Rebel News Podcast - October 21, 2026


SHEILA GUNN REID | Albertans voted to rein in immigration and scrap the Senate. Kris Sims of the CTF on what happens next

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00:00:00.000 The referendum is over. Everyone is talking about the failure of option two on question 10,
00:00:07.360 but that's not the whole story. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
00:00:11.020 On October 19th, Alberta went through a contentious, let's just say, referendum process.
00:00:38.740 Everyone was talking about question 10. That was the question about whether or not to begin
00:00:44.620 the process to hold a binding referendum for Alberta to secede from Confederation. Now,
00:00:51.000 option two, the leave side did not win. However, it did win in two ridings and came close in about
00:00:58.460 eight others. About one in four Albertans are done with the country. But those weren't the
00:01:06.860 only questions that were asked. Nine questions were put forward by the government. The first
00:01:13.040 five were policy questions, largely around immigration, and the next four were constitutional
00:01:20.140 questions. As it sits when I'm recording this, two questions of those nine did not pass, although
00:01:30.860 that could change. Not all the ballots are in yet, and the results won't be certified until October
00:01:36.500 29th. The two that didn't pass, one involved Alberta appointing its own judges, or at least
00:01:44.880 having a greater say in appointing its own judges. Instead, Alberta voters have asked the provincial
00:01:52.240 government to leave that issue alone and continue to have our King's Bench judges appointed for us
00:02:01.260 by somewhere and someone far away but questions regarding immigration and benefits given to
00:02:11.860 temporary residents passed overwhelmingly including in the cities as well a question
00:02:17.640 regarding the abolishment of the unelected senate also passed so joining me today to discuss those
00:02:23.840 issues is my friend chris sims the alberta director of the canadian taxpayers federation
00:02:29.920 Take a listen.
00:02:38.100 So joining me now is my good friend, Chris Sims of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
00:02:43.780 Chris, I wanted to unpack some of the first nine questions, I guess, of the referendum.
00:02:52.500 And as we're recording this, one of them might have flipped overnight.
00:02:56.600 That was about the appointment of...
00:02:59.920 judges from Alberta for Alberta, which should not be controversial at all.
00:03:05.060 But the one that you've been really advocating for passed, and that was for the abolition of
00:03:12.780 the unelected Senate. Yes, we're really happy to hear this. And again, I know, okay, I know there
00:03:20.640 were a lot of questions on there that people felt very passionately about. And Senate wasn't the one
00:03:26.820 keeping them up late at night or getting them up out of bed in the morning. I totally get that.
00:03:31.600 But we did this for strategic reasons, okay? Number one, taxpayers are spending money on
00:03:37.120 something that's pointless, dumb, and unelected. So the Senate is costing you, dear taxpayer viewer 0.99
00:03:43.340 here with Sheila's wonderful show, $140 million this year. To put that into perspective,
00:03:50.240 the Speaker of the Senate, okay, is paid more than $260,000 per year, and I bet you don't know
00:03:58.680 her name. Worse, she and her entourage blew almost a million of your dollars traveling around the 0.89
00:04:07.060 planet the last three years. I'm talking Spain, Romania, Ireland, Japan, Brazil, New Zealand,
00:04:14.720 the African country of Benin, so she could learn about this sacred forest of voodoo culture, 1.00
00:04:20.240 like absolute nonsense. Yeah, I know. She said that out loud with her face. It was written up. 1.00
00:04:26.260 And so if you want to go study voodoo somewhere in Africa, like that's your business. Do not 0.98
00:04:34.120 bill taxpayers for this nonsense. So all this is to say, the Senate has cost taxpayers more
00:04:40.380 than a billion dollars over the last decade. It is a crazy rubber stamp. And if I don't have your
00:04:46.120 attention yet just wait there's more senators back ventures two feet in a heartbeat okay are
00:04:52.680 paid $192,000 per year until they are 75 years old and a dude named Justin Trudeau people might
00:05:02.580 remember that former prime minister he appointed 100 out of 105 of those senators let me say that
00:05:13.000 again real slow. The Prime Minister of Canada is the one who decides who gets to sit in the Senate,
00:05:18.640 not you, taxpayer. The last Prime Minister we had before Carney, Trudeau, he named 100 out of 105,
00:05:27.280 and they all get to sit there until they're 75 years old. So this is a very partisan,
00:05:34.200 very expensive, very pointless rubber stamp. And I, Canada is a constitutional monarchy.
00:05:43.000 I'm a total nerd.
00:05:44.680 I think I'm the only one
00:05:46.280 at the Canadian Taxpayers Federation,
00:05:47.940 they all tease me for this,
00:05:49.520 who actually does support having a monarchy
00:05:53.160 and still having our constitutional monarchy.
00:05:56.360 I like the historic reference,
00:05:58.840 the fact you can trace it back over a thousand years.
00:06:01.320 I think the instability and continuity is important.
00:06:03.860 All that jazz.
00:06:04.960 All that said,
00:06:06.300 we don't need to be paying through the nose for the Senate.
00:06:09.220 Okay?
00:06:09.480 It does not need to be unelected
00:06:11.320 and we don't need to spend money on it.
00:06:13.000 To give you an example, the British House of Lords, okay, which is over in the UK, part of our
00:06:19.420 constitutional monarchy system, blah, blah, blah, blah. Royal chamber, they got the red carpet in
00:06:23.780 there too. Sheila, House of Lords are not paid a salary. They're not paid a salary. But here in
00:06:30.820 Canada, such chumps, okay, we're handing $190,000 to these people to be potted plants. So all of 0.98
00:06:38.820 this is to say, it's undemocratic, it's unelected, it's not accountable, it's wasting your money.
00:06:43.760 We have Preston Manning and Abby Lewis agreeing to abolish the Senate. Stars have aligned, okay?
00:06:53.620 So this is why, this is one of the reasons why the Taxpayers Federation fought hard for this.
00:06:57.440 Also, I don't know if you saw, but did you notice how Prime Minister Mark Carney was asked about
00:07:03.000 the follow-up questions that weren't just about sovereignty and he said oh um opening the
00:07:08.840 constitution takes a long time and that sounds like a lot of work well we wouldn't want them
00:07:13.820 to do any work would we exactly so strategically how you eat an elephant is one bite at a time 0.88
00:07:20.480 one of the reasons why we went after the senate is because it would require Alberta to work with
00:07:28.100 other provinces in order to amend the Constitution, my friend. That's right. So it's one step further
00:07:36.620 along that journey. And I know you wanted to get into the other questions as well. There's a lot
00:07:41.380 of good for taxpayers and Albertans and people who value smaller government that came out of that
00:07:47.220 night. Yeah, but just staying on the Senate question, the Senate... I'm so glad we won.
00:07:55.180 You know, I'm so glad you won too, because we've tried, especially on the Senate here in Alberta, for viewers outside of the province, you may not know, but Alberta elects its own senators. We put their names on the ballot. Albertans choose them. And it was convention under Stephen Harper's conservative government to respect the will of Albertans and appoint the people that we chose.
00:08:21.120 We called them senators in waiting.
00:08:22.980 We would elect them.
00:08:24.280 And when a place became open for an Alberta senator to be appointed, Stephen Harper would
00:08:31.040 take our choice and put them in the Senate.
00:08:34.080 Now we have a couple of senators in waiting. 0.98
00:08:36.680 Why?
00:08:37.580 Because Justin Trudeau and now Mark Carney ignore the will of Albertans and appoint their
00:08:45.360 own crazy people, like radical gender activist Christopher Wells, who this is me saying it based
00:08:51.260 on posts he made where he co-opted a cartoon about Coptic Christian martyrs and put the LGBTQ 0.97
00:09:02.220 in the place of the martyrs. And the Christians were the bad guys in that. And then we've got 0.83
00:09:07.980 Senator Paula Simons. Nobody chose her. In fact, she railed against the unelected Senate until 0.98
00:09:15.180 somebody showed up with a paycheck for her and she uh gladly accepted so 192 000 per year plus
00:09:24.700 expenses as so so albertans have tried to work within the confines of the constitution to change
00:09:33.340 at least how we're represented in the senate and we've been ignored so yeah let's go nuclear
00:09:39.460 And the courts, the courts slapped down Prime Minister Stephen Harper when he was trying to reform the Senate and make it elected. And we interviewed a Reform Party founder, Preston Manning, and he famously advocated for Senate reform. He wanted a triple E Senate, equal, elected and effective.
00:10:00.460 okay um i did the math i was looking at the math and it's something crazy so i'm out here in
00:10:06.520 atlantic canada right now because we're i'm fixing up a property i'm constantly chatting with people
00:10:11.600 back home um in the beloved province of alberta and i was looking around at the numbers last i
00:10:18.080 could see on the website i think atlantic canada all combined has a place for like 30 senators
00:10:25.720 Yeah. Alberta's got six. Yeah. Like it is so lopsided. Now, I know there's a lot of good, good, hardworking people in Atlantic Canada. But if you look around on what's going on here, where they're constantly trying to strangle their own natural resources, they've got crazy high taxes here in Nova Scotia.
00:10:48.680 You walk outside and you're hit with a 14% sales tax combined on everything.
00:10:54.520 It is outrageous.
00:10:55.820 And their basic personal exemption is one of the lowest in Canada,
00:10:59.960 meaning you only have to start earning, I think it's around $13,000 or $14,000 per year here
00:11:06.640 before you're nailed with provincial income taxes.
00:11:10.160 It's disgusting.
00:11:10.980 Alberta, for example, right now has the highest personal exemption,
00:11:14.900 Meaning you can make, I think it's $24,000, something around there before you start even paying income tax in Alberta. So the difference in how it, and oh, in Alberta, you have recall legislation at the provincial city hall and school board level, meaning it respects its people more. It taxes them much less. It has more opportunities for regular jobs, including natural resource jobs.
00:11:39.960 And you can fire the government at any moment in Alberta.
00:11:44.480 It's awesome.
00:11:46.000 And yet, and yet, at the federal level, they get six appointment slots for the Senate. 0.66
00:11:52.780 And then Blanty Canada gets 30. 0.89
00:11:55.340 Like, so many reasons to abolish the unelected Senate.
00:11:59.740 And so I just wanted to thank Alberta Premier Daniel Smith, I will point this out, for adding some of these questions.
00:12:07.340 Because I think we got some solid answers.
00:12:09.960 that a lot of people can build off like we're building off the senate thing we're really happy
00:12:15.600 to see some of the yeses when it comes to things like uh having uh more local smaller governments
00:12:21.380 i know that king's bench things looks a little flippy right now yeah spoiler alert smith can
00:12:27.460 still work on that if she wants right right like there's nothing telling her she can't and i know
00:12:32.780 that there's folks for example in criminal justice reform circles that are outside of the taxpayers
00:12:37.240 Federation, they'll be pretty happy to see stuff like this. And immigration reform advocates are
00:12:43.560 going to be super happy with some of these results, Sheila. Yeah. And we'll talk about that in a
00:12:48.460 second. But if viewers at home want to send me an email because I seem slightly distracted while
00:12:52.920 Chris was talking, I am listening. But I was wondering, I was double checking my numbers
00:12:58.840 because you said Alberta has six senators. Yes, we have nearly 5 million people in this beautiful
00:13:04.780 province, just six senators. How many senators does PEI have? I think 12 or something. Altogether,
00:13:13.900 it's 30. A PEI has four senators for a population of 183,000 people. So that's like Grand Prairie
00:13:25.620 and Red Deer put together. Yes. How's that fair representation? It's not. It's not. And it's one
00:13:34.260 of the many reasons why Preston Manning, bless him, thought about this all the time. And we
00:13:40.380 interviewed him. And to have him as the Reform Party founder say, you know what, it is time to
00:13:46.580 send a strong message to Ottawa and vote to get rid of this ridiculous unelected Senate. It was 0.78
00:13:52.520 huge. And I think that actually helped propel the vote and helped people start voting in favor of
00:13:57.840 yes getting rid of it and you'll like this story because it's always so fun um i'm trying to get
00:14:04.720 abby lewis to talk to me good luck my show i'm sure there's something that we can agree on i
00:14:12.720 don't know what that is maybe you know i'm a little spooked by the price taggy things too
00:14:17.240 let's talk abby um so i'll try um and in all honesty in the spirit of dialogue i think it's
00:14:24.640 important to talk to people um the late jack layton used to be one of our most frequent guests
00:14:30.220 on sun news network right realsies he did he came into the studio like all the time talk to us all
00:14:37.380 the time um and so i think it's really important to get them talking about this and abby lewis
00:14:43.200 um in keeping with uh the former jack layton's perspective uh um mr milcare's uh perspective
00:14:51.140 all the way back okay to the origin story of tommy douglas with the ccf and the regina manifesto back
00:14:59.100 in the 1930s they always called for the abolition of the senate always and so i want to call out
00:15:06.200 on this because the alberta ndp leader said squat about the unelected senate actually he campaigned
00:15:16.260 against the first nine questions. No to the nine. No to the nine. I know. And I noticed that, too.
00:15:21.880 There's one prominent lefty there in Alberta as well. I wrote an article about this whole no to
00:15:28.780 the nine push, and that was basically them saying, keep the unelected Senate. We love it. It's our
00:15:33.760 best friend. It's the weirdest take for a lefty to have because they've been calling it this, you
00:15:40.300 know full of aristocrats hold over from colonialism blah blah blah blah blah like anachronistic all
00:15:46.800 this other stuff for years i did not understand why the alberta ndp were not coming out in force
00:15:52.820 saying we should definitely throw off the shackles of the unelected senate but they were campaigning
00:15:58.860 in favor of it it was the weirdest thing so and i'm super happy that albertans like cut through
00:16:04.060 that spin and the propaganda and they came out and the majority of them as of right now as of
00:16:08.980 tape time. The majority of them, around 53 percent, said, yeah, it's it's time to scrap that thing.
00:16:15.540 And now just from a taxpayer's perspective, the first five questions regard immigration.
00:16:23.740 And the premier has been very clear for temporary residents to this country, be it workers, students,
00:16:29.620 whatever, for every $1 that they generate, they cost the taxpayer $10. And to maintain our social 0.99
00:16:41.180 services, healthcare, schooling, etc., we need to have immigration at sustainable levels. And 0.84
00:16:51.340 while we can't necessarily stop the influx of people coming to this country, 0.99
00:16:57.280 We can disincentivize people from making this their final destination by requiring, by making a law that mandates only Canadian citizens, permanent residents and individuals with an Alberta approved, I like that, Alberta approved immigration status will be eligible for provincially funded programs such as healthcare, education and other social services. 0.73
00:17:21.120 now if you listen to the left they say this is racist but there's nothing about race in here
00:17:25.660 at all and other western democracies do this all the time this puts us in line with places like
00:17:33.100 a horrible far right places like australia
00:17:35.940 like why this is just common sense uh why should taxpayers who've been living and working in
00:17:45.140 Alberta for you know a few years depending on what you say contributing to the tax pool okay
00:17:50.740 owning property you know generating wealth paying their income taxes all that jazz
00:17:55.460 why should they be bankrolling people who just arrived yesterday and or might not even be here
00:18:05.440 legally right like that's okay with you and I growing up in the same generation Sheila that
00:18:11.700 would have been unthinkable. Right. Like that would have been unthinkable for them to be able
00:18:15.880 to get social services and stuff if they're here illegally. Right. That makes no sense. And so just 1.00
00:18:21.720 from a nickel and dime, like actual dollar to dollar perspective. Sure. Sure. Of course, that
00:18:27.600 was a smart question to ask. And I'm not surprised, actually, that it got pretty overwhelming support
00:18:32.700 last I checked with those numbers. I will also point out it's not just schools and hospitals,
00:18:37.560 okay which are paid for by taxpayers in some cases not all obviously in some cases there are
00:18:46.180 folks who are in canada who aren't canadian citizens who are here illegally and who are
00:18:53.500 committing crimes and they're in our criminal justice system and they're not getting kicked out 0.74
00:19:00.920 right they're not even getting jail time they're just put back out on the street they're part of
00:19:07.500 that blew my mind. The whole revolving door justice thing, they're getting put back out
00:19:12.520 on the street. And just even if you want to take away potential crime and the hardship that causes
00:19:17.680 people who are victims of it, just from an arithmetic and money perspective, that's costing
00:19:23.240 taxpayers a ton of money. So yeah, I'm glad to see that people championed this. And I'm glad to see
00:19:28.620 from what I can tell from the current numbers, it looks like most of that stuff passed.
00:19:32.440 It looks like the first five passed. You know, we have seen order paper questions where the government had to admit that temporary residents and people here illegally are qualifying for CCB.
00:19:46.220 So that's the Canadian Child Benefit for children that don't live here with them.
00:19:52.660 And I have to stress, folks. Half of what you make goes to government.
00:19:59.520 So if you are a regular working person, okay, and you're pulling in your salary every two weeks, almost half of what you earn with your work is going to the state, various levels of the state of government.
00:20:15.800 Put another way, okay?
00:20:18.220 Imagine that you're at the grocery store, you know, shutter, right, of trying to pay for stuff and how much everything is costing and the inflation and just the fight to afford basic things, okay?
00:20:28.140 Keep that in mind right now. Picture what lands in your bank account if you're paid a salary every
00:20:34.120 two weeks. Got that amount in your head? Almost double it. Almost double it. What could you do
00:20:43.220 with that money if it were almost doubled when it lands in your bank account? Could you afford
00:20:49.080 more nutritious food? Could you pay to get your car fixed? Could you try to pay down your line
00:20:53.400 of credit? Could you maybe try to save up for a down payment on a house? All that stuff. Now,
00:20:59.660 my good friend taxpayer, realize what Sheila just said, that your tax dollars that are taken from
00:21:07.500 you by force from the state are going to people who shouldn't be in Canada for children. Did you
00:21:14.380 say that aren't even physically in Canada? They're their dependents. Guys, guys, you want to know
00:21:21.720 where the money's hemorrhaging from it's stuff like this so that's why it wasn't our fight our
00:21:27.560 fight was the senate question but i'm still as a taxpayer who wants smaller more accountable more
00:21:33.280 affordable government i'm thrilled to see some of these answers there these are some solid bases to
00:21:38.720 build on here in alberta yeah it and what surprised me but i shouldn't be surprised
00:21:46.180 is that this was popular even in the cities so this and the reason i shouldn't be surprised is
00:21:56.700 because almost all the polling data shows canadians when you say to them should we lower immigration
00:22:02.720 levels or at least until very recently i think that the trend is changing because people are
00:22:08.240 saying yeah definitely lower i don't care what they're at lower them but but until very recently
00:22:13.920 Canadians said, no, immigration's fine. You know, we're a welcoming country and we're super nice and we're definitely not American. So we're not like those ice baddies. And so they were pro-immigration until you told them the immigration numbers. Once you told them the immigration targets, they were like, oh, that's too much.
00:22:34.780 And it was across every voting demographic and voting proclivity.
00:22:42.200 So even if you told NDPers the immigration numbers, they said, oh, that's a little much.
00:22:48.780 Yeah. And so I think now you don't even have to tell them the numbers.
00:22:52.540 They can see it manifesting around them that something isn't quite right.
00:22:56.460 They're seeing their schools are overcrowded. Their emergency rooms are overcrowded.
00:22:59.780 The streets are overcrowded. You can't afford a house.
00:23:01.920 and they're putting two and two together even in the cities and that gives me hope
00:23:06.260 yeah and it's one of those things where and then you add the and you're paying for it right like
00:23:12.720 and you're paying for it so the taxpayer tax dollars are paying for a lot of that which is
00:23:19.620 why it was smart to put those questions on do you want user fees do you want the requirement to be
00:23:24.260 there i think is for 12 months at least before you start qualifying like these are all very
00:23:28.340 common sense things that should that should be able to save taxpayers money because like I pointed
00:23:35.580 out we can't afford to pay more we have got to start paying less in taxes like yesterday right
00:23:42.720 yesterday now I do like the idea that the premier put these questions to the people so that she could
00:23:48.940 enact the people's will I like that but the first five questions are just policy questions she could
00:23:54.040 just do them anyway yes yes i understand so uh i've known premier daniel smith for around 20
00:24:02.100 years because we worked in radio kind of in the same sphere so we'd wind up seeing each other
00:24:06.580 conferences and stuff and just from my own knowledge of her she loves referendums she
00:24:12.080 loves being able to actually hear from people directly yeah uh and recall legislation and all
00:24:16.840 that stuff she really likes that grassroots direct democracy thing um so i think that's
00:24:21.640 one of the reasons why she added a lot of those questions of she wanted to kind of get a feel for
00:24:27.120 it. But you're right. A lot of the stuff they can just do. They can just do. And again, some of the
00:24:33.040 constitutional questions, that's a very good test pilot for Prime Minister Mark Carney and see how
00:24:41.640 he's reacting to this. So something like the Senate, for example, depending on what happens
00:24:46.340 with the snap provincial election in British Columbia,
00:24:49.740 you should be able to get a majority of premiers on board of that.
00:24:54.300 Yeah.
00:24:54.540 On abolishing the Senate. 0.98
00:24:55.660 You'll definitely have Quebec on board.
00:24:57.820 Right.
00:24:59.160 So we should be able to get a majority of premiers on board 0.63
00:25:03.720 in order to make the constitutional changes for that to happen.
00:25:08.920 And again, it's a really good, it's like a pace car in a race, right?
00:25:14.780 see how Carney reacts to that challenge and then you can start getting into some bit more
00:25:19.760 nitty-gritty stuff that's a bit more complicated than the senate yep uh Chris I know you're busy
00:25:25.440 you are on a mission in Atlantic Canada yes and today is already piling up on me I could talk to
00:25:32.700 you all day though um and uh I'm happy that I get paid to do it every once in a while um but tell me
00:25:40.180 how people can get involved in the taxpayers army hey and i know i just want to say personally um
00:25:47.320 thank you for your work sheila oh thanks thank you to ezra thank you to everybody at rebel i
00:25:53.920 saw the work you guys were doing especially the last few months and to folks who feel really
00:25:59.620 strongly about a lot of these questions including sovereignty okay and i heard i mean it when i say
00:26:06.480 I heard very passionate, earnest, heartfelt opinions coming at me from both sides.
00:26:14.360 I did.
00:26:15.960 I know some of the answers weren't what you wanted to hear.
00:26:20.260 But I must say, I've got family that's originally from Alberta.
00:26:24.860 So I consider myself Albertan already up in Stetler and Sundry and all them.
00:26:28.680 Some of the folks who came over in a covered wagon.
00:26:32.380 So I feel it too.
00:26:33.760 But I need to tell you, Alberta is really special. Like it really is. I have lived and worked professionally in most provinces of Canada. There's nowhere like Alberta. The fact that you guys have this direct democracy, that you have referendums, that you have recall legislation, that you have a Taxpayer Protection Act where they have to have a vote to increase a tax on you.
00:26:58.300 That's wild that you have recall at the school board level, guys, city hall level, that I can walk into any random hotel on a Wednesday night in Red Deer, okay, or Lloyd or Lethbridge or wherever, and trip over some grassroots group that wants to fix something about Alberta.
00:27:20.000 That is preciously special.
00:27:23.460 It's nowhere else in Canada.
00:27:25.180 So if you're upset by some of the answers, I understand. But you've got to know for hope for the future and the health of the province. Alberta is so well equipped. Yeah, change. It is. I'm making sure that we keep more of our money, that we have more of our freedom and that we have smaller, more accountable government. I just have to tell you from experience, Alberta is set. Like it's really well set.
00:27:50.180 And so if anybody does want to join with the Taxpayers Federation on our various fights, okay, we're fighting industrial carbon taxes, we're fighting to defund the CBC, we're fighting the censorship laws, all this stuff, just go to taxpayer.com for free, click on the petitions tab, sign one of the petitions that speaks to your heart, and bingo, bango, you're part of the tax fighter army, and you'll start getting a whole bunch of emails from people like me that it's time to team up and gang up on Carney and do a phone bank or do an email or something like that.
00:28:20.020 It's how we win stuff. Hey, we helped win the no more pipelines ruling. We were an intervener in
00:28:25.360 that case just the other day in the Alberta Court of Appeal. OK, so that's part of the tax fighter
00:28:30.480 army. You can totally sign up for free. You don't need to donate. Just sign one of the petitions
00:28:34.700 and you're part of the team. Yeah, I know there are a lot of people out there who feel like now
00:28:38.680 that the referendum is over, that they feel like they need to get involved in something and do
00:28:44.760 something and i think the taxpayers federation is a great way to get involved make change
00:28:51.480 and enjoy some of that fellowship that a lot of people felt during the referendum campaign
00:28:55.960 big time and we're happy warriors it's super yeah we have trivia nights and people will show
00:29:01.080 off in porky costumes it's it's really fun yes chris thanks so much for jumping on the show today
00:29:07.740 i know you're very busy um doing manual labor in atlantic canada um but it's good for the soul
00:29:14.220 So thanks for coming on.
00:29:16.680 We'll talk to you very soon.
00:29:18.140 You take care.
00:29:18.800 Bye-bye.
00:29:26.240 As always here in the show,
00:29:27.460 the last portion of the show goes to you at home.
00:29:30.280 I want to know what you think about the work
00:29:31.700 that we do here at Rebel News.
00:29:32.980 That's why I give you my email address.
00:29:34.700 It's Sheila at rebelnews.com. 0.99
00:29:36.800 Put gun show letters in the subject line
00:29:38.680 so I know why you're emailing me.
00:29:40.520 And I should tell you,
00:29:41.140 So I got some good feedback on my show last week with our two newest interns, Drew and
00:29:49.020 Anastasia, on the work they are doing to expose campus radicalism.
00:29:55.060 I think that what's happening on university campuses is radicalizing kids in two ways.
00:30:03.940 It's radicalizing kids into far left pro terror extremism.
00:30:08.780 But on the other side, it's radicalizing kids like Drew and Anastasia to be activists for the free and liberal exchange of ideas, which is how it's supposed to be on university campuses, however, decreasingly so.
00:30:22.140 But today's comments come from the YouTube comment section on my video announcing that we had a small but important win in our battle with Elections Alberta and the Elections Commissioner to tell us if they are investigating Thomas Lukasik's multi-million dollar Forever Canadian campaign.
00:30:46.940 Now, the referendum is over, and I think we'll learn more about exactly how big the campaign finance violations were coming from Forever Canadian, but we will learn too late.
00:31:07.700 However, we were able to force Elections Alberta through our StopTheCheaters.com campaign. You can donate to offset my legal fees, which are enormous. At StopTheCheaters.com, we had over 200 pages of complaint that we served Elections Alberta with.
00:31:29.640 it was evidence of campaign finance violations for Forever Canadian. We compiled that with the
00:31:40.520 help of Williamson Law back in July. We went to court, I think it was in August. We tried to get
00:31:51.300 it in front of the Associate Chief Justice, and then the Associate Chief Justice said he just
00:31:57.900 couldn't hear our case before the referendum but elections alberta did put lukazik's forever
00:32:08.680 canadian campaign under a compliance agreement now you only go under a compliance agreement
00:32:14.580 if you haven't been complying with the rules so we knew that that was a passive admission
00:32:21.640 that Forever Canadian had been found to have been breaking the rules,
00:32:28.760 but we needed to see it in writing.
00:32:31.140 And wouldn't you know it, just as advanced voting started,
00:32:36.600 Elections Alberta let us know that they were investigating Forever Canadian
00:32:43.580 for failing to disclose their campaign finances.
00:32:49.600 they were running, as I said, a multi-million dollar campaign across the province, tour bus,
00:32:57.260 tens of thousands of lawn signs, taking donations from any old place, even from outside of the
00:33:05.080 province. And they had two, count them two, campaign offices and communications people,
00:33:15.540 professional communications people and that stuff doesn't happen for free so they are under
00:33:24.000 a compliance agreement their events are being investigated thanks to your donations to our
00:33:29.580 legal fight at stop the cheaters.com but i wanted to know what you thought about
00:33:33.800 ringing that small but i think important victory out of elections alberta forcing them to actually 0.58
00:33:41.200 do their darn jobs in making sure elections are fair in the video. So I wanted to know 0.83
00:33:49.880 what you thought. So let's take a look. Sal Q7Q says, imagine a former politician holding an
00:33:57.420 illegal slash corrupt campaign. Imagine that in Canada and a campaign for Canada. Yeah. It should
00:34:03.320 be noted that Thomas Lukasik is a former deputy premier for Alison Redford. She was our former
00:34:12.660 progressive conservative premier of the Sky Palace fame. She built a massive luxury apartment for 0.91
00:34:23.440 herself and her daughter at the taxpayer's expense at the top of the federal building.
00:34:27.920 is it the federal building I think it's a federal building and um recent newcomers to politics will
00:34:34.200 know that that is the same place that Jason Kenney was photographed flouting the pandemic rules he
00:34:40.980 imposed on everybody else by having a little whiskey party with some of his senior cabinet
00:34:44.960 the place is cursed
00:34:47.100 custis longarm5738 says and the state mainstream media seemed to forgot to report on this when
00:34:58.640 carney met with forever canadian this week yeah they didn't bring it up they didn't bring it up
00:35:03.340 that their favorite federalist smith basher was the only third-party advertiser under a compliance
00:35:11.240 agreement I won't stop till that guy gets massive fines if it was a group for separation they would
00:35:19.640 have been investigated that day and all over the news for a week yeah yeah we have been compliant
00:35:26.640 with the rules filing our expenses and income weekly and Thomas Lukasik has been well not
00:35:34.780 Lukasik but at least his operation they've been in the same parking lot as me doing the exact same
00:35:40.940 work as me it was in lethbridge alberta it was on a sign tour and forever canadian was across the
00:35:48.740 parking lot handing out signs taking donations with their volunteers maybe their paid volunteers
00:35:58.380 and only one of us filed expenses for that day guess who that was
00:36:04.100 william mckeever 4790 says so forever canadian is not likely to face any consequences i don't know
00:36:12.980 let's see the compliance agreement says they have to comply um and it is like a plea deal
00:36:18.940 right like as i've said before it's like running over and killing somebody with your car and then
00:36:23.920 you plead down from vehicular homicide to a parking ticket is what he did but he's still
00:36:30.860 being investigated for other things. So we'll see. And he is technically a third party advertiser.
00:36:36.480 He registered his group as a third party advertiser. He promoted one side in the campaign.
00:36:41.560 That's why he had to register as a third party advertiser. So why didn't he comply with the rest
00:36:46.040 of the rules? And why did Elections Alberta let this go on for so long until it was too late for
00:36:53.240 any of us to do anything? Basically, they got away with cheating this whole time and nothing is going
00:36:57.760 to be done about it i no longer have faith in alberta elections or the current government not
00:37:01.880 that i had much to begin with yeah elections alberta mishandled this referendum from the very
00:37:07.500 beginning i mean last no two sundays ago the sunday of the long weekend before the vote
00:37:18.260 before advanced voting started we were told us third-party advertisers were told that our
00:37:25.980 scrutiniers would not be allowed to watch the vote. Only parties and their scrutiniers would
00:37:32.960 be allowed to watch the vote. Well, this is not a party election. This is a referendum where third
00:37:38.740 parties are the ones who are making the case. And they did it in such a way that nobody had any time
00:37:44.720 to try to get it before the courts. And then there's the whole Lukasik thing. And so it's a
00:37:51.520 over there and you know it's days later now and we still don't have the results so i don't know
00:38:00.740 reeks of ineptitude anyway michelle bud10x says thank you so much for your hard work well i i
00:38:10.580 honestly i think it was it was as i've said many many times a sprint of a marathon it just felt
00:38:18.460 like we were running for months um you guys know i have a big job here at rebel news i'm in charge
00:38:24.580 of a lot of things and i have a huge huge workload here and i do a lot of other special projects and
00:38:32.540 missions and i oversee the work of the other journalists and then in my spare time i was
00:38:37.940 working on the third party advertiser i wrote a book i toured a book um but all that is to say
00:38:44.160 The work is not yet done. I don't I don't think this issue is going away. In fact, one in four, 25 percent, that's a sustainable movement. And I think 75 percent is the high water benchmark for the Federalist, because if there aren't any deliverables on those other issues that the Premier put forward.
00:39:06.180 my assessment of the referendum results it is that people were willing because she is doing
00:39:18.800 a good job i think so people were willing to give premier smith another shot to try it her way
00:39:25.480 but if that fails who boy
00:39:29.060 carlos quintana 3434 says thank you sheila well you're welcome g mckay 957 says i'm so sorry
00:39:39.540 pardon me i'm so tired of government corruption i just want out well a lot of people feel that way
00:39:45.060 um about one in four of us myself included uh dave gava says carny doesn't want you alberta
00:39:52.680 he just wants your money. No lie there. Well, everybody, that's the show for today. Thank you
00:39:59.040 so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next
00:40:02.640 week. And as always, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.
00:40:22.680 Thank you.