Rebel News Podcast - October 30, 2026


EZRA LEVANT ｜ The Bank of Canada already documented what the immigration surge did. Carney is preparing to turn the taps back on anyway.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. You're going to see the new announcement by the government over the next
00:00:03.680 couple of days of higher immigration numbers, but they know what that's going to do. I'm going
00:00:08.780 to show you the Bank of Canada has written half a dozen papers saying if you raise immigration,
00:00:14.000 you're going to raise rent and you're going to push down wages. Of course, it's supply and demand.
00:00:19.140 I'll take you through the documents you'll see with your own eyes. But first, let me invite you
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00:00:36.880 tonight canada's immigration minister has all but announced the numbers going back up
00:01:01.840 the bank of canada has already written down what the last surge did to us
00:01:06.360 I'll show you. It's October 30th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:13.380 Shame on you, you censorious bug.
00:01:25.000 It's October 30th. Under the law, the government has to table its new immigration levels,
00:01:30.800 their new plan, by November 1st.
00:01:32.360 that Sunday the minister Lena Diab says it's coming quote in November as it's
00:01:38.240 scheduled and she's not being coy about which direction the numbers are going
00:01:43.220 two weeks ago she said this we have an ambitious agenda we are going to want to
00:01:48.800 drive growth we do need people but we have people we have a country full of
00:01:55.340 people with too many unemployed especially young people who are crowded 1.00
00:01:59.120 out of jobs by foreigners deliberately brought in to undercut local wages. That is the whole 1.00
00:02:05.400 mission of the temporary foreign worker program. They're not pretending to be anything other than
00:02:09.980 competitive price undercutters for the benefit of big corporations. Now, I know I'm sounding
00:02:15.820 like a bit of a commie by saying that, but why are we allowing big corporations like Tim Hortons, 0.86
00:02:21.160 which is owned in Brazil, by the way, to bring in foreign workers to take those important first jobs
00:02:27.140 that used to go to Canadian teens. I don't get it. So that's the immigration minister. And before her,
00:02:32.900 the prime minister told the New York Times, not a Canadian outlet, by the way, the New York Times
00:02:37.820 got to know first. We found out from the Americans again, he said, quote, now the question starts to
00:02:44.280 become, when do we resume some controlled immigration in the population, which is the
00:02:48.860 nature of Canada? When do we resume? As if they ever stopped. But when, not whether they resume,
00:02:56.240 Controlled. I love that phrase, controlled. It's completely out of control. And then this,
00:03:02.980 quote, so that will happen. And we just want to make sure that we've got it under control.
00:03:08.440 That will happen. Now, what does under control mean? I mean, look at the plan that's still on
00:03:13.560 the books. 380,000 permanent residents every year, plus 370,000 new temporary residents
00:03:21.000 in 2027. And again, in 2028. That's the under control number, 750,000 people a year,
00:03:30.320 permanent and temporary together. And that's not even all the categories.
00:03:33.640 That's the equivalent of, I don't know, bigger than several Canadian provinces every single year.
00:03:39.500 And it's the floor, it's the minimum. And Mark Carney's talking about going up from there.
00:03:44.400 why because we're told the economy needs it population growth was half of one percent in
00:03:51.700 the year to july lowest since 1944 they say really well right on cue the headlines showed up
00:03:59.080 headlines everywhere the bank of canada sounds the alarm the hill times says canada's economy
00:04:03.360 quote won't grow as fast because of less immigration global news says the bank is warning
00:04:08.780 that aging population and low immigration are reshaping the economy. Cue the violins.
00:04:14.300 You've heard the speech before. Justin Trudeau gave it in 2022, right before the targets went
00:04:19.920 to half a million. And if you say, hang on, maybe the country needs to catch its breath.
00:04:25.000 Maybe we need to bring in people who are culturally a better fit too. Well, you're
00:04:28.840 anti-immigrant then. You're racist. Oh, and you don't understand economics from the point of view 0.98
00:04:33.720 the corporations. I'm not anti-corporation. I just think that an employment strategy should
00:04:40.040 probably take into account employees, or would-be employees, here in Canada, not in foreign countries.
00:04:47.320 Here's the thing. The Bank of Canada did not discover immigration this month.
00:04:51.840 They have been writing about it for years, in their interest rate reports, in their speeches
00:04:57.260 by the deputy governors, in staff papers, and almost none of it says what this month's headlines
00:05:03.040 say, as in what they're saying politically, publicly to the media is not what their economists
00:05:08.580 say when they're writing scientific economic papers about it. I know that because a man named
00:05:14.020 Richard Diaz did a lot of the reading. I just stumbled upon it. He's a chartered financial
00:05:18.140 analyst. I don't know who he is really. He used to be a strategist at the research company in
00:05:22.660 Montreal. I just bumped into him on Twitter and his tweet caught my eye because he did a lot of
00:05:27.520 homework. He wrote that the government's immigration policy the last 10 years was
00:05:31.580 highly regressive that having seemingly learned nothing he said they're dead set on turning back
00:05:37.220 on the taps and that the media is parroting the government's narrative and gaslighting
00:05:41.720 anyone who disagrees okay so that's just some guy in his opinion but look at the facts he brought
00:05:47.300 to bear look at his documents a list of bank of canada publications with links with the bank's
00:05:54.700 own words all this sits on the bank of canada's own website for free for any reporter who cares
00:05:59.540 to look. If they look, you would never know it from the headlines. Let me show you some of it.
00:06:03.360 I think, I mean, I certainly opened my eyes. And again, this is not me. This is the Bank of Canada
00:06:09.140 economists. This is Tiff Macklem's Bank of Canada. October, 2023, the monetary policy report, the
00:06:17.000 big one published with the rate decision, quote, the strength in rent and other housing costs is
00:06:23.180 partly due to strong housing demand, which is supported by rapid population growth and a
00:06:28.180 structural lack of housing supply. Rapid population growth, driving your rent. I like the phrase they
00:06:35.380 use, strength in rent. Yeah, that's written from the landlord's position, strength in rent. We've
00:06:40.940 got strong rent numbers. I got nothing against landlords, but if you're wondering why in Canada
00:06:46.680 the birth rate is so low and the natural population rate is so low and there's so few babies and so 0.98
00:06:52.560 few people getting married, it's because young people can't afford to move out of their parents'
00:06:57.160 houses and start their own lives and families because rents are strong next 2023 december a
00:07:04.560 speech by tony gravella deputy governor quote shortly after immigration began ramping up in
00:07:10.060 2015 canada's vacancy rates started to fall well duh he even gives you the year it started does
00:07:15.780 that year ring a bell what happened in 2015 january 2024 the next monetary policy report
00:07:22.660 quote a larger increase in newcomers than in the past is adding pressure to the structural supply
00:07:29.100 constraint in housing then it goes on to say this helped push vacancy to record lows which
00:07:35.840 quote underpinned house prices and led to higher rents you don't say it's called supply and demand
00:07:40.820 people lots of newcomers record low vacancy higher rents the bank's sort of saying the obvious i
00:07:48.200 thing? July 2024, same report, six months later. Quote, the largest initial impact tends to be in
00:07:54.340 rental markets is because most newcomers start out as renters. Yeah, so do most people who
00:07:59.760 leave their parents' homes, young Canadians going out to get a job. Maybe they'll get married. They 0.66
00:08:05.380 usually rent when they leave house. Not a lot of young people are buying homes in their early 20s
00:08:10.980 these days. So who do you think it hits? Most newcomers start out as renters. So who pays the
00:08:16.780 higher rent, everyone who rents, including Canadians who are already here, who are trying 0.97
00:08:21.660 to get ahead in life. And it's not just rent. December 23, a bank staff note on inflation,
00:08:27.100 quote, the rise in immigration is nonetheless contributing to pressures and inflation components
00:08:32.620 linked to house prices. The one thing the Bank of Canada exists to fight, that's their whole
00:08:37.900 premise, isn't it? Now, housing is the one that everybody admits to, even the liberals.
00:08:43.280 Diaz found the part that they don't talk about, though, wages.
00:08:47.060 April 2024, a bank staff note.
00:08:49.520 They looked at who was actually arriving after 2015 and what they earned.
00:08:53.640 Let me quote, those of non-permanent residents are much lower
00:08:58.520 and have fallen over these periods.
00:09:01.620 Much lower, fallen.
00:09:02.620 That's the temporary workers and that's the students.
00:09:05.000 Their wages are going down.
00:09:07.600 Well, of course, again, supply and demand. 0.93
00:09:09.180 you got half a million or a million foreign workers and students sloshing around there's a 0.93
00:09:15.600 race to the bottom for wages that's good news for tim hortons not so good for young canadians or 0.99
00:09:21.080 frankly for these foreign workers although they're doing much better here than they would be doing
00:09:24.560 say back in india but what about the canadian kid trying to get the same shift it's good for
00:09:29.940 the employer he can get foreign workers um any corporation looking to save a buck they're they're
00:09:35.440 doing great they're loving it that was always the point of it all right may 2025 a staff paper on
00:09:42.320 productivity which every economist in the country says is canada's great problem well why well let
00:09:46.940 me quote the paper first the productive capacity the canadian economy grew less than it would have
00:09:52.660 if recent newcomers had the same socio-economic characteristics in the past as in we're bringing
00:09:59.940 in the poor unskilled people from around the world we are not bringing in doctors and engineers
00:10:05.880 We're talking about low-wage entry-level workers, the Tim Hortons people, many of whom, by the way, 0.90
00:10:10.640 come under false pretenses, fake refugees, fake students at fake colleges. It says the effect is
00:10:18.020 most acute in food service, retail, and support services. Low-wage, low-productivity jobs. So the
00:10:23.760 surge didn't fix our productivity problem. It made it worse, says the Bank of Canada. Everything is
00:10:30.000 worse. Housing is more expensive. Wages are lower. Productivity is lower. What are we doing?
00:10:36.960 And then the one that should make every parent in this country angry, quote,
00:10:40.660 youth represent a significant portion of the overall increase in unemployment
00:10:44.320 since the start of 2023. This is partly due to the high number of immigrants who are generally 1.00
00:10:49.940 younger than the rest of the population. I'm quoting from the bank here, not from the Conservative
00:10:53.880 Party. And this May, five months ago, a deputy governor named Nicholas Vincent gave a speech
00:10:59.140 in montreal he said quote between 2022 and 2024 there was a large influx of young people from
00:11:05.360 abroad this intensified competition in canada for lower skill and entry-level jobs why are we doing
00:11:12.780 that youth unemployment is now about 14 percent one in seven young canadians who wants a job
00:11:19.400 cannot get one they're waiting in huge you ever see these job fairs at like a costco the lineup is
00:11:27.360 is blocks long, and it's mainly foreign nationals. Bank of Canada tells you in plain English why this
00:11:34.460 is happening. Okay, last one, September, just six weeks ago, quote, strong population growth drove
00:11:41.560 asking rents higher in recent years. Six weeks ago, they were still saying it. So now go back
00:11:48.300 to that scary headline, Bank of Canada sounds alarm over immigration cuts. Really? Here's what
00:11:55.220 the bank actually published on October 8th. That's just days ago. It's an explainer about
00:12:01.380 demographics. And yes, it says, quote, the economy won't grow as fast. But the same page says this,
00:12:06.380 quote, in the coming years, fewer immigrants are expected to arrive, which will reduce demand for
00:12:11.640 housing. And then this could lower pressure on housing costs. That's good news if you care about
00:12:18.740 Canadians, especially young Canadians. So on the same page, fewer immigrants, lower housing costs. 1.00
00:12:23.540 you see that in any of the headlines go read it yourself it's on the bank's website these are not
00:12:28.240 secrets i just i'm glad this one guy put it all together that's the pattern three years of bank
00:12:33.500 research says the surge pushed up your rent pushed down your wages at the bottom dragged on
00:12:39.240 productivity and put young canadians out of work one explainer says the economy won't grow as fast
00:12:45.000 and the media picks that one now of course won't grow as fast well of course it won't
00:12:49.980 at a million people and the total is going to be bigger just because you brought a million people
00:12:54.320 over more people buying groceries more people buying rent that's why prices are going up that's
00:12:58.840 why we have inflation the only question that matters though well the cultural questions of
00:13:04.300 importing millions of people who are bringing foreign quarrels with them that matters too but
00:13:08.900 are you better off as an individual as a family and the parliamentary budget officer looked at
00:13:14.240 exactly that back when the cuts were first announced. Real GDP is about 1.7% lower by
00:13:21.780 2027, but real GDP per person is about 1.4% higher. This is when the immigration slowed down
00:13:29.560 just a little bit. It slowed down and things immediately got better for individual Canadians. 0.86
00:13:36.320 It was a slightly smaller economy, but everyone was richer in it. The pie gets a bit smaller,
00:13:42.360 but it's cut into far fewer slices because we're not supporting a million extra migrants. 1.00
00:13:47.620 Think about the last 10 years. It's not an immigration policy. It's a transfer
00:13:52.760 of wealth from young renters and entry-level workers to landlords, to college mills selling
00:13:59.620 diplomas, to employers who'd rather import a worker at a falling wage than train a Canadian
00:14:04.500 than a rising one. That's what this guy Richard Diaz means by regressive. It hurt the people at
00:14:10.800 the bottom and helped the people at the top. It's not only Richard Diaz on Twitter, even a
00:14:16.360 Waterloo economist quoted by the Canadian press, Michael Scudderon, worries the business lobby
00:14:21.900 will pressure the prime minister into this. The Brookfield group, quote, he's going to see
00:14:27.140 immigration as a solution for businesses. And that's a problem. I'm not a commie, but I don't
00:14:33.580 believe that we should grind young people who are Canadians by bringing in essentially a slave labor 0.99
00:14:40.440 indentured worker class. That is what we are doing. It's not my opinion. That's the Bank of 1.00
00:14:46.080 Canada. They didn't use such colorful language. They have it in their reports. You can read their
00:14:50.400 reports. You can read the footnotes. So this week, watch the number. If it goes up, the government
00:14:56.240 is telling you the housing crisis is over. The youth jobs crisis is over. And the Bank of Canada's
00:15:01.900 research doesn't count anymore. And watch the media coverage. Count how many reporters quote
00:15:06.480 the October 8th explainer about how we need more immigrants and how many quote the actual research
00:15:12.600 documents. You know, as you know, Mark Carney used to run the Bank of Canada. He knows how to
00:15:17.600 read those research reports. So if you have a kid who graduated this year and still can't find work
00:15:23.220 or who's priced out of an apartment, ask yourself the question nobody in the press gallery seems to,
00:15:27.780 nobody in the CBC seems to, if the Bank of Canada already knows why this is happening
00:15:32.100 And the prime minister is about to turn the immigration tabs back on anyways.
00:15:36.940 Who is the government working for?
00:15:38.780 I know how Brookfield benefits from cheap, cheap workers and very expensive rents.
00:15:44.520 But what about the rest of us?
00:15:48.080 Sit with us for more.
00:15:49.000 i don't know when the word made m-a-i-d was coined to talk about doctor assisted suicide but i know
00:16:06.940 why it was coined because saying doctor assisted suicide immediately repulses people who remember
00:16:14.480 that for indeed millennia, the Hippocratic Oath, the oath of all doctors is to be a healer. Do
00:16:21.180 no harm. A three-word mission statement that has stood the profession well over the centuries.
00:16:27.920 And so when you have people who call themselves doctors, instead practicing to take a life rather
00:16:33.980 than to save a life, it naturally creates a disgust or perhaps even just a sense of unease
00:16:41.540 that this is not what doctors were meant to do you know we we had a premonition of this about 80 0.57
00:16:47.180 years ago during the holocaust it was doctors who committed some of the most cruel war crimes
00:16:54.320 they took the prisoners in various concentration camps and did outrageous and inhuman experiments 0.71
00:17:02.180 on them experiments that would never be permitted in in any civilized society and after the holocaust 0.51
00:17:10.020 There was a Nuremberg trial called the Nazi doctor trials and from it came the Nuremberg Code. It was named after really the ruling that outlined a civilized society's approach for dealing with people and it dealt with their consent and their consent to be harmed. 0.69
00:17:33.180 And for two, three generations, that was unquestioned. But now the Nuremberg Code itself is under attack through MAID, which is why they call it that. Joining us now to talk about MAID and the latest approach to MAID hatched by our liberal government is our friend Amanda Ackman, the founder of a group called Dying to Meet You, which opposes doctor-assisted suicide.
00:18:02.460 amanda great to see you again you too ezra did i properly give the history of doctors killing
00:18:09.500 people like it's so anathema it's it's like dry water or cold fire having a doctor involved in
00:18:16.720 death just seems unnatural the nazi euthanasia memorials in europe describe the action t4
00:18:25.040 program as a prelude to the Holocaust, and it involved the direct intentional killing of
00:18:32.420 citizens, especially those with disabilities. And so this history bears revisiting as we attempt to
00:18:41.100 safeguard human life in our current context. Well, and that's the thing, because it cheapens
00:18:46.680 human life to throw out people because they're not perfect. Of course, none of us is perfect,
00:18:53.060 But one of the things that I think shows the slippery slope we're on is how every year the catchment of ailments and maladies that is enough to have a doctor-assisted suicide becomes lower and lower.
00:19:09.920 The bar becomes lower and lower.
00:19:11.300 And we see, for example, that the Veterans Affairs Department has recommended MAID to military veterans who had PTSD.
00:19:20.980 So that's now on. I mean, we're cheapening life, cheapening our approach to life. And I think you're right. When you do that, even a little bit, it starts to lead to a callousness that's far broader.
00:19:36.620 euthanasia always gets expanded on the grounds of equality because if it is seen to be a reasonable
00:19:45.200 and compassionate means to address human suffering then why wouldn't you allow it for wider and wider 0.92
00:19:50.860 demographics of people and so initially in 2016 it was for those with a grievous and irremediable
00:19:56.580 medical condition who were suffering intolerably according to their own subjective assessment
00:20:02.680 Then in 2021, the government further expanded euthanasia on the basis of disability because the rationale was that surely there are people who suffer during life more even than those who are dying a natural death.
00:20:17.880 And then that became also the grounds by which the government did legalize at the same time in 2021 euthanasia on the basis of mental illness as a sole condition.
00:20:27.880 Now, we know that that's been staved off year after year and that now the government is introducing this bill to scrap it due to the unpopularity of made for mental illness as a sole condition.
00:20:40.420 But in a very sinister turn of events, the government has decided to combine scrapping made for mental illness with the ushering in of death for dementia.
00:20:53.760 Track three, we have track one, track two is the disability track.
00:20:58.020 And now track three is basically the dementia track where it has become more popular, more favorable among Canadians who fear a diagnosis of dementia so profoundly.
00:21:09.500 to schedule a death by doctor in advance. This erodes the previously deemed essential safeguard
00:21:18.540 of contemporaneous consent, and it is a shocking, widening expansion of euthanasia, and what makes
00:21:25.020 it so sinister and disgusting is the very people who have been advocating and championing scrapping
00:21:31.240 made for mental illness will not even be able to support the bill that does that, because it is in
00:21:36.720 in fact, sneakily, a euthanasia expansion bill that will lead to countless more deaths of Canadians,
00:21:43.820 specifically those living with dementia. So what you're saying is someone who is of sound mind can
00:21:49.720 say, hey, if I ever am losing my marbles, I give you permission now to kill me later. But when the
00:21:57.820 later arrives, there's no checking, there's no testing. It's just, oh, this guy, five years ago,
00:22:03.780 when he had a certain approach to things said he wanted to die that's enough for us now is that is
00:22:09.760 that i don't know the technicalities by the way this is all in a new bill isn't it called c41
00:22:15.020 that was introduced by the liberals so how does it work if someone were to say if i'm ever losing
00:22:21.140 my marbles kill me but if you talk to them at a later date and they're non-communicative or if
00:22:27.100 they change their mind. How does it work? Yeah, it's basically a short form. I've seen the form
00:22:33.860 that a person makes an advanced request for euthanasia at a later date. And let me comment
00:22:39.600 on that language of advanced request. It is so inappropriate to describe euthanasia as advanced
00:22:44.920 request. When I hear that term, I think about scheduling Uber Eats in advance. I don't think
00:22:49.060 about anticipating a doctor-assisted suicide when I reach a point at which I deem life no longer
00:22:54.880 worth living. And so this obfuscation of language is extremely sinister. But I want to back up a few
00:23:00.880 years, because it was a few years ago now that Quebec already began euthanizing people with
00:23:06.720 dementia, incapable of providing contemporaneous consent. And when Quebec started doing this,
00:23:12.760 they were reprimanded by the justice minister who said, we take note that what Quebec is doing
00:23:19.000 is against federal law. It violates the criminal code, which does apply all across Canada, but we're
00:23:26.180 not going to prosecute. On the contrary, we are going to issue a national conversation on advance
00:23:32.680 requests and see what the rest of Canadians think about death for dementia. And they conducted this
00:23:39.520 survey over the Christmas months, a very short time window, December, January until about mid-February,
00:23:45.980 consulting people on whether you should be able to schedule a death when you reach a threshold
00:23:53.300 according to whatever subjective criteria you devise, such as maybe a month passing by without
00:23:58.760 being able to recognize your children, and that would lead to a doctor taking the person's life,
00:24:05.920 the life of someone who's incapable of consenting at the moment of the so-called provision. This is
00:24:12.360 very dark and i want to mention why the government is doing it now the government is doing it now
00:24:17.560 according to the justice minister so that doctors who end patients lives by advance request will not
00:24:26.360 be treated as criminals he says this repeatedly throughout the press conference this is so that
00:24:32.800 doctors will not be regarded as criminals now why is the government doing this now well the media
00:24:40.000 reports there are currently more than 3 000 quebecers who have filed advance requests for
00:24:47.120 maid any doctor who's doing that is breaking federal law so there's probably some reluctance
00:24:53.720 and not enough doctors we now have a wait list for maid maid has been a way to prevent wait lists
00:25:03.300 in health care by ending the lives of the patients who are on them but now we even see a wait list
00:25:09.700 were made. And that's why the doctors are being made not criminally responsible for taking the
00:25:17.500 lives of those who are signing up for it. You know, one of the things about doctor-assisted
00:25:25.720 suicide is that the cause of death on the death certificate is not the euthanasia. It's not
00:25:33.220 however doctors end the life it's a lead it's it's actually deceptive it's the underlying complaint
00:25:40.240 that caused someone to attend so if someone is put to sleep if someone is killed because they
00:25:46.900 have dementia the euthanization is not written down the dementia is and and i think that's a
00:25:53.240 deliberate deception so that it is impossible to track and measure just how much of this happens
00:25:59.300 So my question is, I see estimates of how many people are killed by doctors in Canada, but I don't know if we can trust that number for the reason I just said. Do you have any stats on how frequent this is? I saw, for example, that it was in the top five causes of death. Now, I don't know if that statistic is accurate. Do you have any stats?
00:26:19.700 the last data that we really have the last year for which we have data is 2024 so we are behind
00:26:27.820 and in 2024 it was reported that euthanasia now accounts for one in 20 deaths in Canada and yes
00:26:36.200 is the fifth leading cause of death and it has become so normalized and people have become so
00:26:44.020 desensitized that if I'm in British Columbia or Quebec or Ontario giving a talk and I ask
00:26:50.700 the audience to raise their hands if they personally know someone who has died by MAID
00:26:55.520 or who is strongly considering it, sometimes 80% of hands go up. And it always shocks everyone in
00:27:01.980 the room because most of the time people think that their situation or the person they have in
00:27:07.300 mind is exceptional that surely they had an extenuating circumstance that if anyone were to
00:27:15.000 to warrant this uh it would be them but then they see all the hands of their their neighbors and
00:27:21.480 and friends going up and realize that this is completely changed our culture we now have this
00:27:30.180 extremely fearful response to what is completely natural human beings are going to die and how do
00:27:40.880 we face it and so this creates an entire shift in our culture it's touching every profession
00:27:47.800 it's touching people in so many ways they didn't expect and i think we really have to do some soul
00:27:53.340 searching as a country when we've prescribed death as a solution to suffering or to pain,
00:28:02.620 because we also know by government reports that the number one kind of suffering leading people
00:28:08.000 to request MAID is not actually pain, physical pain, or even the fear of pain in the future.
00:28:14.500 The number one kind of suffering by people's own admission, according to Health Canada reports,
00:28:19.100 is an inability to participate in meaningful life activities and then we have loss of autonomy loss
00:28:25.760 of dignity loss of independence and so these are existential reasons that really bear out that
00:28:31.700 euthanasia is not so much a medical crisis though we know there's a lot of problems with our
00:28:37.300 healthcare system and there are medical challenges there but it is an existential crisis it is a cry
00:28:42.900 of the heart where someone is saying if this happens to me if I get dementia if I have terminal
00:28:48.400 cancer who will love me then and if the answer to that question is well probably no one that would
00:28:56.000 be too too painful an answer to bear and so people in canada i suppose are preempting hearing that
00:29:03.060 answer of no one by scheduling their death in advance having that sham form of accompaniment
00:29:09.320 of a presence that lasts 15 minutes and is a killing presence rather than raising our aspirations
00:29:16.120 to the more noble form of accompaniment to keeping vigil and to being courageous in the face of
00:29:23.560 suffering and death which we will all experience i think you nailed it that is heartbreaking what
00:29:29.080 you just said you know we live in a disposable society i remember growing up you would see signs
00:29:33.820 you know vacuum repair shop tv repair shop that was when you used to fix things you didn't just
00:29:39.820 throw them out now i don't even know i don't even think those things exist people just throw things
00:29:44.600 out buy a new one and i think that disposable culture now applies to people and i think what
00:29:50.920 you're saying is that people apply it to themselves and if they're worried and i can understand and
00:29:55.620 that's the other side of the story sheila gun reed our chief reporter has done a documentary
00:30:00.040 on made and you were in it and she's just launched her new book called and you can find it on amazon
00:30:05.620 or at themadebook.com so we're very excited about sheila i don't know if she's formally announced
00:30:11.380 it it's called made the dark side of canadian compassion and look there this is actually a quite
00:30:17.100 a divisive issue for rebel news followers we have people who are with us on every issue down the
00:30:24.120 line but then they say you know you didn't see the pain of grandma you didn't see the fact that
00:30:29.540 she didn't recognize her own family and how dare you get in the way of what we thought was the most
00:30:36.320 painless solution what would you say to people like that i think you've already addressed it a
00:30:40.280 little bit but what if someone who's a who's a conservative person and you know a thoughtful
00:30:47.420 person would say look why are you sentencing them to have a final six months or year of pain
00:30:55.760 of dementia of uh you know the lack of ability to communicate in their traditional way
00:31:06.300 with their family, why are you getting in the way of them and a solution?
00:31:13.300 The first thing I would want to point out is an important distinction between
00:31:17.240 assisted suicide and euthanasia. Now, MAID was supposed to encompass both, and assisted suicide
00:31:22.780 is where the person has to self-administer. That's the only version that exists in the U.S.
00:31:28.580 In Canada, we also have direct euthanasia, which is specifically where the doctor
00:31:34.040 or nurse practitioner directly administers the lethal injection.
00:31:38.680 Got it. Okay. My terminology throughout this interview is not being precise.
00:31:42.440 So assisted suicide is the patient does it to themselves and there's maybe someone else there.
00:31:47.220 Euthanasia is like how you put down a dog, is what you say.
00:31:50.760 It's important to vary our language because I do think stressing, 0.81
00:31:55.540 varying the language so that we can build an understanding that that maid is,
00:32:00.220 as the former justice minister put it, a species of suicide.
00:32:03.240 But I raise this point because in Canada, in 2024, the last year for which we have federal data from Health Canada, 100% of made deaths were euthanasia, were the direct administration of the lethal injection by the doctor or nurse.
00:32:19.540 And people ask me all the time, why is Canada's euthanasia regime so kind of extreme? Why are people taking to it? Well, it's because of this outsourcing of the act.
00:32:31.580 Most people who are going through with it would not self-administer. And for people who care about freedom and autonomy, I think the involvement of the state and of doctors in this practice, in the direct taking of human life, in a moment of profound weakness and vulnerability, should give us great pause.
00:32:54.400 That's the first point. Now, secondly, to those who are considering it or think that this might be a reasonable way to go, or maybe they've experienced it and thought, well, it seems peaceful because, well, in fact, the person is sedated and paralyzed.
00:33:07.640 And so by all appearances, it seems for the bystander to be peaceful.
00:33:11.880 But we don't know what's going on interiorly for the person who is dying.
00:33:16.520 What I want to stress is that you deserve better.
00:33:20.640 Canadians deserve more.
00:33:22.100 we have to raise the care, both psychological and physical, that we provide to people at end
00:33:31.000 of life. Our palliative medicine, what we're capable of, is exceptional. But if people are
00:33:37.220 checking out of life, we're not improving our technological development, our medicine,
00:33:44.200 even disability supports. Because if, for example, nine out of 10 people, this is not the statistic,
00:33:50.500 but let's say 9 out of 10 people with ALS opt for MAID, then how free is that 10th person not to go through with it?
00:33:59.500 And also, what's going to be available for them in terms of support and resources?
00:34:03.280 And even more, how are they looked at when something like ALS becomes such a widespread reason for which people opt for MAID?
00:34:13.840 And this is what people with disabilities in Canada are really stressing.
00:34:17.580 one disability advocate Gabriel Peters has said that Canada has made disabled
00:34:24.540 people into a killable class. We can extend this now and see how persons with 1.00
00:34:31.080 dementia are being made into a killable class and some people would say some
00:34:35.520 freedom-loving people would say if this if you don't want made just don't get
00:34:40.920 made but there's a social toll because the fact of having criteria itself sends
00:34:47.400 sends a social message that there's a category of human beings who could just not exist.
00:34:52.340 And I speak to seniors and persons with disabilities, especially every single day, who tell me about
00:34:58.200 the toll it has on them simply to be told by the government that they fit a category
00:35:04.120 of social exclusion whereby they uniquely qualify for a state-sponsored suicide unlike
00:35:10.780 their neighbors who don't have that disability, chronic illness, neurological condition, dementia
00:35:16.320 diagnosis and so the criteria itself the ever expanding euthanasia criteria makes all of us
00:35:23.340 more precarious and that's why people who care about freedom ought to care about it as well
00:35:28.620 wow you know and it brings us back to what i was saying 20 minutes ago about the holocaust and you 0.51
00:35:36.340 pointed out it was the the devaluation of life and and the eugenics movement and well they're 0.88
00:35:42.500 not perfect so get rid of them and you know that it really is a dark path um what what resources 0.69
00:35:51.400 would what should someone read other than maybe sheila's book at the madebook.com but where
00:35:56.780 is there where would where would people go if they want to find out what alternatives there are
00:36:02.380 because when you've got everyone from the veterans affairs department telling vets that oh it's to
00:36:08.940 Turn off the lights now. We got nothing else for you. And some of the things you've just described.
00:36:15.060 Where can people get ideas on how to make a different choice and support to make a different choice?
00:36:21.840 Yes. Thankfully, there is a growing community of Canadians who are sensitive to these issues,
00:36:25.860 especially family members who have lost loved ones who are now determined to help find better
00:36:30.740 resources and social supports. I can recommend several existing organizations. There's the
00:36:36.200 Euthanasia Prevention Coalition that's been tracking euthanasia in Canada for about 27 years.
00:36:41.800 There's the Compassionate Community Care. Compassionate Community Care connects people
00:36:46.600 with resources in the moment. If someone has a family member or if someone individually is
00:36:51.580 struggling to get access to the resources they need, that's a great one. Inclusion Canada is a
00:36:57.160 leading disability rights organization that's constantly fighting at the highest levels
00:37:01.100 for better supports um and then you can also check out dying to meet you.com my website that has
00:37:07.840 a dozen vignettes of people's uh personal stories the adult grandchildren who have been affected by
00:37:14.680 losing their grandparents to maid the adult children speaking out about the toll that this
00:37:19.600 has on them and the havoc it wreaks on families people with disabilities and mental illness who
00:37:25.100 are generously sharing their story and also giving a new vocabulary to how we can address
00:37:30.800 these topics tactfully and in an increasingly secular society. I think, for example, of my
00:37:36.480 friend Benjamin, whose two grandmothers both died by maid, and when I asked him about the difference
00:37:42.120 that it made losing his grandmothers to maid and his grandfathers to natural death, he said it's
00:37:49.660 the choice of maid that hurts, because it leaves me with that question, did I not love you enough
00:37:55.580 to be worth sticking around for that that leaving a person on purpose is so wounding is so scathing
00:38:04.740 and so the most we can do is we can insist on uh how people deserve better the fact that you're in
00:38:11.320 the world means that you still have something to give means that your story isn't finished yet
00:38:16.320 and how your story ends is going to change the meaning of every page so don't shirk that
00:38:22.500 responsibility well another powerful comment you know we we know the arguments against suicide
00:38:30.180 regular suicide and you know the obvious ones are it can get better there there are other
00:38:36.040 alternatives but a serious one is why would you do this to people why would you take into your hands
00:38:43.860 remove yourself from your family your friends and others who like you who miss you who are connected
00:38:50.860 it to you and we can make that argument i think most people can make that argument pretty well
00:38:55.480 for let's say a young person who was about to jump off a bridge no stop and you can make a compelling
00:39:01.060 case i think the case is different but it's also similar i think there is a case to be made and
00:39:08.360 maybe people just don't know the case because this is a new frontier maybe uh it's become so
00:39:16.620 approved shockingly approved encouraged promoted funded normalized that we don't have our natural
00:39:24.780 instincts when we see someone about to jump off a bridge and we should stop and we don't have that
00:39:30.320 same natural instinct anymore when someone is in a wheelchair or whatnot but i find this very
00:39:36.700 difficult stuff and i'm glad you're out there fighting we're talking with amanda ackman she's
00:39:40.780 with dying to meet you.com is that the name of the website dying to meet you.com and of course
00:39:45.220 our own Sheila Gunn-Reed has her book out on Amazon right now called The Maid Book. Amanda,
00:39:50.380 we'll keep in touch on this important story. Thanks for taking the time with us.
00:39:53.740 Thank you.
00:39:54.360 All right, there she is, Amanda Ackman, dyingtomeetyou.com. Stay with us. More ahead.
00:40:07.500 Hey, I mentioned earlier that Sheila Gunn-Reed is a new book on MAID, 1.00
00:40:12.280 medical assistance in dying. Here's a letter from Elizabeth Erica, who says,
00:40:18.480 Government should have never passed the MAID policy in 2016. 20 years ago, if a doctor killed
00:40:23.500 their patients, the public would have been outraged, and now Canadians are accepting it
00:40:26.940 as a normal procedure. I feel sick to my stomach whenever I hear about somebody choosing MAID.
00:40:31.800 I've met far too many people who had a family member killed by MAID. What is sad is these
00:40:35.980 family members think it was okay. How far the Canadian public have fallen in the moral and
00:40:40.420 ethical reasoning of what is acceptable. Look, I know that there are some seniors who think,
00:40:46.120 well, I don't want to be a burden on my family, and I don't want to lose my faculties. I get it.
00:40:51.840 But since when do we say, okay, you're killable? And do you see the slippery slope? Do you see
00:40:57.020 what was happening in the Veterans Affairs Department? Veterans were calling up with PTSD.
00:41:01.340 Oh, have you thought of killing yourself? Have you thought of just getting out of here? Because, 0.92
00:41:05.080 by the way, we've got tight budgets, and you'd really be doing your fellow soldiers a favor
00:41:09.300 if you just offed yourself, that way we could save the budget.
00:41:12.920 Like, don't think that that's not a part of this.
00:41:15.180 I think it's really depressing.
00:41:17.280 Anyhow, check out Sheila's new book at themadebook.com.
00:41:21.400 That's our show for the day.
00:41:23.060 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:41:25.980 to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.
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