Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ A new documentary reflects on how the world reacted — or overreacted — to the coronavirus

00:00:00.000 A brand new documentary examines the world's reaction to the outbreak of the coronavirus and

00:00:05.500 who got more powerful and who got more wealthy while lives were destroyed and civil liberties

00:00:11.020 were stomped all over. And you know what that means? Naturally, the movie has already been

00:00:15.860 censored by big tech. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:30.000 Roll them. Action. Germany reports another record number. Record Heine. Another record. New record. Hitting a record. Record numbers of new COVID infections. They go up faster, of course, if people don't follow the rules. A very simple instruction. You must stay at home. Oh my God, oh my God, something needs to be done.

00:00:58.680 We are under threat here. And so we turn towards the few that we think are there to protect us, not understanding that it's actually them who have created the problem. It's those doing the wrong thing, driving our record case numbers.

00:01:20.020 Und das macht mich Angst. Und was kann ich dagegen tun?

00:01:23.780 Es gibt immer Menschen, die sich dem Teufel verschreiben wegen eines Vorteils in den Märchen. Und am Schluss geht es nicht gut aus.

00:01:31.980 Das, was passiert ist, ist, dass eine Überwachungsinfrastruktur aufgebaut wird. Und gleichzeitig gehen wir auf diese autoritäre Regierungsform wie in China über.

00:01:43.260 Tada!

00:01:43.700 Was brauche ich hier, um ein Rennen zu kommen?

00:01:55.680 QR-Code für den 5-Nachweis. Sie müssen zweimal geimpft sein. Die Zeitdämpfung muss zwei Wochen zurückliegen. Und ein Ausweis und eine medizinische Maske.

00:02:05.220 Und ohne geht gar nicht? 0.52

00:02:06.320 Nein.

00:02:06.540 Man sich nicht aufiones Quellen an? Das ist deineезidimistisch. Aber kein Watcher für den Auf�이

00:02:26.080 benefit to what extent the benefit remains a benefit now listen this new coronavirus i think

00:02:34.960 it's an open secret it was made in a lab all right if they started making these mrna and

00:02:41.520 putting them into clinical trials that many people would die god help the world god help the world

00:02:50.160 this is a story of how strong people can turn unconsciously into weak creatures

00:03:01.200 unless we're waking up

00:03:07.840 what you just saw here is the trailer for the brand new documentary by independent european filmmaker

00:03:13.920 marian pools and really marine's just asking questions and taking a bit of a retrospective

00:03:19.760 on what happened to the world over the last two years with the coronavirus pandemic now

00:03:24.320 marian comes from the left but he's got an open mind and he's willing to see both sides of the issue

00:03:30.320 he wants to hear from everybody and he's not trying to change your mind about issues he just wants to

00:03:36.000 show you information and opinions you may not have seen yet and he's doing this with his brand new

00:03:42.160 movie pandammed about the coronavirus and the world's reaction to it but he's also done this previously

00:03:47.280 on issues of free speech in his movie paradigma i'm in it he's also done this in other movies

00:03:54.000 return to eden and the uncertainty has settled so joining me tonight from his home in germany

00:03:59.680 in an interview we recorded yesterday morning is marian pools

00:04:11.040 so joining me now from germany is good friend of this show marian pools he's a

00:04:17.600 independent european filmmaker and he's got a new uh documentary i guess out but before we get a

00:04:24.240 little bit into why you chose to make the new documentary and what it's about and what

00:04:29.360 you sort of discovered along the way why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself

00:04:34.800 yeah um well to make a long story very short i i started 2008 and making films around the world

00:04:43.440 international development um a lot of third world countries my teams were poverty human rights but

00:04:50.640 also free speech actually and then after a while i i did a sabbatical and i started to make really

00:04:57.200 independent films which i financed by myself and i started with climate i thought you know i can travel

00:05:03.600 to africa to cover the problems but we do have some issues as well in europe and in the western world

00:05:11.200 and let's look at these um challenges so i did and um as you know as we are living in a very crazy time

00:05:18.960 where um asking questions is uh you know you're a suspect when you're asking questions outside the

00:05:24.640 narrative so i bumped into a completely different uh network of people uh a network of audience and um

00:05:33.040 you know i came from the left liberal and um where i'm used to ask liberal questions as much as possible

00:05:40.640 and then in a sudden you know i got the feedback you're not you're not allowed to ask these questions

00:05:47.280 well i was allowed to ask these questions but you're a suspect because you're more asking that you know

00:05:53.440 the right of the conservative questions which i thought this this is crazy actually and uh you know

00:05:59.520 i start continuing to do so uh but you know my budget was running out and then a whole new world

00:06:06.400 developed in front of my eyes and people started to donate and uh i felt very strengthened by it and

00:06:12.640 i thought wow this is not the the minority anymore asking these questions uh and nowadays you know it's

00:06:20.320 my i think this is my fifth film i'm i'm uh produced uh with this principle paid and donated by people who ask

00:06:30.960 these questions and you know the only thing i'm doing is translating these questions

00:06:36.000 people have into you know the format of documentary and um and today i i you know i i have i made a film

00:06:47.520 about i mean i'm a critical documentary maker so uh we're lived through two crazy years in terms of

00:06:56.640 corona fighting the virus and a lot of people are talking about it but there are a lot less

00:07:03.760 uh stories i hear from the stories i really want to hear as a liberal as well and that these are just

00:07:12.320 the alternative um directions we could choose you know there is no choose there's nothing to choose

00:07:18.800 for us and that i thought was a suspect for me and i started to you know try to make a story about it and

00:07:26.320 ask these uh questions um and you know at the end it became a pretty hard and inconvenient look back at

00:07:35.200 the past two years and um where i asked the questions whether we act correctly and i'm starting as a just

00:07:44.240 you know as a normal person not as a a denier or whatever um and that and i think we must ask ourselves

00:07:52.480 that question as we always do after an event right a sort of an evaluation and when you do look back

00:08:00.480 the past two years you notice that so many things were um basically were planned before the pandemic

00:08:07.520 which highly coincidental helped the pharmaceutical companies world governments and you know the globalists

00:08:14.320 to push through their agendas under the name of saving the world population from a virus and you know

00:08:20.880 these big organizations i was fighting against when i did the work in africa right and now i'm meeting

00:08:27.840 them here in the western world trying to you know get a grip of on people and on on system and on the

00:08:35.760 capital and um i think this film is not made that i'm discovering new facts or whatever it's i think it

00:08:45.280 was important for me to just make an evaluation of the past two years so that we are not forgetting

00:08:53.680 this time where we've been through and that people recognize the patterns um those in power can use to

00:09:01.760 control us um and i think this is important because a lot of people are you know sort of feeling numb and

00:09:10.080 are happy that we are in a in a sort of break they think this is a it is a break but a lot of people

00:09:16.640 i think it's over now there's you know the virus is gone and i think you should see it as you know

00:09:22.320 we're in the eye of the storm and in the eye of the storm it's you know there is no wind the sun can shine

00:09:28.080 and everything seems to be okay but no one really got in on on in the head that the storm will will

00:09:37.600 pass over once again um and there are a lot of signs for it that you know we will have a new variant

00:09:45.280 of a virus um so i think this this story is is important for people to recognize the patterns and

00:09:54.320 you know give them a choice um and some tools to um how we should act as as humans within a democracy

00:10:06.000 and that we at the end decide what to do with the virus or not yeah you know so much of your

00:10:13.840 other work has focused on i i think at rebel news our journalistic mission is to tell the other

00:10:21.760 side of the story and i think that's how you approach things by asking questions and so many

00:10:28.240 of the questions you ask you're not allowed to anymore i think that's really the problem with

00:10:34.640 discourse you can't ask okay how about how do these climate change policies these things designed to fight

00:10:44.160 climate change how do they affect our food supply how does internet censorship affect the public

00:10:50.880 discourse and how we treat each other and and civility in society how do wind turbines um affect

00:11:00.800 the landscape when we're told that they are going to save us all from evil fossil fuels and now your

00:11:07.760 new movie pandem it you know it focuses on the the things that we're not even allowed to talk about on the

00:11:15.200 internet many of the things that just you're just posing questions but if you pose those questions

00:11:21.920 in a youtube live stream you might get cancelled you might lose your channel you might lose your twitter

00:11:27.440 account and in you know if you're conspiracy minded as sometimes i can be it makes you wonder you know it

00:11:36.080 for a lot of people it's confirmation that you're right when you're not allowed to ask questions

00:11:40.480 where you're not allowed to hear the other side of the story oh your mind automatically goes to this

00:11:47.760 is a cover-up yeah we're living in crazy times i i witnessed it as well because i i had the trailer of

00:11:57.040 the film and i did an upload on youtube and i think it was within within three hours it was gone and youtube

00:12:04.320 you know deleted it and it shocked me because youtube didn't ever delete my my work and now 0.86

00:12:14.080 with this trailer even with the trailer i i barely ask critical questions i you can rather call it stupid 0.58

00:12:21.920 question or naive question simple questions but what do you say i don't understand you you know and youtube

00:12:28.000 deleted it so um i was quite shocked to um to um yeah witness it and you know it is at the end when you

00:12:41.360 when you see in what kind of political landscape we're living in that governments you know sort of

00:12:48.560 changed its role from um providing common facilities to the role of prescribing and forcing citizens in

00:12:57.120 in detail how they should live and all in the name of preventing crises you know but um then they need

00:13:04.960 to shut down all the different voices who go against the narrative but you know because do they prevent

00:13:12.640 crises or do they prevent self-empowered citizens you know and this is the problem we're facing today

00:13:19.920 on youtube on these these main platforms and um you know on the other side you can i try to look at the

00:13:28.880 you know as a as a sort of a mr bean approach like you know youtube okay it's like a bakery selling bread

00:13:37.120 and they don't sell a certain bread anymore you know and that's hey it's a business model so you're

00:13:43.200 allowed to but don't call yourself a free platform right so i'm go to another bakery and in this case

00:13:50.480 it was rumble who are providing that platforms for me so i put it on platform so you know it's i'm not

00:13:58.880 shouting that i'm a victim of censorship but i do see patterns of it um and i think it doesn't make sense

00:14:08.400 at all because people will always find their ways to communicate and especially in this time in this

00:14:14.160 era we're in so um basically we're living in a very free um system we we are in certain the sense

00:14:24.480 you know we are suppressed but we can choose we can go to rumble we can go to other platforms

00:14:30.800 and this is the system when you squeeze the system in one direction things will pop out and

00:14:37.440 find their own way you know to develop organically and governments cannot control it and they don't

00:14:42.880 understand it and um you know so so i'm i'm not so worried although i do have some concerns you know

00:14:51.680 where we are stranding as you know free people because that's the that's the thing that's what

00:14:58.560 citizens or the the governments wants um want to do right so yeah it's it's it's a crazy time and

00:15:07.360 for us artists or journalists we some yeah you need to have some some sense of bravery to continuing

00:15:17.840 because financially you're not that you know fat um so it should be it should come from the heart

00:15:26.320 really from from from out of the store from out within and i think when we continuing this battle as i can

00:15:33.760 call it that like this um i think there always will be a way a new way uh but it's it's a very uncertain

00:15:43.520 crazy time yeah you know for me that was one of the takeaways from your new movie pandammed was that

00:15:52.480 despite how the government sort of cracks down and forces you to live a certain way

00:15:58.000 much like your description of social media platforms and internet control freedom always

00:16:04.160 tends to find a way it is the human will to be free and to not be suppressed and you know it's

00:16:10.720 interesting because you get before we started recording you said i'm in the former east germany

00:16:15.520 where you had to register your typewriter by the way with the government and it feels like there's so

00:16:21.360 much of that being replicated now in the digital era but in the end i think freedom always wins

00:16:29.120 it is it will always win absolutely um it has it always have consequences right when you're

00:16:36.720 fighting for something it you know is always hurting because you're leaving the comfort zone

00:16:41.360 but you know leaving the comfort zone means that you're starting to be very very um innovative and

00:16:47.920 and uh creative and uh you know we are part of nature and governments don't understand it you

00:16:54.560 know and in nature everything pops up in a different form when you cut the weed there you know some some

00:17:01.840 other crops will grow again when you look at how a forest is is developing itself you know when we're

00:17:09.840 you know destroying a couple of trees some other trees will grow again so it doesn't make sense and

00:17:16.240 humans are nature as well and and that's what governments try to do when we're you know heading

00:17:21.920 to that one world system then you know you should cut the lines between nature and humanity and call

00:17:29.200 them like you know transhumanists or whatever and try to digitalize them to make them sort of numb 0.99

00:17:37.120 and don't see nature anymore because that it makes us really dumb as well not only numb but also dumb 0.99

00:17:44.000 because i thought about it like you know walking in a forest um imagine how many sentences you you 0.96

00:17:51.280 um you open you know you need all your sentences like um feeling smelling um everything and at the office

00:18:03.120 in the digital world you only need two of them that's um watching and hearing right but you don't feel it

00:18:10.480 anymore and that makes us humans and that makes us a part of the system and governments want to

00:18:16.800 sort of dehumanize humanity and so digitalizing and we digitalize ourselves as well in a rapid speed

00:18:25.600 and everything should become digital and and why because all digital things are connected to wires

00:18:31.920 so it's controllable from a distance and the more digital you are the more controllable you are you know and

00:18:38.240 and that's what what governments love and and we barely understand uh but we do feel something

00:18:45.440 missing in our being right where is our soul what is a soul what what is culture uh you know and and

00:18:53.680 these things were missing but we don't we don't see it we can you know we know that there is something

00:19:00.240 wrong but no one can actually point a finger on it and you know in pandemic i i tried to you know hold

00:19:09.040 people uh um hold people back from from going into the digital world which is not in the first sense not

00:19:18.000 not bad but you should understand what what the powers can do when you are digital and it is a reminder

00:19:26.880 as well that we are humans right with a with a heart a soul an individual character and we should not um

00:19:37.840 let ourselves of let let let that spiritual soul be crumbled into this digital era um and i think we can

00:19:46.320 do a mix uh of all of that um but we should be very careful where we go as humanity because you know

00:19:56.400 there are a lot of signs that humanity is on the brink of extinction yeah and that sounds very very

00:20:02.640 dramatic and very hard but i think it's really when you look at it a little bit spiritual i think this is

00:20:10.400 what's going on and um and you know and humanity is too great to you know to throw that in a bin

00:20:20.560 you know as i watched pan damned i thought you know what a great sort of bookend to some of your other

00:20:29.440 work particularly on climate change like the uncertainty has settled and returned to eden because

00:20:35.200 it the progression is this one crisis climate change that they've used to control your life how

00:20:41.920 big your house is how far you can drive the kind of energy that comes into your house you know as soon

00:20:48.960 as covid came along there was this new thing that they could use to control your movement your relationships

00:20:57.040 with people and you know that's it i don't know what it was like in europe but in canada they were

00:21:04.560 controlling who could come into our homes that canceling christmas saying you cannot mix households

00:21:11.760 and so there was you know controlling your interactions with people it was this new crisis

00:21:18.560 that the people the control freaks of the world the one world government if you will i know i sound

00:21:23.840 conspiratorial but pretty well you know everybody started acting in unison to control all your interactions

00:21:30.560 with people and like you say instantly move things digital before they tried to move things digital

00:21:37.120 because of climate change you know work from home cut out greenhouse gas emissions but then they even

00:21:42.400 made our christmases digital using the threat and the fear of covet yeah and you know it's the same

00:21:50.400 pattern whether you talk about climate change whether you talk about corona when you talk about russia it's

00:21:55.520 it's you know you can you can get a sheet and put these these crises on a layer onto each other and

00:22:02.000 they're exactly the same it's the same method is by creating fear and you know by coincidence those who

00:22:10.000 create the fear are the saviors as well right and a lot of people in fear don't know what to do and um

00:22:17.360 you know they are they're just following and and that's the danger that people are being

00:22:21.520 sort of apathetic creatures we're just following like the herd like like a farmer you know directing his

00:22:31.600 cows um and you know it's it's easier to direct the herd than than direct an individual so um yeah and

00:22:40.480 and you know it is a coincidence or not but it is um when you um when we had corona and the corona was

00:22:49.200 was was gone once and a sudden it it was like a sport game like you know we went from corona up to

00:22:57.440 russia you know and then corona was gone and russia was you know the crisis and it's the same patterns

00:23:05.280 we're following again and again again it was with the climate climate stuff again uh the same like you

00:23:10.960 know when corona came climate change was you know not an issue and but slowly rules are you know

00:23:19.200 being introduced and we're accepting them and we're using them we're using nowadays to the

00:23:24.000 rules of climate change and you know in the past in the future we we start to use the corona rules

00:23:29.600 and when we continuing then you know it's quite the end game is that you as a private person are not

00:23:38.560 allowed to grow your own tomatoes in your own garden because you're using too much water and that's not

00:23:45.120 good for the climate and the tomatoes could could hold viruses which is not good for humanity so you

00:23:50.880 should not do it you know and that's how that's the end game right and if we want to to be at the

00:23:57.520 end game you know please but i i don't think that people understand or you know see the future as you roll down

00:24:07.200 the politics to the to the future and and that's that's where i i'm warning people for from or maybe

00:24:13.520 not warning i i don't want to convince anyone but i just want to give them the option to think about

00:24:19.440 it right and um i think it's very important that people are starting to think by themselves and you

00:24:25.120 know don't don't be trapped in fear because fear somehow you know stop stop thinking as well

00:24:33.760 yeah and for me when i look at you know some of these issues or maybe all of these issues

00:24:40.320 they really are solved by just simple self-reliance yeah you know when um you know when the government is

00:24:48.880 telling you to do things their way because they're the savior for me the option is no it's fine i'll save

00:24:54.560 myself i can grow my own food um i can think for myself i can do my own research um i i don't need the

00:25:03.280 government's permission to talk to my friends and family and stay connected to them that way

00:25:08.400 but a lot of people see as you say the government as their savior in all of this i don't know what

00:25:14.560 it is about society these days maybe they don't want to put in the work maybe they aren't confident

00:25:19.600 in their skills as human beings but i'm like you i think people are resilient and strong

00:25:26.640 and i wish people would just lean into that again yeah there's no reason to have fear nothing

00:25:32.160 nothing there's just not a reason whatsoever i can imagine one reason to to be in fear so um and i

00:25:39.920 think people should understand the the real power within within people themselves i mean their immune

00:25:45.280 systems is you know it's the most genius invention of of nature and you know all the all the doctors are

00:25:53.040 saying this and you know um and but people you know people in fear are just numb they are you know

00:26:02.560 they cannot act and so the thing is that we should spread love again on humanity to get rid of the fear

00:26:12.640 and to you know start over that you know the the the hippie time right where we were free and where we

00:26:19.280 thought you know we are humans we are people we are breaking through the the boundaries of power um

00:26:26.640 and don't let us self clip into this um system we're in right now because you know it's it's so funny too

00:26:35.600 when i saw the corona um when the start the pandemic started i was worrying about you know the participation

00:26:46.160 of people in in our democracy because we were having a virus right and we were trying to

00:26:54.800 to get a grip on the ic beds because you know the pressure on it so i thought okay that's that's fair

00:27:00.800 enough um but then you know the beds were reduced in hospitals yeah and i was in shock and i thought and

00:27:08.160 and and i couldn't read it in the newspaper and i was in shock and i was shouting all the you know

00:27:14.880 and then people were oh but you know that is that has nothing to do with it it has to do with

00:27:20.800 you know the financing but you know i said hey like al gore is saying the water the water level is rising

00:27:29.120 and we dutch people are breaking down the dikes yeah and everybody will say oh yeah but that has nothing to

00:27:36.480 do with it so you know it's it's just it's the agony of the masses that were in in this kind of

00:27:44.080 situation where you know there is a there is something very big coming at us and everybody is

00:27:49.840 seeing it but everybody could say yeah but it's different you know you know and sorry to interrupt

00:27:57.680 you but there's a lot of this that just people are not talking to their friends and neighbors anymore

00:28:03.600 as you say people have taken this digital in canada they banned us at times from interacting

00:28:09.360 with our friends and neighbors and that is the thing that keeps you normal and grounded and sharing

00:28:15.600 opinions and sharing different viewpoints and different ways of looking at things that prompt

00:28:20.000 you to look at things different ways we don't have that anymore or at least the the powers from above

00:28:26.560 they don't want us to have that baseline for normal that they use that we used to have so when they

00:28:32.320 tell us uh yeah you know we do sure we close the icu beds and maybe it looks like we're manufacturing a

00:28:39.120 crisis but it's a cost-cutting measure because we're the benevolent government and we're just trying to save

00:28:44.320 you money yeah it's it's it's crazy that you know a platform is rebel and in you know in germany you have

00:28:53.200 and uh a couple of platforms as well we're being banned by official meetings and so on um and you

00:29:00.400 know we can we can deal with it in two ways we can we can be the victim right we can play the victim

00:29:05.760 or we can say well this is gonna be this is gonna be a fun time where we are trying anyhow anyway with

00:29:14.720 people from the ground who are our existence because they allow us to operate and we're gonna we're gonna

00:29:23.200 create the world the people want to create and i think that the second option is is my option and

00:29:28.720 i guess your option as well that we will not stop you know and and we find like like what i said we

00:29:37.840 were pulled out of our comfort zones in times you know when we were doing normal jobs in the mainstream or

00:29:44.640 so and we're now in not in our comfort zone anymore so we are getting very creative uh we are getting very

00:29:53.200 uh innovative and we will find ways and i think this is um not a frightening time it's a it's a very

00:30:00.240 exciting time to to be part of uh because there are big system shifts going on and it's really

00:30:08.240 depending on how we as humans are dealing with it or not and um and what you say humans are very strong

00:30:15.360 and it's so you know people are also like um how do you call it like a sport man who supported too

00:30:23.760 much then your muscles are too how do you call it in english yeah yeah yeah right and people don't want

00:30:30.960 to hear it anymore and say oh yeah just do what you want to do and you know then i can go to holiday or

00:30:37.280 something so in a film i say a couple of times and then you're making a pact with the devil uh

00:30:44.320 you know in um in exchange for a benefit but you don't realize you know in what extent the benefit

00:30:52.800 stays and remains a benefit um because the rules won't change even though you are vaccinated or

00:31:00.080 whatever and and that we don't talk talk about these important things with even with your own 0.99

00:31:07.360 family anymore you know that that's really uh a stupid stupid thing actually that we're 0.99

00:31:16.400 um we're avoiding conversation we're avoiding democracy and basically what we're saying north korea is 0.98

00:31:23.760 fine that's what we say with it right because you know i don't have any i'm too tired to talk about

00:31:30.640 this stuff no we should talk about this stuff until we find the direction and a common direction

00:31:36.560 um but people don't don't do it anymore i'm you know the critics i'm i'm getting is i'm talking to

00:31:43.600 a couple of um experts in the film um medical experts were you know doing a sort of prognosis

00:31:52.400 of what the vaccinations are doing the mrna and you know it scared me to to listen to them and

00:31:59.600 you know i know a lot of people were being vaccinated and you know so for me it was

00:32:06.160 i felt the same right i i thought hey it's my responsibility maybe to cut that scene out because

00:32:12.880 it might be too hard for them and then something in my said no i i need to keep it in because

00:32:20.800 you know i'm not claiming you know i don't deliver truth but i'm searching for right and in this form

00:32:26.960 i let people participate in the thinking process and and they sort of forced to activate their own

00:32:32.960 thoughts about the whole so then i'm giving a lot of ingredients and the people should find um you know be

00:32:40.640 become more active and and that was the reason i said no i i let it in because imagine when you know

00:32:49.280 they are for 50 right with the saying and i cut that out then you know i i need to say in a couple

00:32:57.840 of years i knew but i i left it out because you know i thought it was too hard to hear so

00:33:03.920 it's not nice because you know i have a lot of family um within that narrative and but i invited

00:33:12.800 them as well to the premiere you know and and um but i know the feeling and real love can hurt sometimes

00:33:22.080 sometimes and you need to hurt people in the name of love and not hurting like um violence or something

00:33:29.360 but sometimes you need to be in a very inconvenient situation to you know to say something which is

00:33:38.800 probably a little bit hard but you do it out of in the name of love and yeah and and then you

00:33:48.320 and then once all of a sudden i produced um pandem just with that principle actually

00:33:54.640 you know it's uh it's unkind to keep the people you love in some sort of sweet gentle lie

00:34:03.280 yes that is you know sometimes they they need to hear the truth and best to hear it from someone who

00:34:09.840 has their best interests in heart i wanted to sorry go ahead and we we we do need it need to hear it as

00:34:17.280 well right we need to receive critics as much as possible as well you know we're not we're not holy

00:34:24.320 we are not right we're all searching the truth but in order to to to reach a certain truth you need to

00:34:32.880 cooperate with different perspectives that's that's you know that's what we're trying to do and like in

00:34:38.080 a in a film you know it's the it's not bad to believe in a lie you know it's not bad for governments to

00:34:45.120 lie when everybody is believing the lie you know you can build great things but the problem is that

00:34:53.600 we don't believe in the lie anymore yeah so it's crumbling down right and then government should

00:34:58.720 should act to find another lie where we can find our you know our common sense or direction or whatever

00:35:07.040 because truth is far away from everything you know who's having the truth nobody knows so

00:35:11.840 we're all living in a lie but that's okay when everybody believes in it but as as long as nobody

00:35:18.000 is believing it anymore governments who change and they should understand that um you know the time of

00:35:23.760 this narrative is gone and we're changing and humanity is changing you you can feel it worldwide this is a sort

00:35:30.240 of how do you call it morphogenetic fields you know morphogenetic energy it's creating it's

00:35:36.800 floating around the planet that you can feel it everywhere there there are demonstration in japan

00:35:42.240 in canada in germany and in you know in in the villages of the netherlands so there is something

00:35:49.040 going on right and you know for me it's a very exciting uh thing to to witness actually yeah it's it's fun to be

00:35:57.120 a part of it instead of denying that it's happening like so many people in the mainstream media are i wanted to

00:36:02.800 ask you i have two questions left for you and i don't really think i asked you any questions so

00:36:09.520 it's okay it's more of just a conversation which i think is great um but what was the i guess the

00:36:16.800 most shocking thing you learned during the process of making pen down oh wow yeah these are always the

00:36:25.280 good and hard questions for me because i think the whole narrative that people are slipping in a sort of

00:36:30.480 matrix and don't see it that's that's very scary for me um and how to break it down um because it's

00:36:40.560 it's it's it's it's so hard and i was very shocked about what a lot of medical experts were saying about

00:36:51.120 the vaccine um that we're all still in an experiment um and you know even where animals are dying because

00:37:05.200 of the vaccine you know they are injecting the world population i think it was so hard for me to hear and

00:37:14.240 i couldn't understand i couldn't believe that that we're in a phase three clinical trial right now at

00:37:23.280 the moment and even though there are so many great great doctors uh experts saying stop doing this stop

00:37:32.960 doing this and they are you know being being shift aside as as you know crazy people i think this is

00:37:40.480 really yeah well that shocked me because i was trying to find other narratives that you know would

00:37:50.240 kill the critics as well because i thought no governments are not that bad you know there should

00:37:57.280 be a reason behind it why they're doing it it shouldn't be that bad but it's really bad and uh you 0.95

00:38:03.040 know that that shocked me as most in the film a part of the the fact that people are being you know sort

00:38:10.800 of numb and apathetic and not reacting anymore and just walking row on row to the injection center and

00:38:21.040 let themselves being you know jabbed three four times all for you know that that small benefit they are

00:38:29.200 they're receiving they want to go to paris they want to go to italy and you know in order to fly

00:38:34.160 you need to have a jab and they said oh you know it's just it's just a needle are you afraid of a needle i

00:38:40.880 said oh you know and i don't it's not in me to in a conversation to convince the other i can i can tell

00:38:49.760 them you know be careful what you're doing with your body because you're you're you're the master of your

00:38:55.760 body you should decide whether you want to have that far as or not the governments don't

00:39:01.040 and they don't do it they think you know on italy on on the beach and they just you know get the jab and

00:39:08.960 they see you have that benefit for for a couple of minutes yeah they see it as the path of least

00:39:14.400 resistance it's easy just go there get a needle and all of a sudden you can go on vacation and there's no

00:39:21.040 long-term uh thinking there it's i guess part of the problem with western culture that immediate

00:39:29.120 gratification but i like you uh over the last two years my faith in the medical establishment

00:39:36.480 has been shaken that there is just this complete conformity of doctors who even when presented with

00:39:43.920 evidence saying okay for this age group there's no real benefit to them getting a vaccine why are we

00:39:50.880 making that necessary for them or this refusal to acknowledge that there are even side effects

00:39:57.920 whatsoever or adverse reactions whatsoever you see doctors speaking out and they're being silenced

00:40:04.240 they're being threatened and it makes you wonder about everything else you've learned about medicine

00:40:11.440 over the last course of your life yeah and i don't know what what why i didn't take that vaccine or why i was

00:40:20.080 skeptic about it because i'm you know as i told you i traveled the world a couple of times and um i made

00:40:26.480 over 50 50 documentaries in different countries all over the place so i i've been vaccinated all my life

00:40:34.800 and i've got everything in me what i need to travel um except when corona came i stopped i said no this is not

00:40:43.600 good and i don't know what's in me um what what was the resistance but it was just i think it was just

00:40:53.520 something told us all of us this is wrong and everybody could feel it that there was something you know

00:41:01.520 spooky about it but on the other side i can i can understand people who are you know i mean they're working

00:41:09.600 working 24 7 you know and when you're not working you cannot pay the pay the rent so people don't have

00:41:16.880 much time to go on the internet and do their own search so you know they're sort of clammed on the on

00:41:23.840 the mainstream narrative because that's the most uh doable uh you know we we might call it easy or or

00:41:33.600 you know lazy but i think it is also to have to do with you know people don't have time to do their

00:41:41.040 own research and then it's very easy to to read in a newspaper oh rebel news are deniers so don't listen

00:41:49.520 to them because they are scary and they can kill you and that's why you should listen to us you know then

00:41:55.440 you you don't have time to check this you know you don't have the energy because you have kids you

00:42:01.440 have you know everything to do and so i understand it but somehow somehow it's lazy because you know

00:42:11.120 democracy yeah i say it i say this often but democracy is not a present you know it's nothing

00:42:19.520 it's not something you get for free you need to participate in a democracy right and therefore you need to have

00:42:27.360 a bit of time left and and when you don't do it you know please go to north korea and you see what's

00:42:34.400 yeah what's going on there you know you said that it's apparently fine it's what's happening there

00:42:39.280 because that's where we're heading to when you know we're in a sleeping matrix kind of

00:42:45.840 um style where we when we go through but we you know when we're

00:42:51.920 we're wait a bit longer than we are right where north korea is today yeah you don't have to tell me

00:42:59.760 i'm canadian six million of 36 million canadians cannot get on an airplane or a train because of

00:43:06.000 their medical status uh we're the world's second largest country by landmass you need a plane to get

00:43:12.080 around and yet and for non-scientific reasons but because this is a group of people who would not do what

00:43:20.880 the government told them to do now they're being punished cut off from their friends and family

00:43:28.160 yeah and i think when we are you know we're holding our breath and we're we're just refusing

00:43:36.000 the unhuman the inhuman policies yeah then there is a time that governments are bringing the solutions okay

00:43:45.600 there are apparently you know one-third of the population we're not agreeing so we need to come 1.00

00:43:52.160 up with you know they cannot throw us from the earth right that's what we think yeah there is a vaccine

00:43:58.960 mandate no way it's not happening you know there are so many people who are against it and will stay

00:44:05.040 against it and when we keep on you know keep on these principles they should come up with it so um

00:44:16.240 you know and if not they're not but we should believe in this narrative that there is that there

00:44:21.600 is a way out um and that we should not you know get crumbled by this system uh which is coming at us as a

00:44:31.040 you know as a mat uh yeah i don't i don't i don't have the words it's hard to describe

00:44:38.880 the speed and the management coming at us right now but um you know i'd also love to think on

00:44:49.520 when you're on on a storm on a sea on a boat

00:44:52.480 you know it can be very scary but the only thing you should keep in mind that the storm

00:45:02.800 will end somehow someday you know and then the water is flat and you can do whatever you want to do

00:45:11.040 so in this stormy period you should stay on the boat and try to lose as less as much less as possible

00:45:20.160 people you love because you can throw them from board by not talking to them or something like

00:45:26.000 that you just you should come through this storm together and you know one day the storm will lie

00:45:32.640 down and there will be an opening i'm i'm very convinced of it we should now my last question is

00:45:42.800 how do people find your work but more importantly how do people support your work because you are

00:45:47.680 completely independent you are you know subject to big tech censorship you're finding ways around it

00:45:53.920 as life and freedom tends to do but how do people support you because you're on your own in all of this

00:46:01.840 yeah i'm a one-man band that's pretty much the thing yeah um well first of all i think

00:46:09.680 by supporting me you're you you should first watch my films um whether you're a left liberal or a

00:46:17.840 right wing or whatever you are you should watch my film they're for free they're on rumble you can

00:46:23.280 find them through marinepools.com or pandempt.org um and once you think okay this is inspiring i like

00:46:32.800 the work or i like the way of telling there are on the subtitles on the credits you find my support page

00:46:40.160 which is marinepools.com as well and you you could donate me uh you could you know be a monthly

00:46:49.520 supporter or just a one time and when you don't like the films you know don't don't pay me yeah and

00:46:56.960 that's as simple as it is and i i believe in in in the power of the people who are being inspired by my

00:47:04.320 films they are donating me and you know when there are enough people then you know it makes sense that

00:47:12.000 i'm keep on making films and when the people don't you know don't pay me you know i'm as a filmmaker i

00:47:22.160 will i will die you know and then i'm not needed apparently so that's the truth is you know it's 0.86

00:47:27.680 all on the people it's not you know a lot of people say oh yeah that's that's um you wanted to make that

00:47:35.200 film why did you wanted to make that film and i said i don't want to make a film it's it's the people

00:47:40.880 who want to make this film and you know i'm not i'm not a i don't feel myself as a as a talented

00:47:48.640 filmmaker but i i'm also i'm only a translator you know from a to b or something you know i'm a bridge

00:47:56.800 and i'm trying to collect the voices from the unheard and try to translate that in a story and and

00:48:04.640 try to you know connect people were with the same level of of you know worries and concerns so

00:48:13.600 so i think yeah people can choose whether they support me or not or support another but i think

00:48:19.040 this is a great system and this is a very very honest system as well because you know i'm coming

00:48:24.480 from the the official narrative as well and you get subsidized you know you're you're getting 130 000

00:48:31.360 euro to make a documentary some somewhere you're getting big pharma money yeah yeah basically yeah

00:48:37.120 because it's all and and you know you are making a film you want to make within the format you're

00:48:44.960 working for and and people don't ask for it you know you see a documentary of 130 000 euro of an old

00:48:55.440 guy in georgia in the mountains playing a piano and that's great a good story but i don't ask for it

00:49:02.880 and these stories i'm making people are really asking for it right and when i when i do something

00:49:09.440 wrong you know i'm dying and you know it right away and and that's that's a much more honest system

00:49:17.920 um we should um we should create and this is the new world and this is um this is continuing yeah

00:49:26.000 well that's how we survive here at rebel news we're completely crowdfunded but i think it is for a long

00:49:30.720 time and for a long time i think we're approaching our seventh year but this is the democratization

00:49:36.320 of journalism and in your in your instance filmmaking we're meeting a demand we know is it that the people

00:49:44.560 want we know we're filling a void because the people are supporting us in our efforts to do it

00:49:50.320 we know we're not just you know creating something because it's our personal hobby horse that we think

00:49:55.760 other people should care about these are stories that aren't being told anywhere else and the people

00:50:00.640 are asking us to tell them so you know if if the other side of the argument wanted us to go away

00:50:07.200 maybe they should start telling the other side of the story and there would never be a job for me

00:50:11.040 yeah it is and that's what i told in the beginning you know when you're screeching the system you're

00:50:16.720 creating us yeah you know and screech more then you get more people of us that's right that's how

00:50:24.960 you get more of me um brian thank you so much for uh taking the time to talk to me today i know you're

00:50:31.600 very busy and we're on very different time zones so i think we're headed into the evening for you

00:50:36.480 i appreciate it very much and uh oh i can't wait to see what you do next thank you for having me on

00:50:42.240 shayla

00:50:50.080 so this is the portion of the show where we normally take your viewer questions your comments and if you

00:50:56.720 want to send an email directly to me to be read on air the best way to do that is to send it to

00:51:02.400 sheila at rebelnews.com put gun show letters in the subject line so i can easily search and find it

00:51:09.360 today i'm taking a rumble comment on my interview with michelle sterling from friends of science last

00:51:15.840 week and if you didn't see that show we were talking about how the world economic forums backed

00:51:21.920 policies are part and parcel of the climate scare that is crippling canada's oil industry

00:51:29.920 industry and in particular alberta's oil industry because really we are we're the oil industry in

00:51:37.280 this country there are others but not quite as big as us now district 519 writes on rumble

00:51:45.840 that canada needs to nationalize its oil so canadians can prosper

00:51:54.400 we tried that it was called the national energy program and the canadian government basically tried

00:51:59.600 to take control of the alberta oil industry because this is not really canada's oil it belongs to the

00:52:06.400 citizens of alberta not everybody else you get your share in transfer payments when alberta does well

00:52:16.160 the rest of you will do well too let's keep going though the so-called royalties canadians receive

00:52:23.280 are peanuts compared to the profits these private oil companies we allow to fleece our resources

00:52:29.520 make those private oil companies create jobs they pay for research and development they are the

00:52:36.720 ones that buy the leases for oil and gas that sometimes end up known as dusters you buy the

00:52:43.760 lease it ends up non-productive and the company eats that anyway let's keep going privatization

00:52:51.680 good grief privatization costs more and we are paying for it is there anything that the government does

00:52:58.560 better more effectively cheaper than the private sector no the oil industry would definitely

00:53:06.160 be the same and i've got some facts to uh spit at you in a second here russia at approximately 90 cents

00:53:13.680 or less a leader during war times and we're paying over two dollars yikes at the same time russia is

00:53:19.440 prospering from their oil canada needs to take back our resources and nationalize our oil and stop being a 0.77

00:53:27.360 lap dog to the usa and these corporations well friends hang on for a second here this is not

00:53:33.680 canada's oil this is the alberta oil that belongs to albertans every single one of us if you want to

00:53:41.040 look at a recent uh result of what nationalization of a very prosperous oil industry can do friend we need

00:53:49.680 to look no further than venezuela we'll just read this article from forbes here venezuela's oil

00:53:56.320 production reached an all-time high in 1970 when the country produced 3.8 million barrels of oil per day

00:54:04.560 and then the regime got greedy in 1971 venezuela nationalized its natural gas industry and began

00:54:13.200 taking steps to nationalize its oil industry the oil industry was officially nationalized in 1976

00:54:21.920 between 1970 and 1985 oil production in venezuela experienced a decline of over 50 percent they

00:54:32.480 tried to backtrack on this program of nationalization in 1997 it sought to attract foreign investment as a

00:54:39.920 way to develop heavy oil and venezuela ultimately opened its oil industry up to foreign investment

00:54:48.080 but then as governments and regimes and my pro-nationalization friend here tend to do they

00:54:56.080 got greedy again because they opened it up to foreign investment but just a year later they decided nope

00:55:03.040 let's re-nationalize everything and here we go again by 1998 venezuela's oil production had recovered

00:55:10.160 thanks to private sector investment but in 1999 hugo chavez began serving as president of venezuela

00:55:20.800 during the venezuelan general strike of 2002 2003 chavez fired 19 000 employees of the national

00:55:32.320 oil company and replaced them with employees loyal to the government

00:55:38.240 in 2007 oil prices were rising i remember those good times well oh the boom times and the chavez government

00:55:45.520 sought more revenue as the investments made by the international oil companies began to pay off

00:55:51.360 venezuela demanded changes to the agreements made by the international oil companies that would give the national

00:55:58.240 oil company majority control of the project so they encourage investment from outside

00:56:04.000 outside companies and then they backdoor tried to expropriate them again after they made all the

00:56:11.040 investments exxon mobil and conoco phillips refused and as a result their assets

00:56:16.080 were expropriated stolen by the state so there are two related causes that have resulted in the steep

00:56:22.720 decline of venezuela's oil production despite the company's top rank in proven reserves the first

00:56:28.720 is brain drain expertise flights look at this the first is the removal of expertise required to

00:56:36.000 develop the country's heavy oil this started with firing the state oil companies in 2003 and continued

00:56:42.400 with pushing international expertise out of the country in 2007 every time we see a stark decline in

00:56:49.040 oil production here in canada guess where our best and brightest go they go to work overseas because

00:56:55.280 you have to follow the money you need to work and canada's best are much sought over around the

00:57:00.960 world the second it says the chavez government failed to appreciate the level of capital expenditures

00:57:06.640 required to continue developing the country's oil this was in no small part due to inexperience

00:57:14.400 among the chavez loyalists who were now running the state oil company when oil prices were high

00:57:21.520 chavez funneled billions from the oil industry into the company's social programs but he failed to invest

00:57:27.280 adequately in this capital intensive industry following those 2007 expropriations venezuela's oil

00:57:35.680 production went on a steep decline in 2018 venezuela's oil production fell to 1.5 million barrels per day

00:57:44.160 a decrease of more than 50 below 2006 levels if that doesn't scare you into thinking that nationalization

00:57:54.160 is wrong let me just ask you this would you put justin trudeau in charge of a lemonade stand

00:58:04.720 i would not put him in charge of the oil industry well everybody that's the show for tonight

00:58:10.400 hopefully you learned something thank you so much for tuning in thank you to everybody in the office

00:58:16.160 in toronto and across the country who worked to put together the show for me

00:58:21.840 and uh as i always say every single week don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to

00:58:26.560 think

00:58:40.400 so

Rebel News Podcast - May 19, 2022

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ A new documentary reflects on how the world reacted — or overreacted — to the coronavirus

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