Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Toronto Police won't leave our billboard truck alone

00:00:00.200 Hello, my friends, another crazy incident involving out-of-control Toronto police harassing

00:00:06.420 our truck driver for having an ad criticizing Hamas activists, and it's going to get your

00:00:11.700 blood boiling, I'm afraid.

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00:00:55.740 tonight police go after our big beautiful billboard truck again it's outrageous what's

00:01:04.420 happening i'll show you the video it's august 31st and this is the ezra levant show

00:01:08.660 shame on you you censorious bug

00:01:25.740 The winner, gold medalist, Alex Loma.

00:01:55.740 place

00:02:25.740 Thank you, guys. Really appreciate it. Thanks, everyone. It's been six years now. I've been with Rebel, and still have to finish myself to tell me this is real, so thank you, guys.

00:02:48.100 Okay. Here we go. Thank you very much for Sheila.

00:02:51.400 Congratulations, buddy.

00:02:55.740 Well, I was there in that room and I was so proud of everyone, not just the rebels.

00:03:08.100 Of course, I love our rebels very much, but I was proud that other companies were joined

00:03:12.900 together in a common purpose with us for independent journalism.

00:03:15.960 But there I am in the middle of it and my phone rings and I look at it and it's our

00:03:20.860 truck driver mark and i know that if mark is calling me something terrible has happened

00:03:27.580 he called me because he was pulled over by the police again this is what the third time in as

00:03:33.900 many weeks remember the first time he was pulled over because he had those ads about transgenderism

00:03:39.180 in sports here's a flashback on that i don't want to point you started i don't want to point you

00:03:43.660 started filming me i'm feeling unsafe don't call me sir and i don't want to talk to you at all

00:03:48.780 what's your problem with the truck yeah yeah yeah you can't take me then the second time

00:03:54.540 was when we were at the wnba nba games the women's basketball games downtown toronto and he was given

00:04:01.180 thirteen hundred dollars in fines complete bs he you don't need a permit for that big truck

00:04:08.060 but the police lied and said he did give him 1300 bucks for the fines take a look at this

00:04:13.100 i've been instructed my my boss to keep it on i'm getting a ticket anyway right don't you believe in

00:04:18.300 free speech officer it's about uh advertising uh anything with uh audio and video in in a commercial

00:04:27.240 way like on a public street where the hell do you get off shutting down a peaceful political message

00:04:33.060 that is not your job he would have suggested this goofy idea well we're obviously fighting those

00:04:38.240 fines we've hired a top lawyer leora shemesh but wouldn't you know it yesterday sunday i'm in the

00:04:44.780 middle of our awards gala. I get the call from Mark. I drop everything, grab my buddy Lincoln J

00:04:50.420 and we run out and I want to show you the 10 minute video. It is so infuriating and you can

00:04:56.120 see my, my neck was getting red. I was so flushed. I was so angry. Oh my God. Take a look at this and

00:05:03.180 you tell me what you think. Bad news. Toronto police have detained the driver of our big,

00:05:10.140 beautiful billboard truck. This time the police are on the side of the Hamas protesters. Go to

00:05:15.580 savethetruck.com and look at this. This is getting to be a habit, Mark. Did you say the police

00:05:20.360 detained the big beautiful billboard truck today? Yeah, they pulled me over, asked me for my license

00:05:26.660 ownership registration. And when I asked why I was being pulled over, he said, well, you're driving

00:05:31.560 around here inciting hate with this message. And we've gotten a hate crimes call and the hate

00:05:37.360 crimes investigation unit is going to be investigating you called me i dropped everything

00:05:42.320 i was actually at the independent press gallery awards event but lincoln and i and isaac rushed

00:05:47.760 over first of all we want to let you know that that's a bs accusation against you in the truck

00:05:53.840 so i want you to hear from me that that was the police are lying in fact your message is an anti

00:05:59.760 anti-semitism message the second thing i want you to know is that obviously we're going to provide

00:06:04.880 the legal defense for you. As you know, we've already retained Leora Shemesh, one of the top

00:06:09.300 criminal lawyers in Toronto, to protect you for those two tickets you got down at the basketball

00:06:15.040 game, the WNBA game, when you had the transgenderism message. So my first reason for being here is to

00:06:21.160 let you know that we've got your back and our viewers. So I don't want you to be afraid about

00:06:25.160 this investigation. It's BS. And we'll protect you all the way. So that was my main reason for

00:06:32.380 coming here it's actually not a rebel news message it's it's a paid ad from time to time

00:06:38.080 we put the truck on the road with someone else's ad to help pay the bills so this one says we call

00:06:43.640 the september 11 2001 attacks acts of terrorism the reason there's so many words on i'm just

00:06:48.460 getting it now is it's going through one at a time the different pro hamas thugs who were charged

00:06:54.540 with crimes and it's showing what happens to them when they engage in anti-semitism so it's just

00:07:00.840 showing like that's daniela bonamico i remember when she was charged so you little tapeworm cunt

00:07:07.960 head losers you little schnazi whores what rock are you hiding under i'm genuinely asking for

00:07:18.440 the people like where are you little basic stale granola blobs of mayonnaise where are you there's

00:07:27.400 nothing hateful about this this is nothing that hasn't appeared in the local newspaper or indeed

00:07:32.200 on the police department's own website i agree what he was trying to make the case was i think

00:07:37.400 because there's dueling protests over there that by me driving around was inciting like uh some kind

00:07:43.160 of like inciting things to a riot or whatever is what he made it look out to be like like to be

00:07:48.040 well he's either the stupidest cop in the graduating class and remember that if you have

00:07:52.920 have a hundred cops in a graduating class someone's got to be the stupidest so there's a chance he's

00:07:57.720 that stupid but i don't believe that's what's going on i think he's malicious and i think he

00:08:02.700 is part of this anti-semitic policing mindset to allow the genuine hate crimes to go and to pick

00:08:09.800 on the truck that's complaining about the hate crimes there's nothing anti-semitic about this

00:08:14.420 or hateful or anything this just lists all the people who have been charged with anti-semitic

00:08:22.180 cape and saying don't become that person i'd like you to show me the cop in question the idea i got

00:08:27.460 is like they're going to investigate this and if they decide to charge for a hate crime they're

00:08:31.840 going to just come to my residence and i guess arrest me or whatever that's the impression i got

00:08:37.020 i think that's the impression they wanted to give you because i think they're trying to scare you

00:08:41.480 and harass you because they know you're a key link in the chain you're the driver of the truck

00:08:46.160 so rebel news owns the truck the advertiser has the video and they know we're pretty solid so

00:08:52.800 they're trying to wobble you and we've got an 11-year track record of standing behind our people

00:08:57.900 but whenever our people are arrested or charged we always fight it all the way i'm ezra levant

00:09:03.320 i'm with rebel news i understand one of your colleagues pulled over our driver i don't know

00:09:08.280 about that i'm here to talk about that can you find there's a sergeant over there you can talk

00:09:11.760 to it wasn't on this side so i have no idea okay so who do i talk to and what's his name i don't

00:09:15.300 there's a sergeant you don't know who the sergeant's name there's many of them okay yeah so you can

00:09:19.060 talk to them if it didn't happen on this i have no idea can you give me the name of someone i should

00:09:21.780 talk to like i said there's many sergeants over there and i'll talk to anyone do you know which

00:09:26.100 cop was pulling over my driver no you can talk to the sergeant over there sir okay thank you

00:09:31.540 you know what i'm just mad that this has been going on for nearly three years

00:09:36.980 for three years they have amplified pa systems shrieking at holocaust survivors

00:09:42.900 in a residential neighborhood and they pull over our truck that talks about anti-semitism disgusting

00:09:50.100 thank you for doing it thank you where's the cop that pulled over my driver do you know i have no

00:09:56.500 idea about this why did you why did you pull over our guy then who pulled him over and why did he

00:10:03.300 leave the scene because i have a lawsuit to file and i need a name who was the cop who illegally

00:10:08.820 pulled over my guy who pulled over my truck an officer what's the name of the officer because

00:10:14.660 we're suing him okay well you're gonna have to find out you're gonna have to go through

00:10:17.300 information a bit of a coward aren't you you know that you're you know that you're in the wrong you

00:10:20.980 won't even tell me the name of the cop because you're shamed of it if you were if you were proud

00:10:25.620 of what he had done you would give me the name you told him to leave and you're keeping his name

00:10:30.820 secret because you are ashamed of his misconduct the information if you're looking for it is

00:10:35.300 for your information. Someone heard the cops overheard them saying they're

00:10:39.080 gonna pull the truck over so I went up to the policeman that I sent you to and

00:10:43.340 I asked him are you pulling over this truck because everything that's on

00:10:47.240 there's a public record there's no hate it's all factual he said no we're not

00:10:50.720 pulling over the truck I went back to the street and then I heard that the

00:10:54.740 truck was pulled over around the block and then I went up to him and I said you

00:10:57.920 just told me that you're not pulling over the truck he goes oh no no not about

00:11:00.920 the message we're pulling over the driver I go well why are you pulling

00:11:04.340 over the driver. He's a hired hand. Like, what grounds do you have to pull over the driver? Did

00:11:08.740 he commit a moving vehicle offense? Why was my truck pulled over? Your truck was pulled over for

00:11:14.180 a HCA offense. That's, you've been spoken to and been advised of all of that information. What's an

00:11:19.200 HCA offense? You've been spoken to and advised of all that information already. What does HCA mean?

00:11:25.380 Highway traffic, sir. Don't lie to me. He just told me he was pulled over for a hate crime

00:11:29.740 investigation i'm not speaking to you sir with regards to that driver it wasn't highway traffic

00:11:35.420 act he said i was being investigated for a hate crime why did you just lie you just lied no no i

00:11:40.140 didn't just lie you said it was highway traffic people that's right highway traffic and what did

00:11:45.180 he do wrong it's all on camera listen i wasn't the one that stopped you no i don't know what

00:11:50.540 the offense so who stopped him i don't know what well an officer stopped him and what's the

00:11:54.620 officer's name i don't know his name well what he does and he won't say why are you so ashamed of

00:11:59.500 your own team's misconduct you can find that information through it through freedom well

00:12:04.780 why won't you say it why won't you say it because he does i'm not ashamed of anything don't put

00:12:10.380 words in my mouth you're not ashamed of pulling over a truck against anti-semitism here that's

00:12:14.540 not that's not what we're doing at all guys we can't let this happen i'm hiring leora shemesh

00:12:20.220 she's the top criminal lawyer in toronto to fight back we've got to stop their harassment of our

00:12:25.580 truck driver it's out of control go to savethetruck.com to learn how to help are you talking

00:12:31.020 about a trespass act now talking about trespass act now you're gonna trespass me we're having a

00:12:37.420 conversation here right now you're gonna trespass i'm asking you to walk away i'm not walking away

00:12:42.620 i'm asking you to walk away from us at this time are you are you gonna arrest me for trespass

00:12:47.420 i'm entertaining if that's the case if things have changed no for three years they've abided

00:12:53.020 the most wicked anti-semitism on that side of the street no problem

00:12:57.420 they don't have a permit the police act as their concierge

00:13:01.420 i went there once to report on it i was arrested

00:13:04.860 that's how pro-hamas extremists are treated in toronto

00:13:09.340 we hire a peaceful truck to go around with a message against anti-semitism

00:13:14.780 our truck is targeted by the police pulled over

00:13:18.380 our driver threatened they're attempting to intimidate him

00:13:22.700 i asked about it to the police the cop who did it vanished the other cops know exactly what i'm

00:13:28.220 talking about they won't tell me his name they bring in a big cop and the first thing out of his

00:13:33.500 mouth to me is he was pulled over for an hda i didn't know what that acronym meant it was a

00:13:38.060 highway act your truck was pulled over for hda offense the driver the first thing he said to me

00:13:43.180 was they were asking me about a potential hate crime so the first words out of the senior cop's

00:13:49.020 mouth was a lie that oh no they're not harassing or threatening us over our

00:13:54.900 message against anti-semitism it was our driver doing something wrong which is a

00:13:58.200 lie I think the Toronto police have a lot to answer for I remember in my own

00:14:03.120 neighborhood of Armour Heights when the pro Hamas activists literally blocked an

00:14:06.780 entire street blocked a bridge in a residential area for people to come in

00:14:10.680 just to go home kids coming home after school and what did the police do they

00:14:16.500 It brought coffee and donuts for the Hamas supporters.

00:14:19.740 Here we are three years later, we're still seeing that disgraceful conduct.

00:14:23.280 The Rebel News truck and the ads are playing are a gentle, peaceful way to protest.

00:14:28.960 And the cops are now harassing our driver on a weekly basis.

00:14:33.020 And I say enough of that.

00:14:34.840 The next time the police pull over our truck,

00:14:37.420 I'm going to sue all the officers involved for harassment and intimidation.

00:14:42.680 That cop in the white short-sleeved shirt, who apparently is some muckety-muck,

00:14:46.500 The first words out of his mouth were a lie.

00:14:49.100 We didn't pull him over for a hate crime.

00:14:50.800 It was for a highway offense.

00:14:52.460 It was a lie, and he knew it was a lie when he was saying it.

00:14:55.280 And now because I'm arguing with me, he's threatening to eject me from this parking lot under the Trespass Act.

00:15:01.300 I'm not going to bend the knee.

00:15:02.900 I know they're used to a lot of people bending the knee, but I'm not going to.

00:15:07.600 And we'll see who comes out on top, you know, fighting against City Hall, fighting against the police.

00:15:12.500 And by the way, he's got a gun.

00:15:13.640 you know at the end of the day he has the monopoly on violence doesn't he

00:15:17.720 we'll probably lose in the end but we're not gonna go down without fighting

00:15:22.360 for rebel news i'm ezra laban this they are harassing peaceful independent

00:15:30.600 journalists with a message against anti-semitism that's who we were

00:15:34.540 it wasn't even our message by the way it was an ad and the content of the ad

00:15:38.780 was toronto police generated information itself just

00:15:42.320 Oh, anyways, I wanted you to see that.

00:15:45.680 And I'm so proud of our truck driver for standing firm.

00:15:48.980 And I'm proud of our team for getting there so soon.

00:15:52.480 Any, I want to leave you today with a different video.

00:15:55.760 What I'm about to show you is actually a paid ad.

00:15:58.020 It's a sponsored content.

00:15:59.760 So it's like an infomercial.

00:16:02.060 And as you know, Rebel News makes a little bit of money through ads.

00:16:05.080 And we always indicate if it is an ad.

00:16:08.320 So the Ezra Levant Show, it's obviously my genuine views on politics.

00:16:12.320 But we were hired for a sponsorship with a company called Citizen X that helps people get a second passport.

00:16:20.040 And I was doing this infomercial with this marketing officer of Citizen X.

00:16:26.020 And I thought, you know what, this is actually really interesting stuff.

00:16:29.480 It's a company that helps Canadians find a second passport for emergencies.

00:16:35.520 And we've had a few emergencies in Canada lately, haven't we?

00:16:38.440 Like the Emergencies Act being used to seize people's bank accounts with no legal process.

00:16:44.620 This idea of having a second passport, a second citizenship for emergency purposes is a pretty

00:16:52.540 neat idea. And she called it being a prepper, not a doomer. So what I'm about to show you is

00:16:58.000 actually a paid ad. And I normally wouldn't put that in the Israel event show other than

00:17:02.640 I actually thought it was really interesting. And I mean, I have no intention of leaving

00:17:07.980 canada i'm going to fight till the bitter end but for those who have had enough of government

00:17:14.260 stealing your bank accounts without legal purpose or maybe this is for you i want to show you so

00:17:21.060 this is an ad that i'm going to show you but you know what i'm actually convinced by the ad take

00:17:26.320 a look and tell me what you think for the longest time canada seemed like the safest place in the

00:17:34.400 world. It was a diplomat who once said, we are a fireproof home, far away from inflammable

00:17:40.200 materials. Remember that line? Well, people don't say that so much anymore. And some of the things

00:17:45.440 that we loved about Canada seemed to be in question, its stability, its safety. And I

00:17:51.280 think in particular of the shocking invocation of martial law done through the invocation of

00:17:57.880 the Emergencies Act in response to the peaceful trucker protest where hundreds of people had

00:18:05.100 their bank accounts frozen through a declaration of fiat. There was no legal process. They just

00:18:11.860 suddenly one day realized they couldn't get to their money. What a shocking blow to our belief

00:18:18.580 in the safety of our country. And in recent years, I have to say, as a Jew myself, I see a rise in

00:18:26.200 anti-Semitism, and so many people in the Jewish community are talking about leaving Canada for

00:18:32.520 somewhere safer. That's an idea that wouldn't have even computed a few years ago. Canada is

00:18:39.440 the safest place, or is it? I see Donald Trump recently tweeted that Jews might be welcome as

00:18:46.820 refugees in the United States, and even Oklahoma has particularly said, come here. So let's get

00:18:54.300 really practical for a second. If you are a Canadian and you want a plan B, if you want a

00:19:00.820 exit strategy, how do you go about it? How do you deal with the passport side of things? We're doing

00:19:07.740 a very special broadcast today in partnership with Katie Ananina, who was born and raised in

00:19:14.540 post-Soviet Russia. And she founded a company called Plan B Passport about eight years ago.

00:19:22.300 and it was recently acquired by Citizen X. And that company is sponsoring this broadcast.

00:19:29.500 And I think it's a perfect fit for so many of our viewers who want to diversify their passport

00:19:36.180 portfolio. Have you ever heard that phrase, diversify your passport portfolio by getting

00:19:43.820 another citizenship through investment or dissent? Joining us now is the chief marketing officer of

00:19:50.900 Citizen X, Katie and Anita. Katie, great to have you on the program. Welcome.

00:19:55.800 Thank you, Ezra. Thank you for a great introduction.

00:19:58.800 Well, I really think about these issues a lot. And 10 years ago, I would say, what? You're crazy.

00:20:04.020 The Canadian passport is one everyone in the rest of the world wants. But these days,

00:20:09.420 Canadians are looking for a what if or an or else. What if things continue to go in the wrong

00:20:15.380 direction, having a second passport, it actually could theoretically be a matter of life and death,

00:20:22.000 but for sure it's a matter of safety and security, including financial security.

00:20:26.580 Tell us your thinking on getting a second passport.

00:20:31.800 Absolutely. As you mentioned, history moves in cycles, right? If you believe in the theory of

00:20:38.580 fourth turning, the last fourth turning, we've seen a big wave of immigrants coming to Canada,

00:20:44.560 coming to the U.S., the people who lived through the last fourth earning, which would be considered

00:20:50.160 early 1900s, about 100 years ago, were the people who had access to an asset outside of government

00:20:58.900 control, so they held gold, and the people who had access to safe jurisdiction, those who left

00:21:05.040 Germany in 1930s instead of waiting on how it's going to play out, right? So if we look at it now,

00:21:11.400 that's exactly what we tell our clients. You don't know what's going to happen. Your best bet

00:21:17.320 is to diversify your passport portfolio, hold a second citizenship outside of your home country

00:21:23.060 as a plan B, as an insurance policy. And that's what our clients have been executing with us at

00:21:29.660 CitizenX. You know, I see sometimes online billionaires building these nuclear bomb

00:21:36.840 shelter sort of underground safe houses and that seems a bit extreme and not just that those are

00:21:43.640 extremely expensive i don't think that's a realistic option for most people and and and by

00:21:51.000 the way if things are getting that bad they've gone through certain other stages first i think

00:21:55.420 it's much more sensible reasonable practical to have a second passport that lets you go somewhere

00:22:02.620 safer than you know this end times bunker underground that could cost millions how i

00:22:09.540 mean i bet right now a lot of our viewers are thinking well how how how does a company

00:22:13.560 sell or help you get a passport because we don't really don't think about buying

00:22:19.000 a passport that that sounds unusual sounds like something maybe james bond would do i don't know

00:22:25.160 i guess what i'm saying is this is all new to to me how would someone go about getting that

00:22:32.260 second passport and how much would it cost is it just for the billionaires out there or could

00:22:37.960 someone get into it at a more modest fee absolutely so let me just walk you through the entire

00:22:45.040 strategy that i discussed with my clients so i view passport portfolio as a security model

00:22:51.540 and just like in every security model you have to understand what are my risks what are my attack

00:22:57.220 vectors? What are my threats? And based on all these, we will see what jurisdiction will mitigate

00:23:03.760 those risks, what passports will help you resolve that. So we consider all these pieces, consider

00:23:09.760 your family composition, consider your goals and needs and your desired lifestyle. And from there,

00:23:15.180 we build your entire passport portfolio. The way I say it is diversify your passport portfolio,

00:23:20.280 right? So we see Passport as an asset class, a separate asset class. So how do you go about

00:23:27.740 actually building that portfolio? Well, there are multiple tools that you can utilize for that.

00:23:33.480 There is citizenship by investment, there is citizenship by descent, citizenship by naturalization.

00:23:38.700 And this game used to be truly for billionaires, or at least ultra wealthy. Now we're talking about

00:23:46.600 countries selling their citizenship for $100,000. That's not an unreasonable amount. Or you can claim

00:23:53.960 your citizenship through dissent. Just like you mentioned, there was a big movement from Europe

00:23:59.600 to Canada, from Europe to the United States, because people were looking for safe heaven here.

00:24:04.820 Well, guess what? You might still be eligible to claim that citizenship in Europe. It might not be

00:24:09.980 the place you want to go to right now, but you can keep this nationality running in your family.

00:24:15.660 You can pass this legacy down to your children and their children.

00:24:20.740 So they have this optionality.

00:24:23.000 They have the insurance policy.

00:24:25.320 And that's basically how it works.

00:24:27.380 If we talk about precisely pay-to-play, citizenship by investment, where you truly buy the passport.

00:24:34.700 Right now, there are about 20 countries who actually have a policy for that.

00:24:38.420 So the company selling passport is precisely us helping you build the case to submit your application for citizenship by investment program that the nation has already issued.

00:24:49.800 So it's an in-law.

00:24:51.180 That's their country's policy.

00:24:53.700 We submit your case.

00:24:54.980 You go through due diligence, and you obtain the citizenship.

00:24:58.080 Sometimes it takes three weeks.

00:25:00.200 Sometimes it takes a year, depending on the jurisdiction.

00:25:03.520 But, yeah, it's truly legal.

00:25:05.960 It's not us selling passports out of the code.

00:25:09.520 And that's another thing.

00:25:10.900 I mean, the idea of buying a passport feels sort of like you would be part of an international elite, like a spy or something like that.

00:25:21.160 But what you're saying is that many countries in the world are trying to attract high-value citizens or at least investments.

00:25:30.740 So this is not weird.

00:25:32.500 It may seem new to our Canadian ears because we always thought we had the best passport around.

00:25:38.620 But you're saying there's a couple dozen countries that this is absolutely a deliberate economic or political strategy of those countries to let Canadians buy a second passport.

00:25:52.020 I mean, I think a lot of Canadians think, well, if you're not a Canadian, you want to be an American.

00:25:55.540 But there are other countries that may be a faster or cheaper or easier path to a second passport.

00:26:04.080 And in the notes I was reading in preparation for our talk today, some of them were like St. Kitts and Nevis, which is a lovely little island in the Caribbean, or El Salvador, which recently has been in the news because they have a very strong president who's cut the crime rate down to almost zero.

00:26:23.980 He's very progressive in his views on technology.

00:26:28.180 I've never been to El Salvador, but it looks very exciting.

00:26:31.900 They're one of the countries that allows people to become a citizen through cash, right?

00:26:38.700 Yeah, exactly.

00:26:40.020 I'm a huge fan of what's been happening in El Salvador.

00:26:42.560 I've been there many times over the last five years, and you can see the country's trajectory.

00:26:47.960 It is truly up and up and it is the country to watch. Definitely. There is a huge Canadian community, expat community in El Salvador these days. And just like you mentioned, the countries want capital and talent. Those are the two most important things that the countries want to attract.

00:27:08.040 Canada was always a big magnet for talent, right?

00:27:11.340 You know, there's big immigration programs for talented people, highly skilled professionals.

00:27:17.740 Even today on Twitter, I was scrolling my feed and I see a Canadian official government account posting,

00:27:24.900 we're looking for healthcare workers, check out our immigration policy.

00:27:28.820 So Canada is still trying to attract that talent.

00:27:31.680 But how do you attract talent capital?

00:27:33.720 Well, with policy, with lifestyle, and if it's not going in the right direction in Canada these days, well, they're going to play the opposite card.

00:27:43.640 They're going to start losing capital and start losing talent.

00:27:47.000 And that's what's been happening in the UK very much.

00:27:49.540 There's been brain drain and there's been capital exodus.

00:27:54.880 And seems like this is what's starting currently in Canada.

00:27:57.520 I don't want to be, how do you say, doomer in a way, but it's definitely a trend that I've noticed within my clientele.

00:28:07.560 They want to relocate their capital because of asset seizures you already mentioned.

00:28:11.980 They want to make sure they jurisdictionally protect their family and their money.

00:28:17.360 Yeah, very interesting. And that's the thing is, I mean, I talked to so many Canadians who their entire identity as a Canadian was shook by the invocation of the Emergencies Act.

00:28:30.420 When you see your own cabinet ministers talking about sending in tanks, and that was the conversation with Marco Mendotino and Chrystia Freeland.

00:28:40.360 And I don't know if they were serious or not, but they seized bank accounts.

00:28:44.360 I know that was dead serious.

00:28:46.200 They put soldiers on the street to have a plan B.

00:28:49.960 And if you had a passport, one of the countries you were mentioning is a small country called São Tomé en Príncipe.

00:28:56.580 I think that's an island, if I'm not mistaken.

00:28:58.760 the thing about having a passport and that's one of the more economical ones is it's a place where

00:29:04.520 you can go and they will let you in because you are a citizen and have all the rights of a citizen

00:29:10.560 it really is your living breathing escape path it's yeah it's your plan b if everything goes

00:29:18.740 to hell isn't it you're absolutely right south to me is actually one of the most popular options

00:29:23.820 right now for Canadians and precisely for those Canadians that are not willing to leave

00:29:29.160 yet, but they want to have this escape hatch.

00:29:31.720 So what they do is they get Sao Tomean principist citizenship without ever visiting the country.

00:29:38.440 And then they get a residency somewhere in Latin America where they actually like the

00:29:42.860 lifestyle, let's say Costa Rica, Panama, or El Salvador, and they have this perfect triangle.

00:29:48.580 So Sautamae Passport basically prevents them from being in a position of having their Canadian passport revoked, being unable to leave the country, being unable to travel, and then Latin American residency basically makes sure that they have this plan B lifestyle waiting for them and their families, a safe haven for them to relocate to in case of emergency.

00:30:11.720 So this triangle is kind of like the perfect strategy that Canadian clients have been implementing with us.

00:30:19.320 You would probably never want to leave in São Tomé.

00:30:22.520 It's an island nation, Portuguese-speaking island nation, right on the equator on the west coast of Africa.

00:30:28.500 Most of my clients will never visit this island.

00:30:30.980 But because they have this citizenship by investment program that allows you to become a citizen for $105,000 or $111 for the whole family,

00:30:39.380 they just pull that trigger sleep better at night and make sure that they have this plan b passport

00:30:45.560 in place you know a lot i know a lot of canadians who've retired to mexico costa rica there's all

00:30:51.820 sorts of enclaves i was talking to a friend the other day was in baja california in a little

00:30:56.600 in cabo actually there was a lot of uh canadians there so you're saying they could live there

00:31:02.940 have the canadian passport as their primary one but god forbid something goes wrong they have

00:31:10.320 that passport to south tome again not necessarily to to go there but to be able to move around is

00:31:16.360 that what you're saying exactly you want to have passport outside of your home country government

00:31:22.000 control because they're the ones who have the strongest claim on you on your taxes on your

00:31:27.500 mobilization in case of civil unrest or geopolitical instability. So you want to have

00:31:32.940 a second very strong document, like citizenship is the strongest instrument in your flag theory

00:31:39.660 toolbox. So you want to have a second citizenship outside of your home country. And then let's say

00:31:44.940 you're relocated to Mexico. Well, it's going to take you six years to get citizenship there.

00:31:49.020 You're going to go through temporary, then permanent residency, then you have to pass the

00:31:53.200 naturalization exam and pass the language exam. So while you're working and paying with time for

00:32:00.240 your next citizenship, you already executed your affordable option with Sao Tome. Right. So what

00:32:06.860 you're saying is this is a quick route and it's a certain route to another passport. So you may not

00:32:14.060 even want to apply for your Mexican citizenship as long as you have that other passport in your

00:32:20.300 pocket yeah exactly that's basically what what our clients doing these days and um another thing

00:32:28.240 that all Canadians definitely need to do is look at their ancestry because that second citizenship

00:32:34.280 may already be yours you just don't know it yet you may be eligible for Italian Slovak Polish

00:32:41.240 citizenship just based on your ancestral ties if your grandparents or great-grandparents came from

00:32:47.680 europe most likely you're eligible so i always say first things first we look into your lineage

00:32:54.580 we look into your family tree and see if there is a passport there so i i guess it depends on which

00:33:01.720 country they have different rules but in my own case uh some of my family came from ukraine and

00:33:09.160 one of my ancestors came from london um just off the top of your head i know i'm i'm surprising

00:33:15.340 you with these two countries rule of thumb would i have any claim to those citizenships uh even if

00:33:22.960 they're my great grandparents or is that too far away great grandparents is not far away at all

00:33:30.460 with the uk it would be one generation too far but with eastern europe some countries do not

00:33:36.640 have generational limit at all we just need to make sure that the lineage has not been broken

00:33:42.080 Obviously, Ukraine is currently part of the conflict, so you would need to make sure that you want this citizenship at the moment.

00:33:48.960 They might recruit me into the war, God forbid, and I'm not making fun.

00:33:52.400 I mean, that's an example of where you probably don't want an additional passport.

00:33:58.220 You mentioned taxes.

00:34:00.220 Are any of these places tax havens, or is it more about just freedom of movement and an emergency plan?

00:34:07.460 Would anyone get, let's say, an El Salvador citizenship and then seek to pay taxes there as their primary place of residence?

00:34:18.260 Absolutely.

00:34:19.080 So as you mentioned, it would have to be primary place of residence, right?

00:34:22.680 Because there is concept of citizenship.

00:34:24.640 There is concept of residency on paper, like permanent or temporary.

00:34:28.560 And there is concept of tax residency.

00:34:31.600 And that one is triggered by your ties to the country, by the amount of time you spend in each country.

00:34:36.760 So you can have 10 passports, but if you spend over 180 days in Canada, you're definitely going to be filing and paying taxes there.

00:34:45.660 Now let's say you're actually willing to relocate, leave Canada behind, pay sort of exit tax, which people believe Canada doesn't have, but it does in a way.

00:34:58.080 So make sure you sort everything out with Canada.

00:35:00.880 Cut all your financial ties with Canada, not utilize whatever benefits you could utilize before and fully relocate to El Salvador.

00:35:09.420 Well, currently, El Salvador has a lot of great tax policies that do attract capital and talent.

00:35:15.900 For example, zero capital gains tax on Bitcoin.

00:35:18.840 That's a big one because they made Bitcoin a legal tender in a country.

00:35:23.420 You can literally pay your immigration fee in Bitcoin.

00:35:26.700 You can buy coconuts on the beach from a six-year-old lady with Lightning Wallet.

00:35:31.700 I've done it myself.

00:35:33.080 So it's pretty awesome what's happening there.

00:35:35.860 And yeah, tax-wise, they are an interesting one for Bitcoiners.

00:35:39.760 But if you look at the Caribbean islands, those are very well-known tax havens.

00:35:44.180 St. Kitts and Nevis has no inheritance tax, no capital gains tax, no global income tax.

00:35:49.500 So if you're truly optimizing for taxes, yeah, there are definitely options.

00:35:54.080 You just need to make sure that you're willing to leave Canada.

00:35:57.660 Right.

00:35:57.840 So that's only for people who have decided they're going to physically go.

00:36:02.280 The other ones you're thinking of more as like an insurance policy.

00:36:05.780 God forbid things get bad.

00:36:07.200 And again, I don't want to be too dramatic, but sometimes when I think of the Jews in

00:36:12.240 Europe in the 30s, and they probably started to get a sense of unease in the early 30s,

00:36:18.340 late 30s.

00:36:19.080 But by the time it was time to get the heck out, they didn't have a place to go.

00:36:24.740 That really is a story of the Jews.

00:36:26.540 They weren't allowed to go most places.

00:36:30.200 So having a second passport, it's not necessarily saying I want to go to Sao Tomei now.

00:36:37.760 It's about, God forbid, if history repeats itself, if things hit the fan, I have a ticket out of here to a place that'll let me go.

00:36:47.520 Am I right?

00:36:48.120 that's probably how most people think of this yes absolutely and in my global view this is the way

00:36:55.820 my philosophy works this is why i started this company to begin with basically if more people

00:37:02.000 play this game of jurisdictional arbitrage then the countries the nation states actually have

00:37:06.900 an incentive to be better to provide better service at a better price this is a free market

00:37:12.700 capitalism so now there are two driving factors the quality race up and the price race to the

00:37:19.300 bottom right so by doing that we incentivize nation states all around the world to actually

00:37:25.540 compete for citizens their capital and their talent so in a in a long run this is my view

00:37:31.920 that we will bring this free market competition for nation states and actually become customers

00:37:38.500 hmm now can you let's say someone's watching this and is really interested and i know there

00:37:44.700 will be because i have had personal conversations with so many people about moving their money out

00:37:51.480 of canada after the bank seizures i don't know if we'll ever find out how much people took out

00:37:58.860 of the country but it's got to be in the billions and people just their complete faith in the system

00:38:06.200 was shaken so let's say there's someone who has some means their life savings is let's say i mean

00:38:13.560 these days it's not rare to be in the millions given that housing prices alone are so expensive

00:38:19.620 so if someone had a few million dollars they're in their 60s they've saved all their life and

00:38:25.740 they're looking to do this plan b through your company citizen x how would they even start

00:38:33.180 absolutely so for that they need to look at two things they need to protect their capital

00:38:38.700 and they need to protect their identity so we get them a second citizenship we set up a trust

00:38:44.440 structure somewhere outside of canada for their capital they should probably also look into

00:38:50.340 bitcoin because that's the only self-custody asset there is to protect it from a third-party

00:38:56.780 seizures. So schedule a free call with me. I will be the one brainstorming with you on what is the

00:39:03.440 best jurisdiction for you. How can we structure those asset protection strategies and what will

00:39:09.260 work for you and your family? So to begin with this strategy formation, create an account on

00:39:15.460 CitizenX and schedule a free call with me. I will personally be happy to brainstorm with you on what

00:39:21.620 is the best jurisdiction for you and protecting your capital. So we would probably consider

00:39:26.800 what is a good jurisdiction for you and your family safety-wise. Then we would consider what

00:39:31.680 is a good trust structure to consider which assets you can put into that. You should probably look

00:39:37.440 into Bitcoin as well, because that's the only asset that you can truly have self-custody off

00:39:41.880 of. And considering all that, we will build a good strategy and execute it for you.

00:39:47.600 Well, that's very exciting. It sounds like you have clients from all around the world. Where do Canadians tend to want to go? So you've obviously talked to people from a variety of backgrounds, but what would you say the average Canadian does to give themselves a diversity of passports?

00:40:10.740 yeah i would say for canadians there are two routes first of all many of canadian citizens

00:40:17.620 are eligible for citizenship by descent and that would be obviously lots of french slovak and

00:40:23.740 polish citizens as well as irish so these are the top four jurisdiction on citizenship by descent

00:40:29.940 side that and the way it works with us you basically give us the information of your

00:40:35.360 ancestor to the best of your knowledge. We can do genealogical research to find out where precisely

00:40:41.400 were they born, what is the date of birth, and then we will actually guide you through the whole

00:40:46.360 process. We will collect all the birth certificates we need for the process and execute that for you.

00:40:53.020 On the citizenship by investment side, I'd say there are three jurisdictions that people are

00:40:56.900 interested in. It would be St. Kitts, Sao Tome, and El Salvador. Those are the three most popular ones.

00:41:03.000 And then for actual relocation, it would be Panama, Mexico, Costa Rica, and El Salvador.

00:41:09.340 Now, the United States, of course, is considered one of the freest places in the world.

00:41:14.860 They still, I believe, respect their Bill of Rights.

00:41:18.340 And a lot of people like it because it's so culturally similar to Canada.

00:41:23.140 I mean, heck, every Canadian has been to the States.

00:41:26.120 Is that one of the countries on your list, or is it too different?

00:41:30.720 I mean, they don't. I mean, Donald Trump, I think, talked about selling a golden visa for five million bucks or something.

00:41:37.480 Is the United States a pathway on this program, too?

00:41:41.040 Or is it just too long and expensive to be treated as a extra passport?

00:41:47.360 Yeah, I actually predicted Trump card a few weeks before they launched it.

00:41:51.820 I precisely outlined how it's going to work on Twitter.

00:41:54.640 and three weeks later i thought it was uh the peak of my career because how could i so perfectly

00:42:00.260 to to the dollar price i specifically said five million dollars um and they announced it but it's

00:42:06.460 been over a year and the program is still not truly life really and that's part of the reason

00:42:11.160 checks and balances in the u.s like there is slow change to the government and sometimes it's good

00:42:17.960 and sometimes it's bad so they have been unable to truly launch this program yet and i think

00:42:24.320 one of the options would be $1 million for a green card to actually relocate to the US. And I think

00:42:31.800 that would be a pretty popular program out there. Right now, immigration policies in the US are

00:42:39.540 being rewritten weekly. And it's been really hard to navigate current immigration because Trump

00:42:45.900 administration is putting lots of reforms out there. But there are still really good immigration

00:42:51.200 programs for canadians to come to the u.s work and live here full time uh this is not something

00:42:56.620 we do at citizen x you would need to find a good immigration lawyer in the u.s got it so people

00:43:02.100 when they think of your company citizen x it's not necessarily i want to live in the states or

00:43:08.100 even i want to live anywhere in particular it's i want that second passport as an insurance policy

00:43:14.500 as a plan b in case things go to hell as they did with the martial law so it's not hey where do you

00:43:21.860 want to retire it's hey where do you want your escape pod am i thinking about it correctly

00:43:27.540 for canadians yeah for canadians definitely but let's say a ukrainian citizen comes to us

00:43:33.160 they obviously have very different needs they have we care passport they are also being mobilized

00:43:39.800 actively right now so they're escaping a different sort of scenario russian citizens are they can't

00:43:45.740 travel anywhere just like indian citizens so they're just looking for a better mobility being

00:43:50.500 able to fly through europe without getting a visa so i guess thousand dollars on that okay so i mean

00:43:58.000 i forgot about that this isn't just an escape hatch it's a way to move around so if you had

00:44:04.260 a passport from St. Kitts and Nevis or from El Salvador,

00:44:07.860 you could use that to get on a plane and travel somewhere, obviously.

00:44:12.140 Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

00:44:13.800 So people from weak passport countries come from mobility.

00:44:17.580 People from Western countries with strong passports

00:44:19.900 come to hedge against their home country government

00:44:23.040 because their governments have their shit together

00:44:25.500 and they need to be able to hedge against that.

00:44:28.620 So it's depending on what are your threats, attack vectors, and goals.

00:44:33.040 and they that's what will answer which jurisdiction is best for you if you're saying that you could

00:44:39.520 get into a south to me and proceed passport for as little as 105 000 or 111 000 i think you said

00:44:48.440 for the whole family i mean that's that's a lot of money obviously but it's not a staggering

00:44:53.540 amount of money that's within reach i think of i mean that would be a stretch but i think an

00:45:00.060 ordinary person who is deeply concerned about freedom i think it i think it's something a lot

00:45:07.120 more people could reach for than just billionaires yep yeah exactly uh within our clients we see

00:45:14.580 blue-collar workers we see entrepreneurs uh self-made uh businessman it is much more affordable

00:45:21.400 today than it was let's say 20 years ago and the information is out there we are talking about it

00:45:27.260 on a daily basis on our website citizenx.com you can learn about every program out there how long

00:45:33.100 it takes how much it costs for my family precisely so it is out there and a lot more people take

00:45:39.800 action these days now uh you were talking to our team earlier and you said that if someone watching

00:45:46.220 this show signs up for an account on citizen x that you would give them a complimentary one-on-one

00:45:53.980 consultation to talk with them about their particular situation and you would actually

00:45:59.140 strategize with them about about this is that right yeah i'll be happy to do that i'll be happy

00:46:05.600 to brainstorm with whoever schedules the call we will go through your current situation your goals

00:46:11.080 and needs and strategize what is the best passport portfolio for you wow you know during covid i know

00:46:18.960 a lot of people left canada because canada was one of the harshest lockdowns there was and i think

00:46:25.280 that got people starting to think about what happens if this happens again what happens if

00:46:31.960 it gets worse people who would never in a million years have dreamed of leaving and i don't know i

00:46:39.260 just think it probably is a good insurance policy against political madness i'm really excited to

00:46:47.560 learn about this i appreciate you telling us the stories of these different countries i never in

00:46:52.560 a million years thought of it i think this is going to appeal to a fair number of rebel viewers

00:46:57.660 who are skeptics and but they're also planners you know what i mean they want to plan against

00:47:03.900 certain eventualities last word to you katie you have a very interesting story yourself you've come

00:47:10.620 from a place that was politically unstable you're in a safer place now so this isn't just theoretical

00:47:16.700 to you this is real life if you had one message to say to our viewers our rebel viewers who are

00:47:22.680 skeptical by nature but also very thoughtful what would you say to them about having a second

00:47:28.480 passport be a prepper not a doomer basically implement your strategy now uh forewarned means

00:47:37.880 forearmed so get your plan b before you need it you will sleep better and you will be able to

00:47:44.040 execute and get your family to safety out of a crisis whenever you need it. As you mentioned,

00:47:50.260 I was born and raised in a post-Soviet country. Seizure of assets is not new to me. Not being

00:47:55.380 able to cross borders is not new to me. But all these experiences is what brought me here to help

00:48:01.220 other people to build their passport portfolio. So forward is forearm. Get your Plan B passport now.

00:48:08.940 Very, very interesting. Well, we'll have the link on the screen for viewers who want to follow up

00:48:13.700 with you and i think you uh i think people would love to talk with you about these ideas because

00:48:18.300 it's really the first time i bet most of our viewers have even seriously thought about what

00:48:23.560 steps to take we've been talking to katie and anina the sponsor broadcast with citizen x.com

00:48:29.360 but isn't this so in sync with everything we talk about at rebel news katie thanks so much for your

00:48:37.820 time and i hope that you're able to help those rebel viewers who want to get a plan b going on

00:48:43.660 I hope you're able to help them.

00:48:45.280 I get the feeling you really know your stuff

00:48:47.180 and you'll help to walk people through it.

00:48:51.040 Thank you, Ezra. Thank you.

00:48:52.400 Perhaps we should look into your lineage

00:48:54.040 and see what we can execute there.

00:48:56.140 Well, you know, I've always said

00:48:58.220 I want to stay to the end and fight to the end.

00:49:00.440 But if, I hate to be dramatic,

00:49:02.500 if things really went dark

00:49:04.740 and they came to arrest me,

00:49:06.500 it probably is smart for me to have a plan B too.

00:49:09.800 I mean, I don't want to be dramatic,

00:49:10.960 but you know i've been arrested our company has been challenged civil liberties have been violated

00:49:17.900 i i really believe in fighting but what happens when god forbid you lose the flight the fight

00:49:23.560 and you got to go somewhere so i you know like you say be a prepper not a doomer

00:49:28.740 thank you ezra thank you great to talk with you there she is katie ananina the chief marketing

00:49:35.280 officer for citizen x what an interesting discussion give her call as you heard her say

00:49:42.240 complimentary one-on-one evaluation and consultation be a prepper not a doomer i like that

00:49:50.560 well that's our show for the day what a strange weekend it was

00:49:55.780 some of the best moments at our independent press gallery and student journalism conference

00:50:00.760 and one of the worst moments, seeing our truck driver harassed again.

00:50:04.980 That's life, isn't it?

00:50:06.540 Well, we'll keep fighting. You know that about us. We will keep fighting.

00:50:10.200 On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,

00:50:13.080 you keep fighting for freedom, too.

00:50:15.320 Good night.

Rebel News Podcast - September 01, 2026

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Toronto Police won't leave our billboard truck alone

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