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00:02:00.380 The Planet of the Humans, David Suzuki, Elizabeth May and Trudeau's new values test for large

00:02:21.780 employers wanting government help. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:02:30.380 You know I fully recognize I've been talking a lot about Michael Moore's new movie Planet of the

00:02:48.760 Humans but I've had no shortage of really great guests with unique perspectives who want to come

00:02:55.460 on my show and talk about that movie. It's a documentary made very clearly through the

00:03:00.780 anti-capitalist lens that we know Michael Moore creates his movies through. But in amongst Moore's

00:03:07.100 anti-capitalist, anti-human, anti-fossil fuel agenda is some harsh truth about the dirty nature of green

00:03:14.180 energy that the green left cannot handle and doesn't want you to know about green energy.

00:03:19.660 Now far from Hollywood however in a city just as fake and frivolous that's right Ottawa left-wing

00:03:27.800 politicians have an all-out war on the oil and gas industry. Liz May has declared oil dead but the 0.66

00:03:33.380 Green Party leader has one of the longest commutes in the House of Commons made possible of course

00:03:39.620 by fossil fuels. Trudeau on the other hand is blackmailing companies with a climate change condition

00:03:45.460 added into the bailout for large employers seeking government help to preserve Canadian jobs during

00:03:51.580 the COVID-19 lockdown. And of course over at CBC David Suzuki is looking at the lockdown as some

00:03:58.240 sort of ghoulish opportunity to rewrite the entire world into a green way. Translation unsustainable

00:04:07.740 way. Joining me tonight to talk about all these issues is Tom Harris from the International Climate

00:04:13.280 Science Coalition in an interview we recorded yesterday afternoon.

00:04:32.000 Joining me now from his home in Ottawa is Tom Harris from the International Climate Science Coalition.

00:04:38.360 And Tom like you I cannot get enough of Michael Moore's new documentary Planet of the Humans.

00:04:47.560 I don't know it's it's got everything it's got all the things that we've been talking about from a

00:04:54.040 climate realism perspective and a and a skeptical eye at green energy and and how green energy is really

00:05:00.560 just sort of a fraud. But also the screeching and harping of the left it it's pleasing me a lot

00:05:06.740 that this criticism is coming from one of their own. But you have really done an in-depth examination

00:05:12.920 of Michael Moore's new movie. And so I thought I'd have you on to talk about it. So welcome to the show.

00:05:19.760 Yeah. Yeah. It's great to be on Sheila. Yeah that film is is truly amazing and I do encourage people to

00:05:26.060 watch it. I mean it makes incredibly good points like you just said. But you know it is fundamentally

00:05:31.680 flawed in three ways. First of all he thinks that we are causing dangerous climate change. Secondly he

00:05:37.900 thinks that fossil fuels are bad. And thirdly he thinks that capitalism is the root of all evil when

00:05:44.360 it comes to environmental degradation. But you know I'd like to describe to you how he's both right and

00:05:50.020 wrong with an analogy. Great. Let's pretend let's pretend we go back to medieval times and there was a town that

00:05:56.700 believed in dragons. And they thought their village was being threatened by dragons. And it turned out

00:06:02.520 that the mayor of the town was a manufacturer of toothpicks. So he convinced the people that they could

00:06:09.480 defend themselves against the dragons by using toothpicks. Well like in the Emperor's New Clothes

00:06:15.160 a child points out well you can't kill a dragon with a toothpick. That's ridiculous. And so Michael Moore is 0.98

00:06:21.620 very much like the child in this movie. He's right that you can't kill dragons. In this case you can't

00:06:26.380 stop climate change with wind and solar power. It's ridiculous. But he believes that we are 0.82

00:06:32.920 actually being invaded by dragons. He thinks that there is dangerous climate change. So it's really

00:06:38.620 interesting. It's a mixed message. You know the movie is wonderful. It's done. Production is

00:06:44.100 incredible. I mean you know you're not bored even for a second. Even though it's a long film. It's an hour

00:06:49.560 in 40 minutes. But the bottom line is that he shows that in fact many of the myths of the green

00:06:56.360 energy deal are actually ridiculous. You know for example it's okay to take the top off a mountain

00:07:03.100 to put up wind killing bird turbines. But you can't do it for coal. You know and so he says well

00:07:10.440 these kinds of things are ludicrous. And he asked some of the people that he interviews well what's going

00:07:15.500 on here. And they say point blank the green energy advocates are lying. So you know it's a civil war

00:07:23.600 that's going to erupt. In fact has already started within the green movement. And hooray you know let

00:07:29.540 them fight each other. It'll make them weaker overall. Yeah it's funny that Michael Moore is making a lot of

00:07:35.660 the points that Patrick Moore has made all along. That you know what is being presented to us as green.

00:07:42.080 And you use a great example of the top of the the mountain being chopped off for wind turbines.

00:07:47.800 And everybody says yes green energy is going to lead the way to the future. And if a coal mine wants

00:07:52.880 to do that same thing and then reclaim the coal mine after. Everybody says oh that's damaging to the

00:07:59.320 environment. Look what you've done to that mountain. It can never be replaced. It's very very strange.

00:08:05.620 But that was my takeaway from the movie too is this is still Michael Moore being the general Michael

00:08:15.200 Moore anti-capitalist that he seems to be in all of his movies. He's just recognizing that green 0.99

00:08:23.760 capitalism is as crooked as all the other crony capitalism he points out in some of his other

00:08:31.460 movies. Yeah. You know so it's still Michael Moore being Michael Moore and for a capitalist he's sure

00:08:39.920 figured out that conservatives are willing to pay and support someone who will tell us exactly what

00:08:47.320 we've been screaming at the clouds all along. That green energy is a fraud. That you know that it requires

00:08:54.920 fossil fuel backup and that it can never support life as we know it. Yeah exactly. And he doesn't seem

00:09:02.760 to understand that if you actually look at other forms of government other than capitalism and free

00:09:08.140 market enterprise what you find is that socialism is far worse for the environment. When the Soviet 0.79

00:09:14.160 Union collapsed we saw incredible environmental degradation. You know the solution is not to reduce

00:09:20.080 the number of people which is what he's talking about indirectly. It's a kind of Malthusian approach.

00:09:25.040 What the real solution is to make our humanity more wealthy. Because right now almost a billion

00:09:31.840 people in the world do not have access to electricity. Okay now that is a real crime against humanity quite

00:09:38.180 frankly because we have plenty of energy. All kinds of energy. We have enough coal for centuries. We have

00:09:43.620 natural gas through fracking for centuries. You know so keeping people poor means they don't really care

00:09:49.860 about the environment. And you remember in our past discussions we talked about the Kuznets curve

00:09:54.500 where at first as a society develops the environmental degradation increases. You get to a certain point

00:10:01.320 where people's basic needs are satisfied then they care about the environment and the environmental

00:10:06.620 degradation goes down. So we want people to be wealthy because that's when they care about the environment.

00:10:13.300 Yeah that was a strange point that Michael Moore did make in that movie that you know that he contends

00:10:20.760 there should be fewer people on the surface of the earth because some people live in poverty some people

00:10:27.760 live in energy poverty. So you know for me and for you and let me put words in your mouth here we just want

00:10:37.380 those people to have energy. I want them to exist on the face of the earth. I want them to have access

00:10:42.580 to cheap affordable energy. For Michael Moore on the flip side for him it's not getting them access to

00:10:48.400 clean affordable energy. For him it's that those people just shouldn't really exist. Yeah exactly and

00:10:54.220 in fact in many ways you know Africa has access it should have access to coal, natural gas, oil but

00:11:01.000 environmentalists want Africans to develop with energy sources that we can't afford. Things like wind and

00:11:06.900 solar power and you know the whole concept that fossil fuels is bad which unfortunately our federal

00:11:12.040 government and some provincial governments actually think is completely backwards. I mean fossil fuels

00:11:18.680 have been in many ways the salvation of civilization and I'd like to read you a quick quote here from

00:11:24.480 Dr. Roger Besdek okay from the management information services. He was speaking he was a keynote speaker

00:11:30.560 extremely good at the America First Energy Conference in Houston in November 2017. He said

00:11:36.720 what has fossil fuels done for us recently? They are the foundation of our current economy. They

00:11:43.360 created and sustained the modern world. They permit the current high quality of life we all enjoy. Over

00:11:50.340 the past two centuries life expectancy has more than doubled. Population increased eightfold. Real incomes

00:11:57.500 have increased worldwide more than elevenfold. So thank goodness for fossil fuels they've been an incredible

00:12:04.280 boon and also you know they've actually saved the environment in many ways because England was on the

00:12:10.020 verge of having no forests at all because they were cutting all their trees down for building ships and

00:12:15.000 for fuel and all sorts of things and of course the coal revolution came along and once we learned how to

00:12:20.180 control the pollution from coal coal has become an excellent energy source. You know that's a great point

00:12:26.300 that you made about Africa and I was sort of writing it down as you went. I know a lot of Canadian expats who've

00:12:31.880 spent a lot of time working in the oil fields in Africa because that's a place that can utilize their

00:12:37.760 expertise because there's not a lot happening in the Canadian oil patch right now and the environmental

00:12:44.360 movement and you see this all the time at the UN climate change conferences. They want the people in Africa to go from 1.00

00:12:52.900 digging a well by hand digging a well by hand and walking several kilometers every single day

00:12:58.460 to a well to carry water on a bucket home on their head. They want them to skip over the part where

00:13:06.180 a well is dug using fossil fuels and then you just drive your car to the well and drive home and it takes five

00:13:11.940 minutes to digging a well somehow with solar energy and then using a renewable green energy car

00:13:21.840 in Africa where poverty is high to get to the well to bring the water home. Like they want to skip over 1.00

00:13:28.840 that whole easy affordable step right in the middle to this grandiose scheme and they really think that

00:13:36.160 this is a feasible idea for Africa that is sitting on oil. It's crazy. Yeah yeah it's true and they also 1.00

00:13:44.000 have to realize that you know the lithium-ion batteries that are used to power these electric cars that are

00:13:49.740 going to supposedly save us. Where do you think they get the lithium? They get it from China with horrible 0.99

00:13:54.900 environmental conditions and Africa with child labor. You know I mean it's it's really incredible 1.00

00:14:00.400 to think that you know so many children in Africa live and die in lithium mines and the rare earth elements

00:14:07.440 that are used in wind turbines. Where do they come from? Well China is the major supplier which has terrible 0.94

00:14:13.300 environmental conditions. So yeah the whole thing is ludicrous to think that somehow electric cars with lithium

00:14:19.540 batteries and how do you charge the batteries? It's fossil fuels again you know or nuclear. So yeah the

00:14:26.400 whole thing it doesn't make any sense and that is the way that Michael Moore's film has made a huge

00:14:31.240 contribution. Just staying on Michael Moore's film for a second because the screeching of the left

00:14:37.040 even though the movie advocates ideas that are you know still popular on the left like anti-capitalism and

00:14:44.980 those sorts of things and eugenics quite frankly. Yeah. He he's on the receiving end of some pretty

00:14:54.320 serious and high profile calls to have his movie censored. Yeah. On the flip side you know they're and

00:15:03.100 they're saying we need to censor this movie because it is full of dangerous misinformation.

00:15:06.960 Okay great. The film's full of dangerous correct information. Dangerous if you're a supporter of

00:15:14.420 wind and solar because of course it talks about you know the impact on the environment the millions of

00:15:20.400 birds that are killed all over the world by these things. Bats as well you know we spoke about that

00:15:25.020 in Spain. Yeah we sure did and you know it's funny that um instead of creating a movie to argue for the

00:15:32.280 other side which the left I mean the left owns Hollywood. If you want to produce a movie that

00:15:37.020 tells the tale of green energy and shows it in a glowing light you have a dozen uh producers a dozen

00:15:44.320 directors and all the actors in Hollywood save for as many as I can count on a hand lining up to star

00:15:51.520 in your movie to do voiceovers to do whatever it'll be premiered to much fanfare at any film festival

00:15:59.440 go and tell the story don't advocate for censorship. I mean yeah let's talk about um an inconvenient

00:16:07.000 truth full you want to talk about full of misinformation that's the one because now looking

00:16:11.480 back a couple decades later we can see all the all the things that didn't unfold but I don't want it

00:16:16.200 censored. I would like everybody to see it because I want everybody to see just how wrong um that movie

00:16:22.320 is and yeah it's right I mean instead of dealing with the issues and arguing the ideas uh censorship

00:16:30.500 is the immediate de facto response from the left on any idea they disagree with and now climate change

00:16:37.340 is the new battleground for free speech. Yeah it's really strange you know historically the left always

00:16:42.880 prided themselves on being tolerant of alternative points of view and in fact if you go back to Europe

00:16:48.780 at the time when Einstein was talking about his first theory of relativity it was the German

00:16:53.620 conservatives who were afraid that it would threaten their worldview and the German liberals

00:16:58.300 were supporting him and wanted him to be able to speak out but things have switched and climate change is

00:17:03.300 just one of many examples where the left are the worst of the censors you know I tried to post on the

00:17:10.000 CBC website for example some questions and a link to my video in our article about the COVID thing

00:17:15.980 about the fact that they're not doing random testing so they really don't have any idea how

00:17:20.400 many people across Canada are carrying it but have no symptoms uh and and within minutes the censor took

00:17:25.960 my comment right off now happily I saved it in both cases and I sent it to the CBC audience relations and

00:17:32.440 I said this fulfills all of your submission guidelines you know there's no swearing there's nothing nothing

00:17:38.440 nasty going on you say you accept external links but you have deleted it why is that and all audience

00:17:44.940 relations would say is it was appropriate for your submission to be deleted and I said well how

00:17:52.080 and no answer you know so yeah the censorship on the left has become really incredible um just moving

00:18:00.600 along now that you've brought up CBC because I wanted to ask you about um one of CBC's um I guess

00:18:07.640 he's a flagship show star um he's been around I guess for about four decades I've written a book on him

00:18:14.880 that became a bestseller um David Suzuki sees the coronavirus as an opportunity to um use it as a

00:18:24.160 template to overlay um everything in the battle against climate change and it's funny because when

00:18:33.600 you look at the world right now that shut down people are stuck in their houses they can't travel

00:18:38.040 nobody can work the um oil industry is in collapse right now um this is the green future they promised

00:18:45.380 us but it doesn't quite look the way that everybody thought it would there's no renaissance in the

00:18:52.440 economy because of green energy well that's right in fact you hear environmentalists cheering Elizabeth May

00:18:58.160 saying oil is dead you know well okay Elizabeth and who's going to pay your salary you know I mean

00:19:03.700 the bottom line is if you cut off your source of income and you know fossil fuels are one of the

00:19:08.340 absolute most important sources of income for Canada like how are you going to run the country how are you

00:19:13.580 going to have all these social programs you know and and Suzuki and companies seem to totally ignore

00:19:19.040 the fact that wind turbines are really bad for people too and you know there's a really interesting

00:19:24.480 quote if I can read it to you it's uh actually supporting what Michael Mann says indirectly

00:19:29.440 Sherry Lang who's the CEO of the North American platform against wind power here's what she writes

00:19:35.480 more than just audible sound grinding whomping blade passing whooshes an ever-present hum industrial

00:19:43.720 wind turbines have a silent below audible impact it's not like a day contamination harm at work where

00:19:50.860 people can go home at night for relief with industrial wind projects literally engulfing

00:19:56.100 homes and rural areas there is little or no escape so the bottom line is that this is hurting not the

00:20:02.820 rich people because you can be sure it doesn't they don't get 60-story wind turbines put beside

00:20:07.620 uh you know Trudeau's home but it's the poorer people or the average people who have to put up with

00:20:13.760 these for the sake of what uh it's really virtue signaling because the amount of energy you save

00:20:19.600 is like none because you have to as you say have backup plants it kills millions of birds and bats

00:20:25.720 uh and it makes life miserable for the people that live nearby I mean imagine trying to sell your house

00:20:31.300 and you've got like in Shelley Correa's case you have a 60-story wind turbine 500 meters from your house

00:20:37.620 oh well we don't really notice that no one's gonna buy your house so yeah it's it's nuts and as I say

00:20:44.840 the civil war that's now erupting is extremely good uh for people who actually support sensible

00:20:51.700 environmental protection yeah I remember there was a sun news documentary um before sun news went

00:20:59.080 off the air and it was called I believe downwind and it uh pointed out that there seemed to be some

00:21:07.280 health implications for people who live near or under these wind turbines and a lot of it has to do with

00:21:13.020 the pressure created by these wind turbines and uh that animals are responsive to them and it can cause

00:21:21.060 uh problems with farm animals and farm production being close to these wind turbines and that seems

00:21:27.460 to be where they put them is in valuable arable farmland well yeah and it's really sad because

00:21:32.740 Shelley moved out to West Lincoln Ontario which is almost like Andy of Mayberry's town you know I mean

00:21:38.160 it's a very very quiet place because her boy needed that kind of quiet and uh Kathleen Wynne promised

00:21:45.020 they wouldn't be putting turbines in close to her home and they did anyways you know and and the thing

00:21:50.240 is I mean just like Michael Moore says these things use thousands of tons of concrete and of course

00:21:56.520 concrete if you're concerned about co2 which is which I'm not because I don't think we're actually

00:22:01.100 causing a climate crisis co2 of course is plant food but if you were concerned the last thing you

00:22:07.660 want to do is build massive wind turbines with steel you have to process exotic materials um rare earth

00:22:14.760 elements and tons and tons of concrete at the base not only that of course as you said earlier you have

00:22:20.000 to clear the whole area so I mean I can't think of anything less environmentally friendly and as poor

00:22:25.500 people like Shelley Correa have found yeah the governments in the past didn't keep their promises I think

00:22:30.960 Ford should be taking these down quite frankly yes I do too now last thing I want to talk to you

00:22:36.960 about well not quite last thing but um I wanted to talk to you about how Trudeau has shoehorned another

00:22:44.060 values test into yet another bailout he hammered a values test into the summer jobs grant for some

00:22:50.540 reason you had to believe in transgenderism to uh run a summer camp he did the same thing with the

00:22:56.600 small business bailout they have to make a profession of not discriminating on any number of things

00:23:02.800 before they can apply for a small business bailout now the big businesses um have to uh have some sort

00:23:11.620 of climate plan before they can apply for the big business bailout for large job creators and I promise you

00:23:20.540 this it's not going to affect a single uh Quebec engineering firm or concrete plant this is directly

00:23:29.760 designed to make sure that Alberta oil companies don't get access to any federal dollars yeah they're

00:23:35.940 killing the goose that's laying the golden egg for Canada's programs and social you know all across

00:23:41.740 the board I mean it's really crazy I mean the bottom line is we want society to come back as strongly

00:23:46.980 as possible with the most reliable and dependable and least expensive energy sources wind and solar

00:23:52.580 worrying about climate change you know which of course happens naturally all the time and Canada's

00:23:59.360 impact you know this is the thing that is truly uh shows that it's all virtue signaling on the part of

00:24:04.380 Trudeau Canada's impact to overall human carbon dioxide emissions is something in the neighborhood of

00:24:10.320 1.6 percent of the world okay so if it was true that we had a climate crisis that was caused by

00:24:16.600 CO2 emissions our CO2 emissions have virtually zero impact anyways and you know it's kind of like if

00:24:23.860 you were sitting on a lifeboat an inflatable life raft and somebody was ripping it apart with a chainsaw

00:24:29.700 and you were using a pin and everybody's yelling at you stop destroying the lifeboat you know so even if

00:24:36.900 you think that CO2 is a serious problem it's ludicrous for Canada to just virtue signal cripple our

00:24:43.420 industries when countries like China and India are paying far far more and they're not going to

00:24:48.720 reduce anytime soon so yeah don't don't tie up these things together I mean we want the least expensive

00:24:55.740 most affordable uh best energy sources to help us get back on our feet and it's going to be very hard

00:25:01.340 to get back on our feet the last thing we need to do is cripple ourselves with inefficient and really

00:25:06.940 quite stupid energy sources or a climate plan oh come on you know 0.6 degrees or something oh sorry 0.86

00:25:14.440 one degree celsius since 1880 has been the rise and you sort of say that's a climate crisis come on 0.99

00:25:21.860 trudeau get off that well yeah and I think you guys had snow in Ontario this past week we had snow here

00:25:28.660 the other day I mean it it here's the thing uh the U.S. is embracing fossil fuels they are embracing

00:25:36.880 manufacturing I think they're going to see a renaissance in American manufacturing because

00:25:41.460 Trump is bringing manufacturing back to the United States and sort of disengaging with Chinese

00:25:47.560 manufacturing Canada's doing the opposite yeah thank goodness but Canada's doing the opposite and I

00:25:53.440 think it's going to cripple us um at the end of this uh yeah yeah and you know China in many ways 0.93

00:25:59.540 is the beneficiary of the climate scare yes because if in fact um first of all they have no limits under

00:26:06.180 the Paris agreement till 2030 and even after that there's a clause in the underlying treaty called the

00:26:11.940 framework convention and climate change that says that developing countries and that includes China

00:26:16.640 believe it or not they don't have to actually I mean their first and overriding priority

00:26:21.520 is poverty alleviation development so you can be sure after 2030 they're going to grow their

00:26:27.340 greenhouse gas emissions to heck with the climate because they are focused on sensible objectives

00:26:33.120 of poverty alleviation development and since their major electricity source about 80 percent is coal

00:26:38.700 you're going to see lots and lots of coal so you know the idea that somehow Canada is going to lead

00:26:44.180 the world well the world's not following Canada I mean stop sacrificing your own economy and your own

00:26:50.140 people to something that first of all makes no sense scientifically but secondly even if it did

00:26:55.420 the rest of the world's not going to follow I mean wake up well you know Tom are you saying that China 0.98

00:27:02.620 would game the system to their own benefit that's outrageous uh oh wow yeah of course they are

00:27:09.580 I know that they'd lie um Tom where can people find um the work that you do I know that you uh

00:27:17.740 frequently write articles as things on the client climate science front come on your radar and more

00:27:24.700 importantly how can they support the work that you do because you're one of a handful a very small

00:27:30.380 handful of people in Canada willing to do this kind of work yeah sure people should go to our website which

00:27:36.940 is climate science international dot org and there's a little donate button and we get everything

00:27:42.780 from ten dollars to a thousand dollars to five dollars and it you know as soon as you give us any

00:27:48.860 donation at all we keep you up to date on all of our publishings and uh you know we welcome anybody to

00:27:54.540 support us we're not like the rebel we're not supported by government you can be sure of that

00:27:59.500 because they would not support us if well because they see what we do we tell the truth and we say when

00:28:05.340 the government's miles off base which they are certainly on this covid climate recovery it's

00:28:11.580 ridiculous now you also have a podcast you better plug your podcast oh right it's exploratory journeys

00:28:17.740 and in fact the first entry right now on our home page climate science international dot org is an

00:28:23.420 interview I had with Ian Clark who's a professor at Ottawa U and once you click into that interview you

00:28:28.540 can see all of our podcasts and you know they're quite fun actually yeah they're great they're informative

00:28:34.220 and uh I think you have a very soothing voice and I listen to you on the treadmill uh okay thank you

00:28:40.460 and I listen to you on my treadmill too great Tom thanks so much for coming on the show we'll have

00:28:45.420 you back on again very very soon because I feel like things are going to get real crazy out there

00:28:52.540 um especially on the climate change front as we come out of the coronavirus um we're going to move

00:28:57.660 from one crisis to the next I think oh geez yeah well thanks Sheila thanks Tom

00:29:10.860 I suppose one of the reasons that I cannot stop talking about Michael Moore's documentary

00:29:16.060 is because the left doesn't want me to talk about it they don't want me to see it they don't want you

00:29:21.660 to see it they don't want the information inside that documentary out into the rest of the world

00:29:27.500 they don't want hearts and minds on their side of the aisle being changed by someone from their side

00:29:35.020 of the aisle who is presenting information in a way that is designed for them to digest Michael Moore just

00:29:43.820 might nuke their movement and uh I couldn't be happier about it the more people tell me not to

00:29:50.460 say and do things the more I'm inclined to do them that's just my nature um and I think it's sort of a

00:29:56.860 conservative thing we believe in freedom not compliance for the sake of compliance well everybody

00:30:04.300 that's the show for tonight thank you so much for tuning in I'll see everybody back here in the same

00:30:08.540 time in the same place next week and remember don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think

00:30:20.460 kind of to think about it

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Rebel News Podcast - May 21, 2020

How Florida beat New York in the battle against COVID-19 (GUEST： Alex Newman)

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