Rebel News Podcast - Justin Trudeau makes bashing western Canada part of his reelection plan

00:00:00.000 Folks, I want to show you the letter from six Canadian premiers,

00:00:06.420 including the premier of the Northwest Territories, a great guy named Bob McLeod,

00:00:10.460 to Justin Trudeau.

00:00:11.260 I want to read to you a few paragraphs from it.

00:00:12.700 It's a good letter.

00:00:13.880 And I want to show you Trudeau's response to it.

00:00:16.720 And I want to answer the question, is Western separatism a real thing?

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00:01:09.700 Tonight, Justin Trudeau plans to make bashing Western Canada part of his re-election plan.

00:01:15.280 It's June 13th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:17.580 Hey, did you see the letter from six premiers, five provincial premiers, and Bob McLeod,

00:01:44.260 the premier of the Northwest Territories, he's one of my favorite guys, by the way,

00:01:48.180 pro-development, solid guy, aboriginal too, by the way.

00:01:53.200 With Justin Trudeau sacking Jody Wilson-Raybould, I think it's fair to say that he's the most

00:01:58.660 prominent elected aboriginal leader in Canada, the most senior probably.

00:02:04.540 So you'd think we'd hear a lot more about him, except for what I just mentioned.

00:02:07.760 He's pro-development, anti-carbon tax, pro-resources.

00:02:10.700 So the media, which normally searches, goes an extra mile for an aboriginal angle on anything,

00:02:17.340 in the name of affirmative action or whatever, well, they deliberately unreport anything Premier

00:02:23.860 McLeod does, because he's not on their left-wing narrative.

00:02:26.920 He loves oil and gas and mining.

00:02:28.860 Oh, do they hate him now even more for writing a mean letter to the precious, Justin Trudeau.

00:02:35.620 Here's a letter.

00:02:36.240 I'll read some of it to you.

00:02:37.280 I like the first few lines.

00:02:38.340 We are writing on behalf of the governments of Ontario, New Brunswick, Manitoba, Saskatchewan,

00:02:44.500 and Alberta, and the Northwest Territories.

00:02:47.220 Collectively, our five provinces and territory represent 59% of the Canadian population and

00:02:52.740 63% of Canada's GDP.

00:02:55.640 We are central to Canada's economy and prosperity, and it is of the utmost importance that you consider

00:03:01.640 our concerns with Bills C-69 and C-48.

00:03:05.020 I wonder what percentage of the geography they are, too, and that's relevant because those

00:03:09.840 laws limit resource development.

00:03:12.880 Now, in case you don't know, by their parliamentary numbers, Bill C-69 is the absurd bill championed

00:03:21.020 by the absurd Catherine McKenna.

00:03:22.520 It's a bill that would kill any large industrial project in Canada, but it would let foreign imports 1.00

00:03:27.780 from China or OPEC come into Canada unregulated.

00:03:31.600 Example, it would force any oil and gas or mining project in Canada to go through a carbon

00:03:36.920 analysis, but not imports of foreign oil from Saudi Arabia to Canada.

00:03:44.260 Yeah, riddle me that.

00:03:45.220 Oh, and it gets worse.

00:03:47.180 I've shown this to you before. 0.68

00:03:48.500 I never want to stop showing this because I want to show you how crazy they are.

00:03:52.380 Here's Catherine McKenna, possibly the worst salesman in the history of salesmen. 0.85

00:03:59.020 Take a look.

00:04:00.320 Project decisions will be based on science, evidence, and Indigenous traditional knowledge.

00:04:06.080 We're also taking a bigger picture look at the potential impacts of a proposed project.

00:04:10.760 Instead of just looking at the environmental impacts, we'll look at how a project could affect

00:04:15.080 our communities and health, jobs and the economy over the long term, and we'll also do a gender-based

00:04:21.140 analysis.

00:04:23.020 Yeah.

00:04:23.860 Yikes.

00:04:24.740 Now, I know I've shown you this next clip before once or twice, too, but seriously, when even 1.00

00:04:28.760 Dawn Martin of CTV thinks you're nuts, you know you're nuts. 0.99

00:04:34.140 Gender impact? 0.99

00:04:34.900 How does that fit into a pipeline approval process?

00:04:36.820 So I'm really glad you asked that because I think people are like, well, what is this gender

00:04:40.120 thing?

00:04:40.380 Well, imagine that you have a huge number of people going to a remote community, many

00:04:47.820 men.

00:04:48.320 What is the impact on the community?

00:04:50.140 What is the impact on women in the community? 1.00

00:04:52.140 And actually, once again, smart proponents understand this.

00:04:54.900 So they're going to put measures in place.

00:04:56.400 That's all it is.

00:04:57.160 It's just taking a smart approach to thinking about, okay, what's going to be the impact of

00:05:01.220 a major development in a particular area?

00:05:03.240 Yeah, guys, Catherine McKenna is here to say that all the smart companies are really doing

00:05:10.820 gender analysis for their factories because no one knows smart companies like Catherine 1.00

00:05:16.320 McKenna, veteran business leader and job creator.

00:05:19.200 What a laugh.

00:05:20.420 So that's Bill C-69.

00:05:21.620 Bill C-48 is the tanker ban off the north coast of BC, except it's not really a tanker

00:05:26.240 ban, is it?

00:05:27.040 It just bans the export of Alberta oil on tankers from the north coast of BC.

00:05:31.420 There are US oil tankers going up and down the BC coast with oil from Alaska and other

00:05:36.820 tankers too.

00:05:37.440 And of course, there's no tanker ban on Canada's east coast to stop Saudi tankers bringing OPEC

00:05:42.720 oil to east coast.

00:05:44.420 Canada is there.

00:05:45.320 Anyways, let me read a little bit more of the premier's letter.

00:05:47.600 Let me give you one full minute of it.

00:05:49.440 Here, let me read some.

00:05:51.320 Canadians across the country are unified in their concern about the economic impacts of

00:05:55.980 the legislation such as it was proposed by the House of Commons.

00:05:58.880 In this form, the damage it would do to the economy, jobs, and investment will echo from

00:06:04.000 one coast to the other.

00:06:05.460 Provincial and territorial jurisdiction must be respected.

00:06:08.420 Provinces and territories have clear and sole jurisdiction over the development of their

00:06:12.720 non-renewable natural resources, forestry resources, and the generation and production

00:06:17.720 of electricity.

00:06:19.280 Bill C-69 upsets the balance struck by the constitutional division of powers by ignoring the exclusive

00:06:25.000 provincial powers over projects relating to these resources.

00:06:28.860 The federal government must recognize the exclusive role provinces and territories have

00:06:33.340 over the management of our non-renewable natural resource development or risk creating a

00:06:38.180 constitutional crisis.

00:06:41.000 My only quibble is I think it's a little bit overstated to say that all Canadians are united

00:06:45.940 in their concern about the economic impacts here. 0.82

00:06:48.540 The makers of Canada are concerned, but not the takers, which is pretty dumb given that

00:06:55.460 there's no wealth, if there's no wealth created by the makers, then there's no wealth to be

00:07:00.080 redistributed by the takers.

00:07:02.440 But there's a reason why the fable about the man who killed the golden goose that laid the

00:07:07.140 golden eggs, that's a classic because it's human nature.

00:07:09.980 Maybe one of the reasons why the takers are the takers is because they're not quite so good

00:07:13.320 about planning and all that stuff.

00:07:15.480 So that's my only quibble with this letter.

00:07:16.720 There are still parts of Canada, especially in the media, in academia, in politics, in lobby

00:07:22.020 groups, who absolutely do want to destroy Canada's resource sector, which is precisely

00:07:26.880 why they support these bills, is precisely why they were written this way.

00:07:30.480 And Trudeau's inner circle, his key ministers like McKenna, their chiefs of staff, his key

00:07:35.380 advisors, they were actually, in some cases, the senior leaders in the Rockefeller Brothers

00:07:40.860 Fund campaign to fight the oil sands.

00:07:44.180 This is a slide from their campaign plan, as you know, literally the same people who

00:07:48.900 were part of this campaign against the oil sands are now chiefs of staff running Canada's

00:07:52.660 energy ministry, running McKenna's environment ministry, have senior policy positions in Trudeau's

00:07:58.420 office.

00:07:59.760 So yeah, there are definitely pockets of Canadians who hate Canadian oil and gas and mining and

00:08:04.700 industry.

00:08:05.060 But no one in the real world, no one who can't just, you know, get a grant from Trudeau or McKenna.

00:08:09.440 Canada, we can't all get $12 million for free fridges, you know, some of us have to

00:08:13.680 work, you know.

00:08:14.240 And Canada is blessed with oil and gas and minerals, so that's as good a place to work

00:08:18.060 as any.

00:08:18.740 But it will be impossible under C-69.

00:08:21.400 The law doesn't even have to be in place for it to do its damage.

00:08:24.300 As I told you a few months ago, the National Energy Board recorded the first decline in

00:08:29.500 Canadian oil production in about a decade.

00:08:31.380 Even though global demand for oil and gas has never been higher and is expected to continue

00:08:37.000 to climb, Canada is sitting on the world's third largest reserves of oil in the world.

00:08:42.940 And we actually have half of all the world's accessible oil, which is what I mean, oil that's

00:08:48.920 open for drilling by any company that's not commanded by some tyrant or king or dictator.

00:08:53.840 But our production is shrinking.

00:08:56.240 And please don't tell me it's because of oil prices.

00:08:57.960 Oil prices are healthy enough in the 50-plus U.S. dollar range, enough to spur record production,

00:09:04.340 for example, right across the border from Saskatchewan, for example, in North Dakota, which is the

00:09:09.420 exact same geological formation called the Bakken Formation as Saskatchewan has.

00:09:14.260 So North Dakota's never been richer, Texas's never been richer, never been busier, and we're

00:09:20.380 shrinking in Canada.

00:09:21.340 And it's not just oil in the prairies.

00:09:23.560 British Columbia's liquefied natural gas industry, which is huge.

00:09:26.140 It's drilling and fracking and pipelines and those massive LNG facilities to put the gas

00:09:33.640 onto ships and send it to places like Japan and Korea.

00:09:36.220 That was shut down, too.

00:09:37.520 $36 billion project just nuked.

00:09:40.380 I mean, why waste time in Canada fighting with Trudeau and old Yeller there, asking if

00:09:45.240 you're smart enough to do a gender... 0.99

00:09:47.020 Hey, were you smart enough to do a gender analysis on your LNG?

00:09:49.840 All the smart LNG companies are.

00:09:51.360 Yeah, no, you'll just invest in Texas or Louisiana or Australia now.

00:09:57.560 So we've lost over $100 billion worth of construction projects.

00:10:02.660 Now, when Trudeau took office in 2015, the country was pretty much with him.

00:10:07.720 As you can see, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland were pretty much the only conservative places.

00:10:13.640 Newfoundland quickly flipped liberal.

00:10:15.260 And here we are four years later, look at the map.

00:10:19.160 Holy moly, most of the country is conservative now, including parts of Atlantic Canada, and

00:10:24.860 even Quebec is sort of conservative now.

00:10:28.260 And I think that is undeniably due, at least in part, to a reaction to Trudeau.

00:10:34.300 I think people are getting a bit sick of him.

00:10:35.800 The polls say so.

00:10:37.360 Yeah, of course, provincial politics is provincial politics.

00:10:39.320 There's a lot of local issues.

00:10:40.260 But Trudeau is the biggest personality in Canadian liberal politics.

00:10:44.920 And his policies have started to hurt the provinces, Alberta and Saskatchewan, obviously.

00:10:49.200 I think you can lump Ontario in there, too, especially with Trudeau's carbon tax and the

00:10:53.780 Atlantic.

00:10:54.260 Well, when you kill a $15.7 billion pipeline project called Energy East that was going to

00:10:59.980 terminate in New Brunswick and all your provincial premiers were liberal and they're turning into

00:11:05.600 Trudeau's doormat.

00:11:06.400 Yeah, I think Trudeau really was part of the mix for the results in the Atlantic.

00:11:09.800 That's my theory, at least.

00:11:12.160 So my point today is the premier's letter from the six premiers to Trudeau, it's true

00:11:16.740 or true enough.

00:11:17.660 There is a national unity problem here.

00:11:19.980 There's a constitutional problem here because the federal government, well, it would be nice

00:11:23.760 if they actually championed jobs for the rest of us, I mean, other than just the corrupt

00:11:29.020 cronies of Bombardier and SNC-Lavalin and Loblaws.

00:11:31.660 But at the very least, perhaps they could stop blocking natural job creation, stop letting

00:11:37.680 B.C. block pipelines, but they won't.

00:11:41.460 Trudeau himself personally killed the Northern Gateway pipeline.

00:11:44.180 This is a national unity problem.

00:11:45.700 It really is.

00:11:47.380 Don't take it from me.

00:11:48.240 Don't take it from the conservative premiers.

00:11:50.100 Take it from, you know, Canadians themselves. 0.83

00:11:52.240 Here's a poll done by Angus Reid earlier this year.

00:11:55.240 It asked an unusual question.

00:11:57.200 Who would you vote for federally if there were a Western separatist party around?

00:12:01.140 I'm not surprised that in Alberta, which you can see right in the middle there, 40% of

00:12:06.020 people would mark that X.

00:12:07.020 But look at that.

00:12:07.740 It's literally the number one option in every Western province.

00:12:11.500 It would be in a three-way tie in Manitoba, but a tie for first.

00:12:15.080 I note that the conservatives would be the second place choice in every province too.

00:12:20.980 Just as interesting is this breakdown.

00:12:23.600 Take a look at this.

00:12:25.040 The last one was by province.

00:12:26.540 This is by age group.

00:12:27.740 So every single age group is pro-separatist, including millennials, by the way.

00:12:33.460 And I think it's interesting that support for this radical option, I mean, separatism

00:12:37.420 is radical.

00:12:39.100 It's strongest amongst older Canadians.

00:12:40.820 I guess that's a reflection that people who have been around a while have concluded

00:12:44.420 that we have a systemic problem in Canada.

00:12:46.100 We had it before under the previous Trudeau.

00:12:48.880 We had it in various degrees under Mulroney and Kretchen too.

00:12:52.500 Canada's not really working for the West.

00:12:54.720 So what did Justin Trudeau have to say about this Western discontent?

00:13:01.180 Quebecers are better than the rest of Canada because, you know, we're Quebecers.

00:13:08.600 Yeah, of course.

00:13:09.560 I mean, come on.

00:13:11.020 That's right.

00:13:11.680 I showed you the wrong clip, didn't I?

00:13:13.240 Or maybe that's exactly perfectly the right clip.

00:13:16.440 He doesn't care.

00:13:17.060 He baits and smashes the West to delight his friends at the CBC in Montreal to a degree

00:13:24.400 in Toronto and Ottawa.

00:13:25.280 He doesn't care about the West.

00:13:26.740 He's like his dad.

00:13:28.320 Here's what he said when he was in Ottawa.

00:13:29.820 Look at the smirk here.

00:13:30.900 I want you to look at the smirk and the sideways head bob.

00:13:33.440 He does that when he's peacocking a bit.

00:13:35.140 Take a look.

00:13:35.520 I think it's absolutely irresponsible for Conservative Premiers to be threatening our national unity

00:13:41.780 if they don't get their way.

00:13:44.180 The fundamental job of any Canadian Prime Minister is to hold this country together,

00:13:48.580 to gather us together and move forward in the right way.

00:13:52.180 And anyone who wants to be Prime Minister, like Andrew Scheer, needs to condemn those attacks

00:13:55.980 on national unity.

00:13:56.760 Look at that.

00:13:59.400 The Premiers are worried about national disunity because Canadians are worried about national

00:14:04.740 disunity.

00:14:05.320 But Trudeau says that by raising those concerns, the Premiers are creating national disunity.

00:14:12.020 By raising the concerns, by reflecting the will of their constituents, their voters, their

00:14:17.540 industries, by representing their regions, they're creating a problem.

00:14:20.880 They should just shut up.

00:14:21.920 See, Trudeau didn't create the problem. 0.97

00:14:24.320 There's no problem.

00:14:26.740 Everything's great.

00:14:29.100 Everything's great.

00:14:30.080 Anyone who says they're a problem, they're the only problem.

00:14:33.200 Trudeau isn't very good at solving problems, partly because he doesn't admit there are problems

00:14:38.360 other than problems that other people did.

00:14:40.960 And he doesn't really solve those problems, but he can apologize for them, can't he?

00:14:46.060 Usually with a lot of tears from the dramatic actor or substitute drama teacher, so you know

00:14:51.480 he really means it.

00:14:52.360 Yeah, no, that ain't going to work.

00:14:55.140 It's a form of his censorship policy, isn't it?

00:14:57.620 He'll just stop people from expressing themselves.

00:14:59.980 He leans on Twitter and Facebook and YouTube to get critics shut up.

00:15:03.760 He'll demonize people as racist or whatever.

00:15:06.280 He'll revive the Section 13 censorship provision of the Canadian Human Rights Act.

00:15:10.240 He'll silence anyone saying there's a problem.

00:15:12.320 So if everyone is silenced and no one is saying there's a problem, then there's obviously

00:15:16.200 no more problem, right?

00:15:17.000 No, no, no, that's not how it works.

00:15:19.520 If you put a piece of duct tape across someone's mouth, you have maybe silenced them, but you

00:15:24.060 certainly haven't solved the problem.

00:15:25.680 You've probably made it worse.

00:15:26.960 You probably have not changed their mind.

00:15:29.880 Oh, and by the way, at least Pierre Trudeau claimed to fight against separatism.

00:15:34.780 He caused and stoked separatism.

00:15:36.780 But at least he claimed to try to fight against it.

00:15:38.940 Stephen Harper, by the way, he cooled Quebec separatism to absolute zero.

00:15:43.380 Imagine that, a Western conservative from Calgary, so appeasing and appealing to Quebec, that

00:15:49.140 the bloc had essentially melted away.

00:15:51.620 They disappeared under Harper.

00:15:52.860 Well, Justin Trudeau, he's not quite as patriotic as his old man, is he?

00:15:57.900 He said, this is what he said a few years back when he was in opposition, he said, and I

00:16:03.000 always say that if I ever believed Canada was really the Canada of Stephen Harper, and

00:16:06.500 we were going against abortion and going against gay marriage, and we were going backward 0.80

00:16:09.800 in 10,000 different ways, maybe I'd think of wanting to make Quebec a country.

00:16:16.600 Hmm.

00:16:17.620 Yeah, you know, I think this isn't an accident.

00:16:20.700 See, if Quebec was upset about anything, Trudeau would give them whatever they wanted.

00:16:25.820 Look at how far he was willing to go for SNC-Lavalin or Bombardier or whatever.

00:16:29.120 But the West?

00:16:30.800 I think he wants it to burn.

00:16:32.300 Because I think Justin Trudeau has calculated in his mind there are enough haters in the

00:16:38.500 rest of Canada to win it for him.

00:16:40.220 He wants to demonize the West.

00:16:41.680 He wants the West angry, because maybe he can win Toronto and Ottawa and Quebec and the 1.00

00:16:46.680 Atlantic that way.

00:16:47.460 I don't think this is an accident.

00:16:49.440 That head-bobbing peacock move shows this is something he was certainly thinking about.

00:16:53.900 I think Justin Trudeau would absolutely sacrifice Canadian unity to win the next election.

00:17:00.900 What do you think?

00:17:02.700 Stay with us for more on the subject of Lauren Gunter.

00:17:19.000 Welcome back.

00:17:19.720 Well, who better to talk about this than our friend Lauren Gunter, senior columnist at the

00:17:24.640 Edmonton Sun.

00:17:25.760 He joins us now via Skype.

00:17:26.960 Well, great to see you again.

00:17:27.820 Thanks for being here.

00:17:28.600 Good to see you.

00:17:29.320 I have in front of me your column.

00:17:30.560 Let me just read the headline. 0.94

00:17:32.260 Trudeau risks Western Canadian resentment with pig-headed environmentalism.

00:17:37.860 I agree with that as far as it goes, Lauren, but I think it's not just environmentalism.

00:17:42.840 I think he enjoys the fight against the West.

00:17:46.920 It would be on any subject.

00:17:48.280 I think he just likes baiting and bashing the West.

00:17:51.220 Environmentalism is his cause du jour, but it could be anything.

00:17:53.520 When our son, who is now in his mid-20s, was seven, he came back from school one day and we asked him about how things were going.

00:18:05.960 He was talking about the principal at his elementary school.

00:18:09.000 He said, that Mrs. C has too much government in her. 1.00

00:18:14.420 And my wife laughed and she said, where do you think he gets that from?

00:18:20.660 And it's the same with Justin.

00:18:22.720 Like he sat at that kitchen table as a child and heard his father go after Western Canada and probably, you know, probably disparage Alberta all the time.

00:18:33.620 It would be very hard for him not to have drunk a lot of that up.

00:18:37.980 And so I agree with you.

00:18:39.080 It's not just environmentalism, but on this issue, which was, you know, the pair of anti-pipeline bills that the liberals are going to pass before the end of this session.

00:18:50.380 I think they're doing more than anything else to stir up that resentment.

00:18:54.020 Yeah.

00:18:54.280 You know, I'm glad you mentioned that.

00:18:56.580 I mean, it's true, even just by passive osmosis, if you're at the dinner table with your prime minister, dad, and especially, I mean, Trudeau was born in December of 1971.

00:19:10.440 So he was still pretty, pretty young.

00:19:13.160 He wouldn't have any memory of the first term or two of Pierre Trudeau's government.

00:19:18.500 But by the time the National Energy Program came around in 1980, 81, 82 kind of time, okay, now Justin Trudeau, the boy, is 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, and he's taking an interest in his dad.

00:19:33.880 And so he's paying attention not in the, you know, wage and price control era of Trudeau, but in the smash the West, destroy the West, NEP era of Pierre Trudeau.

00:19:46.000 And that would be his final memory of his dad's prime ministership, his strongest memory, maybe his only memory.

00:19:54.680 Yeah.

00:19:55.180 And you know, there's a great book that was written by a former liberal insider called The Fights of Our Lives, and it talks about the five or six elections in Canadian history that have made a difference to the way we're governed.

00:20:12.140 And it talks about the 1980 election, which is the one where Trudeau made some vague, Pierre Trudeau made some vague promise about, you know, a made in Canada energy policy or whatever.

00:20:24.740 But nobody ever said anything about the National Energy Program.

00:20:27.100 And then within a year of the election, of course, they sprang that on us.

00:20:33.640 But there's a great story because it was always, there's always been this rumor that during that campaign in the liberal war room, Keith Davey, who was the longtime senator and chairman of election preparedness for the liberals, there was this rumor forever that he had said, screw the West, we'll take the rest.

00:20:52.360 That that was their mantra in that election.

00:20:54.960 And the liberals had always said, oh, my goodness, no, no, no, no, no, no one ever said that.

00:21:00.040 And in this book, it's confirmed.

00:21:02.700 Yes, indeed.

00:21:03.300 That's exactly what Keith Davey said.

00:21:07.280 And so, I mean, I think this group of liberals is not as honest as the last group, even with themselves.

00:21:16.340 I don't think they sit down and they say, we're going to screw the West, we're going to screw Alberta.

00:21:21.420 But everything they do is, you know, is anathema to what it is that we value, that we believe, and that we advance.

00:21:30.280 And so it has the same effect in the end.

00:21:33.500 You know, I want to make one more point and get your reaction to it on Trudeau echoing his father's comments, because it's not the most important thing here.

00:21:41.960 The most important thing is that he is doing what he's doing.

00:21:46.560 He's baiting the West, bashing the West.

00:21:50.880 He's poo-pooing the concerns by these six premiers, including, I should point out, an aboriginal premier of Northwest Territories.

00:21:58.520 I want to say one more thing about Trudeau echoing his dad, because I look at Trudeau, and I think he's not a serious man like his dad.

00:22:10.420 His dad, however wrongheaded, was a thinker and a writer and a sort of scholar, and he had a firm worldview.

00:22:19.700 He was wrong, but he had a worldview.

00:22:21.380 Trudeau was empty.

00:22:22.140 And whenever I hear Trudeau talk about something spontaneously, like not as in reading a script, it feels like a 10-year-old's recollection, or a grown-up's recollection of what he heard when he was 10.

00:22:39.040 So it hasn't evolved.

00:22:40.520 It feels childish.

00:22:42.720 It's how a child would remember it. 0.98

00:22:44.320 So the instinctive distaste, aesthetically, for those yucky Westerners. 0.99

00:22:50.900 Look at the other two things, the other couple things you can see in him today. 0.58

00:22:55.940 A love for Castro.

00:22:58.080 Childish, wide-eyed.

00:22:59.680 When Castro died, this over-the-top eulogy.

00:23:03.360 Same thing for China, the land of the future. 0.98

00:23:06.160 I mean, the only things that Trudeau actually cares about, other than marijuana legalization.

00:23:10.680 And he had reached for their basic dictatorship.

00:23:12.080 I mean, he actually said that, right?

00:23:13.640 You had to admire their basic dictatorship because it's enabled them to become one of the world leaders in environmentalism.

00:23:21.960 That is so wrong, so shallow, and so dense that you have to wonder how an adult would even say that.

00:23:31.580 That's a 45-year-old, 48-year-old man remembering a feeling that he got from his dad 35 years ago.

00:23:40.340 That's my theory.

00:23:40.880 Yeah, I mean, I have a slightly different one, but it basically boils down to an underdeveloped mind.

00:23:48.360 I think that he was sort of enamored of his freshman seminars in political science at McGill and has never advanced into the real world.

00:24:01.260 I mean, we all did that when we were in university, right?

00:24:03.360 We were idealists in first year.

00:24:06.380 Maybe by fourth year, we were either activists or we were realists.

00:24:10.780 And as we moved through family and mortgages and jobs and careers and things, we lost a lot of that immature and naive freshman mentality.

00:24:23.160 He's never had to do that, right?

00:24:24.660 He could just go around presenting checks.

00:24:27.460 Peter Pan.

00:24:28.280 He's Peter Pan.

00:24:29.000 He's never had to grow up.

00:24:29.960 Exactly.

00:24:30.720 Exactly.

00:24:31.280 He could go around to folk music festivals and drink a little too much beer, smoke a little too much weed, maybe grab a reporter here and there.

00:24:41.780 And that was as serious as he ever had to be because there was a family fortune that was paying his way.

00:24:46.700 Then a bunch of seasoned liberals came along and they said, gee, if we had that name leading our party, we could get back to power.

00:24:56.000 And I've used this analogy with you before and with others too.

00:25:01.560 I think he's Chance the Gardener.

00:25:04.100 And if you've ever seen Jersey Kaczynski's book, Being There, or the movie that was made with Peter Sellers about that book,

00:25:11.200 about a guy who is a little slow, wanders off from his job as a gardener to a rich guy after the rich guy dies,

00:25:19.620 and he just spouts these aphorisms.

00:25:22.700 And yet the tony people, the trendy people, all think it means something.

00:25:29.080 And he eventually becomes president.

00:25:31.100 I think this is Chance the Gardener.

00:25:33.980 You know, let me play a quick clip from that.

00:25:35.940 You're exactly right.

00:25:37.300 I remember, oh, I just forgot the name of the comedian.

00:25:40.140 He played the Pink Panther.

00:25:42.100 Here, just take a quick look.

00:25:43.280 Peter Sellers.

00:25:43.860 Peter Sellers.

00:25:44.620 That's right.

00:25:45.120 Here, take a quick look at that.

00:25:47.840 As long as the roots are not severed, all is well, and all will be well in the garden.

00:26:03.460 In the garden.

00:26:05.180 Hmm.

00:26:06.480 Hmm.

00:26:08.400 Hmm.

00:26:08.800 Lauren, you're so right.

00:26:10.760 That is, it's, that's not only the, the, the, uh, shallowness of Trudeau's comments,

00:26:15.840 but that accurately shows how the fancy people are wowed by this genius.

00:26:20.280 Let's get, I mean, we're having a lot of fun talking about Justin Trudeau, uh, because you

00:26:24.260 know what?

00:26:24.520 There's a dearth of this kind of psychology of like every utterance of Stephen Harper,

00:26:30.620 everything Trump has said, you get a medical point of view by the left.

00:26:34.840 You get a psychological analysis by the left, his family, his relationships, none of that

00:26:39.420 has been done with Justin Trudeau.

00:26:41.880 So I feel like there's, I mean, Sophie Trudeau just did an interview the other day.

00:26:45.880 No wedding ring on, and I'm not saying that there's trouble in the Trudeau house.

00:26:50.000 I am pointing out that you don't see her in public with Trudeau a lot.

00:26:53.840 If that was Melania Trump, if Melania Trump had given an interview with no wedding ring

00:26:58.800 on, that would be front page New York times and Sunday night live.

00:27:02.840 How many times did you see her facial expression examined at the inaugural bowl?

00:27:08.900 Remember that was, that was a big thing for days.

00:27:11.400 Oh, look, she doesn't look happy.

00:27:12.800 Yeah.

00:27:13.080 You know?

00:27:13.800 Yeah.

00:27:14.460 Unbelievable.

00:27:14.960 Well, that's, I mean, that's a lot of fun and I enjoy talking about it because no one

00:27:17.600 else in this country seems to, but let's get back to the meat and potatoes here, which

00:27:21.300 is bill C48 and bill C69.

00:27:23.860 Those are two bills that would disproportionately punish not only industry, but Western industry.

00:27:28.260 So these six premiers are saying, we got a problem here, Houston.

00:27:31.740 And Trudeau is saying, no, no problem.

00:27:34.060 You're the problem.

00:27:35.040 What happens next?

00:27:37.000 Yeah.

00:27:37.460 Yeah.

00:27:37.740 Yeah.

00:27:37.940 I know.

00:27:38.260 I mean, I, I, I liken Trudeau's response where he said that these six premiers were a 0.99

00:27:43.060 threat to national unity as, as when somebody in a schoolyard says, you're a bonehead. 0.89

00:27:47.620 And, and the person who's, who's the subject of, of the insult thinks they're being witty. 0.99

00:27:52.520 And they say, I know you are, but what am I?

00:27:54.740 And I just, I think that's, that's the level at which he's at at this point.

00:27:59.780 And, and so you have this, this prime minister who doesn't understand the effects that his

00:28:08.160 policies are having on other parts, or maybe even relishes the effects that they're having,

00:28:13.580 because these are parts of the country that he doesn't really like anyway.

00:28:17.080 He doesn't really feel a kinship towards.

00:28:20.000 And so he's, he's happy because this is, is energizing the people he needs to vote for

00:28:26.660 him.

00:28:26.880 The, the downtown Toronto, uh, full environmentalist who, who's so happy we're going to get

00:28:33.100 rid of plastic straws because that's going to save the turtles. 0.99

00:28:36.300 Uh, I mean, that, that kind of person who shares his shallow thinking, uh, but expert

00:28:42.920 after expert, after expert told the senators who were examining these two bills that they

00:28:48.560 were going to be economically disastrous.

00:28:50.920 And the interesting thing about this is that on C 69, which is the one that increases the

00:28:56.220 number of, uh, uh, steps in, in the approval process in the assessment process for future,

00:29:03.060 uh, pipelines in bill C 69, the, the independent senators who we all know are the liberal senators

00:29:09.800 and the conservative senators went away on their own and, and, and, and constructed their

00:29:14.720 own reports about what needed to be done.

00:29:16.720 And when they came back, the two reports were very, very similar.

00:29:20.380 It's so similar that they could get together very quickly and form a joint report.

00:29:24.400 And despite that, despite the fact that they heard thousands of hours of testimony that

00:29:29.460 they, uh, they listened to scores of witnesses and the two of them together, both sides agreed

00:29:36.320 roughly.

00:29:36.880 Um, despite that, no, Trudeau says, no, we're not changing this bill in any substantial way.

00:29:42.520 Uh, we're going to leave it just the way we sent it to you.

00:29:45.560 And too bad.

00:29:46.840 We don't care whether it's hard on national unity.

00:29:49.160 We don't care whether it's hard on the economy because it's a going to get us reelected and

00:29:53.440 B it, it, it feeds this fantasy view.

00:29:56.760 I have of, uh, the, the, the environment that we can switch from a fossil fuel, uh, economy

00:30:04.160 to a zero carbon economy, just with the, the waving of a magic wand.

00:30:09.240 Yeah.

00:30:09.540 It's, it's the kind of answer you'd expect from a guy who says, oh, I'm reducing my plastic

00:30:14.320 by buying water, uh, for $36 U S for 12 liter packages shipped to my house, by the way, in

00:30:24.780 plastic containers.

00:30:25.720 Like that's the kind of world he lives in.

00:30:28.060 I want to do one more amateur psychological round here because we, we heard, we've heard

00:30:33.760 a lot in the last six months about Trudeau's personality that we haven't heard in the last

00:30:37.220 four years.

00:30:38.280 We've heard, we've seen how he passively aggressively dealt with Jody Wilson-Raybould, Jane Philpott.

00:30:44.560 Soon the passive just gave way to the aggressive.

00:30:46.760 We've heard from Selena, from Selena Cesar Chavan, uh, the, the immigrant, I think from Grenada,

00:30:53.760 the black lady who was really, uh, hotheaded in her own right. 0.90

00:30:58.520 But we heard how Trudeau shouted at her on the phone when he didn't get his way.

00:31:03.040 We heard how Trudeau was the driving force behind the false prosecution of Vice Admiral

00:31:09.040 Mark Norman because he dared to, uh, not fall into line.

00:31:14.240 Um, I think Trudeau has a personality quirk that if he doesn't get his way in politics,

00:31:20.460 which is a game of give and take, he pouts and he's vengeful.

00:31:25.400 And, and you saw that even when those Aboriginal protesters came in to his fundraiser in Toronto 0.91

00:31:30.640 on behalf of Grassy Narrows, he went edgy.

00:31:34.180 He said, thank you for your donation.

00:31:35.940 Thank you for your donation.

00:31:37.140 Like it was sort of, ha ha.

00:31:38.560 I remember too, you remember too, he was at a corn roast in August last year, just south

00:31:42.820 of Montreal.

00:31:43.740 And a woman asked him when he was going, the federal government was going to pay back the

00:31:48.840 Quebec government, the $149 million that it cost Quebec to accept, to, to, to offer social

00:31:55.100 services to the people he was allowing to come across illegally from the United States.

00:32:00.000 And he said, that kind of racism isn't needed here.

00:32:02.760 He just, his back went straight up.

00:32:04.940 He just, it's so nasty.

00:32:06.960 And I mean, granted the woman was a bit edgy, but she's a voter. 1.00

00:32:10.580 She's not the opposition leader.

00:32:12.700 She's not somebody in, in a great position of power, but he ranted on her and called her

00:32:19.560 a racist.

00:32:20.180 And really, maybe, maybe there was sort of a hint of racism in what she was meaning, but

00:32:26.140 she didn't say anything racist and he just jumped on her.

00:32:29.320 That's just the way he is.

00:32:30.720 And I remember that incident and we'll play some background footage here as, as I mentioned

00:32:35.680 it.

00:32:37.020 The police grabbed her and twisted her arm and wouldn't let her go.

00:32:42.080 She did not, she did not threaten her or cost.

00:32:44.460 And, and we see, I don't know if you know this, Lauren, but we had a young reporter,

00:32:47.600 Kian Bexty, go to a prime minister's event in, in Meadow Lake, Saskatchewan.

00:32:52.380 Same thing.

00:32:53.200 A PMO handler literally elbowed our Kian Bexty there.

00:32:57.080 I think the agitation is building up.

00:32:59.500 Gerald Butts leaving.

00:33:01.020 They're sort of rudderless.

00:33:02.620 Let me ask you, listen, I'm enjoying the psychological conversation about Trudeau and

00:33:08.880 his team because it's not analyzed enough out there, but let's bring it back one more

00:33:12.320 time to the substance of it.

00:33:14.300 Do you think Bill C-69 and B-C-48, do you think those will be rammed through by Justin Trudeau?

00:33:20.500 Yes, yes, I do, because of just what we said, that he gets his back up about things and he

00:33:26.500 thinks that he needs to have his way, that he's the prime minister, he gets to have his

00:33:31.120 way.

00:33:31.720 But also because I do think they genuinely believe in the liberal caucus, in the House

00:33:36.540 of Commons, that these are really good bills, A, for the environment and B, for their re-election

00:33:43.060 chances, which are dwindling in, in some key ways.

00:33:46.720 Frankly, at this point, I am still worried that we're going to have a liberal minority

00:33:50.980 and it's going to be held in place by the NDP or the Greens, which would be even worse

00:33:55.860 than what we have now.

00:33:57.640 But yes, I do think this is going to get pushed through for all of those reasons, because

00:34:02.220 Trudeau is arrogant and because he really honestly believes his own publicity, that these

00:34:10.660 are terrific pieces of legislation. 0.65

00:34:12.060 You remember, you know what he did, of course, before he became prime minister.

00:34:16.360 Immediately before he became prime minister, he was a very well-paid motivational speaker

00:34:20.760 who mostly went to public sector conventions and conferences and gave them backpacks about

00:34:29.300 how important their public service jobs were, whether they were teachers or bureaucrats or

00:34:34.660 nurses or whatever it was, how important those jobs were to Canada, how important they were

00:34:40.240 to our society.

00:34:40.880 I don't disagree with that, but that's, that's all he did.

00:34:44.320 He had these bromides that he would go and he'd deliver for a half an hour and then they'd

00:34:48.420 all swoon and, and clap and, and I think, but you know, cause you've been to conferences

00:34:53.720 that when you go, you get this happy feeling, right?

00:34:57.340 You come back energized.

00:34:58.740 You want to start in on, on re, re, uh, energize your mission, whatever it is, it's politics,

00:35:04.780 it's work, it's whatever.

00:35:06.240 That's, that's the upside of a conference.

00:35:08.860 He has never seen the downside of that.

00:35:12.280 So he, he just thinks because he went to all these conferences, got paid a lot of money

00:35:16.400 and people rushed up to him afterwards and said, Oh, you're so insightful.

00:35:20.600 You're so marvelous.

00:35:21.740 You're so wonderful.

00:35:22.520 He thinks that how it works.

00:35:24.000 And so then when, when he says something and anyone, whether it's a citizen or an opposition,

00:35:29.400 a politician, uh, disagrees with them and sometimes very sharply, he's never seen that

00:35:34.780 before.

00:35:35.180 And he just doesn't know how to handle it.

00:35:37.100 You are so, so right.

00:35:38.840 You know, believe it or not, I used to have the same speaking agent as him and I used to

00:35:43.620 follow, I used to see clips of some of his speeches and that's exactly what it was like.

00:35:49.960 Like he, Justin Trudeau should have been on the Ted talk circuit and some sort of, you

00:35:56.220 know, frankly, if he were a governor general, I would hate it if he wrote his own speeches,

00:36:00.400 but being a mascot, just showing up everywhere, smiling, selfies, if he could have been nonpartisan,

00:36:06.460 that would have been actually a good place for him.

00:36:09.080 But anyone who has to deal with disagreement or policy is not the job for him.

00:36:15.300 Listen, Laura, I could talk to you all day about these things because you're one of the

00:36:17.520 few guys in the country who aren't afraid to challenge the precious one, but I know you've

00:36:22.880 got to go and do some real work too.

00:36:24.780 Thank you for being here with us today.

00:36:26.240 Okay.

00:36:27.140 All right.

00:36:27.600 Take care of my friend.

00:36:28.300 That's our friend, Lauren Gunter, senior columnist of the Edmonton Sun.

00:36:31.160 I encourage you to read his article in today's edition.

00:36:34.360 Stay with us.

00:36:35.080 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:36:35.660 Hey, welcome back to my monologue yesterday about Trudeau's proposed plastics ban.

00:36:50.740 Joel writes, don't forget Trudeau thinks babies are scientists, so he must think this

00:36:55.480 nine-year-old kid is the world's most renowned guru on everything.

00:36:59.540 I forgot about that.

00:37:01.260 I forgot about that.

00:37:02.780 Babies are scientists.

00:37:03.860 You know, as Lauren Gunter said, Trudeau used to go to these, he loves speaking in

00:37:10.280 front of high school kids because he can just say any goofy thing like babies are scientists

00:37:16.860 and we'll grow the economy from the heart out and he always can end sentences with some

00:37:24.520 upspeak and they'll just love it.

00:37:26.760 And that really was what he did in his life.

00:37:30.960 I think you've nailed it.

00:37:32.200 I think he really is like that.

00:37:33.560 Robert writes, elect clowns expect a circus.

00:37:38.360 Yes.

00:37:38.860 Now, I said for a long time that Gerald Butts was the Rasputin of Canadian politics.

00:37:45.800 It was so clear.

00:37:46.540 And I think the proof of that moment was in the Trudeau inquiry where Justin Trudeau was

00:37:53.780 prosecuted and convicted by the ethics commissioner violating, was it four or five counts of the

00:38:00.060 Conflict of Interest Act for taking the free gift from the Aga Khan.

00:38:03.060 And let me just give me one more second.

00:38:04.720 I know you've heard me say this before, but the accusation was that by taking a vacation worth hundreds of thousands of dollars in secret from the Aga Khan, Trudeau was at risk for corruption

00:38:18.580 because, of course, the Aga Khan is a huge lobbyist getting huge grants from the government of Canada.

00:38:22.900 And Trudeau's defense to that accusation, which on the face of it is so obvious, someone, you know, Aga Khan, who's a billionaire, of course he'll let Trudeau hang out at his Bahamas property.

00:38:35.640 When he's got a grant request in, it's business.

00:38:39.860 That's how they do it in the third world, at least. 0.99

00:38:42.100 Trudeau said, no, no, no, no, no, couldn't be because I don't know anything.

00:38:46.780 I wouldn't understand what the hell he's talking about.

00:38:48.500 I just come in, shake hands, I'm a relationship builder, and then I let the smart people do the work.

00:38:52.900 Read the, Google it, find the Trudeau report by the ethics commissioner.

00:38:57.760 That was his defense.

00:38:59.000 He said, I couldn't be corrupted because I had no idea what the man was saying to me.

00:39:03.860 I never do.

00:39:06.340 Gerald Butts used to run this government, now he's gone.

00:39:08.360 It's so clear that Trudeau's just bouncing around like a pinball.

00:39:12.540 On my interview with Barbara Kaye, Paul writes,

00:39:15.080 the liberals keep upping the rhetoric they call pro-life anti-choice.

00:39:19.420 Climate change has become a climate crisis.

00:39:21.740 Now we're guilty of genocide because of murders of Natives by Natives. 1.00

00:39:26.880 Yeah, you know what?

00:39:27.720 Someone sent me a message yesterday asking me what the legal consequences to a conviction for genocide is.

00:39:36.780 And I thought, well, you know, getting into international law, and I don't even know if international law is a real thing,

00:39:41.480 because try enforcing it.

00:39:42.540 You and what army, right?

00:39:45.960 But I'm going to look into that.

00:39:47.840 Someone sent me a tip.

00:39:48.860 And if someone has actually been found convicted of genocide, if a government has, what are the so-called consequences?

00:39:57.360 What were the consequences in Bosnia or Rwanda?

00:40:00.980 Obviously, the Holocaust ended when the Third Reich was destroyed by the Allies.

00:40:06.320 And the Armenian genocide just ended when the Turks rolled over everyone. 0.87

00:40:10.920 The Ukrainian genocide of the Holodomor, again, Stalin, quote, won. 0.95

00:40:17.180 Stalin was never removed. 0.71

00:40:18.480 So what does happen when a sitting government is, quote, convicted of genocide? 1.00

00:40:24.880 Now, maybe even a genocide court at The Hague would say Trudeau is so stupid, 0.99

00:40:30.700 he pled guilty to a crime that did not actually happen. 0.99

00:40:35.440 But what do you do when the accused man says, yeah, I'm guilty?

00:40:39.400 It's just so weird.

00:40:40.040 I'm going to look into that.

00:40:40.840 I'm going to look.

00:40:41.280 I think international law is a lot of hocus pocus.

00:40:43.940 But, you know, it behooves me to look into this a bit, and I appreciate the question.

00:40:50.680 Well, folks, that's the show for today.

00:40:51.920 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:40:57.320 And keep fighting for freedom while you still can.

00:40:59.240 Thank you.

00:41:10.680 Thank you.

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Rebel News Podcast - June 14, 2019

Justin Trudeau makes bashing western Canada part of his reelection plan

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