Rebel News Podcast - March 12, 2020


Facebook censors Friends of Science： See who's behind the deplatforming


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In this episode, Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science joins me to talk about how the company is censoring climate change deniers, why she thinks tech companies should pull the plug on the Keystone XL pipeline, and more.

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00:01:21.520 Facebook is censoring our friends at Friends of Science.
00:01:37.560 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
00:01:51.520 Facebook has recently announced, or rather Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg has recently
00:02:02.900 announced that he's going to do less censoring of divergent viewpoints.
00:02:07.660 How nice of him.
00:02:08.860 But it's a strange statement to make when his company is still censoring people who are skeptical,
00:02:14.560 not of climate change itself, but rather at the responsibility being allotted to humanity
00:02:20.880 for an ever-evolving climate.
00:02:23.520 That's exactly what's happening to our friends at Friends of Science.
00:02:26.920 So joining me tonight in an interview we recorded yesterday afternoon from her home in Calgary
00:02:32.740 is Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science to tell us about how they are being censored by Facebook,
00:02:38.560 but also to talk about the young German anti-Greta,
00:02:42.620 why Michelle thinks tech pulled the plug on its frontier oil sands mine,
00:02:46.400 and a whole host of other issues happening in the world of climate change.
00:02:50.440 We'll be right back.
00:03:20.440 We have a great new video out about Alberta's climate future,
00:03:27.680 and you dismantle meticulously this report done by a high-profile climate scientist,
00:03:38.620 the one that Catherine McKenna always runs to to back up all of her crazy claims. 0.99
00:03:42.360 You took it all apart.
00:03:43.920 She has this doomsday scenario out there for Alberta,
00:03:46.600 and you just meticulously dismantled it.
00:03:49.260 Well, we haven't quite gotten into the most meticulous part.
00:03:53.240 We're still working on that,
00:03:54.360 but certainly a foundational premise of any of these catastrophic reports
00:03:59.980 is to check and see if there's a thing in there referred to as the RCP 8.5,
00:04:06.360 which is the representative concentration pathway.
00:04:09.860 And these are referring to a set of climate models or simulations,
00:04:17.420 which the researchers use to try and determine what are the drivers of different climate scenarios.
00:04:26.440 Like, let's say with the 8.5, we go back to entirely using coal,
00:04:32.480 and we have no climate mitigation.
00:04:36.320 So, that makes it a very extreme response in the model.
00:04:41.060 So, a great deal of warming.
00:04:42.600 But they never intended for people to use them as optional pathways.
00:04:50.020 Like, if we go to the 8.5, we get this.
00:04:52.480 If we go to the 2.6, we get that.
00:04:55.020 Because the 2.6, RCP 2.6, is 3 billion less people.
00:05:01.620 So, you can see how some people have misunderstood these things
00:05:07.820 and are actually advocating for depopulating the planet.
00:05:12.560 In the Alberta Climate Future report,
00:05:16.820 this 8.5 scenario features prevalently,
00:05:21.380 and it was never meant to be used that way.
00:05:24.200 And there's a climate policy analyst named Roger Pielke Jr. in the States.
00:05:29.820 His father is a very well-known climate scientist,
00:05:33.680 but Roger Pielke Jr. is a climate policy analyst.
00:05:39.020 And he's made quite a detailed study of this,
00:05:42.660 and he's found that actually these two green billionaires in the States,
00:05:47.960 Thomas Steyer, who killed the Keystone XL pipeline,
00:05:52.000 and Michael Bloomberg, who recently was trying to run for president,
00:05:56.320 they and a group of activists have published this report,
00:06:01.680 Risky Business, in about 2014.
00:06:04.440 And they used this, what he calls the climate porn scenario,
00:06:09.960 which is the RCP 8.5.
00:06:12.440 Now, they also funded the promotion of this Risky Business report.
00:06:17.360 So, it's become very, very popular in business circles, too.
00:06:20.920 So, when people tell you that they think there's a climate emergency
00:06:24.760 on the horizon, that's where it's coming from.
00:06:28.220 It's coming from this very unrealistic,
00:06:31.240 not meant to be used this way, RCP 8.5.
00:06:35.780 So, everybody can just calm down about climate change.
00:06:40.060 And whenever you see a report that's scary,
00:06:43.220 look at that paper and see if it uses the RCP 8.5,
00:06:47.280 because probably it does.
00:06:48.680 And this stuff just gets repeated and repeated and repeated,
00:06:52.700 and it ends up in just about every single argument
00:06:55.760 for carbon taxes, for carbon trading, for carbon offsets.
00:07:01.460 They just keep building on this one fallacy.
00:07:05.840 Right, that's right.
00:07:07.080 And Roger Pielke Jr. has written a couple of good articles on Forbes,
00:07:13.860 like Risky Business was the basis for 11 talks
00:07:17.940 at the annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union.
00:07:21.880 A 2016 paper published in the prestigious Journal of Science
00:07:27.060 from the Risky Business Project
00:07:29.760 introduced the erroneous notion of moving from one RCP scenario
00:07:35.680 to the other.
00:07:36.600 And this is what Catherine Hayhoe does in her presentation.
00:07:41.620 Inside our video, we have a little clip
00:07:43.820 that we shot at the University of Calgary when she was here,
00:07:47.220 I think it was in 2018, for the CITES conference.
00:07:50.940 And she does exactly that.
00:07:52.760 She shows RCP 8.5 and saying, you know,
00:07:56.160 we were going up here, but now we're reducing the curve,
00:07:59.560 we're bending the curve, and we're going to reduce our emissions.
00:08:03.700 And she points to RCP 4.5.
00:08:06.380 And then she says an amazing thing.
00:08:08.980 This is a climate expert.
00:08:11.560 She tells us that we're reducing our emissions because of China.
00:08:17.260 Because China's installed so much wind and solar,
00:08:20.460 which is absolute nonsense, because China puts out in a month 0.88
00:08:24.040 what Canada puts out in a whole year.
00:08:26.260 So, you know, just looking at that, you can say, okay, well,
00:08:30.740 if that's how much she knows about emissions in the world,
00:08:34.880 we better question also this paper.
00:08:37.660 Yeah, yeah.
00:08:38.560 And then Global News reports it as, you know,
00:08:41.600 as, you know, the catastrophe of the climate is right around the corner
00:08:46.520 and you better stock up on toilet paper.
00:08:48.540 It's just, you know, it's a crazy, crazy thing.
00:08:52.420 Now, you mentioned, I just want to bump ahead,
00:08:55.200 because you actually already mentioned this,
00:08:58.380 that some of these doomsday scenarios
00:09:01.160 or some of the data they're using,
00:09:04.840 based on the fact that there's 3 billion fewer people
00:09:10.600 on the face of the earth.
00:09:13.040 And Friends of Science had a press release out,
00:09:16.660 you put out February 11th,
00:09:19.480 that talks about this sort of depopulation idea,
00:09:26.800 thought bubble, that was kicked around Davos.
00:09:29.740 Now, they don't mean that they are going to depopulate,
00:09:33.120 they mean the rest of us.
00:09:35.400 Well, yeah, you know, it is quite scary when you have, say,
00:09:38.500 Jane Goodall, very famous woman, done a lot for...
00:09:42.060 Save the gorillas, not the people. 1.00
00:09:43.200 ...orillas and everything.
00:09:44.160 But, you know, she's advocating for, like,
00:09:49.440 the planet would be a lot healthier
00:09:52.500 if we had a population like several hundred years ago,
00:09:58.800 when I forget what the number was,
00:10:00.460 it was like a population of about 500 million people,
00:10:04.740 like some ridiculously small figure.
00:10:08.040 And this, she's saying,
00:10:09.160 in front of all the most influential business
00:10:12.200 and economic people of the world and world leaders.
00:10:16.120 So what conclusion are people to draw from that
00:10:20.240 and then add to it all of these scary scenarios,
00:10:23.360 which often refer to this 2.6, RCP 2.6,
00:10:28.200 as if it's a pathway, you know, to reducing emissions.
00:10:31.820 Well, yes, let's knock off a bunch of people.
00:10:34.840 And, I mean, sadly, we've even seen this on Twitter
00:10:38.880 with the horrific sadness, the tragedy happening in China,
00:10:44.080 where some of these climate advocates are saying,
00:10:47.020 well, look at this.
00:10:48.540 It's great how China has reduced its emissions
00:10:51.220 while people are dying and not working.
00:10:55.400 It's like, are you people safe to be around?
00:10:59.060 Yeah.
00:10:59.460 I mean, it's so anti-human.
00:11:02.820 And they tell me they're not a religious cult,
00:11:08.040 but when Tim Gray,
00:11:10.440 so the Director of Environmental Defense,
00:11:12.500 who was on the Oil Sands Advisory Group,
00:11:15.160 appointed by Notley,
00:11:16.380 when he says stuff like the coronavirus or COVID-19
00:11:20.520 or the Wuhan flu, whatever they're calling it today,
00:11:24.280 when he says stuff like,
00:11:26.760 that's just, you know, an angry earth.
00:11:29.720 Oh, right.
00:11:30.220 You're telling us to change our ways.
00:11:33.220 Yeah.
00:11:33.900 Guy is revenge over my SUV.
00:11:36.780 It is this disease that could harm, you know,
00:11:42.460 all of the old people. 0.91
00:11:44.380 I mean, it's just so crazy that they say these things
00:11:49.160 with a straight face
00:11:50.040 and then are welcomed into polite society,
00:11:53.980 an elite society,
00:11:54.820 like they're not complete lunatics.
00:11:56.300 Well, you know, the other thing you should know
00:11:59.320 is that based on CRA documents,
00:12:03.100 Canadian taxpayers are funding environmental defense
00:12:06.420 for about 30%.
00:12:08.260 That makes perfect sense.
00:12:12.300 I did an investigation into the Pembina Institute,
00:12:16.440 just how much money they've received
00:12:18.920 since Justin Trudeau took office
00:12:20.320 and actually since, like, 2017.
00:12:24.200 And it's in the millions versus,
00:12:26.440 I think it was $200,000 in grants
00:12:28.840 over the 10 years that Harper was in government.
00:12:32.320 They really, these environmental groups
00:12:34.420 have sort of become an arm
00:12:36.560 of the federal government.
00:12:39.500 They're like the research and development
00:12:41.760 and policy arm of the federal government.
00:12:44.100 I mean, when all of their funding
00:12:45.880 is coming from the federal government
00:12:47.540 and all of the policies,
00:12:49.080 the crazy policy ideas
00:12:50.060 are being fed upstream
00:12:51.480 and adopted by the government,
00:12:53.140 they're really not any different
00:12:54.480 than the government.
00:12:55.560 I just can't A-tip them
00:12:57.140 to find out what they're talking about.
00:12:59.720 That's very true.
00:13:00.960 And Parker Gallant has done
00:13:02.700 a very interesting series of blog posts
00:13:05.780 about the new Canadian Institute
00:13:08.460 for Climate Choices,
00:13:09.800 which also use those same RCP 8.5 and 2.6
00:13:14.840 in their charting our course document.
00:13:19.480 They were paying them $20 million
00:13:22.760 to have a panel of people
00:13:26.140 who all agree with each other
00:13:27.500 that we should be carbon taxed to death.
00:13:30.220 So that's just great, eh?
00:13:32.660 Great answer.
00:13:35.080 Let's just bump ahead now to,
00:13:37.100 you guys have a great video
00:13:39.220 about a girl I've actually met.
00:13:41.600 I met her actually in Madrid
00:13:43.160 at the United Nations
00:13:44.580 Climate Change Conference,
00:13:45.900 Naomi Seip.
00:13:47.180 People call her the anti-Greta. 1.00
00:13:48.880 I don't know if she likes
00:13:49.960 that term herself,
00:13:51.420 but she's a kid 0.90
00:13:52.940 on the other side of the debate
00:13:55.020 who just wants the debate.
00:13:57.580 Right.
00:13:58.160 Whereas little Greta 0.93
00:13:59.860 seems to be a bit of a tyrant.
00:14:01.800 She wants to tell grown-ups
00:14:03.220 what to do.
00:14:04.400 She wants to tell politicians
00:14:05.660 what to do.
00:14:06.340 She doesn't want to go to school.
00:14:07.680 Sounds like a typical teenager
00:14:08.940 if you ask me.
00:14:09.740 But Naomi, 1.00
00:14:11.720 on the flip side,
00:14:12.740 she just says,
00:14:13.420 hey, let's talk about this.
00:14:15.280 There are two sides.
00:14:16.920 And she's sort of becoming
00:14:19.140 a little bit of an internet sensation.
00:14:22.440 Yes.
00:14:22.960 Well, we did a video
00:14:24.180 where we work with CLINTEL,
00:14:28.260 Climate Intelligence Organization,
00:14:30.220 out of Holland.
00:14:31.180 And we are trying to stimulate debate.
00:14:35.160 Of course, that's what CLINTEL
00:14:36.300 has been doing, too.
00:14:37.200 They've been taking formal declarations
00:14:40.700 to the EU Parliament.
00:14:42.320 They sent a registered letter
00:14:43.680 to the United Nations
00:14:45.040 the same day that Greta was there.
00:14:47.500 They've gone to Oslo.
00:14:48.860 They sent a letter
00:14:50.420 to the World Economic Forum.
00:14:52.660 Anyway,
00:14:52.920 and we find that,
00:14:55.400 you know,
00:14:56.120 Naomi Seidt
00:14:57.080 is a very interesting young woman.
00:14:58.920 She's actually an adult now
00:15:00.300 because she's 19.
00:15:01.820 Yeah.
00:15:02.100 Although she did begin
00:15:03.280 the climate issue
00:15:04.660 quite some years ago,
00:15:06.700 I believe.
00:15:07.820 And,
00:15:08.140 you know,
00:15:09.500 just the fact that
00:15:10.260 she is actually advocating
00:15:11.800 for something
00:15:12.460 that is a calm
00:15:13.900 and open debate,
00:15:14.880 which is also what
00:15:15.720 CLINTEL advocates for
00:15:17.460 and what we also advocate
00:15:19.060 for at Friends of Science,
00:15:20.500 open civil debate.
00:15:21.700 So it's very interesting
00:15:23.500 to see that now
00:15:25.180 our young people
00:15:26.120 also have another role model
00:15:28.060 who is very polite,
00:15:30.280 very calm,
00:15:31.220 well-informed,
00:15:32.580 and willing to talk
00:15:34.360 rather than berate.
00:15:37.540 Yeah.
00:15:37.940 Yeah.
00:15:38.200 She has,
00:15:39.060 I've met her.
00:15:40.160 She's a very nice
00:15:41.000 young lady
00:15:42.440 and not angry.
00:15:45.720 She's,
00:15:46.500 I'm a grown-up.
00:15:47.580 She didn't yell at me.
00:15:48.660 So I think
00:15:49.340 there's a strong divergence
00:15:51.380 from Greta.
00:15:53.600 Well,
00:15:54.060 I want to just say
00:15:55.320 I did just read
00:15:56.320 Scenes from the Heart,
00:15:58.140 the book that was
00:15:59.480 presumably written
00:16:01.040 mostly by Greta's mom.
00:16:03.300 Yeah.
00:16:03.660 And,
00:16:04.160 you know,
00:16:05.760 that poor girl 1.00
00:16:06.540 has grown up
00:16:07.220 in a very unusual family.
00:16:09.060 so I think probably
00:16:13.020 it has helped
00:16:13.740 Greta to do 0.83
00:16:14.480 her mission.
00:16:18.080 Her,
00:16:19.020 but it hasn't helped
00:16:19.800 the millions of other kids
00:16:21.080 who are now
00:16:22.080 having sleepless nights
00:16:23.800 and terrors
00:16:24.700 and fears
00:16:26.080 of an apocalyptic end.
00:16:28.000 And,
00:16:28.180 you know,
00:16:28.540 unfortunately,
00:16:29.280 like,
00:16:29.920 she just keeps 0.74
00:16:30.580 misinterpreting the science
00:16:32.280 just as this
00:16:33.500 8.5,
00:16:35.280 RCP 8.5,
00:16:36.680 as I mentioned to you.
00:16:37.600 Well,
00:16:38.920 she went back to school.
00:16:40.320 She might be able
00:16:41.220 to take another look
00:16:43.700 at that science
00:16:44.460 and maybe understand
00:16:45.660 it a little better.
00:16:47.340 Yeah,
00:16:47.820 I definitely have
00:16:48.880 compassion for Greta.
00:16:50.160 She grew up
00:16:50.780 in a weird household.
00:16:51.620 She's basically
00:16:52.540 a child actor
00:16:53.500 and we know
00:16:54.280 how life is
00:16:55.280 for a lot of
00:16:56.400 child actors.
00:16:58.240 And I do think
00:16:59.880 that her activism
00:17:01.040 is probably
00:17:01.720 giving her
00:17:02.600 some sort of
00:17:03.820 reason for being.
00:17:06.780 But so does
00:17:07.680 being a girl guide.
00:17:08.860 You know what I mean?
00:17:09.920 I do.
00:17:10.440 Yes,
00:17:10.720 I do.
00:17:11.240 And,
00:17:11.480 unfortunately,
00:17:13.060 I think for someone
00:17:13.940 who's already terrified
00:17:15.080 of climate change,
00:17:16.180 it's probably not good
00:17:17.300 for your mental health
00:17:18.100 to put you on a stage
00:17:19.200 and have you say
00:17:19.920 terrifying things
00:17:20.760 about climate change
00:17:21.600 every day.
00:17:22.000 It's probably better
00:17:23.160 to calm people down,
00:17:25.160 give them a broader
00:17:25.780 perspective.
00:17:26.900 And, you know,
00:17:27.740 like Nomi's trying to do,
00:17:29.460 like Clintel is trying to do,
00:17:30.740 and like what we try to do
00:17:32.240 to open the conversation,
00:17:34.300 get more perspective,
00:17:35.520 get some historical perspective
00:17:37.040 and calm down.
00:17:40.320 Yeah.
00:17:41.660 Speaking of kids
00:17:42.660 calming down,
00:17:44.080 this is like
00:17:45.260 a social contagion
00:17:46.400 with kids
00:17:47.640 and climate change.
00:17:48.940 the tech
00:17:51.960 frontier oil
00:17:52.900 sands mine
00:17:53.520 has been
00:17:55.380 tragically cancelled,
00:17:57.240 taking with it
00:17:58.040 7,000 jobs,
00:17:59.200 21 billion dollars
00:18:00.200 in construction,
00:18:01.500 70 billion dollars
00:18:02.700 over the course
00:18:03.400 of the project's
00:18:04.760 lifetime
00:18:05.200 to governments.
00:18:08.240 And
00:18:08.460 CBC Kids
00:18:09.740 was,
00:18:12.280 you know,
00:18:12.680 for all intents
00:18:13.260 and purposes,
00:18:14.520 promoting
00:18:15.120 kids going
00:18:16.520 on a hunger strike
00:18:17.700 across the country
00:18:18.900 against
00:18:20.120 the mine.
00:18:22.160 And, you know,
00:18:23.520 200 kids,
00:18:26.000 according to CBC,
00:18:28.180 200 kids
00:18:28.900 from across Canada
00:18:30.060 had pledged
00:18:30.900 to go on a hunger strike.
00:18:32.660 How do you do business
00:18:34.020 in this country
00:18:35.760 when you have
00:18:36.640 the national broadcaster,
00:18:38.600 the state broadcaster,
00:18:40.500 promoting kids
00:18:41.520 hunger striking
00:18:42.480 against jobs
00:18:43.580 for other kids' parents?
00:18:45.240 Yes,
00:18:46.960 well,
00:18:47.200 you know,
00:18:47.440 many people
00:18:47.940 thought that
00:18:48.500 tech pulled out,
00:18:49.400 I think it was
00:18:50.300 Warren Kinsella,
00:18:51.340 perhaps,
00:18:52.200 or was it yesterday?
00:18:53.040 Dave Yeager
00:18:53.560 was on Daniel Smith
00:18:54.620 and he suggested
00:18:56.520 that Warren
00:18:57.000 had
00:18:57.460 hinted
00:19:00.320 or said
00:19:01.120 on Twitter,
00:19:01.740 I didn't see it,
00:19:02.860 that perhaps
00:19:03.820 Cabinet
00:19:04.280 had called tech
00:19:05.160 and said,
00:19:05.620 hey,
00:19:05.820 you know,
00:19:06.080 the blockades
00:19:06.740 are problematic
00:19:07.380 and maybe
00:19:08.600 you should
00:19:08.900 just step back.
00:19:10.780 But I think,
00:19:12.120 you know,
00:19:12.880 if I was the CEO
00:19:13.740 of a corporation,
00:19:14.980 I'd be willing
00:19:15.860 to negotiate
00:19:16.520 with all these people
00:19:17.680 along the way.
00:19:18.460 But the minute
00:19:18.920 you tell me
00:19:19.660 you're going to have
00:19:20.860 hunger striking children
00:19:22.520 against my project,
00:19:25.300 sorry,
00:19:26.580 you know,
00:19:27.060 that would be the time
00:19:27.840 to leave the building.
00:19:28.960 Like,
00:19:29.180 this is ridiculous.
00:19:31.520 And then
00:19:31.780 I understand
00:19:33.120 from another colleague
00:19:34.260 that
00:19:34.660 one of the children
00:19:36.860 involved
00:19:37.460 is the
00:19:38.180 son of
00:19:39.280 an environmental writer
00:19:40.540 who frequently writes
00:19:41.680 for the Globe and Mail
00:19:42.620 and
00:19:43.840 his father
00:19:45.840 is a
00:19:46.720 media photographer.
00:19:48.360 So,
00:19:49.200 you know,
00:19:49.660 you've got to wonder
00:19:50.340 about
00:19:50.740 where's the media
00:19:52.540 in Canada
00:19:53.200 on this too.
00:19:54.580 Are you kidding me?
00:19:55.640 Like,
00:19:56.000 you're setting up
00:19:56.640 your kid
00:19:57.260 to hunger strike
00:19:58.720 to block
00:19:59.500 billions of dollars
00:20:00.780 in economic development
00:20:02.780 and thousands
00:20:03.980 of jobs.
00:20:05.180 Jobs that would
00:20:05.980 benefit you too
00:20:07.100 because that
00:20:07.740 spin-off income
00:20:09.120 goes all across
00:20:09.940 the country.
00:20:10.540 you know,
00:20:12.120 and you're going
00:20:12.480 to put your kid
00:20:13.100 at risk?
00:20:14.860 Like,
00:20:15.300 what is this fad?
00:20:16.220 I mean,
00:20:16.420 we're supposed
00:20:16.800 to protect
00:20:17.340 our children.
00:20:18.020 We're not supposed
00:20:18.500 to put them
00:20:18.960 at risk.
00:20:19.480 We're not supposed
00:20:19.940 to put them
00:20:20.380 in sailboats
00:20:21.140 out in the middle
00:20:21.560 of the ocean.
00:20:22.120 It's a very weird
00:20:26.300 world we live in.
00:20:28.020 Yeah,
00:20:28.260 it's strange
00:20:30.140 that nobody
00:20:30.980 is looking at this.
00:20:33.100 Not to say
00:20:33.900 that nobody's
00:20:34.400 looking at this.
00:20:35.300 Let me correct myself.
00:20:36.980 You and I
00:20:37.600 and all the normals
00:20:38.780 out there
00:20:39.320 are looking at this
00:20:40.640 through the lens
00:20:42.300 that this is
00:20:42.820 just child exploitation.
00:20:45.800 Yes.
00:20:46.240 They're kids.
00:20:47.780 Yeah.
00:20:48.260 You know what?
00:20:48.800 I wouldn't let
00:20:49.740 my kid go
00:20:50.460 on a hunger strike.
00:20:51.640 I don't let my kid
00:20:52.540 get up from the table
00:20:53.360 till supper's done.
00:20:54.360 You know what I mean?
00:20:55.080 That's how you parent.
00:20:56.020 And these parents
00:20:59.260 were willing
00:21:00.540 to allow
00:21:02.320 their children
00:21:03.220 to starve themselves.
00:21:05.720 This isn't like
00:21:06.340 an adult going
00:21:07.100 on a hunger strike either.
00:21:08.760 This is children
00:21:09.900 who their brains
00:21:11.240 are growing,
00:21:11.760 their bodies
00:21:12.180 are growing.
00:21:13.180 They need
00:21:13.960 these nutrients
00:21:14.960 and these parents
00:21:16.580 who are,
00:21:17.660 of course,
00:21:18.060 environmentalists
00:21:18.840 who passed on
00:21:19.720 their contagion,
00:21:20.960 their social contagion
00:21:21.900 to their children,
00:21:22.860 they were going
00:21:23.380 to allow their children
00:21:24.180 to starve themselves
00:21:25.180 and nobody
00:21:26.420 in the media
00:21:27.200 thought,
00:21:28.340 what the heck
00:21:29.120 is wrong
00:21:29.400 with you parents?
00:21:30.640 Your kids
00:21:31.960 are going
00:21:32.780 to jeopardize
00:21:33.560 their health.
00:21:34.180 It could have
00:21:34.740 lifelong ramifications
00:21:36.320 and you're fine
00:21:37.520 with it
00:21:37.960 because you don't
00:21:38.920 like tech.
00:21:40.320 It's insane.
00:21:42.060 Yeah,
00:21:42.640 it's very problematic
00:21:44.360 that people think
00:21:45.700 that this is okay.
00:21:46.720 I mean,
00:21:47.060 people keep saying
00:21:48.060 things like,
00:21:48.600 well,
00:21:48.760 you know,
00:21:49.020 the young people
00:21:49.900 are showing us
00:21:50.620 the way.
00:21:51.920 You know,
00:21:52.400 children,
00:21:53.140 I can remember
00:21:53.700 when I was a kid,
00:21:54.500 I thought
00:21:55.800 like my great-grandfather
00:21:57.740 was an aviation pioneer
00:22:00.760 and I remember
00:22:02.160 when my dad
00:22:02.700 told me about him,
00:22:03.800 one day I thought,
00:22:04.620 wow,
00:22:05.300 I think it was
00:22:05.960 about six or seven,
00:22:06.780 I thought,
00:22:07.140 you know,
00:22:07.320 I could jump off
00:22:08.120 the roof of the garage
00:22:09.380 and if I had wooden wings,
00:22:10.960 I could fly,
00:22:12.520 you know.
00:22:13.240 Fortunately,
00:22:13.600 he intervened
00:22:14.760 while I was making
00:22:15.520 those wings
00:22:16.160 and said,
00:22:16.620 what are you making?
00:22:17.540 And I told him
00:22:18.320 and he said,
00:22:19.000 no,
00:22:19.520 you're not going
00:22:20.520 to do that.
00:22:21.500 But,
00:22:22.180 you know,
00:22:22.500 this is the problem.
00:22:23.360 Children don't have 0.77
00:22:24.180 that perspective,
00:22:25.140 they've lived experience
00:22:26.440 and they are often
00:22:28.760 very well-meaning
00:22:29.640 and it's often
00:22:30.400 straight from the heart
00:22:31.380 for them.
00:22:32.460 But that doesn't make
00:22:33.840 it a wise decision.
00:22:35.940 Yeah,
00:22:36.680 I just,
00:22:37.500 it's just a failing
00:22:38.980 of the parents involved
00:22:41.000 and the media
00:22:42.900 for not even
00:22:44.980 thinking about,
00:22:46.340 like,
00:22:47.460 they don't see
00:22:49.060 anything through
00:22:49.660 a normal lens
00:22:50.520 at all.
00:22:51.840 It's like,
00:22:52.540 there's the media
00:22:53.340 operating in this bubble
00:22:54.540 where they think,
00:22:55.140 yeah,
00:22:55.300 kids on hunger strike,
00:22:56.240 that's a great idea
00:22:57.180 and the rest of us
00:22:58.300 are mortified about it.
00:22:59.520 It's so crazy.
00:23:01.060 However,
00:23:01.760 if it keeps up,
00:23:02.760 I'll have job security
00:23:03.940 for the rest of my days.
00:23:08.240 Now,
00:23:08.800 I wanted to
00:23:09.640 talk to you
00:23:11.660 about
00:23:12.260 somebody we both know,
00:23:14.580 Drew Barnes,
00:23:15.560 UCP,
00:23:16.340 MLA,
00:23:17.460 fantastic guy.
00:23:19.780 He is
00:23:21.380 like you and I
00:23:22.780 in that he believes
00:23:24.380 in hearing all sides.
00:23:26.440 So,
00:23:27.100 you know,
00:23:28.280 he's in trouble now
00:23:30.160 from the professional
00:23:32.080 scolds on the left
00:23:33.560 and in the mainstream media
00:23:34.840 because
00:23:35.680 he wanted to hear
00:23:37.480 all sides
00:23:39.340 of
00:23:40.440 the climate change debate.
00:23:43.160 I was reading
00:23:44.440 the article
00:23:45.140 in the Medicine Hat
00:23:47.080 News.
00:23:49.380 Oh,
00:23:49.740 Jeremy Appel.
00:23:51.580 You know what?
00:23:52.480 As soon as I saw
00:23:53.200 the author,
00:23:53.700 I knew this was bad.
00:23:54.860 Anyways,
00:23:55.740 Barnes says
00:23:56.600 attending
00:23:57.100 climate skeptics
00:23:58.200 groups event
00:23:59.240 will be about
00:24:00.760 listening
00:24:01.600 and learning.
00:24:03.580 And
00:24:03.900 listening and learning
00:24:05.320 is,
00:24:05.660 of course,
00:24:06.380 in scare quotes
00:24:07.600 because
00:24:08.060 you can't
00:24:09.100 listen and learn
00:24:10.780 from the other
00:24:12.100 side of the
00:24:12.740 debate.
00:24:13.060 And this
00:24:14.060 is the
00:24:15.520 event.
00:24:17.640 Your
00:24:18.280 friends of science
00:24:19.120 event,
00:24:19.420 it's your event
00:24:20.220 that they have a
00:24:21.120 problem with.
00:24:22.660 And
00:24:23.280 it's not like you
00:24:25.700 have
00:24:26.020 wackadoodles here
00:24:27.460 and
00:24:28.780 doomsday
00:24:29.480 preachers
00:24:30.000 at this
00:24:30.480 thing.
00:24:30.740 You have
00:24:31.100 like
00:24:31.440 scientists
00:24:32.080 and
00:24:33.860 pretty
00:24:35.420 notable
00:24:35.940 people
00:24:36.740 who know
00:24:38.280 what they're
00:24:38.560 talking about.
00:24:39.820 Tell us
00:24:40.340 about this.
00:24:41.780 Okay,
00:24:42.140 so we're
00:24:42.720 hosting an
00:24:43.340 event on
00:24:43.780 April the
00:24:44.260 6th,
00:24:44.900 God willing,
00:24:46.420 and
00:24:46.620 COVID-19
00:24:48.540 and all that.
00:24:49.300 I hope
00:24:49.500 everything works
00:24:50.180 out.
00:24:50.980 But
00:24:51.160 we're
00:24:51.720 hosting the
00:24:53.220 event
00:24:53.580 here in
00:24:54.620 Calgary at
00:24:55.040 the Red and
00:24:55.360 White Club 0.79
00:24:55.760 as we
00:24:56.320 do every
00:24:57.120 year.
00:24:58.020 And
00:24:58.340 we have
00:24:59.320 two guest
00:24:59.920 speakers.
00:25:00.520 One is
00:25:00.800 Donna Laframboise.
00:25:02.200 She's an 0.95
00:25:02.660 investigative
00:25:03.180 journalist and
00:25:04.040 she also wrote
00:25:04.660 the book
00:25:05.120 The Delinquent
00:25:06.300 Teenager,
00:25:07.180 which is about
00:25:07.800 the UNIPCC,
00:25:09.960 the climate
00:25:11.080 panel that
00:25:11.880 puts out
00:25:12.320 the climate
00:25:12.980 bible that
00:25:14.460 all governments
00:25:15.240 rely on for
00:25:16.520 setting climate
00:25:17.420 policy.
00:25:18.680 And she did
00:25:19.320 this way
00:25:20.420 back in
00:25:20.900 around 2011
00:25:21.660 and we
00:25:22.560 actually hosted
00:25:23.260 her in 2012.
00:25:24.920 Everyone
00:25:25.140 really enjoyed
00:25:25.820 her so we 0.99
00:25:26.260 decided to
00:25:26.720 have her
00:25:26.940 back.
00:25:28.320 And she
00:25:29.040 found that
00:25:29.660 groups like
00:25:31.100 Greenpeace
00:25:32.080 and World
00:25:33.200 Wild Fund
00:25:33.860 are,
00:25:35.460 these
00:25:35.820 activists are
00:25:36.660 lead authors
00:25:37.460 on some of
00:25:38.400 the IPCC
00:25:39.260 supposedly science
00:25:40.900 reports.
00:25:42.500 These groups
00:25:43.720 are the same
00:25:44.380 groups who
00:25:44.820 were actively
00:25:45.520 in the
00:25:46.220 tar sands
00:25:46.780 campaign
00:25:47.360 shutting down
00:25:48.240 jobs in
00:25:49.280 Alberta and
00:25:49.920 trying to
00:25:50.420 totally destroy
00:25:51.200 our economy.
00:25:52.000 and they've
00:25:53.280 done a
00:25:54.360 very good
00:25:54.900 job I
00:25:55.420 must say.
00:25:57.560 Anyway,
00:25:58.460 so she
00:25:59.120 will be
00:25:59.500 speaking on
00:26:00.100 freedom of
00:26:00.600 speech because
00:26:01.320 she's been
00:26:01.840 tracking this
00:26:02.600 issue associated
00:26:03.580 with the
00:26:04.180 climate movement
00:26:04.780 for many
00:26:05.200 years and
00:26:06.160 she finds
00:26:07.000 that the
00:26:07.380 climate activists
00:26:08.200 really want
00:26:08.780 your freedom.
00:26:09.620 They want
00:26:10.260 everything.
00:26:11.020 They want
00:26:11.520 your job,
00:26:12.180 they want
00:26:12.520 your house,
00:26:13.900 your car,
00:26:15.000 your travel,
00:26:15.860 everything.
00:26:16.740 And they
00:26:17.340 won't stop
00:26:17.940 until they get
00:26:18.460 it.
00:26:18.620 It's not
00:26:20.640 something to
00:26:21.180 laugh about.
00:26:21.760 They're quite
00:26:22.040 serious for
00:26:22.900 the most
00:26:23.240 part, the
00:26:23.600 more radical
00:26:24.980 people are.
00:26:27.520 And, you
00:26:28.140 know, let's
00:26:29.060 not confuse
00:26:29.680 the environment
00:26:30.400 and climate
00:26:31.200 change.
00:26:31.920 Everybody
00:26:32.220 wants to
00:26:32.820 have a
00:26:33.200 clean, nice
00:26:33.940 environment and
00:26:34.960 we're doing a
00:26:35.480 good job of
00:26:36.020 that in
00:26:36.340 Canada.
00:26:37.460 So climate
00:26:38.280 change is
00:26:38.800 something else.
00:26:39.660 It's carbon
00:26:40.080 taxes, it's
00:26:41.020 carbon dioxide
00:26:41.800 and mythical
00:26:43.220 models.
00:26:44.240 So our next
00:26:44.740 speaker is Dr.
00:26:45.680 Roy Spencer.
00:26:46.500 He's a NASA
00:26:47.180 award-winning
00:26:48.140 scientist.
00:26:49.400 He and his
00:26:50.380 colleague, Dr.
00:26:51.240 John Christie,
00:26:52.020 handled the
00:26:52.780 satellite data
00:26:53.960 out of the
00:26:55.160 University of
00:26:56.140 Alabama,
00:26:56.900 Huntsville.
00:26:58.920 And the
00:27:00.820 satellite data,
00:27:01.600 of course,
00:27:01.920 shows that
00:27:02.360 there's been
00:27:02.820 very little
00:27:03.400 warming over
00:27:05.520 the past 20
00:27:06.880 years or so,
00:27:08.420 whereas some
00:27:09.820 of the land
00:27:10.520 temperature records
00:27:11.680 show that there
00:27:12.280 has been
00:27:12.660 warming.
00:27:13.180 So this is
00:27:13.740 why Dr.
00:27:14.560 Spencer is an
00:27:15.180 interesting person.
00:27:16.360 He's deemed
00:27:16.860 to be a
00:27:17.320 skeptic.
00:27:17.800 He says
00:27:18.360 that he's
00:27:18.720 not a
00:27:19.120 skeptic.
00:27:19.840 He agrees
00:27:20.320 that humans
00:27:21.280 cause some
00:27:22.480 warming.
00:27:23.500 But how
00:27:23.900 much?
00:27:24.340 That's the
00:27:24.780 question.
00:27:25.540 And what
00:27:26.000 exactly is
00:27:26.940 the driver
00:27:27.460 of it?
00:27:28.680 You know,
00:27:29.720 because we
00:27:30.180 do many
00:27:30.720 things that
00:27:31.320 change climate
00:27:32.340 regionally,
00:27:33.240 like land
00:27:34.260 use,
00:27:34.740 agriculture,
00:27:35.660 deforestation,
00:27:36.720 building big
00:27:37.320 cities,
00:27:38.200 diverting water
00:27:39.080 like James
00:27:39.700 Bay Dam.
00:27:40.940 These things
00:27:41.720 have climate
00:27:42.680 effects regionally,
00:27:43.820 and they're all
00:27:44.200 things that
00:27:44.620 humans do.
00:27:45.240 So there's
00:27:46.620 no doubt
00:27:47.260 that we
00:27:47.620 do affect
00:27:48.140 climate.
00:27:49.000 But how
00:27:49.300 much?
00:27:49.800 And will
00:27:50.100 a carbon
00:27:50.420 tax change
00:27:51.160 that?
00:27:51.940 So, you
00:27:52.520 know, these
00:27:52.840 are very
00:27:53.860 respectable
00:27:54.380 speakers, and
00:27:55.460 I find it
00:27:55.920 very odd in
00:27:56.920 the two
00:27:57.800 stories, there's
00:27:58.800 one from
00:27:59.120 chat radio,
00:27:59.860 one from
00:28:00.300 the Medicine
00:28:00.800 Hat News,
00:28:01.780 that they
00:28:02.440 didn't really
00:28:03.100 bother to
00:28:03.940 talk much
00:28:04.820 about the
00:28:05.200 credentials of
00:28:05.840 the people,
00:28:06.580 or they
00:28:07.620 haven't
00:28:07.980 contacted us,
00:28:08.980 they don't
00:28:09.400 seem to want
00:28:09.980 to know
00:28:10.280 anything more
00:28:10.840 about the
00:28:11.180 speakers, they
00:28:11.740 just want to
00:28:12.580 smear Drew
00:28:13.300 Barnes, and
00:28:14.600 you know,
00:28:15.880 smear us,
00:28:16.840 call us a
00:28:17.340 bunch of
00:28:17.660 climate deniers.
00:28:19.320 And really,
00:28:19.980 again, that's
00:28:20.560 the freedom of
00:28:21.140 speech issue,
00:28:22.220 and freedom of
00:28:22.960 scientific inquiry.
00:28:24.600 If you can't
00:28:25.440 have a
00:28:26.340 dissenting point
00:28:27.080 of view, and
00:28:27.680 discuss it in
00:28:28.480 the public
00:28:28.880 forum, then I
00:28:30.160 guess you live
00:28:30.700 in a
00:28:30.940 dictatorship, and
00:28:32.380 we should do
00:28:33.040 everything we
00:28:33.580 can to prevent
00:28:34.300 that from
00:28:34.720 happening.
00:28:36.140 Yeah, as
00:28:38.420 you mentioned
00:28:38.920 that, I was
00:28:39.480 just taking a
00:28:40.240 peek through
00:28:40.760 the article, and
00:28:42.380 yeah, they
00:28:43.260 don't mention
00:28:44.280 the credentials
00:28:45.600 of the two
00:28:46.860 speakers, but
00:28:48.280 they go on
00:28:51.540 to, you
00:28:52.160 know, insinuate
00:28:54.220 that this is
00:28:55.140 basically an
00:28:56.620 event of
00:28:57.360 non-sciencey
00:28:58.820 people, and
00:28:59.460 actually, even
00:29:00.160 in the chat
00:29:00.660 news today,
00:29:02.040 write-up of
00:29:03.960 the story, they
00:29:05.260 include tweets
00:29:06.120 from people
00:29:06.700 saying, what
00:29:07.200 a joke, what
00:29:08.620 exactly could a
00:29:10.140 bunch of
00:29:10.620 ideological
00:29:11.300 non-scientists
00:29:13.020 teach, discussing
00:29:14.620 we even have
00:29:15.180 politicians that
00:29:15.860 would consider
00:29:16.400 attending.
00:29:17.540 But that's
00:29:18.680 because no
00:29:19.880 one is telling
00:29:20.900 the truth about
00:29:21.680 who you have
00:29:22.360 speaking, because
00:29:23.040 if you tell the
00:29:23.600 truth about who
00:29:24.140 you have
00:29:24.420 speaking, then
00:29:25.180 oopsie-doodle,
00:29:26.680 maybe you are
00:29:27.500 science-minded, and
00:29:28.680 it's the other
00:29:29.200 side who isn't.
00:29:30.720 And I just think
00:29:31.600 it's so funny,
00:29:32.400 because your
00:29:33.800 event is called
00:29:35.640 Freedom of
00:29:36.700 Speech, No
00:29:37.340 Climate
00:29:37.760 Emergency, and
00:29:39.180 then they
00:29:39.540 don't want a
00:29:41.920 politician
00:29:42.360 attending and
00:29:44.000 exercising his
00:29:44.960 speech.
00:29:46.080 It's so crazy.
00:29:47.040 It's so crazy.
00:29:49.220 Now, one last
00:29:50.340 thing before I
00:29:50.860 let you go, because
00:29:51.440 I know you're
00:29:51.840 slightly under the
00:29:52.420 weather.
00:29:54.440 Go ahead.
00:29:56.580 Facebook.
00:29:57.680 Yes, Facebook.
00:29:58.760 Exactly.
00:29:59.500 So that's what I
00:30:00.120 wanted to talk
00:30:00.700 about, because
00:30:01.280 your Freedom of
00:30:03.720 Speech event
00:30:04.660 about scientific
00:30:05.940 inquiry is
00:30:07.640 currently being
00:30:08.480 censored by
00:30:09.060 Facebook.
00:30:09.900 Yeah.
00:30:10.820 It's so
00:30:11.280 perfect.
00:30:13.100 Yeah, it's
00:30:13.800 really crazy.
00:30:14.720 It's like, Facebook
00:30:15.600 appears to have
00:30:16.820 partnered with
00:30:17.640 this group called,
00:30:18.800 well, Poynter
00:30:19.640 Institute in the
00:30:20.600 States, claims to
00:30:21.460 be a bastion of
00:30:23.240 democracy and
00:30:24.060 freedom of speech
00:30:24.820 and freedom of
00:30:25.440 the press, and
00:30:26.040 that's what they're
00:30:26.540 defending, and
00:30:27.560 they run this
00:30:28.100 thing called the
00:30:28.680 International
00:30:29.200 Food Network, and
00:30:31.200 a subset of that
00:30:32.640 is called Climate
00:30:33.440 Feedback.
00:30:34.100 And so Climate
00:30:35.300 Feedback is a
00:30:36.220 collection of
00:30:36.880 climate scientists
00:30:37.640 who effectively are
00:30:38.780 protecting their
00:30:39.620 turf on the
00:30:40.500 climate emergency
00:30:41.240 thing.
00:30:42.180 So anytime there's
00:30:43.260 a dissenting view
00:30:44.300 out there, this
00:30:46.380 gets shuffled off to
00:30:47.480 Climate Feedback
00:30:48.320 for fact-checking.
00:30:49.660 And so the
00:30:50.160 International Fact
00:30:51.180 Checking Network
00:30:51.800 and Climate
00:30:53.020 Feedback become the
00:30:55.480 moral and scientific
00:30:57.040 authorities on what
00:30:59.920 can be said about
00:31:00.900 climate.
00:31:01.760 And once they make
00:31:02.920 a stand, then
00:31:04.800 Facebook takes
00:31:05.880 whatever they say
00:31:06.560 at face value and
00:31:07.860 will block and
00:31:09.240 demote and censor
00:31:11.560 anything that you
00:31:12.660 post that's
00:31:13.340 contrary to what
00:31:14.540 this little gaggle
00:31:15.740 of journos says.
00:31:17.540 And it's pretty bad.
00:31:22.240 They did it to us also
00:31:23.140 for the Australian
00:31:23.900 bushfires.
00:31:25.700 And, you know, we
00:31:28.100 had consultation with
00:31:29.440 a forestry expert.
00:31:31.380 Nope.
00:31:32.700 No, no.
00:31:33.600 These journos know.
00:31:35.520 And so it's really
00:31:38.220 depressing that Facebook,
00:31:40.220 which has such
00:31:40.960 incredible power, and
00:31:42.100 also Mark Zuckerberg,
00:31:43.300 just a couple of weeks
00:31:44.140 before that, had been
00:31:45.260 in a public forum, and
00:31:46.860 he'd said, well, we're
00:31:48.320 not going to censor as
00:31:49.380 much as we used to
00:31:50.360 because, you know, I
00:31:51.460 feel very uncomfortable.
00:31:52.920 Just a little.
00:31:55.220 So anyway, we've
00:31:56.500 written some extensive
00:31:57.520 rebuttals to this.
00:31:59.360 We did a little video
00:32:00.160 about it, so.
00:32:01.940 Now, just to wrap up,
00:32:04.780 let's get around the
00:32:05.820 Facebook censorship.
00:32:06.980 Tell people where they
00:32:07.840 can get tickets to your
00:32:08.820 event, and let me say
00:32:10.360 the food is great at
00:32:11.780 these things.
00:32:12.780 Go on an empty
00:32:13.800 stomach because there's
00:32:15.280 lots of food, lots of
00:32:17.220 open discussion, and
00:32:18.580 people at home, you're
00:32:20.200 going to learn a lot.
00:32:20.980 So I encourage you to
00:32:22.180 buy tickets to Michelle's
00:32:23.120 event.
00:32:24.200 Well, it's coming up
00:32:25.480 for April the 6th.
00:32:26.880 We are close to
00:32:28.240 selling out, but you
00:32:29.720 can go on to our main
00:32:31.120 website or Eventbrite.
00:32:33.280 It is held in Calgary,
00:32:34.860 so you'd have to look
00:32:35.860 under Calgary.
00:32:37.580 On our main website,
00:32:39.040 friendsofscience.org,
00:32:40.240 you will see the banner
00:32:42.320 poster for the event,
00:32:43.900 and right underneath
00:32:44.580 there's a link to
00:32:45.360 Eventbrite, so you can
00:32:46.720 buy tickets there.
00:32:48.280 And it's at the Red
00:32:49.420 and White Club in
00:32:50.560 Calgary at McMahon
00:32:51.660 Stadium, and it's a
00:32:53.520 very nice evening.
00:32:54.360 We let the speakers
00:32:55.120 have the floor for the
00:32:56.120 most of the time, but
00:32:57.400 we do have a lot of,
00:32:58.680 you know, networking.
00:32:59.680 At the break, we have
00:33:00.540 some tables with bling
00:33:01.940 and, you know, bits and
00:33:03.300 pieces that people, books,
00:33:05.040 yeah, DVDs.
00:33:06.240 So most people find it a
00:33:08.580 very convivial evening,
00:33:09.580 and we do allow people
00:33:11.080 to ask questions via
00:33:12.300 question card, so if you
00:33:14.720 want to stick around to
00:33:15.540 the end, then we get to
00:33:17.020 hear from people, the
00:33:19.180 speakers, so.
00:33:20.840 And how do people
00:33:22.180 support the work you do
00:33:24.180 at Friends of Science to
00:33:25.340 encourage open scientific
00:33:27.720 debate?
00:33:29.920 There's a button on our
00:33:31.580 website, friendsofscience.org,
00:33:33.800 called Donate, Join, so you
00:33:36.040 can donate or join or both.
00:33:38.060 You can become a member, and
00:33:39.740 then we'll send you our
00:33:40.740 bi-monthly newsletters.
00:33:43.780 One is called CliSci, and 0.84
00:33:45.160 one is called Extracts.
00:33:47.960 One is a roundup of
00:33:49.360 scientific material, and the
00:33:50.640 other more on the global
00:33:53.900 political IPCC events and
00:33:56.700 such like.
00:33:58.120 So join us.
00:34:01.120 Donate.
00:34:02.320 Or just share our stuff, you
00:34:04.920 know, lots of people maybe
00:34:05.920 don't have the money.
00:34:07.200 You can get on Twitter,
00:34:08.260 Facebook, or YouTube,
00:34:10.660 LinkedIn, you know, and
00:34:12.400 have a chat.
00:34:13.520 Yes.
00:34:13.880 And say what you think.
00:34:14.720 We want to hear it.
00:34:15.920 We only block people who are 0.99
00:34:17.780 very disrespectful or use
00:34:19.640 foul language, so.
00:34:21.380 Yeah.
00:34:21.780 That's fair.
00:34:22.600 Or ask repeated questions
00:34:24.080 about where our funding
00:34:25.060 comes from.
00:34:27.320 Comes from people like me.
00:34:29.380 It does, actually.
00:34:31.080 That's exactly right.
00:34:31.940 Michelle, thank you so
00:34:34.440 much for coming on the
00:34:35.260 show.
00:34:35.640 I will probably see you
00:34:37.120 April 6th.
00:34:38.520 Yay.
00:34:39.400 Yeah.
00:34:39.760 And we'll have you back on
00:34:41.160 again very soon.
00:34:42.320 Thank you so much, Sheila.
00:34:43.720 Okay.
00:34:44.260 All the best.
00:34:45.400 Bye, Michelle.
00:34:46.420 Bye-bye.
00:34:46.780 When the federal
00:34:55.220 liberals' election cops
00:34:57.060 started hassling Ezra for
00:34:58.720 writing a book that hurt
00:34:59.780 Justin Trudeau's feelings,
00:35:01.960 Ezra's book went to number
00:35:03.020 one overnight, five months
00:35:05.500 after its release, because
00:35:06.960 people don't like censorship.
00:35:08.720 Not only is there a morbid
00:35:10.200 curiosity about wanting to
00:35:11.680 see things that people don't
00:35:13.340 want you to see, but there's
00:35:14.880 also a natural defiance
00:35:16.600 happening, especially from
00:35:17.980 conservatives, when some
00:35:19.420 elite authoritarian do-good
00:35:21.200 or somewhere in an office
00:35:22.620 cubicle thinks that they
00:35:23.960 know what's best for you.
00:35:26.420 What you should eat, what
00:35:27.840 you should read, how you
00:35:29.380 should dress, how you
00:35:30.760 should talk, what you
00:35:31.760 should watch, and what news
00:35:33.160 you should be allowed to
00:35:34.120 consume.
00:35:35.200 Left-wing journalists and
00:35:36.480 big tech elites have
00:35:37.460 appointed themselves the
00:35:38.860 gatekeepers of all
00:35:40.440 acceptable opinions.
00:35:42.460 And I'm very happy to see
00:35:43.760 organizations like Friends of
00:35:45.220 Science make the connection
00:35:46.620 between climate change and
00:35:48.560 free speech, and how these
00:35:50.460 two issues are going to be
00:35:52.400 the key ways that the
00:35:53.800 powerful left will control
00:35:55.240 our lives, if we let them.
00:35:58.060 Well, everybody, that's the
00:35:59.180 show for tonight.
00:35:59.780 Thank you so much for
00:36:00.700 tuning in.
00:36:01.280 I'll see everybody back here
00:36:02.480 in the same time, in the
00:36:03.980 same place next week.
00:36:05.400 And remember, don't let the
00:36:07.080 government tell you that
00:36:08.020 you've had too much to think.
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