Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ The promised Republican 'red wave' is more like a puddle

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today, I pick through the carnage of last night's U.S. election midterms.

00:00:06.160 I'm a little disappointed. I think a lot of people are. We were expecting what they were

00:00:09.020 calling the red wave. It was more of a red puddle. And I don't think Trump performed as well as he

00:00:14.820 thought he would, as he should have done. The hero of the night, obviously, Ron DeSantis, and

00:00:19.680 that won't make Trump happy. I'll take you through it, some of my observations.

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00:00:57.520 Tonight, the promised Republican red wave was more like a puddle. I'll take you through

00:01:03.560 last night's U.S. midterm election results. It's November 9th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:09.800 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:15.220 Well, I was pretty optimistic heading into yesterday's midterm elections in the U.S.

00:01:29.420 I felt optimistic for a number of reasons. Not optimistic about the course of the United

00:01:35.120 States. Most Americans felt like the country was on the wrong track. We took you through that

00:01:39.360 detailed New York Times poll a couple weeks ago, and the reason I refer to it as a New York Times

00:01:43.980 poll is because if liberals are saying the country is upset with a Democratic president, you know

00:01:49.300 it's true. And I thought combined the bad economy, dangers in foreign affairs, and Joe Biden's poor

00:01:57.640 personal performance, I thought that is going to be a banner year for Republicans. And indeed,

00:02:02.360 the pollsters seem to say so, and the phrase red wave was in headlines everywhere. Makes sense. 0.97

00:02:09.940 The economy, jobs, inflation. That's what people care about versus, well, what exactly does Joe Biden

00:02:17.980 offer? Woke-ism. Reminders of the pandemic and lockdown. Biden has those awful cognitive moments

00:02:26.140 where he's blurry. He feels every day of his 78 years of age, he actually feels like he's 88.

00:02:33.840 Wars in the background in Ukraine, China saber-rattling, the embarrassing and costly exit from 0.75

00:02:41.840 Afghanistan, North Korea being more belligerent. It should have been a great election for the 1.00

00:02:48.920 Republicans, but it fizzled. They're still tabulating the votes in certain areas. It looks

00:02:56.680 like the Republicans will retake the House of Representatives, which is important. Looks,

00:03:01.580 though, like they're just tied in the Senate. Could go either way. So much for the red wave.

00:03:09.840 The star of the evening was clearly Ron DeSantis of Florida, the governor. Here's the front page of

00:03:14.280 the New York Post. I think they're exactly right. He won with a nearly 20-point margin over his rival,

00:03:21.760 Charlie Crist. Take a look at this graphic from the exit polls. Latino voters didn't just like

00:03:29.580 Ron DeSantis. They loved him. Obviously, Cubans are against socialism, but even Puerto Ricans and

00:03:36.540 other Latinos were for Ron DeSantis, the Republican. You know, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez is a white person's 1.00

00:03:46.140 idea of what Latinos want. Ron DeSantis is a Latino person's idea about what Latinos want. 0.72

00:03:53.300 He doesn't use ridiculous words like Latinx. He doesn't pander with open borders immigration. He 0.92

00:04:00.480 just gives them good government and freedom. It's amazing. He lifted the whole state with him,

00:04:07.480 and incredibly, he won Miami-Dade County. Overwhelmingly Hispanic. Used to be the Democrat 1.00

00:04:15.520 Party's firewall in that state. Now it's a more conservative state than Texas. Let that sink in.

00:04:22.940 The Republican margin in Florida was much higher than it was in neighboring Texas.

00:04:29.740 Here's a clip from DeSantis' speech last night. He looked great with his family, his wife, Casey,

00:04:35.840 who has recovered from cancer. Take a look at that lovely family. What a moment.

00:04:40.280 Well, thank you so much. You know, over these past four years, we've seen major challenges for the

00:04:47.460 people of our state, for the citizens of the United States, and above all, for the cause of freedom.

00:04:53.680 We saw freedom in our very way of life, and so many other jurisdictions in this country

00:04:59.780 wither on the vine. Florida held the line.

00:05:04.080 We chose facts over fear. We chose education over indoctrination.

00:05:18.800 We chose law and order over rioting and disorder.

00:05:25.200 Florida was a refuge of sanity when the world went mad. We stood as a citadel of freedom for people

00:05:32.760 across this country and, indeed, across the world.

00:05:39.960 We faced attacks. We took the hits. We weathered the storms. But we stood our ground.

00:05:49.720 We did not back down. We had the conviction to guide us, and we had the courage to lead.

00:05:56.440 We made promises.

00:06:03.640 We made promises to the people of Florida, and we have delivered on those promises.

00:06:10.280 And so today, after four years, the people have delivered their verdict. Freedom is here to stay.

00:06:24.980 If you ask me what Ron DeSantis stands for, if you ask anyone, I think it's easy to answer. He stands

00:06:32.740 for freedom, as opposed to the authoritarian approach of the lockdowns. He's against wokeism.

00:06:39.460 He's for law and order. He's a policy man, and he also has a style of firmness.

00:06:45.680 He doesn't pander to the media. He doesn't mess around with powerful interests. When Disney took

00:06:51.200 a run at him, he took away Disneyland's special legal status without blinking. Oh, you can't do that?

00:06:58.000 Well, he did. That was the bright part of the map for the Republicans. Other parts were terribly

00:07:05.520 disappointing. John Fetterman, who was running for the Senate in Pennsylvania,

00:07:12.640 had a stroke a few months ago. And for a while, he kept it secret. Then it was revealed. He can't form

00:07:22.240 full sentences. He can't understand things. He needs them written out, typed out in a kind of

00:07:28.240 walking subtitle machine. He was up against a slick, intelligentsic Republican named Dr. Oz from TV.

00:07:37.200 And Fetterman, with a stroke, won in Pennsylvania. How? How?

00:07:47.280 Arizona, another state the Republicans thought they could pick up. Blake Masters, a freedom-oriented

00:07:53.040 America firster affiliated with Peter Thiel, the only libertarian in Silicon Valley. He ran and

00:07:59.600 didn't win. Carrie Lake ran. Now, it's still so close for Carrie Lake, and she's fighting that. Again,

00:08:07.840 what kind of a country takes so long to count their ballots? New York State, one of the most

00:08:15.280 progressive places in America. Wow. Lee Zeldin, the Republican contender, came very close to knocking

00:08:23.120 off the appointed Democrat governor. Remember, she took over after Governor Cuomo had metooed himself

00:08:32.160 out of office. Now, I went to bed last night, disappointed that Zeldin's insurgency wasn't 0.84

00:08:37.680 successful. But I'm reminded that more than a million votes were not yet counted last night.

00:08:44.560 Is this a third world country where they just have a million votes sitting around?

00:08:48.880 The state of Georgia has been painful for any Republican. It was the site of a

00:08:54.320 double loss in 2020. Two seats went Democrat that day. One of them was up again last night.

00:09:03.360 The Republicans ran Herschel Walker, a former football star. He did not win, but neither did

00:09:10.480 the Democrat, Raphael Warnock, who both of them were just under the 50 percent mark. In Arizona law,

00:09:17.520 if you don't win 50 percent, they have a runoff again. So there will be another election. I am not

00:09:24.720 optimistic. Interestingly, in a statewide vote, the one where Herschel Walker did not hit 50 percent,

00:09:35.040 the Republican governor did. He actually won fairly handily. How did the local governor win

00:09:42.960 as a Republican? But Herschel Walker did more poorly than him. But back to what I said earlier,

00:09:50.080 what's up with not knowing the results in hours? I take it that Georgia law says there has to be

00:09:56.400 a runoff. That's not a problem with counting. But how is it that you have a million uncounted votes in

00:10:01.280 New York? How is it that Arizona says they're going to need days or even weeks to count? I saw this video

00:10:08.400 go up yesterday in the middle of the day, and I thought they're getting started already. Take a

00:10:12.880 look at this. Hello, Maricopa County. I'm Bill Gates, the chairman of the Maricopa County Board of

00:10:18.240 Supervisors. And I'm Stephen Richard, the Maricopa County Recorder. And we're here to give you an

00:10:23.600 update on how things are going so far with the election. We've already had almost 44,000 people

00:10:29.520 show up this morning, check in and be available to vote. And things are going great out there. But

00:10:35.520 there's one thing that we wanted to address to make people aware of today. And that has to do with our

00:10:40.960 tabulators. We've got about 20% of the locations out there where there's an issue with the tabulator,

00:10:48.560 where some of the ballots that after people have voted them, they try and run them through the

00:10:53.120 tabulator, and they're not going through. But the good thing is, is we do, first of all,

00:10:58.320 we're trying to fix this problem as quickly as possible. And we also have a redundancy in place.

00:11:03.920 If you can't put the ballot in the tabulator, then you can simply place it here in where you see the

00:11:10.560 number three. And this is a secure box where those ballots will be kept for later this evening, where

00:11:17.440 we'll bring them in here to central count to tabulate them. So this would function much like early voting

00:11:23.440 functions in that we would get your ballot back. Once we've signature verified it, we would

00:11:28.240 send it to our central tabulators. Ballots that are in here will already be in effect signature

00:11:33.920 verified. So we won't need to confirm identity, but we will central tabulate them. This is actually

00:11:38.720 what the majority of Arizona counties do on election day all the time. And just one thing to keep in mind,

00:11:45.760 we have 223 vote centers across the county. So if there are long lines at the location you're at,

00:11:52.960 or issues with the tabulator, if you would prefer to go to another location, you can do that. Doesn't

00:11:58.320 matter where you go, as long as you're a registered voter here in Maricopa County. Thanks so much.

00:12:03.440 And everybody who haven't yet, get out and vote. What a joke. What a clown show. How about just using

00:12:08.960 paper and pencil? You know, election integrity are two words you're not allowed to say. In fact,

00:12:15.760 if you say them in the wrong way on YouTube or other social media, you'll get a strike. You'll be

00:12:21.040 deplatformed. It's very strange. You're not allowed to say that US elections are not reliable. At least

00:12:26.400 you're not allowed to say that about the 2020 election. Democrats say that all the time about

00:12:31.680 elections that Republicans win. I remember it first when George W. Bush beat Al Gore and they

00:12:38.080 looked at the hanging chads and that case went to the Supreme Court for years. Democrats said that

00:12:43.360 George W. Bush was not the legitimate president. They called him a usurper.

00:12:49.040 That's all fine to say on social media, but you can't say that about Democrat shenanigans.

00:12:54.480 I want to show you a quick clip from our live stream last night. I can't even believe this.

00:13:00.080 No ID, just saying your name, saying your phone number or your address and your vote. Take a look.

00:13:05.920 I don't think Canadians even realize when I went to vote today, all I was asked is,

00:13:11.120 what is your last name? And then they're like, this is your first name. I'm like, yes. And they're

00:13:15.440 like, this is your address. I'm like, yes. And then they just printed out a little receipt,

00:13:19.600 had me sign it. And then I got my ballot and I voted and I put it in the scanner and I left.

00:13:25.200 But who's to say if you know someone's first and last name and you know their address,

00:13:31.520 what could stop you from voting for them? Because she didn't have a computer. It was like,

00:13:36.000 just like a piece of paper with all the people in my area because I'm on a smaller precinct.

00:13:41.040 There was no voter ID check. There's none of that going on like it does in Canada.

00:13:45.840 And I'm just shocked every time I vote here being like, this is so weird.

00:13:50.880 Yeah, that really is weird. That's that's terrifying. I mean,

00:13:53.680 you went in there in good faith and no shenanigans, but I could only imagine.

00:13:57.120 So they literally didn't ask you for any any card or any idea. No, you don't need it. You just need to be

00:14:04.000 registered to vote. And if you're registered to vote, you just go where you're supposed to go.

00:14:09.040 Like because like you have them and for your specific area, you go there, you're on a list.

00:14:13.760 They check you off that you've done it. You sign a little thing saying like, yep,

00:14:17.920 this is me. And then you go and get your ballot. Can you believe that? I can't. There's just,

00:14:23.040 you know, you need more ID to buy a lottery ticket than to vote.

00:14:28.320 Now, Donald Trump was not on the ballot, of course, but he was certainly looking in the

00:14:32.400 background and he stumped for Republican candidates around the country. Certainly,

00:14:37.120 he was more welcome at Republican events than Joe Biden was at Democrat events. Now,

00:14:42.400 today, Donald Trump was boasting, saying that the vast majority of candidates for whom he

00:14:48.400 endorsed or campaigned won. And I think that is mathematically accurate. It's the exact same

00:14:54.800 message that the New York Times has when they say 200 election deniers won. That's a term of art at

00:15:02.720 the New York Times. They call anyone who doubts the results of the 2020 election, they call them

00:15:08.320 election deniers, sort of like a Holocaust denier. That's their phrase. I think there's a symbiosis

00:15:15.280 between Donald Trump and the liberal media like the New York Times. They love to fight each other.

00:15:20.480 And so if Donald Trump says something to inspire his base, the New York Times says it to inflame their

00:15:27.040 base in reaction. It's quite something. But it is a fact that key people that Donald Trump endorsed

00:15:34.880 underperformed. Dr. Oz, the Republican candidate in Pennsylvania, how could he not beat a stroke

00:15:43.680 victim? And the governor candidate of that state, how could he not win?

00:15:52.160 Blake Masters and, of course, Herschel Walker, we mentioned before. I think one of the reasons is

00:15:57.440 that Donald Trump keeps talking about 2020 and how he was wronged. And perhaps he was. I'm sympathetic to

00:16:05.040 that. And that New York Times poll we went through the other week showed that probably about a third of

00:16:09.920 Americans are sympathetic to that too. But re-litigating the details, the ins and outs of that debate,

00:16:18.160 that's inside baseball in 2022 in a country that is on the verge of a recession, has record inflation,

00:16:26.960 and has real crises that affect real people. It was an interesting night. It was certainly not the

00:16:33.200 success I hoped it would be for Republicans. And it makes me think, what will the big show in 2024 be

00:16:39.040 like in the presidential season? On the one hand, you could have Ron DeSantis, a successful governor

00:16:48.320 who can turn a purple state, as they call those sort of half and half states, into a red state with super

00:16:55.920 majorities in the legislature. They can pass anything they want now. There are no statewide offices

00:17:02.800 in Florida held by Democrats. Democrats are almost an extinct species in Florida.

00:17:09.200 DeSantis is a strong media game. He's not a pushover. He's young, especially by comparison to Trump.

00:17:16.080 He's very policy oriented. He reminds me in some ways of Stephen Harper. He's not very cool and not

00:17:21.520 very funny, but he's solid. Ron DeSantis was a winner last night. But he's not the most likely candidate

00:17:28.880 for the Republicans. That's Trump himself, a man of controversy and division. Now, I love Trump.

00:17:36.080 I was one of the few Canadians who saw in him the ability to beat the Democrats in 2015. I think we

00:17:42.320 were really the only media outlet in Canada that was cheering for him. And that fit the times in 2015

00:17:48.800 and 2016. It was the right approach to beat Hillary Clinton, which he did. And I don't think any other

00:17:54.080 Republican candidate would have. I love many of the things he did as president, not all the things,

00:17:59.600 but many of them. And I think Republicans now are looking their wounds or counting their wins and

00:18:06.480 thinking, which is the right candidate for 2024? Now, of course, it's possible that another possibility

00:18:14.640 presents itself, another candidate. But I think DeSantis and Trump are the two serious contenders.

00:18:20.640 Trump sees DeSantis looming behind him. We know that because at a rally this week,

00:18:28.960 he gave DeSantis a mean nickname. Remember this?

00:18:33.120 Trump at 71. Ron DeSanctimonious at 10 percent. Mike Pence at seven. Oh, Mike's doing better than I

00:18:41.200 thought. He later pulled that back and he acknowledged that he, in fact, did vote for DeSantis. I don't know if

00:18:47.600 you saw this clip here. I think a lot of his own base said, why are you sniping at our most successful

00:18:56.400 governor in America on the eve of an election? Trump, his whole brand, not just as president,

00:19:03.440 but for years in business and showbiz was Trump is a winner. Remember when he said you'll win so much

00:19:11.040 with him, you'll get tired of winning? If we want America to thrive in the 21st century,

00:19:18.080 then we must stop running from the competition. And instead, we must start totally winning and

00:19:25.760 winning and winning again. Remember what I used to say? We're going to win so much.

00:19:31.920 We're going to win that the people of Missouri are going to go to your governor and they're going to

00:19:36.160 say, Governor, please go see the president. We can't stand winning so much. Remember,

00:19:41.840 I used to say that, right? I used to say it and that's what's happening.

00:19:49.600 That's what's happening.

00:19:54.240 And then the governor is going to come to that beautiful historic Oval Office. He's going to say

00:19:59.280 to me, Mr. President, the people of Missouri cannot stand all that's winning. They don't want to win

00:20:09.360 so much. They love the old way where they had lousy job numbers, lousy economic numbers,

00:20:17.120 lousy. They loved it. Please, Mr. President, please not. And I'll say, Governor,

00:20:23.520 I don't care what they say in Missouri. We're going to keep winning and winning and winning.

00:20:27.440 America loved to win. Make America great again was about winning, about winning wars or better

00:20:35.520 yet not getting into them, about winning trade negotiations, about winning economically, about

00:20:40.480 winning market share, about winning everything instead of losing or retreating. That's the Trump

00:20:48.240 brand. That's his casinos. That's his luxury real estate and hotels. But what if Trump actually

00:20:55.840 isn't a winner anymore? That would be like salt that loses its saltiness? What is left? If Trump

00:21:03.360 isn't the winner, what's there? Which would you like to see in 2024? Would you like to see a matchup,

00:21:10.880 a second matchup between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton? Oh, it's possible. It's possible.

00:21:17.040 Which would be more likely to win, Trump versus Hillary round two or DeSantis versus Hillary? 0.96

00:21:25.920 What if it was DeSantis versus his rival governor, California's Gavin Newsom? Would you like to see

00:21:33.920 DeSantis in such a matchup? Would you like to see Donald Trump run against Newsom?

00:21:38.000 In 2016, Donald Trump was the only Republican tough enough and smart enough and savvy enough

00:21:46.800 to win, to beat the real enemy, not the Democrats, but the media party. Is that true now?

00:21:57.280 Last night's results tell me that maybe it's not. And maybe Donald Trump, as great as he was and as

00:22:03.200 accomplished as he is, maybe it's time for him to pass the baton to Ron DeSantis, a winner who wins.

00:22:13.120 Stay with us for more.

00:22:25.760 Well, as you know, Rebel News has been focused on a number of stories like a laser,

00:22:30.080 including the Trucker Commission of Inquiry in Ottawa. As you know, we've actually rented an Airbnb

00:22:35.440 near the Commission of Inquiry that we've turned into a base camp and mobile studio. Well, it's not

00:22:40.800 mobile, but it's a pop-up studio in Ottawa. Every night at 6 p.m. Eastern, we've had a live stream

00:22:47.040 covering the events of the day, interviewing lawyers, witnesses, Tamara Leach, some of the truckers.

00:22:52.960 It's been amazing. We've been focused on the U.S. election a little bit, and of course,

00:22:58.320 some of our adventures overseas, including to the World Health Summit at Berlin and the

00:23:04.160 C40 conference in Buenos Aires. But there are important subjects that I'm not sure if we've

00:23:09.440 given enough attention to. And I think it's because the mainstream media and mainstream political parties

00:23:16.160 don't really want to talk about them. And of course, our motto here at Rebel News is telling the

00:23:21.360 other side of the story. So we believe in a diversity of opinions. And our next guest certainly fills

00:23:27.360 those shoes. I'm talking about Maxime Bernier, the leader of the People's Party of Canada, who joins us

00:23:32.640 now from Ottawa. Maxime, great to see you again. Thank you for taking the time. Appreciate you joining us.

00:23:38.000 There's a lot of things to talk about that really aren't covered well in the mainstream. Am I right?

00:23:43.040 Yes, you're right, Israel. And it's good that Canadians can turn to the Rebel News and listening

00:23:50.720 the other point of view and the common sense point of view, I must say.

00:23:55.280 Well, I appreciate you joining us. One subject that I know we've talked about a lot in the past,

00:24:00.240 including the Roxham Road open border. Well, Roxham Road has had tens of thousands of people cross it.

00:24:08.640 But Justin Trudeau's government has announced his plans to legally bring in half a million

00:24:17.520 immigrants a year, which is a stunning number. That's got to be more than any other democracy in 0.66

00:24:22.880 the world. And I just think of how that would affect things from wages to to housing prices. But I

00:24:31.520 haven't seen any commentary or criticism of this from other political parties or even other mainstream

00:24:37.280 media. What is your take? What is the People's Party of Canada's take on a record half million

00:24:44.080 migrants a year coming to Canada? Yes, Israel, I must say that you are right saying that, you know, 1.00

00:24:51.360 all these establishment national political parties, you know, the conservative, the NDP and the Green,

00:24:57.120 the Bloc Québécois, they won't speak about that. The every each of one agreed with that position of

00:25:03.920 half a million people starting in 2025. And for us, we are saying it's mass immigration. Yes,

00:25:11.680 we must have sustainable immigration. But we believe that we must have lower immigration than that 0.98

00:25:19.360 number. And actually, you know, half a million, it is the population of Newfoundland every year in

00:25:26.720 Canada. Every year we'll have a new Newfoundland in Canada, starting at 2025. So that being said,

00:25:34.800 they're saying always more and more people, it would be important for economic growth. You know,

00:25:41.040 you don't need to have more people to have prosperity and economic growth. There's a small countries that

00:25:46.880 are very prosperous. The most important is to increase our purchasing power, our standard of living.

00:25:53.520 And and, you know, if mass immigration were a solution for that, Trudeau started mass immigration

00:26:00.560 in 2019 with 350,000 people and after 400,000 people. And we still have, you know, inflation in

00:26:10.480 this country and and our purchasing power is going down. So what they are saying more and more people

00:26:16.800 will bring more prosperity. That's not the case. You said it's like bringing in a new Newfoundland

00:26:23.440 every year. That's statistically right. But of course, they're not going to Newfoundland. I think

00:26:30.000 the majority of them are going to Toronto, Vancouver. Some French speaking migrants would 0.99

00:26:35.840 probably go to Montreal. So they're really going to the big cities, which is understandable because

00:26:40.800 many of these folks are coming from ethnic communities that they would probably want to

00:26:45.760 live in or amongst or near. So what you're really doing is you're pouring probably 300, 400,000 of

00:26:54.240 these people into the housing markets in Vancouver and Toronto, which are already two of the most

00:27:01.440 expensive cities in North America to live in. I mean, the average housing prices in Toronto is well over

00:27:07.520 a million dollars for an average house. Same in Vancouver. I don't know why people don't make the

00:27:14.400 connection between supply and demand. Like you bring in half a million more people a year, you're going to

00:27:21.120 need hundreds of thousands of houses in addition to existing housing requirements. I don't know how

00:27:29.280 Trudeau or anyone can claim to talk about the cost of housing while almost doubling immigration.

00:27:37.120 Yes, you're right, Ezra. And you know, half a million, it's a lot of people. And actually,

00:27:44.400 I was able to watch an interview that Pierre Poliev did with the National Post two days ago,

00:27:50.800 and he said this country is a huge country. So they can go, you know, in, I don't know, Newfoundland

00:27:57.680 and other places. But the reality is, and you were right about that, 42% of them, if you look at the

00:28:03.760 data and the statistic, 42% of them are going to Toronto and Vancouver, these two big cities. So yes,

00:28:12.560 that has an impact on the prices of houses over there. And the solution to that is to have sustainable

00:28:20.880 immigration. But these establishment political parties won't speak about that. Poliev is saying,

00:28:27.280 you know, we must force municipalities to change their bylaws. You know, that's not respecting the

00:28:33.120 constitution. The easy answer to the prices of houses that is going up in Toronto and Vancouver

00:28:40.560 is to stop mass immigration. And like that, that will help. And actually, the finance minister said

00:28:48.240 that in an interview a couple of months ago. She said it's mathematical. We need to have fewer people,

00:28:54.720 or we need to build more houses. So the solution is fewer people. And, and actually, when you when

00:29:02.240 we are seeing that, when when these people are going to Toronto and Vancouver, people living in

00:29:08.720 Toronto and Vancouver are leaving these cities, they are selling their houses over there, and they are

00:29:15.280 going to another town or another cities, and prices of houses is going up in these cities. So so that's

00:29:23.280 very important, we need to have fewer immigrants. And we cannot tell them, you know, don't go to 1.00

00:29:29.520 Toronto or Vancouver, we cannot dictate them where to go. We need to have people that will be with us

00:29:37.600 because they believe in Canadian values, they will share our values, and they will come here to work.

00:29:42.800 But actually, if you look at the data right now, only 26% of them are immigrants that are coming to

00:29:50.560 Canada, they're economic immigrants, that means that, you know, that person will have a job in 0.98

00:29:56.800 this country, because an entrepreneur was not able to find a Canadian for that job. 26% of skilled

00:30:02.720 immigrants, we must increase that and having fewer refugees. And like you said, people who are crossing 1.00

00:30:10.320 the border in my own province in Quebec, illegally 20,000 of them, since the beginning of this year,

00:30:17.040 20,000, they're crossing the border. Do you really believe Israel that their life is in danger

00:30:22.480 in the state of New York, when they're crossing with Gucci's and big luggages? No, they're coming

00:30:28.720 here. And they are not respecting our borders, they if they want to come, they can come crossing the 0.99

00:30:36.320 official point of entry. And they won't do that. Because we will tell them, you know, you're not a

00:30:41.760 refugee, you have to go back to the States. And and we are the only party that is saying we must stop 1.00

00:30:47.600 that. And I said during the last campaign, we must have a fence, not a wall, just a fence over there,

00:30:53.840 and telling them if you want to cross and come to Canada, you all will come. But you just have to cross

00:30:59.520 maybe 500 meters at your at your right, and you'll have you'll have an official point of entry, and you

00:31:10.640 can you'll be able to cross, but we'll ask you the real questions. You are not a refugee, you must go 1.00

00:31:15.920 back. But because of that agreement with the US, if they cross an unofficial port of entry, they can

00:31:22.080 claim that they are refugees, and we cannot tell them go back to the US. So that's why we need to have a 1.00

00:31:27.040 fence. But you know, it's you cannot speak like that in this country. It's not politically correct.

00:31:32.880 But we are doing politics differently. And we need to acknowledge that.

00:31:39.920 Now, you said that only 26% of these migrants are economic class. Can I ask where you got that

00:31:45.200 statistic from? That's actually a shocking statistic. It suggests that, you know, more than 300,000 people

00:31:51.680 a year will be dependent. They'll either be on on welfare, or maybe they will eventually find jobs.

00:31:58.880 But but if 74% of those half million people are not economic migrants, then all the arguments for

00:32:07.360 mass immigration that the liberals and others put forward are are not, well, they don't stand up.

00:32:13.920 Where's that figure from that 26%.

00:32:15.840 Yes, thank you for asking. In the 75%, you have the refugees, you have the people coming on the 1.00

00:32:23.840 reunification of family. When you're speaking about reunification of family, it's the it's the big

00:32:29.120 family. You know, we we agree that if we are a skilled worker, and you want to come here, you can come

00:32:36.240 and you can bring your wife or your husband and your children. That's the immediate family. But that's not 0.54

00:32:42.960 what is happening on the reunification of family, you can have your brother, your sister, your

00:32:47.280 grandmom, your granddad, we must stop that. But also, if you are a skilled immigrant, and you are coming 1.00

00:32:53.600 here, you are the one that will work, your wife or husband won't work, and your children won't work.

00:33:00.240 So it's why, you know, under the skilled immigrants, usually, it's only that skilled person. And if you 1.00

00:33:07.520 count only that skilled person, it will be 26%. And because the immediate family won't work here in

00:33:15.200 our country. But the data coming from the government, they are including the skilled immigrant and his or

00:33:22.240 her immediate family. That's why they can tell you that, oh, about 50% of them are skilled immigrants.

00:33:28.640 That's not real. The real number is if you count only that skilled immigrant, it's 26%. And we are we are in

00:33:35.600 agreement that that person can bring his immediate family. But we must know that, you know, the wife

00:33:41.760 usually or the husband won't work and they are not coming here because we need that person to help us

00:33:48.000 to build our economy. They're coming here because the husband or wife was a skilled immigrant. So that's 0.98

00:33:54.000 a big difference. But the official and if you look at the official data, that's the real statistic. 26% of

00:34:00.880 them are skilled immigrants that when they will cross our border, they will have a job and they

00:34:06.400 will work work immediately. And usually, if you look at the data coming from statistics Canada,

00:34:12.560 it will take between five and 10 years for the other members of the family to work in our country.

00:34:20.800 Well, I tell you, just this conversation we've been having for the last 10 minutes is a conversation

00:34:26.640 that really is nowhere in this country. It's certainly not in parliament. It's not in the

00:34:30.400 opposition parties and it's not in the media. I think that the only people who are skeptical about

00:34:36.480 mass immigration are the people. Every poll I've ever seen says that people think the number is

00:34:41.760 too high. Angus Reid does an annual survey on this and and it's practically 10 to 1 and and yet there is

00:34:48.720 no voice opposing it. I want to talk about another controversial subject about which there's even more

00:34:55.760 more conformity, a subject that if you dare to have even a nuanced point of view, not only are you

00:35:02.160 called wrong, which is fine, but you're called a foreign agent of disinformation. And I'm talking about

00:35:10.720 Russia's invasion of Ukraine. And of course, I'm against the invasion. I'm against any war. I mean,

00:35:16.560 certainly against an invasion by Vladimir Putin, a former KGB agent who I think has imperial intentions.

00:35:23.280 I'm obviously sympathetic to the Ukrainian victims of this war. That's the battleground.

00:35:31.440 But how to handle this war, how to respond to it, I think is the subject of a fair debate. I don't

00:35:38.000 think we've had that debate in Canada. Any questions about it are being called disloyal. What is your

00:35:44.000 position on the war in Ukraine? What should Canada do, if anything? And do you have a comment on anything

00:35:51.760 Trudeau has said and done about this war? Yeah, we must. It's not our war. We must just stop

00:35:59.680 everything that we are doing. The Canada, our country is giving money to Ukraine. We are helping

00:36:06.160 Ukraine armies. It's not our war. And and like you, you know, I'm not for that invasion. You know,

00:36:14.080 I'm not a pro Putin. But when you're speaking about peace and prosperity in our country,

00:36:19.040 the mainstream media would all Bernier is a pro Putin. No, you just have to look at the history

00:36:24.560 of our country. And the history of our country is a country that is a middle power that will fight

00:36:30.320 for peace and prosperity. And, you know, we were not part of the war in Iraq. And I believe that

00:36:36.960 took the right decision at that time. And and we need to promote peace. We need to promote a diplomatic

00:36:43.440 solution in Ukraine. We are the only, like you said, national political party that is not pro war.

00:36:50.800 We are pro peace. And if you look at what happened in the past and if you know the history,

00:36:56.960 Khrushchev tried to have a missile in Cuba in 1962. Actually, last October, that was the 60th anniversary of

00:37:06.320 the Cuba crisis. And at that time, Kennedy said, No, we don't want a communist country that will have

00:37:14.560 missile at our doors. And, you know, that was a big crisis. And at the end, Khrushchev decided not to

00:37:22.960 go ahead with that plan to have missiles in Cuba. And we said, Okay, and when I'm saying we the Western

00:37:30.240 world and the US said, Okay, and and that was it. But we must remember that Putin was saying the same

00:37:37.520 thing couple of years and months ago, he said, I don't want any missile on the in Ukraine, it will

00:37:44.400 be at my doors. And we are pushing we the Western world are pushing Ukraine to be part of NATO. If

00:37:52.400 Ukraine is part of NATO, we will have a NATO base in Ukraine at the doors of of Russia.

00:38:00.240 And you know, what was good for for us in 1962 must be good. Also, in 2022, we must remember that.

00:38:08.800 So let's have a discussion. Let's put all these parties around the same table to have a peaceful

00:38:15.520 discussion. But, you know, it's not mainstream saying that because it's not politically correct.

00:38:21.200 And for us, I believe that would be the best thing for our country to promote peace and prosperity in

00:38:27.520 Ukraine. And it's not our war, we not must not be part of that. But these politicians, establishment

00:38:33.840 politicians are, you know, because we have 1 million Canadians from Ukraine origin, and they are

00:38:40.640 pandering to, to them. And that's why I believe we are part of that war right now, we can say no to

00:38:48.800 NATO like Chrétien did. And that must be the position of our country. And it's too bad that it is not.

00:38:56.080 But you can count on us, we will always fight for what is good for this party, for this for this country,

00:39:02.000 sorry, and this party. You know, I remember when Justin Trudeau was running for prime minister

00:39:10.080 before he won his first election. And he was asked about Canada's CF-18s, which were engaged

00:39:17.360 against the ISIS terrorist group. And one of the very first things Trudeau did before he was even

00:39:23.440 officially sworn in as prime minister, is he told Barack Obama at the time that Canada was pulling our

00:39:30.320 CF-18s out. And Obama wanted Trudeau to keep them in. And I remember Trudeau saying, mocking generals,

00:39:39.280 pulling out their CF-18s and seeing how big they are, like he was making fun of warmongers. Here's a

00:39:45.200 quick clip of that. So will you be Jean Chrétien though, you still want to see the proof is the proof

00:39:51.040 is the proof, or are you pretty well made up your mind that it would be better for us to stay in a

00:39:55.840 non-combat role?

00:39:56.480 I haven't made up my mind, but the onus is on Mr. Harper to demonstrate that a shift from a

00:40:02.800 non-combat role that we've established right now to a combat role is the right thing for Canada, 0.75

00:40:10.400 the right thing for Canadians, but also the right thing for the international community.

00:40:16.160 There are an awful lot of things that Canada can and should be doing. I mean, look, think about

00:40:20.720 think about Canada's reputation around the world and what we've done around refugees.

00:40:25.120 Whether it be the Vietnamese boat people, whether it be the Ismailis in Uganda, in East Africa, 0.91

00:40:35.920 whether it be even more recently the Tamil community fleeing a civil war in Sri Lanka.

00:40:44.720 You know, Canada has been a place that draws in and helps refugees in a significant and serious 1.00

00:40:52.080 way. Now, in this situation, we're talking about hundreds of thousands of displaced peoples in

00:40:56.880 the region who aren't looking to all, you know, leave the region. That's where their homes are. They

00:41:02.000 need support to get through this very, very difficult time. Canada has a capacity and an expertise in doing

00:41:09.040 just that. Why aren't we talking more about that? Why aren't we talking more about the kind of humanitarian aid

00:41:14.800 that Canada can and must be engaged in rather than, you know, trying to whip out our CF-18s and show

00:41:20.720 them how big they are? You know, it just doesn't work like that in Canada.

00:41:25.360 So here was Justin Trudeau, who was very sympathetic, frankly, to returning ISIS terrorists. He said we

00:41:33.520 have something to learn from them. I mean, here's that clip on CTV.

00:41:37.200 While other countries are prosecuting citizens who went abroad to fight for ISIS, Trudeau believes

00:41:42.400 some returning home to Canada can still be rehabilitated. There's a range of experiences

00:41:47.280 when people come home and we know that actually someone who has engaged and turned away from that

00:41:56.640 hateful ideology can be an extraordinarily powerful voice for preventing radicalization in future

00:42:05.120 generations. That was a shocking thing for him to say. So he was soft on Islamic terrorism with the

00:42:10.880 Islamic State. He pulled out our CF-18s from that battle, even though Barack Obama specifically asked

00:42:17.200 him for it. He denigrated our armed forces. But suddenly that peacenik sounds like a veritable

00:42:25.040 warmonger. I mean, Canada used to be a peacekeeping country. That was one of the liberal brands.

00:42:30.160 I just don't recognize this prime minister we have. He's so butch all of a sudden. He sounds like 0.94

00:42:36.880 an army general. I just don't know why the Justin Trudeau of seven years ago, who was mocking militarism

00:42:43.760 and generals, is now breaking out as toy soldiers and moving them all over the map. I find it unusual.

00:42:51.120 And you must also remember, Ezra, that we didn't have also the right equipment for our Canadian forces.

00:42:58.240 We did that war in Afghanistan. And at that time, I was foreign affairs minister.

00:43:03.040 And I was begging my counterparts, other foreign affairs ministers all across the world to help us

00:43:10.000 in Afghanistan with resources, with plane, because our Canadian forces didn't have the right equipment,

00:43:16.240 and they still don't. So let's, you know, put more money and respect our signature when we said we

00:43:25.120 need to spend 2% of our GDP in our Canadian forces. And we must do that, you know, having a plan to do

00:43:31.280 that. We won't be able to do that in the first year, but we must have a plan to increase and give

00:43:36.560 our Canadian forces the right resources and equipment. But now we are, you know, spending money in Ukraine

00:43:45.200 and sending our equipment over there. We must not do that. And yes, you're right. This country has been

00:43:52.720 known as a peacekeeper. And I believe that is the solution for that crisis that we have in Ukraine

00:44:00.400 right now. But I don't understand Trudeau. And Trudeau is not in line with the Liberals. And also the NDP,

00:44:06.000 Ezra, the NDP under Ed Bradburn, they were fighting for peace and prosperity. And now the NDP and Trudeau

00:44:15.440 and the Conservatives and the Bloc Québécois and the Greens, they are in that war. And you must save

00:44:21.760 Ukraine. It's not our war. We must not be part of that. Well, that's certainly a contrarian point of

00:44:28.800 view. And I know it'll get you labeled a foreign agent. I think it already has. I know the University of

00:44:34.640 Calgary, Professor Boucher, Trudeau's disinformation czar has called you a Putin agent. He's called me

00:44:41.280 that, too. I'm not a Putin agent. In fact, I've written a whole book condemning him and Gazprom.

00:44:46.880 But the fact that I don't bend the knee to Trudeau, I guess we've been labeled. Well, listen, Maxi Burti,

00:44:53.120 great to catch up with you. And you'll be speaking at the Rebel News Live conference, which is a great

00:45:00.400 thing. We used to do a lot before the pandemic. We're getting back into it again. We're going to have

00:45:04.320 about 15 speakers, each for about 15 or 20 minutes. And we're grateful that you'll be there.

00:45:08.960 If folks want to come and meet you in person, go to rebelnewslive.com and you can see the ticket

00:45:14.960 prices there for students or seniors. It's a great event. Thanks for coming for that, by the way. It's

00:45:19.600 going to be great. Thank you, Ezra. I'm very pleased to be there. And I will take that time at that

00:45:25.040 conference to explain a little bit in more details our position on the war in Ukraine. And like I just said,

00:45:32.960 our position for fighting for peace and prosperity. So thank you for having me. And

00:45:38.640 I will see you at that event. Well, that'll be a great one. And just for the record,

00:45:42.880 we have given invitations to other political leaders from other political parties, including

00:45:47.280 Premier Daniel Smith from Alberta, Premier Doug Ford in Ontario, and Pierre Pauly of the leader of the

00:45:52.800 Conservative Party. Maxime Bernier, leader of the People's Party. Great to see you. Thanks for your time.

00:45:56.800 Thank you, Ezra. Have a nice evening. Bye-bye. You too. There you have it, Maxime Bernier. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:46:03.280 Hey, welcome back to your letters to me. Stay Ray says, hope Elon starts unmanning people soon or all

00:46:21.520 grows suspicious of how much he really loves free speech. Prove it. Well, imagine the list of people

00:46:26.720 who would be brought back to life after being sent to Twitter heaven, Donald Trump being the first and

00:46:32.080 most obvious one. You know, even some rebel news alumni like Tommy Robinson. I wonder if they will be allowed

00:46:37.920 back on the platform. It'll be interesting.

00:46:41.000 Maury Joe one says, after the not unexpected lackluster performance by the Republicans in yesterday's election,

00:46:48.120 Trump should think twice about running in 2024. You know, that was my monologue today. I mean, I still like Trump and

00:46:54.220 he did amazing things for America. I think he really saved America from Hillary Clinton and from what a continuation

00:47:00.080 of the first Obama presidency would have been. We can see the last two years what a Democrat win would have been.

00:47:05.460 And thank God Trump was there. Trump did a great many things and he was going to do many more until he was

00:47:12.340 defenestrated in 2020. I think there are real questions about American election integrity. The fact that the

00:47:19.800 richest, most modern country in the world can't count their ballots on election night is deeply embarrassing.

00:47:25.980 Of course, some states can. Florida and Texas, two of the largest states, had no problem counting them

00:47:31.260 within hours. Why can't Arizona or New York do the same? Brazil just had their presidential election. 0.63

00:47:37.600 They counted their results in one night. Why can't America? It only makes you curious about shenanigans.

00:47:44.060 Someone named Canadian Rumble Guy says, Trump's narcissism won't allow him to step aside and let a better

00:47:49.980 person run. He's putting his pride above what America needs to move ahead. Too many Americans 0.99

00:47:54.840 who don't like Trump would vote Republican if he wasn't still making it all about him. Trump is going

00:48:01.220 to be the downfall of American democracy. I don't think he's going to be the downfall of American

00:48:05.380 democracy. But I do think that him, I mean, the thing about Trump is Trump is Trumpism. Trump is about

00:48:13.320 himself. It's about his personality, his charisma. He takes up all the oxygen in a room. And when he's on and

00:48:18.980 when he's fighting for something important, he's amazing. When he knows what he wants, when there's

00:48:24.020 a deal to get on behalf of Americans, on behalf of the free world, Trump is the guy you want. But when

00:48:30.320 Trump is just talking about Trump, especially in an American economic recession, it just rings

00:48:36.020 self-centered. And I think that a policy wonk like Ron DeSantis, who shows he can win and win Latino

00:48:43.360 voters. I think that that combined with him being a generation younger, I think that's a powerful

00:48:49.360 thing. Don't count Trump out. I mean, he's made a lifetime of successes by being counted out. He's

00:48:57.940 fallen down and gotten out more times than most. But I think that the magic, I'm not saying it's gone,

00:49:04.360 but it wasn't evident last night. Hopefully the Republican candidate for governor, Carrie Lake, 0.99

00:49:10.220 and Arizona couldn't pull through. And it'd be a bit of a miracle if it could in New York too. There

00:49:14.740 are a few that we shouldn't write off yet. But as a whole, Trump's people, where it counted,

00:49:21.820 did not win last night. How do you lose to a stroke victim? That's our show for today. Until

00:49:29.500 tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rubber World Headquarters, to you at home, good night

00:49:32.920 and keep fighting for freedom. So here, Alexa for Rubber News, and I'm currently in Ville

00:49:37.440 Saint Laurent, in front of the restaurant Vino Rosso, where Mr. Trudeau is holding a fundraising

00:49:45.020 event for the Liberal Party. So it's very funny because Chrystia Freeland recently did say

00:49:51.440 that for fighting against inflation, Canadians should think about maybe cutting the subscription

00:49:59.140 for Disney Plus that is used for entertaining children. I personally, as a mother and wife,

00:50:07.140 look carefully at my credit card bill once a month. And last Sunday, I said to the kids,

00:50:12.320 you're older now, you don't want to watch Disney anymore. Let's cut that Disney Plus subscription.

00:50:18.240 So we cut it. It's only $13.99 a month that we're saving, but every little bit helps. And I think

00:50:25.660 every mother in Canada is doing that right now. And I want to say to all of those mothers,

00:50:31.300 I believe that I need to take exactly the same approach with the federal government's finances,

00:50:37.780 because that's the money of Canadians. When we know that Justin Trudeau, in person,

00:50:43.600 went to London for the funeral of the Queen, and he paid with the taxpayer money, a hotel room of

00:50:50.980 $6,000 a night. So we are not leaving. We know that now Mr. Trudeau was already inside of the building

00:50:59.720 when we arrived. But as Rebelle, we will stay here until the end. We'll try to catch him because we have

00:51:06.520 questions for him. We want to ask why he speak. He didn't speak out when Quebec province did use the

00:51:13.540 nonwithstanding clause, but he's doing it with Doug Ford. And if he will apologize to Canadians,

00:51:22.280 if we find out with the Public Order Emergency Commission that the Emergencies Act was not necessary

00:51:32.260 for dismantling a peaceful tracker protest. So we will be here until the end and we will try to,

00:51:40.340 to speak with the attendee. Let's check it out.

00:51:43.640 Pardon?

00:51:44.640 Do you want to get pictures for the event?

00:51:46.280 Yeah. For a Justin Trudeau event?

00:51:49.640 6.30.

00:51:50.640 Ah, yes, at 6.30, I know. Thank you.

00:51:53.280 Pardon?

00:51:54.280 Yes, it's up.

00:51:55.280 Yes, it's up.

00:51:57.280 Oh, yeah, thank you.

00:51:58.700 So, hey folks, we didn't get Justin Trudeau. Unfortunately, it disappeared. And when we know that

00:52:08.340 $1,600 for not even two hours of event, this is pretty expensive for per hour. So we will go in

00:52:18.740 the street and ask the people in Montreal what they think about all of this. Let's check it out.

00:52:28.820 Yesterday, Mr. Trudeau was in town in Montreal because he was holding a fundraising event for the

00:52:35.860 Liberal Party. My question today is, Chrystia Freeland did ask Canadians to fight against inflation to 0.98

00:52:44.820 cancel their Disney Plus subscription. And we know that Justin Trudeau went to London and he paid himself,

00:52:55.220 with the taxpayer money, a hotel room of $6,000. What do you think about this nonsense?

00:53:01.300 The financial way of how they continue to blow the taxpayers' money is a phenomenal debt that

00:53:11.220 causes Canada never to be able to achieve their greatness by showing absolute sensitivity and

00:53:17.220 making it practical because they continue to abuse us in ways that uses the taxpayers' money in other

00:53:23.380 ways that are inappropriate. Because if they're able to see the truth about the things and the

00:53:28.340 destruction of what it causes the average of people in this country, they will never choose to use

00:53:32.820 $6,000 for a hotel room.

00:53:34.740 It's been a lot of pain, but it's the people who govern. We don't know what to do.

00:53:40.980 No, but it's a waste of money because there are less expensive and comfortable hotels.

00:53:47.220 And if they wanted to give an example to save money, why do they do that?

00:53:56.580 He's not in the same mood as all the families of Quebec, in the fond. For the affair of Disney Plus and

00:54:03.700 the company, we need to divert it. It's more easy for him, with the money he does. And at the same time,

00:54:10.500 there are a lot of expenses that the government pays for him. So we're not all aware of it,

00:54:15.940 but sometimes it's still public. But the hotel room at $6,000, it's sure it could be a little bit lower.

00:54:27.940 I think it could make the same job. 0.95

00:54:29.940 It's very hypocritical. I would say that even in the face, that it's very hypocritical to pay $6,000 for a hotel room for 0.82

00:54:37.940 a hotel room while there are people in Montreal and everywhere in Canada who are out of pain.

00:54:43.060 I guess it's a big contradiction for the act that we are doing right now for the Disney Plus.

00:54:48.900 That's it. And you?

00:54:50.900 So he's saying to unsubscribe from Disney Plus…

00:54:53.940 For saving money, but he's using $6,000 of our money for a hotel room.

00:54:59.060 It's basically a contradiction that does not make sense. Like, how could you say… How much does Disney Plus,

00:55:05.300 what, like 20, 30 bucks a month? $13.99.

00:55:08.100 A month? Yeah, it's basically nothing. It's like less than a coffee a day. So like…

00:55:14.260 And him going to spend like one night in a… I don't know, it doesn't make sense.

00:55:19.540 So you see it, the people have thought, a lot of them find that it's really hypocritical

00:55:26.260 to hurt the government telling citizens of Canada to unsubscribe from Disney Plus

00:55:33.940 when we saw them throwing the money through the window like the hotel room at $6,000.

00:55:41.380 So I hope you enjoyed that report. It was Alexander for Ruben News.

Rebel News Podcast - November 09, 2022

EZRA LEVANT ｜ The promised Republican 'red wave' is more like a puddle

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