Rebel News Podcast - “Kingston youth” charged with terrorism — but Justin Trudeau warns against “fear mongering over immigration”

00:00:00.000 Tonight, one of Trudeau's Syrian refugees is charged with terrorism in Kingston, Ontario,

00:00:05.300 after an investigation involving 300 officers.

00:00:09.240 It's January 25th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

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00:00:30.000 Two suspected terrorists were arrested in Kingston, Ontario.

00:00:36.860 One of them is a 20-year-old man named Hassam Edin Al-Zahabi.

00:00:42.000 The other is a teenager who cannot be named.

00:00:44.400 The terrorism charges suggest that Al-Zahabi and his friend were going to build IEDs,

00:00:49.760 improvised explosive devices, or in plain language, they were building bombs.

00:00:55.060 Here, listen to the police.

00:00:56.220 Earlier today, the RCMP charged one young person with the following criminal code offences.

00:01:04.580 Knowingly facilitating a terrorist activity, contrary to Section 83.19 of the criminal code,

00:01:11.200 and counselling a person to deliver, place, discharge, or detonate an explosive,

00:01:16.900 with the intent to cause death or serious bodily injury, contrary to Section 431.2 of the criminal code,

00:01:24.780 which offense was not committed, and did thereby commit an offense contrary to Section 464A of the criminal code.

00:01:33.400 No further details will be provided due to the age of the individual.

00:01:37.860 A second individual, an adult male, has also been arrested.

00:01:41.360 There are a few things about this that trouble me, aside from the fact that there are terrorist plots afoot here in Canada.

00:01:49.520 The first is, we did not detect this crime.

00:01:53.180 The RCMP said they were told about it by the FBI, and they followed up, and it's great to have good friends like that.

00:02:01.560 But how did the RCMP miss it in Canada, but the FBI caught it in Canada?

00:02:09.020 I'm glad, I'm grateful, but why did we miss that?

00:02:14.240 Is it because the man in charge of our security, Ralph Goodale, has told the RCMP to stop spying on possible Muslim terrorists,

00:02:23.460 and to focus on fake threats that are more politically correct, like right-wing terrorism, you know all of that.

00:02:29.040 Here's the CBC state broadcaster thumping the tub for that last year.

00:02:34.000 Does Canada take the threat of far-right extremism seriously?

00:02:38.300 And let me just read a little bit.

00:02:39.600 While right-wing extremism, including the activities of neo-Nazi and other racist groups, is monitored by CSIS and the RCMP,

00:02:45.900 it doesn't receive the same amount of resources as threats from ISIS or al-Qaeda.

00:02:50.320 Yeah, yeah, I think it's because al-Qaeda knocked down the Twin Towers, and Muslim terrorists, including ISIS, 0.74

00:02:58.380 have killed literally tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of people around the world since 9-11.

00:03:03.460 Oh, and including here in Canada, where ISIS murdered Corporal Nathan Cirillo right outside our parliament,

00:03:09.220 and then entered parliament itself in a blaze of gunfire, and mowed down Warren Officer Patrice Vincent with a vehicle.

00:03:14.320 Yeah, I think maybe that's why.

00:03:16.080 Imagine telling our security agencies to take resources off of real terrorism and put them on our right-wingers, whatever that means.

00:03:24.800 It's politics, of course. I mean, look at this story from just last month.

00:03:28.260 Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale said Friday he would have his officials review use of words like Sikh, Sunni, and Shia,

00:03:36.060 those are Muslim terms, to describe terrorist threats after a report suggesting Canada was again at risk from Sikh extremism,

00:03:43.880 sparked fierce criticism. Yeah, so we have liberal ethno-politics trumping what our actual cops are saying.

00:03:51.320 I wonder why, I wonder if that's why we missed these accused terrorists in Kingston, but the FBI caught them.

00:03:58.600 Thanks to the FBI, I guess. One of the fascinating details was that it took 300 lawmen to catch them.

00:04:08.900 300? From different agencies, of course, but still 300?

00:04:15.020 I can confirm at this time that the RCMP has required over 300 resources to support this investigation.

00:04:21.160 Investigation. Investigations of this nature require extensive cooperation and collaboration with our domestic and international partners.

00:04:30.860 He later clarified, because people said 300, he meant 300 people.

00:04:37.380 My point is, if it takes 300 police and others to monitor one jihadi or two, how do you monitor 100? 0.98

00:04:47.100 And we know there's 100 ISIS returnees to Canada.

00:04:49.440 How do you monitor 1,000? Well, you can't, of course.

00:04:52.660 There just aren't that many police.

00:04:54.900 We don't have the resources.

00:04:56.540 Maybe the thing is to let in fewer of them in the first place.

00:05:00.420 The accused 20-year-old here, Hassam al-Zahabi, is one of Trudeau's Syrians.

00:05:06.580 He came here a year and a half ago, so he was a grown man already. He was an adult.

00:05:10.480 Now, they put him in high school in Kingston to learn English,

00:05:13.540 but why are we bringing in young, adult, single, unattached, military-aged Muslim men from Syria, terrorist central, to Canada?

00:05:21.300 Trudeau specifically said he wouldn't do that, but he did, and he put them right in our high schools.

00:05:27.100 And now one of them is accused of terrorism.

00:05:28.880 Same thing with Ibrahim Ali, a 29-year-old Syrian refugee that Trudeau let in.

00:05:35.900 He's the one accused of raping and murdering 13-year-old Marissa Shen in Burnaby, B.C.

00:05:41.060 Again, Trudeau said he wouldn't let in young, military-aged, single Muslim men into Canada from Syria. 0.88

00:05:46.800 Too much of a security risk, but he did let them in, and yes, they are a hell of a security risk, aren't they?

00:05:51.480 But look at this. This is from the CBC story.

00:05:56.420 RCMP charged Kingston, Ontario youth with terror-related defense after a security probe.

00:06:01.380 I love that touch. He's a Kingston man. He's a Kingston youth.

00:06:04.340 Yeah, no.

00:06:05.900 Let me read this quote from the story.

00:06:08.940 They talked to the father of the accused terrorist.

00:06:11.900 That's who they're referring to here.

00:06:13.500 Al-Zahabi said his family, originally from Syria, has been living in Canada since July 2017,

00:06:20.860 following time spent in Kuwait from 2008 to 2017.

00:06:26.880 So he is one of Trudeau's Syrians. 0.85

00:06:30.340 And look at this headline.

00:06:32.840 Father of man arrested in Kingston, Ontario probe says,

00:06:36.680 Maybe it's about terrorists?

00:06:38.820 You think.

00:06:40.640 You think.

00:06:41.560 Gee, it almost sounds like he knew that was coming.

00:06:44.780 Almost sounds like he expected it.

00:06:47.000 Oh, is this about the terrorism thing?

00:06:49.600 Almost sounds like he knew all about it.

00:06:52.280 Well, the CBC quickly changed that headline of the story.

00:06:55.920 I don't know, maybe Ralph Goodale called them.

00:06:57.840 And look, I mean, they changed it to Kingston man.

00:07:00.660 And look at this weirdness from a CBC newscaster.

00:07:04.460 This is what's coming in on our CBC news sources now.

00:07:06.980 20-year-old Hassam Adin al-Zahabi arrested, according to his father,

00:07:10.820 who confirmed, as you said to yourself and to Phil,

00:07:14.440 currently completing high school upgrades at Loyalist Collegiate and Vocational Institute.

00:07:20.260 And his family, as you said, from Kuwait, they do not consider themselves Syrian refugees.

00:07:25.100 This is all part of the interview that we will get on the air just as soon as we can.

00:07:28.260 And it's just been completed.

00:07:30.360 She repeated that several times.

00:07:31.960 They do not consider themselves Syrians.

00:07:33.580 They specifically said we're not Syrians.

00:07:35.480 Yeah.

00:07:36.140 Hey, guys, the family only got to come to Canada by saying they were Syrians.

00:07:41.880 That's how they were fast-tracked here.

00:07:43.840 But now that they're an embarrassment to Trudeau, they want you to know they don't consider themselves Syrian. 0.81

00:07:50.720 At least that's what the CBC says.

00:07:52.180 Well, maybe the CBC is right.

00:07:53.880 I mean, after all, they haven't set foot in Syria in over a decade.

00:07:58.300 They were living in a little oil-rich enclave called Kuwait.

00:08:01.520 It's an OPEC country, tiny country, absurdly rich.

00:08:05.820 Actually, their per capita GDP is not much lower than ours here in Canada.

00:08:09.840 Looks pretty nice.

00:08:10.660 This is their gleaming capital city.

00:08:13.700 So why did we move them from oil-rich Kuwait to Canada? 0.61

00:08:20.460 They were already in a great place.

00:08:21.840 Rich country.

00:08:22.640 Arab.

00:08:23.260 They speak Arabic.

00:08:24.780 They weren't refugees there.

00:08:25.760 Under refugee law, you have to apply for asylum in the first safe country you get to.

00:08:29.220 That would be Kuwait, where they've been for a decade.

00:08:32.960 And even on their own terms, they're not at risk.

00:08:35.080 The UN definition of a refugee is someone who has a well-founded fear of imminent danger

00:08:39.560 because of their race or religion or something like that.

00:08:42.020 There is no persecution of Muslim Arabs in Kuwait.

00:08:44.820 It is a Muslim Arab country that is at peace.

00:08:49.440 They're fake refugees, as all of Trudeau's were. 1.00

00:08:52.480 Remember, we actually took no people who were fleeing.

00:08:57.100 We took no people who were in jeopardy.

00:08:58.720 All of Trudeau's Syrians were already safe in Jordan, Turkey or Lebanon and, I guess, Kuwait.

00:09:04.500 Here's a senior civil servant in Trudeau's government in charge of the Syrian migration program telling this fact to Parliament.

00:09:12.320 Most of the 21,000 refugees that have made it to our borders were now housed in camps.

00:09:20.120 They have been living in theater for a number of years, renting apartments.

00:09:25.940 So I just wanted that for the precision.

00:09:30.440 They're not housed in camps administered by the UNHCR.

00:09:34.300 Can you give me a breakdown?

00:09:36.140 How many from camps?

00:09:37.320 I wouldn't be able to tell you the 21,000, how many, but very, very few came out of camps.

00:09:44.820 Most of the people were already living in the countries where we are operating.

00:09:50.820 So they had jobs, they had apartments, they were safe.

00:09:53.660 They're living in Beirut, Amman.

00:09:55.460 They're living in Turkey. 0.96

00:09:57.420 I think that line that the CBC was putting forward about him denying he's a refugee,

00:10:03.700 I think that either came from the liberals or it came from the church that sponsored this family,

00:10:09.300 the family accused of terrorism.

00:10:11.120 And you know who the real victims here are, right?

00:10:14.140 You know who's the real victims of this bomb threat?

00:10:16.540 Of course you do.

00:10:17.540 According to the CBC, the victim are the Syrians themselves.

00:10:23.160 Let me read this headline.

00:10:24.700 Community leaders work to head off anti-Muslim backlash after Kingston terror arrests.

00:10:30.340 Let me read some more.

00:10:31.220 Groups want to send messages that terror plot allegations have nothing to do with Islam, folk.

00:10:36.440 Nothing.

00:10:38.720 That's not what the terrorists say, though, is it?

00:10:41.180 They say it's all about Islam.

00:10:43.900 That's what Ralph Goodale says and what the CBC says, though.

00:10:49.840 That's not what the terrorists say.

00:10:52.500 Let me read some more.

00:10:53.660 Islamic community groups, mental health workers,

00:10:56.460 terrorists and police officers met today to calm fears

00:10:59.400 and discuss ways to prevent an anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant backlash

00:11:02.820 in the wake of two arrests related to an alleged terrorist plot in Ontario.

00:11:06.520 Great.

00:11:07.060 So Syrian refugees are having their fears calmed.

00:11:09.780 They're getting mental health.

00:11:10.980 But who is calming our fears about being murdered by Syrian terrorists? 1.00

00:11:15.920 Can you imagine having a kid in high school with this 20-year-old terrorist suspect?

00:11:22.180 I mean, weren't the charges today about a bomb threat against infidels?

00:11:26.120 Where's the mental health for us?

00:11:28.280 It's like that joke Mark Stein told a decade ago, but I'll never forget it.

00:11:34.020 Muslims fear backlash from tomorrow's terror attack. 0.84

00:11:38.020 Oh, yeah. 0.86

00:11:39.480 Oh, hey, cops are coming by.

00:11:40.860 Is this about the terrorist thing?

00:11:44.440 And why are we doing this to ourselves?

00:11:46.200 Well, first of all, why did a Christian church 1.00

00:11:49.200 who sponsored these migrants do it to themselves? 0.97

00:11:53.280 Our Lady of Lourdes Church is the name.

00:11:56.360 Now, I've been to Iraq where the Christian community

00:11:59.260 has been absolutely ethnically cleansed by ISIS.

00:12:02.420 There's me sweating in 44-degree heat in a bombed-out Christian town. 1.00

00:12:07.380 These Christians, look at that. 1.00

00:12:09.480 That's the church desecrated by ISIS graffiti. 0.98

00:12:12.660 They smashed all the Christians. 1.00

00:12:14.700 It's blasphemous. 0.98

00:12:16.540 Look at that.

00:12:17.340 They toppled that cross.

00:12:19.100 It was re-erected by the soldiers who liberated it.

00:12:22.700 That's what they do to Christians in the Middle East. 1.00

00:12:24.860 They exterminate them. 0.99

00:12:28.640 No one is genociding Muslims. 0.99

00:12:30.760 There's no country in the world that is exterminating Muslims. 0.76

00:12:33.960 None.

00:12:34.880 There's dozens of Muslim countries.

00:12:36.680 ISIS is Muslim. 1.00

00:12:38.980 They kill infidels. 1.00

00:12:40.560 The Christians in the places I saw, 1.00

00:12:44.000 they can't even go into those UN refugee camps

00:12:46.600 because many of the refugees in those camps

00:12:49.640 themselves are ISIS supporters.

00:12:52.200 And the UN bosses who run the refugee camps are anti-Christian too.

00:12:57.820 You know, I was in Germany a couple years ago,

00:13:01.100 and I was walking down a Muslim street in the city of Cologne,

00:13:04.840 and I met a Syrian refugee who happened to be non-Muslim.

00:13:09.140 He was Yazidi.

00:13:10.480 And I said, oh, let's talk.

00:13:11.580 He asked me if I could move away from the Muslim men on the street 1.00

00:13:16.060 before he spoke candidly.

00:13:17.560 Because even in Germany, 0.94

00:13:19.760 the refugees were ISIS sympathizers who would kill him 1.00

00:13:23.280 for not being Muslim. 1.00

00:13:24.640 He was a secret infidel. 0.99

00:13:25.720 Let me show you 30 seconds from that trip.

00:13:27.900 So I'm so sorry.

00:13:29.600 All right.

00:13:30.940 We could, I have the right.

00:13:32.160 Sure.

00:13:34.620 We can not directly say, we are Yazidi.

00:13:38.120 It can be grave if we say, we are Yazidi.

00:13:41.600 Ifèse is民 to hear, we say, we are Yazidi.

00:13:44.240 They say, we are kafir.

00:13:45.120 We are kind, kind, sad.

00:13:46.360 Yeah, I understand.

00:13:47.680 Maybe the church wants to help Christians. 1.00

00:13:55.260 I mean, if they don't, I don't know who will.

00:13:56.860 I don't know, maybe Kuwait will. 0.81

00:13:59.720 The UN spends billions of dollars on Muslims-only refugee camps.

00:14:04.020 The Middle East is full of OPEC countries overflowing with money for their Muslim brothers, including Kuwait.

00:14:09.960 So why on earth would a Christian church bring over anyone other than a Christian family? 0.98

00:14:14.700 You're not anti-Muslim if you save a Christian. 0.98

00:14:18.320 They're just virtue signaling, just like Justin Trudeau and Ralph Goodell.

00:14:21.540 And today, well, I'm shocked that a 20-year-old Syrian migrant was organizing bomb attacks against us. 0.96

00:14:27.980 His dad wasn't really shocked either.

00:14:30.140 Hey, thanks for warning us, eh?

00:14:31.360 You know, the civil war in Syria is over now, thanks to Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump.

00:14:39.420 More than 95% of Syria is safe now, probably closer to 99%.

00:14:44.360 ISIS has defeated in all but a few small villages.

00:14:49.520 Hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees, genuine refugees, are returning home from Lebanon, Turkey, Jordan.

00:14:56.080 Sure, there's work to do.

00:14:57.440 A lot of the country is rubble, but it's safe now.

00:14:59.180 Look, other countries are saying, hey, Syrian, it's time to go home.

00:15:02.940 There's Germany. 0.80

00:15:03.320 I mean, I wouldn't want to live in Syria, but I'm not Syrian.

00:15:08.340 After World War II, Europeans rebuilt their rubbled cities, France, Germany.

00:15:13.300 They went back to their own countries and fixed them. 0.98

00:15:16.920 That's what it's time for now.

00:15:18.540 Justin Trudeau didn't actually save anyone from Syria.

00:15:22.060 This family, for example, was from Kuwait, had been for 10 years.

00:15:26.480 Most of the others to Canada were already in Lebanon, Turkey, Jordan.

00:15:30.220 But whatever.

00:15:30.860 Okay, it's safe now.

00:15:31.680 Go home and rebuild your country.

00:15:36.700 Live in your own homeland. 0.99

00:15:38.180 Speak Arabic.

00:15:39.940 Eat your own kind of foods.

00:15:41.620 Enjoy your own kind of climate.

00:15:43.600 Practicing your own religion.

00:15:45.220 Treat your women the way you do. 1.00

00:15:47.160 I won't like it, but I won't matter.

00:15:48.620 Go be Syrian in Syria, where you can get work because you have credentials, where you speak the language, where you fit in, where you're not freezing in the winter.

00:15:59.080 Go home.

00:16:01.680 As Sheila Gunn-Reed showed us through access to information documents, Trudeau spends about $50,000 on each refugee family when they arrive here.

00:16:12.120 $50,000.

00:16:13.220 We showed you the documents.

00:16:15.500 You can see them at 50,000.ca.

00:16:19.420 $50,000 per family?

00:16:22.220 That is enough for first-class airfare back home.

00:16:26.680 Frankly, enough to buy an entire new house out there.

00:16:30.160 I say we do it.

00:16:31.760 I say let's be extremely generous.

00:16:35.040 Let's give these families $50,000 to go back. 1.00

00:16:37.720 But let's also stop being stupid, okay? 1.00

00:16:40.080 I mean, Trudeau did not vet these refugees. 1.00

00:16:41.900 Whether it's the accused rapist in Burnaby or these accused terrorists in Kingston or the accused child molester in West Edmonton Mall Water Park who was acquitted only because the judge said the white girls, the half dozen white girls he molested, well, they couldn't be relied on to identify a Muslim perpetrator for cultural reasons. 0.63

00:16:59.360 And so he's acquitted. 0.89

00:17:01.080 Or remember this guy, the hockey stick guy, the Syrian thug in New Brunswick who beat his wife for half an hour bloody with a hockey stick?

00:17:08.860 And he said to the court, I swear he said to the court, that no one in Canada ever told him that it was against the rules to beat your wife with a hockey stick.

00:17:18.940 I think we have a problem.

00:17:23.380 I don't think you can vet for this problem, by the way.

00:17:26.380 I don't think you can vet for someone who thinks it's okay to beat his wife with a hockey stick.

00:17:31.720 Well, no one told me.

00:17:32.860 How do you vet for that?

00:17:34.160 Oh, by the way, right in the middle of all this breaking news, the CBC had a warning for us, not about terrorists.

00:17:42.440 The warning for us was actually a warning about us.

00:17:45.940 We're the problem, you see.

00:17:47.240 We're the bigots, you see.

00:17:48.280 Not the ones making the bombs in the name of Allah, but the ones about to be bombed. 0.92

00:17:52.780 We're the evil ones.

00:17:54.460 The CBC's boss says so himself.

00:17:56.400 Look at this.

00:17:58.120 Trudeau warns fear-mongering over immigration will be part of election campaign.

00:18:03.260 Oh, really?

00:18:04.160 Yeah, let me read a little bit more.

00:18:05.340 This is from the CBC website.

00:18:06.680 PM says there are people trying to create fear, intolerance, and misinformation about immigration.

00:18:13.080 Yeah, I think one of the people trying to create fear and intolerance is named Hassan-Edin al-Zahabi,

00:18:18.960 but of course Trudeau actually meant you and me.

00:18:22.300 Justin Trudeau, let me read some more.

00:18:24.080 Justin Trudeau is warning voters to be wary of fear-mongering about immigration,

00:18:28.280 suggesting the issue will be a hot-button topic during the federal election campaign this fall.

00:18:32.180 Hey, guys, don't say hot-button when we're talking about people building IEDs, okay?

00:18:38.840 Let me read some more from the CBC.

00:18:40.540 And note here, this story was last night, right around when police announced they were making an arrest,

00:18:47.700 right when it became public.

00:18:48.960 And of course, Trudeau would have been briefed on that, even if the news hadn't come out.

00:18:53.720 So Trudeau knew what was about to happen, and so this was scripted.

00:18:58.700 And Trudeau's state broadcaster was happy to run the script.

00:19:01.260 Let me read.

00:19:01.680 The Prime Minister made the prediction Thursday during a town hall meeting in northern New Brunswick

00:19:07.900 where a young Syrian refugee thanked him for allowing her family to come to Canada.

00:19:12.580 I came all the way from Syria, and I came here to thank you, Tasmin Ali told the Prime Minister in a soft voice.

00:19:21.500 Her words met with warm applause from the 250 people gathered in a high school and mirror machine.

00:19:28.000 This is some sort of softcore Justin Trudeau porn or something.

00:19:31.260 It's one of those Harlequin romance novels. 0.63

00:19:33.380 That's not news.

00:19:34.200 That's the state broadcaster.

00:19:35.440 Get ready for a year of that and then run up to the election.

00:19:38.360 So the Prime Minister made the prediction.

00:19:40.200 No, he didn't.

00:19:40.660 The Prime Minister was told that another one of his Syrians was accused of terrorism.

00:19:44.720 So they had a soft voice.

00:19:46.360 Girls say, I love you, Justin Trudeau.

00:19:48.240 And Trudeau did his best drama teacher impression of how kind he is and how hateful, well, how hateful you are. 0.99

00:19:57.760 You are hateful. 0.97

00:19:59.100 Don't you know that? 1.00

00:20:00.200 You Canadians.

00:20:01.280 I mean, if you question Trudeau or his vetting of Syrians or their bona fides as actual refugees

00:20:07.740 or why they're still here since the Civil War is over or all the horrific crimes they're committing,

00:20:15.240 you are hateful. 0.99

00:20:16.660 So shut up and stop fomenting hate while Trudeau ensures that the local mosque has all the support they need to stay safe. 1.00

00:20:27.560 To stay safe from you, you bigot. 1.00

00:20:30.340 Stay with us for more.

00:20:32.920 This morning, the FBI has arrested Roger Stone, the president's political advisor.

00:20:51.840 Exclusive footage you're looking at right now from CNN as the FBI arrives at Roger Stone's residence in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, taking him into custody.

00:21:03.780 We understand he will be arraigned in Fort Lauderdale later this morning, indicted on seven counts, one count of obstruction, five counts of making false statements, one count of witness tampering.

00:21:17.460 Again, they arrived before dawn there, before 6 a.m., or just after 6 a.m., a dozen officers were told.

00:21:25.340 The FBI agent shouted, FBI warrant.

00:21:29.320 And you can see it all play out right here.

00:21:34.260 This is just remarkable.

00:21:35.700 It's just remarkable to watch, you know, what they call.

00:21:41.200 That's it.

00:21:41.900 FBI, open the door. 0.94

00:21:42.860 And now they're about to say another warning.

00:21:47.460 FBI warrant.

00:21:49.860 FBI warrant.

00:21:51.400 This is called, you know, the grab shot in the vernacular, and it is remarkable to watch this all unfold.

00:21:59.140 You can see Roger Stone right there, a little bit behind that door.

00:22:02.780 And yes, you know, standard operating procedure for the FBI to show up heavily armed.

00:22:07.020 In riot gear.

00:22:07.800 Like this.

00:22:09.140 But they didn't do this for other people connected in the investigation.

00:22:13.460 So it is remarkable that they did this without warning, without any indication to Stone's lawyers beforehand that this would happen.

00:22:20.180 Well, there you have it.

00:22:21.060 That is amazing coincidence that CNN happened to be right there, outside the Fort Lauderdale home of Roger Stone, who has been investigated by the special counsel in the United States for more than a year.

00:22:34.140 What are the odds that CNN knew exactly where to go and exactly when within an hour?

00:22:41.540 And what are the odds that the FBI felt they just absolutely needed to have six police cars, 12 military style police with flak jackets and long arms going in SWAT team style?

00:22:54.880 Because, you know, a 66-year-old grandpa-aged pundit, well, you never know what he's going to do.

00:23:02.080 But, of course, there's no point in having that kind of shock and awe if no one's there to be shocked and awed by it.

00:23:08.500 So, of course, CNN was brought along.

00:23:10.560 You know they need the element of surprise at 6 a.m. when they allow CNN to have their bright spotlight.

00:23:16.820 Because, of course, there's no point in that kind of a dramatic political style raid if no one sees it.

00:23:23.660 Oh, my God.

00:23:24.520 Joining us now via Skype is our friend Joel Pollack, senior editor-at-large at Breitbart.com.

00:23:29.140 Joel, great to see you again.

00:23:30.380 What do you make of that?

00:23:31.720 It reminded me of Bill Clinton going in SWAT team style to grab Julian Gonzalez.

00:23:37.720 If I'm saying the name right, that little boy.

00:23:40.180 I probably had the name wrong.

00:23:41.180 That little Cuban boy that they were going to give back to Cuba. 0.73

00:23:44.800 Elian Gonzalez, excuse me.

00:23:50.940 A bizarre show of force and CNN there.

00:23:55.900 It looked third world style, to be candid.

00:24:00.380 Yeah, it really was unnecessary, I think, and excessive.

00:24:04.500 Roger Stone has been saying for months that he expected to be indicted.

00:24:07.900 And yet, despite that expectation, he didn't leave the country.

00:24:11.580 He didn't go underground.

00:24:12.760 He didn't hide.

00:24:13.400 He didn't disappear as a fugitive.

00:24:16.220 I mean, he was living, as he usually does, in Florida.

00:24:19.640 And he could have been asked to come with his lawyer to the FBI, as others have.

00:24:26.860 But when it comes to Manafort and Roger Stone and some of the higher-ups, I don't think you can call Roger Stone higher-up, but he's high-profile.

00:24:34.920 Some of the targets in this investigation, the FBI has done this very theatrical thing.

00:24:38.900 I'm not sure that CNN was tipped off.

00:24:43.080 It does seem likely, but there's an alternative explanation, which is the one they gave, which may be plausible, which is simply that they're so obsessed with this story that they had staked out that apartment for a long time.

00:24:55.960 And they had watched the court for a long time to see if there was unusual activity.

00:24:59.880 CNN is so committed to this story of Russia collusion because they want to undo the 2016 election that it's entirely plausible they would have had reporters up all night waiting for the FBI or waiting to get the photographs of Roger Stone being led away in handcuffs.

00:25:17.260 I don't think that it helps Robert Mueller to have this out there.

00:25:22.180 It makes him look thuggish, as you say, third world and intimidating, but it doesn't intimidate the targets of the investigation who already know who they are.

00:25:31.820 They're not hiding.

00:25:33.260 It actually makes him look bad.

00:25:34.980 It makes the FBI look bad.

00:25:35.980 So I think there's actually less of a chance this was leaked by someone on Mueller's team, unless it was some rogue member of Mueller's team, some law enforcement official who wants to help CNN because he agrees with their political line.

00:25:48.920 I mean, that's entirely possible.

00:25:49.940 But I think that the explanation CNN gave is likely to be true.

00:25:54.720 It doesn't mean it has to be true, but they are simply so obsessed with this story that they would have paid somebody and apparently a couple of people to stake out Roger Stone's apartment.

00:26:06.140 And I don't think it tells us much about CNN other than what we already knew, which is that they're determined to bring Trump down.

00:26:15.680 And so this is a big day for them.

00:26:17.260 Yeah.

00:26:17.500 Well, I remember, I mean, we had an experience almost two years ago.

00:26:21.320 We had a reporter in the UK, Tommy Robinson is his name, and he committed a civil infraction, a contempt of court.

00:26:29.400 He reported something in Canterbury he wasn't supposed to.

00:26:33.140 Right.

00:26:33.700 The judge, you know, could have picked him up any time of day.

00:26:36.080 The judge sent a SWAT team to his house at 4.30, and they do this to Tommy, and I'm not trying to bring Tommy into this, but to cause his wife upset, to cause the kids upset, to cause embarrassment, to cause stress.

00:26:49.540 You know, they knew where he was the whole time.

00:26:52.500 They didn't need to come for Tommy at 4.30.

00:26:55.400 They could have come at 10 a.m. after the kids were at school.

00:26:57.960 Now, Roger Stone doesn't have school-edged kids, but like you say, they, you know, Roger Stone has lawyers.

00:27:02.680 They could have just asked him to present to the police station and to send 12 SWAT team cops.

00:27:09.020 Are they implying that he's violent?

00:27:10.560 Like, it's just, what bothers me, I mean, you're very generous to give CNN the benefit of the doubt to say they staked it out and weren't tipped off, but let's accept that.

00:27:21.320 But for the FBI, even if they didn't tip off the media, for them to send 12 SWAT teams to arrest a grandpa-aged pundit shows to me that the FBI is still rotten and political because I don't believe that that was a legitimate operational choice.

00:27:41.100 I don't believe there was a risk assessment that Roger Stone was going to go out guns blazing, that he was going to run to the airport and get on a private plane.

00:27:48.780 I think what we know for sure, we don't know for sure how CNN heard about, we know for sure what the FBI did at the, probably at the direction of Mueller.

00:28:00.440 That, to me, is the largest problem there, is that we have an FBI that is clearly acting as its own political force.

00:28:07.140 What do you make of that? Am I overdoing it?

00:28:09.180 I think that if you understand the FBI's mentality toward all of this, that's different than saying they're correct.

00:28:20.820 But if you understand that they may actually believe that they are saving the country from some foreign enemy, again, it doesn't mean they are, right?

00:28:30.920 Because they're not. There's no evidence of Russia collusion, and they would say that they haven't found any.

00:28:36.940 I mean, there's been none in these court documents, for example.

00:28:40.080 But if that's what many of them, especially those who donated to Hillary Clinton, who are card-carrying Democrats, you know, that's who staffs the Mueller investigation.

00:28:52.120 If they're in the mindset that much of the rest of the media and the opposition are in, in their mind, they are conducting a counter-terror operation, not just a kind of investigation of some process crimes.

00:29:06.600 And so I think to them, this might have seemed entirely appropriate.

00:29:10.560 I agree with you, it's inappropriate, excessive, and all of that.

00:29:14.020 I also think it makes Robert Mueller look very bad, and it makes it look like they deliberately leaked this information to CNN.

00:29:20.360 I mean, all of that is plausible, or at least can be part of the story.

00:29:25.460 But I just think what you have probably on both ends, both in the special counsel's team and in CNN, both of which are totally dominated by Democrats,

00:29:36.200 I think you have the hysteria that we've seen in the media as a whole and in the Democratic Party about Russia that is guiding their choices.

00:29:44.960 To them, this may have seemed rational and reasonable.

00:29:47.500 It doesn't mean it was, but I think that's what it tells us.

00:29:50.040 It tells us that this Russia conspiracy hysteria continues to grip our institutions,

00:29:54.860 even when they think they're trying to make things right.

00:29:57.700 Yeah.

00:29:57.940 Well, I mean, CNN is its own thing, and it's a private company.

00:30:01.520 It can do what it wants, but Donald Trump's been president for more than two years.

00:30:06.540 James Comey is no longer the head of the FBI.

00:30:08.280 So it's one thing for CNN to have Trump derangement syndrome, but who's running the show in Washington?

00:30:15.660 I mean, is Donald Trump president or not?

00:30:16.960 I'm not saying that Trump should politicize the FBI.

00:30:20.220 The opposite of them, saying Trump should depoliticize the FBI and put someone in who is absolutely just a cop's cop, not a politician's cop.

00:30:30.840 Is that even possible?

00:30:32.220 Why is it two years out now that this is still a problem?

00:30:38.280 Well, I think, and I've said the FBI might even need to be abolished.

00:30:42.160 I mean, I think it's an institutional problem.

00:30:44.340 Remember, there's no reason for Mueller to have hired Democrats to run this special investigation.

00:30:49.800 I mean, a team of Democrats.

00:30:51.380 It's not even one Republican on this team.

00:30:54.500 I think that they are beset by institutional problems.

00:30:59.280 They're part of the party of government.

00:31:01.820 Look what the director of the FBI said to his employees during the shutdown, that he was angry about the shutdown, that it was mind-boggling there was a shutdown.

00:31:09.700 I mean, this is a guy who wouldn't have the job if Trump hadn't elevated him to it.

00:31:13.240 And he's taking a position on the shutdown that essentially accuses the president of doing something insane.

00:31:18.100 It's an institutional problem.

00:31:20.700 It cannot be solved by appointing new people.

00:31:23.580 So I am actually on the record saying they should tear it down and start over, and they should create clear lines of accountability.

00:31:30.500 It's really just ridiculous that Trump is about to appoint an attorney general.

00:31:35.440 He's appointed an attorney general who is about to get confirmed.

00:31:38.460 And yet that attorney general is now going to have to be the boss of the Mueller investigation, but can't actually run that investigation.

00:31:44.040 Because if he does, if he tells Mueller to keep things within bounds, if he tells him not to do these pre-dawn raids, it's going to be seen as political interference in the investigation, even when it isn't.

00:31:53.240 So Bob Barr, or William Barr, excuse me, Bob Barr was a congressman.

00:31:58.320 Bill Barr is going to have to go in there and be the president's adversary.

00:32:01.820 It makes no sense.

00:32:02.740 We have a system regarding our allocation of responsibilities when it comes to legally advising the president, carrying out the president's directives for law enforcement on the one hand, and also on the other hand, being a legal watchdog against abuses of power.

00:32:18.260 It can't be done by the same people with the same agencies.

00:32:20.920 It creates this problem.

00:32:22.380 It has to be done from scratch.

00:32:24.940 It's got to be redone.

00:32:26.180 You could hire some of the same people.

00:32:27.600 There are good law enforcement people in the FBI.

00:32:30.160 There are people of all political persuasions.

00:32:32.020 There are people who just want to get the job done, who care about serving their country.

00:32:34.940 All of that is true.

00:32:36.460 But you have an institutional culture that I think is not going away, and so I think the institution needs to be changed.

00:32:42.560 I want to say one more thing about Roger Stone.

00:32:46.560 He's an interesting character, colorful character.

00:32:48.820 I mean, the guy literally has a tattoo of Richard Nixon on his back.

00:32:53.640 He does unusual things.

00:32:55.560 He gives fashion.

00:32:56.680 He writes a fashion card for Daily Caller.

00:32:58.720 I think he enjoys being a figure of mystery.

00:33:03.220 He likes dirty tricks.

00:33:05.620 I mean, I'm not saying anything he wouldn't say himself.

00:33:08.240 And I also think he knows and admits to indulge in conspiracy theories.

00:33:12.840 He, you know, he wrote wild books about Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush, both of whom he thought would be Donald Trump's rivals.

00:33:21.420 And I guess he was right in both of that.

00:33:22.820 I mean, he called it the Clinton crime syndicate, the Clinton-Bush.

00:33:26.580 Like, he's so over the top.

00:33:29.840 My theory is this.

00:33:31.280 Tell me what you think of this theory.

00:33:33.520 It's a guy like that loves controversy, loves mystery, loves intrigue so much that part of him sort of liked being targeted by Mueller because it made him feel like a real player.

00:33:44.400 But if you look at what he was arrested for today, absolutely none of it goes to, is Trump in bed with Russia?

00:33:51.660 It all goes to, well, maybe Roger Stone was being too tricky with his answers or was interfering with the process of the investigation as opposed to anything substantive.

00:34:02.100 Have I properly summed up the charges against him?

00:34:05.220 And what do you think of my theory that he's just, he likes being a wild man, but that doesn't work when you're up against Mueller?

00:34:13.200 Yeah, I think it's going to depend on what Mueller has on him.

00:34:18.080 And it's hard to tell.

00:34:19.560 This is just who Roger Stone enjoys being.

00:34:22.040 You know, unfortunately, you can't be quite as flamboyant in prison and it might change his reactions, some of his responses.

00:34:29.540 I don't know how to explain it.

00:34:30.580 Yeah. All right. Well, I won't, I won't ask you any more mind reading questions about Roger Stone, but I have one more question for you about Donald Trump.

00:34:39.240 Because today, at least from my vantage point way up north here in Canada, it looked like he caved on the government partial shutdown.

00:34:48.700 He basically said, OK, we'll fund it.

00:34:51.260 And yeah, I don't need anything in return.

00:34:54.780 Am I poorly briefed on that?

00:34:56.600 What's going on with Trump?

00:34:59.260 It's hard to know.

00:35:00.580 It's hard to know.

00:35:01.700 It could, on the one hand, be a smart move that gives him more political cover to declare a national emergency at the end of three weeks, taking some of the pressure off with the government shutdown.

00:35:12.000 On the other hand, it could be a complete cave.

00:35:14.560 Politically, it is a cave.

00:35:15.560 I mean, Pelosi said she wouldn't open the government.

00:35:19.340 She wouldn't open the, she wouldn't fund the wall.

00:35:21.560 There would be no discussion of border security until the government was opened.

00:35:24.580 Trump said he was not going to sign any budget that didn't fund the wall while he's going to sign a continuing resolution that doesn't fund the wall.

00:35:30.420 She got her way here for only three weeks. 0.79

00:35:34.920 I think that Congress has really failed here.

00:35:37.560 Republicans are terrified of the media and Democrats don't want to fund any sort of barrier while Trump is in office because he'll get the credit for it.

00:35:45.380 I'm pretty disgusted by it.

00:35:47.840 I think a lot of people are.

00:35:49.240 This is a partial cave.

00:35:50.940 This could be a total cave, but it's a total cave this round.

00:35:56.660 But Trump says that the Democrats have committed to border security that would include a physical barrier.

00:36:01.920 I've just seen news now, as you and I are speaking, that Pelosi has refused to answer whether there'll be a physical barrier on the wall.

00:36:08.580 So she won't even confirm the terms of the deal.

00:36:11.460 If that's the case, then this is a complete cave.

00:36:15.420 And then the only way to resolve it is for Trump to declare a national emergency, which is a bad solution, but maybe the only way to get the wall built.

00:36:22.040 It's bad because it creates a bad precedent, although this is legal and Obama's use of executive power was not legal.

00:36:28.740 It will be challenged in the court.

00:36:30.300 So who knows if the wall will ever actually be built.

00:36:32.220 And it sets a bad precedent because Democrats will invent national emergencies to do what they want to do when they have the White House back again someday.

00:36:39.640 Very thoughtful words.

00:36:41.100 Well, thank you very much, Joel.

00:36:42.620 That's Joel Pollack, the senior editor at large of Breitbart.com.

00:36:46.680 He joins us live from their world headquarters in California.

00:36:51.520 Stay with us.

00:36:52.640 More ahead.

00:37:03.920 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about Venezuela.

00:37:06.700 Deborah writes,

00:37:07.820 The fact that Erdogan of Turkey is getting involved is not good.

00:37:10.520 I'm hoping and praying that the people of Venezuela remove the shackles of communism and free their people. 0.76

00:37:15.220 Yeah, what I've learned from Joseph Humeyer and Fernando Gonzalez and the other people we've spoken to about Venezuela over the years is Maduro is a bit of a puppet.

00:37:26.740 There is this whole apparatus around him, the Cubans, the Iranians. 0.83

00:37:31.540 It's crazy to me that Iran has really colonized Venezuela for a decade. 0.94

00:37:36.320 So, yeah, I hope they're free.

00:37:38.580 They're not free yet.

00:37:40.260 They're almost free, but that's like saying I almost caught my plane.

00:37:44.160 Either you did or you didn't.

00:37:46.600 And they're not free yet, so let's hope.

00:37:49.860 Liza writes,

00:37:51.040 I hope Venezuela can find a solution for the people.

00:37:53.080 I remember when it was a prosperous country, and it is chilling to see how far it has fallen in a generation.

00:37:57.820 Canada is well on its way down the same path.

00:38:00.820 Well, God forbid that's true, but it's true.

00:38:03.400 I mean, Venezuela was so wealthy.

00:38:05.880 Argentina was so wealthy.

00:38:08.080 These were the hopes for the future.

00:38:10.420 But then Marxism and strong man, it's just so sad.

00:38:14.920 But hopefully, Jair Bolsonaro and now, by the way, I should tell you, the new de facto interim president of Venezuela, he's not a right winger like Bolsonaro.

00:38:24.140 In fact, his party is part of an international league of parties that includes the British-UK Labor Party.

00:38:32.720 So he's no right winger, but let's call him a liberal.

00:38:38.220 He's against the communist, brutal Leninist Maduro.

00:38:42.420 So I'm rooting for him, even though he's a socialist.

00:38:46.780 Peter writes,

00:38:47.460 Yes, I'm happy for the people of Venezuela.

00:38:49.760 I am, too.

00:38:50.460 I mean, I have to tell you, I really felt like there was this Berlin Wall moment.

00:38:55.700 I hope I wasn't foolish for feeling that way.

00:38:58.240 I don't want America to send, what, an aircraft carrier, an invasion?

00:39:01.380 That would be a disaster.

00:39:02.980 But I want the world to do something to help when 32 million people in our hemisphere who have some common values with us and were once free.

00:39:12.920 And I just feel like if we put trillions of dollars into the basket case called Afghanistan, and how many lives did we sacrifice there?

00:39:22.420 And for what?

00:39:22.880 I'm sorry.

00:39:23.500 I'm sorry.

00:39:23.900 Tell me for what.

00:39:26.000 Almost exactly the same population, about 30, 35 million people in Afghanistan as in Venezuela.

00:39:31.660 Ought we not to lift a finger for them?

00:39:33.800 I think we should.

00:39:35.120 Well, let's end the show there and end the week there.

00:39:37.400 I hope you enjoyed it.

00:39:38.680 But if you haven't been to StandWithTheRebel.com, may I recommend you go there?

00:39:43.420 Because we had some crazy news yesterday about the government.

00:39:47.680 Once we filed our appeal of Rachel Notley's censorship of us, the government said,

00:39:51.280 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:39:51.940 Can you guys not appeal to a real court?

00:39:54.180 Yeah, we didn't really mean to convict you.

00:39:56.140 We were just brainstorming.

00:39:58.060 I know you think I'm making that up.

00:39:59.860 Go to StandWithTheRebel.com, and you'll see the letter from the government.

00:40:03.020 It is unbelievable.

00:40:04.440 So that's worth checking out if you haven't already.

00:40:06.660 Until Monday, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,

00:40:10.740 good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

00:40:12.840 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - January 26, 2019

“Kingston youth” charged with terrorism — but Justin Trudeau warns against “fear mongering over immigration”

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