you to go somewhere else in order to make a basic livelihood.

00:54:54.640 Absolutely.

00:54:55.300 And I think that there is comfort in knowing that I'm just not alone.

00:54:58.640 When I reach out and I know that there is hundreds, in some sectors, thousands of other teachers, again, in other sectors, police officers, firefighters, nurses, doctors that are on the same page.

00:55:11.280 So, I think that there is comfort in knowing that I'm not alone.

00:55:14.200 The battle does feel alone in so many respects.

00:55:16.580 When it's you up against, you know, whoever gave you the medical kit was, you know, in that situation.

00:55:23.140 But again, it's, yes, you're absolutely right, reinventing the wheel.

00:55:26.100 But I think that as teachers, this is what we went to university for, right?

00:55:30.300 We find paths for our students.

00:55:32.320 There's never a known education.

00:55:33.960 So, any challenge you're given, there's, you know, even your principal, your VP, whoever, there's never going to be, oh, no, we've exhausted.

00:55:40.820 No, no, no.

00:55:41.280 There's no such thing as exhausting all your options.

00:55:43.040 You keep going.

00:55:44.640 You're never exhausted.

00:55:46.240 So, I feel for me, you know, again, you've got to go back to what did, you know, even when I look back at my teacher's license, the entire college of teachers, what do we represent?

00:55:55.020 What do we stand for?

00:55:56.380 That's what I need to continue to stand for.

00:55:58.020 It will be hard.

00:55:58.900 I've said this before.

00:55:59.500 It's going to be difficult.

00:56:00.420 It's going to be challenging.

00:56:01.260 It's going to be exhausting, but I'm not done exhausting all of those options because there's never a no.

00:56:07.340 There's constantly a yes, and we push forward together.

00:56:09.780 Well, I wish you well.

00:56:10.740 And some of those occupations you mentioned, I can't help but notice the perverse irony.

00:56:16.640 Nurses and other health care workers just a few months ago, these were the frontline heroes.

00:56:21.320 They're like superheroes.

00:56:23.000 And now you don't divulge your vaccination status or say you're not getting vaccinated.

00:56:28.440 You're demonized.

00:56:29.300 You are modern-day typhoid Mary's. 0.92

00:56:31.260 Firefighters, police officers, we just had the 20th anniversary of the 9-11 attacks.

00:56:39.000 And remember how first responders, again, heroes, now the heroes have gone to zeros.

00:56:45.120 If you don't get your jabs, you're going to lose your job.

00:56:48.640 It's funny how everything is being turned upside down because of this virus.

00:56:53.440 Absolutely.

00:56:54.680 And I think I wanted to touch on one thing because you mentioned it.

00:56:57.960 You know, all these people that are speaking out are seeing something behind those closed doors.

00:57:02.160 And I think that, unfortunately, with the censorship that's going on, the facts are not shared.

00:57:10.260 The stories of, you know, the testimonies are not shared.

00:57:13.240 And I can say, and I'll share one with you today from a teaching perspective.

00:57:17.780 You know, I was teaching last year students that were nonverbal.

00:57:21.620 And these students that were nonverbal were forced to wear the mask.

00:57:26.720 And myself, I had to observe one day, you know, support staff, a few of them.

00:57:34.420 One in particular, he went up to the student and physically forced the mask on the student.

00:57:44.300 And that, for me, and I, you know, I watched the student again, nonverbal, take it off again.

00:57:51.280 And the support staff, he went back last year and put it back on.

00:57:54.740 And that, for me, I had to hold back my tears as an educator and say, this is not okay.

00:58:01.080 This is not okay.

00:58:02.200 And the fortunate part is you can't speak up because you say anything and you're the one going against these policies.

00:58:09.060 But these policies are doing more harm than help to our own students.

00:58:12.920 That is the next generation.

00:58:14.960 So, for me, and again, you know, you mentioned it.

00:58:17.180 You got all of these sectors standing up.

00:58:20.120 Their voices are not heard.

00:58:21.620 That alone should be questioned.

00:58:23.700 That alone should be a big red flag.

00:58:26.620 And I say this from a teacher perspective because, you see,

00:58:29.820 the parents don't understand what's happening in the classroom because there's no transparency, right?

00:58:35.920 There's already, I guess you could say, a barrier when they drop off their students,

00:58:40.040 whether that's high school or elementary.

00:58:42.160 So, there's no transparency there.

00:58:44.800 So, if nobody is sharing their story because they're living in fear in every single sector,

00:58:50.680 then where, how do we obtain that truth?

00:58:53.840 And this is the reason why I've decided to share my story today with you is slowly trying to break free of that fear.

00:59:01.580 It's going to get uncomfortable.

00:59:02.740 But when you think, and I think of that one story, I'm getting choked up saying it.

00:59:06.320 You know, when you think of that one story, one of many of students being forced to, you know,

00:59:11.600 for example, mask in this sense, in this example, you know, high school students, non-verbal,

00:59:17.280 who don't have, sorry, that is their best form of communication.

00:59:21.500 And you've hindered that.

00:59:22.600 You've stolen that opportunity from them.

00:59:25.080 And that, for me, goes back to, as I said before, it's no longer abuse.

00:59:29.000 It's beyond that.

00:59:29.740 It's assault.

00:59:31.120 And yet, you know, more and more people, I hope I give you a little bit of confidence,

00:59:35.860 to step out and share your story.

00:59:37.920 Share the facts of what's happening.

00:59:40.460 Don't look at the, you know, the news.

00:59:42.400 Look at the facts from the people that are experiencing it firsthand.

00:59:46.320 Judy, I want to thank you for your time.

00:59:48.060 And I want to wish you the best of luck moving forward.

00:59:51.040 Who knows, since teaching might be a dead-end profession for people like yourself,

00:59:56.400 taking a principled stance, maybe you're going to find another career in another sector that you'll enjoy even more.

01:00:02.300 But once again, thank you so much for your time and good luck.

01:00:08.080 Folks, can you imagine vaccine passports are a fact of life in Canada?

01:00:13.000 Do you think that's right, to have medical apartheid?

01:00:16.320 Well, I sure don't.

01:00:17.220 If you can, please go to fightvaccinepassports.com.

01:00:21.940 That's fightvaccinepassports.com.

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Rebel News Podcast - October 23, 2021

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Should NBA players be able to speak out about human rights？

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