Rebel News Podcast - Manitoba election called — and social media censorship begins (Guest： Marty Gold)

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00:01:09.980 A looming election, Facebook censorship, and an attempted deplatforming of a Jewish speaker,

00:01:16.780 all in Manitoba. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:01:25.940 The writ has just dropped in Manitoba. The 42nd general election in Manitoba has been called by

00:01:46.320 Conservative Premier Brian Pallister. Manitobans go to the polls on September 10th, 2019, a full year and

00:01:54.840 one month sooner than scheduled, with the Conservative government saying they have already fulfilled

00:02:01.720 their promises from the last election, and now they're seeking a new mandate from the people.

00:02:07.380 What does this election in Manitoba mean for the rest of the country as we approach a federal election?

00:02:15.460 Then, what happens when you're a small, independent journalist doing the work the mainstream media

00:02:22.600 just completely refuses to do? And it's happening during the Manitoba election cycle.

00:02:28.580 And then Facebook arbitrarily censors you and calls you fake news. What sort of recourse do you even

00:02:34.300 have? Then, in Winnipeg, a controversial pro-Israel speaker was very nearly deplatformed.

00:02:40.980 And the near deplatforming came from a surprising place. Amazingly, one reporter in Manitoba

00:02:46.940 was on the beat for all of these stories. My guest tonight is independent Winnipeg journalist

00:02:53.120 Marty Gold to break down the Manitoba election and so much more in an interview we recorded yesterday afternoon.

00:03:16.940 Joining me now from his home in Winnipeg is Marty Gold. Marty Gold is the editor-in-chief of the J.ca.

00:03:26.720 Hey, Marty. Thanks for coming on the show. We've got a ton of things to talk about.

00:03:31.680 It's busy, yeah.

00:03:32.840 All sorts of different issues, issues that are important to our Rebel viewers and I'm sure to J.ca readers.

00:03:40.280 But first, big news out of Winnipeg. Big news out of Manitoba. Election's been called.

00:03:50.640 I think this is important for Canadians as a whole because Manitoba was the first, I guess, swing back

00:03:58.740 to conservatism. It started the pendulum coming back the other way. And so I'm a conservative.

00:04:07.800 I'd love to find out that Manitoba stays conservative. Why don't you give us a little bit

00:04:15.380 of analysis on what some of the issues are in Manitoba in this next election?

00:04:21.760 Sure. Well, I'll start off with the campaign kickoff. It was a waiting game. Premier Palastro's

00:04:27.040 going to the polls more than a year early. It's somewhat been controversial. His reasoning

00:04:33.880 was the next year's Manitoba's 150th anniversary. He did not want an election to seem like it

00:04:39.300 was a government in power. He was catapulting itself by using the pedestal of anniversary

00:04:47.560 celebrations. I don't remember what the phrase is for 150, but it's something I'm sure I can't

00:04:52.340 pronounce.

00:04:52.560 And so he went early. And he announced well in advance. He went to the lieutenant governor

00:04:58.440 and the writ was dropped yesterday afternoon. I just came, as we take this, I came back from

00:05:03.720 the Liberal launch, which is the Liberal Party led by Dougal Lamont. I've written a couple

00:05:09.900 of articles about him lately in my secular life where I'm still covering politics. In fact,

00:05:14.760 both elections here in Manitoba. And their major announcement today for their campaign was

00:05:20.260 like all green all the time. They want to put grass, natural grass on the Red River floodways

00:05:31.540 that you can then seed the grass. They want every Manitoban to plant five trees. I just came

00:05:39.240 from this. Like, it's not like I'm not remembering properly. It was a very unusual because what

00:05:46.540 they're doing is they're trying to outgreen the Green Party without having talked analytically

00:05:52.200 with anybody there with Lamont or any of the candidates that I know. Some of these people

00:05:57.300 I've known for a number of years, campaign workers, etc. But it seems to me that they've

00:06:00.900 decided the room for growth is not trying to bash the NDP necessarily or take on the NDP.

00:06:06.040 There's only a certain number of conservative voters they think that can move. And so they've

00:06:11.400 decided they're going after the Green Party. The Green Party, although it would be very uphill for

00:06:16.480 the Green Party to elect members here, their leader, James Badom, is running against NDP leader

00:06:21.100 Wab Kanu in Fort Rouge. It's the fourth different riding Badom has tried to get, has tried to get

00:06:26.460 elected. And they, of course, are running an entirely green campaign. But they haven't put out an actual

00:06:31.400 platform, costed things out. Do with Lamont, the Liberals, thinking this is an opportunity,

00:06:35.800 put out a platform today that included, of course, carbon tax, Manitoba being carbon neutral

00:06:41.440 by 2030, the usual federal line. Not any mention of the presser about, you know, business, small

00:06:48.860 business, taxation, vague passing reference to education. But they think that the only room

00:06:53.840 for them to grow votes and steal some seats beyond the three they have and one incumbent up north has

00:06:59.740 left, I don't know if they're going to hold that seat, is to go after the green vote, which is now

00:07:03.700 somewhere probably, I think, probably around 12 percent, maybe. I haven't seen a recent poll,

00:07:08.760 but I guess about 10, 12 percent. Certainly in some ridings, Wolseley, they came very close last

00:07:15.140 time against the NDP. The incumbents quit, so they might take a seat, a green seat here in the

00:07:18.580 legislature. The Liberals are aiming in that direction, aligning themselves with the federal

00:07:23.300 government. I'm not sure that that is the smartest move, but this is right now how they're

00:07:30.880 steering the ship. The NDP, it's interesting in that the front runners, the opposition,

00:07:35.380 Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition, the New Democratic Party, led by Wab Kanu. Kanu is, you know, he's

00:07:41.660 very realistic that he's got a tough time. There's so much negative said about him, about

00:07:46.860 his past, about the difference between what he wrote in his book and what he made in other

00:07:51.420 statements. Some people think that it's kind of mean-spirited, that you don't believe somebody

00:07:56.880 can change, but ultimately it was just a year or two ago that his former spouse asserted

00:08:03.220 domestic violence that he outright denies. Nobody's ever talked to the other couple that

00:08:08.760 was there that night about the mood and such. He can't get past it. Immediately at the start

00:08:15.720 of the campaign, it's all about him, his wife, who's a doctor, and they're two small kids.

00:08:22.660 He's got, I believe, older kids from his previous marriage. So they're trying to recast the misogynist

00:08:29.040 rapper Wab Kanu as an erudite former academic family man, and ultimately there are some people

00:08:37.120 that aren't going to buy it. The Liberals know that. I don't know really where they think

00:08:43.320 they have growth. The NDP is looking mostly to recapture seats that they lost in the last

00:08:47.580 election. Thompson, one of the writings in Brandon, I apologize. I don't remember Brandon

00:08:53.820 East or Brandon West. They think they can scoop back. There's also been some redistribution.

00:08:58.500 The Tories have had to move candidates around like fish out of water. One example, Shannon

00:09:03.120 Martin, who represented Morris, which is 40 miles to the south of Winnipeg, and a very,

00:09:09.460 I think, Mennonites and maybe Ukrainian kind of old white, old stock white, rural riding in 0.74

00:09:16.420 Manitoba that probably would fit in in Alberta, frankly. And he's out running in a new riding.

00:09:22.520 They've carved out this kind of pie shit called Kildonan that's half traditional Jewish, Ukrainian, 0.94

00:09:28.500 Polish, I think Filipino garden city, one of the first suburbs in Winnipeg and sort of North 0.97

00:09:33.660 Endish. And then there's all this rural area that's not farmland. It's just like old country

00:09:38.480 roads with big, you know, lots. And there's so much. It's all discordant in terms of what's

00:09:45.660 important in the riding. And then you've taken a guy from the other side of the world, as far as

00:09:50.540 what it makes concern, and dropping him in. And Shannon's a great guy and a good MLA, but very

00:09:55.720 tough for the Tories to hold that that number count, I think. Still, though, no sense that the

00:10:03.300 NDP, that the Tories could possibly lose enough seats for the NDP to gain traction. The question

00:10:07.180 is, will the Liberals win more than four seats, get party status and added funding? And will the Green

00:10:11.880 Party have a breakthrough early in the campaign? I've already begun my coverage, and I've continued

00:10:17.420 to stay focused on, you know, Lamont has said some interesting things about the conservative

00:10:22.760 government. And he's caught on to problems that I've identified about the Winnipeg Regional Health

00:10:28.640 Authority, all the dirty needles around Winnipeg. Lamont was very complimentary to my story, actually,

00:10:35.360 when I interviewed him, saying that proper data collection is important for policy, that

00:10:41.060 it doesn't surprise him that WHA was out by 1,200%. And how many used needles will be found

00:10:46.300 on the streets of Winnipeg? 1,200%. They estimated last year, they told me in an email last October

00:10:51.340 between 5,000 and 10,000. The Bear Clan alone, in public service, says they're going to be picking

00:10:56.660 up 140,000, 180,000 this year, whatever. So I've made some news with that. In fact, last

00:11:06.620 week, that probably is something, finding a city councillor, an NDP councillor, who agreed

00:11:12.280 to do good Lamont. The city is suffering because of poor data collection and poor free needle

00:11:18.420 practices, harm reduction practices. And so I had a North End councillor, Ross Eadie, chiming

00:11:23.080 in, along with Dougal Lamont, St. Boniface. I just published a story on my secular location.

00:11:30.200 I guess we're going to talk about that St. Boniface had a 92.9% increase in property crimes

00:11:36.240 in five years, from 2014 to 2018. And it didn't impact the civic election in 2018. That number

00:11:41.700 wasn't known. But it will impact, I think, it's very possible that people are going to

00:11:46.460 look around, ask what that number was the last five years, the previous five years, and

00:11:50.400 make it a provincial election issue at the doorstep. And probably federal, too. One of

00:11:54.520 the federal candidates chimed in on my story today. So I've been digging away at that. And

00:11:59.080 there aren't a lot of economic issues. There's a lot of disparity issues and education issues. But

00:12:03.440 ultimately, health care, meth addiction, the disposition of a building that's in a contract

00:12:08.760 dispute and sitting mothballed, and it's got like 10 detox beds at 800 Adele. Liberals agreeing

00:12:13.700 that this should be looked at. And I'll have a story coming out that there's an elected MLA

00:12:16.820 also agrees with that. So these things are, are, are, are things that are motivating people

00:12:22.360 to ask questions. Not enough, I don't think any of the swing of government, but might make

00:12:25.820 the conservative government uncomfortable about some of their policy positions. They

00:12:28.780 may have to loosen up, change their thinking a little bit on a few things. Premier Pollister

00:12:32.200 not famous for that, but it could be that he's going to hear the music to some extent.

00:12:37.920 Yeah, you're, you're really digging into these issues that are affecting, like, especially

00:12:43.420 meth and opioid addiction. They're affecting city centers all across the country. Um, and

00:12:50.680 especially with regard to supervised injection sites and which we don't have here yet. And

00:12:55.800 which has been a battle both provincially and at the civic level, the mayor wants it and

00:12:59.320 the premier is very entirely resistant. Well, and you know, you're reporting is digging up

00:13:04.780 some of the problems around supervised injection sites and you don't even have them yet. For

00:13:09.180 example, needle collection, you don't even have the supervised injection site. People are pushing

00:13:14.680 for supervised injection sites and yet you're still exhibiting the problems that are caused by

00:13:19.500 supervised injection sites. Really you have a de facto supervised injection site where there's

00:13:24.060 people gathered. And that's what you said is that, is that the, the harm reduction is failing in the

00:13:28.280 needle, in the collection site. And I got to have a story coming up in about a week or two. I still

00:13:32.640 have material from the regional health authority about their data, their, their processes, where they

00:13:36.780 didn't even meet their own standards, their own criteria to provide, to provide what's called

00:13:40.420 medically proper surveillance, uh, on this subject. But, uh, you know, um, whereas my coverage has

00:13:48.120 gotten attention, I've been on this for a year, starting with Manitoba post and now with, uh, uh,

00:13:52.940 an old blog that I revived, uh, the acronym for the great Canadian talk show, tgcts.blogspot.com.

00:13:59.340 Um, and I've been on this case like a beat almost for, for like almost a year now. And people are,

00:14:05.740 are realizing that there's, you can't just la-di-da away. And it, uh, it, it, it seemed last 0.99

00:14:11.480 week that story, um, uh, about, uh, with the city council now chiming in with the liberal leader

00:14:17.760 that, uh, I pushed some of the wrong buttons, so to speak. And, uh, I'm, I'm in the middle of a bit

00:14:24.040 of a battle now because of my reporting, which I'm not happy to be put in that position. It's,

00:14:29.320 it's really unfair, but sometimes that's what happens to us independent types that are on the

00:14:34.020 libertarian side of the equation. Yeah. That's the next thing that I wanted to talk to you about.

00:14:39.920 Boy, it's so funny how, uh, just talking with you, we can go from A to B and C and all these issues

00:14:47.160 seem not really remotely connected, but they end up being connected that way because of your reporting,

00:14:52.900 you and I suspect on the issue of, uh, needles and crime, you've been censored by Facebook and your

00:15:02.580 stories are really making a difference. They're garnering, uh, uh, political attention. And yet,

00:15:09.600 because you're being censored by Facebook, that information can't get out to the voters

00:15:14.400 that need it and the voters that need to press those same politicians at the door for solutions. 0.55

00:15:18.820 This is a very weird circumstance. The story that I referenced with, again,

00:15:23.560 Councillor Edie from Winnipeg, he's a blind guy that I've known for many years. Uh, we're on very

00:15:28.340 opposite sides of the fence politically. We're both North end boys and we have very good frank

00:15:31.920 discussions about our neighborhood and our traditional neighborhood and what's goes on in

00:15:35.800 the city. Uh, the story last week was North end counselor echoes liberal leaders' skepticism

00:15:41.880 about WRHA harm reduction free needle program. I definitely believe street connections has not

00:15:48.820 handled their program very well over the years on the collection side. And then I went into some

00:15:53.240 numbers and, and, uh, spoke with, uh, uh, uh, uh, revived some comments from, uh, from, uh, uh,

00:15:59.280 due with Lamont, the liberal leader, an hour, as I'm sitting at my desk at this desk,

00:16:03.220 an hour after I put the story up, I take, I'm on the great Canadian talk show Facebook group page

00:16:07.780 and I take a look and it has a flag on the pin post, which is there's two elections. So we're

00:16:14.180 coming back, which is, you know, the main fundraising driver post I've, I put out explaining

00:16:18.760 the background of our citizen journalism, the kinds of stories that we've broken,

00:16:23.020 why it's important that there's fewer reporters employed in Winnipeg than ever. And so it makes sense

00:16:29.200 to have somebody independent and see if the public I've looked for a hundred donors at $50 each,

00:16:35.080 which I thought was easier than 50 at a hundred, but basically $5,000 to try to raise, pay the rent,

00:16:40.080 put gas in the car, you know, uh, uh, pay the internet bill and go meet politicians face to

00:16:47.060 face, go to events, talk with the people on the street, ask the candidates tough questions. This

00:16:52.000 is what I did on radio. And this is what I did on TV too, within studio interviews, the picture

00:16:56.340 with the story with, uh, Ross Edy is from city circus TV. And this flag says this violates our

00:17:03.360 community standards, please. You know, you can delete it. And I'm like, maybe there's some way

00:17:09.140 that a fundraising, but I know people do it all the time. So that doesn't really make any sense.

00:17:13.960 And as I scroll down, I see every post only you can see it. Every post was flagged. Now my posts,

00:17:20.520 I posted on Facebook. I joined Facebook 2008. That was my main location as a website was a blog spot

00:17:27.160 location. I kept things simple. So anything from 2008 to 2011, when I then start a new website for

00:17:34.040 my TV show, none of those posts are objectionable. This can only be the eight or so stories that I

00:17:39.080 filed since the end of June. Well, they're all about drug policy. They're about political stuff.

00:17:45.240 They're about city hall in the Manitoba province. There's nothing obscene. There's no bad language.

00:17:51.120 There's no calling people names. There's no getting into debates about

00:17:54.520 the BC human rights commission. Like I thought this is all local issues. None of which are

00:18:01.120 genuinely controversial in the broader context of people's touchy feelies. Yeah. And if you think

00:18:09.500 this is wrong, click here and a click, why do you think it's wrong? I am filing news stories. I've been

00:18:14.620 doing this for years, but then you read that they won't actually respond to you. This helps with their

00:18:19.200 algorithms. This helps with their processes. So I'm shut out from my main identity site. You know,

00:18:27.400 this is my identity. And when you type it in, as I had somebody do today to Facebook with our messenger

00:18:34.620 window or whatever, it comes up that it is not a permitted URL. I've been banned. Now the federal

00:18:41.860 liberals have made a big deal about fake news, right? And they want fake news banned from Facebook and

00:18:48.360 other online platforms. But what nobody's thought of what happens when real news gets banned and

00:18:53.600 that's what's happened. And so my, uh, where I am, my office is, uh, and has been for many years in

00:18:59.980 St. Boniface. One of the reasons I ended up doing a lot of stories about St. Boniface and especially

00:19:03.160 because the crime rate needles here and the, the liberal leaders represents here, et cetera.

00:19:08.520 And, uh, I go to the MP's office. Now the MP here is Danny Vandal. He's a foreign professional

00:19:13.960 boxer. I've known Danny before he got into politics in the kind of rivalry that, you know,

00:19:19.200 wrestlers and boxers will have. We were in a documentary together about the Canadian champion,

00:19:24.540 Al Sparks, a few years ago. Uh, Danny's the kind of guy that even from when he was at city hall,

00:19:30.360 uh, I, I do not have to agree with people politically on everything, uh, and can still

00:19:34.840 have a good relationship with them and be friends with them. And this is the first time I've ever to

00:19:37.920 go to Danny Vandal's office. And, and I've gone with him with community organizations with regards

00:19:42.300 to victims rights and some other initiatives, uh, and, and try to move things along with the feds.

00:19:48.380 But this is the first time I've gone for me and said, my business and your writing,

00:19:53.740 I need your help. He wasn't there. His, one of his assistants was, it's very familiar with me and my

00:19:57.880 work and, and knew about the stories I'm doing. They said, well, we've never heard about this.

00:20:03.420 And yeah, Facebook is kind of tough to talk to and okay, we're gonna, we'll see what we can do.

00:20:07.900 Well, I told them that I'm going to talk with all the Winnipeg liberal members of parliament. I know,

00:20:15.580 I met all of them. I'm, I know four of them particularly well, Kevin Lamroom. I've known

00:20:20.060 for 30 years. I'm coming Robert Falcon, who led, I know reads my stuff. He's been in my stuff. He's

00:20:25.500 been on my TV show. He's getting a call or a visit. Marianne Mahaychuk. I've known since she was in

00:20:31.260 Gary Dewar's government, uh, and, uh, was, did a number of stories about her when she was in the mining

00:20:36.060 industry. She's going to get a call. But today I called, I tried to figure out how do I get to

00:20:41.180 Jim Carr? He's very busy. I can't just walk up to him and say, Hey Jim, I've been banned from

00:20:45.900 Facebook. He's not gonna, but I knew somebody that's one of his important key people from back

00:20:51.820 in the red river college days with kick FM. And I contacted this guy. He called me immediately.

00:20:56.380 He knows I'm not calling for nothing. And I explained to him the problem that the liberals can only focus

00:21:02.220 on fake news being banned. They have to focus on real news being allowed, being given the ability

00:21:08.300 to be in the public square that the Facebook can't operate on the premise that there's no,

00:21:14.380 no appeal, no warning, no nothing. And that this is injurious while I'm covering two elections,

00:21:20.860 covering liberal candidates and liberal leaders as well as others. And, uh, I got a commitment from

00:21:26.620 that individual that he is going to look into this. I mean, they're perplexed because nobody's ever

00:21:31.020 thought of this and I'm, I'm very concerned. I'm wondering who else in the country that does

00:21:35.020 what I do. I know there's not a lot of us, but that file independent journalism, uh, stories

00:21:39.900 somewhere between the realm of, you know, their mom's basement and, uh, you know, you know, like,

00:21:44.380 uh, bloggers in Minneapolis, somewhere in the middle there, there's people that maybe,

00:21:49.340 you know, get the rent paid. Maybe they have a better business going. Maybe that maybe they,

00:21:52.940 they may, I don't imagine maybe somebody, the rebels been banned from Facebook on the same premise.

00:21:56.940 I don't know, but I'm very disturbed about it. You could see that I'm disturbed. I've gone through

00:22:02.220 this once where I was censored in Manitoba and where it was backhanded and where it was completely

00:22:07.660 unfair with no process. And, uh, and, and I'm not going to put up with it. I'm absolutely not going

00:22:13.180 to put up with it. So the other liberal MLAs will be hearing from me. I'll be a little less worked up

00:22:17.740 and I'm encouraged that the office of Dan Mandel and the office of the honorable Jim Carr

00:22:21.420 are recognized immediately. The importance of the kind of journalism that I do,

00:22:25.740 the kind of reporting and investigations I do. And I'm hoping this is resolved.

00:22:30.380 In the meantime, I've had to resort to a backup blog that Facebook hasn't banned yet to get my

00:22:36.460 stories out. Otherwise I'm still posting on my original blog spot location and I'm going to keep

00:22:41.340 it coming. I'm not giving up. No, of course not. And you know, it is funny that the liberals didn't

00:22:47.340 think of the flip side of their, uh, promises to censor fake news. And that is that everybody

00:22:53.660 can get caught up in being accused of being fake news because it seems to me that fake news these

00:23:00.220 days is just news you disagree with. And in your instance, the people who are probably flagging your

00:23:08.620 work are likely far left wing activists or the harm reduction crowd who claim to care about the poor

00:23:17.100 and poor neighborhoods. This petrifies them because the harm reduction, um, community, they've never,

00:23:24.220 they, they say the most outlandish things, which again, I'll be getting into in the next month.

00:23:30.540 This includes people that want the federal government to pay to supply clean drugs to everybody,

00:23:37.980 including heroin. Now listen, when they start including math and say, they say that, that,

00:23:44.860 that all drugs are, it's moral relativism. The biggest, the bane of, of, of our modern times

00:23:50.380 is moral relativism because we know cultures aren't equal. We know people's conduct when they're dropped

00:23:55.580 fish out of water is not going to be equal. We know they're not equal outcomes in sports. Uh,

00:24:00.940 and this is another example where the harm reduction crowd, they don't want to be accountable for

00:24:06.780 handing out a 2 million needles in Winnipeg and you know, 20,000. Well, that's only 1%.

00:24:12.940 That's 21,000 damn needles on the streets. Yeah. What kind of morons are these that are 0.99

00:24:18.460 dictating health policy and getting away with it? And I'm the first person I think that's challenged 1.00

00:24:23.500 this locally. I know I am. I'm the only person who's dived into the numbers. And so you, when we talk

00:24:29.100 about this privately and there are others that agree that, you know, I get that story up where a city

00:24:33.500 counselor whose ward is affected is saying, there's something wrong here. And an hour later,

00:24:38.220 my story's banned from Facebook. What garbage. And isn't that convenient? Now we've talked about 0.99

00:24:45.660 your secular work. Let's talk about, um, the other work that you do at the j.ca. Um, you've got some

00:24:54.460 news breaking over there. Um, I I'm proud to say that I was, um, one of the first people who sort of

00:25:01.260 caught you on your upswing at the j.ca. Um, yeah. And, uh, you've got some news happening over

00:25:08.140 there. Um, I, as, as we've just illustrated, I spent many years, uh, uh, doing, you know,

00:25:16.220 what we call secular reporting. I wasn't very involved in the Jewish community. I may be on

00:25:19.660 radio or TV. I interviewed my sister on TV once she runs a Jewish funeral chapel and I did a half hour

00:25:25.100 with her on that. I was very proud to, but generally I didn't do a lot of stories about Judaism,

00:25:29.340 stories about Israel. If something came up, especially when I was on radio,

00:25:32.300 something on a campus, Israel apartheid week, of course I'd get whoever on from the, 0.94

00:25:36.620 the campus from Hillel or whatever, but I've not been a very, just like my rest so-called

00:25:41.340 wrestling career. I've not been, you know, emphasized my Jewish background. Uh, uh,

00:25:47.660 I just want to point out the macho man shirts. I did a couple of shows with the macho man's brother,

00:25:51.980 Leaping Lanny Poffo. And I do have a surprise coming out for Jewish New Year for Rosh Hashanah. 0.68

00:25:56.940 The first ever interview with Lanny Poffo about being raised, uh, in a half Jewish family.

00:26:01.820 Yeah. They had him and Randy had Jewish grandparents. Nobody had ever talked to him

00:26:05.660 about the Jewish influence in their lives. So I just wanted to mention that anyways,

00:26:09.900 that's where I managed to, again, you know, combine hanging around wrestling,

00:26:13.180 being secular and with something that was unique. And I hope it's going to attract a lot of positive

00:26:18.060 vibes from people. Uh, but about six months ago, I, and of course, again, just secular work,

00:26:23.900 discovered the infiltration, the attempted infiltration of far left, radical Marxist

00:26:28.380 activists, uh, into the Winnipeg community by planting speakers. And, and what's if not now?

00:26:34.780 Well, I had to tell them what if not now was, and they're even more vile now than they were five or

00:26:38.700 six months ago. And so I've gotten deeper and deeper into this with my publisher, Ron East.

00:26:43.020 Ronnie's father trained me and, and Ron, uh, uh, uh, in media, in journalism and in matters relating

00:26:50.620 to Israel and international affairs and counter-terrorism and I, and all that stuff. And so now

00:26:55.500 all these years later, I've been called back in a service for my own community because anti-Semitism

00:27:00.860 is running, uh, at high rates all over the country. Uh, uh, Toronto, there's been like three incidents

00:27:09.820 lately of children being assaulted. A woman was accosted by, uh, uh, a pro-Palestinian really,

00:27:17.660 uh, really aggressive, uh, BDS guy, uh, just yesterday. Um, Toronto's taking over its own

00:27:24.220 security. There's all these things going on and we're trying to figure out in Winnipeg where there's

00:27:27.660 no security service. There's no awareness of this. There's no counter. There's been four or five straight

00:27:33.500 information pickets, protest marches, anti-Zionist, anti-Israel, pro-BDS with no response from the

00:27:40.860 Jewish Federation at all, nothing at all. Uh, in the course of this and trying to create awareness

00:27:48.700 in our community of what the dangers are and in the general community too, where the threats are

00:27:51.980 coming from, we brought in Lauren Isaacs, who's the director, uh, Hey Root Canada out of Toronto.

00:27:58.140 And, uh, Lauren, uh, is a 23 year old girl who is, uh, became famous in April, internet famous for

00:28:05.500 posing on the Temple Mount with her Israeli flag, looking a root flag. Uh, Lauren came in, 0.81

00:28:11.420 she is unbelievable. If there's a guest that I can recommend, uh, you or one of the other hosts,

00:28:17.340 the rebel have on sometime, she knows her stuff. And so we brought her in for a seminar in River Heights,

00:28:25.340 a Jewish neighborhood in Winnipeg called the state of Jewish hate. Uh, and the, the focus was on how

00:28:29.980 the radical, the progressive left, uh, were entirely radical progressive as a misnomer, uh,

00:28:35.500 that progressive Jewish activists are fueling antisemitism. We see evidence of it all the time. Um, 0.91

00:28:45.500 even in scheduling the event, my publisher Ron East gets a phone call one morning from somebody from

00:28:53.660 the community center who says, uh, yeah, your event, I need more information. Well,

00:28:58.380 it's a meeting about Jewish med, you know, Jewish community matters. Yeah. But what's it about?

00:29:02.780 Well, it's about antisemitism. Oh yeah. Okay. Uh, we'll have to refund you your, your deposit and

00:29:07.500 we'll have to cancel it. And Ron says, well, what do you mean you got complaints? And she goes,

00:29:11.900 well, yeah, we got complaints and, and blah, blah. I says, well, I need, I get to see the complaints.

00:29:17.020 I need this in writing. We're not canceled until now. Of course he phones me. I get a hold of the

00:29:22.860 city councilor, John Orlico, who's in terms of where my residence is. That's my counselor and

00:29:28.540 John Gerard, former liberal leader that represents the writing. Uh, Ron goes on Facebook, a number of

00:29:35.820 people phone and email this community center. She phones him back two hours later as we, we had a video

00:29:42.780 of this on the j.ca website and says, listen, you aren't canceled. It's just under review. Tell

00:29:47.340 people to stop calling. He said, so we're not, not canceled. We're under review. I'm not going

00:29:51.340 to tell people to stop calling at this point. It becomes famous on the internet and now Nazis and

00:29:57.420 neo-Nazis and BDS nudniks and haters start diving in on this. Uh, in the meantime, Ron never got a call

00:30:07.660 from anybody about the disposition of this due diligence. You got one more message. It's a dude,

00:30:12.540 the club's doing its due diligence. Now, listen, there's an event at a community center in

00:30:16.700 goddamn Winnipeg. Okay. In the summertime, you know, what's the due diligence for any other 0.99

00:30:21.020 event that doesn't involve Jews discussing anti-Semitic threats in a Jewish neighborhood.

00:30:25.500 Let's say Sheila was in Winnipeg and, uh, and, and therefore had, it was going to have a wedding 0.76

00:30:30.300 social. Do you have those in Alberta socials? Sure. We just sit on a tailgate and get drunk,

00:30:36.060 but whatever. So what's the due diligence for wedding social? Are you having salami or bologna?

00:30:42.300 Are the pickles going to be in spears or, or, or, or in, in, in, in chips? You know,

00:30:47.740 are you going to have one hot mustard too, or just regular mustard? What due diligence?

00:30:52.300 We're bringing in a speaker. She's a national figure. She's a leader of Jewish youth.

00:30:57.260 And we're talking about things that worry us. We showed up building, having alternate plans with a

00:31:03.340 powered speaker system to do it outdoors. We go there, the door is open. It's all set up. Nobody

00:31:09.260 told us we were in, we were in. So the event was had, was set up, not set up for, um, you know,

00:31:16.860 huge attendance. Cause there was another event. I can't say competing. It was a pre-scheduled event,

00:31:20.780 a memorial for the bombing in Argentina of the community center there that night. This is when

00:31:25.100 Lauren could come in. So 200 people, whatever, 250 Jewish people go to the community, the Jewish

00:31:29.420 community center, 30 come to ours and about 15 more came after the other event. But we set it up

00:31:34.620 with our partners, the Winnipeg Jewish business council for a Facebook live stream. It had 1800 views.

00:31:41.820 This was the point was to get the message out. And you know, it's a different game nowadays.

00:31:46.860 Uh, it was successful. Uh, but some things are going on in the background.

00:31:52.540 Uh, after the event, a couple of articles were written in the Jewish posted news. That is the,

00:31:58.780 what Ron calls the schedule newspaper. There is a column and an article. Now, neither story

00:32:05.020 mentioned the Winnipeg Jewish business council is a sponsor. They both implied that the only audience

00:32:10.860 was the 30 people in attendance when it started, as opposed to the 1800 that watched. And so the

00:32:16.300 president of the Jewish business council, Matt Ostroff, he wrote a very polite email to Bernie

00:32:21.020 Bellen, the, uh, publisher and, uh, owner or part owner of the, uh, of the Jewish posted news

00:32:26.780 saying, look, you left us out. There's details you got wrong. Uh, Lauren's speech addressed these

00:32:33.900 important points, including the dangers of BDS and Bernie's a lefty. So he's got BDS friends,

00:32:38.700 right? The response, the official response from the Jewish posted news was your letters too long

00:32:43.740 and you aren't a subscriber by a subscriber and I'll consider publishing it. Now I've been around

00:32:48.380 journalism for a long time, but I've never heard where printing a correction depended on whether

00:32:52.700 somebody paid you. Holy, I know now it got better. That was, uh, you know, with regards,

00:33:03.500 I don't remember specifically, I think Matt sort of referenced both Myron love story and Bernie's

00:33:07.580 column in terms of, and neither of them mentioned the Winnipeg Jewish business council that, uh,

00:33:14.060 uh, is their name was right on the event, right? Get your tickets in advance thing. I mean,

00:33:18.860 you couldn't have missed them if you're paying attention and I understand why they would be

00:33:22.860 displeased. Here they are brain. They do events from time to time. And here they are helping us

00:33:27.100 present on a, on a crucial topic where there are teenage girls who spoke at, in the Q and a talking

00:33:34.940 about being intimidated in schools. God knows what schools are doing about this in Winnipeg,

00:33:39.500 Manitoba anyways, or in Canada about being intimidated by kids that are, have this very

00:33:45.180 left leaning or pro Palestinian or whatever perspective. And they're aggressive about it.

00:33:52.300 Now our security chief, a former idea veteran, Richard Weiss, he sends his own email specifically

00:33:57.580 about Myron love story to Bernie Bellin. It left out the co-sponsor. This wasn't accurate. That wasn't

00:34:03.900 accurate. It was about more so based on, on not just Lex Rothberg. And if not now, that's where this

00:34:09.340 all started. But this was about all these other things that have gone on, including the attempt

00:34:13.980 by Jew, by, uh, uh, uh, independent Jewish voices, uh, the Jewish market, the mostly Jewish, uh, far left

00:34:21.020 Marxists that pretend to be able to speak for the Jewish community with, uh, no more than two and a half

00:34:25.180 percent or 400 people that are on their side of things. Uh, they wanted, they opposed the Canadian

00:34:31.100 government adopting the, uh, uh, uh, definitions for antisemitism, the IHRA definitions, because this

00:34:40.700 precludes BDS next. First of all, it precludes BDS because it's an attack on the Jewish state. No

00:34:45.180 different than Nazi Germany prohibiting trade with Jewish businesses. Uh, so this like cuts into their

00:34:52.380 game really bad because now they got to zip their lip about a lot of stuff. Yeah. Right.

00:34:56.620 Um, anyways, Richard writes his letter. He says, you know, you got, some things are wrong. It should

00:35:07.740 be corrected. And the first response he gets is, oh, so you read something in the shuttle paper,

00:35:13.420 go shove it. Now, Richard, this from Bernie Bell. And so Richard, and again, I did a video interview

00:35:19.260 with him. That's now on our, our site. And I, and Richard said, kid, are you sure it's your answer?

00:35:24.940 Cause he's at, you know, you're asking for corrections to articles in a newspaper and you're

00:35:29.740 telling a guy who was there, who was an IDF veteran who, who, and we needed security, added

00:35:35.180 security precautions because of, of threats from neo-Nazis beak in their gums, uh, about Lauren

00:35:42.700 Isaacs and, and, and, and, and not just neo-Nazi. Some of this came again from the pro-Palestinian side,

00:35:47.740 cause she's rather unpopular with certain Islamist extremists. So we have all have to arrange our own

00:35:53.740 security and position at the room and everything, which we're glad to do and competent at doing.

00:35:58.860 But you think you'd, IDF veteran says, Hey, I'd like a correction. This was,

00:36:02.140 this topic of anti-Semitism was addressed in a certain manner and very important. Don't leave

00:36:06.140 out details and don't get the details wrong. He says, are you sure? Shove it. You sure?

00:36:10.940 And Bernie Bell's response was, can I say it? Can I say it? Oh yeah.

00:36:15.420 Yeah. You and all your idiot friends. So this is how the Jewish post publisher addressed the pro 1.00

00:36:22.860 Israel community in Winnipeg. What has come out till basically now is what was going on behind

00:36:31.580 the scenes as we were trying to get the event run. Uh, you see, part of the problem is the

00:36:37.020 articles that were written in the Jewish posts and news, uh, and the, the column by Bernie Bell,

00:36:41.020 and where he said that he tried to undermine that there is any attempt to cancel the event,

00:36:45.340 that it was done as a publicity stunt. Cause he went and mentioned all of a sudden there's

00:36:48.140 publicity worldwide on United with Israel. And because of this, uh, claim that it was canceled.

00:36:53.820 And he said, well, there's no proof it was canceled. Can we say anybody say nobody really

00:36:57.100 knows, but the whole way he approaches, he's trying to undermine runs on us. Yeah. Well,

00:37:00.780 that's ridiculous. Uh, uh, and his basis of his story was never talking to run, 0.91

00:37:07.260 never talking to me. And Ron talked with my own love at the event and told him the story. So the

00:37:10.940 Jewish posts and entity knew he said, well, I talked to the director from river Heights and she

00:37:15.260 said that, you know, you were never told it was canceled. She never told you it was canceled. And

00:37:19.900 runs never talked with her. She's never phoned him. She's never called me to this day. She's never

00:37:25.580 spoken with us. She's never told us what happened with the due diligence. She's never revealed the

00:37:30.220 complaint. She's never, never called him, but she's saying what Ron was or wasn't told. And Bernie,

00:37:37.340 not realizing she's not there. It's, there's an administrator at the site. That was the one

00:37:41.820 that made the phone calls. He doesn't realize he's made another bad journalistic error and he's

00:37:46.380 using it to try to say, well, we don't really know it was canceled. The publicity stunt screw

00:37:50.300 off. Do you want a publicity stunt? Well, we'll show you guys publicity stunts. That wasn't one.

00:37:55.340 That was a genuine threat from some anti-Semite trying to stop the Jewish community in Winnipeg

00:37:59.580 from talking about the rise of anti-Semitism in our own community.

00:38:03.580 Anyways, there was a few problems with what Bernie wrote, but really there was problems with what led

00:38:09.660 up to what he wrote and what he said to people. Before the event, he nudged me a bit. He had a few

00:38:15.100 questions. Uh, that's normal part for the course. Then he said, Oh, uh, your event wasn't really,

00:38:20.460 okay. You know, why did you write that it was canceled when it wasn't? Well, I hadn't written an

00:38:23.660 article is somebody else's article, go complain to them, leave me out of it. By the time he was done,

00:38:28.860 he had at 11 o'clock at night, Israeli time tried to, as I understand, tried to contact the major,

00:38:34.860 major pro-Israel organization that had covered, written a story about this attempt to silence

00:38:39.260 Lauren Isaacs and the J.ca. At 11 at night to tell them all your stories is not accurate. And as I am

00:38:45.660 told, as I am told 11 o'clock at night, tried to get them in Israel to get Lauren Isaacs to call him

00:38:52.140 going behind my back as the media coordinator for the event to talk with our speaker

00:38:57.740 then without our knowledge the night before the event. Okay. That's, you know, pretty unusual. Then,

00:39:05.420 you know, in the events before it started, Myron came up to me, said, I have a few questions.

00:39:09.420 Bernie talked to the community center general manager and she says that the event was never

00:39:12.540 canceled. I got to stop right there, run, runs his down, tells him the story. So you can see there's

00:39:16.860 this mischief, this misinformation going on. Regardless, the event was successful. The next

00:39:23.660 day we had arranged for Lauren Isaacs, myself and Ron East in the Jewish community center,

00:39:28.620 in the Rady center. There's a cafe, Schmoozer's Cafe, delicious food. I've known the person who

00:39:34.780 operates it, the owner, since I drove cab for her dad. I've known her since she was a child. It's great

00:39:39.980 there. Nice open area. And we're sitting there, Lauren, Ron, me on one side of the table, on the

00:39:46.140 other side, two officials from Jewish Federation. I can't tell you, I know there's specific jobs.

00:39:52.940 I recognize them, but I don't know exactly what they did, but they're younger and involved in

00:39:55.900 programming, no doubt for, you know, younger people. And a rabbi from one of the congregations who

00:40:02.940 grew up next door to my grandparents. I've known him since he was, probably since he was born,

00:40:06.540 he might've been two years old and they moved here. So here we are, the pro-Jewish media,

00:40:12.140 and Lauren Isaacs, who can name off every affiliation between left-wing Jewish activist 0.96

00:40:17.660 groups, what they say, how they use the same language as Hamas, as Hezbollah, the same language

00:40:22.940 as Palestinian authorities, how they desecrate Jewish traditions, try to subvert birthright trips, 0.82

00:40:32.940 people who are learning about their own country. I mean, they're real,

00:40:36.940 real characters. She can go up and down all of them and can talk about how dangerous it is and how it can

00:40:41.340 affect Jewish students trying to go to campus just to learn things, never mind to try to act out 0.96

00:40:46.060 their Jewishness. As we're having this conversation about anti-Semitism in Winnipeg, and in, frankly,

00:40:52.300 nationally, and what can be done, in behind Rabbi Rose, like in my field of vision this way, here goes

00:40:59.020 Bernie Bellin. And he's walking with somebody, and I didn't care enough to even check. When he walks past,

00:41:03.500 he looks, you know, backwards. Now I go back, so I'm like looking at Rabbi Rose right across from me.

00:41:08.860 All of a sudden, looming in behind Rabbi Rose, standing in behind him, he's like, come back,

00:41:15.420 and then walked in a couple of feet, is Bernie Bellin. And he's pointing. And he's right in the face.

00:41:21.740 But he's not pointing at me. He's to my left at run. Now he doesn't come up to the table and say,

00:41:30.700 hey, excuse me, everybody. Sorry, I got to interrupt. Hey, you guys.

00:41:36.220 He barges into a meeting between the director of Giroud Canada and our newspaper

00:41:47.020 and Jewish Federation officials and the rabbi of the second largest congregation in the city.

00:41:53.500 And his opening line is, let me tell you something, Ron East.

00:41:58.700 Now, I'm really happy if Bernie Bellin got to live out his lifelong dream of pretending to be a wrestler.

00:42:02.860 But he didn't stop there. You better watch yourself. When somebody says, you better watch yourself.

00:42:09.500 And they're going, hey, listen, you better watch yourself. But they're saying it to you

00:42:12.140 or they're pointing their finger and they're red in the face. That's a threat.

00:42:15.180 So Ron rises up and he proceeds to unleash a combination of words that I'm sure,

00:42:20.140 this is all 1045 in the morning on a Friday in the summer with no school, you know, school's out.

00:42:25.500 So it's full of, never mind Papaz and Zeta's great grandparents and kids and families and

00:42:31.340 people going to their swimming lessons and probably the odd, you know, orthodox person

00:42:36.140 wandering through to go to, who knows, the library, the library, the Jewish historical

00:42:39.660 museum or something that's in the complex. And Ron let loose with a few words that admittedly,

00:42:43.900 I'm sure some of those people have never heard either individually or frankly, with a hyphen in

00:42:48.460 between them. And Bernie doesn't back down. He doesn't back down. Ron lets him have it again.

00:42:56.780 And finally, this dissipates. Now, this is, of course, the end of the meeting.

00:43:01.100 Ron pretty much immediately when he calms down, sends an email apologizing to the people there

00:43:05.260 for his language. But clearly, this is provocatory. And there's no two ways about it. Somebody walks

00:43:10.620 up, interrupts a meeting. I mean, really, this is the story. Left wing publisher

00:43:15.740 disrupts meeting about anti-Semitism between Jewish officials and activists.

00:43:23.820 It's a terrible look. It's just such a bizarre kind of behavior and nothing I would expect.

00:43:31.020 Bernie Bell is not some firebrand 25 year old full of piss and vinegar. He's older than me.

00:43:34.940 You know, he's somewhere probably put. And I'm not saying it's the sound mean. He's probably,

00:43:38.540 you know, he's well preserved, but he's probably pushing 65, I think.

00:43:41.420 He's old enough to know better. He, as of our conversation right now, and I have written

00:43:48.300 Federation officials and Rabbi Rose, and I know Ron corresponded with Rabbi Rose about this.

00:43:54.220 Bernie Bellin has not apologized, not to the Federation officials, not to Rabbi Rose from Yitzchayim.

00:44:00.140 He has not apologized to Lauren Isaacs.

00:44:07.260 This is, you know, really acceptable in the eyes of a lot of people, that a 23 year old student who is

00:44:17.020 a rising expert in the subjects of anti-Semitism and pro-Israel activism and countering BDS,

00:44:24.620 that she, early in her role, it's not like she's been around for a decade doing this,

00:44:29.980 having a meeting with officials in what was used to be called the Jerusalem of Canada.

00:44:35.660 She's meeting with the officials here and with a rabbi who's, you know, got some schlep in terms 0.96

00:44:41.420 of the size of his contingency there, his congregation. And no apology to Lauren Isaacs or to

00:44:47.660 Heirut Canada. Just, Heirut North America, actually, because it's a, you know, it's a subsidiary,

00:44:53.900 Heirut Canada is. Just unbelievable that, and this is what's going on, that, that he would have done

00:45:01.180 that. And we've kept quiet on that, waiting to see if there would be apologies to anybody for

00:45:06.060 anything. Ron apologized for his language. He didn't start it. But these attacks on the pro-Israel

00:45:13.340 community, the, the, the slights, uh, being told that your opinion doesn't matter, that can, that,

00:45:18.940 you know, anything can be written about businesses or advertisers and your recourse is, well, well,

00:45:24.460 if you're not an advertiser, you're going to have to buy an ad. Like what? It's a very bizarre

00:45:28.220 approach. It's not my style of Jewish journalism, as I've indicated to, to our audience. Uh, uh, but

00:45:34.060 it's, uh, it's, it's disturbing. And, uh, it, it makes Ron and I know that we're on the right

00:45:39.900 path that, uh, this is disrupting the status quo, uh, that we've done nothing, uh, nothing wrong by

00:45:47.020 exposing this stuff and the notion that anyone else can defend, uh, uh, uh, Linda Sarsour as a 0.98

00:45:54.780 matter of free speech. And, uh, again, the Jewish post, you never read that 4,200 people signed that

00:45:59.980 petition that Ron Easton's wife Shirley organized, and you will always hear about it from anybody else

00:46:05.500 that knows what really went on. But he says, oh, these guys are troublemakers. And it's the attitude.

00:46:09.740 And even coming over to Ron in front of the Federation, in front of this rabbi, you better 0.98

00:46:14.300 watch yourself, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, trying to make him look

00:46:16.940 bad and discredit our business operation. Uh, the Jewish community needs unity, both from right and 0.92

00:46:21.820 left. And the left is to understand that, uh, uh, the game has changed and the right has a voice and the

00:46:28.460 right is as a strong opinions and, uh, is not just going to be bullied around because the left

00:46:37.180 owns a printing press. And it's, uh, it's very, it's, it's disturbing. I've known the people involved

00:46:43.340 for a long time, but in my wildest dreams, I never thought I'd see a meeting about antisemitism,

00:46:47.580 a somebody try to prevent it. And then B a meeting with community leaders after that meeting is

00:46:52.860 successfully held, somebody trying to interrupt that. It's just a very bizarre and disturbing pattern

00:46:57.900 coming almost certainly from the political left. There's no other candidates for in another way

00:47:03.500 really to describe what's going on to us in the last month. It shows that, um, for certain members

00:47:11.260 of the community and a small minority of the community, they think that the only Jewish voice

00:47:17.580 that should be out there is the left wing one. And, uh, you know, the, just the very fact that they're

00:47:23.180 so threatened by what you guys are doing, um, only speaks to the necessity of the work that you're

00:47:30.380 doing. It shows that there's another side of the story to be told. It shows that they don't want

00:47:33.900 the other side of the story to be told. And I don't know about you, but I do a lot of things just out of

00:47:38.060 spite because somebody told me not to, um, that's as good a reason as any some days to tell the other

00:47:46.140 side of the story. And I guess, you know what, being a left winger means never having to say you're sorry.

00:47:51.500 That's, you know, I'll, I'll tell you in Winnipeg when I want to take this back to what you talk

00:47:57.020 about at the beginning, that Manitoba was the beginning of the, the turn back towards conservative

00:48:01.180 governments in this country. And it shows you, uh, uh, how bad the NDP failed here under Greg

00:48:08.860 Selinger. I can't say it about Gary Doerr a lot, not to like, but Selinger really, uh, uh,

00:48:14.780 hurtled the province towards the toilet. Uh, and of course the 2015, how many of, uh, of these NDP

00:48:21.260 staffers migrated to Alberta to help, uh, Rachel Notley ruin that province. Right. So I think what

00:48:26.380 was going on in Alberta really reinforced the resolve of Manitobans. There was going to be a

00:48:31.020 change in the NDP. Tories took 40 seats. The NDP was reduced to 14. Uh, it's not really recognized

00:48:39.180 that the swing to conservatism that you, uh, have, have, have, have mentioned. It's not really

00:48:45.420 recognized nationally that this is where it started and the reasons why it started here,

00:48:49.900 which when things go too far to the left, when there's too much favoritism towards the union's

00:48:55.580 agendas, when there's, uh, laws that are counterproductive to the cause of human rights,

00:49:01.900 when there's a, you know, some things are allowed to slip through and other people become prosecuted and

00:49:06.380 persecuted by the practices of government departments. Um, part of the concern here is

00:49:12.700 that the Pallister administration has failed people who were counting on the, on the change

00:49:19.020 in government to turn around a lot of those bureaucratic behaviors, a lot of those administrative

00:49:24.060 behaviors within the government departments. Pallister did not come with a broom the way

00:49:28.780 I believe he should have and gotten rid of some of these characters because let's again,

00:49:32.700 let's look at health policy. It's the same, uh, uh, the same brainiacs that have been behind this

00:49:40.940 policy going back in terms of needle return rates, everything else, the same people, whether it's the

00:49:45.420 WHO, these other programs, they've been involved in this harm reduction for 15, 20 years and trying

00:49:51.820 to be like a, I don't want to say a caretaker government, but you know, they want to be, they

00:49:55.580 had a lot to deal with. They were very hands off and it came to a lot of administrative and bureaucratic

00:49:58.860 matters. And there are Tories that frankly, you know, are considering staying home. Uh,

00:50:03.740 you can decline a ballot here. And, and there is concern that, that, that the people that brought

00:50:09.580 Pallister to the dance, they weren't as recognized the people that were as regular dance partners,

00:50:13.340 so to speak from, from his own circles of support and people he knew in, in business or party business

00:50:19.180 or whatever. Uh, but ultimately this province has learned a hard lesson as did Alberta. Look at

00:50:25.820 Ontario, never come close to going back NDP again. Um, and, uh, I, what you said about the left is

00:50:35.580 true. It's very, you know, what can, who's trying to say, sorry, I give him credit. It's just,

00:50:39.820 he's not saying he's sorry about everything and that hurts him. But in general, yes, it's, it's,

00:50:45.500 it's a shame that the left has drifted so far from the principled leftists like Stanley Knowles,

00:50:53.660 even Joe Zucan was a Winnipeg city councilor as a communist. Uh, David Orlico was a distant cousin

00:50:59.020 line. It was an NDP member of parliament for years that these were honorable people

00:51:05.340 that philosophically believed something, but we're doctrinaire. And that kind of,

00:51:10.540 you know, perhaps more genteel cooperative, um, you know, where, where nationalism meant

00:51:18.780 everybody together and not my kind of nationalism from the left. Uh, it's, it's, it's a startling

00:51:25.740 change. And to see it reflected in the kind of behaviors that we've seen, the J dot CN that I've 1.00

00:51:30.220 seen with, with the great Canadian talk show blog, it's, uh, you know, getting up every day. I don't,

00:51:36.460 I, I don't want those surprises. I want to be able to focus on the kind of work that I do and the kind

00:51:40.060 of work that you appreciate investigative stories, uh, proving the policies aren't working,

00:51:45.500 making the voice of people that are affected by bad policy heard. That's my raison d'etre

00:51:51.420 in the secular side. And, uh, and I really rather focus on it. And instead, you know,

00:51:56.300 what my lawyer used to call skirmishes and sometimes the skirmishes turn to battles.

00:52:01.900 And then every once in a while, you know, you never know when a war can break out. But luckily,

00:52:07.180 sometimes you just use a lot of funny swear words instead of, uh, coming from the other side of the

00:52:11.340 table, I guess. Okay. Marty, you've been so generous with your time, as you always are

00:52:17.260 with me. Um, what are some of the best ways that people can find your work? Um, even though Facebook

00:52:22.940 doesn't want people to find it and, uh, how can people financially support you in your efforts to

00:52:29.580 tell the other side of the story during the Manitoba election and to, you know, shine a light

00:52:34.300 on anti-Semitism, um, and the Jewish community, uh, west of Toronto? Uh, and increasingly a lot of

00:52:42.060 our stories have been about Toronto because there's so much action there. Um, uh, the best way really

00:52:47.740 is, you know, honestly, if people are, you know, pro-Israel, pro-Zionist, anti-BDS, uh, but believe in

00:52:54.140 the, you know, the Judeo-Christian values that Canada is based on, uh, and don't want to see, 0.98

00:52:59.820 uh, that, you know, those, those values, uh, threatened, uh, those values, uh, assailed.

00:53:06.140 Uh, the j.ca, uh, there is a, uh, a page there set up for advertising and for sponsorships

00:53:11.660 and, uh, one way or the other, that benefits me and keeps me, keeps me going in all my work. Uh,

00:53:17.660 and, uh, we're looking certainly towards a Jewish new year. So people are thinking it'd be good to put 0.99

00:53:21.820 up, uh, um, uh, you know, a banner ad that says, I stand with the Winnipeg Jewish community or anything

00:53:27.020 like that. Those traditional ads you'd see in print. So box ads, we'll do it for you digitally

00:53:31.100 at a much cheaper rate, as well as, you know, traditional advertising campaigns for goods

00:53:35.020 or services or products. Uh, and, uh, and, uh, as I said, there's also a donations possible through

00:53:41.020 there. So the j.ca, the j.ca has a Twitter account. If you type in the j.ca, it'll end up coming up.

00:53:46.620 Uh, we interact with you, Sheila, and, uh, and a number of people. It's a different audience

00:53:51.100 over there with what we do, but there is some crossover that I very much, uh, appreciate and we

00:53:55.420 appreciate the support and the, the, uh, you know, the thumbs up and the retweets that you

00:53:59.420 give the j.ca, uh, for my other reporting. Sometimes I write the odd story still from

00:54:04.140 Manitoba post, mostly they're about, you know, sports and bands, the entertainment side of

00:54:08.060 Marty that, uh, it never goes away, uh, where I show up someplace and it's like, wow, this is a good,

00:54:13.580 you know, this is a good set. And I'm going to get some good pictures of, of the singers and of the

00:54:17.340 bands. And I'm going to show what, what the other side of Winnipeg is like, um, uh, for, uh,

00:54:23.340 the other, uh, you know, more general reporting and analysis and commentary that I do, uh, uh,

00:54:29.580 TG CTS on Twitter. And from there, you'll find links to, uh, both the great game talk show blog

00:54:36.380 on blogspot, as well as the alternate location where I'm posting stories that can be posted on

00:54:41.020 Facebook. Uh, and, uh, and, uh, there's a link actually right in my profile, uh, for donations,

00:54:49.100 uh, that way. And, but again, if you go through the stories, you'll find every story has a link

00:54:53.260 to the original premise. There's two elections. So I'm coming back and, uh, and all support, uh,

00:54:58.300 we've, we got about 25%, about 30% of the goal of, uh, a hundred donors of $50 each to cover the two

00:55:04.860 elections, the Manitoba and the federal election in Manitoba. And I'm very hopeful that that'll get

00:55:09.420 topped up. Uh, nobody's getting rich here, but I, I, I think there's a lot of value in what I do and

00:55:15.660 what I've been trained to do. And I, I don't relish the idea that there's nobody like me who in this

00:55:20.700 market and in this region can tell these stories, has the institutional knowledge, can work with

00:55:26.540 people like Sheila on, on trends that are happening across the West. Uh, so anyways, that's where you

00:55:32.380 can find the J dot C on Twitter at TG CTS on Twitter, great Canadian talk show group on Facebook,

00:55:38.940 even if the blog can't be locked there and any support you folks can, can direct our way, uh,

00:55:45.500 would be very appreciated. And believe me, put to good use. Cause I got lots more work to do this

00:55:49.980 fall and into the winter. Uh, I think we all do. Um, Marty, I want to thank you for being generous

00:55:55.420 with your time. Um, hopefully we can check back in with you before the election is through in the

00:56:01.740 election. Yes, because I think, yeah, please, because I think, uh, we'll have some interesting

00:56:06.460 developments there. Um, and, and even just a media critique, you know, I think you're,

00:56:12.700 you're going to experience a lot of the same, uh, you know, bizarre attacks just for the sake

00:56:20.860 of attacking conservatives from the mainstream media during an election campaign. I think that'll

00:56:25.420 be fun to see. We'll see. And I can do something like that. The elections on September 10th. So

00:56:30.140 sometime maybe right around September 1st ish, you know, going in, what would they call it? The home

00:56:35.980 stretch maybe we can do that. And then perhaps a more fulsome, uh, uh, seminar with Sheila and Marty,

00:56:44.700 uh, in time for Jewish new year, which is around the end of September this year. I don't remember

00:56:48.060 the exact date around September 26th or 27th or 28th is Rosh Hashanah. And maybe we can do something

00:56:53.660 for Jewish new year. Sure. It's a date. Awesome. Okay. Thanks Marty. Have a great day. Thank you.

00:57:01.020 And thanks everyone out there.

00:57:09.740 As you can see, Marty's doing valuable work in Manitoba. He's covering the election

00:57:18.940 and he's covering things that are elections issues like the failure of harm reduction strategies and

00:57:24.460 how harm reduction strategies are actually the thing harming low income neighborhoods.

00:57:29.260 And yet Marty's being censored by Facebook. I suspect because a bunch of so-called poverty

00:57:34.300 reduction advocates reported his work for telling the truth. Facebook doesn't want you and I to see

00:57:41.420 Marty's work. And that's as good a reason as any for me to share it with you. Well, everybody,

00:57:47.020 that's the show for tonight. Thanks so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody

00:57:51.020 back here in the same time in the same place next week. And remember,

00:57:55.500 don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:58:17.020 We'll be right back here in the same time in the same time.

Rebel News Podcast - August 15, 2019

Manitoba election called — and social media censorship begins (Guest： Marty Gold)

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